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Done. Next? Shut it down!
Author: Raine
Date: 12/17/2010 13:47:03
By now you've heard that the tax bill has passed in the house, and is on it's way to the President's desk. It's done, now we see if this rather unpleasant medicine will work for America.
Next up we have DADT, DREAM, Start Treaty and the Omnibus Bill. The Omnibus bill, is designed to fund the government thru September. From Jamie Dupree of the AJC: Instead, it was pulled off the floor after GOP outcries over earmarks. Think Progress reports: You read that correctly : This weekend. That could mean the government shut down they keep promising. As Mr. Dupree wrote in the link above: Regarding earmarks,I'll not go into the hypocrisy of what the GOP senators are doing as it is well documented here, here, here, and here. BobR wrote a wonderful blog about this very issue. The GOP in it's protestation is actually giving more power to spend that money to the executive branch. In other words: the President gets to spend that money.
What I would like people to realize is how devastating a government shut down would be. 800 million dollars in 1985 is a lot different than it's equivalent in todays monetary values. The economy is far worse now than it was then as well. So while folks like Ron Paul say this won't really hurt, I wonder if he would be willing to tell Grandma why her social Security check isn't coming this month. I'm really tired of the GOP obstructionism, as it always seems to hurt the people who need the help most. We got unemployment extensions for millions of people, but it looks like social security and medicaid and medicare will be the next to withheld by the GOP.
Let's hope we can still get DADT, START and the DREAM act passed. Those are very important, but so is funding the Government. It effects federal employees all over the country. It funds infrastructure and state projects that also help the economy. Lot's to do in the coming week, today should be an interesting day.
and 
Raine
Next up we have DADT, DREAM, Start Treaty and the Omnibus Bill. The Omnibus bill, is designed to fund the government thru September. From Jamie Dupree of the AJC:
Two days after unveiling a 1,924 page earmark-filled Omnibus Budget plan, Democrats last night pulled the plug on the massive budget bill, sparking an hour of bitter exchanges on the Senate floor.
What most people probably don't realize is that the Omnibus bill was the product of months of negotiations between Democrats and Republicans on the Senate Appropriations Committee, all of which had the backing of Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Overall, Republican Senators have gotten nearly $2 billion in earmarks into the omnibus, and yet because of concerns over “wasteful spending,” they are threatening to block the entire bill — which contains not only funding for their own projects, but the money the federal government needs to operate past this weekend.
Democrats in Congress prepared on Thursday for a high-stakes game of chicken over spending as they moved toward a weekend vote that, if it fails, could lead to a shutdown of wide swaths of the U.S. government.
With current funding due to expire at midnight on Saturday, Democrats set aside tentative plans to keep the government running if they do not pass a permanent spending bill by then.
So, instead of a funding bill that would keep the government running through the end of the current fiscal year, Congress will likely approve a short-term extension into February or March.
That was favored by Republicans, because it will allow them to start cutting federal budgets right away, not in the following fiscal year.
Only time will tell if the GOP will be able to get cuts both through the House, through the Senate, and signed into law.
Earmarks are essentially the directing of funds already allocated in the budget to specific projects. If the earmarked money isn't spent on the earmark, it will be spent on something else, because it's already in the budget. The earmark gives a congressperson more control over how that already allocated money is spent. It actually gives power back to the states via the Congressperson that the state voted to represent them.
Of course, that hasn't stopped politicians like Jim DeMint (R-SC) from grandstanding on the issue and trying to ban them. It may resonate well with voters who are under the mistaken impression that it will save money and reign in government spending, but it is actually self-defeating for the Congress.
What I would like people to realize is how devastating a government shut down would be.
Rather than simply speculate whether Paul is correct or not, we have a recent historical occurrence to look to for guidance: the federal government shutdown of 1995. During the nearly four-week shutdown, Social Security checks were not mailed, nor were Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements sent out. All non-essential government employees were sent home without pay. And according to a Center for American Progress report entitled “The Big Freeze”, the entire ordeal “cost the American taxpayer over $800 million and rattled the confidence of international investors in U.S. government bonds.”
Let's hope we can still get DADT, START and the DREAM act passed. Those are very important, but so is funding the Government. It effects federal employees all over the country. It funds infrastructure and state projects that also help the economy. Lot's to do in the coming week, today should be an interesting day.
and Raine
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Comment by 
TriSec on 12/17/2010 14:03:41
TriSec on 12/17/2010 14:03:41
Oh, man. I hate when that happens!
(side note....Firefox? I've had a *lot* of problems with that browser and this blog. Methinks they don't like each other much.)
(side note....Firefox? I've had a *lot* of problems with that browser and this blog. Methinks they don't like each other much.)
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 14:04:01
trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 14:04:01
I noticed something popped up in the "Latest Entries" section for a couple of seconds. But when I clicked on it, it was gone. *poof*
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:05:03
I on the other hand have had nary a one with das blog and the mighty Firefox.
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:05:03
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, man. I hate when that happens!
(side note....Firefox? I've had a *lot* of problems with that browser and this blog. Methinks they don't like each other much.)
I on the other hand have had nary a one with das blog and the mighty Firefox.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:09:46
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:09:46
"Back door stimulus" sounds kinda dirty to me.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 12/17/2010 14:17:25
wickedpam on 12/17/2010 14:17:25
Morning 
Office pot luck today, our conference room is off limits until noon!
I made haystack - choclate chips, butterscotch chips, chow mein noodles and cashews, some how it all works to a rich cookies/candy thing
Office pot luck today, our conference room is off limits until noon!
I made haystack - choclate chips, butterscotch chips, chow mein noodles and cashews, some how it all works to a rich cookies/candy thing
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:17:48
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:17:48
Ben Stein, how nice. You know why he is awful? Not because he is right wing dickweed, no. Because he is right wing dickweed who is a Nixon apologist.
Comment by 
Raine on 12/17/2010 14:19:35
yeah I am pretty pissed. It was Chocka full of Omnibus Fun facts and the impending GOP shut down of the Government.
I can't go back and rewrite the thing.
Raine on 12/17/2010 14:19:35
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, man. I hate when that happens!
(side note....Firefox? I've had a *lot* of problems with that browser and this blog. Methinks they don't like each other much.)
I can't go back and rewrite the thing.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 14:20:15
I am hoping it is sitting in the Database.
Raine on 12/17/2010 14:20:15
Quote by trojanrabbit:
I noticed something popped up in the "Latest Entries" section for a couple of seconds. But when I clicked on it, it was gone. *poof*
I am hoping it is sitting in the Database.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 14:22:37
I think there is something buggy with the updated software.
Raine on 12/17/2010 14:22:37
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Oh, man. I hate when that happens!
(side note....Firefox? I've had a *lot* of problems with that browser and this blog. Methinks they don't like each other much.)
I on the other hand have had nary a one with das blog and the mighty Firefox.
I think there is something buggy with the updated software.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 14:22:57
Raine on 12/17/2010 14:22:57
and GOOD MORNING!!! 
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:24:31
Yeah that government shut down worked so well for them in 1996.
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:24:31
Quote by Raine:yeah I am pretty pissed. It was Chocka full of Omnibus Fun facts and the impending GOP shut down of the Government.Quote by TriSec:
Oh, man. I hate when that happens!
(side note....Firefox? I've had a *lot* of problems with that browser and this blog. Methinks they don't like each other much.)
I can't go back and rewrite the thing.
Yeah that government shut down worked so well for them in 1996.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 14:24:43
Raine on 12/17/2010 14:24:43
WE have found the MISSING BLOG!!!!!!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:28:11
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:28:11
Wow, Mama's new phone screener doesn't sound like she likes her job much. Denied I was! This would have never happened with the mighty Rebeka handling the duties.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 14:33:01
Really?
She is filling in for Rebekah for a while.
Raine on 12/17/2010 14:33:01
Quote by Mondobubba:
Wow, Mama's new phone screener doesn't sound like she likes her job much. Denied I was! This would have never happened with the mighty Rebeka handling the duties.
She is filling in for Rebekah for a while.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 14:33:34
trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 14:33:34
Ah HA! There it be!
Comment by 
BobR on 12/17/2010 14:33:55
BobR on 12/17/2010 14:33:55
What is happening is the "don't display before" date gets set to some value in the future when you edit a blog already posted. That essentially hides it because the blog software thinks you don't want to display it yet.
So - the feature is buggy, and I will need to fix it this weekend.
So - the feature is buggy, and I will need to fix it this weekend.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:34:30
There's an echo, no call for you! :click:
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:34:30
Quote by Raine:Really?Quote by Mondobubba:
Wow, Mama's new phone screener doesn't sound like she likes her job much. Denied I was! This would have never happened with the mighty Rebeka handling the duties.
She is filling in for Rebekah for a while.
There's an echo, no call for you! :click:
Comment by wickedpam on 12/17/2010 14:38:13
wickedpam on 12/17/2010 14:38:13
Well, I had a great commute the last time we had a shut down - you never realize how many gov't workers drive on the local roads around here until the gov't is closed for holiday, weather or shut down.
I'll have to ask a friend of mine how it will effect them - his wife works at the patent office
I'll have to ask a friend of mine how it will effect them - his wife works at the patent office
Comment by wickedpam on 12/17/2010 14:39:31
tweet or FB a message to Chris then try calling again - maybe that'll open the door.
wickedpam on 12/17/2010 14:39:31
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Really?Quote by Mondobubba:
Wow, Mama's new phone screener doesn't sound like she likes her job much. Denied I was! This would have never happened with the mighty Rebeka handling the duties.
She is filling in for Rebekah for a while.
There's an echo, no call for you! :click:
tweet or FB a message to Chris then try calling again - maybe that'll open the door.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 14:41:15
trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 14:41:15
Somehow, part of me dreams that Obama takes the pen and puts a little signing statement on that tax bill. Just like the previous pResident did so many times. Something like letting the cuts expire over ONE MILLION DOLLARS. He can have Chevy Chase standing there beside him in a shark costume with a frikkin' laser beam attached to his head.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 14:43:56
trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 14:43:56
I've loaded the iPod with holiday tunes, and just letting the podcasts back up. Don't know when I'll start listening to those again.
So...here...heard this many times but never saw the video before.
So...here...heard this many times but never saw the video before.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:44:58
Alas the moment has passed.
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:44:58
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Really?Quote by Mondobubba:
Wow, Mama's new phone screener doesn't sound like she likes her job much. Denied I was! This would have never happened with the mighty Rebeka handling the duties.
She is filling in for Rebekah for a while.
There's an echo, no call for you! :click:
tweet or FB a message to Chris then try calling again - maybe that'll open the door.
Alas the moment has passed.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:59:22
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 14:59:22
John the RWLM is not making a lick of sense. This is one the most incoherent rants I've heard in long time.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:02:41
oh -- I wish he could as well.
Raine on 12/17/2010 15:02:41
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Somehow, part of me dreams that Obama takes the pen and puts a little signing statement on that tax bill. Just like the previous pResident did so many times. Something like letting the cuts expire over ONE MILLION DOLLARS. He can have Chevy Chase standing there beside him in a shark costume with a frikkin' laser beam attached to his head.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:06:43
I have NEVER heard that before!
That was great!
Raine on 12/17/2010 15:06:43
Quote by trojanrabbit:
I've loaded the iPod with holiday tunes, and just letting the podcasts back up. Don't know when I'll start listening to those again.
So...here...heard this many times but never saw the video before.
I have NEVER heard that before! That was great!
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:07:30
I'm starting to tune these knuckleheads out like the Sassy commercials.
Raine on 12/17/2010 15:07:30
Quote by Mondobubba:
John the RWLM is not making a lick of sense. This is one the most incoherent rants I've heard in long time.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:13:24
Since I only get to listen once a week I don't have that ability.
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:13:24
Quote by Raine:I'm starting to tune these knuckleheads out like the Sassy commercials.Quote by Mondobubba:
John the RWLM is not making a lick of sense. This is one the most incoherent rants I've heard in long time.
Since I only get to listen once a week I don't have that ability.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/17/2010 15:14:12
any new Sassy commericals? No Christmas harhness from the judgemental canine?
wickedpam on 12/17/2010 15:14:12
Quote by Raine:I'm starting to tune these knuckleheads out like the Sassy commercials.Quote by Mondobubba:
John the RWLM is not making a lick of sense. This is one the most incoherent rants I've heard in long time.
any new Sassy commericals? No Christmas harhness from the judgemental canine?
Comment by wickedpam on 12/17/2010 15:24:35
wickedpam on 12/17/2010 15:24:35
MGM skit 
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:25:50
Raine on 12/17/2010 15:25:50
MGM!!!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:27:34
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:27:34
What enemy Savage? WTF? Jesus that was totally crazy.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:31:38
Raine on 12/17/2010 15:31:38
Well Mondo -- I think you have an answer regarding Miranda: she's having a bad day.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:33:22
Propagandists often are just feeding the crazies.
In Savages case, well -- That was so friggin stupid it made him look emotionally unstable.
Raine on 12/17/2010 15:33:22
Quote by Mondobubba:
What enemy Savage? WTF? Jesus that was totally crazy.
In Savages case, well -- That was so friggin stupid it made him look emotionally unstable.
Comment by 
livingonli on 12/17/2010 15:34:31
livingonli on 12/17/2010 15:34:31
Good morning all.
Mondo, at least let Chris know the screener wouldn't let you on.. You would think Mondo from Jacksonville had an automatic pass considering the number of times you've called.
Mondo, at least let Chris know the screener wouldn't let you on.. You would think Mondo from Jacksonville had an automatic pass considering the number of times you've called.
Comment by livingonli on 12/17/2010 15:36:22
I don't know how people in this country follow that crap. They all sound so stupid and insane. That may indicate that those traits are prevalent in the American right these days.
livingonli on 12/17/2010 15:36:22
Quote by Raine:Propagandists often are just feeding the crazies.Quote by Mondobubba:
What enemy Savage? WTF? Jesus that was totally crazy.
In Savages case, well -- That was so friggin stupid it made him look emotionally unstable.
I don't know how people in this country follow that crap. They all sound so stupid and insane. That may indicate that those traits are prevalent in the American right these days.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:38:58
Did I miss something?
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:38:58
Quote by Raine:
Well Mondo -- I think you have an answer regarding Miranda: she's having a bad day.
Did I miss something?
Comment by TriSec on 12/17/2010 15:40:21
Happy Birthday!
TriSec on 12/17/2010 15:40:21
Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 15:45:58
The Boner looks emotionally unstable, now McChinless is using that tactic....hmmmm.
trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 15:45:58
Quote by Raine:Propagandists often are just feeding the crazies.Quote by Mondobubba:
What enemy Savage? WTF? Jesus that was totally crazy.
In Savages case, well -- That was so friggin stupid it made him look emotionally unstable.
The Boner looks emotionally unstable, now McChinless is using that tactic....hmmmm.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:47:59
I have told you that I have been to the sacred spot, haven't I?
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:47:59
Quote by TriSec:Happy Birthday!
I have told you that I have been to the sacred spot, haven't I?
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:50:46
Raine on 12/17/2010 15:50:46
Comment by BobR on 12/17/2010 15:50:55
She's having to deal with the crazies
BobR on 12/17/2010 15:50:55
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Well Mondo -- I think you have an answer regarding Miranda: she's having a bad day.
Did I miss something?
She's having to deal with the crazies
Comment by wickedpam on 12/17/2010 15:51:17
Me too
We're talking Kitty Hawk/Kill Devil Hills right
wickedpam on 12/17/2010 15:51:17
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:Happy Birthday!
I have told you that I have been to the sacred spot, haven't I?
Me too
We're talking Kitty Hawk/Kill Devil Hills right
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:52:25
Who don't have "echo-y" phones I guess.
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 15:52:25
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Well Mondo -- I think you have an answer regarding Miranda: she's having a bad day.
Did I miss something?
She's having to deal with the crazies
Who don't have "echo-y" phones I guess.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 15:54:18
You know... I am starting to really get pissed at this crying game...
It is too easy to ask what would happen if we EVER saw Nancy Pelosi cry. Hillary NEVER cried -- but stammered and we talk about her weakness to this day.
This has got to stop. It really does.
Raine on 12/17/2010 15:54:18
Quote by trojanrabbit:
The Boner looks emotionally unstable, now McChinless is using that tactic....hmmmm.
It is too easy to ask what would happen if we EVER saw Nancy Pelosi cry. Hillary NEVER cried -- but stammered and we talk about her weakness to this day.
This has got to stop. It really does.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 15:58:42
Or for ANY Democrat to show emotion. Like Rachel showed with Muskie. Or Dr. Dean - YEEEEHAAAAA!
Was The Boner crying when he passed out tobacco company checks on the House floor?
trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 15:58:42
Quote by Raine:You know... I am starting to really get pissed at this crying game...Quote by trojanrabbit:
The Boner looks emotionally unstable, now McChinless is using that tactic....hmmmm.
It is too easy to ask what would happen if we EVER saw Nancy Pelosi cry. Hillary NEVER cried -- but stammered and we talk about her weakness to this day.
This has got to stop. It really does.
Or for ANY Democrat to show emotion. Like Rachel showed with Muskie. Or Dr. Dean - YEEEEHAAAAA!
Was The Boner crying when he passed out tobacco company checks on the House floor?
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 16:10:08
Raine on 12/17/2010 16:10:08
Genny Cream Ale is 50 today?? Woah!
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:11:22
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:11:22
Speaking of a-hole parking, how about backing into a space?
Comment by TriSec on 12/17/2010 16:12:58
TriSec on 12/17/2010 16:12:58
Ah, I've not made it to Kitty Hawk, but I've been to equally hallowed ground at Huffman Prairie. (Dayton).
Comment by TriSec on 12/17/2010 16:14:29
Hmm? This is considered bad? (It's easier to get across a snow berm if you back in before any such storm coming.)
It's the folks that can't park straight that drive me nuts. (crowding the lines or taking up 2 or more spots.)
TriSec on 12/17/2010 16:14:29
Quote by Mondobubba:
Speaking of a-hole parking, how about backing into a space?
Hmm? This is considered bad? (It's easier to get across a snow berm if you back in before any such storm coming.)
It's the folks that can't park straight that drive me nuts. (crowding the lines or taking up 2 or more spots.)
Comment by livingonli on 12/17/2010 16:16:13
They drive me nuts too especially in a crowded area where it means I am unable to find a parking space.
livingonli on 12/17/2010 16:16:13
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Speaking of a-hole parking, how about backing into a space?
Hmm? This is considered bad? (It's easier to get across a snow berm if you back in before any such storm coming.)
It's the folks that can't park straight that drive me nuts. (crowding the lines or taking up 2 or more spots.)
They drive me nuts too especially in a crowded area where it means I am unable to find a parking space.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/17/2010 16:16:23
hate it - only times it's excuseable is in case of snow or ice - but why do you have to back into a parking space anyway - are you in such a hurry to leave you can't be bothered to back out?
wickedpam on 12/17/2010 16:16:23
Quote by Mondobubba:
Speaking of a-hole parking, how about backing into a space?
hate it - only times it's excuseable is in case of snow or ice - but why do you have to back into a parking space anyway - are you in such a hurry to leave you can't be bothered to back out?
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:17:26
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:17:26
I said it before and I will say it again. Ben Stein is not an honest conservative. He is a Nixon apologist. I will say this every time Mama says this.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 16:18:48
Raine on 12/17/2010 16:18:48
No, Chris, but it is the GOP that are hypocrites.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:19:19
Picture this: some clown in a huge pick-up or SUV taking at least twice as long to back into a space that it does to just turn the wheel to the right or left and pull into the space.
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:19:19
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Speaking of a-hole parking, how about backing into a space?
Hmm? This is considered bad? (It's easier to get across a snow berm if you back in before any such storm coming.)
It's the folks that can't park straight that drive me nuts. (crowding the lines or taking up 2 or more spots.)
Picture this: some clown in a huge pick-up or SUV taking at least twice as long to back into a space that it does to just turn the wheel to the right or left and pull into the space.
Comment by wickedpam on 12/17/2010 16:21:22
wickedpam on 12/17/2010 16:21:22
time to go finish the pot luck set up - see ya'll later
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:23:10
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:23:10
Speaking of anniversaries, yesterday December 16 was the 25th of Paul "Big Paulie" Castellano being killed in hail of gunfire outside of Spark's Steakhouse (210 E 46th St NY, NY). This hit was ordered by one John Gotti.
Comment by TriSec on 12/17/2010 16:26:43
TriSec on 12/17/2010 16:26:43
I'd rate that as more of a symptom of bad driving education and people taking on more vehicle than they are capable of handling.
I learned how to drive on a cargo van with no rear visibility; I actually can't look over my shoulder to back up. Last time I tried, I almost hit something.
I learned how to drive on a cargo van with no rear visibility; I actually can't look over my shoulder to back up. Last time I tried, I almost hit something.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:33:11
No it is symptomatic of boorish assholism. There is no need to back into a space. It wastes other peoples time as you back into the space.
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:33:11
Quote by TriSec:
I'd rate that as more of a symptom of bad driving education and people taking on more vehicle than they are capable of handling.
I learned how to drive on a cargo van with no rear visibility; I actually can't look over my shoulder to back up. Last time I tried, I almost hit something.
No it is symptomatic of boorish assholism. There is no need to back into a space. It wastes other peoples time as you back into the space.
Comment by BobR on 12/17/2010 16:41:13
If they pull in headfirst, then time is going to be wasted when they back out of the space. It's 50-50 to me...
BobR on 12/17/2010 16:41:13
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
I'd rate that as more of a symptom of bad driving education and people taking on more vehicle than they are capable of handling.
I learned how to drive on a cargo van with no rear visibility; I actually can't look over my shoulder to back up. Last time I tried, I almost hit something.
No it is symptomatic of boorish assholism. There is no need to back into a space. It wastes other peoples time as you back into the space.
If they pull in headfirst, then time is going to be wasted when they back out of the space. It's 50-50 to me...
Comment by TriSec on 12/17/2010 16:41:42
TriSec on 12/17/2010 16:41:42
Like Dan Rea says....where reasonable people disagree reasonably. 
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:43:00
Come, spend time in Jacksonville. It will change your mind.
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:43:00
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
I'd rate that as more of a symptom of bad driving education and people taking on more vehicle than they are capable of handling.
I learned how to drive on a cargo van with no rear visibility; I actually can't look over my shoulder to back up. Last time I tried, I almost hit something.
No it is symptomatic of boorish assholism. There is no need to back into a space. It wastes other peoples time as you back into the space.
If they pull in headfirst, then time is going to be wasted when they back out of the space. It's 50-50 to me...
Come, spend time in Jacksonville. It will change your mind.
Comment by TriSec on 12/17/2010 16:43:56
TriSec on 12/17/2010 16:43:56
Actually, boorish assholism is the petite-brained morons that pull up to the front door at the supermarket and idle while somebody "runs in for milk".
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:50:05
Ohhhh! We agree. Or into the roundabout in front of my local lye-berry.
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:50:05
Quote by TriSec:
Actually, boorish assholism is the petite-brained morons that pull up to the front door at the supermarket and idle while somebody "runs in for milk".
Ohhhh! We agree. Or into the roundabout in front of my local lye-berry.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 16:52:34
Raine on 12/17/2010 16:52:34
I'm a fan of the pull thru space. I can pull in and out. I'm willing to park WAY far away for this pleasure.
You never know if someone backed in or not. IT is FAR easier for me to just pull out of a parking space than to back out, to be honest. I can see other drivers better.
You never know if someone backed in or not. IT is FAR easier for me to just pull out of a parking space than to back out, to be honest. I can see other drivers better.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 16:55:03
Raine on 12/17/2010 16:55:03
I dunno. RE: M Vick --
He's gotten a second Chance -- I get that, but this is like a pedophile asking to be a big brother.
He's gotten a second Chance -- I get that, but this is like a pedophile asking to be a big brother.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 16:56:00
He doesn't NEED a dog.
he wants a dog. I say no. M Vick really should be very happy with his second chance.
Raine on 12/17/2010 16:56:00
Quote by Raine:
I dunno. RE: M Vick --
He's gotten a second Chance -- I get that, but this is like a pedophile asking to be a big brother.
he wants a dog. I say no. M Vick really should be very happy with his second chance.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:56:32
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 16:56:32
Again Ben Stein is a Nixonian dickweed. Especially in light of the new released Nixon tapes where Tricky Dick is being particularly anti-Semitic.
Comment by Raine on 12/17/2010 16:56:40
Raine on 12/17/2010 16:56:40
Vick can however -- IMO get a cat.
Comment by Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 17:01:04
Mondobubba on 12/17/2010 17:01:04
I need to go buy printer ink. Yes I will be going to Staples, yes I will be holding to the pocket lint thing.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 17:41:35
I'd give him a choice, dog or NFL.
trojanrabbit on 12/17/2010 17:41:35
Quote by Raine:He doesn't NEED a dog.Quote by Raine:
I dunno. RE: M Vick --
He's gotten a second Chance -- I get that, but this is like a pedophile asking to be a big brother.
he wants a dog. I say no. M Vick really should be very happy with his second chance.
I'd give him a choice, dog or NFL.
Comment by TriSec on 12/17/2010 17:47:03
TriSec on 12/17/2010 17:47:03
Your blog Webelos Den Leader is pleased to report that we are going into the break at just about halfway through the meeting plans. I'd say I have about 7 1/2 done out of 16 planned.
Of course, there's more time after the break. (4 more months!)
I'm particularly pleased that the Cubmaster's son is in my den; he seems to be doing well.
Of course, there's more time after the break. (4 more months!)
I'm particularly pleased that the Cubmaster's son is in my den; he seems to be doing well.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 12/17/2010 18:24:19
Mornin' all & happy Fridee.. 
Ugh I'm so tired today.. I've actually fallen asleep while still typing several times. It's pretty funny cuz I'll be sitting here typing something with my eyes closed and I can almost feel myself trying to snore.. freaky shit mang!
In other news, I'm was hoping my brother would've gotten back to me this morning about helping me cover some of the cost for mom's Christmas present (which will either be a new laptop or several new parts to retrofit her ancient computer into a modern mini-beast).
Scoopster on 12/17/2010 18:24:19
Mornin' all & happy Fridee.. Ugh I'm so tired today.. I've actually fallen asleep while still typing several times. It's pretty funny cuz I'll be sitting here typing something with my eyes closed and I can almost feel myself trying to snore.. freaky shit mang!
In other news, I'm was hoping my brother would've gotten back to me this morning about helping me cover some of the cost for mom's Christmas present (which will either be a new laptop or several new parts to retrofit her ancient computer into a modern mini-beast).
Comment by TriSec on 12/17/2010 18:41:22
TriSec on 12/17/2010 18:41:22
waiting for Santa...
I swear, if I catch that perv comin' down my chimney again...
I swear, if I catch that perv comin' down my chimney again...
Comment by BobR on 12/17/2010 18:59:19
BobR on 12/17/2010 18:59:19
Okay - the bug in the blog is fixed (for the Display date). We should no longer have the "disappearing blog" problem...
Comment by livingonli on 12/17/2010 19:36:29
livingonli on 12/17/2010 19:36:29
Well I just got word that the car can't pass inspection in its current condition so the car is for all intensive purposes dead. If I'm lucky I may be able to score a wagon in about 2 weeks for $2500 (I have to check it out) otherwise I will end up waiting until spring to get 401k money. Although if the wagon can work out, that might be better in the short run (and it saves me having to take out another 401k loan).
Comment by TriSec on 12/17/2010 19:40:31
TriSec on 12/17/2010 19:40:31
Say, also first-flighted today:
1935 - the Douglas DC-3
1947 - the Boeing B-47 (first USAF jet bomber)
1935 - the Douglas DC-3
1947 - the Boeing B-47 (first USAF jet bomber)
Comment by livingonli on 12/17/2010 20:27:20
livingonli on 12/17/2010 20:27:20
Off to work the Knicks-Heat match on MSG. ESPN is televising the game nationally.