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Author: Raine    Date: 07/09/2012 15:46:53

From TPM:
President Obama will begin pushing for a one-year extension of the Bush tax cuts for Americans making less than $250,000, reports the New York Times. The announcement from the Rose Garden Monday will signal the president’s emphasis on tax fairness as a major issue just four months from the election. Pushing the issue is also meant to make House Republicans look unreasonable as they move this month to vote on a full, permanent extension of all of the Bush tax cuts.
This you will recall is exactly what the President wanted to have happen back in 2010. The tax cuts were unfortunately extended, but if you remember, it did pave the way or the repeal of Don't ask Don't Tell. From The Hill, December 1, 2010:
But a letter signed by all 42 members of the Senate GOP conference threatened to block action on other legislative items until a deal on the expiring Bush era tax cuts is reached. Such time-consuming negotiations could eat up the remaining time to take care of "Don't ask, don't tell" during the lame-duck, which is expected to end by mid-December.

Supporters of repeal received a boost Tuesday when Defense Secretary Robert Gates called on the Senate to repeal the policy after the Pentagon released a study showing that allowing gays to openly serve would cause no long-term disruptions in the military.
Indeed, the lame duck session of 2010 paved the way for people to serve openly in the military. The down side was that the Bush Era tax cuts were extended. During that time, President Obama held a teleconference where he said:
Now, I know there are some who would have preferred a protracted political fight, even if it had meant higher taxes for all Americans, even if it had meant an end to unemployment insurance for those who are desperately looking for work.

And I understand the desire for a fight. I'm sympathetic to that. I'm as opposed to the high-end tax cuts today as I've been for years. In the long run, we simply can't afford them. And when they expire in two years, I will fight to end them, just as I suspect the Republican Party may fight to end the middle-class tax cuts that I've championed and that they've opposed.
From the NYT article:
The president’s proposal could also put him at odds with Democratic leaders like Representative Nancy Pelosi of California and Senator Charles E. Schumer of New York, who have advocated extending the cuts for everyone who earns up to $1 million. And it will most likely do little to break the deadlock in Washington over how to deal with fiscal deficits, an impasse that has only hardened as Republicans sense a chance to make gains in Congress this fall.

But by calling for an extension for just a year, Mr. Obama hopes to make Republicans look obstructionist and unreasonable. Trying to bounce back from another weak jobs report on Friday, he also hopes to deepen the contrast with his challenger, Mitt Romney. On Friday, the president said Mr. Romney would “give $5 trillion of new tax cuts on top of the Bush tax cuts, most of them going to the wealthiest Americans.”
Dems are willing to secede the amount to one million and the President is asking for the amount to be those earning over $250,000 a year, just as he has been asking all along. I suspect, this time around we will find the number somewhere in between.
Administration officials said they did not believe that the difference between the White House and these Democratic leaders was a big obstacle. They said that whether to use $250,000 or $1 million as a cutoff was more a matter of strategy than a “religious debate,” in the words of one official, who added that many other Democrats favored $250,000.
Robert Gibbs has gone on the record saying:
the president would not support giving rich people another tax break. “Let’s make some progress on our spending by doing away with tax cuts for people who quite frankly don’t need them – tax cuts that haven’t worked,” Gibbs said during an appearance on CNN’s State of the Union. Obama is “100% committed” to that position, he insisted.


I will say it here: I don't believe we will see these tax cuts extended again. With less that four months until election day, this is the fight the administration is choosing. The GOP is choosing to fight back, with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) saying on CNN:
“What we ought to be doing is extend the current tax rates for another year, {..} to do otherwise would make the economy worse.”
They are like a broken clock. If these tax cuts have been so wonderful, then tell me, why is the economy still struggling? These tax cuts have been in place for 11 years. During that period, 8 of those years were during the Bush Administraion, WaPo wrote in 2009:
President Bush has presided over the weakest eight-year span for the U.S. economy in decades, according to an analysis of key data, and economists across the ideological spectrum increasingly view his two terms as a time of little progress on the nation's thorniest fiscal challenges.

The number of jobs in the nation increased by about 2 percent during Bush's tenure, the most tepid growth over any eight-year span since data collection began seven decades ago. Gross domestic product, a broad measure of economic output, grew at the slowest pace for a period of that length since the Truman administration. And Americans' incomes grew more slowly than in any presidency since the 1960s, other than that of Bush's father.
Keep in mind, Bush entered office with no wars, a booming economy and a budget surplus of over $320 billion.


Since taking office, we have seen job growth, in spite of every obstacle the Republican party has thrown. These are the stats: 4.4 MILLION Private sector jobs added over the last 28 months; 504,000 Manufacturing jobs added since January 2010; 1+ MILLION Jobs saved due to the President’s auto rescue program. Click the link, the stats doesn't lie. Even with the poor June jobs report, those 80,000 jobs added were still more than the number of jobs added during the 8 years under President Bush. This despite a job package being gutted by House GOP members among many other things blocked. A simple google search can be very revealing. This is a fact: President Obama entered the oval office with two wars ongoing, an economy in meltdown a loss of 524 thousand jobs jobs the month before he took office and was saddled with a budget debt of $4.89 Trillion. Somehow, thru all of this he has managed to create jobs.

The GOP is running out of excuses to extend these tax cuts. Take a look at this chart from ThinkProgress:
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/taxesrichjobs.png
People want jobs. People want to work. People want the economy moving steadily forward.

You won't get that with Governor rMoney as president - you get even more tax cuts for the wealthy, 5 Trillion dollars worth. President Obama has been consistent and steadfast. He promised to return to this issue in 2010. Last time around we saw DADT repealed, we have had the ACA upheld in court -- he is keeping his promises in spite of the obstacles thrown his way. Don't believe me? Look here. The GOP fought EVERY one of those items.

We will see tax fairness this year. I believe the GOP has run out of excuses. Obama gave them the tax cut extension 2 years ago, in return for DADT being repealed-- and the economy reacted exactly as many suspected. While some may criticize President Obama for not doing things fast enough, perhaps the long game is worth it in the end.

and
Raine
 

46 comments (Latest Comment: 07/09/2012 23:46:00 by Will in Chicago)
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Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2012 12:59:05
Morning BroMo is back in the hospital

Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2012 13:08:10
Morning


Hope its nothing too serious

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2012 13:09:19
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning


Hope its nothing too serious



He seems to have an infection in his incision.

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 13:14:09
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning


Hope its nothing too serious



He seems to have an infection in his incision.
Oh crap.


Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2012 13:16:10
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning


Hope its nothing too serious



He seems to have an infection in his incision.
Oh crap.


Well that sucks

Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2012 13:26:45
Morning, comrades.

No offence intended, but I'm feeling like Livin these days with my altered sleeping habits. I'll be glad when that starts to settle down again.

Is there nobody in good health among the extended blog family these days?



Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 13:46:28
I am really hating Summer time and the politics...

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 14:01:46
HAve no fear! A blog is being constructed as we speak. In the meantime, I highly recommend a read of this piece from SCOTUSblog. It's a great breakdown on how the news got thisng SO wrong.



Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2012 14:05:42
Trouble at the Blog worksite:



Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2012 14:15:05
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning


Hope its nothing too serious



He seems to have an infection in his incision.
Oh crap.



Surgery, drainage, more hospital. Does this sound familar to you?

Comment by BobR on 07/09/2012 14:18:37
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.

No offence intended, but I'm feeling like Livin these days with my altered sleeping habits. I'll be glad when that starts to settle down again.

Is there nobody in good health among the extended blog family these days?

Things "normal" with my family...

Comment by velveeta jones on 07/09/2012 14:24:48
Morning!!!

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 14:34:02
Quote by velveeta jones:
Morning!!!



Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2012 14:36:36
We'll first of all don't use the term "you people". Nothing pisses me off more then getting the "you people" thrown at me

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 14:43:35
Quote by wickedpam:
We'll first of all don't use the term "you people". Nothing pisses me off more then getting the "you people" thrown at me
I hate that finger pointing crap.


Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2012 14:47:11
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
We'll first of all don't use the term "you people". Nothing pisses me off more then getting the "you people" thrown at me
I hate that finger pointing crap.



its a crutch for some people to get their way and blaming others. working in customer service for years I would hear it on a daily basis, multiple times a day. When someone did that I would find a way not to help them. (I was not a very good cust. service rep )

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2012 15:22:22
Quote by wickedpam:
We'll first of all don't use the term "you people". Nothing pisses me off more then getting the "you people" thrown at me



Ughhh! Slowly I turned... I think I might hate that more than you do, Mala. It is so lazy and so pejorative. It automatically puts up the shields. People seem utterly clueless about how offensive "You people" sounds.

Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2012 15:34:14
Mornin' all & Happy Mondee..

I'm so fatigued today.. feel like I'm gonna literally pass out (the bad kind).



Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2012 15:37:47
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2012 15:42:32
Quote by Scoopster:
Gov. Rick Scott cuts state health personnel and hospitals in the middle of a growing FL tuberculosis epidemic

Just another case of Nero fiddling while Rome burns..



Governor Skeletor is such a massive tool! I felt my rage building when I was pulling into the parking lot at work when the local news on the NPR Mosheen. The TB outbreak is here, a couple people have died. Can we settle the debate now? Rick Scott is the worst governor in America.

Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2012 15:49:02
Well gang...I'm still planning on being out until about August 1. I am about to embark on a major movie and gaming binge here...any and all suggestions are welcome.



Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 15:50:58
New blog is up. It still needs editing, but it also appears our server is burpingthis morning, so please have patience?

Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2012 15:55:43
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Scoopster:
Gov. Rick Scott cuts state health personnel and hospitals in the middle of a growing FL tuberculosis epidemic

Just another case of Nero fiddling while Rome burns..


Governor Skeletor is such a massive tool! I felt my rage building when I was pulling into the parking lot at work when the local news on the NPR Mosheen. The TB outbreak is here, a couple people have died. Can we settle the debate now? Rick Scott is the worst governor in America.

Now I'm reading a diary on DK that mentions the outbreak was hush-hushed by the county, and combined with the cutbacks the epidemic has spread to three other states.

Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2012 15:57:14
Quote by TriSec:
Well gang...I'm still planning on being out until about August 1. I am about to embark on a major movie and gaming binge here...any and all suggestions are welcome.

Gaming eh? Could be good timing - I hear Steam's about to commence their summer sales craziness.

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 16:33:22
No bloggy lerve?

Comment by wickedpam on 07/09/2012 16:47:40
You know, sometimes I think he's trying to force them to negotiate but they simple refuse to budge even a millimeter

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 16:51:29
Oh this is good...
Instead, the House on Wednesday will take up the repeal measure after the Affordable Care Act’s constitutionality was upheld, and amid growing misgivings that relitigating the issue now will make Republicans seem out of touch — especially when party leaders are still without an alternative.

“Anytime Republicans are debating taxes and the economy, we’re winning,” said a veteran Republican campaign consultant who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid publicly crossing his party’s leadership. “Anytime we’re debating health care, they’re winning.”
Bold face mine.

Consider this, Today's blog is all about Obama bringing the tax fight back -- and instead, the GOP is talking ACA.

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 16:53:29
Quote by wickedpam:
You know, sometimes I think he's trying to force them to negotiate but they simple refuse to budge even a millimeter
Yup.

Funny thing he somehow managesto get a little something from them every time. DADT was a big one, but consider all the other times -- When the GOP tries to take it to POTUS, they always give ground, it seems.

I almost wish they would fight with him more. We might have gotten the paycheck Fairness act.


Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 17:00:22
Quote by Raine:
Oh this is good...
Instead, the House on Wednesday will take up the repeal measure after the Affordable Care Act’s constitutionality was upheld, and amid growing misgivings that relitigating the issue now will make Republicans seem out of touch — especially when party leaders are still without an alternative.

“Anytime Republicans are debating taxes and the economy, we’re winning,” said a veteran Republican campaign consultant who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid publicly crossing his party’s leadership. “Anytime we’re debating health care, they’re winning.”
Bold face mine.

Consider this, Today's blog is all about Obama bringing the tax fight back -- and instead, the GOP is talking ACA.
LEt me put it more clearly: they have cracks all over the place right now.

Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2012 17:02:44
Good day, folks. I know the week sucks when my days off are Monday and Tuesday since that doesn't sound like a weekend to me. But because of the all-star break, the work demand is lowest during the week. This weekend, not only is baseball back but there is NBA Summer League with a week of Knicks exhibition games with the new recruits from Vegas to see who makes the team.

Comment by Scoopster on 07/09/2012 17:20:24
Quote by Raine:
Oh this is good...
Instead, the House on Wednesday will take up the repeal measure after the Affordable Care Act’s constitutionality was upheld, and amid growing misgivings that relitigating the issue now will make Republicans seem out of touch — especially when party leaders are still without an alternative.

“Anytime Republicans are debating taxes and the economy, we’re winning,” said a veteran Republican campaign consultant who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid publicly crossing his party’s leadership. “Anytime we’re debating health care, they’re winning.”
Bold face mine.

Consider this, Today's blog is all about Obama bringing the tax fight back -- and instead, the GOP is talking ACA.

The best part is they think they're talking about taxes with health care now!

Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2012 17:33:22
Sam Seder is talking about Rick Scott and the unreported TB outbreak in Florida. If the media is so liberal, why isn't this story being reported to make Skeletor look bad?

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2012 18:03:33
Quote by livingonli:
Sam Seder is talking about Rick Scott and the unreported TB outbreak in Florida. If the media is so liberal, why isn't this story being reported to make Skeletor look bad?



Because homeless junkies don't count.

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 18:25:59
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Oh this is good...
Instead, the House on Wednesday will take up the repeal measure after the Affordable Care Act’s constitutionality was upheld, and amid growing misgivings that relitigating the issue now will make Republicans seem out of touch — especially when party leaders are still without an alternative.

“Anytime Republicans are debating taxes and the economy, we’re winning,” said a veteran Republican campaign consultant who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid publicly crossing his party’s leadership. “Anytime we’re debating health care, they’re winning.”
Bold face mine.

Consider this, Today's blog is all about Obama bringing the tax fight back -- and instead, the GOP is talking ACA.

The best part is they think they're talking about taxes with health care now!
{ding}



Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 18:43:29
Joe Walsh doubles triples down...




Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2012 18:50:40
Quote by Raine:
Joe Walsh doubles triples down...





Joan Walsh is right he is the most appalling Congressman.

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 18:56:20
I'd like to know more about this kids parents. I remember him when he first hit the*scene* and I wondered then where he got all that information.

HE's a smart kid, and to be really honest, if he were to take a turn back toward conservatism, I believe it wouldbea choice he makes upon logic and reasoning -- rather than knee jerk hysteria that we see from the right.

That said, no matter where he lands politically, he is a smart child and allowed himself to think rather than react. Sometimes I think that is a far more respectable thing than just saying you are left or right -- having a reason why is critical to discourse.


Comment by Raine on 07/09/2012 19:11:15
Randi is still on Vacation? I guess I'll listen to the boss today.

Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2012 19:11:54
Thom is talking about Rick Scott and the TB cover up.

Comment by livingonli on 07/09/2012 19:12:40
Quote by Raine:
Randi is still on Vacation? I guess I'll listen to the boss today.

Randi was on Thursday and Friday unless those were best-ofs.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/09/2012 20:25:06
Hello, bloggers!

Raine, thanks for a good blog. I think that we will see a debate on the tax issues. However, I am not sure this Congress will do anything.

In some bad news, my car has a brake fluid leak. However, I should be able to get it fixed soon.

Sorry that I am so late, but I am catching up on all the yard work that I had to put off during the heat wave. Also, as we need some good news, the central air conditioning is fixed and better than ever -- even more energy efficient.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2012 20:57:28
Will, did you see my upated fiber comment from Fridee? If no, thanks for the explaination. It has been far more nuanced than I've been able to get from my cousin, the convert (long story).

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/09/2012 21:57:18
Quote by Mondobubba:
Will, did you see my upated fiber comment from Fridee? If no, thanks for the explaination. It has been far more nuanced than I've been able to get from my cousin, the convert (long story).

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Yes, and I was glad to explain. You might find a lot more on Judaism and Jewish practices at MyJewishLearning.com.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2012 22:01:18
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Will, did you see my upated fiber comment from Fridee? If no, thanks for the explaination. It has been far more nuanced than I've been able to get from my cousin, the convert (long story).

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Yes, and I was glad to explain. You might find a lot more on Judaism and Jewish practices at MyJewishLearning.com.



I know a lot about Jewish practices, I was blessed growing up to live in a target rich environment for such things. I got to go to many a bar mitzvah as a wee Mondo. many sleep overs at my friend Howard's.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/09/2012 23:46:00
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Will, did you see my upated fiber comment from Fridee? If no, thanks for the explaination. It has been far more nuanced than I've been able to get from my cousin, the convert (long story).

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Yes, and I was glad to explain. You might find a lot more on Judaism and Jewish practices at MyJewishLearning.com.



I know a lot about Jewish practices, I was blessed growing up to live in a target rich environment for such things. I got to go to many a bar mitzvah as a wee Mondo. many sleep overs at my friend Howard's.



Glad to help answer questions. Anytime where we can learn something from each other, particularly across lines of culture and faith, we benefit as a society.