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Stating the Obvious
Author: BobR    Date: 02/18/2011 13:22:40

Money, money, money... It always seems to be at the center of controversy. Listening to the debate about the deficit, taxes, jobs, and the budget, one can almost picture a family arguing around the dinner table. Mom thinks Dad should earn more, or get a second job (increase taxes), Dad thinks Mom should learn to get by with less (cut spending), and the kids want more allowance, while the credit cards get maxed out every month.

In this analogy, the states are the kids. Every state has some method for raising revenue to perform the essential functions of government, and different states do it in different ways. Some via income taxes, some via sales taxes, some via tourist dollars, or some combination thereof. They also get money from the Federal government. The recession hit the states hard, with less dollars coming both locally and federally. Unlike the Federal government, some states are not allowed to run up deficits and debt. Therefore, they are scrambling to make up the shortfall.

The most visible result of this currently is occurring in Wisconsin. There, the state is cutting education, laying off teachers, and - for some "odd" reason - trying to bust the teacher's union:
Shortfalls finally forced the layoffs of 24 of the school's 150 teachers earlier this year. On Jan. 5, [Moore] learned she would be one of them.

Moore is one of many thousands of public workers in Wisconsin with a vested interest in the mushrooming debate about a measure that would strip most of their collective-bargaining rights. The dispute over Governor Walker's “budget-repair” bill has escalated sharply. After Republican-controlled state legislature teed up a Thursday vote, Democrats forestalled the bill's certain passage by ditching work to deny the GOP a quorum. When the Senate convened this morning at the state capitol building in Madison, only Republicans were present. According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, a passel of Democrats has fled the state; police have been dispatched to corral the absentees and return them to the floor. One Republican called it an attempt to “shut down democracy.”

Thousands of protesters, who have camped out in the capitol rotunda and stormed the halls since Tuesday, are witness to a frenzied scene. Schools are again closed – in Madison, the epicenter of the fracas, but also in some other state districts as well. Sign-toting public workers are decrying Walker's bill, which would take away negotiating rights on issues ranging from benefits to working conditions, tie salaries to the Consumer Price Index and force significant mandatory increases in public-employee pension and health-care contributions.

Where should cuts come? Is education really the best place to cut? That seems to be the target in New York City, where "New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Thursday unveiled a $65.6 billion budget plan for fiscal year 2012 that calls for firing 4,666 teachers". Michigan is looking at cutting education, and California is cutting funds for state colleges. Colorado will be losing teachers, reducing funding for state colleges, and closing state parks as well.

It's not all bad news. For Indiana, it's bad news for some rural and urban schools where cuts will occur, but overall state spending will remain flat. North Carolina is proposing budget cuts, but is planning on ensuring no teachers' jobs are lost. For NC, the pain will roll downhill to the counties.

So who else will be hurting from these cuts? Here in Virginia, the disabled will be without help. And perhaps most shocking of all, Massachusetts may not have the funds to hold presidential primaries in 2012. When the very fabric, the root core of our democracy is threatened by financial crisis, then something MUST be done.

Texas is looking at gambling to bring in additional dollars. Is preying on the weakness and desperation of the poor really the best way to do it? Connecticut's governor is doing the politically incorrect thing - raising taxes. Naturally, that is wildly unpopular, but is it really worse than losing teachers and cutting medical services to the most needy? At some point, don't we need to be grownups and say, "ok - I can toss in just a little bit more with everyone else, so we can have good schools, plowed streets, and a weekend in the state park"?

There is one other little wrinkle in this. In the original analogy, the kids were the states and got their allowance from the Fed. The reality, though, is that the Fed gets all of its funds from the states, keeps most for itself, and then returns some back to the states. However, not all states give and get in equal proportion. Take a look at these graphics. At the "most screwed state" end of the spectrum is New Jersey, which gets back 61 cents for every tax dollar sent to DC. At the "welfare state" end of the spectrum is New Mexico which gets back $2.03 for every tax dollar sent to DC. It's understood that in most cases, this is to help those poor states to prevent them from sliding into complete poverty, and ensure they can keep the water running and the school doors open.

But consider this - look at the states having budgetary problems, and look at which states get the most federal funding per tax dollar. Also consider which states are "red states", electing Republicans who are consistently trying to reduce the flow of tax dollars to the federal government. Perhaps if they weren't receiving such a lopsided return, it wouldn't seem so hypocritical.

The solution to this budget mess means - yes - cutting spending. But it also means increasing revenue. No one likes to raise taxes. But this country was quite prosperous and creating jobs when tax rates were higher than they are now. Higher taxes will not mean fewer jobs. Teachers and state and federal workers spend money too, money that is used to buy products and services that are provided by other private sector workers, and thus - jobs.

Money only works when it is in motion.

 

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Comment by Scoopster on 02/18/2011 13:36:19
Mornin' all & Happy Fridee!

The workers movement in Wisconsin has now spread to Ohio, where Gov. Kasich (R-Fox News) and his state legislature goons are pushing through an identical union-busting bill. So far the crowds at the state house have grown to about 5,000 and have been increasing every day. It's a good start but it's not enough. We need help get more people motivated by showing our support the same way we pushed Wisconsin into the national spotlight - if you see an article or blog or whatever on the Ohio fight get it on your Facebook & Twitter feeds, link it to other smaller forums, write up your own summary, whatever it takes.

That said, I need to get back into writing stuff myself.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2011 13:41:30
Morning

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 14:11:04
I wish I were closer to Wisconsin.

Comment by BobR on 02/18/2011 14:11:14
ok - the blog is up.

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 14:19:08
Excellent Bob!

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 14:19:50
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all & Happy Fridee!

The workers movement in Wisconsin has now spread to Ohio, where Gov. Kasich (R-Fox News) and his state legislature goons are pushing through an identical union-busting bill. So far the crowds at the state house have grown to about 5,000 and have been increasing every day. It's a good start but it's not enough. We need help get more people motivated by showing our support the same way we pushed Wisconsin into the national spotlight - if you see an article or blog or whatever on the Ohio fight get it on your Facebook & Twitter feeds, link it to other smaller forums, write up your own summary, whatever it takes.

That said, I need to get back into writing stuff myself.
I'm hearing it's gonna happen in Florida as well.


Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 14:24:48
Scoop I put a couple of links on my FB page.

Comment by Scoopster on 02/18/2011 14:37:14
Quote by Raine:
Scoop I put a couple of links on my FB page.

Got 'em!

I just applied to have my old DK account reinstated after two years. I still have no clue why it got locked (if I had to guess I'd say fighting with trolls in a I/P discussion thread).

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 14:40:42
DID I hear that right? John Boehner is saying the DEMS are threatening to shut down the government? WTF!!!

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 14:45:54
Comment by Scoopster on 02/18/2011 14:48:40
Quote by Raine:
DID I hear that right? John Boehner is saying the DEMS are threatening to shut down the government? WTF!!!

I had a pretty vigorous discussion with my boss this morning about everything going on.. from unions to Boehner to Obama's ability to win again. We're pretty much on the same side but he's a lot more skeptical about things turning around in the next election cycle.

Or maybe it's that I have to much faith that voters will see through the shit that these guys are pulling..

Comment by Scoopster on 02/18/2011 14:49:27

Oooh.. I know people a buncha people in Indiana!

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 14:51:03

I wish this had actual links. That is the tricky part.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2011 14:53:04
Quote by Raine:
DID I hear that right? John Boehner is saying the DEMS are threatening to shut down the government? WTF!!!



yes, yes you did - remember they catapult the propoganda

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2011 14:56:22
VA is a right to work state, also our company has a policy that if you try to bring in a union you can be fired.

I swear I used to think it was pasted the time for unions, I see now I was wrong

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 14:57:47
Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 14:59:14
Quote by wickedpam:
VA is a right to work state, also our company has a policy that if you try to bring in a union you can be fired.

I swear I used to think it was pasted the time for unions, I see now I was wrong

Georgia is like that as well. Most southern states are.

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 15:02:10
Comment by Scoopster on 02/18/2011 15:03:02
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
VA is a right to work state, also our company has a policy that if you try to bring in a union you can be fired.

I swear I used to think it was pasted the time for unions, I see now I was wrong

Georgia is like that as well. Most southern states are.

I thought I heard something about this jackass in Maine trying to push for right-to-work laws too. Gonna have to round up some of my connections here and take a trip to Augusta!

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 15:10:15
Did anyone see what happened in NH? It looks like it's a Right to Work State as well.

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 15:13:38
Just posted a few more up on the FB page. Yes, Maine is dealing with this as well.

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 15:14:13
We're going to be on hour three of turn up the night this eveing. I hope we can discuss this.

Comment by Scoopster on 02/18/2011 15:15:13
Quote by Raine:
Did anyone see what happened in NH? It looks like it's a Right to Work State as well.

Actually I did see that, and while it's guaranteed to pass the NH Senate it will get vetoed by the Governor and the House is short of being able to override it.

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 15:20:26
between the blog post this morning and YOU -- yes YOU, SCOOPSTER -- I am in a State today!

Comment by Scoopster on 02/18/2011 15:22:33
http://i.imgur.com/49hDC.jpg


Comment by Scoopster on 02/18/2011 15:32:12
Meanwhile on AJE, it's Back to Egypt! The people have retaken Tahrir Square to demand that Mubarak's family be stripped of its wealth.

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 15:37:38
Quote by Scoopster:
Meanwhile on AJE, it's Back to Egypt! The people have retaken Tahrir Square to demand that Mubarak's family be stripped of its wealth.

Libya has it going on as well.

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 15:53:13
Chris Matthews on mondays show? OH how I would LOVE for John Fueglsang to be there.

I his matthews impression

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2011 15:58:06
omg, that would be funny

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 16:05:25
Good lord. Wisconsin is getting ugly. and it isn't those damn union thugs.


Wis. GOP sends state troopers after Democratic senate leader

GOP Wis. Senate leader says State Patrol sent to minority leader's home to return him for vote
MADISON, Wis. - Republicans in the Wisconsin state Senate have asked the governor to send state troopers after Democratic leader Mark Miller.

Senate Democrats are boycotting a Senate vote on a bill that would strip public sector workers of their collective bargaining rights. They have been missing from the Capitol for a day and a half.


Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 16:08:08
Quote by Raine:
Good lord. Wisconsin is getting ugly. and it isn't those damn union thugs.


Wis. GOP sends state troopers after Democratic senate leader

GOP Wis. Senate leader says State Patrol sent to minority leader's home to return him for vote
MADISON, Wis. - Republicans in the Wisconsin state Senate have asked the governor to send state troopers after Democratic leader Mark Miller.

Senate Democrats are boycotting a Senate vote on a bill that would strip public sector workers of their collective bargaining rights. They have been missing from the Capitol for a day and a half.
This was mentioned in the blog. I feel a little stupid now.

I thought it was just a threat when I read the blog, Sorry Bobber. I would delete it, but that would not be nice.


Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 16:28:32
I love the courage this took to say on the floor of the house.


Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) shattered that bubble on the House floor as the debate to defund Planned Parenthood neared its third hour. Speier planned to speak on a different topic but when Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ) read a lengthy account of an abortion procedure in graphic and gruesome detail and described it as “child abuse,” Speier confronted his “preposterous” ignorance with an intimate revelation — she had to have an abortion:

SPEIER: You know I had really planned to speak about something else. But the gentleman from New Jersey just put my stomach in knots. Because I am one of those woman he spoke about just now. I had a procedure at 17 weeks, pregnant with a child that had moved from the vagina into the cervix. And that procedure that you just talked about is a procedure I endured. I lost a baby. But for you to stand on this floor and suggest as you have that somehow this is a procedure that is either welcomed or done cavalierly or done without any thought is preposterous. To think that we are here tonight debating this issue, while the American people, if they are listening, are scratching their heads and wondering “what does this have to do with me getting a job? What does this have to do with reducing the deficit?” The answer is nothing at all.


Comment by Scoopster on 02/18/2011 16:33:41
It's not gonna do any good to send Daddy McNepotism's thugs the state patrol after them.. they left the state!

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2011 16:39:55
Okay when did calaphate become a word we all use? I've heard it a bunch of times this week

Comment by Scoopster on 02/18/2011 16:41:08
Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 16:41:59
That is right. A lie is NOT an opinion. If you are on twitter, follow @StopBeck

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 16:42:22
Quote by wickedpam:
Okay when did calaphate become a word we all use? I've heard it a bunch of times this week

When glenn beck googled it.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2011 16:47:28
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Okay when did calaphate become a word we all use? I've heard it a bunch of times this week

When glenn beck googled it.



oh lord - I missed something - why did he google it?

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 16:53:18
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Okay when did calaphate become a word we all use? I've heard it a bunch of times this week

When glenn beck googled it.



oh lord - I missed something - why did he google it?
Fear. (why else?) Here is what it means.


Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 16:57:04
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Okay when did calaphate become a word we all use? I've heard it a bunch of times this week

When glenn beck googled it.



oh lord - I missed something - why did he google it?
Fear. (why else?) Here is what it means.


HEre is something else that is mighty interesting.
Glenn Beck had added Google a growing list of nefarious organizations "may or may not" be part of a vast conspiracy to create a one world Islamic government.


Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 17:02:58
I have a serious question, for all those people that showed up for the one nation rally -- does anyone think it is possible to get some of those groups to rally and show up in Wisconsin?

Comment by livingonli on 02/18/2011 17:04:39
Good day folks.

Spent the morning with Kittie in bed.

Comment by Scoopster on 02/18/2011 17:14:22
Quote by Raine:
I have a serious question, for all those people that showed up for the one nation rally -- does anyone think it is possible to get some of those groups to rally and show up in Wisconsin?

As far as I can tell the unions (NEA, IFT, AFL-CIO, and ASFCME among others) are already involved since they're directly affected and Organizing for America has boots on the ground too. I'm not sure if unaffected unions are offering their support but I'm guessing they are in some form. And I'm not sure if the NAACP is gonna get involved or not, but it'd kick some ass if they did!

Oh yeah I almost forgot.. the unionized state police, aside from Walker's new pet leader and direct administration, and are standing with the protest.

Comment by Raine on 02/18/2011 17:19:14
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
I have a serious question, for all those people that showed up for the one nation rally -- does anyone think it is possible to get some of those groups to rally and show up in Wisconsin?

As far as I can tell the unions (NEA, IFT, AFL-CIO, and ASFCME among others) are already involved since they're directly affected and Organizing for America has boots on the ground too. I'm not sure if unaffected unions are offering their support but I'm guessing they are in some form. And I'm not sure if the NAACP is gonna get involved or not, but it'd kick some ass if they did!

Oh yeah I almost forgot.. the unionized state police, aside from Walker's new pet leader and direct administration, and are standing with the protest.
If I hear about busses going to Wisconsin, I'm there. Already talked to Bobber about this.




Comment by livingonli on 02/18/2011 17:20:10
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
DID I hear that right? John Boehner is saying the DEMS are threatening to shut down the government? WTF!!!



yes, yes you did - remember they catapult the propoganda

Continuing the projection strategy of the Bush years of putting their flaws and underhanded tactics as those of their opponent,

Comment by livingonli on 02/18/2011 17:25:21
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Okay when did calaphate become a word we all use? I've heard it a bunch of times this week

When glenn beck googled it.



oh lord - I missed something - why did he google it?
Fear. (why else?) Here is what it means.


HEre is something else that is mighty interesting.
Glenn Beck had added Google a growing list of nefarious organizations "may or may not" be part of a vast conspiracy to create a one world Islamic government.

Sounds like rehashing the Bircher-far right propaganda although in those the one world government is still run by the Jews. Now we should explain that it can still be considered anti-Semitic.

Comment by livingonli on 02/18/2011 17:27:51
Robert Reich's been on Thom Hartmann's show.

Comment by wickedpam on 02/18/2011 17:30:49
oh lord, why is crazy so contagious?

cause its related to fear and panic I guess...