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Author: Raine    Date: 05/24/2010 13:27:03

I didn't want to talk about her, but I have to. Sarah. She gives me a twitch in my eye. She appeared yesterday on Fox & Friends and said the following:
PALIN: Yeah, absolutely. So you know, one thing that we can learn in this lesson that I have learned and Rand Paul is learning now is don’t assume that you can engage in a hypothetical discussion about constitutional impacts with a reporter or a media personality who has an agenda, who may be prejudiced before they even get into the interview in regards to what your answer may be — and then the opportunity that they seize to get you.

You know, they’re looking for that gotcha moment. And that’s what it evidently appears to be that they did with Rand Paul, but I’m thankful that he was able to clarify his answer about his support for the Civil Rights Act.
Think Progress has the video.

Hello Pot, meet Kettle. I am going to go one step further here, and commend Rand Paul for initially being honest despite my personal opposition to what he believes in. What has since happened is he, well -- he Flip-Flopped. Think Progress also points out that Rand Paul willingly went on the Rachel Maddow show, and by now we all know that she gave him 15 minutes to clarify his comments. Those Comments were ones that he made a few times before this national interview. Somehow this is being spun into 'Gotcha Journalism'? When someone like John Cornyn become sthe voice of reason in a debate like the one being raised at Fox, I think we are entering an alternate reality that not even the TV show 'Lost' can rival. Cornyn Appeared on Meet the Press yesterday (after Rand Paul backed out)
GREGORY: Don’t you think this is fair game? Questions about his views about the limit and scope of government?

CORNYN: Well, I do think that’s a fair topic, and I’m sure you’ll be hearing extensively from him and all the other candidates over the next six months.
He's right. People deserve to know where a candidate stands on any issue. For Palin and others to suggest that candidates shouldn't answer questions unless the media is fully vetted by the candidate is dangerous. It's antithetical to our free press and what the fourth estate is supposed to be about.

And -- for the record, the so called hypothetical discussion Ms. Palin said Mr. Paul was having? Of course it was hypothetical -- this is how you find out about candidates and their views. It's a basic tenant of campaigning and politics.

In the mean time, RNC Chairperson Michale Steele appeared on This week yesterday morning and refused to condemn Rand Paul's views regarding the Civil Rights act of 1964
TAPPER: But do you condemn that view?

STEELE: I can’t condemn a person’s view. That’s like, you know, you believe something and I’m going to say, well, you know, I’m going to condemn your view of it. It’s the people of Kentucky will judge whether or not that’s a view that they would like to send–
Steele went onto say he was not comfortable with Paul's view, but refused to make it clear that it was not the view of the Republican Party.

So, if we are to get this correct, the media should basically be spoon-fed questions that the candidate wants to answer and not be asked the hard questions. They should also never be held accountable for the things they say. They can say anything they want because it's all hypothetical.

This appears to only apply if said candidate is a Republican -- or a Libertarian in Republican clothes. Or a former half-term Governor who doesn't give interviews.

For those that think Rand Paul may have been taken out of context, or misspoke, check this out. It starts at about 4:50 in:


Like Father, Like Son.

Gotcha!

and
Raine


 

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Comment by wickedpam on 05/24/2010 12:55:24
Morning

Comment by TriSec on 05/24/2010 13:14:20
Morning, Comrades!



News flash for Rand Paul:





The United States' exclusive economic zone is the largest in the world, covering 11,351,000 km. Areas of its EEZ are located not only along the eastern and western seaboards and Gulf of Mexico-bordering region of the continental United States, but are also located in the Caribbean Sea, Pacific Ocean and Arctic Ocean.





See also: Magnuson-Stevens Fisheries Conservation and Management Act of 1976

Comment by Raine on 05/24/2010 13:29:31
Bloggy is up...

Comment by Raine on 05/24/2010 13:41:39
I was under the impression that Obama did get scientists together -- One guy got kicked off the panel for his anti gay views..

Comment by Raine on 05/24/2010 13:44:48
Quote by Raine:

I was under the impression that Obama did get scientists together -- One guy got kicked off the panel for his anti gay views..


Obama Did appoint a panel of scientists to figure out this damn disaster

Comment by wickedpam on 05/24/2010 13:50:11
Matron Momma Morton from Chicago

Comment by Raine on 05/24/2010 14:34:02
I have to say this -- IRT this idea that had this disaster been from a Repub the left would be screaming outrage:



I don't know if i agree -- this is something that is so bad, that it seems like a false frame of the issue. Here, I read this the other day, and I am going to repost it here in it's entirety:



There is an appalling lack of knowledge about the BP disaster in evidence here.



I posted this in another thread, but several people have asked that I make it an OP. Let me start by saying something:



This operation should never have been allowed to begin, since there is no effective means for handling a blowout, as we have seen.



That said, the incident occurred, and the proof of my previous statement is in evidence.



1. As some have already said, the relief wells are probably going to be the only thing that ends this. Kevin Costner's device may help clean up the oil that has been spilled and will continue to be spilled, but, based on the dimensions of it, it would take hundreds, if not thousands of the devices to do the job of cleaning up multiple millions of gallons of contaminated seawater.



2. The US goverment has no technology capable of dealing with this situation. The only such technology, such as it is, is in the hands of the oil drilling companies. We do have submersibles in the Navy and at NOAA that can reach those depths, but so do the oil drilling companies, and those submersibles are already in place and are designed for the manipulations needed in this situation. The Navy's and NOAA's submersibles are not designed to deal with this type of work. Further, the US military has no expertise in offshore oil drilling technology, and can do nothing to fix the problem.



2. President Obama has spoken about this situation every day, despite erroneous claims to the contrary. I've heard and seen him do so. Given the inability of the Federal goverment to actually do anything to ameliorate the problem, there is little else he can do. What he is doing out of the public view is another matter, and is not public.



3. We cannot "nationalize" BP. There is no mechanism available to do so. That is a ridiculous suggestion, since it cannot be done.



4. We cannot penalize BP without due process. In the meantime, they have the responsibility for stopping the leak, cleaning up the mess, and paying for all they caused. Legal action in this regard will go on for years, if not decades.



5. We are not going to "nuke" the site. That would probably cause even more widespread leaking, and such actions have never been tested at these depths. To do so would be incredibly foolish.



6. This blowout is unprecedented, due to its depth and the depth of the actual well.



7. Hand-waving and blame-placing will do nothing to solve the problem. It will only serve to create distractions from the actual job at hand.



8. This blowout will not be fixed today, tomorrow, or next month, in all probability. It is going to take months to be put under control, and there's not a damn thing we can do about that. We can hope that the top kill operation will have some success, but it's a long shot. Be prepared to be disappointed with the results.



9. No amount of pontificating from academics who have no deep-sea oil operating experience will have any effect on this disaster. In fact, nobody but those working in this field directly can end the leakage. The best experts in this field work directly in this area and have the grease under their fingernails to prove it. Anyone can say anything he or she wishes but, without direct knowledge of this specific field, they're just blabbering.



Finally, again: This well should never have been allowed in the first place. It was, and the process was well underway when President Obama took office. We can all agree that it is a bad idea to do deep-water drilling when the technology for fixing things when it goes wrong doesn't exist. We're paying for that, and for our inattention for the past 20 or so years. Drill, Baby, Drill is a bad idea if we're going to drill without the proper precautions or knowledge. Perhaps we'll do better in the future. Perhaps not.



But, this is not President Obama's disaster. It is BP's disaster. President Obama cannot reverse what happened. Despite his powers, he can't pull a Superman deal and fly around the Earth and turn back time. If you think you are frustrated, imagine how much more frustrated he is. He can actually do nothing to hurry the fix up. The only people capable of doing so are the very people who caused the accident through their own negligence, and there's not a damn thing we can do about that, since they're the only ones with the equipment and skills required to fix it.



So, please, BACK THE FUCK OFF OBAMA! Save your scorn for those responsible for this. Blame those who are culpable. Don't write untruths about the situation. Study it and learn what is being done and what is possible. Take advice only from those who understand deep sea operations, not from academics with manicures. The guys with grease under their fingernails are the ones who are going to fix this, even though they're the same ones who caused it. There is no other option.




I don't know about backing off Obama, but I do believe that he is doing everything he can-- All the rest is second guessing and looking back in Hindsite.



THIS is the Crisis- STOPPING this thing-- Agree or disagree, if we start bashing now, politically - you can pretty much assure that we will lose the POTUS to the GOP.



Imagine that. This woulda could stuff isn't helping anything politically or otherwise.





Comment by Raine on 05/24/2010 14:40:06
We need to pray that Hurricane Season is mild this year.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/24/2010 14:44:01
I too do not think there is much more the any President could do in this circumstance - it is the fault of the company(s) that cause this mess, why other companies are not coming into aid I have no idea - hell Exxon's stock would go up in my eyes if they said hey we did this to clean up or this is what we tried or what ever when they attempted to clean up Prince WIlliam sound. Yes I know its still a mess there and will be for years to come but still they had to have run across some new clean up idea.



Right now I'm not buy BP gas, which is much like I did to Exxon for quite a few years after that spill. We can't get off gas altogether overnight but we can atleast attempt to penelize a company that did this - its not perfect but its an idea.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/24/2010 14:45:06
Quote by Raine:

We need to pray that Hurricane Season is mild this year.






I can't remember what it was last year - but with the snow storms and extreme weather so far this year I'm not holding my breath

Comment by Raine on 05/24/2010 14:49:07
I hate this false analogy that Momma sounds like a Bush Apologist.





That is what it is -- a FALSE ANALOGY. Bush could have done something to help prevent 9/11 -- there are facts about that.

He had time to do something about KAtrina.





People are angry that Obama didn't trun around Bush/GOP deregulation policies and laws fast enough and somehow stating that makes one sound like a Bush apologist?



Take a look at this picture:

http://archive.stateline.org/flash-data/2008_Oct_21-OffShoreDrilling/GulfOfMexico.jpg




AND This:



This was a disaster a LOOOONG time in the making. People expect the POTUS to not only stop the leak but undo something DECADES in the making. No -- I'm not buying the false frame. I'm not excusing offshore drilling, I'm not, but this is too much.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/24/2010 14:56:50
who was it that gave the go ahead for this particular drill spot to begin with?

Comment by Raine on 05/24/2010 15:06:18
I Chris , but I don't understand how this is a huge PR problem for Obama when it was the MEDIA who didn't report this news.









Comment by Raine on 05/24/2010 15:08:35
Quote by wickedpam:

who was it that gave the go ahead for this particular drill spot to begin with?


The MMS -- before 2009.



It wasn't just THIS spot tho, this is endemic tho, in the gulf. If you click that other link, you will see that it's a huge clusterf*ck.

Comment by Raine on 05/24/2010 15:10:29
Quote by Raine:

I Chris , but I don't understand how this is a huge PR problem for Obama when it was the MEDIA who didn't report this news.




And I will go further to say that in the left wing blogosphere -- the Homophobic scientist (who was kicked off -- for it) got more press than the panel itself. We do ourselves no service by making that more of a story than the panel itself -







Comment by Raine on 05/24/2010 15:18:16
Color me shocked.
The New York Times interviewed Sarah Palin's ® father, Chuck Heath, who said he "was careful about nudging his daughter toward the things that interest him."



Said Heath: "I don't want to push the wrong button with Sarah. Besides, she doesn't make the decisions. Let me retract that. I'm sure she thinks them over and she has a lot of say as to yes and no."




Comment by livingonli on 05/24/2010 15:53:42
Good morning everyone.



It was late night at the salt mine so I crashed this morning and once I did wake up, kittie wanted attention.



People like Paul and Palin really want their asses kissed and treated with kid gloves, hey, it's just like Chimpy.

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/24/2010 16:08:03
Ha! I love that Ron Paul interview. A perfect example of what MC Steele pointed out (I'm agreeing with Michael Steele?): "Philosophy doesn't match reality". He WANTS there to be term limits, but he won't VOLUNTEER to step down.



:lol:

Comment by TriSec on 05/24/2010 16:18:26
[av-dork]



Aviation birthdays today:



Charlie Taylor (worked with the Wright Brothers....he might be the one key element in the whole flight thing, since he developed the lightweight engine that made it possible.)



The Helicopter. (First flight 1940...with Igor Sikorski at the controls.)



[/av-dork]



Comment by Raine on 05/24/2010 16:30:45
Quote by velveeta jones:

Ha! I love that Ron Paul interview. A perfect example of what MC Steele pointed out (I'm agreeing with Michael Steele?): "Philosophy doesn't match reality". He WANTS there to be term limits, but he won't VOLUNTEER to step down.



*ding*



Comment by Raine on 05/24/2010 16:39:12
I think the Prez is going to give a major speech by Friday regarding this oil spill.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 05/24/2010 21:18:22
Quote by Raine:

Color me shocked.
The New York Times interviewed Sarah Palin's ® father, Chuck Heath, who said he "was careful about nudging his daughter toward the things that interest him."



Said Heath: "I don't want to push the wrong button with Sarah. Besides, she doesn't make the decisions. Let me retract that. I'm sure she thinks them over and she has a lot of say as to yes and no."






Wrong button? Sarah's a robot?



The weathermen have been way off on the forecast high temperatures for the last few days. What was originally forecast as 70's for Saturday and today are close to 90. They're expecting almost 90 tomorrow, wonder what we'll really get.



I finally heard the noise my wife was complaining about this morning. An intermittent chatter from behind the dashboard where the ventilation blower is. My guess is more damage was done when the windshield was replaced and they dropped a razor blade into the blower motor. Problem is I can't make it happen on cue - yet.



So far I've heard lots about BP but very little about Halliburton and Transocean (except to deflect blame from each other). Wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Halliburton front and center as the cause of this.



Short of dropping a bunker-buster on BP HQ I don't see what Obama is supposed to do when a multi-national who supposedly has all the expertise is shown to still put it$ intere$t$ fir$t or shows their incompetence. Sounds like the only thing they'd listen to is a massive selloff of stock by the shareholders or other companies divesting their holdings.



Comment by trojanrabbit on 05/24/2010 21:40:10
Comment by livingonli on 05/24/2010 21:52:02
Quote by trojanrabbit:

More "fair and balanced" from Faux. They edit out the applause at Obama's commencement speech at West Point.


Why am I not surprised?

Comment by Raine on 05/25/2010 03:45:41
Quote by Raine:

I think the Prez is going to give a major speech by Friday regarding this oil spill.
Ok, not a major speech -- but this is good.