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Crossing the Rubio
Author: BobR
Date: 06/20/2012 12:45:18
It's been about a week since President Obama declared that he would put the principles behind the failed DREAM Act into practice, mainly granting work visas rather than deporting young adults who were brought into this country illegally as children. It was a bold move, using the office as a way to effect policy that Congress could not. It was similar to his declaration that his office would not enforce DOMA either. These are contentious social issues for Republicans, and President Obama has crossed the rubicon in a big way, especially during an election year.
The actions have actually proven popular with voters, however, appealing to people's general sense of fairness. This latest action effectively removed any chance for Romney to score the Latino vote (not that he had much of chance to begin with). When asked, Romney - knowing that this is a popular action and not wanting to take a stand - would not say whether he would change that policy if elected (the exchange with Bob Scheiffer is too long to quote - it bears reading, though, so click through to the link).
To counteract this without alienating the Republican base, Romney's best chance would be to do something blatant like pick a Republican latino running mate, say... Marco Rubio? The problem with Rubio, of course, is that he has been supportive of this same type of approach to these young people brought over as children. In fact - he'd like to talk to President Obama about it:
Talk like that might raise eyebrows in certain Republican circles, and stop the VP vetting process in its tracks. Except - the process never started. With all the talk about Rubio being on the short list, the Romney campaign has not and is not vetting Rubio for the job:
Has Rubio been crossed of the list? Was he ever on it? One has to wonder if the Republicans are looking for the 2016 Republican candidate (assuming Romney loses), and decided that Rubio was not it. The convention is just two months away, and Romney needs to make that commitment. The point of no return looms.
The actions have actually proven popular with voters, however, appealing to people's general sense of fairness. This latest action effectively removed any chance for Romney to score the Latino vote (not that he had much of chance to begin with). When asked, Romney - knowing that this is a popular action and not wanting to take a stand - would not say whether he would change that policy if elected (the exchange with Bob Scheiffer is too long to quote - it bears reading, though, so click through to the link).
To counteract this without alienating the Republican base, Romney's best chance would be to do something blatant like pick a Republican latino running mate, say... Marco Rubio? The problem with Rubio, of course, is that he has been supportive of this same type of approach to these young people brought over as children. In fact - he'd like to talk to President Obama about it:
Rubio is championing his own initiative that would provide non-immigrant visas to children of parents who came to the county illegally if they serve in the military or graduate from college, but his work on the measure was largely derailed by Obama's announcement.
[..]
"The president's is a two-year solution that expires after two years and does not really solve this in a lasting way. It just gets him through the election. ... The White House never called us about this. No one reached out to us and told us this was on its way..."
Talk like that might raise eyebrows in certain Republican circles, and stop the VP vetting process in its tracks. Except - the process never started. With all the talk about Rubio being on the short list, the Romney campaign has not and is not vetting Rubio for the job:
... knowledgeable Republican sources tell me that Rubio is not being vetted by Mitt Romney’s vice presidential search team. He has not been asked to complete any questionnaires or been asked to turn over any financial documents typically required of potential vice presidential candidates.
Although it is possible that Rubio may yet be asked to go through the vetting process, it has been nearly two months since Romney named his long-time aide Beth Myers to run his vice presidential search. The fact that Rubio has not been asked to turn over any documents by now is a strong indication that he is not on Romney’s short list of potential running mates.
Has Rubio been crossed of the list? Was he ever on it? One has to wonder if the Republicans are looking for the 2016 Republican candidate (assuming Romney loses), and decided that Rubio was not it. The convention is just two months away, and Romney needs to make that commitment. The point of no return looms.
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 06/20/2012 12:51:35
wickedpam on 06/20/2012 12:51:35
Morning 
*sigh* back at work
*sigh* back at work
Comment by 
Raine on 06/20/2012 13:10:35
good morning!
It is interesting that Rubio Cancelled his appearance on the Daily show last night... NYMag noted it as well. This being the Not getting Vetted story as mentioned in the blog.
I'm wondering why he is canceling appearances when he could just come out and say he isn't a candidate for VP.
Raine on 06/20/2012 13:10:35
good morning! It is interesting that Rubio Cancelled his appearance on the Daily show last night... NYMag noted it as well.
Marco Rubio spokesman Alex Conant explained that the Florida Senator could not make his scheduled appearance on The Daily Show on Tuesday "due to votes in Senate." Rubio will also miss his spot on Focal Point with American Family Association radio host Bryan Fischer on Wednesday. Surely it has nothing to do with this.
I'm wondering why he is canceling appearances when he could just come out and say he isn't a candidate for VP.
Comment by Raine on 06/20/2012 13:17:32
Raine on 06/20/2012 13:17:32
The Romney campaigned reacted to the ABC news story. ABC stands by its story.
"There was a story that originated today apparently at ABC based upon reports of supposedly outside unnamed advisers of mine. I can't imagine who such people are. But I can tell you this: they know nothing about the vice presidential selection or evaluation process. There are only two people in this country who know who are being vetted and who are not: And that's Beth Myers and myself. And I know Beth well. She doesn't talk to anybody. The story was entirely false. Marco Rubio is being thoroughly vetted as part of our process."
Comment by wickedpam on 06/20/2012 13:28:47
wickedpam on 06/20/2012 13:28:47
Could Mitt be confusing Spaetzle for noddles?
Comment by 
Scoopster on 06/20/2012 13:31:15
Scoopster on 06/20/2012 13:31:15
Comment by Raine on 06/20/2012 13:40:42
technically, they are noodles.
Technically.
Raine on 06/20/2012 13:40:42
Quote by wickedpam:
Could Mitt be confusing Spaetzle for noddles?
Technically.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/20/2012 13:43:49
exactly, hence his confusion with German food
wickedpam on 06/20/2012 13:43:49
Quote by Raine:technically, they are noodles.Quote by wickedpam:
Could Mitt be confusing Spaetzle for noddles?
Technically.
exactly, hence his confusion with German food
Comment by 
BobR on 06/20/2012 13:51:19
If only two people know whether he's getting vetted, then it's not much of a vetting process. Do they even know what "vetting" means?
BobR on 06/20/2012 13:51:19
Quote by Raine:
The Romney campaigned reacted to the ABC news story.ABC stands by its story."There was a story that originated today apparently at ABC based upon reports of supposedly outside unnamed advisers of mine. I can't imagine who such people are. But I can tell you this: they know nothing about the vice presidential selection or evaluation process. There are only two people in this country who know who are being vetted and who are not: And that's Beth Myers and myself. And I know Beth well. She doesn't talk to anybody. The story was entirely false. Marco Rubio is being thoroughly vetted as part of our process."
If only two people know whether he's getting vetted, then it's not much of a vetting process. Do they even know what "vetting" means?
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 13:53:13
Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 13:53:13
P-Funk! on Momma! 
:hacks: :coughs:
:hacks: :coughs:
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 06/20/2012 13:54:27
trojanrabbit on 06/20/2012 13:54:27
I guess they didn't want people clamoring for both Willard's and Marco's long form birf certifkits.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/20/2012 13:56:33
trojanrabbit on 06/20/2012 13:56:33
I'm sitting in a little restaurant across the street from where Mrs. Rabbit is having her therapy. And they have wi-fi. I'll probably leave soon, the place is getting full and I don't want to be taking up booth space.
Comment by BobR on 06/20/2012 14:01:47
He's probably confused by any food that doesn't involve mayonnaise.
BobR on 06/20/2012 14:01:47
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:technically, they are noodles.Quote by wickedpam:
Could Mitt be confusing Spaetzle for noddles?
Technically.
exactly, hence his confusion with German food
He's probably confused by any food that doesn't involve mayonnaise.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/20/2012 14:02:53
most likely
wickedpam on 06/20/2012 14:02:53
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:technically, they are noodles.Quote by wickedpam:
Could Mitt be confusing Spaetzle for noddles?
Technically.
exactly, hence his confusion with German food
He's probably confused by any food that doesn't involve mayonnaise.
most likely
Comment by Raine on 06/20/2012 14:03:48
Raine on 06/20/2012 14:03:48
I am dreading walking from the Train station to the office later today...
Comment by Raine on 06/20/2012 14:04:18
How is she doing?
Raine on 06/20/2012 14:04:18
Quote by trojanrabbit:
I'm sitting in a little restaurant across the street from where Mrs. Rabbit is having her therapy. And they have wi-fi. I'll probably leave soon, the place is getting full and I don't want to be taking up booth space.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/20/2012 14:07:18
is it a long walk?
wickedpam on 06/20/2012 14:07:18
Quote by Raine:
I am dreading walking from the Train station to the office later today...
is it a long walk?
Comment by Raine on 06/20/2012 14:18:20
Only a few blocks... but in this heat...
Raine on 06/20/2012 14:18:20
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
I am dreading walking from the Train station to the office later today...
is it a long walk?
Only a few blocks... but in this heat...
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:19:08
hot??
Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:19:08
Quote by Raine:
I am dreading walking from the Train station to the office later today...
hot??
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:19:29
Oy!
Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:19:29
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
I am dreading walking from the Train station to the office later today...
is it a long walk?
Only a few blocks... but in this heat...
Oy!
Comment by BobR on 06/20/2012 14:20:48
It's 90 right now, with the forecast to get to 100
BobR on 06/20/2012 14:20:48
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
I am dreading walking from the Train station to the office later today...
is it a long walk?
Only a few blocks... but in this heat...
Oy!
It's 90 right now, with the forecast to get to 100
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:23:35
Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:23:35
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:24:56
Oy!
Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:24:56
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
I am dreading walking from the Train station to the office later today...
is it a long walk?
Only a few blocks... but in this heat...
Oy!
It's 90 right now, with the forecast to get to 100
Oy!
Comment by Scoopster on 06/20/2012 14:26:11
Awesome!!
Scoopster on 06/20/2012 14:26:11
Awesome!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:30:32
Fookin' brilliant!
Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:30:32
Quote by Scoopster:
Awesome!!
Fookin' brilliant!
Comment by wickedpam on 06/20/2012 14:32:52
its gonna be steam downtown too - ick
wickedpam on 06/20/2012 14:32:52
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
I am dreading walking from the Train station to the office later today...
is it a long walk?
Only a few blocks... but in this heat...
its gonna be steam downtown too - ick
Comment by wickedpam on 06/20/2012 14:38:03
who cares about Steph, I want this for our new offices!
wickedpam on 06/20/2012 14:38:03
Quote by Mondobubba:
Shall we take up a collection to by the Transformer wine rack for Steph?
who cares about Steph, I want this for our new offices!
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:41:35
The shipping from Phoenix would be brutal.
Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:41:35
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
Shall we take up a collection to by the Transformer wine rack for Steph?
who cares about Steph, I want this for our new offices!
The shipping from Phoenix would be brutal.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/20/2012 14:45:59
not my money - the Big boss can afford it
wickedpam on 06/20/2012 14:45:59
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
Shall we take up a collection to by the Transformer wine rack for Steph?
who cares about Steph, I want this for our new offices!
The shipping from Phoenix would be brutal.
not my money - the Big boss can afford it
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:51:07
Let him know!
Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 14:51:07
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
Shall we take up a collection to by the Transformer wine rack for Steph?
who cares about Steph, I want this for our new offices!
The shipping from Phoenix would be brutal.
not my money - the Big boss can afford it
Let him know!
Comment by wickedpam on 06/20/2012 14:53:25
already emailed a pix
wickedpam on 06/20/2012 14:53:25
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
Shall we take up a collection to by the Transformer wine rack for Steph?
who cares about Steph, I want this for our new offices!
The shipping from Phoenix would be brutal.
not my money - the Big boss can afford it
Let him know!
already emailed a pix
Comment by wickedpam on 06/20/2012 15:29:43
wickedpam on 06/20/2012 15:29:43
awesome wine racks kilt the blog
Comment by Raine on 06/20/2012 15:48:30
I have the awesome....
I;m actually finishing a few things up before I head out to work...
Raine on 06/20/2012 15:48:30
Quote by wickedpam:
awesome wine racks kilt the blog
I have the awesome....
I;m actually finishing a few things up before I head out to work...
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 16:12:58
Did I miss something? Working? Office?
Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 16:12:58
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
awesome wine racks kilt the blog
I have the awesome....
I;m actually finishing a few things up before I head out to work...
Did I miss something? Working? Office?
Comment by BobR on 06/20/2012 16:25:19
fill-in call screener for the Thom Hartmann Program
BobR on 06/20/2012 16:25:19
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
awesome wine racks kilt the blog
I have the awesome....
I;m actually finishing a few things up before I head out to work...
Did I miss something? Working? Office?
fill-in call screener for the Thom Hartmann Program
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 16:42:15
So, if I had a burning desire to talk to Thom, I have an in? Cool.
Mondobubba on 06/20/2012 16:42:15
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
awesome wine racks kilt the blog
I have the awesome....
I;m actually finishing a few things up before I head out to work...
Did I miss something? Working? Office?
fill-in call screener for the Thom Hartmann Program
So, if I had a burning desire to talk to Thom, I have an in? Cool.
Comment by 
livingonli on 06/20/2012 17:15:55
livingonli on 06/20/2012 17:15:55
Good day, folks. It's a scorcher up here now and I got the heat advisory until 8 PM Thursday night.
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 06/20/2012 17:16:26
Will in Chicago on 06/20/2012 17:16:26
Hello, bloggers!!
BobR, I don't think that Romney wants anyone who will draw attention from him as veep, so probably the theme song for the Romney ticket should be "Born to be Mild."
It should be about 97 here -- and it is going up to 112 today in Phoenix where Jeff Farias is on the air on KXXT 1010 on the show Arizona at Work.
As for myself, I get to replace my cell phone which broke this morning. Hmm, maybe I will have some good luck to balance out the bad.
Keep cool everyone!
BobR, I don't think that Romney wants anyone who will draw attention from him as veep, so probably the theme song for the Romney ticket should be "Born to be Mild."
It should be about 97 here -- and it is going up to 112 today in Phoenix where Jeff Farias is on the air on KXXT 1010 on the show Arizona at Work.
As for myself, I get to replace my cell phone which broke this morning. Hmm, maybe I will have some good luck to balance out the bad.
Keep cool everyone!
Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2012 17:28:59
livingonli on 06/20/2012 17:28:59
KXXT I believe is the station that ran that bitchy right-winger who loudly proclaimed 3 times that she voted for the white guy in 2008.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/20/2012 17:57:36
That was KFNX at 1100 AM. Jeff Farias and Roman Ulman buy an hour a week at KXXT 1010 AM.
Will in Chicago on 06/20/2012 17:57:36
Quote by livingonli:
KXXT I believe is the station that ran that bitchy right-winger who loudly proclaimed 3 times that she voted for the white guy in 2008.
That was KFNX at 1100 AM. Jeff Farias and Roman Ulman buy an hour a week at KXXT 1010 AM.
Comment by livingonli on 06/20/2012 18:46:55
livingonli on 06/20/2012 18:46:55
According to facebook, Cher will be on hour 2 or today's Randi show.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/20/2012 21:00:27
Will in Chicago on 06/20/2012 21:00:27
Well, some good news and bad news.
In the good news, my applying to a job fairly close to TriSec was acknowledged with a return e-mail in two minutes. It is a job where they prefer a teacher with a Masters, as opposed to here where I would probably need to know where a local superintendent has buried the bodies.
In the bad news, my sister-in-law's Dad went to the hospital mid morning with chest pains.
In the good news, my applying to a job fairly close to TriSec was acknowledged with a return e-mail in two minutes. It is a job where they prefer a teacher with a Masters, as opposed to here where I would probably need to know where a local superintendent has buried the bodies.
In the bad news, my sister-in-law's Dad went to the hospital mid morning with chest pains.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/21/2012 01:26:47
She has a couple more weeks of therapy, then we'll see what the next step is. She can get around OK, but has no stamina at all.
trojanrabbit on 06/21/2012 01:26:47
Quote by Raine:How is she doing?Quote by trojanrabbit:
I'm sitting in a little restaurant across the street from where Mrs. Rabbit is having her therapy. And they have wi-fi. I'll probably leave soon, the place is getting full and I don't want to be taking up booth space.
She has a couple more weeks of therapy, then we'll see what the next step is. She can get around OK, but has no stamina at all.