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Done. Next? Shut it down!
Author: Raine    Date: 12/17/2010 13:47:03

By now you've heard that the tax bill has passed in the house, and is on it's way to the President's desk. It's done, now we see if this rather unpleasant medicine will work for America.

Next up we have DADT, DREAM, Start Treaty and the Omnibus Bill. The Omnibus bill, is designed to fund the government thru September. From Jamie Dupree of the AJC:
Two days after unveiling a 1,924 page earmark-filled Omnibus Budget plan, Democrats last night pulled the plug on the massive budget bill, sparking an hour of bitter exchanges on the Senate floor.

What most people probably don't realize is that the Omnibus bill was the product of months of negotiations between Democrats and Republicans on the Senate Appropriations Committee, all of which had the backing of Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Instead, it was pulled off the floor after GOP outcries over earmarks. Think Progress reports:
Overall, Republican Senators have gotten nearly $2 billion in earmarks into the omnibus, and yet because of concerns over “wasteful spending,” they are threatening to block the entire bill — which contains not only funding for their own projects, but the money the federal government needs to operate past this weekend.
You read that correctly : This weekend.
Democrats in Congress prepared on Thursday for a high-stakes game of chicken over spending as they moved toward a weekend vote that, if it fails, could lead to a shutdown of wide swaths of the U.S. government.

With current funding due to expire at midnight on Saturday, Democrats set aside tentative plans to keep the government running if they do not pass a permanent spending bill by then.
That could mean the government shut down they keep promising. As Mr. Dupree wrote in the link above:
So, instead of a funding bill that would keep the government running through the end of the current fiscal year, Congress will likely approve a short-term extension into February or March.

That was favored by Republicans, because it will allow them to start cutting federal budgets right away, not in the following fiscal year.

Only time will tell if the GOP will be able to get cuts both through the House, through the Senate, and signed into law.
Regarding earmarks,I'll not go into the hypocrisy of what the GOP senators are doing as it is well documented here, here, here, and here. BobR wrote a wonderful blog about this very issue.
Earmarks are essentially the directing of funds already allocated in the budget to specific projects. If the earmarked money isn't spent on the earmark, it will be spent on something else, because it's already in the budget. The earmark gives a congressperson more control over how that already allocated money is spent. It actually gives power back to the states via the Congressperson that the state voted to represent them.

Of course, that hasn't stopped politicians like Jim DeMint (R-SC) from grandstanding on the issue and trying to ban them. It may resonate well with voters who are under the mistaken impression that it will save money and reign in government spending, but it is actually self-defeating for the Congress.
The GOP in it's protestation is actually giving more power to spend that money to the executive branch. In other words: the President gets to spend that money.

What I would like people to realize is how devastating a government shut down would be.
Rather than simply speculate whether Paul is correct or not, we have a recent historical occurrence to look to for guidance: the federal government shutdown of 1995. During the nearly four-week shutdown, Social Security checks were not mailed, nor were Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements sent out. All non-essential government employees were sent home without pay. And according to a Center for American Progress report entitled “The Big Freeze”, the entire ordeal “cost the American taxpayer over $800 million and rattled the confidence of international investors in U.S. government bonds.”
800 million dollars in 1985 is a lot different than it's equivalent in todays monetary values. The economy is far worse now than it was then as well. So while folks like Ron Paul say this won't really hurt, I wonder if he would be willing to tell Grandma why her social Security check isn't coming this month. I'm really tired of the GOP obstructionism, as it always seems to hurt the people who need the help most. We got unemployment extensions for millions of people, but it looks like social security and medicaid and medicare will be the next to withheld by the GOP.

Let's hope we can still get DADT, START and the DREAM act passed. Those are very important, but so is funding the Government. It effects federal employees all over the country. It funds infrastructure and state projects that also help the economy. Lot's to do in the coming week, today should be an interesting day.

and
Raine
 

78 comments (Latest Comment: 12/17/2010 20:27:20 by livingonli)
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Comment by TriSec on 12/17/2010 14:03:41
Oh, man. I hate when that happens!

(side note....Firefox? I've had a *lot* of problems with that browser and this blog. Methinks they don't like each other much.)



Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 14:04:01
I noticed something popped up in the "Latest Entries" section for a couple of seconds. But when I clicked on it, it was gone. *poof*

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:05:03
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, man. I hate when that happens!

(side note....Firefox? I've had a *lot* of problems with that browser and this blog. Methinks they don't like each other much.)



I on the other hand have had nary a one with das blog and the mighty Firefox.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:09:46
"Back door stimulus" sounds kinda dirty to me.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/17/2010 14:17:25
Morning

Office pot luck today, our conference room is off limits until noon!

I made haystack - choclate chips, butterscotch chips, chow mein noodles and cashews, some how it all works to a rich cookies/candy thing

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:17:48
Ben Stein, how nice. You know why he is awful? Not because he is right wing dickweed, no. Because he is right wing dickweed who is a Nixon apologist.

Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 14:19:35
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, man. I hate when that happens!

(side note....Firefox? I've had a *lot* of problems with that browser and this blog. Methinks they don't like each other much.)

yeah I am pretty pissed. It was Chocka full of Omnibus Fun facts and the impending GOP shut down of the Government.

I can't go back and rewrite the thing.


Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 14:20:15
Quote by trojanrabbit:
I noticed something popped up in the "Latest Entries" section for a couple of seconds. But when I clicked on it, it was gone. *poof*

I am hoping it is sitting in the Database.

Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 14:22:37
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, man. I hate when that happens!

(side note....Firefox? I've had a *lot* of problems with that browser and this blog. Methinks they don't like each other much.)



I on the other hand have had nary a one with das blog and the mighty Firefox.

I think there is something buggy with the updated software.



Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 14:22:57
and GOOD MORNING!!!

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:24:31
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, man. I hate when that happens!

(side note....Firefox? I've had a *lot* of problems with that browser and this blog. Methinks they don't like each other much.)

yeah I am pretty pissed. It was Chocka full of Omnibus Fun facts and the impending GOP shut down of the Government.

I can't go back and rewrite the thing.


Yeah that government shut down worked so well for them in 1996.

Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 14:24:43
WE have found the MISSING BLOG!!!!!!!!

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:28:11
Wow, Mama's new phone screener doesn't sound like she likes her job much. Denied I was! This would have never happened with the mighty Rebeka handling the duties.

Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 14:33:01
Quote by Mondobubba:
Wow, Mama's new phone screener doesn't sound like she likes her job much. Denied I was! This would have never happened with the mighty Rebeka handling the duties.
Really?

She is filling in for Rebekah for a while.


Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 14:33:34
Ah HA! There it be!

Comment by BobR on 12/17/2010 14:33:55
What is happening is the "don't display before" date gets set to some value in the future when you edit a blog already posted. That essentially hides it because the blog software thinks you don't want to display it yet.

So - the feature is buggy, and I will need to fix it this weekend.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:34:30
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Wow, Mama's new phone screener doesn't sound like she likes her job much. Denied I was! This would have never happened with the mighty Rebeka handling the duties.
Really?

She is filling in for Rebekah for a while.


There's an echo, no call for you! :click:

Comment by wickedpam on 12/17/2010 14:38:13
Well, I had a great commute the last time we had a shut down - you never realize how many gov't workers drive on the local roads around here until the gov't is closed for holiday, weather or shut down.

I'll have to ask a friend of mine how it will effect them - his wife works at the patent office

Comment by wickedpam on 12/17/2010 14:39:31
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Wow, Mama's new phone screener doesn't sound like she likes her job much. Denied I was! This would have never happened with the mighty Rebeka handling the duties.
Really?

She is filling in for Rebekah for a while.


There's an echo, no call for you! :click:



tweet or FB a message to Chris then try calling again - maybe that'll open the door.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 14:41:15
Somehow, part of me dreams that Obama takes the pen and puts a little signing statement on that tax bill. Just like the previous pResident did so many times. Something like letting the cuts expire over ONE MILLION DOLLARS. He can have Chevy Chase standing there beside him in a shark costume with a frikkin' laser beam attached to his head.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 14:43:56
I've loaded the iPod with holiday tunes, and just letting the podcasts back up. Don't know when I'll start listening to those again.

So...here...heard this many times but never saw the video before.



Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:44:58
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Wow, Mama's new phone screener doesn't sound like she likes her job much. Denied I was! This would have never happened with the mighty Rebeka handling the duties.
Really?

She is filling in for Rebekah for a while.


There's an echo, no call for you! :click:



tweet or FB a message to Chris then try calling again - maybe that'll open the door.


Alas the moment has passed.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:59:22
John the RWLM is not making a lick of sense. This is one the most incoherent rants I've heard in long time.

Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:02:41
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Somehow, part of me dreams that Obama takes the pen and puts a little signing statement on that tax bill. Just like the previous pResident did so many times. Something like letting the cuts expire over ONE MILLION DOLLARS. He can have Chevy Chase standing there beside him in a shark costume with a frikkin' laser beam attached to his head.
oh -- I wish he could as well.




Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:06:43
Quote by trojanrabbit:
I've loaded the iPod with holiday tunes, and just letting the podcasts back up. Don't know when I'll start listening to those again.

So...here...heard this many times but never saw the video before.

I have NEVER heard that before!

That was great!


Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:07:30
Quote by Mondobubba:
John the RWLM is not making a lick of sense. This is one the most incoherent rants I've heard in long time.
I'm starting to tune these knuckleheads out like the Sassy commercials.


Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:13:24
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
John the RWLM is not making a lick of sense. This is one the most incoherent rants I've heard in long time.
I'm starting to tune these knuckleheads out like the Sassy commercials.


Since I only get to listen once a week I don't have that ability.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/17/2010 15:14:12
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
John the RWLM is not making a lick of sense. This is one the most incoherent rants I've heard in long time.
I'm starting to tune these knuckleheads out like the Sassy commercials.



any new Sassy commericals? No Christmas harhness from the judgemental canine?

Comment by wickedpam on 12/17/2010 15:24:35
MGM skit

Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:25:26
John McCain is a dickweed.

Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:25:50
MGM!!!!

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:27:34
What enemy Savage? WTF? Jesus that was totally crazy.

Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:31:38
Well Mondo -- I think you have an answer regarding Miranda: she's having a bad day.

Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:33:22
Quote by Mondobubba:
What enemy Savage? WTF? Jesus that was totally crazy.
Propagandists often are just feeding the crazies.

In Savages case, well -- That was so friggin stupid it made him look emotionally unstable.




Comment by livingonli on 12/17/2010 15:34:31
Good morning all.

Mondo, at least let Chris know the screener wouldn't let you on.. You would think Mondo from Jacksonville had an automatic pass considering the number of times you've called.

Comment by livingonli on 12/17/2010 15:36:22
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
What enemy Savage? WTF? Jesus that was totally crazy.
Propagandists often are just feeding the crazies.

In Savages case, well -- That was so friggin stupid it made him look emotionally unstable.



I don't know how people in this country follow that crap. They all sound so stupid and insane. That may indicate that those traits are prevalent in the American right these days.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:38:58
Quote by Raine:
Well Mondo -- I think you have an answer regarding Miranda: she's having a bad day.


Did I miss something?

Comment by TriSec on 12/17/2010 15:40:21
http://www.tomorrowland.us/images/first-flight.gif


Happy Birthday!


Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 15:45:58
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
What enemy Savage? WTF? Jesus that was totally crazy.
Propagandists often are just feeding the crazies.

In Savages case, well -- That was so friggin stupid it made him look emotionally unstable.




The Boner looks emotionally unstable, now McChinless is using that tactic....hmmmm.


Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:47:59
Quote by TriSec:
http://www.tomorrowland.us/images/first-flight.gif


Happy Birthday!


I have told you that I have been to the sacred spot, haven't I?

Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:50:46
I am assuming Everyone heard the good news regarding the GI Bill 2.0

Comment by BobR on 12/17/2010 15:50:55
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Well Mondo -- I think you have an answer regarding Miranda: she's having a bad day.


Did I miss something?

She's having to deal with the crazies

Comment by wickedpam on 12/17/2010 15:51:17
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by TriSec:
http://www.tomorrowland.us/images/first-flight.gif


Happy Birthday!


I have told you that I have been to the sacred spot, haven't I?


Me too

We're talking Kitty Hawk/Kill Devil Hills right

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:52:25
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Well Mondo -- I think you have an answer regarding Miranda: she's having a bad day.


Did I miss something?

She's having to deal with the crazies


Who don't have "echo-y" phones I guess.

Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:54:18
Quote by trojanrabbit:
The Boner looks emotionally unstable, now McChinless is using that tactic....hmmmm.
You know... I am starting to really get pissed at this crying game...

It is too easy to ask what would happen if we EVER saw Nancy Pelosi cry. Hillary NEVER cried -- but stammered and we talk about her weakness to this day.


This has got to stop. It really does.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 15:58:42
Quote by Raine:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
The Boner looks emotionally unstable, now McChinless is using that tactic....hmmmm.
You know... I am starting to really get pissed at this crying game...

It is too easy to ask what would happen if we EVER saw Nancy Pelosi cry. Hillary NEVER cried -- but stammered and we talk about her weakness to this day.


This has got to stop. It really does.


Or for ANY Democrat to show emotion. Like Rachel showed with Muskie. Or Dr. Dean - YEEEEHAAAAA!

Was The Boner crying when he passed out tobacco company checks on the House floor?


Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 16:10:08
Genny Cream Ale is 50 today?? Woah!

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:11:22
Speaking of a-hole parking, how about backing into a space?

Comment by TriSec on 12/17/2010 16:12:58
Ah, I've not made it to Kitty Hawk, but I've been to equally hallowed ground at Huffman Prairie. (Dayton).



Comment by TriSec on 12/17/2010 16:14:29
Quote by Mondobubba:
Speaking of a-hole parking, how about backing into a space?


Hmm? This is considered bad? (It's easier to get across a snow berm if you back in before any such storm coming.)

It's the folks that can't park straight that drive me nuts. (crowding the lines or taking up 2 or more spots.)