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Driven to Distraction
Author: BobR
Date: 03/12/2008 12:11:56
I was reminded last night about the art of distraction by a boorish drunk at the bar. He performed a simple trick that confounded my companion. It was simple enough - he merely had to distract from what his right hand was doing for a brief second while he focused our attention on something less important. Since I was an observer and not the participant, I noticed it right away. In the world of magic, it's a vital skill.
If there's one thing we've learned about this administration, it's that they seem to use this trick all of the time. Whenever there's a terror alert, whenever there's a scandal, it seems certain that there's something else going on that they want kept out of the news cycle. Could this be the motivation for the timing this time? Lori Price over at CLG thinks so. Some of the items she mentions we've seen here at this blog.
Perhaps the biggest news not covered: The House failed to override the Bush veto on torture. Yes, they were 51 votes short. So whatever you do, don't get picked up by the CIA because Bush has ensured that they are allowed to torture you.
Some other great news: The NSA has essentially ressurected the TIA program. Remember Total Information Awareness with the 1984-ish all-seeing eye?
There's more there. A lot. Go read it. Now.
Along these same lines, The UK top cop who led probe into CIA rendering found dead:
Natural causes? Not likely.
Torture, spying on civilians, mysterious deaths of corruption investigators... It sounds like we're part of a repressive regime, not a beacon of freedom. Perhaps that's why the U.S. dropped China from its list of human rights abusers. I'm sure the fact that they own our asses has nothing to do with it. :rolleyes2:
Meanwhile, the U.S. continues to be a hypocrit in other areas as well, including the nuclear arms race. As we step on other countries and insist they not develop nuclear weapons, do we stop development? Of course not:
I suppose I could go on, but I've made the point pretty clearly. At its most innocent, this is yet another "missing white woman" story that inadvertently distracts the media from more important stories. However, given this Administration's propensity for using the Justice Dept. towards its own goals, the timing of this IS suspicious. You have to wonder how long they've been sitting on this and why they chose this particular time to nail Spitzer. What other stories are out there hiding like vampires from the light of day?
Have the master prestidigitators in DC done it again? Only time will tell.
If there's one thing we've learned about this administration, it's that they seem to use this trick all of the time. Whenever there's a terror alert, whenever there's a scandal, it seems certain that there's something else going on that they want kept out of the news cycle. Could this be the motivation for the timing this time? Lori Price over at CLG thinks so. Some of the items she mentions we've seen here at this blog.
Perhaps the biggest news not covered: The House failed to override the Bush veto on torture. Yes, they were 51 votes short. So whatever you do, don't get picked up by the CIA because Bush has ensured that they are allowed to torture you.
Some other great news: The NSA has essentially ressurected the TIA program. Remember Total Information Awareness with the 1984-ish all-seeing eye?
Five years ago, Congress killed an experimental Pentagon antiterrorism program meant to vacuum up electronic data about people in the U.S. to search for suspicious patterns. Opponents called it too broad an intrusion on Americans' privacy, even after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
But the data-sifting effort didn't disappear. The National Security Agency, once confined to foreign surveillance, has been building essentially the same system.
The central role the NSA has come to occupy in domestic intelligence gathering has never been publicly disclosed. But an inquiry reveals that its efforts have evolved to reach more broadly into data about people's communications, travel and finances in the U.S. than the domestic surveillance programs brought to light since the 2001 terrorist attacks.
Along these same lines, The UK top cop who led probe into CIA rendering found dead:
A city police chief who led an investigation into charges that Britain cooperated with secret CIA flights to transport terrorism suspects without formal proceedings has been found dead, his deputy said Tuesday.
Manchester Chief Constable Michael Todd, 50, was found dead in Snowdonia, about 240 miles northwest of London, Deputy Chief Constable Dave Whatton said. He had been missing since going out for a walk Monday during his day off.
Whatton said the body, which was found Tuesday afternoon, had not yet been formally identified but he believed it was Todd.
He said a coroner's inquest would investigate the cause of death and did not give any further details.
Natural causes? Not likely.
Torture, spying on civilians, mysterious deaths of corruption investigators... It sounds like we're part of a repressive regime, not a beacon of freedom. Perhaps that's why the U.S. dropped China from its list of human rights abusers. I'm sure the fact that they own our asses has nothing to do with it. :rolleyes2:
Meanwhile, the U.S. continues to be a hypocrit in other areas as well, including the nuclear arms race. As we step on other countries and insist they not develop nuclear weapons, do we stop development? Of course not:
Not only do we retain several thousand warheads, we've modernized our nuclear arsenal with modulated, dialed-down "tactical" nukes. Why, they're almost like conventional bombs. Look ma, no nuclear stigma!
Apparently the nuclear taboo has been shattered as well. The nuclear posture review drawn up by the administration in 2001 provides for first use of nukes (albeit the new tacticals) -- hitherto unthinkable -- in awkward tasks like bunker busting.
Then there's our NATO strategy: Eastward ho! Stopping just long enough in the Czech Republic and Poland to set up missile defense installations. Equally frightening, five of the west's distinguished (until now, anyway) military officers and strategists composed a manifesto calling on NATO to reserve the right to use nukes preemptively.
I suppose I could go on, but I've made the point pretty clearly. At its most innocent, this is yet another "missing white woman" story that inadvertently distracts the media from more important stories. However, given this Administration's propensity for using the Justice Dept. towards its own goals, the timing of this IS suspicious. You have to wonder how long they've been sitting on this and why they chose this particular time to nail Spitzer. What other stories are out there hiding like vampires from the light of day?
Have the master prestidigitators in DC done it again? Only time will tell.
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Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 03/12/2008 12:48:08
Will in Chicago on 03/12/2008 12:48:08
FIRST!!!
Good morning, bloggers!!
We should expect more programs from the Bush administration in its last months to try to give whoever comes in more of a mess to clean up or, in the case of John McCain, more tools to use to further Bush's agenda.
Good morning, bloggers!!
We should expect more programs from the Bush administration in its last months to try to give whoever comes in more of a mess to clean up or, in the case of John McCain, more tools to use to further Bush's agenda.
Comment by 
clintster on 03/12/2008 13:03:30
clintster on 03/12/2008 13:03:30
Raine and BobR, I have to beg off the meet-up today in Decatur. I'm up against some hard deadlines and I won't be able to get away for lunch. Sorry!
Comment by 
jd_in_ny on 03/12/2008 13:08:55
jd_in_ny on 03/12/2008 13:08:55
A fill-in! I guess they just couldn't resist commenting on the recent "happenings"
Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/12/2008 13:16:07
Will in Chicago on 03/12/2008 13:16:07
Who is filling in? I thought it was a repeat, so I ended up tuning in Jay Marvin on Denver's station.
Comment by jd_in_ny on 03/12/2008 13:18:13
jd_in_ny on 03/12/2008 13:18:13
Um... I don't remember their names. But they've been on Best Week Ever?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/12/2008 13:20:20
Will in Chicago on 03/12/2008 13:20:20
The guest ion Jay Marvin is Lawrence Corb of the Center for American Progress.
Jeff Farias of KPHX 1480 Phoenix will have Scott Ritter as a guest on his show during the second hour. (The show is on at 6 PM Eastern.)
Jeff Farias of KPHX 1480 Phoenix will have Scott Ritter as a guest on his show during the second hour. (The show is on at 6 PM Eastern.)
Comment by 
Shane-O on 03/12/2008 13:20:36
Shane-O on 03/12/2008 13:20:36
BobR - I had no idea the House failed to override. Thanks for posting about it. That's really important stuff that, you are correct, got NO coverage yesterday.
I went through the bill text over the weekend and surmised that the issue was not simply to preserve new waterboarding - but to protect his ass regarding old waterboarding. There is a section (326) that had a lot of reporting requirements.
I put the info in a little post here: Bush: Waterboarding Is A Lawful Technique.
I went through the bill text over the weekend and surmised that the issue was not simply to preserve new waterboarding - but to protect his ass regarding old waterboarding. There is a section (326) that had a lot of reporting requirements.
I put the info in a little post here: Bush: Waterboarding Is A Lawful Technique.
Comment by 
m-hadley on 03/12/2008 13:26:22
m-hadley on 03/12/2008 13:26:22
Good Mornin' Everybody :)
I am back at work after being off for more than a week - hope I can get through the day with any overwrought show of emotions. I did post a rather rambling disjointed piece on my blog yesterday - for anybody who's interested. Again, I just want to thank everyone here at 4Fs for the support and good cheer that you all sent my way over the last week or so. You all are truly the best and I am looking forward to hooking up with you all in DC in just a little over a month from now
cheers,
mfaye
I am back at work after being off for more than a week - hope I can get through the day with any overwrought show of emotions. I did post a rather rambling disjointed piece on my blog yesterday - for anybody who's interested. Again, I just want to thank everyone here at 4Fs for the support and good cheer that you all sent my way over the last week or so. You all are truly the best and I am looking forward to hooking up with you all in DC in just a little over a month from now
cheers,
mfaye
Comment by 
Raine on 03/12/2008 13:28:38
Raine on 03/12/2008 13:28:38
Good morning!
Heya Clinster. OK, we can reschedule for another time I hope! Frangela.... hmmm... I am very happy that we have someone filling in instead of best-ofs.
Scary Blog there Bobber.
Heya Clinster. OK, we can reschedule for another time I hope! Frangela.... hmmm... I am very happy that we have someone filling in instead of best-ofs.
Scary Blog there Bobber.
Comment by 
BobR on 03/12/2008 13:29:34
Good to see you back!
btw - ShelaghC is looking to share a room (see our DC meetup post), so if you're interested in saving money, you should contact her...
BobR on 03/12/2008 13:29:34
Quote by m-hadley:
Good Mornin' Everybody :)
I am back at work after being off for more than a week - hope I can get through the day with any overwrought show of emotions. I did post a rather rambling disjointed piece on my blog yesterday - for anybody who's interested. Again, I just want to thank everyone here at 4Fs for the support and good cheer that you all sent my way over the last week or so. You all are truly the best and I am looking forward to hooking up with you all in DC in just a little over a month from now
cheers,
mfaye
Good to see you back!
btw - ShelaghC is looking to share a room (see our DC meetup post), so if you're interested in saving money, you should contact her...
Comment by m-hadley on 03/12/2008 13:32:48
m-hadley on 03/12/2008 13:32:48
Oh, and welcome Shane-O. I love your sound work. This is Faye, the radical militant librarian from Tulsa, OK 
Comment by ProducerChris on 03/12/2008 13:34:04
Hey Everyone! ProducerChris 
checking in from my post in Our Nation's Capital (well, I'll be there later on today.... in glorious Hampton Roads, VA as we speak). We decided that there was SO much news going on this week that we asked Frangela to fill in for us the rest of the week. They host a weekend show on our Los Angeles affiliate KTLK, and you might also know them from VH-1's "Best Week Ever" and those "I Love The Decades" shows. Hope you like them!
ProducerChris :clown:
checking in from my post in Our Nation's Capital (well, I'll be there later on today.... in glorious Hampton Roads, VA as we speak). We decided that there was SO much news going on this week that we asked Frangela to fill in for us the rest of the week. They host a weekend show on our Los Angeles affiliate KTLK, and you might also know them from VH-1's "Best Week Ever" and those "I Love The Decades" shows. Hope you like them!ProducerChris :clown:
Comment by 
Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 13:34:23
Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 13:34:23
Hey can't stay but wanted to say hello
Comment by 
starling310 on 03/12/2008 13:36:10
starling310 on 03/12/2008 13:36:10
Morning.
Faye....glad to see you back! Good job you.
Regarding Spitzer, I haven't been paying too much because, quite frankly, I don't really care. But, he did admit it, correct? I don't know, we can search for excuses and reasons to "say it ain't so" but, it seems he isn't cut of the cloth that he said he was. period. Maybe we need to accept it, the way we accepted Larry Craig having a wide stance, etc. Being a democratic governor doesn't automatically make him a "good guy." Just sayin. . . probably won't be a popular opinion, but that's it anyway.
In my opinion prostitution should be legal anyway, but that's another matter.
Faye....glad to see you back! Good job you.
Regarding Spitzer, I haven't been paying too much because, quite frankly, I don't really care. But, he did admit it, correct? I don't know, we can search for excuses and reasons to "say it ain't so" but, it seems he isn't cut of the cloth that he said he was. period. Maybe we need to accept it, the way we accepted Larry Craig having a wide stance, etc. Being a democratic governor doesn't automatically make him a "good guy." Just sayin. . . probably won't be a popular opinion, but that's it anyway.
In my opinion prostitution should be legal anyway, but that's another matter.
Comment by Shane-O on 03/12/2008 13:38:19
Shane-O on 03/12/2008 13:38:19
Hey Faye - thanks - and I read your blog regularly - I didn't know about it until Jim put the link up at SMFHC.com - but for the last month, I've been watching... 
I like it a lo... ::in Gump voice::
I like it a lo... ::in Gump voice::
Comment by Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 13:41:08
Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 13:41:08
I also wanted to toss out a question about this TIA thing.
You know where I stand ont the whole thing. But there may be a little misunderstanding as to the whole reason why.
My question is this. "We know that there is very little reason to do such a grand and gross attack on out privacy for secutiry concerns. So why do it?"
I have an answer that is far darker when you think about it than it would first seem.
Are they doing this for "Marketing Reasons?" Weather or not they are doing it to market the technology to do it or they are doing it to better twist our minds to sell us soap, or even the "Brand of Conservativeism" I think it's not about keeping us safe as keeping them selves rich.
What do you all think?
You know where I stand ont the whole thing. But there may be a little misunderstanding as to the whole reason why.
My question is this. "We know that there is very little reason to do such a grand and gross attack on out privacy for secutiry concerns. So why do it?"
I have an answer that is far darker when you think about it than it would first seem.
Are they doing this for "Marketing Reasons?" Weather or not they are doing it to market the technology to do it or they are doing it to better twist our minds to sell us soap, or even the "Brand of Conservativeism" I think it's not about keeping us safe as keeping them selves rich.
What do you all think?
Comment by BobR on 03/12/2008 13:43:49
BobR on 03/12/2008 13:43:49
btw - to our newest members: You too are invited to the FourFreedomsBlog DC Meetup, if you feel so inclined as to attend...
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2008 13:43:51
Raine on 03/12/2008 13:43:51
Ehay Grump and faye! GRUMP! Did you leave yet?WE got this for you!!
AND heya How are you doing?!?! Thanks for the fill ins today.
AND heya
How are you doing?!?! Thanks for the fill ins today.
Comment by BobR on 03/12/2008 13:48:06
I believe it's being done to retain power (and power<=>money). I think the marketing aspect was there long before the TIA program. They've had the marketing down for a while now.
BobR on 03/12/2008 13:48:06
Quote by Grumpymann:
I also wanted to toss out a question about this TIA thing.
You know where I stand ont the whole thing. But there may be a little misunderstanding as to the whole reason why.
My question is this. "We know that there is very little reason to do such a grand and gross attack on out privacy for secutiry concerns. So why do it?"
I have an answer that is far darker when you think about it than it would first seem.
Are they doing this for "Marketing Reasons?" Weather or not they are doing it to market the technology to do it or they are doing it to better twist our minds to sell us soap, or even the "Brand of Conservativeism" I think it's not about keeping us safe as keeping them selves rich.
What do you all think?
I believe it's being done to retain power (and power<=>money). I think the marketing aspect was there long before the TIA program. They've had the marketing down for a while now.
Comment by Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 13:49:38
Have I told you how much I LOVE that??????
CowBell!
I LOVE that!
I got a repreve for a while!
Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 13:49:38
Quote by Raine:
Ehay Grump and faye! GRUMP! Did you leave yet?WE got this for you!!
AND heya
Have I told you how much I LOVE that??????
CowBell!
I LOVE that!
I got a repreve for a while!
Comment by starling310 on 03/12/2008 13:50:19
starling310 on 03/12/2008 13:50:19
"He old y'all. . . " :rofl:
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2008 13:52:08
Raine on 03/12/2008 13:52:08
We should btw, be getting some new audicons up today!
I think we may have to put them into categories!
I think we may have to put them into categories!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/12/2008 13:53:51
Thanks for letting us know, Chris!! Enjoy the rest and relaxation.
Will in Chicago on 03/12/2008 13:53:51
Quote by producerchris1:
Hey Everyone! ProducerChris
ProducerChris :clown:
Thanks for letting us know, Chris!! Enjoy the rest and relaxation.
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2008 13:54:54
Raine on 03/12/2008 13:54:54
I kinda like these ladies! I must admit I have not seen the VH-1 Machine lately...
Comment by 
livingonli on 03/12/2008 13:54:57
livingonli on 03/12/2008 13:54:57
Good morning everyone. 
I'm listening to Democracy Now! right now but after this I will have to go check out the fill-ins. Thanks for the heads up Chris since I would have still thought there were best-ofs on and I don't want to listen to Lionel.
I'm listening to Democracy Now! right now but after this I will have to go check out the fill-ins. Thanks for the heads up Chris since I would have still thought there were best-ofs on and I don't want to listen to Lionel.
Comment by BobR on 03/12/2008 13:56:14
You guys picked a great time to go on vacation, huh? :doh:
BobR on 03/12/2008 13:56:14
Quote by producerchris1:
Hey Everyone! ProducerChris
ProducerChris :clown:
You guys picked a great time to go on vacation, huh? :doh:
Comment by Shane-O on 03/12/2008 13:56:14
Shane-O on 03/12/2008 13:56:14
I gotta say - I really like Angela and Frances (sp?) -- they're good!!!
Comment by livingonli on 03/12/2008 13:56:39
Because like MTV they never show music videos anymore. Come to think of it, MTV2 which was supposed to be only music videos hardly shows music videos anymore.
livingonli on 03/12/2008 13:56:39
Quote by Raine:
I kinda like these ladies! I must admit I have not seen the VH-1 Machine lately...
Because like MTV they never show music videos anymore. Come to think of it, MTV2 which was supposed to be only music videos hardly shows music videos anymore.
Comment by starling310 on 03/12/2008 13:57:11
They did this hilarious bit on NPR about the Academy Awards and how to make it a better show. . . the quote I remember most is "Our house band would be Prince and the Revolution!" :rofl:
starling310 on 03/12/2008 13:57:11
Quote by Raine:
I kinda like these ladies! I must admit I have not seen the VH-1 Machine lately...
They did this hilarious bit on NPR about the Academy Awards and how to make it a better show. . . the quote I remember most is "Our house band would be Prince and the Revolution!" :rofl:
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2008 13:57:56
!
Raine on 03/12/2008 13:57:56
Quote by BobR:Quote by producerchris1:
Hey Everyone! ProducerChris
ProducerChris :clown:
You guys picked a great time to go on vacation, huh? :doh:
Comment by Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 13:58:01
But as you see it's not working......
I know it seems like "Hey we got sold a bill of goods on that last one!".
I think that "their" retroic has lost not only it's effectiveness but even it's veneer of fact?
Remember how those pieces of filth got this far? they "Marketed" the "conservative" brand to the masses. Had them looking at gay people while they sold thier jobs over seas.
I'm just wondering if they are trying to expand the data sets.
Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 13:58:01
Quote by BobR:Quote by Grumpymann:
I also wanted to toss out a question about this TIA thing.
You know where I stand ont the whole thing. But there may be a little misunderstanding as to the whole reason why.
My question is this. "We know that there is very little reason to do such a grand and gross attack on out privacy for secutiry concerns. So why do it?"
I have an answer that is far darker when you think about it than it would first seem.
Are they doing this for "Marketing Reasons?" Weather or not they are doing it to market the technology to do it or they are doing it to better twist our minds to sell us soap, or even the "Brand of Conservativeism" I think it's not about keeping us safe as keeping them selves rich.
What do you all think?
I believe it's being done to retain power (and power<=>money). I think the marketing aspect was there long before the TIA program. They've had the marketing down for a while now.
But as you see it's not working......
I know it seems like "Hey we got sold a bill of goods on that last one!".
I think that "their" retroic has lost not only it's effectiveness but even it's veneer of fact?
Remember how those pieces of filth got this far? they "Marketed" the "conservative" brand to the masses. Had them looking at gay people while they sold thier jobs over seas.
I'm just wondering if they are trying to expand the data sets.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 03/12/2008 13:58:37
I was wondering who that was.
I like them on Best Week Ever, not sure if 3 hours of them is going to be a good thing though - we'll see. THey have big drag queenie type shoes to fill.
wickedpam on 03/12/2008 13:58:37
Quote by producerchris1:
Hey Everyone! ProducerChris
ProducerChris :clown:
I was wondering who that was.
I like them on Best Week Ever, not sure if 3 hours of them is going to be a good thing though - we'll see. THey have big drag queenie type shoes to fill.
Comment by livingonli on 03/12/2008 13:59:03
livingonli on 03/12/2008 13:59:03
Don't forget Keith is going to have a comment on HRC tonight.
Comment by 
TriSec on 03/12/2008 13:59:48
TriSec on 03/12/2008 13:59:48
Sorry-ass TriSec shuffling around.
The Mines and the Home Front seem to have reached a confluence today. So my only safe haven is here.
:kickcan:
The Mines and the Home Front seem to have reached a confluence today. So my only safe haven is here.
:kickcan:
Comment by wickedpam on 03/12/2008 14:00:08
wickedpam on 03/12/2008 14:00:08
MOrning btw! :hug:
Comment by starling310 on 03/12/2008 14:03:40
Oofda. . .and this on top of giving up coffee.
starling310 on 03/12/2008 14:03:40
Quote by TriSec:
Sorry-ass TriSec shuffling around.
The Mines and the Home Front seem to have reached a confluence today. So my only safe haven is here.
:kickcan:
Oofda. . .and this on top of giving up coffee.
Comment by livingonli on 03/12/2008 14:05:54
IT sucks when everything falls on you at once.
livingonli on 03/12/2008 14:05:54
Quote by starling310:Quote by TriSec:
Sorry-ass TriSec shuffling around.
The Mines and the Home Front seem to have reached a confluence today. So my only safe haven is here.
:kickcan:
Oofda. . .and this on top of giving up coffee.
IT sucks when everything falls on you at once.
Comment by BobR on 03/12/2008 14:11:11
BobR on 03/12/2008 14:11:11
How cool is this?
Animation discovered on ancient piece of pottery
EDIT: Here's a GIF created from the pottery images:
Animation discovered on ancient piece of pottery
EDIT: Here's a GIF created from the pottery images:
Comment by wickedpam on 03/12/2008 14:12:21
wickedpam on 03/12/2008 14:12:21
I don't get it - they want Spitzer out now, he's a local guy for NY only so it's whole NY thing. But people on a national stage like Vitter and Craig get to keep there job and people don't demand they resign.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/12/2008 14:15:27
Will in Chicago on 03/12/2008 14:15:27
Comment by livingonli on 03/12/2008 14:15:51
It's the double standard which seems that Republicans are given a pass but Democrats have to be nailed to the wall.
And why haven't they pushed Larry Craig out, he totally reneged on his decistion to resign. Is he going to run for re-election this year?
livingonli on 03/12/2008 14:15:51
Quote by wickedpam:
I don't get it - they want Spitzer out now, he's a local guy for NY only so it's whole NY thing. But people on a national stage like Vitter and Craig get to keep there job and people don't demand they resign.
It's the double standard which seems that Republicans are given a pass but Democrats have to be nailed to the wall.
And why haven't they pushed Larry Craig out, he totally reneged on his decistion to resign. Is he going to run for re-election this year?
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2008 14:19:50
Raine on 03/12/2008 14:19:50
Sister called me to talk about Spitzer... he will be stepping down at around 11:30 this morning, effective as of Monday.
Comment by Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 14:20:43
IARIFYAR
Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 14:20:43
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:
I don't get it - they want Spitzer out now, he's a local guy for NY only so it's whole NY thing. But people on a national stage like Vitter and Craig get to keep there job and people don't demand they resign.
It's the double standard which seems that Republicans are given a pass but Democrats have to be nailed to the wall.
And why haven't they pushed Larry Craig out, he totally reneged on his decistion to resign. Is he going to run for re-election this year?
IARIFYAR
Comment by TriSec on 03/12/2008 14:21:03
TriSec on 03/12/2008 14:21:03
But Bob, didn't you see that the ancient pottery was Iranian???
What are you, some kind of distributer of ancient muslim terror?
What are you, some kind of distributer of ancient muslim terror?
Comment by Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 14:22:39
Something doesn't smell right about the whole thing. and it's not the lube........
Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 14:22:39
Quote by Raine:
Sister called me to talk about Spitzer... he will be stepping down at around 11:30 this morning, effective as of Monday.
Something doesn't smell right about the whole thing. and it's not the lube........
Comment by jd_in_ny on 03/12/2008 14:23:07
jd_in_ny on 03/12/2008 14:23:07
I'm not a constituent of Craig or Vitter, so I don't have a say in whether they stay or go. I voted for Spitzer, and he's turned out to be a hypocrite and he is, effectively, politically crippled.
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2008 14:23:10
That is so cool!
Raine on 03/12/2008 14:23:10
Quote by BobR:
How cool is this?
Animation discovered on ancient piece of pottery
EDIT: Here's a GIF created from the pottery images:
Comment by TriSec on 03/12/2008 14:25:08
TriSec on 03/12/2008 14:25:08
Any chemists out there?
Why is it when I add a slice of actual lemon to my tea, the cream doesn't curdle, but when I use lemon juice, it does?
Why is it when I add a slice of actual lemon to my tea, the cream doesn't curdle, but when I use lemon juice, it does?
Comment by livingonli on 03/12/2008 14:25:25
livingonli on 03/12/2008 14:25:25
The SMS blog is still very quiet. How many of the listeners know that today is not a best-of.
Comment by Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 14:26:06
Grumpymann on 03/12/2008 14:26:06
Quote by BobR:
How cool is this?
Animation discovered on ancient piece of pottery
EDIT: Here's a GIF created from the pottery images: