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I'm Sorry, Rush / Rush, I'm sorry
Author: Raine    Date: 03/05/2012 15:30:09

“It’s in his best interest, that’s why he did it,” Paul said. “I don’t think he’s very apologetic. He’s doing it because some people were taking advertisements from his program. It was his bottom line he was concerned about.”
Inspired and nuanced analysis from Ron Paul on the apology from Rush Limbaugh on Saturday. The apology came after 6 sponsors stated that they would no longer advertise on his show. Late yesterday, ProFlowers became #7.

For those that missed the entire apology, here it is:
"For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week. In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation. I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke.

I think it is absolutely absurd that during these very serious political times, we are discussing personal sexual recreational activities before members of Congress. I personally do not agree that American citizens should pay for these social activities. What happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Where do we draw the line? If this is accepted as the norm, what will follow? Will we be debating if taxpayers should pay for new sneakers for all students that are interested in running to keep fit? In my monologue, I posited that it is not our business whatsoever to know what is going on in anyone’s bedroom nor do I think it is a topic that should reach a Presidential level.

My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices
This statement, made on saturday was oft truncated as thus: "For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week. In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation. I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke... My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices."

The media ran with the meme that he apologized for calling Ms. Fluke a 'slut' and a 'prostitute'. Lost in the discussion was something equally, if not more, egregious. Lost was not only that Limbaugh carried on with this attack on a private citizen for days, but he also called upon women-- note: plural, as in more than just Ms. Fluke.
So Miss Fluke, and the rest of you Feminazis, here’s the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex. We want something for it. We want you post the videos online so we can all watch.

Essentialy, this was an act of sexual solicitation. It wasn't satire, and it was not humorous. It was misogynistic and sexist -- and sadly something that isn't new coming from this corner of the radio-verse.

After Limabugh made his comments, we got a stern finger wagging from Speaker of the Republican-led House stating that his comments were innapropriate. In meeting my personal low expectations from the likes of this GOP leadership, there was the ever present qualifier: “The Speaker obviously believes the use of those words was inappropriate, as is trying to raise money off the situation,” The problem with that is that the GOP has been raising money off of this controversy as well.
The Huffington Post reported Thursday that Democrats raised at least $1.1 million this week as part of their “War on Women” campaign.

But Republicans have also used the controversy to solicit money.

“In a country founded on religious liberty, Democrats have now done the unthinkable,” wrote Guy Harrison, the executive director of the National Republican Congressional Committee, in a February fundraising e-mail. “Democrats have inserted themselves into your healthcare and now they want to insert their values into your religion."
Do as I say, not as I do should be the motto of the modern GOP. George Will put a finer point to this debacle saying:
Will was specifically not pleased with House Speaker John Boehner’s and presidential candidate Rick Santorum’s response to Limbaugh’s comments, telling the This Week panel that conservative leaders need to ‘police their own kind.’

“It was depressing because what it indicates is that Republicans leaders are afraid of Rush Limbaugh,” he said. “They want to bomb Iran, but they’re afraid of Rush Limbaugh.”
He's spot on, from Santorum to Romeny and even Newt Gingrich -- he is correct. Take a look at their reactions, here. Santorum thinks it's all just entertainment, and Mitt didn't like how it was said... All three advocate military action with Iran.

Newt Gingrich said Iran 'should expect to get hit'. When speaking of Rush, he stated
“I think he was right to apologize,” Gingrich told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos in an interview on “This Week.”
....
“But let’s talk about apologies for a second,” Gingrich said. “I think the president was totally wrong as commander-in-chief to apologize to religious fanatics while our young men are being killed in Afghanistan, and I think it was a disaster of an apology. . . .You have the U.N. commissioner to Afghanistan in essence saying, since the president has admitted the United States is guilty, these people should be tried.”
He's ridiculed the media for the controversy, going so far as to declare that Rush isn't a spokesperson for the Republican party. He's right, Rush isn't a spokesperson for the party. He IS the Republican party. It might be easy to forget all the personal apologies Republican leaders and representatives have made to him over the years. There was even a website for the number of apologies made TO Rush.
Rush, Our Leader
Republicans who've dared to criticize Rush only to beg for his forgiveness:


RNC Chairman Michael Steele: Rush is not the head of the Republican Party. He's an "entertainer" whose show is "incendiary" and "ugly."
I'm Sorry, Rush
"My intent was not to go after Rush - I have enormous respect for Rush Limbaugh..."

"I was maybe a little bit inarticulate... There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership."

"I went back at that tape and I realized words that I said weren't what I was thinking..."


Congressman Phil Gingrey (R-GA): "I mean, it's easy if you're Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh or even sometimes Newt Gingrich to stand back and throw bricks. You don't have to try to do what's best for your people and your party. "
I'm Sorry, Rush
"I clearly ended up putting my foot in my mouth on some of those comments and I just wanted to tell you, Rush, [...] that I regret those stupid comments."


Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC):"Anybody who wants [President Obama] to fail is an idiot, because it means we're all in trouble..."
I'm Sorry, Rush
Sanford's Communications Director, said that "the governor was not referring to anyone" in particular.
I'm sure there are more apologies. Rush Limbaugh IS the face of the Republican party. When Newt Gingrich and others try to distance themselves from this albatross, remember it was NEWT who was the Speaker of the House in 1994, when Limbaugh was made an honorary member of the Republican caucus.
Mr. Limbaugh was made an honorary member of the class as its members tonight finished a three-day orientation here sponsored by the Heritage Foundation and Empower America, two conservative Washington research organizations.

Barbara Cubin, an incoming freshman from Wyoming, told Mr. Limbaugh that because 74 percent of the nation's newspapers had endorsed Democrats, "talk radio, with you in the lead, is what turned the tide." On behalf of the women in the class, she gave him a plaque that said, "Rush Was Right." He also received a pin like the ones the freshmen wore, saying, "Majority Maker."

"Rush is as responsible for what happened here as much as anyone," said Vin Weber, a former Representative from Minnesota, now of Empower America. Citing a poll taken after the election by Frank Luntz, a Republican pollster, Mr. Weber said that people who listened to 10 hours or more a week of talk radio voted Republican by a 3-to-1 margin. "Those are the people who elected the new Congress," he said.
It's no wonder the best that Boehner could say was that Limbaugh was inappropriate. Rush IS the Republican party -- more than they want Americans to know. Rush has been more than happy to be the face of the GOP and the conservative movement for decades. He's done this by sharing the same views as the most extreme and far right views of the party. They have embraced it -- and will continue to do so as long as there is a market for his hateful speech. Rush has long been the water carrier for this party
There have been a bunch of things going on in Congress, some of this legislation coming out of there that I have just cringed at, and it has been difficult coming in here, trying to make the case for it when the people who are supposedly in favor of it can’t even make the case themselves — and to have to come in here and try to do their jobs. I’m a radio guy! I understand what this program has become in America and I understand the leadership position it has. I was doing what I thought best, but at this point, people who don’t deserve to have their water carried, or have themselves explained as they would like to say things but somehow aren’t able to, I’m not under that kind of pressure.


What happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Where do we draw the line?


Well, the line is drawn. It wasn't drawn by the very people who created this vitriolic environment, but it has been drawn. Rush is now under that kind of pressure.

and
Raine

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Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2012 13:59:28
Morning

Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2012 14:07:57
Looks like Steph is going to be on Current too :)

do they stream live?

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/05/2012 14:12:08
Mumph? Steph on the TV mosheen? When?

Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2012 14:14:15
Quote by Mondobubba:
Mumph? Steph on the TV mosheen? When?



sometime soon on Current in the AM

Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2012 14:15:41
Comment by BobR on 03/05/2012 14:20:15

You have to have "an account" to be able to sign the petition?? Lame...

Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2012 14:26:58
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Mumph? Steph on the TV mosheen? When?



sometime soon on Current in the AM

Uhoh.. no more sweatpants and bunny flip flops!

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/05/2012 14:35:23
Quote by BobR:

You have to have "an account" to be able to sign the petition?? Lame...



Whitehouse website fail.

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 16:03:05
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by BobR:

You have to have "an account" to be able to sign the petition?? Lame...



Whitehouse website fail.
This might be why:
The White House may disable user accounts, remove associated signatures and remove petitions created or signed by user accounts that it has reasonable belief do not satisfy the above rules. The White House may also block access from IP addresses that it has reasonable belief are using automated systems or bulk processes to create multiple user accounts or petition signatures.




Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 16:05:40
BTW, The blog is up.

Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2012 16:20:13
Heard this from a friend out in Wisconsin.. apparently Mike Huckabee's radio show will be starting up soon in several markets and will be REPLACING Rush Limbaugh in some cases. Apparently some of the local advertisers there were already planning to dump Limbaugh to save some money on ad costs in exchange for space during Huckabee's show.

Not sure what to make of this..

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 16:21:58
Quote by Scoopster:
Heard this from a friend out in Wisconsin.. apparently Mike Huckabee's radio show will be starting up soon in several markets and will be REPLACING Rush Limbaugh in some cases. Apparently some of the local advertisers there were already planning to dump Limbaugh to save some money on ad costs in exchange for space during Huckabee's show.

Not sure what to make of this..
The local advertisers are the ones that smaller radio markets should be concerned with in my opinion.


Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 16:29:47
You know, I love Think Progress.

If the blog wasn't so long already I would add this.
A review of Limbaugh’s rhetoric, which is littered with misogynistic language, shows that there is reason to be skeptical of his remorse.


RUSH: I had a Barbie doll once, Cheryl, and you’d pull the string on the back, “Math class is tough.” You know the stereotype. I was just making a stereotypical joke.

CALLER: Oh, my goodness, I can’t believe you said that. I really can’t. We laugh at you all the time, but that was not funny. That was degrading to some women. [...]

CALLER: Okay. Do you apologize to the women? (Laughing.)

RUSH: Well, you know, Cheryl, I have to tell you, Cheryl is one of my all-time top-ten female names, and I hope that I can salvage your loyalty here as an audience member. I’m not going to apologize. People in my position never apologize. But we just acknowledge that you were upset and offended by it. I’ll apologize you were offended.

CALLER: Okay.

RUSH: But I’m not going to apologize for saying it. I meant to say it. Why would I apologize for something I meant to say? It was a joke.

CALLER: Okay. I guess. Okay.




Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 16:43:40
Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2012 17:11:39
according to TP on FB it looks like AOL is nolonger going to be advertising on Rushies show

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 17:25:45
hmmm.... This ticks me off.
back then:
"Out of respect for our troops, our city and our listeners, we have taken the Dixie Chicks off our playlists."
-Clear Channel director of programming


Today?
Clear Channel's Premiere Radio Networks Inc. hosts Limbaugh's program, one of the country's most popular talk radio shows. The company is supporting Limbaugh, whose on-air contract with Premiere runs through 2016.

"The contraception debate is one that sparks strong emotion and opinions on both sides of the issue," Premiere Networks said in a statement emailed Sunday by spokeswoman Rachel Nelson. "We respect the right of Mr. Limbaugh, as well as the rights of those who disagree with him, to express those opinions."

Clear Channel Media and Entertainment operates more than 850 radio stations in the U.S., and Premiere says it's the largest radio content provider in the country, syndicating programs to more than 5,000 affiliate stations.



I know this is going to be a sticky wicket wrt Randi Rhodes at this point.

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 17:35:43
This is REALLY cool.

It's a project tracker for stopping Rush.

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 18:01:11
Another non apology. He is such a piece of work.

Limbaugh also expressed regret for stooping down to the level of Democrats in discussing the issue of contraception coverage.

“In fighting them on this issue last week, I became like them. Against my own instincts, against my own knowledge, against everything I know to be right and wrong, I descended to their level when I used those two words to describe Sandra Fluke. That was my error. I became like them,” he said.
....

“I’m sorry to see them go. They have profited handsomely from you. These advertisers who have split the seam have done very well due to their access to you, my audience to this program,” he said. “ Now they’ve chosen to deny themselves that access. That’s a business decision and it’s theirs alone to make. They’ve decided they don’t want you or your business anymore. So be it.”


In his 'heartfelt apology', he still felt the need to shift the blame on others.






Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2012 18:09:26
My inside sources (folks who take one for the team and listen to Rushbo) say he's pronouncing the woman's name "Sandra Fluck" ...

He just doesn't know when to quit, even when he's beat.

Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2012 18:24:14
Comment by livingonli on 03/05/2012 18:26:09
Rushbo is a miserable human being and I keep picturing him spending his last days holed up in his mansion as a miserable old soul like Orson Welles near the end of Citizen Kane.

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 18:28:57
Quote by Scoopster:
My inside sources (folks who take one for the team and listen to Rushbo) say he's pronouncing the woman's name "Sandra Fluck" ...

He just doesn't know when to quit, even when he's beat.
It's been my understanding that it's actually the proper pronunciation of her name. Rachel said Fluhk the other night as well.




Comment by livingonli on 03/05/2012 19:06:09
Considering Rush's statements about women, it is amazing that any woman would want to be with him (ie, his 4 wives or ex-CNN anchor Daryn Kagan).

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 19:42:39
:::peeks into blog:::

Are we back for reelz?

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 19:51:18
Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2012 19:52:29
ugh! the comments on TOP's news story's make my blood boil sometimes

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 19:55:17
Quote by wickedpam:
ugh! the comments on TOP's news story's make my blood boil sometimes
You too?

Is this on the FB page?


Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2012 19:55:53
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422032_10150705919494882_702834881_11063243_205686778_n.jpg


h/t to Randi for this one

Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2012 19:56:08
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
ugh! the comments on TOP's news story's make my blood boil sometimes
You too?

Is this on the FB page?



yep - that's only place I run across them

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 20:00:25
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
ugh! the comments on TOP's news story's make my blood boil sometimes
You too?

Is this on the FB page?



yep - that's only place I run across them
I chimed in....

Remember when Rush was detained with 4 men and 29 pills of Viagra on his way back from the Domincan Republic?

Yeah... I'd tread carefully when calling Ms. Fluke a slut. She was speaking on behalf of a friend. Rush, however hasn't ever said why he needed viagra in the Domincan Republic.

Just sayin'




Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 20:01:20
Quote by Scoopster:
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422032_10150705919494882_702834881_11063243_205686778_n.jpg


h/t to Randi for this one
that is awesome.


Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2012 20:01:35
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
ugh! the comments on TOP's news story's make my blood boil sometimes
You too?

Is this on the FB page?



yep - that's only place I run across them
I chimed in....

Remember when Rush was detained with 4 men and 29 pills of Viagra on his way back from the Domincan Republic?

Yeah... I'd tread carefully when calling Ms. Fluke a slut. She was speaking on behalf of a friend. Rush, however hasn't ever said why he needed viagra in the Domincan Republic.

Just sayin'





Like!

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 20:11:36
I was rather proud of this tweet:

I see -- conservatives hate the free market when it affects thier herodeologue. #StopRush #p2 #LetTheMarketDecide


Comment by livingonli on 03/05/2012 20:13:24
I guess everyone's listening to Randi right now. I saw a tweet that seem to show Clear Channel doesn't promote equally their shows when Randi is only on 36 stations while Rush is on 600.

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 20:15:56
Quote by livingonli:
I guess everyone's listening to Randi right now. I saw a tweet that seem to show Clear Channel doesn't promote equally their shows when Randi is only on 36 stations while Rush is on 600.
I posted this earlier:

hmmm.... This ticks me off.
back then:
"Out of respect for our troops, our city and our listeners, we have taken the Dixie Chicks off our playlists."
-Clear Channel director of programming


Today?
Clear Channel's Premiere Radio Networks Inc. hosts Limbaugh's program, one of the country's most popular talk radio shows. The company is supporting Limbaugh, whose on-air contract with Premiere runs through 2016.

"The contraception debate is one that sparks strong emotion and opinions on both sides of the issue," Premiere Networks said in a statement emailed Sunday by spokeswoman Rachel Nelson. "We respect the right of Mr. Limbaugh, as well as the rights of those who disagree with him, to express those opinions."

Clear Channel Media and Entertainment operates more than 850 radio stations in the U.S., and Premiere says it's the largest radio content provider in the country, syndicating programs to more than 5,000 affiliate stations.



I know this is going to be a sticky wicket wrt Randi Rhodes at this point.



Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 20:17:18
Ron paul is still a POS in my view-- he said that people don;t deserve FEMA help.

oh and Ohio governor Kasich told the Federal Government to take the federal aid and pound salt.

Gotta love those baggertarians.

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 20:29:26
I wasn't aware that Fluke was on a public interest Scholarship! That is REALLY awesome.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2012 20:30:10
no, the fact that Georgetown is one of the best law schools in the US doesnt' have anything to do with anything

Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2012 20:30:12
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/05/2012 20:35:44
Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 20:39:20
Quote by wickedpam:
no, the fact that Georgetown is one of the best law schools in the US doesnt' have anything to do with anything


Once again -- a woman giving a crap about women's issues is not worthy of a scholarship to such a prestigious school according to troglodytes like Rush and his supporter.

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 20:47:15
My goodness, I love it when Randi is on point like today!

All Students at Georgetown are required to purchase Georgetown's health insurance that doesn't include Contraception coverage, yet -- the employees' coverage does.

VERY interesting.

Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2012 21:17:12
Comment by clintster on 03/05/2012 23:05:18
OK, gang, I have checked it out, and Georgia has an open presidential primary tomorrow. So I need some advice here. Should I:

a) Vote for Barack and show my solidarity with the President?
b) Vote in the Republican primary for teh lulz?
c) Sit it out and have a big refreshing glass of schadenfreude?

If your answer is b), then:

1) Who should I vote for, and
2) How long a shower should I take afterwards to wash away the feeling I will inevitably get?

Comment by livingonli on 03/05/2012 23:11:52
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
no, the fact that Georgetown is one of the best law schools in the US doesnt' have anything to do with anything


Once again -- a woman giving a crap about women's issues is not worthy of a scholarship to such a prestigious school according to troglodytes like Rush and his supporter.

No, becuz as the mighty Rushter sez, they should all be home brithing babies

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2012 23:57:24
Quote by clintster:
OK, gang, I have checked it out, and Georgia has an open presidential primary tomorrow. So I need some advice here. Should I:

a) Vote for Barack and show my solidarity with the President?
b) Vote in the Republican primary for teh lulz?
c) Sit it out and have a big refreshing glass of schadenfreude?

If your answer is b), then:

1) Who should I vote for, and
2) How long a shower should I take afterwards to wash away the feeling I will inevitably get?


I say *A*

Georgia can use all the clicks it can get for the Pres. I was tempted to participate here in Virginia in the GOP primary-- but I just felt icky. I will notcast a vote for the GOP--

let them fall on thier own sword, they don't need help from the Dems.

Comment by Raine on 03/06/2012 01:41:38
Quote by Raine:
Quote by clintster:
OK, gang, I have checked it out, and Georgia has an open presidential primary tomorrow. So I need some advice here. Should I:

a) Vote for Barack and show my solidarity with the President?
b) Vote in the Republican primary for teh lulz?
c) Sit it out and have a big refreshing glass of schadenfreude?

If your answer is b), then:

1) Who should I vote for, and
2) How long a shower should I take afterwards to wash away the feeling I will inevitably get?


I say *A*

Georgia can use all the clicks it can get for the Pres. I was tempted to participate here in Virginia in the GOP primary-- but I just felt icky. I will notcast a vote for the GOP--

let them fall on thier own sword, they don't need help from the Dems.


one more thing: Obama needs as much help as he can in Georgia.


Comment by TriSec on 03/06/2012 02:03:14
Evening, folks.

Since another open primary state was mentioned, I'll raise my issue.

Is it more important to me to vote FOR Elizabeth Warren, or AGAINST Mitt Romney?

I'm leaning towards against; planning on writing in Buddy Roemer at the moment.


Comment by clintster on 03/06/2012 02:16:42
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by clintster:
OK, gang, I have checked it out, and Georgia has an open presidential primary tomorrow. So I need some advice here. Should I:

a) Vote for Barack and show my solidarity with the President?
b) Vote in the Republican primary for teh lulz?
c) Sit it out and have a big refreshing glass of schadenfreude?

If your answer is b), then:

1) Who should I vote for, and
2) How long a shower should I take afterwards to wash away the feeling I will inevitably get?


I say *A*

Georgia can use all the clicks it can get for the Pres. I was tempted to participate here in Virginia in the GOP primary-- but I just felt icky. I will notcast a vote for the GOP--

let them fall on thier own sword, they don't need help from the Dems.


one more thing: Obama needs as much help as he can in Georgia.

Thankees, I will be pulling the lever in Barack's favor. Quick story:

They've been running these ads for Newt Gingrich here in GA. The ads mention how different and more conservative Newt is than Mitt, and especially the Prez. In one ad, the "voters" talk about how Newt will fix the economy, restore American confidence, and bring back conservative values "right from the start."

After one of these ads ran, Ian looks at me and says "I hope Barack Obama wins again. I don't want Newt Gingrich to beat him because he would mess things up - right from the start."

From the mouths of babes...

Comment by clintster on 03/06/2012 02:17:47
Quote by TriSec:
Evening, folks.

Since another open primary state was mentioned, I'll raise my issue.

Is it more important to me to vote FOR Elizabeth Warren, or AGAINST Mitt Romney?

I'm leaning towards against; planning on writing in Buddy Roemer at the moment.


Didn't Roemer drop out? I'd probably vote for Elizabeth.

Comment by BobR on 03/06/2012 02:34:45
Quote by clintster:
They've been running these ads for Newt Gingrich here in GA. The ads mention how different and more conservative Newt is than Mitt, and especially the Prez. In one ad, the "voters" talk about how Newt will fix the economy, restore American confidence, and bring back conservative values "right from the start."

After one of these ads ran, Ian looks at me and says "I hope Barack Obama wins again. I don't want Newt Gingrich to beat him because he would mess things up - right from the start."

From the mouths of babes...

for Ian!!

Comment by Raine on 03/06/2012 02:39:23
Quote by clintster:
Quote by TriSec:
Evening, folks.

Since another open primary state was mentioned, I'll raise my issue.

Is it more important to me to vote FOR Elizabeth Warren, or AGAINST Mitt Romney?

I'm leaning towards against; planning on writing in Buddy Roemer at the moment.


Didn't Roemer drop out? I'd probably vote for Elizabeth.


I'm with Clint.

Roemer isn't running.

Give Warren support. At least your vote will count.



Comment by Raine on 03/06/2012 02:44:50
The more votes Obama and Warren gets in their respective states, the more support they will get from the DNC.

A vote for Roemer is akin to a vote for Mickey Mouse.

Vote your heart, not the Odds. Voting is not a sport.







Comment by Raine on 03/06/2012 02:50:35
Quote by BobR:
Quote by clintster:
They've been running these ads for Newt Gingrich here in GA. The ads mention how different and more conservative Newt is than Mitt, and especially the Prez. In one ad, the "voters" talk about how Newt will fix the economy, restore American confidence, and bring back conservative values "right from the start."

After one of these ads ran, Ian looks at me and says "I hope Barack Obama wins again. I don't want Newt Gingrich to beat him because he would mess things up - right from the start."

From the mouths of babes...

for Ian!!

I would like to give a plus one for that! Ian -- you rawk!