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A Strong Economy is National Security
Author: Raine    Date: 07/08/2010 12:59:46

I am trying to figure this one out... Tea Partiers keep yelling and screaming about the "out of Control Spending" by the big evil government but when it comes to defense -- that is where they want more.

Queen Teabagger, Sarah Palin is quoted as saying:
"Something has to be done urgently to stop the out-of-control Obama-Reid-Pelosi spending machine, and no government agency should be immune from budget scrutiny," she said. "We must make sure, however, that we do nothing to undermine the effectiveness of our military. If we lose wars, if we lose the ability to deter adversaries, if we lose the ability to provide security for ourselves and for our allies, we risk losing all that makes America great. That is a price we cannot afford to pay."
I would like to tell you that I understand this logic, but I don't. Even Secretary Gates understands that we need to cut the Pentagon budget for the good of the Nation as well as our national security.
But Gates said that the ballooning national debt lends his efforts a new urgency. "The national economic situation is different than it has ever been in modern times," he told reporters Friday. "If we want to sustain the current force, we have no alternative."
What many people don't seem to grasp is that a healthy economy is just as much a national security issue as a good military. To continue to build a military with a faltering economy reminds me of of what many dictatorships tend to do --- and I think we know how well that usually works out. I think you could point to North Korea as one example.

But going back to the issue of undermining our military and the proposal that secretary Gates has talked about:
Among Gates's apparent targets for major cuts are the private contractors the Pentagon has hired in large numbers over the past decade to take on administrative tasks that the military used to handle. The defense secretary estimated that this portion of the Pentagon budget has grown by as much as $23 billion, a figure that does not include the tens of billions of dollars spent on private firms supporting U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The defense contractors, who populate new office towers throughout Washington's suburbs and have been a major driver of the local economy, are a significant source of budgetary bloat, Gates said. "We ended up with contractors supervising other contractors -- with predictable results," he said in the speech Saturday.
How would that undermine our military? I would go so far as to suggest that many of these private contractors are part of the problem in hurting our military. We have long reported the issues of KBR and Blackwater/Xe here on this blog and what they have wrought onto not only our troops but American citizens. These are the things that can and should be cut from the defense budget, if Sarah Palin is suggesting that we need private contractors to prop up our military in order make us a secure nation, then she is either misinformed or intentionally misleading her followers.

I personally believe that without a healthy economy no military in the world will make a country more secure. A strong economy is one of the biggest factors for national security.

Maybe she just doesn't know what she is talking about. Maybe.

and
Raine


 

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Comment by clintster on 07/08/2010 12:36:50
If you need a conversation starter, I have one:



Woman yells at kids for giving away lemonade.



Seriously. This is the state of conservatism today.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 12:42:10
Morning

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 12:47:45
Wow, to me it sounds like these girls, who it seems like live in an affleunt neighborhood, have learn about philantorpy(sp). They have enough by their own standards and have sharing with others.

Comment by clintster on 07/08/2010 13:00:05
Quote by wickedpam:

Wow, to me it sounds like these girls, who it seems like live in an affleunt neighborhood, have learn about philantorpy(sp). They have enough by their own standards and have sharing with others.




I've just come to the conclusion that unless your first name is Dan, anyone with the "last name" of "Savage" is a douchenozzle.



What's more amazing to me is the commenters on HuffPo and Fark who defend this woman for trying to Galtify these girls. It's like seeing kids playing house and berating them for not drawing up a prenuptual agreement to ensure a "no-fault" end to the game.

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2010 13:05:12
Blogku:



There is no blog yet.

Hungrily, we wait for meat.

No pressure on Raine.





Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 13:09:48
Quote by TriSec:

Blogku:



There is no blog yet.

Hungrily, we wait for meat.

No pressure on Raine.





There is a blog now.

Tried to make a teabag point

on dishonesty

Comment by clintster on 07/08/2010 13:11:16
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m196/lizard_with_guns/Calvin%20and%20Hobbes/swiftkickentirestrip.jpg


Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 13:14:43
That lemonade story slays me. That woman is serious???



SHE is what is wrong with America today.

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2010 13:18:14
LeBron James is an ostentatious asshat.



The Lemonade Lady needs one of Calvin's kicks there, methinks.





Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 13:21:00
Mala, this movie might be of interest to you. 9500 LIBERTY

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2010 13:27:12
Say Raine, did you maybe mean North Korea?

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 13:32:50
Quote by TriSec:

Say Raine, did you maybe mean North Korea?


oops!





I did.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 13:34:05
Fixed.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 13:45:38
Quote by Raine:

Mala, this movie might be of interest to you. 9500 LIBERTY




interesting - the overturning of the overcrowding law is still a raw spot here. Its a serious problem in some neighborhoods (mine included) I've always understood why it was turned over, they basically said you have to be immediate fam to live together and that was wrong - it should have been strictly based on the number of occupants a building could hold.



Ever since I heard a story years ago about a family that died in a fire in Balitmore cause they lived in the basement of a 3-story rowhome with only one exit access - overcrowding has been a worry spot for me

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 13:47:27
Oh wait! I've seen that sign! - it was right across from the farmers market

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 13:50:42
Alan Grayson is funny as hell.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 13:53:20
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Mala, this movie might be of interest to you. 9500 LIBERTY




interesting - the overturning of the overcrowding law is still a raw spot here. Its a serious problem in some neighborhoods (mine included) I've always understood why it was turned over, they basically said you have to be immediate fam to live together and that was wrong - it should have been strictly based on the number of occupants a building could hold.



Ever since I heard a story years ago about a family that died in a fire in Balitmore cause they lived in the basement of a 3-story rowhome with only one exit access - overcrowding has been a worry spot for me




It appears to be an issue in this area as well. At the village meeting a few months ago, they brought in a community police officer to talk about it and how to report it.



It's very hard to enforce, it seems.



Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 13:57:20
I'm gonna put that on my netflix list - I didn't know a lot of that behind the scenes stuff

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 14:00:45
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Mala, this movie might be of interest to you. 9500 LIBERTY




interesting - the overturning of the overcrowding law is still a raw spot here. Its a serious problem in some neighborhoods (mine included) I've always understood why it was turned over, they basically said you have to be immediate fam to live together and that was wrong - it should have been strictly based on the number of occupants a building could hold.



Ever since I heard a story years ago about a family that died in a fire in Balitmore cause they lived in the basement of a 3-story rowhome with only one exit access - overcrowding has been a worry spot for me




It appears to be an issue in this area as well. At the village meeting a few months ago, they brought in a community police officer to talk about it and how to report it.



It's very hard to enforce, it seems.







It is, you have to be willing to report it first of all, and it can't be speculation, then you have to be willing to go to court - and no one is willing to do that.



Its a shame they've made it so hard to keep people safe

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 14:01:12
Quote by Raine:

Alan Grayson is funny as hell.






I do love that he comes on the show

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2010 14:17:07
Hmm. Could be a common theme these days.



My apartment complex has been trying to crack down on overcrowding, too. There have been reports of up to a dozen people in one unit (intended for 4). The tenant's association, in particular, is always on the lookout for this.



The difference is, we've got the backing of the landlord; they've evicted more than a few folks that are not playing by the rules.



We're not firetraps, but there is an apartment complex in Waltham (Windsor Village) that is known by the locals to avoid, as they only have one way in or out. If overcrowding is happening in Gardencrest, it's happening there, too.





Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/08/2010 14:24:43
Good morning, bloggers!!!



Raine, thanks for a look at our economy. We spend far more on our military than the rest of the world combined. So, I think some cuts are indeed in order.



While waiting for the blog, I found this on the Huffington Post:



Iranian Mother May Be Stoned To Death

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 14:27:37
As far as I can understand, the problem is actually having the authorities see the over crowding. Many of the people in this area appear to be transient.



I have not seen it in our part of the neighborhood, I will admit-- so I found it strange that it was brought up as a topic at all.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 14:31:45
George Allen is still around? Why?

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 14:34:47
Quote by Will in Chicago:

Good morning, bloggers!!!



Raine, thanks for a look at our economy. We spend far more on our military than the rest of the world combined. So, I think some cuts are indeed in order.



While waiting for the blog, I found this on the Huffington Post:



Iranian Mother May Be Stoned To Death


personally I would like to see huge cuts--- I really like what Gates is talking about regarding pentagon Overhead ---



One of the few things I agree with regarding Ron Paul is his stance on the military. Did anyone else see this editorial from him and Barney Frank?



I wonder how the Ron Paul supporters feel about the tea Baggers these days?

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 14:37:18
Quote by wickedpam:

George Allen is still around? Why?


attention whore?



Can we please always mention Macaque when we mention the name George Allen??





Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 14:39:02
I find that homes that do it are fairly good at hiding it - we have 2 homes across the street from me that rent out rooms (these are 3 level town homes built in the '80's they aren't very big and there's not exit from the basement in either of these) I've counted any where from 1 family of 5, 3 guys, a family of 3, 1 couple, 1 fam of 4 in just these too homes - its always in flux. A house a street over has about (the neighbors think anyway) 25 people most of those kids (which as become a nusiance issue for neighbors as the kids are often running around yelling and screaming at night - the police have been called alot on this home)



We have no power to limit them number of people, and its not safe, I'm so worried there's gonna be a fire and soethings going to happen to those kids.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 14:39:30
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

George Allen is still around? Why?


attention whore?



Can we please always mention Macaque when we mention the name George Allen??









I concur

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2010 14:41:51
Perhaps somewhat apropo to the blog...in the past century, there have been economic upheavals, and what did they bring us?



In post WWI America, right as the Volstead act was going into effect, the economy had a postwar slump....Check out the Italian Anarchists of the day and the entire Sacco & Vanzetti affair.



And during the Great Depression, we had actual Communists, the German-American Bund, and a whole host of anti-semite "America Firsters" up until December 7, 1941.



There's no galvanizing event to unify these United States right now....but it's all too easy to balkanize and blame somebody else four your troubles.





Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 14:41:59
that still makes me laugh

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 14:43:26
I love the Onion story!! It never gets old to me!!!

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 14:46:38
Quote by TriSec:

Perhaps somewhat apropo to the blog...in the past century, there have been economic upheavals, and what did they bring us?



In post WWI America, right as the Volstead act was going into effect, the economy had a postwar slump....Check out the Italian Anarchists of the day and the entire Sacco & Vanzetti affair.



And during the Great Depression, we had actual Communists, the German-American Bund, and a whole host of anti-semite "America Firsters" up until December 7, 1941.



There's no galvanizing event to unify these United States right now....but it's all too easy to balkanize and blame somebody else four your troubles.







I might be willing to suggest that the election of the Barack Hussein Obama was such an event that galvanized certain factors in out nation.



Perhaps we underestimate certain sectors of this nation.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 14:48:49
1999 <-- it's been a while since I heard that bumper!

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2010 14:52:49
Good morning everyone.





Not as hot today, but still pretty damn humid.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 15:06:14
I know that Green's Liquor store!!!



Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 15:11:02
I love Glee - its a happy peppy show

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 15:38:50
congress critter with bad phone connection...

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 15:41:01
Hmm.



Not sure how I am feeling about Sestak right now. I want to listen to this interview again.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 15:41:45
I"ve not paid attention - what has he been saying

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2010 15:47:15
Kind of drifting in and out myself. The internet distracted me.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2010 15:48:35
Quote by livingonli:

Kind of drifting in and out myself. The internet distracted me.






the internet often distracts me too

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/08/2010 15:50:19
Morning bloggers. Speaking of clueless Republicans, The Mittster (remember him) recently did a critique of the latest START treaty his take is it Bad for America! Unfortunately for Mitt his national security ghost writer doesn't know shit about the weapons in question. in his article Mitt said the following:



Similarly, multiple nuclear warheads that are mounted on bombers are effectively not counted. Unlike past treaty restrictions, ICBMs are not prohibited from bombers. This means ...that Russia is free to mount a nearly unlimited number of ICBMs on bombers—including MIRVs (multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles) or multiple warheads—without tripping the treaty's limits."



Really I didn't know that either the US or Russia had INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILES mounted on bombers. This as the kids say is an epic fail.



For a nice look at Romney's article here is an article from Slate

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 15:52:19
Quote by Raine:

Hmm.



Not sure how I am feeling about Sestak right now. I want to listen to this interview again.


He sorta said something to the effect that we should be able to keep drilling in the gulf -- then clarified it with *But not DEEPWATER drilling*



I tend to agree with the premise of what he is saying, but he REALLY came across as a little too blue dog dem for me -- considering he has not been elected.

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2010 16:07:38
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

Hmm.



Not sure how I am feeling about Sestak right now. I want to listen to this interview again.


He sorta said something to the effect that we should be able to keep drilling in the gulf -- then clarified it with *But not DEEPWATER drilling*



I tend to agree with the premise of what he is saying, but he REALLY came across as a little too blue dog dem for me -- considering he has not been elected.


That is a bit of a backpedal since he was voted for in the primary because Specter was not seen as progressive enough due to his many years with the GOP.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2010 16:11:41
Uhm... Ed Shultz is sounding a little too shilly for MSNBC. he said no one on MSNBC EVER lies.





That is a little to hubris for me, personally. I don;t need a Radio host to be doing an advertisement for MSNBC. maybe he doesn't realize what he is doing...



and those lies he says aren;t being told? Uhhh--- MSNBC still has Pat Buchanan on the payroll.

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2010 16:25:30
Quote by Raine:

Uhm... Ed Shultz is sounding a little too shilly for MSNBC. he said no one on MSNBC EVER lies.





That is a little to hubris for me, personally. I don;t need a Radio host to be doing an advertisement for MSNBC. maybe he doesn't realize what he is doing...



and those lies he says aren;t being told? Uhhh--- MSNBC still has Pat Buchanan on the payroll.


I'm listening to Peter B. Collins filling in for Thom right now. I wonder if this falls into the pattern as to why Randi Rhodes or Mike Malloy never cared that much for him. Then there was his infamous attack on Air America a few years back.

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2010 16:58:25
"Would you launch an ICBM Horizontally?"



"Sure, why would you want to?"



- Hunt for Red October, circa 1990.





Ah, Mitt. (and it's George Romney's birthday today. 1907.)





Comment by BobR on 07/08/2010 17:09:27
Quote by wickedpam:

I find that homes that do it are fairly good at hiding it - we have 2 homes across the street from me that rent out rooms (these are 3 level town homes built in the '80's they aren't very big and there's not exit from the basement in either of these) I've counted any where from 1 family of 5, 3 guys, a family of 3, 1 couple, 1 fam of 4 in just these too homes - its always in flux. A house a street over has about (the neighbors think anyway) 25 people most of those kids (which as become a nusiance issue for neighbors as the kids are often running around yelling and screaming at night - the police have been called alot on this home)



We have no power to limit them number of people, and its not safe, I'm so worried there's gonna be a fire and soethings going to happen to those kids.


Report them to Zoning





Comment by Scoopster on 07/08/2010 17:14:27
Good afternoon everyone!



A friend of mine made an interesting suggestion in regards to the Lemonade Loser Lady.. He said we should post the article on 4chan (aka the internet's den of anonymous mischief makers) and suggest that everyone send FREE BOXES OF LEMONADE to her desk at the Sun-Times.



I think it's a fantastic and hilariously satirical idea. Tho I wouldn't post it on 4chan since they'd be more likely to send much less appropriate items..

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2010 17:54:27
17 days later, and my ride is finally ready!



(partly my fault...I didn't want to face it initially, so let it sit 48 hours, then we've had two weekends plus a holiday.)



Heading out early to catch the bus.





And in a personal note, we've lost a cousin in the TriSec extended family. My cousin "Frankie" passed on last night. He was more of a distant relative; he had actually dropped off the face of the earth for almost 20 years. His sisters finally tracked him down about 3 years ago, which was a good thing, since he was in very poor health. At least they made their peace.



I was thinking about that a bit today....Frankie is the first of my mother's generation to meet their end. Clock keeps ticking, I guess.