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Ask a Vet
Author: TriSec
Date: 07/27/2010 10:01:09
Good Morning.
Today is our 2,687th day in Iraq and our 3,215th day in Afghanistan.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing wars, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4413
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4274
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3952
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3554
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 185
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,206
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 760
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,457
Journalists - Iraq: 338
Academics Killed - Iraq: 437
We find this morning's cost of war passing through:
$ 1, 021, 675, 900, 000 .00
As you're probably aware, the media in this country always focuses on the "body count", whether it's the 'enemy' or our own soldiers, those that gave the last full measure of their devotion always seem to garner the most headlines. In any war, the wounded always outnumber the dead, and these are the soldiers that are often overlooked. Over the years, we've tried to stay on top of the goings on at Walter Reed, the diagnosis and treatment of TBI and PTSD, and what the government has been doing to make sure these soldiers have a chance to get back into society.
Here is one of those stories.
But what defines a "hero"? In this day and age, it's a term that's been overused to death. I'm actually starting to be annoyed by the local media and their splashy graphics that proclaim "FALLEN HERO" whenever there is another casualty of war. While there is no doubt that some of their exploits are indeed noble and heroic, the vast majority of our soldiers are just ordinary people....and "hero" is not a label that should sit well with them. There's a lengthy piece that was posted at Truthout last week that I hesitated to post....but nevertheless, here it is.
Finally this morning, I leave you with a many-page report from the BBC. When we still had a forum, I was making a half-hearted attempt to keep track of all the drone strikes in Pakistan under the heading "Drone Wars". This is so little-known that it's easy for the MSM to overlook it, so we are essentially carrying on an undeclared war against what is allegedly a 'major regional ally' in our ongoing war against Al-Qaeda. It's surely worth the time to check out.
Today is our 2,687th day in Iraq and our 3,215th day in Afghanistan.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing wars, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4413
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4274
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3952
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3554
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 185
Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,206
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 760
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,457
Journalists - Iraq: 338
Academics Killed - Iraq: 437
We find this morning's cost of war passing through:
As you're probably aware, the media in this country always focuses on the "body count", whether it's the 'enemy' or our own soldiers, those that gave the last full measure of their devotion always seem to garner the most headlines. In any war, the wounded always outnumber the dead, and these are the soldiers that are often overlooked. Over the years, we've tried to stay on top of the goings on at Walter Reed, the diagnosis and treatment of TBI and PTSD, and what the government has been doing to make sure these soldiers have a chance to get back into society.
Here is one of those stories.
BOSTON --
With 2,000 American military personnel injured in action since the beginning of the year, 2010 may be one of the worst years for troops being wounded in Afghanistan. Now, many of them have gone from fighting on the war front to a very different battle on the home front.
NewsCenter 5's Liz Brunner traveled to Washington, D.C., to the Walter Reed Army Medical Center Hospital to meet with Sgt. Brendan Ferreira, 23, from Assonet.
"Iraq is more like being a police officer and Afghanistan is more like a real war," he said. "You can't let your guard down in that country. Somebody strapped a bunch of bombs to themselves and ran up behind me. I knew I lost my hand in the explosion. They didn't know if I was going to make it."
Those are the memories of March 9, 2010, that Ferreira carries with him every day. Days before his 23rd birthday, a suicide bomber attack in Afghanistan killed two of his fellow soldiers and left him critically injured.
Ferreira's mother, Lisa, said the Army official who called to tell them about their son said he had been very seriously injured.
Ferreira lost his left arm below his elbow, had a compound fracture in his right leg, a severed artery in his left leg, shrapnel injuries and burns to his face and body, 10 stitches in his eye, total hearing loss in his left ear and half of his hearing was gone in his right ear.
Lisa and Michael Ferreira said they didn't even recognize their own son when they first saw him at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
"He was so swollen," Michael Ferreira said.
"I think the only reason why we knew it was him was when we looked at his left arm and he had his tattoos and we said, 'That's Brendan,'" Lisa Ferreira said.
Ferreira grew up in Assonet. After high school, he became a professional arborist, but held a secret desire to join the military. After serving 14 months in Iraq, he went to Afghanistan. Ferreira has earned two Purple Hearts.
From his hospital bed, Ferreira said his work is not done.
"If I could suddenly grow my arm back, just for the rest of the time that my soldiers are there, and get my sight back and get everything back, instead of running home and enjoying it, I would run right back over there and help them," he said.
But months of healing, therapy, learning how to use a prosthetic arm, standing and trying to walk again lie ahead of Ferreira.
His parents said it has been a difficult journey to watch.
"As a mom, you're supposed to be the one to take that all away. I can't take that away from him. He has to go through it," Lisa Ferreira said.
"I cry every day. But I got to stay strong for him," Michael Ferreira said.
The Ferreiras said they feel very fortunate that their son is alive and came home and that they can talk to him and feel him. They said they feel bad for the families that can't do that.
Lisa Ferreira said it pains her to think about the families of her son's two friends who were killed in the attack.
"Their son came home in a box," she said.
But what defines a "hero"? In this day and age, it's a term that's been overused to death. I'm actually starting to be annoyed by the local media and their splashy graphics that proclaim "FALLEN HERO" whenever there is another casualty of war. While there is no doubt that some of their exploits are indeed noble and heroic, the vast majority of our soldiers are just ordinary people....and "hero" is not a label that should sit well with them. There's a lengthy piece that was posted at Truthout last week that I hesitated to post....but nevertheless, here it is.
When I was a kid in the 1970s, I loved reading accounts of American heroism from World War II. I remember being riveted by a book about the staunch Marine defenders of Wake Island and inspired by John F. Kennedy's exploits saving the sailors he commanded on PT-109. Closer to home, I had an uncle -- like so many vets of that war, relatively silent on his own experiences -- who had been at Pearl Harbor when the Japanese attacked on December 7, 1941, and then fought them in a brutal campaign on Guadalcanal, where he earned a Bronze Star. Such men seemed like heroes to me, so it came as something of a shock when, in 1980, I first heard Yoda's summary of war in The Empire Strikes Back. Luke Skywalker, if you remember, tells the wizened Jedi master that he seeks "a great warrior." "Wars not make one great," Yoda replies.
Okay, it was George Lucas talking, I suppose, but I was struck by the truth of that statement. Of course, my little epiphany didn't come just because of Yoda or Lucas. By my late teens, even as I was gearing up for a career in the military, I had already begun to wonder about the common ethos that linked heroism to military service and war. Certainly, military service (especially the life-and-death struggles of combat) provides an occasion for the exercise of heroism, but even then I instinctively knew that it didn't constitute heroism.
Ever since the events of 9/11, there's been an almost religious veneration of U.S. service members as "Our American Heroes" (as a well-intentioned sign puts it at my local post office). That a snappy uniform or even intense combat in far-off countries don't magically transform troops into heroes seems a simple point to make, but it's one worth making again and again, and not only to impressionable, military-worshipping teenagers.
Here, then, is what I mean by "hero": someone who behaves selflessly, usually at considerable personal risk and sacrifice, to comfort or empower others and to make the world a better place. Heroes, of course, come in all sizes, shapes, ages, and colors, most of them looking nothing like John Wayne or John Rambo or GI Joe (or Jane).
"Hero," sadly, is now used far too cavalierly. Sportscasters, for example, routinely refer to highly paid jocks who hit walk-off home runs or score game-winning touchdowns as heroes. Even though I come from a family of firefighters (and one police officer), the most heroic person I've ever known was neither a firefighter nor a cop nor a jock: She was my mother, a homemaker who raised five kids and endured without complaint the ravages of cancer in the 1970s, with its then crude chemotherapy regimen, its painful cobalt treatments, the collateral damage of loss of hair, vitality, and lucidity. In refusing to rail against her fate or to take her pain out on others, she set an example of selfless courage and heroism I'll never forget.
(Continued...)
Finally this morning, I leave you with a many-page report from the BBC. When we still had a forum, I was making a half-hearted attempt to keep track of all the drone strikes in Pakistan under the heading "Drone Wars". This is so little-known that it's easy for the MSM to overlook it, so we are essentially carrying on an undeclared war against what is allegedly a 'major regional ally' in our ongoing war against Al-Qaeda. It's surely worth the time to check out.
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 13:09:50
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 13:09:50
Morning 
Comment by 
TriSec on 07/27/2010 13:11:23
TriSec on 07/27/2010 13:11:23
Morning, comrades.
I'm a bit perturbed this morning...I ran a cost/benefit analysis for riding the train next month...it's significantly cheaper for me to drive. I'd need gas to be about $6 a gallon in order to break even.
Sure, I want to do the right thing, but money in my pocket is more important right now.
I'm a bit perturbed this morning...I ran a cost/benefit analysis for riding the train next month...it's significantly cheaper for me to drive. I'd need gas to be about $6 a gallon in order to break even.
Sure, I want to do the right thing, but money in my pocket is more important right now.
Comment by 
BobR on 07/27/2010 13:19:35
It's pretty much even-steven for me, because I have $4 in tolls for the round trip. I need to recalc my Metro costs, since the fares went up a few weeks ago (and will go up again next week).
Regardless, I enjoy being able to read the paper instead of giving my feet a workout with the clutch and brake
BobR on 07/27/2010 13:19:35
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
I'm a bit perturbed this morning...I ran a cost/benefit analysis for riding the train next month...it's significantly cheaper for me to drive. I'd need gas to be about $6 a gallon in order to break even.
Sure, I want to do the right thing, but money in my pocket is more important right now.
It's pretty much even-steven for me, because I have $4 in tolls for the round trip. I need to recalc my Metro costs, since the fares went up a few weeks ago (and will go up again next week).
Regardless, I enjoy being able to read the paper instead of giving my feet a workout with the clutch and brake
Comment by 
Raine on 07/27/2010 13:20:25
good morning!
Raine on 07/27/2010 13:20:25
good morning!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 13:28:38
I bet I could find you all the old roads to help avoid the tolls - might take a little longer though
The cost and time for me to take public transit doesn't pan out either - that's the one thing the sucks being a little farther out in the Xurbs
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 13:28:38
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
I'm a bit perturbed this morning...I ran a cost/benefit analysis for riding the train next month...it's significantly cheaper for me to drive. I'd need gas to be about $6 a gallon in order to break even.
Sure, I want to do the right thing, but money in my pocket is more important right now.
It's pretty much even-steven for me, because I have $4 in tolls for the round trip. I need to recalc my Metro costs, since the fares went up a few weeks ago (and will go up again next week).
Regardless, I enjoy being able to read the paper instead of giving my feet a workout with the clutch and brake
I bet I could find you all the old roads to help avoid the tolls - might take a little longer though
The cost and time for me to take public transit doesn't pan out either - that's the one thing the sucks being a little farther out in the Xurbs
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 13:30:04
Hey
I swear my phone is plotting against me.
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 13:30:04
Quote by Raine:
Hey
I swear my phone is plotting against me.
Comment by TriSec on 07/27/2010 13:30:27
TriSec on 07/27/2010 13:30:27
I have always enjoyed my morning walk to the station; it's usually quiet, and especially in the deep winter, it's just me and the birds out at that hour.
It comes down to parking; the company owns a private lot and we all park for free. If I had to pay for it, it wouldn't be an issue.
I have read 2 books on the train this past month....I'll certainly miss that.
It comes down to parking; the company owns a private lot and we all park for free. If I had to pay for it, it wouldn't be an issue.
I have read 2 books on the train this past month....I'll certainly miss that.
Comment by BobR on 07/27/2010 13:40:50
BobR on 07/27/2010 13:40:50
regarding the blog, I know you miss your outlet for certain things (Like the drones and Baghdad Bombs). Perhaps we can figure out something for the blog here for semi-permament ongoing entries...
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 07/27/2010 14:13:42
Will in Chicago on 07/27/2010 14:13:42
Good morning, bloggers!
TriSec, we do indeed have to be mindful of our soldiers. I think that most of them would not call themselves heroes, but men and women trying to do a difficult job.
The UNN messageboards are up and have some good articles. So, I posted TriSec's link to the BBC in the Afghanistan section. as Mapping attacks in Pakistan.
Is there any chance that the old boards can be found and at least kept in an archival form? Also, I know that not everyone who was semi-active on the boards has been tot the blog in the while? Maybe an e-mail might be a good idea.
TriSec, we do indeed have to be mindful of our soldiers. I think that most of them would not call themselves heroes, but men and women trying to do a difficult job.
The UNN messageboards are up and have some good articles. So, I posted TriSec's link to the BBC in the Afghanistan section. as Mapping attacks in Pakistan.
Is there any chance that the old boards can be found and at least kept in an archival form? Also, I know that not everyone who was semi-active on the boards has been tot the blog in the while? Maybe an e-mail might be a good idea.
Comment by Al from WV on 07/27/2010 14:21:50
When I used to live pretty close to where Bob works (like 5 minutes away) and work pretty close to where Bob lives (like 7 minutes away), I calculated that gas would have to be 4.95/gal or so to make it a wash, which included the tolls Bob speaks of (which were 2.50 then, only a year ago or so). Driving is much cheaper around here, IF parking is not an issue.
Ergo, since DC loves coercing people to ride Metro and casts drivers in the category of child molesters and rapists (almost), parking in town is a collusion of private parking operators, parking ticket fees, and parking ticket enforcers.
Makes me just mad enough to drive, save the money, spite them in my own little way, an dodge/workaround their collusion to make parking difficult. I am mostly successful.
For reference, the parking supplied for my building is $265/month and you don't get a guaranteed space for that, you get a guaranteed right to go in and see if they have any spaces left. Then you get to give them your key, because they park them 3 and 4 deep, and they routinely have to drive your car to let others out. Oh, and you get to sign a release that says if they bend your car, they don't have to fix your car. I don't park down there.
Raine, did you get my email with the Rules of Conduct and the Mission Statement attached?
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
I'm a bit perturbed this morning...I ran a cost/benefit analysis for riding the train next month...it's significantly cheaper for me to drive. I'd need gas to be about $6 a gallon in order to break even.
Sure, I want to do the right thing, but money in my pocket is more important right now.
When I used to live pretty close to where Bob works (like 5 minutes away) and work pretty close to where Bob lives (like 7 minutes away), I calculated that gas would have to be 4.95/gal or so to make it a wash, which included the tolls Bob speaks of (which were 2.50 then, only a year ago or so). Driving is much cheaper around here, IF parking is not an issue.
Ergo, since DC loves coercing people to ride Metro and casts drivers in the category of child molesters and rapists (almost), parking in town is a collusion of private parking operators, parking ticket fees, and parking ticket enforcers.
Makes me just mad enough to drive, save the money, spite them in my own little way, an dodge/workaround their collusion to make parking difficult. I am mostly successful.
For reference, the parking supplied for my building is $265/month and you don't get a guaranteed space for that, you get a guaranteed right to go in and see if they have any spaces left. Then you get to give them your key, because they park them 3 and 4 deep, and they routinely have to drive your car to let others out. Oh, and you get to sign a release that says if they bend your car, they don't have to fix your car. I don't park down there.
Raine, did you get my email with the Rules of Conduct and the Mission Statement attached?
Comment by Al from WV on 07/27/2010 14:25:26
I'm sure you could find him all the old roads... Basically 7, left on 606, etc... Problem is, in my experience, at 2.50/gal, I saved enough gas on the toll road vs 7 to make up the toll and more. With the toll higher now.... not sure.
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
I'm a bit perturbed this morning...I ran a cost/benefit analysis for riding the train next month...it's significantly cheaper for me to drive. I'd need gas to be about $6 a gallon in order to break even.
Sure, I want to do the right thing, but money in my pocket is more important right now.
It's pretty much even-steven for me, because I have $4 in tolls for the round trip. I need to recalc my Metro costs, since the fares went up a few weeks ago (and will go up again next week).
Regardless, I enjoy being able to read the paper instead of giving my feet a workout with the clutch and brake
I bet I could find you all the old roads to help avoid the tolls - might take a little longer though
The cost and time for me to take public transit doesn't pan out either - that's the one thing the sucks being a little farther out in the Xurbs
I'm sure you could find him all the old roads... Basically 7, left on 606, etc... Problem is, in my experience, at 2.50/gal, I saved enough gas on the toll road vs 7 to make up the toll and more. With the toll higher now.... not sure.
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 14:28:00
GWB February 27, 2001
Raine on 07/27/2010 14:28:00
I hope you will join me in standing firmly on the side of the people. You see, the growing surplus exists because taxes are too high and government is charging more than it needs. The people of America have been overcharged and, on their behalf, I am here asking for a refund.
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 14:29:49
Let me go check! 
Raine on 07/27/2010 14:29:49
Quote by Al from WV:
Raine, did you get my email with the Rules of Conduct and the Mission Statement attached?
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 14:33:47
Raine on 07/27/2010 14:33:47
Al, I don't see it anywhere in my mail box. 
Comment by TriSec on 07/27/2010 14:34:29
TriSec on 07/27/2010 14:34:29
Well, I have done some more math...there are 4 express bus routes that leave from the train station that go right downtown (about a block from the same subway line the Commuter Rail connects to). These are actually my backup in case the train is late.
That pass is only $89....my break-even point was $93. This has some possibility.
But it's far longer in time, since the bus goes through Newton Corner and sits on the Mass Pike. Usually not bad in the morning, but it's a tough afternoon ride.
That pass is only $89....my break-even point was $93. This has some possibility.
But it's far longer in time, since the bus goes through Newton Corner and sits on the Mass Pike. Usually not bad in the morning, but it's a tough afternoon ride.
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 14:40:28
Raine on 07/27/2010 14:40:28
Oh wait -- Al I have it!!! (would have helped for me to press the "get mail" button...
Comment by TriSec on 07/27/2010 14:48:23
TriSec on 07/27/2010 14:48:23
Hmm, since we don't have a 'lair' anymore, let's throw this out for everyone to chew on.
With our forum dead, instead of trying to re-invent the wheel, how about we linkup with UNN? I think most of us are members over there, and we're familiar with the forum structure.
I know we had a button up top to our old forum, Bob could just as easily put a link to UNN, yes?
< thinking out loud >
With our forum dead, instead of trying to re-invent the wheel, how about we linkup with UNN? I think most of us are members over there, and we're familiar with the forum structure.
I know we had a button up top to our old forum, Bob could just as easily put a link to UNN, yes?
< thinking out loud >
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 14:53:32
7's a nightmare - I never tell anyone to drive on 7. In fact I can't wait for them to finish the metro station at Tysons so I can park at Dunn Loring or Vienna at Christmas and metro over to tysons to shop - I hate driving over there! It was always bad but ever since they made Tysons 2 floors its gone down hill
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 14:53:32
Quote by Al from WV:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
I'm a bit perturbed this morning...I ran a cost/benefit analysis for riding the train next month...it's significantly cheaper for me to drive. I'd need gas to be about $6 a gallon in order to break even.
Sure, I want to do the right thing, but money in my pocket is more important right now.
It's pretty much even-steven for me, because I have $4 in tolls for the round trip. I need to recalc my Metro costs, since the fares went up a few weeks ago (and will go up again next week).
Regardless, I enjoy being able to read the paper instead of giving my feet a workout with the clutch and brake
I bet I could find you all the old roads to help avoid the tolls - might take a little longer though
The cost and time for me to take public transit doesn't pan out either - that's the one thing the sucks being a little farther out in the Xurbs
I'm sure you could find him all the old roads... Basically 7, left on 606, etc... Problem is, in my experience, at 2.50/gal, I saved enough gas on the toll road vs 7 to make up the toll and more. With the toll higher now.... not sure.
7's a nightmare - I never tell anyone to drive on 7. In fact I can't wait for them to finish the metro station at Tysons so I can park at Dunn Loring or Vienna at Christmas and metro over to tysons to shop - I hate driving over there! It was always bad but ever since they made Tysons 2 floors its gone down hill
Comment by TriSec on 07/27/2010 14:56:39
TriSec on 07/27/2010 14:56:39
Nobody is allowed to shop at the LL Bean at Tyson's Corner. They are our enemy.
(No, really...after the Mothership, it's between Burlington (my store) and Tyson's to round out the top 3. We take this stuff pretty seriously.)
(No, really...after the Mothership, it's between Burlington (my store) and Tyson's to round out the top 3. We take this stuff pretty seriously.)
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 14:57:22
Are you a secrect mind reader? I was thinking that earlier when Will mentioned them
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 14:57:22
Quote by TriSec:
Hmm, since we don't have a 'lair' anymore, let's throw this out for everyone to chew on.
With our forum dead, instead of trying to re-invent the wheel, how about we linkup with UNN? I think most of us are members over there, and we're familiar with the forum structure.
I know we had a button up top to our old forum, Bob could just as easily put a link to UNN, yes?
< thinking out loud >
Are you a secrect mind reader? I was thinking that earlier when Will mentioned them
Comment by Al from WV on 07/27/2010 15:01:08
Shrug... drove it for ages while my office was off 7 and 395. Pain? yeah, some, but what I found worse was the City of Falls Church cops that would ticket for 38 in a 35. By the time I got through that, the three lights passing Tyson's were no big deal. Heck, the worst part now is the construction where they are removing the service road remnants between the Toll Road and 123.
One person's "too much for me" is another's "I don't mind" and they are both right, for themselves...
Hope things are well with you guys, Pam. Take care.
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Al from WV:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
I'm a bit perturbed this morning...I ran a cost/benefit analysis for riding the train next month...it's significantly cheaper for me to drive. I'd need gas to be about $6 a gallon in order to break even.
Sure, I want to do the right thing, but money in my pocket is more important right now.
It's pretty much even-steven for me, because I have $4 in tolls for the round trip. I need to recalc my Metro costs, since the fares went up a few weeks ago (and will go up again next week).
Regardless, I enjoy being able to read the paper instead of giving my feet a workout with the clutch and brake
I bet I could find you all the old roads to help avoid the tolls - might take a little longer though
The cost and time for me to take public transit doesn't pan out either - that's the one thing the sucks being a little farther out in the Xurbs
I'm sure you could find him all the old roads... Basically 7, left on 606, etc... Problem is, in my experience, at 2.50/gal, I saved enough gas on the toll road vs 7 to make up the toll and more. With the toll higher now.... not sure.
7's a nightmare - I never tell anyone to drive on 7. In fact I can't wait for them to finish the metro station at Tysons so I can park at Dunn Loring or Vienna at Christmas and metro over to tysons to shop - I hate driving over there! It was always bad but ever since they made Tysons 2 floors its gone down hill
Shrug... drove it for ages while my office was off 7 and 395. Pain? yeah, some, but what I found worse was the City of Falls Church cops that would ticket for 38 in a 35. By the time I got through that, the three lights passing Tyson's were no big deal. Heck, the worst part now is the construction where they are removing the service road remnants between the Toll Road and 123.
One person's "too much for me" is another's "I don't mind" and they are both right, for themselves...
Hope things are well with you guys, Pam. Take care.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:02:08
but, but, but I can't always get the stuff I need from the catalog! *pouts*
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:02:08
Quote by TriSec:
Nobody is allowed to shop at the LL Bean at Tyson's Corner. They are our enemy.
(No, really...after the Mothership, it's between Burlington (my store) and Tyson's to round out the top 3. We take this stuff pretty seriously.)
but, but, but I can't always get the stuff I need from the catalog! *pouts*
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:04:50
So far so good - just some neighborhood asshatery drama but all in all we're doin' okay in the wilds of Manassas
Hope things are going well for you guys too
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:04:50
Quote by Al from WV:
Shrug... drove it for ages while my office was off 7 and 395. Pain? yeah, some, but what I found worse was the City of Falls Church cops that would ticket for 38 in a 35. By the time I got through that, the three lights passing Tyson's were no big deal. Heck, the worst part now is the construction where they are removing the service road remnants between the Toll Road and 123.
One person's "too much for me" is another's "I don't mind" and they are both right, for themselves...
Hope things are well with you guys, Pam. Take care.
So far so good - just some neighborhood asshatery drama but all in all we're doin' okay in the wilds of Manassas
Hope things are going well for you guys too
Comment by Al from WV on 07/27/2010 15:05:08
I haven't been in Bean since my buddy who used to be a fly fishing instructor there left to be the Riverkeeper for the Shenandoah River. No worries here, and I won't be slipping over to the Orvis store, either. Walk in there with a hillbilly accent and they damn near want to put protective coveralls, boots, and gloves on you. Dare to mention that you only fly fish for smallmouth and they get out the rail, tar, and feathers.
Quote by TriSec:
Nobody is allowed to shop at the LL Bean at Tyson's Corner. They are our enemy.
(No, really...after the Mothership, it's between Burlington (my store) and Tyson's to round out the top 3. We take this stuff pretty seriously.)
I haven't been in Bean since my buddy who used to be a fly fishing instructor there left to be the Riverkeeper for the Shenandoah River. No worries here, and I won't be slipping over to the Orvis store, either. Walk in there with a hillbilly accent and they damn near want to put protective coveralls, boots, and gloves on you. Dare to mention that you only fly fish for smallmouth and they get out the rail, tar, and feathers.
Comment by Al from WV on 07/27/2010 15:06:41
Plugging along. It mostly sucks, but we're getting by.
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Al from WV:
Shrug... drove it for ages while my office was off 7 and 395. Pain? yeah, some, but what I found worse was the City of Falls Church cops that would ticket for 38 in a 35. By the time I got through that, the three lights passing Tyson's were no big deal. Heck, the worst part now is the construction where they are removing the service road remnants between the Toll Road and 123.
One person's "too much for me" is another's "I don't mind" and they are both right, for themselves...
Hope things are well with you guys, Pam. Take care.
So far so good - just some neighborhood asshatery drama but all in all we're doin' okay in the wilds of Manassas
Hope things are going well for you guys too
Plugging along. It mostly sucks, but we're getting by.
Comment by Al from WV on 07/27/2010 15:08:25
Then obviously, you need to go into Bean in Tysons, identify the item (with SKU) that you want, email Tri the SKU, and have him have his store contact you for shipping and payment info.
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:
Nobody is allowed to shop at the LL Bean at Tyson's Corner. They are our enemy.
(No, really...after the Mothership, it's between Burlington (my store) and Tyson's to round out the top 3. We take this stuff pretty seriously.)
but, but, but I can't always get the stuff I need from the catalog! *pouts*
Then obviously, you need to go into Bean in Tysons, identify the item (with SKU) that you want, email Tri the SKU, and have him have his store contact you for shipping and payment info.
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 15:08:25
Raine on 07/27/2010 15:08:25
Ya know, Al, one of these nights, We'd love to have you over for dinner. Yes, that is an official invitation. That is if Mrs. Al doesn't mind.. :)
Comment by Al from WV on 07/27/2010 15:09:17
Deeply appreciated. Mrs. Al will be a problem. I'll explain offline.
Quote by Raine:
Ya know, Al, one of these nights, We'd love to have you over for dinner. Yes, that is an official invitation. That is if Mrs. Al doesn't mind.. :)
Deeply appreciated. Mrs. Al will be a problem. I'll explain offline.
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 15:09:36
Of course, it should go without saying that We'd love to have her come by as well!
Raine on 07/27/2010 15:09:36
Quote by Raine:
Ya know, Al, one of these nights, We'd love to have you over for dinner. Yes, that is an official invitation. That is if Mrs. Al doesn't mind..
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 15:09:56
Alright.
Raine on 07/27/2010 15:09:56
Quote by Al from WV:Quote by Raine:
Ya know, Al, one of these nights, We'd love to have you over for dinner. Yes, that is an official invitation. That is if Mrs. Al doesn't mind.. :)
Deeply appreciated. Mrs. Al will be a problem. I'll explain offline.
Alright.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:10:12
Good idea
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:10:12
Quote by Al from WV:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:
Nobody is allowed to shop at the LL Bean at Tyson's Corner. They are our enemy.
(No, really...after the Mothership, it's between Burlington (my store) and Tyson's to round out the top 3. We take this stuff pretty seriously.)
Then obviously, you need to go into Bean in Tysons, identify the item (with SKU) that you want, email Tri the SKU, and have him have his store contact you for shipping and payment info.
but, but, but I can't always get the stuff I need from the catalog! *pouts*
Good idea
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 15:11:07
Raine on 07/27/2010 15:11:07
I love all the soft pop on the show. I am NOT ashamed to say it.
Chris' pain is my total joy.
Chris' pain is my total joy.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:12:29
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:12:29
And now here's a song about a dog...
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 15:36:39
Raine on 07/27/2010 15:36:39
I knew the song the caller was talking about... 
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:40:13
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:40:13
I can't remember it - all I think of when I hear the name Sylvia is that episode of LIttle House that has something to do with child molesting
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:41:02
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:41:02
and that song is in my ipod
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:47:12
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:47:12
Muskrat song That just makes me happy, like the little girl in the Despicable Me trailer that yells "It's so FLUFFY!" about her stuffed carnival prize
That just makes me happy, like the little girl in the Despicable Me trailer that yells "It's so FLUFFY!" about her stuffed carnival prize
Comment by TriSec on 07/27/2010 15:47:36
:blink:
Right out of our playbook:
"We're a small store, so we don't always carry the entire product line. If you can get to Freeport (It's only 2 hours from Burlington), they always have the entire product line all the time. Otherwise, let me check online for you, we can always get everything through the catalog."
The only caveat...once something is sold out, they pull the listing from the website.
TriSec on 07/27/2010 15:47:36
Quote by wickedpam:
but, but, but I can't always get the stuff I need from the catalog! *pouts*
:blink:
Right out of our playbook:
"We're a small store, so we don't always carry the entire product line. If you can get to Freeport (It's only 2 hours from Burlington), they always have the entire product line all the time. Otherwise, let me check online for you, we can always get everything through the catalog."
The only caveat...once something is sold out, they pull the listing from the website.
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 15:47:54
Chris is killing me today!
Raine on 07/27/2010 15:47:54
Chris is killing me today!
Comment by TriSec on 07/27/2010 15:49:09
Well geez, Al...you need to get to Burlington. They always look askance at me when I'm checking out the spinning or baitcasting stuff. It's all fly-guys here.
TriSec on 07/27/2010 15:49:09
Quote by Al from WV:
I haven't been in Bean since my buddy who used to be a fly fishing instructor there left to be the Riverkeeper for the Shenandoah River. No worries here, and I won't be slipping over to the Orvis store, either. Walk in there with a hillbilly accent and they damn near want to put protective coveralls, boots, and gloves on you. Dare to mention that you only fly fish for smallmouth and they get out the rail, tar, and feathers.
Well geez, Al...you need to get to Burlington. They always look askance at me when I'm checking out the spinning or baitcasting stuff. It's all fly-guys here.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:50:14
I know, I've been trying for 3 years to get my mom some snow sneakers with velcro - those suckers fly out of the warehouse!
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 15:50:14
Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
but, but, but I can't always get the stuff I need from the catalog! *pouts*
:blink:
Right out of our playbook:
"We're a small store, so we don't always carry the entire product line. If you can get to Freeport (It's only 2 hours from Burlington), they always have the entire product line all the time. Otherwise, let me check online for you, we can always get everything through the catalog."
The only caveat...once something is sold out, they pull the listing from the website.
I know, I've been trying for 3 years to get my mom some snow sneakers with velcro - those suckers fly out of the warehouse!
Comment by BobR on 07/27/2010 16:00:36
Gas cost: (56 miles / round trip) * (1 Gal / 25 MPG) * ($2.75 / 1 Gal) = $6.16/round trip
Add the $4.00 in tolls and it costs $10.16 round trip to drive. Last time I checked it was about $7.75 round trip to ride the bus. I will be checking it again this afternoon to see what it's costing now for the Metro. After Aug 1, it will go up again, so I will need to recalc again.
There is also the wear & tear on the truck to consider and the maintenance costs that entails, plus the intangible wear and tear on my psyche from the drive. For less money and only an additional 15-30 minutes each way, I can relax and enjoy the ride.
BobR on 07/27/2010 16:00:36
Quote by Al from WV:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
I'm a bit perturbed this morning...I ran a cost/benefit analysis for riding the train next month...it's significantly cheaper for me to drive. I'd need gas to be about $6 a gallon in order to break even.
Sure, I want to do the right thing, but money in my pocket is more important right now.
It's pretty much even-steven for me, because I have $4 in tolls for the round trip. I need to recalc my Metro costs, since the fares went up a few weeks ago (and will go up again next week).
Regardless, I enjoy being able to read the paper instead of giving my feet a workout with the clutch and brake
I bet I could find you all the old roads to help avoid the tolls - might take a little longer though
The cost and time for me to take public transit doesn't pan out either - that's the one thing the sucks being a little farther out in the Xurbs
I'm sure you could find him all the old roads... Basically 7, left on 606, etc... Problem is, in my experience, at 2.50/gal, I saved enough gas on the toll road vs 7 to make up the toll and more. With the toll higher now.... not sure.
Gas cost: (56 miles / round trip) * (1 Gal / 25 MPG) * ($2.75 / 1 Gal) = $6.16/round trip
Add the $4.00 in tolls and it costs $10.16 round trip to drive. Last time I checked it was about $7.75 round trip to ride the bus. I will be checking it again this afternoon to see what it's costing now for the Metro. After Aug 1, it will go up again, so I will need to recalc again.
There is also the wear & tear on the truck to consider and the maintenance costs that entails, plus the intangible wear and tear on my psyche from the drive. For less money and only an additional 15-30 minutes each way, I can relax and enjoy the ride.
Comment by 
livingonli on 07/27/2010 16:04:55
livingonli on 07/27/2010 16:04:55
Good day folks. Was up late playing with the cat again. Even when I'm off I still end up going to bed late. At least I got to hear Momma's show.
Comment by TriSec on 07/27/2010 16:25:32
Well, try checking now..although it's early. Best time would be October. I'll remember to keep an eye out; as soon as I see the winter catalog in the break room, I'll let you know. (we get it about 3 weeks ahead of the public release.)
TriSec on 07/27/2010 16:25:32
Quote by wickedpam:
I know, I've been trying for 3 years to get my mom some snow sneakers with velcro - those suckers fly out of the warehouse!
Well, try checking now..although it's early. Best time would be October. I'll remember to keep an eye out; as soon as I see the winter catalog in the break room, I'll let you know. (we get it about 3 weeks ahead of the public release.)
Comment by TriSec on 07/27/2010 16:28:12
TriSec on 07/27/2010 16:28:12
Av Dorkery:
Happy Birthday wishes to the deHavilland Comet....first flight on this date in 1949. (Alas, first crash not too long aftewards.)
And the Ukraine airshow disaster was on this date in 2002....I won't link to anything, but footage is out there, and is not for the faint-hearted.
But most important of all...It's Bugs Bunny's birthday!
Happy Birthday wishes to the deHavilland Comet....first flight on this date in 1949. (Alas, first crash not too long aftewards.)
And the Ukraine airshow disaster was on this date in 2002....I won't link to anything, but footage is out there, and is not for the faint-hearted.
But most important of all...It's Bugs Bunny's birthday!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 16:34:57
Awesome! Thanks
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 16:34:57
Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam:
I know, I've been trying for 3 years to get my mom some snow sneakers with velcro - those suckers fly out of the warehouse!
Well, try checking now..although it's early. Best time would be October. I'll remember to keep an eye out; as soon as I see the winter catalog in the break room, I'll let you know. (we get it about 3 weeks ahead of the public release.)
Awesome! Thanks
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 16:35:44
But playing with a pet is good for your health, lowers your stress and all
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 16:35:44
Quote by livingonli:
Good day folks. Was up late playing with the cat again. Even when I'm off I still end up going to bed late. At least I got to hear Momma's show.
But playing with a pet is good for your health, lowers your stress and all
Comment by livingonli on 07/27/2010 16:39:24
Until you get another reminder in the mail of what a mess your financial situation is.
livingonli on 07/27/2010 16:39:24
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
Good day folks. Was up late playing with the cat again. Even when I'm off I still end up going to bed late. At least I got to hear Momma's show.
But playing with a pet is good for your health, lowers your stress and all
Until you get another reminder in the mail of what a mess your financial situation is.
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 16:40:59
Raine on 07/27/2010 16:40:59
From Mark Knoller on twitter:
Uhm... No shit?????
This is something that people seem to completely forget, that the President reviewed the entire afghan policy for a reason. I want us out of there -- but dammit, people are acting like this president didn't know this stuff.
Making 1st public statement on the leaked material, Obama said they spotight the same problems that led him to review US policy last fall.
Uhm... No shit?????
This is something that people seem to completely forget, that the President reviewed the entire afghan policy for a reason. I want us out of there -- but dammit, people are acting like this president didn't know this stuff.
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 16:43:15
Baby steps Liv. You are on the right path, and you have a kitty who is helping you along.
You really sound like you are doing much better than a year or so ago. Don't let a silly piece of paper bring you down. Baby steps forward.
Raine on 07/27/2010 16:43:15
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
Good day folks. Was up late playing with the cat again. Even when I'm off I still end up going to bed late. At least I got to hear Momma's show.
But playing with a pet is good for your health, lowers your stress and all
Until you get another reminder in the mail of what a mess your financial situation is.
You really sound like you are doing much better than a year or so ago. Don't let a silly piece of paper bring you down. Baby steps forward.
Comment by Al from WV on 07/27/2010 16:44:30
That is exactly the calculation that 90% of the people fail to make, well that a lot of them fail to make. Your last criterion is the most important, what does either do for you? For me, mine means freedom to go any direction after work, if/when the notion strikes me. That's for ME, however, it may not mean one whit to YOU (or any of the gazillion other YOUs out there). It's that personal freedom/liberty/responsibility thing, at it's core...
Quote by BobR:Quote by Al from WV:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
I'm a bit perturbed this morning...I ran a cost/benefit analysis for riding the train next month...it's significantly cheaper for me to drive. I'd need gas to be about $6 a gallon in order to break even.
Sure, I want to do the right thing, but money in my pocket is more important right now.
It's pretty much even-steven for me, because I have $4 in tolls for the round trip. I need to recalc my Metro costs, since the fares went up a few weeks ago (and will go up again next week).
Regardless, I enjoy being able to read the paper instead of giving my feet a workout with the clutch and brake
I bet I could find you all the old roads to help avoid the tolls - might take a little longer though
The cost and time for me to take public transit doesn't pan out either - that's the one thing the sucks being a little farther out in the Xurbs
I'm sure you could find him all the old roads... Basically 7, left on 606, etc... Problem is, in my experience, at 2.50/gal, I saved enough gas on the toll road vs 7 to make up the toll and more. With the toll higher now.... not sure.
Gas cost: (56 miles / round trip) * (1 Gal / 25 MPG) * ($2.75 / 1 Gal) = $6.16/round trip
Add the $4.00 in tolls and it costs $10.16 round trip to drive. Last time I checked it was about $7.75 round trip to ride the bus. I will be checking it again this afternoon to see what it's costing now for the Metro. After Aug 1, it will go up again, so I will need to recalc again.
There is also the wear & tear on the truck to consider and the maintenance costs that entails, plus the intangible wear and tear on my psyche from the drive. For less money and only an additional 15-30 minutes each way, I can relax and enjoy the ride.
That is exactly the calculation that 90% of the people fail to make, well that a lot of them fail to make. Your last criterion is the most important, what does either do for you? For me, mine means freedom to go any direction after work, if/when the notion strikes me. That's for ME, however, it may not mean one whit to YOU (or any of the gazillion other YOUs out there). It's that personal freedom/liberty/responsibility thing, at it's core...
Comment by wickedpam on 07/27/2010 16:49:10
Exactly! That paper doesn't hold any power, you do. I agree you sound like you're in a better place then a year ago - build you lego empire one brick at a time
wickedpam on 07/27/2010 16:49:10
Quote by Raine:Baby steps Liv. You are on the right path, and you have a kitty who is helping you along.Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
Good day folks. Was up late playing with the cat again. Even when I'm off I still end up going to bed late. At least I got to hear Momma's show.
But playing with a pet is good for your health, lowers your stress and all
Until you get another reminder in the mail of what a mess your financial situation is.
You really sound like you are doing much better than a year or so ago. Don't let a silly piece of paper bring you down. Baby steps forward.
Exactly! That paper doesn't hold any power, you do. I agree you sound like you're in a better place then a year ago - build you lego empire one brick at a time
Comment by Al from WV on 07/27/2010 16:49:37
They would look at me the same way, too, then... I didn't mention the Orvis people's response when I said that I only occasionally fly fish, spin fishing most of the time, baitcasting a little. The $50 fly rod that I stumbled into at WalMart, with a spine accidentally where it should be, marked down to $15 will serve me just fine.
Oddly, I was put onto the WalMart deal by one of the instructors from your mothership store... chuckle...
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Al from WV:
I haven't been in Bean since my buddy who used to be a fly fishing instructor there left to be the Riverkeeper for the Shenandoah River. No worries here, and I won't be slipping over to the Orvis store, either. Walk in there with a hillbilly accent and they damn near want to put protective coveralls, boots, and gloves on you. Dare to mention that you only fly fish for smallmouth and they get out the rail, tar, and feathers.
Well geez, Al...you need to get to Burlington. They always look askance at me when I'm checking out the spinning or baitcasting stuff. It's all fly-guys here.
They would look at me the same way, too, then... I didn't mention the Orvis people's response when I said that I only occasionally fly fish, spin fishing most of the time, baitcasting a little. The $50 fly rod that I stumbled into at WalMart, with a spine accidentally where it should be, marked down to $15 will serve me just fine.
Oddly, I was put onto the WalMart deal by one of the instructors from your mothership store... chuckle...
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 16:55:28
Not to mention, that it's one less car on the road.
Raine on 07/27/2010 16:55:28
Quote by BobR:Quote by Al from WV:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
I'm a bit perturbed this morning...I ran a cost/benefit analysis for riding the train next month...it's significantly cheaper for me to drive. I'd need gas to be about $6 a gallon in order to break even.
Sure, I want to do the right thing, but money in my pocket is more important right now.
It's pretty much even-steven for me, because I have $4 in tolls for the round trip. I need to recalc my Metro costs, since the fares went up a few weeks ago (and will go up again next week).
Regardless, I enjoy being able to read the paper instead of giving my feet a workout with the clutch and brake
I bet I could find you all the old roads to help avoid the tolls - might take a little longer though
The cost and time for me to take public transit doesn't pan out either - that's the one thing the sucks being a little farther out in the Xurbs
I'm sure you could find him all the old roads... Basically 7, left on 606, etc... Problem is, in my experience, at 2.50/gal, I saved enough gas on the toll road vs 7 to make up the toll and more. With the toll higher now.... not sure.
Gas cost: (56 miles / round trip) * (1 Gal / 25 MPG) * ($2.75 / 1 Gal) = $6.16/round trip
Add the $4.00 in tolls and it costs $10.16 round trip to drive. Last time I checked it was about $7.75 round trip to ride the bus. I will be checking it again this afternoon to see what it's costing now for the Metro. After Aug 1, it will go up again, so I will need to recalc again.
There is also the wear & tear on the truck to consider and the maintenance costs that entails, plus the intangible wear and tear on my psyche from the drive. For less money and only an additional 15-30 minutes each way, I can relax and enjoy the ride.
Comment by TriSec on 07/27/2010 17:38:18
I kinda think that way. I love walking through parts of Boston in the summer...with the seabreeze, it's usually quite nice. Wear and tear on the car is secondary; I would only save money if I pulled off the plate and cancelled the insurance, I regard that as a fixed cost either way. Curiously, my ride inbound is only 10 minutes longer than driving...the time to walk to the station. Coming home is longer, though.
Well damn, it wasn't Charles Gould was it? He's always telling me to check out the gear at Wal-Mart. Better price than ours, and "just fine for a beginner".
TriSec on 07/27/2010 17:38:18
There is also the wear & tear on the truck to consider and the maintenance costs that entails, plus the intangible wear and tear on my psyche from the drive. For less money and only an additional 15-30 minutes each way, I can relax and enjoy the ride.
I kinda think that way. I love walking through parts of Boston in the summer...with the seabreeze, it's usually quite nice. Wear and tear on the car is secondary; I would only save money if I pulled off the plate and cancelled the insurance, I regard that as a fixed cost either way. Curiously, my ride inbound is only 10 minutes longer than driving...the time to walk to the station. Coming home is longer, though.
Oddly, I was put onto the WalMart deal by one of the instructors from your mothership store... chuckle...
Well damn, it wasn't Charles Gould was it? He's always telling me to check out the gear at Wal-Mart. Better price than ours, and "just fine for a beginner".
Comment by Al from WV on 07/27/2010 17:43:31
Chuckle... no, not Charles Gould... Tracy
Quote by TriSec:
There is also the wear & tear on the truck to consider and the maintenance costs that entails, plus the intangible wear and tear on my psyche from the drive. For less money and only an additional 15-30 minutes each way, I can relax and enjoy the ride.
I kinda think that way. I love walking through parts of Boston in the summer...with the seabreeze, it's usually quite nice. Wear and tear on the car is secondary; I would only save money if I pulled off the plate and cancelled the insurance, I regard that as a fixed cost either way. Curiously, my ride inbound is only 10 minutes longer than driving...the time to walk to the station. Coming home is longer, though.
Oddly, I was put onto the WalMart deal by one of the instructors from your mothership store... chuckle...
Well damn, it wasn't Charles Gould was it? He's always telling me to check out the gear at Wal-Mart. Better price than ours, and "just fine for a beginner".
Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/27/2010 18:53:59
Will in Chicago on 07/27/2010 18:53:59
Okay, I am back after errands.
If anyone is unregistered at UNN and wants to register there, you will have to sign up. I can PM administrators to approve you and move forward. (You can leave word for me here, at AAP, at the Randi Rhodes Message Board, or the Ed Schultz Show Message Boards. Or if you are a friend of Raine on Facebook, you can find me among her friends. I am currently using a Martian Manhunter picture as my Facebook picture.)
Some sad news from UNN. One of our members lost her cat after a long illness.
If anyone is unregistered at UNN and wants to register there, you will have to sign up. I can PM administrators to approve you and move forward. (You can leave word for me here, at AAP, at the Randi Rhodes Message Board, or the Ed Schultz Show Message Boards. Or if you are a friend of Raine on Facebook, you can find me among her friends. I am currently using a Martian Manhunter picture as my Facebook picture.)
Some sad news from UNN. One of our members lost her cat after a long illness.
Comment by BobR on 07/27/2010 20:16:22
It took me a few years to get out from under my financial yoke - but I did it (and I was damn close to filing bankruptcy). It won't happen over night. I still recommend a scheduled repayment plan like CCCS
BobR on 07/27/2010 20:16:22
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Baby steps Liv. You are on the right path, and you have a kitty who is helping you along.Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
Good day folks. Was up late playing with the cat again. Even when I'm off I still end up going to bed late. At least I got to hear Momma's show.
But playing with a pet is good for your health, lowers your stress and all
Until you get another reminder in the mail of what a mess your financial situation is.
You really sound like you are doing much better than a year or so ago. Don't let a silly piece of paper bring you down. Baby steps forward.
Exactly! That paper doesn't hold any power, you do. I agree you sound like you're in a better place then a year ago - build you lego empire one brick at a time
It took me a few years to get out from under my financial yoke - but I did it (and I was damn close to filing bankruptcy). It won't happen over night. I still recommend a scheduled repayment plan like CCCS
Comment by BobR on 07/27/2010 20:23:44
I will drive in if I know I have something to do at lunch or after work. That is nearly never the case. Sometimes I meet Raine at a Metro station in the city for dinner, which actually necessitates taking the Metro to work.
At the current rates, the Metro saves me about 10 bucks a week.
I include tires, brakes, oil changes, etc. as part of the cost of wear and tear. If I am driving it 200 miles less every week, that's that much less often that I have to perform that type of maintenance.
BobR on 07/27/2010 20:23:44
Quote by Al from WV:Quote by BobR:
Gas cost: (56 miles / round trip) * (1 Gal / 25 MPG) * ($2.75 / 1 Gal) = $6.16/round trip
Add the $4.00 in tolls and it costs $10.16 round trip to drive. Last time I checked it was about $7.75 round trip to ride the bus. I will be checking it again this afternoon to see what it's costing now for the Metro. After Aug 1, it will go up again, so I will need to recalc again.
There is also the wear & tear on the truck to consider and the maintenance costs that entails, plus the intangible wear and tear on my psyche from the drive. For less money and only an additional 15-30 minutes each way, I can relax and enjoy the ride.
That is exactly the calculation that 90% of the people fail to make, well that a lot of them fail to make. Your last criterion is the most important, what does either do for you? For me, mine means freedom to go any direction after work, if/when the notion strikes me. That's for ME, however, it may not mean one whit to YOU (or any of the gazillion other YOUs out there). It's that personal freedom/liberty/responsibility thing, at it's core...
I will drive in if I know I have something to do at lunch or after work. That is nearly never the case. Sometimes I meet Raine at a Metro station in the city for dinner, which actually necessitates taking the Metro to work.
At the current rates, the Metro saves me about 10 bucks a week.
Quote by TriSec:
Wear and tear on the car is secondary; I would only save money if I pulled off the plate and cancelled the insurance, I regard that as a fixed cost either way.
I include tires, brakes, oil changes, etc. as part of the cost of wear and tear. If I am driving it 200 miles less every week, that's that much less often that I have to perform that type of maintenance.
Comment by BobR on 07/27/2010 20:25:16
Yes, there's also the environmental "feel good" aspect to it.
BobR on 07/27/2010 20:25:16
Quote by Raine:Not to mention, that it's one less car on the road.Quote by BobR:
Gas cost: (56 miles / round trip) * (1 Gal / 25 MPG) * ($2.75 / 1 Gal) = $6.16/round trip
Add the $4.00 in tolls and it costs $10.16 round trip to drive. Last time I checked it was about $7.75 round trip to ride the bus. I will be checking it again this afternoon to see what it's costing now for the Metro. After Aug 1, it will go up again, so I will need to recalc again.
There is also the wear & tear on the truck to consider and the maintenance costs that entails, plus the intangible wear and tear on my psyche from the drive. For less money and only an additional 15-30 minutes each way, I can relax and enjoy the ride.
Yes, there's also the environmental "feel good" aspect to it.
Comment by Raine on 07/27/2010 21:29:25
Raine on 07/27/2010 21:29:25
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 07/27/2010 21:31:11
trojanrabbit on 07/27/2010 21:31:11
This is Chris Lavoie's fault.....
Yes, the B side is a mirror image, though this must be a later issue, my sister's copy even has the WB reversed.
Yes, the B side is a mirror image, though this must be a later issue, my sister's copy even has the WB reversed.
Comment by TriSec on 07/28/2010 01:31:16
TriSec on 07/28/2010 01:31:16
Well, I ordered my cables to connect the stereo (turntable) to the computer. I have the Audacity software all downloaded and ready to go...
Why, soon I'll be able to listen to my LPs again!
Why, soon I'll be able to listen to my LPs again!
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 07/28/2010 03:24:39
Evening all. (Or, whoever is left reading).
Ah yes, the forum got pulled for um..... well, there were rumors.
Anyway, I've been busy, busy, busy this past week and have neglected to get on the computer for almost everything. Sheesh, even my email box is almost full! And DAMNIT, I missed Al in WV.
Harrumph.
velveeta jones on 07/28/2010 03:24:39
Quote by BobR:
regarding the blog, I know you miss your outlet for certain things (Like the drones and Baghdad Bombs). Perhaps we can figure out something for the blog here for semi-permament ongoing entries...
Evening all. (Or, whoever is left reading).
Ah yes, the forum got pulled for um..... well, there were rumors.
Anyway, I've been busy, busy, busy this past week and have neglected to get on the computer for almost everything. Sheesh, even my email box is almost full! And DAMNIT, I missed Al in WV.
Harrumph.