The crux of it is that the ATF did not sell weapons - they monitored weapons sales, and then ran up against a brick wall of lax gun laws when they tried to get indictments. There was also infighting and backstabbing going on among the agents.
The big raison d'être for the start of the congressional investigation was the killing of a U.S. agent by guns supposedly sold by ATF agents to Mexican drug gangs. Except - that didn't actually happen:
I would like to see the Justice Department be able to do its job and find out how this information became public. I do have a sneaking suspicion that the GOP itself may not be as pleased with the results as they are with the ongoing witch hunt. Why? There are a number of people who think that it is quite possible that Darrell Issa may be behind these leaks. He's leaked information before, most recently, last month.WASHINGTON -- House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has taken the unprecedented step of leaking a secret U.S. trade document, in hopes of pressuring President Barack Obama's administration into disclosing the details of a major trade deal with far-reaching implications on everything from "Buy American" contracting rules to prescription drug prices to internet freedom.
Issa entered the sensitive, and previously undisclosed, information into the Congressional Record on Thursday during the floor debate leading up to the passage of his resolution placing Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress.
The powerful Republican might be protected from what otherwise would be a criminal offense under Congress’s speech and debate clause because the remarks were written into the public record during chamber proceedings. (snip)
The applications, which are under a federal court’s seal, were given to Issa by a mole with access to the documents. Issa has claimed they reveal that top-level Justice Department officials signed off on the documents and knew about the controversial “gun-walking” tactics used in Fast and Furious. Issa has called his source a “whistleblower” and refused to disclose his or her identity. (snip)
In testimony before the House Rules Committee this week, Issa told lawmakers that he had no evidence that Holder was responsible for Fast and Furious. But on Thursday, the California Republican successfully passed civil and criminal resolutions placing Holder in contempt for not responding to a congressional subpoena for documents.
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good morning!
How are you doing today, Mala? Office have electric and the flaven?
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Morning. Everybody in the DC wing has power again?
I saw a picture on Facebook from a friend who lives in Great Fall of what used to be his Subaru.
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Morning. Everybody in the DC wing has power again?
I saw a picture on Facebook from a friend who lives in Great Fall of what used to be his Subaru.
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Headline from Alternet today: "Are Mega-Corporations and Wall Street Killing Electronic Dance Music?" my reaction, who the fuck cares? Really Alternet? Really?
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Morning. Everybody in the DC wing has power again?
I saw a picture on Facebook from a friend who lives in Great Fall of what used to be his Subaru.
It surprises me you guys didn't lose power. That does suck to move into a new place and have no power
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Morning. Everybody in the DC wing has power again?
I saw a picture on Facebook from a friend who lives in Great Fall of what used to be his Subaru.
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Hmm... does the blog entry time read 01:07:13 AM for anyone else?
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Hmm... does the blog entry time read 01:07:13 AM for anyone else?
read 5:07:13am for me
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now its 9:07:13 - is the blog secretly a blue police box?
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now its 9:07:13 - is the blog secretly a blue police box?
There is javascript to change the time to your local timezone based on the info your browser provides. That's why it might seem to change after refreshing.
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Yes, I find this very annoying.
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Tri should be getting out of the hospital today.
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Tri should be getting out of the hospital today.
This is indeed good news!! I will presume that I am doing an Ask the Vet blog for tomorrow unless I her otherwise in the evening.
Raine, as none of the officials from the Bush administration who were involved in this program were called to testify, this makes it very political.
So, I suggest a counter move. Let some read Darryl Issa's criminal record into the Congressional record.
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Tri should be getting out of the hospital today.
This is indeed good news!! I will presume that I am doing an Ask the Vet blog for tomorrow unless I her otherwise in the evening.
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now its 9:07:13 - is the blog secretly a blue police box?
There is javascript to change the time to your local timezone based on the info your browser provides. That's why it might seem to change after refreshing.
javascript smavascript - I'm sticking with my tardis theory
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Tri should be getting out of the hospital today.
This is indeed good news!! I will presume that I am doing an Ask the Vet blog for tomorrow unless I her otherwise in the evening.
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Tri should be getting out of the hospital today.
This is indeed good news!! I will presume that I am doing an Ask the Vet blog for tomorrow unless I her otherwise in the evening.
I could make that call or text. Smoke signal, telegraphic message whatever...
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hello from the office!!
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hello from the office!!
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Hi all...TRISEC IS HOME!
So, what's been happening around here all week, anyway?
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Welcome back, TriSec. Right now, I am at work where we are running a replay of Saturday's Red Bulls @ Toronto FC game.
Mala, how are you managing the loss of AMC, We, and IFC on Dish?
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Hi all...TRISEC IS HOME!
So, what's been happening around here all week, anyway?
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Welcome back, TriSec. Right now, I am at work where we are running a replay of Saturday's Red Bulls @ Toronto FC game.
Mala, how are you managing the loss of AMC, We, and IFC on Dish?
I'm not happy
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Welcome back, TriSec. Right now, I am at work where we are running a replay of Saturday's Red Bulls @ Toronto FC game.
Mala, how are you managing the loss of AMC, We, and IFC on Dish?
I'm not happy
Be prepared for a long wait since the lawsuit over the Voom HD channels which Dish dropped back in 2008. It did not help when it was discovered that Dish destroyed evidence in their argument that Rainbow (now AMC Networks) was not spending enough on the channels which Dish argued was Rainbow's breach of contract rather than Dish for dropping the channels in the first place.
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Welcome back, TriSec. Right now, I am at work where we are running a replay of Saturday's Red Bulls @ Toronto FC game.
Mala, how are you managing the loss of AMC, We, and IFC on Dish?
I'm not happy
Be prepared for a long wait since the lawsuit over the Voom HD channels which Dish dropped back in 2008. It did not help when it was discovered that Dish destroyed evidence in their argument that Rainbow (now AMC Networks) was not spending enough on the channels which Dish argued was Rainbow's breach of contract rather than Dish for dropping the channels in the first place.
I'm trying to decide if I want to switch provider's - suck thing is I won't go to Direct (over priced) or Comcast (my sworn enemy). So that only leaves Fios and after this weekends phone fiasco I'm not so sure about that either. THis really kinda sucks
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Welcome back, TriSec. Right now, I am at work where we are running a replay of Saturday's Red Bulls @ Toronto FC game.
Mala, how are you managing the loss of AMC, We, and IFC on Dish?
I'm not happy
Be prepared for a long wait since the lawsuit over the Voom HD channels which Dish dropped back in 2008. It did not help when it was discovered that Dish destroyed evidence in their argument that Rainbow (now AMC Networks) was not spending enough on the channels which Dish argued was Rainbow's breach of contract rather than Dish for dropping the channels in the first place.
I'm trying to decide if I want to switch provider's - suck thing is I won't go to Direct (over priced) or Comcast (my sworn enemy). So that only leaves Fios and after this weekends phone fiasco I'm not so sure about that either. THis really kinda sucks
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Welcome back, TriSec. Right now, I am at work where we are running a replay of Saturday's Red Bulls @ Toronto FC game.
Mala, how are you managing the loss of AMC, We, and IFC on Dish?
I'm not happy
Be prepared for a long wait since the lawsuit over the Voom HD channels which Dish dropped back in 2008. It did not help when it was discovered that Dish destroyed evidence in their argument that Rainbow (now AMC Networks) was not spending enough on the channels which Dish argued was Rainbow's breach of contract rather than Dish for dropping the channels in the first place.
I'm trying to decide if I want to switch provider's - suck thing is I won't go to Direct (over priced) or Comcast (my sworn enemy). So that only leaves Fios and after this weekends phone fiasco I'm not so sure about that either. THis really kinda sucks
Comcast is your sworn enemy. I like that.