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Not All About You
Author: Raine
Date: 08/29/2011 13:12:31
Thursday I wrote a blog, Life is Fragile, Handle with Care and since then most regular members of the this blog experienced something we call Irene. It may have been a hurricane or tropical storm.
Lost in thought over the weekend was the Anniversary of Katrina- one of the nations most expensive deadly and mismanaged disasters. On August 29, 2005, after the brunt of the storm hit, the Greater New Orleans levee system failed. 80% of the city was underwater. Please note-- this was AFTER the hurricane hit the New Orleans area.
I mention this because I have been reading a small but consistent murmur that Irene storm was over-hyped. A big brunt of it came from Howard Kurtz, WaPo's media critic and Host of CNN's "Reliable Sources". Brad Freidman had a very good response to Kurtz' column yesterday: He goes on, but you get the gist of it. Perhaps someone should remind what Mr. Kurtz tweeted last July after a severe DC power outage "Day 4, no power--shouldn't Obama call in Pepco CEO like he did Tony Heyward? The capital is crippled. This isn't change I can beileve in." (that wasn't a typo, btw.)
There is something to be said about the stupidity of many reporters and that can be a blog for another day. That said, I believe saying this storm was over-hyped is wrong. Just because you and I didn't have a disaster at our doorstep should not make the severity of the warning from officials any less valid. I am fairly convinced that many many lives were saved because of the warnings. As much as I personally despise the guy, Governor Chris Christie may very well have assisted in saving countless lives along the coast of NJ. What we saw with Irene was how governments on the Federal State and Local levels are supposed to work to ensure the safety and security of its citizens. There are causalities, and there possibly be more, but considering this: Over 65 Million people were and still are being affected.
As I wrote last Thursday, after the East Coast Earth quake, "This was not Katrina, nor was it a terror attack, I hope people understand that I am not trying to conflate the two things. Nothing really can compare to them, but the feelings that are left are real. There's nothing wrong with feeling them. I know the west coast is used to earthquakes, but many of us from DC and NYC became sensitive to something very different on September 11, 2001. The Gulf coast experienced something else six years ago this week. It was a far different situation, but I suspect they too had their psyche forever altered.
There are still scars. We may not all share the same experiences as each other, but I would hope we would try to be mindful of our fellow humans. For some, this was just an earthquake, for others it was a reminder of something else. As one person said, life is fragile, handle with care. " I believe that even more today. Irene may not have been the Katrina of the east coast, but try telling that to the people of Upstate NY, Massachusetts and Vermont. It wasn't the levees that broke, and thank god it wasn't such a loss of life, but they are devastated right now. Their devastation is real.
My friend Tom (@tlw3 on twitter) wrote this yesterday: There was this from our friend Lizz:That same sentiment goes for the summer workers all along the east coast.
The next time a catastrophe doesn't happen to you, take a moment and think about other people. Then count your blessings. Sometimes it isn't all about you. My prayers go out to the people suffering the effects of Irene and those still struggling to recover from Katrina.
and 
Raine
Lost in thought over the weekend was the Anniversary of Katrina- one of the nations most expensive deadly and mismanaged disasters. On August 29, 2005, after the brunt of the storm hit, the Greater New Orleans levee system failed. 80% of the city was underwater. Please note-- this was AFTER the hurricane hit the New Orleans area.
I mention this because I have been reading a small but consistent murmur that Irene storm was over-hyped. A big brunt of it came from Howard Kurtz, WaPo's media critic and Host of CNN's "Reliable Sources". Brad Freidman had a very good response to Kurtz' column yesterday:
Setting aside that at this time following 2005's Hurricane Katrina --- the morning after --- most in the media were breathing a sigh of relief that New Orleans had "dodged a bullet", one wonders if the folks in Wilmington, Vermont today...or in the Catskills of New York are inclined to agree with insightful media critic Howard Kurtz' assessment that Irene amounted to little more than "A Hurricane of Hype":Um, surely Howard knows that category rankings for hurricanes refer to wind speed and velocity, not the amount of moisture in the storm or the possibilities of life-threatening floods that may accompany it, along with the storm surge to follow, right? Surely he has many reliable sources that have explained that to him by now, doesn't he?National news organizations morphed into local eyewitness-news operations, going wall to wall for days with dire warnings about what would turn out to be a Category 1 hurricane, the lowest possible ranking.Dunno, Howard. Would a storm bearing down on Ft. Lauderdale have some 65 million people in its path, as Irene had? Please, Howard, have some apples with your oranges...Does anyone seriously believe the hurricane would have drawn the same level of coverage if it had been bearing down on, say, Ft. Lauderdale?
There is something to be said about the stupidity of many reporters and that can be a blog for another day. That said, I believe saying this storm was over-hyped is wrong. Just because you and I didn't have a disaster at our doorstep should not make the severity of the warning from officials any less valid. I am fairly convinced that many many lives were saved because of the warnings. As much as I personally despise the guy, Governor Chris Christie may very well have assisted in saving countless lives along the coast of NJ. What we saw with Irene was how governments on the Federal State and Local levels are supposed to work to ensure the safety and security of its citizens. There are causalities, and there possibly be more, but considering this: Over 65 Million people were and still are being affected.
As I wrote last Thursday, after the East Coast Earth quake, "This was not Katrina, nor was it a terror attack, I hope people understand that I am not trying to conflate the two things. Nothing really can compare to them, but the feelings that are left are real. There's nothing wrong with feeling them. I know the west coast is used to earthquakes, but many of us from DC and NYC became sensitive to something very different on September 11, 2001. The Gulf coast experienced something else six years ago this week. It was a far different situation, but I suspect they too had their psyche forever altered.
There are still scars. We may not all share the same experiences as each other, but I would hope we would try to be mindful of our fellow humans. For some, this was just an earthquake, for others it was a reminder of something else. As one person said, life is fragile, handle with care. " I believe that even more today. Irene may not have been the Katrina of the east coast, but try telling that to the people of Upstate NY, Massachusetts and Vermont. It wasn't the levees that broke, and thank god it wasn't such a loss of life, but they are devastated right now. Their devastation is real.
My friend Tom (@tlw3 on twitter) wrote this yesterday:
Instead of complaining about the hype, be thankful you and your property are safe, if that's the case. A lot of people DID lose power and property due to this storm. Tell THEM it was all hype. If you bought supplies just for this storm, secure them away as insurance for the next.
My fellow New Yorkers: I have been talking to a lot of friends who's apartments had major water damage and their horrible landlords are absentee. When you are broke and your stuff gets wrecked and all the sudden you have mold and a whole host of other problems, it is a BIG deal. The city may not have been destroyed but life was made a lot harder for a lot of people barely getting by already. Don't get too smug. The stink of privilege is a turn off.
The next time a catastrophe doesn't happen to you, take a moment and think about other people. Then count your blessings. Sometimes it isn't all about you. My prayers go out to the people suffering the effects of Irene and those still struggling to recover from Katrina.
and Raine
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Comment by 
Raine on 08/29/2011 13:15:27
Raine on 08/29/2011 13:15:27
Mala: 
thank you for posting a blog stub this morning!
good morning!
thank you for posting a blog stub this morning! good morning!
Comment by 
wickedpam on 08/29/2011 13:29:14
wickedpam on 08/29/2011 13:29:14
Your welcome 
Morning all
Sadly, back at work.
Morning all
Sadly, back at work.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 13:43:38
Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 13:43:38
Well said, Raine. When last I spoke with her, Momma Mondo and Madison the dog were without power. Which, considering she is about 60-75 miles in from the North Carolina coast isn't too bad. No ETR on the power sitch though. Those who aren't on city power like her already have service.
Comment by Raine on 08/29/2011 13:46:55
I am glad to hear this, Mondo!
Hows your dad doing?
Raine on 08/29/2011 13:46:55
Quote by Mondobubba:
Well said, Raine. When last I spoke with her, Momma Mondo and Madison the dog were without power. Which, considering she is about 60-75 miles in from the North Carolina coast isn't too bad. No ETR on the power sitch though. Those who aren't on city power like her already have service.
I am glad to hear this, Mondo!
Hows your dad doing?
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 13:49:15
Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 13:49:15
Folklorist and neighbor Stetson Kennedy has died.
Okay he's not a down my block neighbor, but his place was just down the main drag from me. The hospital where he spent his last days is is maybe an eighth of a mile from my office.
Okay he's not a down my block neighbor, but his place was just down the main drag from me. The hospital where he spent his last days is is maybe an eighth of a mile from my office.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 13:49:52
Grumpy, cranky. Which is to say normal.
Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 13:49:52
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Well said, Raine. When last I spoke with her, Momma Mondo and Madison the dog were without power. Which, considering she is about 60-75 miles in from the North Carolina coast isn't too bad. No ETR on the power sitch though. Those who aren't on city power like her already have service.
I am glad to hear this, Mondo!
Hows your dad doing?
Grumpy, cranky. Which is to say normal.
Comment by 
TriSec on 08/29/2011 14:09:24
TriSec on 08/29/2011 14:09:24
Morning, folks.
We were without power for 12 hours yesterday...a tree split and took out the main line on Lyman Street. But all is well now.
Side note....while we didn't get much of anything in Eastern Mass, Western Mass, Vermont, and much of the Hudson Valley got hammered. There was at least one dam breach, and a 9-mile stretch of I-91 north of Springfield is currently closed due to flooding. They are expecting it to get worse before it gets better.
So, I can be a typical New Englander and say "all sizzle, no steak", but for the sake of 150 miles, who knows what would be happening here now?
(And it's not a Saturday am, but if you can donate blood, platelets, or money to the Red Cross...DO IT!!)
We were without power for 12 hours yesterday...a tree split and took out the main line on Lyman Street. But all is well now.
Side note....while we didn't get much of anything in Eastern Mass, Western Mass, Vermont, and much of the Hudson Valley got hammered. There was at least one dam breach, and a 9-mile stretch of I-91 north of Springfield is currently closed due to flooding. They are expecting it to get worse before it gets better.
So, I can be a typical New Englander and say "all sizzle, no steak", but for the sake of 150 miles, who knows what would be happening here now?
(And it's not a Saturday am, but if you can donate blood, platelets, or money to the Red Cross...DO IT!!)
Comment by Raine on 08/29/2011 14:31:28
Raine on 08/29/2011 14:31:28
If you go over to WNYT and WTEN on Facebook, the pictures that people are posting are stunning.
Still waiting to here if the Damn in Montpelier has busted.
Still waiting to here if the Damn in Montpelier has busted.
Comment by Raine on 08/29/2011 14:47:39
Raine on 08/29/2011 14:47:39
It's so scary to look at those pictures, I have been to so many of those places.
We were so fortunate here in DC.
We were so fortunate here in DC.
Comment by Raine on 08/29/2011 15:01:48
Raine on 08/29/2011 15:01:48
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 15:02:12
DC was pretty lucky. So was my mom. I need to check in on my Richmond dwelling cousin.
Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 15:02:12
Quote by Raine:
It's so scary to look at those pictures, I have been to so many of those places.
We were so fortunate here in DC.
DC was pretty lucky. So was my mom. I need to check in on my Richmond dwelling cousin.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 15:05:15
Based on the simple fact that the eye of Irene passed over Coney Island and Central Park, then no New York didn't dodge a bullet. This is what a relativly strong cat 1 hurricane then down graded to a tropical storm can do.
Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 15:05:15
Quote by Raine:
No, I would say that NY did not dodge a bullet.
Based on the simple fact that the eye of Irene passed over Coney Island and Central Park, then no New York didn't dodge a bullet. This is what a relativly strong cat 1 hurricane then down graded to a tropical storm can do.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/29/2011 15:24:07
catching up on work
I do feel bad for the areas that go hit hard with the storm. I wish them all well, but Manassas peeps, really, did you think we were actually going to flood and get hit with the worst? Really? We're on a hill and we're not near the coast.
wickedpam on 08/29/2011 15:24:07
catching up on work
I do feel bad for the areas that go hit hard with the storm. I wish them all well, but Manassas peeps, really, did you think we were actually going to flood and get hit with the worst? Really? We're on a hill and we're not near the coast.
Comment by Raine on 08/29/2011 15:32:28
And that is why it is important to maintain a sense of balance.
Raine on 08/29/2011 15:32:28
Quote by wickedpam:
catching up on work
I do feel bad for the areas that go hit hard with the storm. I wish them all well, but Manassas peeps, really, did you think we were actually going to flood and get hit with the worst? Really? We're on a hill and we're not near the coast.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/29/2011 15:36:50
exactly.
I'm still surprised you guys didn't loose power - heck someone sneezes down there and you loose power, but a TS/Hurricane its all good
wickedpam on 08/29/2011 15:36:50
Quote by Raine:And that is why it is important to maintain a sense of balance.Quote by wickedpam:
catching up on work
I do feel bad for the areas that go hit hard with the storm. I wish them all well, but Manassas peeps, really, did you think we were actually going to flood and get hit with the worst? Really? We're on a hill and we're not near the coast.
exactly.
I'm still surprised you guys didn't loose power - heck someone sneezes down there and you loose power, but a TS/Hurricane its all good
Comment by Raine on 08/29/2011 15:51:46
Believe me, IWas shocked to wake up to electric as well.
the good thing is that when we DO lose power, Dominion seems to be right on top of it.
Of course, the jaded part of me believes that it has to do with the fact that the Mayor lives a few blocks away....
Raine on 08/29/2011 15:51:46
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:And that is why it is important to maintain a sense of balance.Quote by wickedpam:
catching up on work
I do feel bad for the areas that go hit hard with the storm. I wish them all well, but Manassas peeps, really, did you think we were actually going to flood and get hit with the worst? Really? We're on a hill and we're not near the coast.
exactly.
I'm still surprised you guys didn't loose power - heck someone sneezes down there and you loose power, but a TS/Hurricane its all good
the good thing is that when we DO lose power, Dominion seems to be right on top of it.
Of course, the jaded part of me believes that it has to do with the fact that the Mayor lives a few blocks away....
Comment by wickedpam on 08/29/2011 15:58:21
It doesn't hurt
wickedpam on 08/29/2011 15:58:21
Quote by Raine:Believe me, IWas shocked to wake up to electric as well.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:And that is why it is important to maintain a sense of balance.Quote by wickedpam:
catching up on work
I do feel bad for the areas that go hit hard with the storm. I wish them all well, but Manassas peeps, really, did you think we were actually going to flood and get hit with the worst? Really? We're on a hill and we're not near the coast.
exactly.
I'm still surprised you guys didn't loose power - heck someone sneezes down there and you loose power, but a TS/Hurricane its all good
the good thing is that when we DO lose power, Dominion seems to be right on top of it.
Of course, the jaded part of me believes that it has to do with the fact that the Mayor lives a few blocks away....
It doesn't hurt
Comment by 
BobR on 08/29/2011 16:08:17
on the other hand, plenty of people in upstate NY may have thought the same thing.
BobR on 08/29/2011 16:08:17
Quote by wickedpam:
catching up on work
I do feel bad for the areas that go hit hard with the storm. I wish them all well, but Manassas peeps, really, did you think we were actually going to flood and get hit with the worst? Really? We're on a hill and we're not near the coast.
on the other hand, plenty of people in upstate NY may have thought the same thing.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/29/2011 16:19:03
very true - but I think this is a different kinda of storm then they are used to. THough not knowing the area I'm not sure.
wickedpam on 08/29/2011 16:19:03
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
catching up on work
I do feel bad for the areas that go hit hard with the storm. I wish them all well, but Manassas peeps, really, did you think we were actually going to flood and get hit with the worst? Really? We're on a hill and we're not near the coast.
on the other hand, plenty of people in upstate NY may have thought the same thing.
very true - but I think this is a different kinda of storm then they are used to. THough not knowing the area I'm not sure.
Comment by Raine on 08/29/2011 16:25:35
Raine on 08/29/2011 16:25:35
Comment by 
livingonli on 08/29/2011 16:56:46
livingonli on 08/29/2011 16:56:46
Good day everyone. Still recovering from my 31 hours camped out at work but at least I had power when I came home. About 20% of the homes on Long Island were without power last night and I do remember when my sisters were without power for a week following Gloria.
Comment by Raine on 08/29/2011 17:15:01
Raine on 08/29/2011 17:15:01
Comment by Raine on 08/29/2011 17:15:38
Glad you made it through ok, Liv.
Are you off today?
Raine on 08/29/2011 17:15:38
Quote by livingonli:
Good day everyone. Still recovering from my 31 hours camped out at work but at least I had power when I came home. About 20% of the homes on Long Island were without power last night and I do remember when my sisters were without power for a week following Gloria.
Are you off today?
Comment by livingonli on 08/29/2011 17:19:48
I have my regular shift today and I am off Tuesday and Wednesday this week.
livingonli on 08/29/2011 17:19:48
Quote by Raine:Glad you made it through ok, Liv.Quote by livingonli:
Good day everyone. Still recovering from my 31 hours camped out at work but at least I had power when I came home. About 20% of the homes on Long Island were without power last night and I do remember when my sisters were without power for a week following Gloria.
Are you off today?
I have my regular shift today and I am off Tuesday and Wednesday this week.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 17:30:02
:Dieter: I am as happy as a little girl! :Kraftwerk:
Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 17:30:02
Quote by Raine:
Mythbuster fiends:
'Mythbusters' premiere date, myth list announced
:Dieter: I am as happy as a little girl! :Kraftwerk:
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 17:39:34
Ya know if he was on death row this being Texas, they would have hooked him up to the IV and let it go. I kid Texas! No, I don't I wouldn't put it past them to do this.
My favorite sentence from the article, "The Powledge Unit is one of the smaller facilities in the Texas prison system, housing just under 1,000 inmates." I guess that thing really are bigger in Texas.
Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 17:39:34
Quote by Raine:
Warren Jeffs in a coma. May not survive
Ya know if he was on death row this being Texas, they would have hooked him up to the IV and let it go. I kid Texas! No, I don't I wouldn't put it past them to do this.
My favorite sentence from the article, "The Powledge Unit is one of the smaller facilities in the Texas prison system, housing just under 1,000 inmates." I guess that thing really are bigger in Texas.
Comment by Raine on 08/29/2011 18:00:52
Michelle Bachmann.
Clearly, she like all other politicians, are NOT Americans.
Raine on 08/29/2011 18:00:52
“I don’t know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We’ve had an earthquake; we’ve had a hurricane. He said, ‘Are you going to start listening to me here?’ Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we’ve got to rein in the spending.â€
Michelle Bachmann.
Clearly, she like all other politicians, are NOT Americans.
Comment by Raine on 08/29/2011 18:02:10
Raine on 08/29/2011 18:02:10
of course she is speaking of that famous member of Oompastan, John Boehner, she could not possibly be talking about that Kenyan, Obama.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 18:13:58
Dear Mrs. Bachmann,
God Here. Yes The God, Yaweh to some of my followers. Let me explain something. I made the world and all that, but once I was finished I stepped back and put my sandaled feet up. Do you know how tiring the creating thing is? I guess not. Anyway, since I created the universe and all that is in it, this include all the science-y stuff too. Eathquakes and hurricanes aren't me being pissed off at you guys. They are part of that science-y stuff that other, non-crazy people are trying to figure out. By figuring out the science-y stuff they are actually honoring me. Got it? BTW, Michele, may I call you Michele? Those voices you hear in your head and attibute to Me? Not so much. That is part of the science-y stuff, it's call scizophrinia. Look it up.
Yours Truly.
God
p.s. Oh least I forgot since I am omniscient, you aren't going to win. Please drop out of the presidental race
Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 18:13:58
Quote by Raine:“I don’t know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We’ve had an earthquake; we’ve had a hurricane. He said, ‘Are you going to start listening to me here?’ Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we’ve got to rein in the spending.â€Â
Michelle Bachmann.
Clearly, she like all other politicians, are NOT Americans.
Dear Mrs. Bachmann,
God Here. Yes The God, Yaweh to some of my followers. Let me explain something. I made the world and all that, but once I was finished I stepped back and put my sandaled feet up. Do you know how tiring the creating thing is? I guess not. Anyway, since I created the universe and all that is in it, this include all the science-y stuff too. Eathquakes and hurricanes aren't me being pissed off at you guys. They are part of that science-y stuff that other, non-crazy people are trying to figure out. By figuring out the science-y stuff they are actually honoring me. Got it? BTW, Michele, may I call you Michele? Those voices you hear in your head and attibute to Me? Not so much. That is part of the science-y stuff, it's call scizophrinia. Look it up.
Yours Truly.
God
p.s. Oh least I forgot since I am omniscient, you aren't going to win. Please drop out of the presidental race
Comment by livingonli on 08/29/2011 18:51:07
If God worked the way she thought, she would be struck by lightning for all the lies that she has told.
livingonli on 08/29/2011 18:51:07
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:“I don’t know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We’ve had an earthquake; we’ve had a hurricane. He said, ‘Are you going to start listening to me here?’ Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we’ve got to rein in the spending.â€Â
Michelle Bachmann.
Clearly, she like all other politicians, are NOT Americans.
Dear Mrs. Bachmann,
God Here. Yes The God, Yaweh to some of my followers. Let me explain something. I made the world and all that, but once I was finished I stepped back and put my sandaled feet up. Do you know how tiring the creating thing is? I guess not. Anyway, since I created the universe and all that is in it, this include all the science-y stuff too. Eathquakes and hurricanes aren't me being pissed off at you guys. They are part of that science-y stuff that other, non-crazy people are trying to figure out. By figuring out the science-y stuff they are actually honoring me. Got it? BTW, Michele, may I call you Michele? Those voices you hear in your head and attibute to Me? Not so much. That is part of the science-y stuff, it's call scizophrinia. Look it up.
Yours Truly.
God
p.s. Oh least I forgot since I am omniscient, you aren't going to win. Please drop out of the presidental race
If God worked the way she thought, she would be struck by lightning for all the lies that she has told.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 19:30:23
Mondobubba on 08/29/2011 19:30:23
Bobber, remember that blog you wrote about the ombudsman? Here is nice, snarky comment about them, "Pexton, like most newspaper ombudsmen, is a doddering scold with a poor grasp of the complexities of the contemporary media landscape." This is from the poison tipped pen of Alex Pareene in Salon.
Comment by BobR on 08/29/2011 23:07:54
Actually, it was Raine that wrote the ombudsman blog.
BobR on 08/29/2011 23:07:54
Quote by Mondobubba:
Bobber, remember that blog you wrote about the ombudsman? Here is nice, snarky comment about them, "Pexton, like most newspaper ombudsmen, is a doddering scold with a poor grasp of the complexities of the contemporary media landscape." This is from the poison tipped pen of Alex Pareene in Salon.
Actually, it was Raine that wrote the ombudsman blog.
Comment by TriSec on 08/30/2011 00:23:30
TriSec on 08/30/2011 00:23:30
Hey gang. Back after a triumphant day (check FB for photos)
We summitted Mt Wachusett, then I got 2 hours out of a Hoya de Monterey, with some whiskey and a visit from the ice cream truck.
Not a bad cap to a few days off. Alas,. it's back to work tomorrow.
We summitted Mt Wachusett, then I got 2 hours out of a Hoya de Monterey, with some whiskey and a visit from the ice cream truck.
Not a bad cap to a few days off. Alas,. it's back to work tomorrow.
Comment by TriSec on 08/30/2011 00:30:29
I've got one...any spoon dropped in the sink will land bowl-side up under the water spigot no matter where it is placed, spraying water in all directions. I know the already did the buttered-side up toast thing a few seasons ago.
And also, a TriSec myth....no matter what pan you need t cook dinner, it is always in the dishwasher. No, it hasn't been run.
TriSec on 08/30/2011 00:30:29
Quote by Raine:
Mythbuster fiends:
'Mythbusters' premiere date, myth list announced
I've got one...any spoon dropped in the sink will land bowl-side up under the water spigot no matter where it is placed, spraying water in all directions. I know the already did the buttered-side up toast thing a few seasons ago.
And also, a TriSec myth....no matter what pan you need t cook dinner, it is always in the dishwasher. No, it hasn't been run.