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Trust No One
Author: BobR    Date: 01/12/2011 13:45:23

There's been a lot written about Jared Loughner, and what might have motivated him to go on his horrific killing spree in Tucson. There have been lots of theories and accusations and suppositions, but very little in the way of concrete data. All we have to go on are his incomprehensible videos and 2nd hand anecdotes from aquaintences. I hope this will be my last treatise on this sick and twisted individual.

The most popular meme in the circus of talking heads is that the "angry rhetoric" and violence-suggestive gun-focused talking points from Republican leaders and pundits is to blame. I initially felt that way as well. After all, it hasn't been that long since a church was shot up for being "liberal", and an abortion doctor was killed. It all fits the pattern, right?

I believe it fits a pattern, yes, but not one provoked by violent gun rhetoric. Instead, I think it falls under the umbrella of paranoid delusion, inflamed by a drumbeat of "the government is out to get you" conspiracy theory.

To get a better understanding of why this might be the case, there is this excellent piece focusing on the semantics of the ongoing discussion. In his conclusion, he writes:
So now that we have something resembling a proper working definition of “violent rhetoric,” the next question is whether “violent rhetoric” like Palin’s is responsible for the assassination attempt on Gifford. The answer is that I’m not convinced.** From what I’ve read, he never expressed interest in guns until last November, so the likelihood of ads like hers stoking his imagination is slim. The more pernicious rhetoric here is the conspiratorial variety being mainstreamed by the likes of Glenn Beck: rabid and ahistorical anti-federalism feeds into the beliefs of those who believe they’re being persecuted by vast faceless conspiracies.

**That said, I do believe whichever party was responsible for the dismantling the mental health system—generally in the 1980s and more recently in Arizona—and consistently lobbies for fewer restrictions on the purchasing of powerful weaponry is partly culpable for what happened on Saturday

So - does this get Glenn Beck and the others off the hook? Not really. One can only speculate whether they intended this as a result of their rants. However, they should have at least considered their target audience. The vast majority of the people that hang on every word from Beck and the others would never conceive of picking up a gun and using it against their fellow citizens. There are those, however, diseased of mind or devoid of soul, that will internalize that creeping paranoia, that sense of desperation and futility, and lash out.

What about those on the left? I certainly remember during the darkest depths of the Bush administration the paranoid conspiracies promulgated on message forums and hushed discussions in the corners of taverns. We all thought that the facists were going to create a false flag attack and use it as an excuse to invoke Marshall Law. Smart, sound-of-mind friends had plans to escape to Canada, or what they would do when the Blackwater thugs came to round us up. Certain things just weren't discussed on cell phones, because everyone thought theirs might be tapped. A bit of hubris on us all, perhaps?

The big difference here, of course, is the reaction. Most people, from the far left to almost the far right would not dream of taking up weapons against the government, should the government come banging down the front door. Despite macho talk to the contrary, most people know that a firefight against US soldiers is an exercise in futility and an instant death sentence.

What kind of person, though, would make a pre-emptive attack against a perceived threat, be it a member of Congress or a church, or an IRS building? I submit that the more liberal a person is, the less likely they would be to do so. We are, after all, anti-war and anti-violence, and - according to the fear-mongers on the right - trying to take away everyone's guns. How likely is it, then, that someone on the left would use a gun to commit a violent act against another human?

This is not to suggest that Jared Loughner was a right-winger. He likely did not hew left or right in a traditional political way. I DO suggest that the paranoid conspiratorial drumbeat from the right-wing politicians and pundits fed the anger and paranoia in his diseased mind until it saw only one answer.

Regardless of who is in charge (Republican or Democrat or Other), I expect that there will always be those who make a living feeding the fear of those in the minority with ridiculous theories concocted from bad logic and supposition. Unfortunately, this will push the ill of mind to make plans to "get them before they get you".

Trust me.

 

41 comments (Latest Comment: 01/13/2011 00:28:43 by BobR)
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Comment by wickedpam on 01/12/2011 14:09:41
Morning

Comment by wickedpam on 01/12/2011 14:11:45
Really, did anyone think Palin was going to take any sort of responsibility for any of this?

Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 14:24:57
Very thought provoking blog. Thank you for saying it, Bob.

How is everyone doing this snowy morning?

Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 14:27:13
Quote by wickedpam:
Really, did anyone think Palin was going to take any sort of responsibility for any of this?

I didn't, but I certainly didn't think she could have possibly made it worse.

Blood Libel? As Political Wire puts it. It's Dog Whistle Politics.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/12/2011 14:30:51
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Really, did anyone think Palin was going to take any sort of responsibility for any of this?

I didn't, but I certainly didn't think she could have possibly made it worse.

Blood Libel? As Political Wire puts it. It's Dog Whistle Politics.



Oh no, I thought she would - she's all about "Sarah" everyone else be damned. We've all seen her when she's caught on video being confronted by someone who doesn't like her views - she's dismissive and she's always right cause the rest of us are stupid.

Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 14:34:25
and, I find it amazing that someone who has the audacity to call for NOT suppressing dissent -- and praised Rep Giffords for her reading the first Amendment is busy scrubby ANY dissent from her facebook page.


the irony is painful.

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/12/2011 14:51:12
SNOW.... snnnnnnoooooooooowwwwwwwwww........



Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 15:00:45
Quote by velveeta jones:
SNOW.... snnnnnnoooooooooowwwwwwwwww........



Another Snow day?

I can't believe how much show you guys have gotten this year!


Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 15:02:58
I wonder of Sarah used a teleprompter for her speech.


Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 15:06:29
one more thing... this Blood Libel thing?

Did Sarah forget that representative giffords is....

JEWISH???

Comment by velveeta jones on 01/12/2011 15:07:20
Quote by Raine:
Quote by velveeta jones:
SNOW.... snnnnnnoooooooooowwwwwwwwww........



Another Snow day?

I can't believe how much show you guys have gotten this year!

Oh.... it's not just "snow" it's also NO SCHOOL!!!!



Comment by wickedpam on 01/12/2011 15:15:42
Quote by velveeta jones:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by velveeta jones:
SNOW.... snnnnnnoooooooooowwwwwwwwww........



Another Snow day?

I can't believe how much show you guys have gotten this year!

Oh.... it's not just "snow" it's also NO SCHOOL!!!!




uh oh - teenager stuck inside alert!

Comment by wickedpam on 01/12/2011 15:20:09
who was it yesterday said, on the show, we should use shunning - I still like this idea

Comment by clintster on 01/12/2011 15:24:04
Another snow day here. I'm about to go stir crazy, and poor victim Sarah Palin's video ain't helping.

In the words of Jules Winfield, "I'm trying, Ringo - I'm trying real hard - to be the shepherd."

Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 15:58:32
What Sarah is doing is trying to justify Violent political rhetoric.

What the left is trying to do is condemn it.

Comment by clintster on 01/12/2011 15:59:25
"If men and women were angels, there would be no need for government." Which explains why tea partiers and people like Palin constantly rail against government.

Comment by Scoopster on 01/12/2011 16:22:56
Mornin' all..

Well the break in the storm here is over and it's comin' down hard & fast again. Overnight we got about six inches of snow, then it changed over to rain/ice and started screwing with the power lines and satellite.

We've lost power here three times for a total of 10 seconds - it's EXTREMELY annoying. I stopped resetting the clocks after the second time.

Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 16:27:42
MGM!

Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 16:28:35
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Well the break in the storm here is over and it's comin' down hard & fast again. Overnight we got about six inches of snow, then it changed over to rain/ice and started screwing with the power lines and satellite.

We've lost power here three times for a total of 10 seconds - it's EXTREMELY annoying. I stopped resetting the clocks after the second time.


OOf.

Still waiting for Tri to Check in. I suspect he is getting superduperslammed.


Comment by wickedpam on 01/12/2011 16:30:46
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Well the break in the storm here is over and it's comin' down hard & fast again. Overnight we got about six inches of snow, then it changed over to rain/ice and started screwing with the power lines and satellite.

We've lost power here three times for a total of 10 seconds - it's EXTREMELY annoying. I stopped resetting the clocks after the second time.


OOf.

Still waiting for Tri to Check in. I suspect he is getting superduperslammed.



anyone heard from Fort Liv?

Comment by BobR on 01/12/2011 16:35:01
AWESOME NEWS!

I just got the official offer letter from another company for a new job. It pays more, I will be able to work from home once I get settled in, and the work is the kind of stuff I really like to do. It's like a dream come true.

New job title: Architect (used in the software world to denote one who designs software systems).



Comment by clintster on 01/12/2011 16:41:17
Quote by BobR:
AWESOME NEWS!

I just got the official offer letter from another company for a new job. It pays more, I will be able to work from home once I get settled in, and the work is the kind of stuff I really like to do. It's like a dream come true.

New job title: Architect (used in the software world to denote one who designs software systems).



Very good news! Congrats, Bobber.

Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 16:41:19
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Well the break in the storm here is over and it's comin' down hard & fast again. Overnight we got about six inches of snow, then it changed over to rain/ice and started screwing with the power lines and satellite.

We've lost power here three times for a total of 10 seconds - it's EXTREMELY annoying. I stopped resetting the clocks after the second time.


OOf.

Still waiting for Tri to Check in. I suspect he is getting superduperslammed.



anyone heard from Fort Liv?
nothing from Fort Liv yet either.

(I that term!! )


Comment by livingonli on 01/12/2011 16:41:26
Good morning everyone.

The snow actuallly got out of here an hour ago and I did get home last night. Ending up getting slightly less than forecast while Bloomberg is patting himself on the back because the snow removal wasn't the disaster the other storm was.

Both Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in their current rhetoric seem to be meeting the example that John Dean wrote of "Conservatives Without Conscience".

Comment by Scoopster on 01/12/2011 16:49:18
Quote by BobR:
AWESOME NEWS!

I just got the official offer letter from another company for a new job. It pays more, I will be able to work from home once I get settled in, and the work is the kind of stuff I really like to do. It's like a dream come true.

New job title: Architect (used in the software world to denote one who designs software systems).


WOOOOOO that's awesome!!

Now just say that you're gonna be the architect behind a new MMO and I'll apply to be a GM

Comment by wickedpam on 01/12/2011 16:55:03
Quote by BobR:
AWESOME NEWS!

I just got the official offer letter from another company for a new job. It pays more, I will be able to work from home once I get settled in, and the work is the kind of stuff I really like to do. It's like a dream come true.

New job title: Architect (used in the software world to denote one who designs software systems).





Shut Up! No Way!


Comment by wickedpam on 01/12/2011 16:56:47
Wait! your not moving are ya

Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 16:57:16
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning everyone.

The snow actuallly got out of here an hour ago and I did get home last night. Ending up getting slightly less than forecast while Bloomberg is patting himself on the back because the snow removal wasn't the disaster the other storm was.

Both Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in their current rhetoric seem to be meeting the example that John Dean wrote of "Conservatives Without Conscience".


Fort Liv in da house!!!


Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 16:57:44
Quote by wickedpam:
Wait! your not moving are ya

NO WE ARE NOT!!!

This is a job where bob works from HOME!

Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 16:58:29
Quote by wickedpam:
Shut Up! No Way!
waaAAAaaaYYY!




Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 16:59:55
Another job for the Obama recovery, I might add.

and because of that, someone else is going to be hired to replace a position that needs to be filled!



Comment by wickedpam on 01/12/2011 17:00:18
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning everyone.

The snow actuallly got out of here an hour ago and I did get home last night. Ending up getting slightly less than forecast while Bloomberg is patting himself on the back because the snow removal wasn't the disaster the other storm was.

Both Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in their current rhetoric seem to be meeting the example that John Dean wrote of "Conservatives Without Conscience".


Fort Liv in da house!!!



Woot! Woot!

Comment by wickedpam on 01/12/2011 17:01:03
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Shut Up! No Way!
waaAAAaaaYYY!




Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 11:57:44 AM
[Quote by wickedpam:
Wait! your not moving are ya


NO WE ARE NOT!!!

This is a job where bob works from HOME!


WooHoo!


Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 17:19:22
Quote by wickedpam:
WooHoo!
I know!


Now he's gonna have 5 days a week for me to annoy him.




Seriously, this is really good stuff. It's a great company. When he's ready I'll let him tell the rest.

I am very proud of mah bebeh today.

Comment by BobR on 01/12/2011 17:31:08
ok - just signed the offer letter, printed and filled out the forms, scanned and emailed them back.

It's official

Now to write my resignation letter for my current job.

Comment by livingonli on 01/12/2011 21:49:41
Did everyone take a long lunch break?

Comment by BobR on 01/12/2011 22:44:06
Quote by livingonli:
Did everyone take a long lunch break?

VERY long, LOL...

Comment by Raine on 01/12/2011 23:04:53
Quote by BobR:
Quote by livingonli:
Did everyone take a long lunch break?

VERY long, LOL...
I had a very bad sinus headache -- one that I succumbed to and slept away.




Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/12/2011 23:06:19
Left for work at 4AM this morning and made it just before 7AM.. There were only 3 of us at work.

About 18" outside of Chez Rabbit.

Oh, see the Republicans eat their own. AZ Republicans resign out of fear of the tea baggers.

Uhhh, f*cking cowards.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/12/2011 23:08:51
Quote by BobR:
AWESOME NEWS!

I just got the official offer letter from another company for a new job. It pays more, I will be able to work from home once I get settled in, and the work is the kind of stuff I really like to do. It's like a dream come true.

New job title: Architect (used in the software world to denote one who designs software systems).



Congrats, BobR

Comment by BobR on 01/13/2011 00:28:43
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Left for work at 4AM this morning and made it just before 7AM.. There were only 3 of us at work.

About 18" outside of Chez Rabbit.

Oh, see the Republicans eat their own. AZ Republicans resign out of fear of the tea baggers.

Uhhh, f*cking cowards.

they're like psycho hillbillies on meth out there - I'd be a little freaked too.