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Just Drive, She Said
Author: BobR    Date: 01/16/2008 13:26:33

And then she told me "Just shut up
And keep your eyes on the road"
"And just drive," she said
- Stan Ridgway


As we continue to push mass transit as a big factor in our greenhouse gas equation, we fail to take into account our country's love of the automobile. It's not just that it's an expression of who we are - it's an expression of independence. It's the love of liberty (or the idea of liberty) that drives (sorry for the pun) our love for our cars. Since we will never be able to get rid of cars, we need to make them run as cleanly as possible. How do we make a perfect car?

First - let's start out with the current state of affairs. The most promising future seems to be the hybrid. It gets great gas mileage, and runs on gasoline - for which there is already an entrenched infrastructure for fuel distribution. What improvements can be made to this design?

One being considered by Toyota already is to use only the electric motor for the first 40 miles. This way no gasoline is used at all until the battery is discharged a certain amount. If this is combined with the ability to plug it in to recharge, it's possible the car would never burn gasoline at all for owners that have a shorter commute.

What other changes could be made to the hybrid? Two immediate changes come to mind:
  • Recharge Only: The gas engine should only be used to recharge the batteries, never to power the wheels directly. This is how diesel trains work.

  • Diesel gas: Speaking of diesel, those engines use less fuel then typical gasoline engines. That's why in most European cities, the vehicles are mostly diesel. Changing the gas engine to diesel would increase the mileage even more. They could even configured to run on biodiesel!

But what can we do to create the "perfect" car, and just how feasible is it? The goal should be "no petroleum used in the car at all". So:
  • Bio-plastics: All plastic parts in the car should be made from bio-plastics. These are plastics made from vegetable oil instead of petroleum. The technology is already there for some types of plastics.

  • Standardized power connectors: How long have we been using the cigarette lighter as a power source? It's stupid that this hasn't changed yet. The cigarette lighter was NOT designed to be used as a power plug, and as such, it does not do a very good job as one. Cars should also contain an AC power plug too.

  • Standardize devices to 12VDC: A little off track, but why can't all personal electronics standardize on 12VDC as an external power source? Most devices have these "wall wart" AC adapters that convert 110VAC to any number of AC/DC values. If they were all 12VDC, they could all just plug straight into the car power port described in the previous item. (credit to Douglas Adams..)

  • Car is 100% electric, no gas: The car should be powered by electricity only, with no petrol used at all

Whoa, wait a minute on that last one. How can we make that work when the country is so large and some people need (or want) to drive longer distances than can be accommodated on a single charge? The reason we are still using gasoline is that when we're on a road trip, we can pull into a gas station and refill in about 5 minutes.

A few months ago, I posted a story on our message board about a new technology that was being patented for a high-capacity capacitor. The short version, is that the capacitor stores electricity directly, rather than as an electro-chemical potential. If it can be made small enough, it could be used as a replacement for the battery in an electric car. An electric car company (Zenn Cars) thought it was promising enough to buy up the capacitor-developing company.

What may really push this battery replacement into reality is the fact that they recently got a contract to develop these for the military. This is sort of a "back-door" funding boost for the research needed to make these a reality. If the military wants this technology, it will happen. This may be one of those cases where the military pushes a technology that transcends to the civilian market.

Why are these capacitors the key? As mentioned before, one of the benefits of gasoline is that a car can be refilled in about 5 minutes. These ultra-capacitors can be recharged quickly as well. There are other power technologies that can be recharged quickly (like fuel cell, or biodiesel), but the problem is - there is no infracstructure in place for them.

Electricity, however is already there. Every gas station in the country already has electricity. All it would take would be to add some "electric pumps", with price meters, so the customer can be charged (sorry for the pun) and the station owner earn their keep. There's a company that's already planning to build charging stations, so everything is falling into place.

Imagine driving your electric car cross-country, and the charge is getting low. You pull into a "gas" station, recharge it in about 5 minutes, and continue on down the road.

This could happen within 5 years. No more gas-fueled cars.

Imagine...


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Comment by velveeta jones on 01/16/2008 13:39:08
Okay, I'll entertain......again. But I'm gonna have to start charging soon!





Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 13:47:00
Quote by velveeta jones: Okay, I'll entertain......again. But I'm gonna have to start charging soon!
I'll help you there!

Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 13:52:20




Rachel is making me Smaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhht!



Paul on with her right now about Michigan, and how the war and veteran's issues are being swept under the rug...something ridiculous like less than 5% of all news so far this year has been about the war, vs. 50% or better about the presidential elections...





Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 14:01:11
IT seems as tho the war has all but been forgotten, these days.



At least you would think that by watching ALL the candidates.



Looks like it will be a rough day on the market.

Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 14:02:20
Aaaand here's one of our offerings at AthenaCafe today:



Market Deli:

Hot Rachael on Marble Rye with Swiss Cheese, Spicy Mustard, and Fresh Cole Slaw Served with Potato Chips...



:thud:



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 14:07:46
I love the mac book AIR!







Comment by m-hadley on 01/16/2008 14:09:47
Mornin' Everybody,

I am spittin' mad this morning - not one question or mention in last night's debate from/about Natives in America. You'd think that in all that talk about yucca mountain nuke dump somebody would have mentioned the Western Shoshone on whose homeland the dump is located. I heard talk about absent African-American fathers, Hispanic workers, and even a few passing references to Asian-Americans, but not one mention of the original Americans. What's up with that???

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 14:10:40
:rofl: Don't Block the Shot!

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 14:13:30
Quote by m-hadley: Mornin' Everybody,

I am spittin' mad this morning - not one question or mention in last night's debate from/about Natives in America. You'd think that in all that talk about yucca mountain nuke dump somebody would have mentioned the Western Shoshone on whose homeland the dump is located. I heard talk about absent African-American fathers, Hispanic workers, and even a few passing references to Asian-Americans, but not one mention of the original Americans. What's up with that???
Not one question? That is ALMOST stunning.



ALMOST. I came home in time to see just the last half hour. I certainly hope Edwards had some more speaking time than the little that I saw.







Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 14:19:08
eew... Willards hair was mussed? That means someone ruffled that greasy magey head of goop?

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 14:20:26
Good morning everyone.



It must be nice to live in that little bubble like Bill-O does.

Comment by BobR on 01/16/2008 14:21:03
Sorry for the delay, but today's bloggie post is up.



FourFreedomsBlog apologizes for any inconvenience caused by the delay...



Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 14:23:49
Quote of the day:



No wonder Americans hate politics when, year in and year out, they hear politicians make promises that won't come true because they don't even mean them - campaign fantasies that win elections but don't get nations moving again.



Bill Clinton, Detroit Economic Club, August 21, 1992

42nd president of the United States (1946 - )





Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 14:25:11
mitt's bad hair day:



http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/475379/2/istockphoto_475379_bad_hair_day.jpg


Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 14:29:32
Mommy! Fix my hair!

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 14:29:56
:clap: BobR!







Comment by m-hadley on 01/16/2008 14:42:10
Sweet Jesus I Hate Chris Matthews who now has apparently transfered his man-crush to Hillary Clinton - No gender-bending there???

mfhadley



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 14:43:18
Momma it's not WHAT you say, it is what you are not saying. I am very very happy to hear that likes Edwards!!!

Comment by BobR on 01/16/2008 14:43:41
Quote by m-hadley: Sweet Jesus I Hate Chris Matthews who now has apparently transfered his man-crush to Hillary Clinton - No gender-bending there???

mfhadley



Was that over the top, or what? He was practically grovelling...

Comment by shelaghc on 01/16/2008 14:44:50
I wish I could listen today - I have so few days left to hear an actual radio with Steph and other progressive radio.



:::sigh:::::



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 14:45:20
Quote by m-hadley: Sweet Jesus I Hate Chris Matthews who now has apparently transfered his man-crush to Hillary Clinton - No gender-bending there???

mfhadley

I swear to god, last night I thought he was suddenly in love with her!



Personally I think Tweety's ego was a little crushed with all the sites out there accusing him of his mysogyny.



AND... did anyone else notice that KO and Tweey were put in thier own corners yesterday?



Comment by velveeta jones on 01/16/2008 14:46:08
CARS!! Velveeta like de cars!



I'll take a '68 Charger RT and '69 Shelby Mustang GT350 :drool:

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 14:46:29
Quote by shelaghc: I wish I could listen today - I have so few days left to hear an actual radio with Steph and other progressive radio.



:::sigh:::::



:hug:



What the countdown down to now ?

Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 14:47:36
:yawn:



Good morning.

The good news is my ex finally gave me back my router, so now I can listen to Momma on my home laptop while working on my office laptop. Yippy!



The bad news is I think I am losing heart. I am trying to talk to people about John Edwards and why he would be good for this country and how he is the only one who can restore the equilibrium that has been eroded since the Reaganomics.

The nod their heads and give me the obligatory "uh huhs" but when all is said and done they say "Yeah, but it will be historical to elect the 1st black president."

People will continue to vote against their own best interests this year because it's more important that they help "make history."







Bobber....nice blog. Isn't it amazing how the technology is there and, because of GeeDubya, it's being wasted. F*ckers.

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 14:48:18
BTW M-hadley, not sure if you saw this, but iffin you'd like, you can pick a personal emoticon for your posts by going up to manage emoticons, pick one that you like and save it!



(you can change them too!)





Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 14:50:26
This caller is gonna spin out of control.

Comment by shelaghc on 01/16/2008 14:51:23
My kitties and I will be heading out on January 23rd - I'll be able to listen via the car radio. I'll get them marginally settled, then head back with two seriously conservative friends on the 25th.



26th (a Saturday) is packing the truck, cleaning and final moving day. So the last time I'll be able to listen to anything progressive outside of Thom Hartmann on a radio until I can get someone to invest in real fair and balanced radio.



Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 14:51:55
Just read the blog post...after having recently watched "Who Killed the Electric Car", I'd say I'm squarely in the demographic.



I have a four mile commute, and I try to ride my bike whenever feasible. Everything I need in the city where I live is within a 5-mile radius of me, and my family lives within 20 miles of me.



There is no *real* need for me to own a gasoline-powered vehicle, but can I buy an alternate-fuel car? Certainly not in this Commonwealth...we can't buy a new diesel due to the pollution regulations. (but there is a loophole, I can buy a 'used' one out of state and then register it here.)





Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 14:52:24
But, why Stephanie? Why is Obama a "better candidate?" She never says.

Because he's a good speaker? Because it will prove that "America isn't racist?"

I just want people to tell me why he is the best choice.





Comment by BobR on 01/16/2008 14:52:33
Quote by Raine: BTW M-hadley, not sure if you saw this, but iffin you'd like, you can pick a personal emoticon for your posts by going up to manage emoticons, pick one that you like and save it!



(you can change them too!)





It's actually under the "Set User Options" button...

Comment by m-hadley on 01/16/2008 14:53:24
Excellent comment although delivered in a rather overwrought voice. The "don't ask, don't tell" policy does discriminate against gays and that is in direct violation of most colleges' anti-discrimination employment policies - an excellent point that none of the candidates mentioned last night - hrrrumph!!

Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 14:53:43
It's because they are scared of Dennis. He is the Jiminy Cricket and they don't want to hear it.



Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 14:55:04
George Bush looks people in the eye and seemed like a "nice guy" and he's done a real bang up job!



Comment by BobR on 01/16/2008 14:55:19
Quote by starling310: But, why Stephanie? Why is Obama a "better candidate?" She never says.

Because he's a good speaker? Because it will prove that "America isn't racist?"

I just want people to tell me why he is the best choice.





He gives a good speech anyway. He was a bit fumbly in the debates last night.

Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 14:59:18
Clinton and Obama are appealing to people's fears that they will be viewed as racist or mysogonist if they don't vote to make "history." I hear it in people's "reasons" every day and it's starting to make me nuts.



What's Obama's health care plan?

Hmm...I am not sure.....



What's Obama's feeling about Unions?

I don't know. But, he probably supports them.



etc



etc



etc



Comment by shelaghc on 01/16/2008 14:59:25
I swear to god - they deliberately put people who are cancelling services into a loop where they *can't* talk to anyone!

Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:01:24
Quote by shelaghc: I swear to god - they deliberately put people who are cancelling services into a loop where they *can't* talk to anyone!




Ha!



You're probably correct.



Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 15:01:52
Quote by m-hadley: Excellent comment although delivered in a rather overwrought voice. The "don't ask, don't tell" policy does discriminate against gays and that is in direct violation of most colleges' anti-discrimination employment policies - an excellent point that none of the candidates mentioned last night - hrrrumph!!


I remember when "don't ask, don't tell" was touted as a compromise when Bill initially promised to end the ban on gays in the military, but then it ended up having no effect as the brass would conduct witch hunts to weed out anyone suspected of being a homosexual. "Don't ask, don't tell" maintained the status quo of the outright ban.

Comment by m-hadley on 01/16/2008 15:02:33
How's this - not too original, but Raine already has the martini =)

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 15:05:37
Quote by m-hadley: How's this - not too original, but Raine already has the martini =)


Shh, don't tell wicked pam (aka Mala).

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:12:06
Quote by m-hadley: How's this - not too original, but Raine already has the martini =)
Why you may have a too!



be still my heart, does our Blograrian lurve the MArtini's too???



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:13:23
Quote by starling310: But, why Stephanie? Why is Obama a "better candidate?" She never says.

Because he's a good speaker? Because it will prove that "America isn't racist?"

I just want people to tell me why he is the best choice.



Excellent question! You know the newest spin I have been hearign this week is how similar the platforms are of Hillary and Obama.



So why is he different?











Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:14:51
PLEASE NOTE! I did some serious Cub reporting on the story yesterday!

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 15:15:27
Rudy needs a sacrifice to the gods of 9-11.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2008 15:17:34
Morning! :hug:

Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 15:19:24
Quote by Raine:
Quote by m-hadley: How's this - not too original, but Raine already has the martini =)
Why you may have a too!



be still my heart, does our Blograrian lurve the MArtini's too???







Hmm, m-hadley is new here and probably hasn't seen my recipe...



Which I decided too late to have one tonight with the Mythbusters, but it won't be made properly now.







Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:19:32
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: But, why Stephanie? Why is Obama a "better candidate?" She never says.

Because he's a good speaker? Because it will prove that "America isn't racist?"

I just want people to tell me why he is the best choice.



Excellent question! You know the newest spin I have been hearign this week is how similar the platforms are of Hillary and Obama.



So why is he different?









Oh my goodness. . . he's black.



I've said it before and I'll say it again, if that's the ONLY reason you can give me for why you'll vote for him, do some research and get back to me.







Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:20:18
Oh dear. is in a state again today.



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:22:15
oh, btw, Glad you got your router back.. and please do not lose



That is why we are here for each other!



Did I tell you I am going to see John on Saturday? HE is speaking right here in Atlanta! FREE!



Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:25:44
Quote by Raine: oh, btw, Glad you got your router back.. and please do not lose



That is why we are here for each other!



Did I tell you I am going to see John on Saturday? HE is speaking right here in Atlanta! FREE!





Awesome!

Tell him to start talking more about Corporatism and Economics! LOUDLY!



Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 15:26:23
Quote by starling310: Oh dear. is in a state again today.



Do you need a hug?

Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:26:29
That's not true that it didn't count. If Uncommitted votes get counted than we will have delegates that can go anywhere.



Comment by m-hadley on 01/16/2008 15:27:26
Raine,

I'd love to have your martini recipe - I'll exchange it for a killer Margarita recipe from my friend Jose - I lurve me some martinis! Am I a Blograrian? If I am, I love that too, youse guys are fun

Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2008 15:29:22
It's the media that started this controversy.

Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:32:22
Quote by wickedpam: It's the media that started this controversy.




It's also the CORPORATE media that is censoring the Edwards Campaign.



Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:32:38
Yes. I said CENSORING!



Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:35:18
I would absolutely believe it about GE.



Corporate Media.



Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:36:20
Neither of them will take a back seat to the other. . . 2 big Egos there.



Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:38:10
I'm sorry....have I burst the Blog Bubble?





Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2008 15:39:11
I actually prefre Tyra to Oprah

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:40:55
Quote by m-hadley: Raine,

I'd love to have your martini recipe - I'll exchange it for a killer Margarita recipe from my friend Jose - I lurve me some martinis! Am I a Blograrian? If I am, I love that too, youse guys are fun


The Raintini is very simple and DELISH!



Get stoli Vanilla, (or your fave vanilla wodka) count to 5 while pouring inshaker over ice. Add a splpach of Seltzer and shake. (The key to this is make sure you don't use too much seltzer... or it will explode, which was historically a good way to see how rough or soft you bartender is, if you are having them make one for you...:) )



Put three marichino cherries in a chilled glass, and if you'd like, a few drops of the juice... and pour!













Drink! Rinse! Repeat!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/martinisqueezebottle.jpg


Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:41:56
Mmmmm.....Raaaaintiiiiniiii

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:42:12
Quote by starling310: That's not true that it didn't count. If Uncommitted votes get counted than we will have delegates that can go anywhere.

I thought that all the delegates were stripped from Michigan?



Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2008 15:42:51
Yum! Raintini's!





Are we going to have them at the Spring/Summer meet up I hope

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:46:40
Quote by starling310: Mmmmm.....Raaaaintiiiiniiii


I have made it a personal mission to get pictures of everyoen one of the internet friends I meet in person to drink them and let me take pictures of them doing so!



:D



So far I have quite a portfolio!


Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:46:48
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: That's not true that it didn't count. If Uncommitted votes get counted than we will have delegates that can go anywhere.

I thought that all the delegates were stripped from Michigan?







There was talk that there is a chance they may be re-instated. In which case, the "uncommited" votes are given delegates, who can then put their support behind any of the candidates that they choose.



Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:47:49
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: Mmmmm.....Raaaaintiiiiniiii


I have made it a personal mission to get pictures of everyoen one of the internet friends I meet in person to drink them and let me take pictures of them doing so!



:D



So far I have quite a portfolio!




Oh! Well, I'll be there in 10 hours. . . start mixing a batch.

I'll bring my own glass.



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:48:06
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/IMG_1559.jpg




One of the latest victims! :P





Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:48:57
Make that 16 hours.

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:49:13
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: Mmmmm.....Raaaaintiiiiniiii


I have made it a personal mission to get pictures of everyoen one of the internet friends I meet in person to drink them and let me take pictures of them doing so!



:D



So far I have quite a portfolio!




Oh! Well, I'll be there in 10 hours. . . start mixing a batch.

I'll bring my own glass.

JUST show up! we have plenty of glasses.



I actually have a stainless steel MArtini glass... it is unbreakable!



Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 15:49:31
TriSec's Martini Recipe:



(note, Bobr and I have had multiple discussions regarding the merits of Gin vs. Vodka, with no resolution. Suffice to say, this will work with either distilled beverage.)



1. About a day before you want one, place your vodka in the freezer and the vermouth in the fridge. (vermouth will freeze.)

2. The morning you want to drink your martini, rinse a martini glass and place it in the freezer.

3. When you want your martini, retrieve the glass and swirl a bit of vermouth into the bottom. (it will freeze on contact.)

4. Place a single Goya "Queen" stuffed Spanish olive in the bottom of the glass

5. Fill with the syrupy, not-quite-frozen spirits to your desired level.

6. Put "Kind of Blue" on the stereo, sit back, and enjoy!



7. Repeat as needed.









And I also have a "scurvy-tini", so named because it is high in Vitamin C, and thus helps to ward off scurvy:



1 oz pineapple juice

1 oz orange juice

1 pineapple chunk

Vodka to suit



Pour all the liquid ingredients over ice in a cocktail shaker, let it rest for a few minutes to chill appropriately, shake just to combine well, pour into a martini glass and garnish with the pineapple chunk.







Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:50:45
Quote by starling310: I'm sorry....have I burst the Blog Bubble?



pe shaw. I was busy writing. Your muse has been noted, and I concur.



Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:51:18
Quote by TriSec:

2. The morning you want to drink your martini. . .








Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:52:40
I have had the Scurvy tini, it too -- ROCKS!



Now I must say, regarding the MArgarita, BobR has a pretty good recipe, MH, so I say... bring it on!

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:53:57
Quote by starling310:
Quote by TriSec:

2. The morning you want to drink your martini. . .






I caught that myself! God bless TriSec!



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:55:22
Caller regarding KO... he posted something very interesting over on Kos.



Mondo posted a link to it the other nite, I think it may have been monday... Let me see if I can find it. I will post the letter here.





Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 15:56:43
Hey... Now here is the thing, the caller is saying that he mother has been usd as part of his healthcare platform? Shouldn't Momma know this stuff???



Not trying to be mean or critical of her, but she has said over and over that she thinks he is te best candidate.

*sigh*

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 15:57:07
Quote by wickedpam: Yum! Raintini's!





Are we going to have them at the Spring/Summer meet up I hope


What is the latest word on this? I wanna go!

Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 15:58:23
Momma's not the only one Raine. . . I talk to people EVERY day who say the same thing. "He's the best choice." But, when pressed for why, they got nothin.



Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2008 16:01:04
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by wickedpam: Yum! Raintini's!





Are we going to have them at the Spring/Summer meet up I hope


What is the latest word on this? I wanna go!




Last I heard there was talk of a gathering after the Cherrey Blossom festival when all th crowds leave. Don't think actual dates have been discussed yet.



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 16:03:06
Keith on Kos.
I Hate To Interrupt, But...

by Keith Olbermann, Mon Jan 14, 2008 at 09:17:12 AM PST



Yeah, it’s me.

Hi.

Sure has taken me long enough. But, as you may know, I am the shy, retiring type: Hesitant to state an opinion in public and horrified to pass judgment or seem a scold.



And, yes, if I’m going to step out from the cool, comforting environs of the shadows, I’d rather spring forward to pimp the book or the newscast.

But, having now read a (mercifully few) claims here that I’m a) attacking Clinton, burying Edwards, and c) clobbering Obama, I feel the need to mention that I truly don’t have a preference. I am tilting in no direction, sending out no subliminal message, and thwarting no truth.

To report the NBC New Hampshire projection after the polls close there, is not to try to marginalize John Edwards. To run the entire Bill Clinton "fairy tale" sound bite complete with its Iraq vote context, is not to try to thwart Barack Obama. And to report that Dennis Kucinich has put a down payment on a New Hampshire recount is not to claim Hillary Clinton stole a primary.

I appreciate the fervor of each candidate’s supporters and I think I have some empathy based on my standing in the Frustrated-By-The-Obviousness-Of-Politics League. But can anybody reading messages into tea leaves in my newscast, when there isn’t even a teacup, please resume regular breathing patterns? To see in each of my reports an enemy or a spokesman sounds microscopically like – and I swallow hard and prepare for the prospect of some Kossacks to approach what passes for my castle with torches and pitchforks as I write this – Bill O’Reilly.




Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 16:03:54
Quote by starling310: Momma's not the only one Raine. . . I talk to people EVERY day who say the same thing. "He's the best choice." But, when pressed for why, they got nothin.



It seems like the same thing could be said about some Hillary supporters with some comments like it's time for a woman in the White House or nostalgia for Bill's Presidency.

Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 16:05:45
Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 16:08:04
I think we are waiting to see if the familia Tri Sec will still be coming to DC. I know that there was some talk of that happening durign a spring break!



This is good news about the radio there in DC< no Mala?

Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2008 16:08:32
I tuned out mental what did they say about 3WT

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 16:09:16
3WT can't have the greatest taste in shows when they carry Glenn Beck.

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 16:10:11
Quote by wickedpam: I tuned out mental what did they say about 3WT


They will be carrying the show live 10 AM-Noon starting Monday. Doesn't help you on the drive in though.

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 16:10:45
I like that!



I did not know hillary voted to ban the federally funded stem cells.



Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2008 16:11:48
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by wickedpam: I tuned out mental what did they say about 3WT


They will be carrying the show live 10 AM-Noon starting Monday. Doesn't help you on the drive in though.




10am? Show starts as 9am, Steph get her time zones wrong? Or are they just delaying the start.



Either way it's a step in the right direction.

Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 16:14:10
Toying with that, I see that Obama seems to be more pro-union than Edwards, and I also learned that he's a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (Same as John Kerry), so I'm a little less worried about his foreign-policy experience...





Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2008 16:14:10
I just checked there website - which of the 3WT stations are they using? Cause they have Neal Bortz on in that time slot starting monday. I bet they are pushing her to the Fredericksburg station with Randi.

Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 16:15:05
Oh, and the family TriSec is leaning towards a cabin in the woods near Lake Sunapee this summer instead of a big roadtrip...





Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 16:15:54
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by wickedpam: I tuned out mental what did they say about 3WT


They will be carrying the show live 10 AM-Noon starting Monday. Doesn't help you on the drive in though.




10am? Show starts as 9am, Steph get her time zones wrong? Or are they just delaying the start.



Either way it's a step in the right direction.




I guess they don't take the first hour unless they still have the evening repeat when there's no game on.



Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 16:16:56
How are you a Sci-Fi fan when you don't believe in science?

Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2008 16:17:22
On the site its because of Tony Kornheiser. HIs show doesn't end until 10am.

Comment by m-hadley on 01/16/2008 16:19:35
Jose's Killer Margaritas:

Two parts Jose Cuervo

One part freshly squeezed lime juice

One part Grand Marnier (or a generiuc Triple Sec - if you are on a budget)

Gently stirred in a pitcher then poured over a salt-rimmed glass with crushed ice - drink and enjoy (I recommend putting a little Gipsy Kings on the juke box)

:devilbanana:

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 16:20:22
I just want to know if wide stances and diapers go together?

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 16:20:59
HOLY CRAP!



The White House has acknowledged recycling its backup computer tapes of e-mail before October 2003, raising the possibility that many electronic messages — including those pertaining to the CIA leak case — have been taped over and are gone forever.



The disclosure came minutes before midnight Tuesday under a court-ordered deadline that forced the White House to reveal information it has previously refused to provide.



Among the e-mails that could be lost are messages swapped by any White House officials involved in discussions about leaking a CIA officer's identity to reporters.




This is an admission of breaking federal law!



Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 16:27:16
*doing*



Los Reyes???



Another fan out there?



We see them every time they come through Boston. Mrs. TriSec wanted to name our child "Canut" at one point.



:guitar:



Bamboleo!!!

Comment by BobR on 01/16/2008 16:31:42
Quote by m-hadley: Jose's Killer Margaritas:

Two parts Jose Cuervo

One part freshly squeezed lime juice

One part Grand Marnier (or a generiuc Triple Sec - if you are on a budget)

Gently stirred in a pitcher then poured over a salt-rimmed glass with crushed ice - drink and enjoy (I recommend putting a little Gipsy Kings on the juke box)

:devilbanana:




Sounds good. I will definitely have to try. Here's my recipe:



2 parts tequila (I like Jose Cuervo too!)

2 parts mix (see below)

1 part orange liquour (Grand Marnier or otherwise)

1 part OJ



Shake together with ice and pour (ice included) into a salt-rimmed glass.



Margarita Mix:

=========

Juice from 5 limes

Juice from 2 lemons

Juice from 1 orange

Dissolve 1 C sugar in water



Mix everything together and add water to make 2 quarts

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 16:35:07
Love the 40-year old Virgin drop.

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 16:39:11
So I think Later on today, I will have to start an official 4F cocktail recipe Blog!



What do you think?

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 16:42:57
I want a whole lot of lumps.



http://www.nonstick.com/wpics/rk_pete1.jpg


Comment by shelaghc on 01/16/2008 16:47:30
Is there a basic list of alcoholic beverages one would normally have on hand for entertaining?

I've generally just picked up things in the past that I drink, but if I'm going to be doing a lot of progressive meets in my new place, I might want to have a standard "bar."



Mind you, I'm just looking for the bare bones basic right now.



Currently on hand is: merlot, pinot grigiot, beer , frangelico, khalua (sp?), Amaretto and Irish cream. I need to pick up some Jameson's before I head out too....



Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 16:47:41
Quote by Raine: So I think Later on today, I will have to start an official 4F cocktail recipe Blog!



What do you think?




I'm in!!

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 16:51:49
Quote by shelaghc: Is there a basic list of alcoholic beverages one would normally have on hand for entertaining?

I've generally just picked up things in the past that I drink, but if I'm going to be doing a lot of progressive meets in my new place, I might want to have a standard "bar."



Mind you, I'm just looking for the bare bones basic right now.



Currently on hand is: merlot, pinot grigiot, beer , frangelico, khalua (sp?), Amaretto and Irish cream. I need to pick up some Jameson's before I head out too....

All good... I would also suggest Tanqueray, a basic gold Rum, and Smirnoff Vodka. They aren't super expensive, but they are good for the bar...



And btw, I will be by in about 10 hours after you get settled in! :P







Comment by shelaghc on 01/16/2008 16:52:58
Quote by livingonli: I want a whole lot of lumps.



http://www.nonstick.com/wpics/rk_pete1.jpg




I always felt bad for that poor lion.





Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 16:53:18
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Raine: So I think Later on today, I will have to start an official 4F cocktail recipe Blog!



What do you think?




I'm in!!


Will any of these beverages be tested in DC?

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 16:55:18
HEya Bush!

Comment by shelaghc on 01/16/2008 16:56:10
Quote by Raine:
Quote by shelaghc: Is there a basic list of alcoholic beverages one would normally have on hand for entertaining?

I've generally just picked up things in the past that I drink, but if I'm going to be doing a lot of progressive meets in my new place, I might want to have a standard "bar."



Mind you, I'm just looking for the bare bones basic right now.



Currently on hand is: merlot, pinot grigiot, beer , frangelico, khalua (sp?), Amaretto and Irish cream. I need to pick up some Jameson's before I head out too....

All good... I would also suggest Tanqueray, a basic gold Rum, and Smirnoff Vodka. They aren't super expensive, but they are good for the bar...



And btw, I will be by in about 10 hours after you get settled in! :P




What sorts of mixers should I have on hand?



And hey, I wouldn't mind having a 4F gathering. When I get my IRS refund, I'm hoping to get a 32" TV set. Not huge, but nice to have.



I have a lovely liberal DVD library along with a lot of goofy fannish stuff.

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 16:56:41
Whenever W and the King meet, there's such a warm display of holding hands and affection. Even more than W has with Pickles.

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 16:58:37
I finally watched the Ralph Wiggum for President episode late last night.

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 17:04:24
Quote by Raine:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/IMG_1559.jpg




One of the latest victims! :P





Do you have a shot of me with the Raintini? (I don't know if I want to see the picture of me asleep again).

Comment by shelaghc on 01/16/2008 17:24:04
Wow - did everyone vacate after Steph finished?





Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 17:27:51
POES head in... What is the name of the firm that Thom is talking about???

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 17:29:23
Quote by shelaghc: Wow - did everyone vacate after Steph finished?



I am still here. I was over at the board, Doing some research about the Cloned meat issue.



:rage: F*ckin Fred!



They say they can't label the meat!!!



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 17:30:46
Well hack Shelagh! you are going to be right close to DC by then! WE are, as Mala said, figuring it to be around or right after the Cherry blossom fest.



Mala, can I get a confirm on that?

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 17:35:36
LAURA WILL BE IN FOR THOM ON FRIDAY!!! yay!!!!







Comment by shelaghc on 01/16/2008 17:38:42
I'm *really* glad I went off the meat now. Every time I turn around I find another good reason to stay away from animal flesh.



Comment by shelaghc on 01/16/2008 17:42:59
Time to run some errands.



The chairs on the porch have been desecrated by squirrels over the past few months. (Hardly the way I would have expected them to respond to all the food I've left for them! Ingrates!) So I'm off to get some disinfectant and something to eliminate the smell of animal urine.



Oh joy.

Comment by BobR on 01/16/2008 17:54:17
Quote by Raine: All good... I would also suggest Tanqueray, a basic gold Rum, and Smirnoff Vodka. They aren't super expensive, but they are good for the bar...



And btw, I will be by in about 10 hours after you get settled in! :P







I'd include tequila too

Comment by BobR on 01/16/2008 17:56:45
Quote by shelaghc:



What sorts of mixers should I have on hand?



And hey, I wouldn't mind having a 4F gathering. When I get my IRS refund, I'm hoping to get a 32" TV set. Not huge, but nice to have.



I have a lovely liberal DVD library along with a lot of goofy fannish stuff.


Some sour mix, fruit juices (orange and pineapple), vermouth (for martinis), club soda, tonic water...



Also a couple fresh limes and olives (other things like pineapple chunks, marschino cherries and orange slices too, if ya want to get real fancy).

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 18:07:58
I'll be back later! Today is the 10$ all you can eat Sushi Lunch day!





Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 18:09:39
Quote by Raine: LAURA WILL BE IN FOR THOM ON FRIDAY!!! yay!!!!







Ooh! I can't wait. I miss her doing a live daily show. I will have to see if there is a blog at maggieboy's site or if they use the Thom Hartmann blog at airamerica.com

Comment by shelaghc on 01/16/2008 18:10:59
Quote by BobR:
Quote by shelaghc:



What sorts of mixers should I have on hand?



And hey, I wouldn't mind having a 4F gathering. When I get my IRS refund, I'm hoping to get a 32" TV set. Not huge, but nice to have.



I have a lovely liberal DVD library along with a lot of goofy fannish stuff.


Some sour mix, fruit juices (orange and pineapple), vermouth (for martinis), club soda, tonic water...



Also a couple fresh limes and olives (other things like pineapple chunks, marschino cherries and orange slices too, if ya want to get real fancy).




Merci!



[strike]What's a decent gin for that vermouth? Raine didn't include gin in her list.[/strike]

Never mind - I forgot what Tanqueray is!



Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2008 18:18:28
Quote by Raine: Well hack Shelagh! you are going to be right close to DC by then! WE are, as Mala said, figuring it to be around or right after the Cherry blossom fest.



Mala, can I get a confirm on that?








National Cherry Blossom Festival is March 29 - April 13



Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 18:20:19
Quote by shelaghc:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by shelaghc:



What sorts of mixers should I have on hand?



And hey, I wouldn't mind having a 4F gathering. When I get my IRS refund, I'm hoping to get a 32" TV set. Not huge, but nice to have.



I have a lovely liberal DVD library along with a lot of goofy fannish stuff.


Some sour mix, fruit juices (orange and pineapple), vermouth (for martinis), club soda, tonic water...



Also a couple fresh limes and olives (other things like pineapple chunks, marschino cherries and orange slices too, if ya want to get real fancy).




Merci!



[strike]What's a decent gin for that vermouth? Raine didn't include gin in her list.[/strike]

Never mind - I forgot what Tanqueray is!



Raine and gin don't get along too well and she has the drawing to prove it.

Comment by shelaghc on 01/16/2008 18:37:30
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine: Well hack Shelagh! you are going to be right close to DC by then! WE are, as Mala said, figuring it to be around or right after the Cherry blossom fest.



Mala, can I get a confirm on that?








National Cherry Blossom Festival is March 29 - April 13





Is this a gathering in the making? I think I'd be up for a DC visit by then. (I might have to rent a car though unless the train isn't too big a PITA.)



I've sort of missed being so far from that area. As much as they tout Chicago for being a hub, there are *so* many places that weren't driving distance from me. Personally, I'm looking forward to a nice long weekend in TO this summer - between eight and ten hours from Chicago, but only six from Pittsburgh!





Comment by shelaghc on 01/16/2008 18:46:35
I have a geek question:

I'm about to take my old computer to a recyclery. Should I do a format on the hard drives prior to doing so? I haven't used this computer regularly for about five years.



I also had a second hard drive installed many years ago. If I'm blanking out the drives completely, do I do that one first? And is there any way I can be assured that the deleted information won't be able to be restored?



Lastly, should I do format C from DOS or is it okay to do it from Windoze?



Many thanks! (Now I'm off!)



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 19:04:45
OOFDA! My belly is full!

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 19:05:18
So even Chimpy is getting into the blog game. The speechwriters will be handy for that.



Sorry George you can't right on the computer in crayon.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2008 19:08:35
Quote by shelaghc:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine: Well hack Shelagh! you are going to be right close to DC by then! WE are, as Mala said, figuring it to be around or right after the Cherry blossom fest.



Mala, can I get a confirm on that?








National Cherry Blossom Festival is March 29 - April 13





Is this a gathering in the making? I think I'd be up for a DC visit by then. (I might have to rent a car though unless the train isn't too big a PITA.)



I've sort of missed being so far from that area. As much as they tout Chicago for being a hub, there are *so* many places that weren't driving distance from me. Personally, I'm looking forward to a nice long weekend in TO this summer - between eight and ten hours from Chicago, but only six from Pittsburgh!







Amtrak is great for DC - you'd get out at Union Station then you can take the Metro to pretty much anywhere. If we use the same hotel as last time I think it's the yellow line that's only a couple of blocks away.



It's all still in the planning stages. :D



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 19:09:01
Quote by Raine: All good... I would also suggest Tanqueray, a basic gold Rum, and Smirnoff Vodka. They aren't super expensive, but they are good for the bar...



And btw, I will be by in about 10 hours after you get settled in! :P





;)



If you must have Gin... And yes, I do not gat along too well with the GIn!



:rofl:



Comment by wickedpam on 01/16/2008 19:10:44
Quote by shelaghc: I have a geek question:

I'm about to take my old computer to a recyclery. Should I do a format on the hard drives prior to doing so? I haven't used this computer regularly for about five years.



I also had a second hard drive installed many years ago. If I'm blanking out the drives completely, do I do that one first? And is there any way I can be assured that the deleted information won't be able to be restored?



Lastly, should I do format C from DOS or is it okay to do it from Windoze?



Many thanks! (Now I'm off!)





Not sure, I'm lucky enough to have someone who works for the FTA a couple of doors down from, I was able to get the scrubing software the government uses to clear off my old harddrives.



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 19:12:47
Quote by shelaghc: I have a geek question:

I'm about to take my old computer to a recyclery. Should I do a format on the hard drives prior to doing so? I haven't used this computer regularly for about five years.



I also had a second hard drive installed many years ago. If I'm blanking out the drives completely, do I do that one first? And is there any way I can be assured that the deleted information won't be able to be restored?



Lastly, should I do format C from DOS or is it okay to do it from Windoze?



Many thanks! (Now I'm off!)

I wish I could help, but my favourite Geek just left the house for a while. When he gets back to the blog, perhaps Bobber could help with that one.



Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 19:37:38
I've dialed up Mile's "Tutu" today on an actual, vintage cassette walkman.



(listening to more music these days...)



I had a thought. This was my first Miles album, back in the day when I was first getting into jazz. It's not a weak effort, but certainly not his best. It struck me when I was reading the liner notes...What if I had never liked it?



I do recall when I bought it...I had *heard* of Miles, but knew nothing about him, so I thought his most recent album would be a good place to start.



Fortunately, you know 'the rest of the story', and Kind of Blue is one of those 5 mythical albums I would take with me to that desert island...





Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 19:51:27
Huckabee: We used to Eat Fried Squirrels



:puke:



I am sure the South Carolinians must be so happy he compares himself to them....

Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 19:56:38
YAY! This caller on with Thom used my word: Restore.



That is why I like Edwards.

As I said earlier on da blog, Edwards will restore the Equilibrium of the class structure.

Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 20:00:38
Quote by Raine: Huckabee: We used to Eat Fried Squirrels



:puke:



I am sure the South Carolinians must be so happy he compares himself to them....






Way to play to those Southern, hick, mountain man stereotypes there! Sure not convincing this northern, Subaru-driving, wine-quaffing jazzman.



Huccubus.





Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 20:05:56
Off to the salt mine I go.

Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 20:14:52
Woo hoo! D.K. on with Randi at the bottom of the hour!

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 20:21:10




A huge Fundraising Push is on! Click here to donate to the Edwards campaign!

Giving through either link will get your donation added to the Friday total. You can get shirts, stickers, signs, etc at the store link - so why not advertise John's campaign while donating to the cause?



If you miss Friday's fund-raising drive still go and donate whenever you are able to - every dollar helps - and you can get nice merchandise for your $5-2300 donation!



THE FIRST $250 you ever give John will be matched by the government - so it's literally like having your donation doubled!



The Bush Era of Lies is coming to an end - we need a president who will be a REAL leader that will bring dignity once again to this great country - John will make a great president of the United States!



GO JOHN GO!






Edwards supporters are trying to raise 7 million dollars in one day! Be a part of it!

(And as a side note, please use the links to Johns site. I have been told that ActBlue does not match funds)



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 20:26:07
http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/41822/2002719841811572189_rs.jpg


Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 20:44:52
I am listening to Dennis right now.

He is making me change my mind about voting for him.



: ducks to avoid incoming bricks :



Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 20:46:38
He just said that he contact Howard Dead about his issue in Nevada and got no response.

None.



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 20:51:29
Quote by starling310: I am listening to Dennis right now.

He is making me change my mind about voting for him.



: ducks to avoid incoming bricks :

No bricks m'lady!



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 20:51:32
Quote by starling310: I am listening to Dennis right now.

He is making me change my mind about voting for him.



: ducks to avoid incoming bricks :

No bricks m'lady!



Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 20:58:34
I don't know...it's really a struggle; this decision.





Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 21:05:56
I am going to be one of those New Hampshire voters; still trying to decide while I stand at the voting booth.



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 21:19:17
It is snowing right now!



Serious for real snowing!

Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 21:20:58
It snows in Georgia?

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 21:22:06
In the end, the thing that I care about most is getting people to vote period.







Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 21:25:07
Are you insinuating that our good neighbors to the north are...



Flip-Floppers?????

Comment by TriSec on 01/16/2008 21:26:44
Quote by Raine: It is snowing right now!



Serious for real snowing!




Sonny? You can stop praying now.







Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 21:38:22
Regarding the Delegates in Michigan....



:star: I see that you may have been spot on. But the most interesting thing about this?

You see, in every presidential election in the last generation, going back to 1984, the primary race in either party has ended with an early knockout, and that knockout usually comes earlier each time. In the last two cycles, no candidate was able to run a viable campaign past Super Tuesday (Feb. 5 this year), and no one imagined anything different this time around. And so of course the eventual nominee, having clinched all the delegates that he or she needed so early in the process, would agree to seat delegates from Michigan and Florida, in the interest of party building and unity.



But it appears that Sen. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama are running neck-and-neck, with ex-Sen. John Edwards a solid and persistent third (and also picking up delegates, which is critical). Check out this detailed analysis of the Democratic race through Super Tuesday - it suggests that neither Obama nor Clinton will emerge with anything close to the 2,020 delegates now needed for the nomination.



What if the primary season ends and none of the candidates have enough votes for the nomination -- unless you seated the delegates from Michigan and Florida?



In fact, what ended up happening in Michigan tonight was a big mess. All of the candidates kept their promise not to campaign in the state. But Obama and Edwards actually withdrew from the ballot in Michigan, while Clinton did not. And so Clinton "won" Michigan with about 56 percent of the vote, as I write this, while 39 percent -- mainly the supporters of Obama and Edwards -- backed uncommitted delegates.










Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 21:48:14
Quote by TriSec: Are you insinuating that our good neighbors to the north are...



Flip-Floppers?????


yeah that is exactly what I said!!

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 21:49:29
Quote by starling310: It snows in Georgia?


Very rarely in the Atl.



IT is beautiful! We just went outside and let the snow fall on our faces!

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 21:55:34
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: It snows in Georgia?


Very rarely in the Atl.



IT is beautiful! We just went outside and let the snHaow fall on our faces!


Has the city shut down yet?

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/16/2008 22:00:18
I'm back.

We are hunkering down for a potential big snow storm. Sure looks like it. Today we got shelter trailers moved around the locations that will be hit hardest, in case we need to open shelters.

Meantime..........my wife has been finding some hysterical video's of Tom Cruise that he put out for Scientology. Did you know that Tom Cruise is crazy?



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 22:00:56
:lol: The city, i repeat... THE CITY IS STILL NOT SHUT DOWN!!!



But they are calling for freezing rain tonite.. so I expect a run on milk and eggs. :P

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 22:03:19
What about bread and toilet paper?

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 22:03:50
Funny the weather channel site is telling me that it is raining here...

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/16/2008 22:09:47
Quote by Raine: Funny the weather channel site is telling me that it is raining here...


I've been monitoring NOAA all day, you will get a bit of snow..........obviously.



Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 22:11:31
Quote by Raine: Funny the weather channel site is telling me that it is raining here...




If it's on the teevee it must be true.

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 22:12:00
Quote by Raine: Funny the weather channel site is telling me that it is raining here...


But what are they saying on The Weather Channel, there is an anchor change at 5 PM. So someone had to drive out in it.

Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 22:14:15
Ok...you all know that Randi has not been my favorite person lately, but somehow she is making the case for me for Kucinich.



Comment by BobR on 01/16/2008 22:21:30
Raine in the snow:



http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/BobR_69/HomeStuff/rainesnow2.jpg


Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 22:24:51
YAY! Snow and Raine.



Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 22:34:47
Quote by starling310: YAY! Snow and Raine.



It's a winning combination. :)

Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 22:39:40
Wow...you know what? I have totally been sucked into the "He can't win" theory about DK. I don't feel good about that. He is my vote. John Edwards is my intellectual, "Dennis can't win" vote.



Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 22:42:23
And, I just noticed Backwards Bush clock!!!

Comment by starling310 on 01/16/2008 22:51:55
I said "Joe Biden. Yes." to someone the other day. They looked at me like I was Tom Cruise.



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 22:57:09
Quote by velveeta jones:
Quote by Raine: Funny the weather channel site is telling me that it is raining here...


I've been monitoring NOAA all day, you will get a bit of snow..........obviously.

This is re is really rather awesome. The ground is coated with snow!My dad said that he saw on the weather channel that we could get 2 inches!



I dunna care. Right now it is awesome to see kids making little tiny snowballs.



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 22:58:42
What Randi is saying, I must say that I like is that she doesn't endorse anyone during the primaries.



and if that link that I provided earlier is true, we will have a real convention. The delagate votes are really the key and by the time this is all over, no one candidate will have enough to win the nomination. :D

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 22:59:59
I was thinking the one thing where Kucinich might have standing to sue. They did a late night rebroadcast of the debate on the Telemundo network which is over the air in many markets (including Las Vegas). So unless they told the Telemundo affiliate in Las Vegas to bump it (like it was pulled off the lcoal NBC affiliate there), then the Equal Time rule could still apply.

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 23:00:16
:star: you vote for who makes you happy.



Please note that DEnnis is still up there on les blog!

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/16/2008 23:01:55
Did I mention earlier that Tom Cruise seems a tad deranged? Gawker.com is under fire from scientologists for posting some video of Tom today........and it does NOT make Tom look good. The vids have already been purged from YouTube, and lawsuits from L. Ron have already been filed to Gawker.



Go here to watch - while you can: http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-supress

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 23:12:42
:rofl: the local news cast has it's *SEVERE WEATHER team* on the case!!!



They are acting like this is the storm of the century!







Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 23:17:30
The Final Score is still running the footage of Terrell Owens crying. :D

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 23:19:38
Going to watch the videos! I was hoping you would post a link.... :P

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 23:27:59
:wacko:

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/16/2008 23:30:36
Quote by Raine: the local news cast has it's *SEVERE WEATHER team* on the case!!!



They are acting like this is the storm of the century!







Good grief!

We should have snow in about 43 minutes or so. Time me.



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 23:36:42
OH



MAH



GAWD.



HE is batshite crazy!

Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 23:38:35
Quote by velveeta jones:
Quote by Raine: the local news cast has it's *SEVERE WEATHER team* on the case!!!



They are acting like this is the storm of the century!







Good grief!

We should have snow in about 43 minutes or so. Time me.

This is hysterical... people are now officially saying we have a lot of snow.



LOL ! there is maybe a quarter inch!



(tmeing you VJ)



I love that yuo monitor the NOAA



Comment by Raine on 01/16/2008 23:39:50
They are cancelling night school actiities like meeting and ptsa things... HOOhaw!

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 23:55:27
Quote by Raine: They are cancelling night school actiities like meeting and ptsa things... HOOhaw!


So it is true that all the ATL needs is a dusting and the city shuts down.

Comment by livingonli on 01/16/2008 23:57:28
Tonight my cable system is pre-empting C-SPAN 2 to show the Islander game on it. We have two overflow games tonight because of hockey.

Comment by shelaghc on 01/17/2008 00:48:21
This is painful.



A year and a half ago, I wound up through annoying circumstances, paying out almost $1000 for repairs (not all at once) on a car that only cost me $600. If the repairs had come all at once, I would have just bought another car. But after one thing, then another I'd already sunk enough money into it that it was easier on my wallet to just get the rest of the crap fixed.



It's happening again.



I was told on Tuesday I'd need a new set of tires just to be safe on the trip back to Pittsburgh next week - all four for $235 total. While there they told me I'd need an alignment. So I stopped someplace today. Not only does it need an alignment, the outer tie rods have to be replaced.

Price tag including the alignment? $315.



Hopefully that'll do it for a few months, but damn......





Comment by velveeta jones on 01/17/2008 01:06:15
WARNING: Do not turn on TLC channel, unless you want to see a man in India who has arms and legs like tree roots, with stuff growing out of his face as well.



YIKES.

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/17/2008 01:07:38
Quote by Raine: They are cancelling night school actiities like meeting and ptsa things... HOOhaw!


Oh, that's just sad............

Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 01:42:16
Nothing like when you have to fix the old car because you don't have money for a new one. That's when the sticker shock really gets you.

Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 02:09:08




American Idol!





Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 02:21:14
Quote by starling310:



American Idol!





Have they found the next Sanjaya or William Hung yet?

Comment by TriSec on 01/17/2008 02:21:21
*snort*



We picked up about 6 inches on Monday...they called school, we had a parking ban, and about 90% of Athena worked from home that day.



We're expecting another 4-6 come Friday, followed by rain. Gonna be yucky.



But I keep telling myself, every inch of snow we get this season is that much more water in the reservoir next summer....



2 inches of snow in Atlanta is major, but it probably won't make much difference for the water situation...



Comment by Mondobubba on 01/17/2008 02:24:10
Hello all the scene: the JCA fitness center. The players:



Mondo: The gym member

SuSu (I'm not makin' it up): The deputy manger person



Mondo: Two words digital cable. We need to have an alternative to the hair helmeted harpy of headline news and the serial mis-informer, Bill O'Rielly.

SuSu: (smiles) I don't like Nancy Grace either.

Discussion of why Nancy Grace is so awful



This leads me to the a nifty blog project, a collectively written poem about the horror that is Nancy Grace.



Here is the first line:



Oh hair helmeted harpy of Headline News....





Comment by velveeta jones on 01/17/2008 02:32:20
Quote by starling310:



American Idol!





Oh you are NOT?



I turned the stupid box off. I said to my better half, "why the hell do I pay for all these channels if NOTHING IS EVER ON". Damn!



Comment by Mondobubba on 01/17/2008 02:35:45
Quote by velveeta jones:
Quote by starling310:



American Idol!





Oh you are NOT?



I turned the stupid box off. I said to my better half, "why the hell do I pay for all these channels if NOTHING IS EVER ON". Damn!







hey Ms Jones, everbody's gotta have a guilty pleasure.

Comment by TriSec on 01/17/2008 02:38:06
Oooh! Fux Gnus Haiku Contest!





Of course, I already wrote my greatest Haiku some years ago now.



G thinks he can play

Syncopation and blue notes

He only blows goats.





Comment by Mondobubba on 01/17/2008 02:42:38
Quote by TriSec: Oooh! Fux Gnus Haiku Contest!





Of course, I already wrote my greatest Haiku some years ago now.



G thinks he can play

Syncopation and blue notes

He only blows goats.







:rofl:

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 03:23:00
Quote by starling310:



American Idol!





liberal confession.... I watch this round of AI only.



And now, we are going to watch the wore... YES, mondo... FINALLY we are!!!



:D

Comment by MMB on 01/17/2008 03:32:50
At the risk of being edited,banned,warned etc. Same facts different day. And some times I wonder about how people live in a world where they allow their own delusions to override the reality of truth. I guess DENIAL is a real sweet place.

Comment by shelaghc on 01/17/2008 03:46:01
Quote by livingonli: Nothing like when you have to fix the old car because you don't have money for a new one. That's when the sticker shock really gets you.




And here's the punchline - I was driving home at night from something and thought to myself "Maybe I should just junk this car before I leave and use public trans for awhile."



When I pulled into my parking place, the switch that turns off the headlights broke....



Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 04:07:37
The only problem for me is I don't work in the city so I need my car to get around. If my car died, I would be screwed.