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Is it Raining?
Author: Raine    Date: 01/17/2008 13:39:05

"I would Gladly Pay you Tuesday for a Hamburger Today" J. Wellington Wimpy

The Wealthy may be next in line in U.S. home crisis.
The next wave of problems will come from prime borrowers who bought too much house or borrowed too much against it," said Michael van Zalingen, director of home ownership services at Neighborhood Housing Services of Chicago. A "prime" borrower is one with good credit.

Real estate agents warn that some high-income borrowers have already been forced to sell or leave their homes and more will follow. Especially those who used their homes as ATMs, withdrawing cash via home equity loans.

"For those who utilized home equity loans for five to ten years to finance their lifestyle, the chickens are coming home to roost," said Chicago-based real estate agent Marki Lemons.

I beg to differ. These are not wealthy people as the title of this article states. These are upper middle class people, at best. Actually they really are middle class, living larger than they can.

When the Sub prime market bottomed out a few months ago, newspapers across the country, including our very own local paper, the AJC, were filled with reader comments saying that people who fall victim to these loans and lose their houses deserve what they get, many reasons were written but the basic idea was that they should not have spent money they didn't have or they didn't deserve a home if they had bad credit. The comments went even further with many people saying that the government should not do anything because so many people felt, as they sat back in their nice upper middle class swivel throne and wrote to the editors "I pay my bills on time, I have good credit, why should I bail them out?" "If you can't afford to pay, why buy a house?" or the best... "They should have known better." Typical republican thinking I thought, but I tried to see their POV. I tried. I couldn't.

Well now the market of those very people who sat in judgement of the Subprime loan victims are at the precipice. The middle class. No, these people are not wealthy. (Thom Hartmann has wonderful riffs on this issue a lot) They have extended credit lines that they now must repay... and they can't.

As recently as December 29th, the president was telling us we had a strong robust economy. NOW, with just barely a year left in his administration, He says he is going to tackle the issue. I almost wish he would leave well enough alone.
Top congressional Democrats are calling for tax rebates aimed at low- and middle-income workers, as well as more food stamps and home-heating aid for struggling families. They also want construction projects to create jobs and additional unemployment benefits, and transitional health care coverage for workers losing their jobs.

"For millions of families, the recession is already here," Kennedy said at the Joint Economic Committee hearing. "Our plan should be focused on average Americans facing tough times."

Bush's economic stimulus plan, expected to be unveiled in his State of the Union address on Jan. 28, likely will focus on making permanent his 2001 income tax cuts, which otherwise will expire by 2011.

Bush's desire to stimulate the economy is nothing more than 'Stay The Course'. At least he acknowledges there is a problem, only took him more than half his presidency to do so.

There comes a point when you can't borrow anymore hamburgers. America seems to be very nearing that point. We were told that the economy has been great, we were sold a bill of goods. We believed them when they said we were prosperous.
When we saw the rising costs of energy and food, we were told that it was just our imagination. That everything was fine. So why was it so hard to pay the bills this month? Where did the money go? It is all connected, I guess. I pray that we elect a president who can get us thru this terrible version of a great economy the republicans seem to think we have.

Trickle down economics is nothing more than telling someone it's raining while they piss on the back of the poor and middle class. I think it is raining.

F*cking Fred.

:peace: and
Raine

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Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 14:24:08
Anyone here?



Good..

Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 14:33:33
Excellent Blog Raine.



Well now the market of those very people who sat in judgement of the Subprime loan victims are at the precipice. The middle class. No, these people are not wealthy. (Thom Hartmann has wonderful riffs on this issue a lot) They have extended credit lines that they now must repay... and they can't.




I understand the nuance and ramifications of this situation, but all I can is good; maybe now something will get done to remedy this financial plague. Not that I would wish hardship on anyone, but it seems the powers that be take action only when it affects them, or their country club buddies.



Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 14:35:18
Quote by Raine: Anyone here?



Good..




OMG! :rofl:



That was awesome!



Looks like it's just you and me. . .

Comment by shelaghc on 01/17/2008 14:37:08
Good morning.

My car is disintegrating.....



Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 14:40:50
I Jim's "Rush..." It's like the Grinch; only more fat.



Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 14:42:14
Good morning!



I read that last night Shelagh! I hate when that happens!







Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 14:45:47
Quote by starling310: Excellent Blog Raine.



Well now the market of those very people who sat in judgement of the Subprime loan victims are at the precipice. The middle class. No, these people are not wealthy. (Thom Hartmann has wonderful riffs on this issue a lot) They have extended credit lines that they now must repay... and they can't.




I understand the nuance and ramifications of this situation, but all I can say is good; maybe now something will get done to remedy this financial plague. Not that I would wish hardship on anyone, but it seems the powers that be take action only when it affects them, or their country club buddies.

I know what you mean. My first thought was indded the same. Good, maybe now something will happen...



MAYBE. I hope. I pray.





Comment by wickedpam on 01/17/2008 14:53:20
Morning! :hug:

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 14:55:56


The numbers are not matching up... The NEw hampshire Recount so far.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/17/2008 14:57:53
Sounds like the Huckster only wants to control women to me

Comment by wickedpam on 01/17/2008 15:03:22
Oh wow the Wham-O guy died!

Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 15:04:52
Good morning all. :coffee2:



I listened to most of the first hour while still lying in bed.



I still wish someone would stick Rush with a pin to see what happens.



Headline News is mentioning that Atlanta got snow.

Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 15:06:14
And now. A story about an Elephant Seal. . . or, many elephant seals.





http://www.aad.gov.au/asset/images/352_ul-Elephant_seal_pup.jpg


:wub2:

Comment by TriSec on 01/17/2008 15:07:24
*gurgle*



Comment by m-hadley on 01/17/2008 15:09:51
Good Morning Everybody,

I am just getting back to my office after doing an hour on the ref desk - what a way to start the day - ugh ;(



I'm glad that Steph is replaying the Rush obnoxiousness - what an A**Hole!!!

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 15:10:34


eep. I missed this Rush comment. What a peice of mysoginystic smelling rascist stempile of drug filled bloated assface!

Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 15:11:32
Rush's bit was just really not funny. I think that's the worst part.



Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 15:12:27
Quote by Raine:

eep. I missed this Rush comment. What a peice of mysoginystic smelling rascist stempile of drug filled bloated assface!


You should have heard the asshat caller John from Amherst who called in to defend Rush.

Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 15:14:57
Okay...I get the FREEBIRD thing.....I am GenX!

Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 15:16:26
Dear Rush,



Please leave the comedy to the professionals.



Sincerely begging you,

Starling


Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 15:16:31
I think we have a small problem Barack...

From TPM:

Reagan Changed Direction Of Country In Way Bill Clinton Didn't

By Greg Sargent - January 16, 2008, 3:19PM

This is interesting -- Obama is turning up the volume of his argument with what he terms Clinton style "incremental" change, arguing that Ronald Reagan fundamentally changed the direction of America in a way Bill Clinton didn't.






Obama made his case in a sit-down interview with officials from the Reno Gazette-Journal...



For the full contest... here is the video:





Link to TPM.

================================



YOu know what? I would really prefer that NO democratic candidate EVER even beging to try to compare ANYTHING to RayGun.



The name to me is just evil. I understand what Obama is trying to say, but hell no... Don't use the RayGun!

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 15:18:22
:spew: They might lose Disrespect for you!

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 15:22:43
Quote by starling310: Okay...I get the FREEBIRD thing.....I am GenX!


But you are wise beyond your years.



:P

Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 15:25:32
Quote by Raine:
Quote by starling310: Okay...I get the FREEBIRD thing.....I am GenX!


But you are wise beyond your years.



:P




HA!



Speaking of the force, my coolest Christmas gift.

And the back says "Because the Force is with us."



Comment by wickedpam on 01/17/2008 15:27:32
Maybe they thought his head was up his ass? :shrug:

Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 15:29:00
Quote by wickedpam: Maybe they thought his head was up his ass? :shrug:


Like most Republicans.

Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 15:29:32
Quote by wickedpam: Maybe they thought his head was up his ass? :shrug:






Comment by wickedpam on 01/17/2008 15:34:26
Love the Clueless drop.

Comment by BobR on 01/17/2008 15:37:47
morning, folks... :coffee2:

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 15:38:04
South Carolina is going to be VERY interesting. I love the rumblings that the GOP is worried about a brokered convention...







Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 15:39:23
I read about this, and i think that the push to take this court will not happen, the clintons filed too late.







Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 15:40:04
There should not be a single person who can't vote because they have to work.



Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 15:42:59
BOTH mooks are for edwards!!!

Comment by wickedpam on 01/17/2008 15:44:11
What's the dude trying to say - I believe there are UFO's I mean they are called Unidentifed Flying Objects for a reason.

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 15:45:29
Quote by starling310: There should not be a single person who can't vote because they have to work.





So why are some people having issues with the fact that they are deciding to have caucus spots at casinos?



THIS IS WHERE THE PEOPLE WORK! And Las Vegas, sadly but true, does not shut down. I think this is a wonderful way to empower people to participate in the election process.



Comment by BobR on 01/17/2008 15:46:10
Quote by wickedpam: What's the dude trying to say - I believe there are UFO's I mean they are called Unidentifed Flying Objects for a reason.


That's what I keep trying to say. It's not the same thing as flying saucers.

Comment by shelaghc on 01/17/2008 15:46:15
I just realized I've been awake for over two hours and haven't even had my tea yet.



:-/



What a day.

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 15:47:19
Quote by wickedpam: What's the dude trying to say - I believe there are UFO's I mean they are called Unidentifed Flying Objects for a reason.
So logical, and yet, it makes sense!



I truly get tired of people talking out of their collective arses.



Comment by BobR on 01/17/2008 15:56:55
Today's awwwww moment:



http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20080117/2008_01_16t130334_450x301_us_usa_dogs.jpg


Comment by wickedpam on 01/17/2008 16:02:56
PUPPIES!

Comment by BobR on 01/17/2008 16:10:15
Did bulldog puppies break the blog? :huh:

Comment by wickedpam on 01/17/2008 16:15:21
OMG She is Tracy Flick!

Comment by wickedpam on 01/17/2008 16:16:00
Quote by BobR: Did bulldog puppies break the blog? :huh:




Bulldog puppies don't break anything! THey are all sweetness and light :D



Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 16:20:29
So when does the Stephanie Miller newscast gets its restraining order from the "church" of Scientology.

Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 16:22:05
The woman who sits next to me has taken up smoking again. . .

As a smoker, I still say the smell when she comes back to her desk makes me want to





Comment by BobR on 01/17/2008 16:34:11
Quote by starling310: The woman who sits next to me has taken up smoking again. . .

As a smoker, I still say the smell when she comes back to her desk makes me want to





There might be non-smokers there that say the same thing about you... ;)

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 16:36:05


Comment by shelaghc on 01/17/2008 16:37:33
Okay - yesterday I picked up about six bottles of hooch to take back to the 'burgh with me so I can have a modestly proper bar.



Most of them I don't drink at all, but it'll be nice to have them on hand.



Here's my alchy list:

Smirnoff

Frangelico

Amaretta

Irish Cream

Kahlua

Barcardi Gold

Tanqueray

Jameson's

Martini and Rossi sweet and dry vermouths

Godiva White Chocolate Liquor

Cabernet Sauvignon 2004

Champagne

Yellowtail Merlot

Pinot Grigiot

Trader Joe's 2007 Ale (three bottles - it's the kind that they use corks to seal and is only available at this time of year)

Trinity Beer (2 six packs)

Newcastle Ale (2 bottles)

McEwan's Ale (2 bottles)

Leinenkugel Red (3 bottles)



Non-alch mixers anywhere, so I'm holding off till I get to the new abode.



How'd I do?

Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 16:38:34
Ok...producerchris's "Swag Hag" was perfect. But, the icing on the cake is Jim's chuckle. It's almost a Chris Matthews "HA! Fair enough." But, he leaves out the 'fair enough.'





Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 16:39:25
Quote by BobR:
Quote by starling310: The woman who sits next to me has taken up smoking again. . .

As a smoker, I still say the smell when she comes back to her desk makes me want to





There might be non-smokers there that say the same thing about you... ;)




Negative. I don't smoke at work. And, I am very particular about where I go if I have been smoking. I typically smoke at home, or at the theater with other smokers....Mmmm....that's about it.



Comment by BobR on 01/17/2008 16:39:39
Quote by shelaghc: Okay - yesterday I picked up about six bottles of hooch to take back to the 'burgh with me so I can have a modestly proper bar.



Most of them I don't drink at all, but it'll be nice to have them on hand.



Here's my alchy list:

Smirnoff

Frangelico

Amaretta

Irish Cream

Kahlua

Barcardi Gold

Tanqueray

Jameson's

Martini and Rossi sweet and dry vermouths

Godiva White Chocolate Liquor

Cabernet Sauvignon 2004

Champagne

Yellowtail Merlot

Pinot Grigiot

Trader Joe's 2007 Ale (three bottles - it's the kind that they use corks to seal and is only available at this time of year)

Trinity Beer (2 six packs)

Newcastle Ale (2 bottles)

McEwan's Ale (2 bottles)

Leinenkugel Red (3 bottles)



Non-alch mixers anywhere, so I'm holding off till I get to the new abode.



How'd I do?


wow - can I get directions to your new place? :beer:

Comment by BobR on 01/17/2008 16:40:54
Quote by starling310:



Negative. I don't smoke at work. And, I am very particular about where I go if I have been smoking. I typically smoke at home, or at the theater with other smokers....Mmmm....that's about it.





Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 16:42:07
Fred can take a nap on the bus. {Fred_Gump}

Comment by shelaghc on 01/17/2008 16:45:50
Quote by BobR:
Quote by shelaghc: Okay - yesterday I picked up about six bottles of hooch to take back to the 'burgh with me so I can have a modestly proper bar.



Most of them I don't drink at all, but it'll be nice to have them on hand.



Here's my alchy list:

Smirnoff

Frangelico

Amaretta

Irish Cream

Kahlua

Barcardi Gold

Tanqueray

Jameson's

Martini and Rossi sweet and dry vermouths

Godiva White Chocolate Liquor

Cabernet Sauvignon 2004

Champagne

Yellowtail Merlot

Pinot Grigiot

Trader Joe's 2007 Ale (three bottles - it's the kind that they use corks to seal and is only available at this time of year)

Trinity Beer (2 six packs)

Newcastle Ale (2 bottles)

McEwan's Ale (2 bottles)

Leinenkugel Red (3 bottles)



Non-alch mixers anywhere, so I'm holding off till I get to the new abode.



How'd I do?


wow - can I get directions to your new place? :beer:




Heh - the Champagne is apparently a very good one but I'm not sure how long it can be "held," so to speak. I'd like to use it for a special occasion - like the appearance of true progressive radio in Pittsburgh.



And I've already said I'm up for a gathering! How far away are you?

Comment by wickedpam on 01/17/2008 16:50:58
Sadly I too have seen them.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/17/2008 16:52:37
Which Champagne is it?



I've had bottles for years, I suspect a bunch of them had turned to somekind of vinager by now.

Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 16:56:38
Mrs. Kucinich vs. the Republican wives.



Like that's even a contest.

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 17:08:29
Quote by shelaghc: Okay - yesterday I picked up about six bottles of hooch to take back to the 'burgh with me so I can have a modestly proper bar.



Most of them I don't drink at all, but it'll be nice to have them on hand.



Here's my alchy list:

Smirnoff

Frangelico

Amaretta

Irish Cream

Kahlua

Barcardi Gold

Tanqueray

Jameson's

Martini and Rossi sweet and dry vermouths

Godiva White Chocolate Liquor

Cabernet Sauvignon 2004

Champagne

Yellowtail Merlot

Pinot Grigiot

Trader Joe's 2007 Ale (three bottles - it's the kind that they use corks to seal and is only available at this time of year)

Trinity Beer (2 six packs)

Newcastle Ale (2 bottles)

McEwan's Ale (2 bottles)

Leinenkugel Red (3 bottles)



Non-alch mixers anywhere, so I'm holding off till I get to the new abode.



How'd I do?
WOW! Shelagh gets A+ for going above and beyond the call of duty!!



Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 17:09:13
Smart, British woman filling in for Thom. . . ears perk up!



Ah...Laura....Where ya been all my life?



Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 17:15:31
Quote by starling310: Smart, British woman filling in for Thom. . . ears perk up!



Ah...Laura....Where ya been all my life?




I LOVE LF!!!

I did not know she would be filling in today as well!

Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 17:16:30
Quote by Raine:



I LOVE LF!!!

I did not know she would be filling in today as well!




I didn't know she had a "partner!"

Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 17:18:09
Damn I missed the first segment.

Comment by BobR on 01/17/2008 17:18:42
Quote by shelaghc:



Heh - the Champagne is apparently a very good one but I'm not sure how long it can be "held," so to speak. I'd like to use it for a special occasion - like the appearance of true progressive radio in Pittsburgh.



And I've already said I'm up for a gathering! How far away are you?


Atlanta.



Realistically - I probably won't be anywhere near Pittsburg anytime in the near future (other than the DC meetup this spring).

Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 17:19:12
Well at least today we'll be spared any Ayn Rand wackos that Thom regularly debates.

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 17:32:51
Quote by starling310:
Quote by Raine:



I LOVE LF!!!

I did not know she would be filling in today as well!




I didn't know she had a "partner!"
Why yes, she does.



Comment by shelaghc on 01/17/2008 17:48:45
Quote by wickedpam: Which Champagne is it?



I've had bottles for years, I suspect a bunch of them had turned to somekind of vinager by now.




French champagne - Charles de Fere - Jean-Louis Brut.



Can't find a year on it.



Comment by wickedpam on 01/17/2008 18:21:21
Quote by shelaghc:
Quote by wickedpam: Which Champagne is it?



I've had bottles for years, I suspect a bunch of them had turned to somekind of vinager by now.




French champagne - Charles de Fere - Jean-Louis Brut.



Can't find a year on it.







Chales De Fere - should be a non-vintage (NV). I have to agree it's a good one.



Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 18:29:49
I am Obama-d out. I can't listen to anymore Obama talk.



:headshake:

Comment by TriSec on 01/17/2008 18:41:18
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/middle/0/1/7/1316710.jpg






Comment by starling310 on 01/17/2008 19:40:00
Miss Velma! Woo eeee....that is cool.





Comment by shelaghc on 01/17/2008 19:42:56
:::sniff:::



My cat sitter stopped by to say goodbye. She gave me a lovely bottle of Chardonney as a going away present.



:::sniff::::



One more thing for the bar and one more hail and farewell.

Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 20:10:35
Time for me to go head off to the saltmine.

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 21:14:34
Quote by shelaghc: :::sniff::: My cat sitter stopped by to say goodbye. She gave me a lovely bottle of Chardonney as a going away present. :::sniff:::: One more thing for the bar and one more hail and farewell.
:cry: That is so melencholy Shelagh! But remember for every door closed another one alwys opens... I am still so exited for you!

Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 21:20:45
What about those of us whose lives just seem stuck in a rut?

Comment by TriSec on 01/17/2008 21:33:36
Say, didja notice the Dow off another 300 points today? How much is that for the week so far?





Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 21:39:52
Quote by TriSec: Say, didja notice the Dow off another 300 points today? How much is that for the week so far?





Between 600 and 700 at least. I think it did go up one day.

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/17/2008 21:47:12
Velveeta is here. Have ya missed me?



Didn't notice I was gone? Damn.



Been doing disaster relief all day. Sleepy now.

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 21:48:05
So what... Randi is going after BIll Maher? I am not real fond of how he deals with his fans, prsonally... But I gotta say, WTF was Bill Maher doing on Leno?? :grumble:

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 21:49:40
Quote by velveeta jones: Velveeta is here. Have ya missed me? Didn't notice I was gone? Damn. Been doing disaster relief all day. Sleepy now.
Actually, I did. I am sorry for not saying so. I take it was a busy day, with the storm and all. Funny here in the ATL, the world didnot end... :P

Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 21:50:59
Quote by Raine:
Quote by velveeta jones: Velveeta is here. Have ya missed me?



Didn't notice I was gone? Damn.



Been doing disaster relief all day. Sleepy now.


Actually, I did. I am sorry for not saying so. I take it was a busy day, with the storm and all.



Funny here in the ATL, the world didnot end... :P


Hugs for everyone.

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 21:59:28
Quote by livingonli: What about those of us whose lives just seem stuck in a rut?
Liv, I have been telling you for years, once you take a chance, every thing will be ok! you gotta take a chance, shake it up, do something different. It ain't easy... I won't tell you it is.



I can't get you out of a rut, only you can, but I can promise you that when you take a leap, only good things will happen.



You have to let a door close sometimes for new ones to open.



:peace:





Comment by velveeta jones on 01/17/2008 22:11:03
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by velveeta jones: Velveeta is here. Have ya missed me?



Didn't notice I was gone? Damn.



Been doing disaster relief all day. Sleepy now.


Actually, I did. I am sorry for not saying so. I take it was a busy day, with the storm and all.



Funny here in the ATL, the world didnot end... :P


Hugs for everyone.




Hugs back at ya'll!



Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 22:24:02
BTW... regarding Linda Tripp (the Jonah goldbergh Momma ref... ) ... interesting story... She now goes by the name ... KAREN. She manages a store called Christmas sleigh... Link....


Linda Tripp: the woman who was everyone’s friend


I find Linda Tripp, 58, at the Christmas Sleigh, a year-round Christmas store that she runs with her husband in the twee town of Middleburg in affluent Virginia horse country, about an hour from Washington. At least, I think I find her. As I walk up the street I see a woman who looks like Linda Tripp entering the store. She disappears into a back room. I spend a few minutes admiring the pricey wooden German toys and traditional Austrian clothes. A stack of copies of a book about Christmas in the White House is prominently displayed.



Then she emerges from the back room. “Linda,” I say, going to introduce myself. She looks at me for a moment and then corrects me: “Karen.”



Linda Tripp, who had worked for and revered the first President Bush, was one of the few who stayed on to work for the Clinton Administration. She had an uncanny ability to turn up wherever scandal hit. She was possibly the last person to see Vince Foster, the Clinton lawyer who was found dead in what was officially suicide but has kept conspiracy theorists busy ever since. She was a colleague and sometime friend of Willey but later accused her, according to Willey, of taking her job and gossiped about Willey’s relationship with Clinton.



She moved to the Pentagon, where she befriended Lewinsky, who had been moved out of the White House by aides concerned about her relationship with the President. Tripp became the younger woman’s confidante as she agonised about what Clinton really thought of her.



Tripp has always maintained that she taped their phone calls because she feared that she was being pressured to say she would lie about Willey and Lewinsky in the event that she was ever subpoenaed. But it became clear that she was also out to get Clinton and manipulated the situation. She was in cahoots with Lucianne Goldberg, a literary agent with links to conservatives, and talked about a book deal. She led Lewinsky on to discuss Clinton while she was taping, she encouraged her to use a courier service to send her packages so that there would be a paper trail and she insisted that Lewinsky hold on to the famous blue Gap dress soiled with the President’s semen, which became crucial evidence that finally persuaded Clinton to admit to the affair.



Tripp volunteered to give evidence in the Paula Jones case and then went to Kenneth Starr, the independent prosecutor, triggering his probe of the President. She participated in an FBI sting operation in which she wore a wire to record her friend and then arranged to meet Lewinsky again so that agents could apprehend her.



She became a hate figure for many and was depicted as a villain of the piece. An odd twist was that she was one of the few players in the drama to be prosecuted, when she was charged with illegal wire tapping for secretly taping her calls with Lewinsky. The case was eventually dismissed. On the final day of the Clinton administration, she was dismissed from her job.



In the intervening years she has survived breast cancer and married her childhood sweetheart, a German architect, Dieter Rausch. Together they opened the Christmas Sleigh. She has had extensive plastic surgery.



I look at the woman who calls herself Karen and she looks back, her mouth twitching. She bears an uncanny resemblance to the pictures I have seen of Tripp, postplastic surgery. Could this be Linda’s sister? But her sister isn’t called Karen.



I explain who I am and that I had heard Linda owns the shop. “She does actually – with her husband,” says the woman who calls herself Karen. That must have been the husband I had glimpsed going into the back of the store earlier wearing lederhosen, just as he is pictured in the leaflet advertising the store.



But no, it cannot be him because, as Karen tells me when I ask if I can speak to them: “They are not here right now. They won’t be back until tomorrow.”



But you are here. You are her, I want to say. But then I remember what Linda Tripp told Monica when discussing what she would say if she was asked under oath about the affair with Clinton: “I would do almost anything for my kids, but I don’t think I would lie on the stand for them.” Linda Tripp would not pretend to be someone else when a reporter came in.



“She doesn’t speak to the press at all,” says the woman who calls herself Karen, but then adds: “I am told they are going to do one interview,” for the tenth anniversary. I wonder who told Karen. Linda?



“They have a lot of media requests,” she says and heads to the back of the shop. “You are welcome to not take any pictures.”



I thank her and remark to myself on the extraordinary coincidence of having two people in one small shop who both look exactly like Linda Tripp after she has had some work done.




WAYYYYYYY more at the link about ALL the other players in this sordid affiar that started ten years ago today.



The thing I want everyone to take away from this is ... ok, there are 2 things... ONE ) Linda is now Karen... (I used to use that name when guys I didn't really want to ever see again asked me... I Told them I was Karen Wassernam(e))



And 2) Expect a Linda Tripp Tell all Hillary Clinton in the next Year.



I bet a 6 pack on number 2, if anyone wants to take that bet.

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 22:26:08
A Black Woman? Uhm... I wish we still had Shirley Chism around!!!

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 23:27:21
Am I the only one listenign to Rach???

Comment by Raine on 01/17/2008 23:29:07
I kilt it with the linda tripp tawk.. :(



Rach is on fire tonite.

Comment by livingonli on 01/17/2008 23:39:58
Quote by Raine: I kilt it with the linda tripp tawk.. :(



Rach is on fire tonite.


I'm at work so no radio for me. I do have a St. John's game at 7.

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/18/2008 00:25:19
Quote by Raine: Am I the only one listenign to Rach???


Don't get her..............

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/18/2008 00:30:03
I am goofing on the computer while my wife tortures me with CSI.



Free Smiley Face Courtesy of www.FreeSmileys.org

Comment by Raine on 01/18/2008 00:37:41
Quote by velveeta jones:
Quote by Raine: Am I the only one listenign to Rach???
Don't get her..............
you know ... you could stream her.... We have the AAR link... Just saying... CSI? I pass no judgement. I love your wife. ;)

Comment by Raine on 01/18/2008 00:39:15
Quote by Raine:
Quote by velveeta jones:
Quote by Raine: Am I the only one listenign to Rach???
Don't get her..............
you know ... you could stream her.... We have the AAR link... Just saying... CSI? I pass no judgement. I love your wife. ;)
And I say that becuase I love the relationship tha tyou 2 have!

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/18/2008 00:41:33
Oh Raine darling..........how long have you been in a relationship. tsk, tsk silly bunny.

See, if I put headphones on to listen to the stream, then I can't hear her when she has something "important" to tell me..........then I get THE LOOK!!



But, I do love her as well.





Comment by velveeta jones on 01/18/2008 01:34:19
Due to extreme boredom, Velveeta now has a Facebook thingy..........whatever that is! Using my real name. But I have Zero friends. :sniff:





Comment by velveeta jones on 01/18/2008 01:51:47
Hello?



At least my lovely turned to KO at 8!





Glenn Beck is an asshat.

Ditto Huckabee.

Ditto Romney aka Wink Martindale.

Comment by TriSec on 01/18/2008 02:28:33
*grunt*



Whale of a day.



We've got a new Athenista; I'm going to be in training with him for the better part of the next two weeks.



Damn, I hate when work intrudes on my blogging...



:kickcan:



Comment by livingonli on 01/18/2008 02:48:02
Quote by TriSec: *grunt*



Whale of a day.



We've got a new Athenista; I'm going to be in training with him for the better part of the next two weeks.



Damn, I hate when work intrudes on my blogging...



:kickcan:



I feel your pain. I hate when work interferes with any attempt for me to have a life.

Comment by TriSec on 01/18/2008 02:52:45
Discussion of an ER bill over at UNN



Worth checking out...especially if you're un- or under-insured...





Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2008 03:08:19
evening all. I heard a Republican tool on the public radio mosheen in a discussion of the horrendous property tax amendment on the primary ballot here utter a phrase I dispise with the white hot intensity of 1000 suns going super nova: "it is still the tax payers money."



NO YOU ASS it is not. When money is transfered from one party another for whatever reason, it ceases to be YOUR MONEY! :rage:

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/18/2008 03:10:43
Quote by velveeta jones: Oh Raine darling..........how long have you been in a relationship. tsk, tsk silly bunny.

See, if I put headphones on to listen to the stream, then I can't hear her when she has something "important" to tell me..........then I get THE LOOK!!



But, I do love her as well.









:rofl:I've gotten "THE LOOK" more that one time in my life.