Stand for something, or fall for anything Author: RaineDate:09/10/2012 16:17:53
If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything. Malcolm X
I bring this quote up today, because I am truthfully bewildered. I posed a question last night on my Facebook page. I stated it was not rhetorical and was serious: Is there any issue that Romney has been steadfast about?
9 AM: Romney told Gregory he “likes parts of” Obamacare, and that he would leave in place the prohibition against excluding people with pre-existing conditions and the policy that lets young adults stay on their parents’ insurance policies “up to whatever age they might like,” Romney said, rather unbelievably. “I say we’re going to replace Obamacare. And I’m replacing it with my own plan. And even in Massachusetts when I was governor, our plan there deals with pre-existing conditions and with young people.”
11 AM: The preexisting coverage plan would prevent re-rating of patients or exclusion of coverage if they go from an individually purchased plan to an employer plan or the reverse. (ERISA already protects those who move from one group plan to another.) For those first entering the insurance market, states will have the latitude to develop mechanisms such as high-risk pools for those hard-to-insure individuals.
4:55 PM In reference to how Romney would deal with those with young adults who want to remain on their parents’ plans, a Romney aide responded that there had been no change in Romney’s position and that “in a competitive environment, the marketplace will make available plans that include coverage for what there is demand for. He was not proposing a federal mandate to require insurance plans to offer those particular features.”
9:45 PM “Gov. Romney will ensure that discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage is prohibited,” the aide said.
Mitt Romney promised to fight marijuana legalization “tooth and nail,” and he lost his cool with a Colorado reporter who asked him about the medical cannabis issue last May. So Ryan was forced to backtrack on Saturday, when a Ryan spokesperson claimed that Ryan “agrees with Mitt Romney that marijuana should never be legalized.”
In other words, Ryan woke up on Friday as a congressman with a firmly anti-marijuana voting record. He abandoned that view during a trip to a swing state where the marijuana issue is hot, and then backtracked the very next day. And he did this all in the very same weekend when he proclaimed that he did not vote for the defense cuts he recently voted for.
MITT ROMNEY: Well, I want to maintain defense spending at the current level of the GDP. I don’t want to keep bringing it down as the president’s doing. This sequestration idea of the White House, which is cutting our defense, I think is an extraordinary miscalculation in the wrong direction.
DAVID GREGORY: Republican leaders agreed to that deal to the extend the debt ceiling.
MITT ROMNEY: And that’s a big mistake. I thought it was a mistake on the part of the White House to propose it. I think it was a mistake for Republicans to go along with it.
Later that day, Paul Ryan, a member of the panel that decided to vote for sequestration gave an interview to Nora O'Donnell.
O’DONNELL: Now you’re criticizing the President for those same defense cuts you’re voting for and called a victory.
RYAN: No, no — I have to correct on you this, Norah. I voted for a mechanism that says the sequester will occur if we don’t cut $1.2 trillion in government. … We can get into this nomenclature; I voted for the Budget Control Act. But the Obama Administration proposed $478 billion in defense cuts. We don’t agree with that, our budget rejected that, and then on top of that is another $500 billion in defense cuts in the sequester.
O’DONNELL: Right. A trillion dollars in defense spending, and you voted for it!
RYAN: No, Norah. I voted for the Budget Control Act.
O’DONNELL: That included defense spending!
RYAN: Norah, you’re mistaken.
Nora wasn't mistaken. This is just one assessment of the Budget Control Act:
Joint Committee on Deficit Reduction The Budget Control Act establishes the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction to identify $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction over the period of fiscal years (FYs) 2012-2021. The joint committee is simply charged with achieving deficit reduction with no restrictions on how they accomplish the net reductions in the deficit. (snip)
Sequestration If the joint committee is unable to achieve$1.5 trillion in deficit reduction, then two things will happen. First, the amount of additional borrowing will be limited to $1.2 trillion rather than $1.5 trillion. Also, a sequestration process is triggered to cut spending cuts of $1.2 trillion if no deficit reduction is achieved by the joint committee or of the amount of the difference between the amount of deficit reduction achieved and $1.2 trillion.
He wasn't just a voting member of congress. He is the Chairman of the House Budget committee. This is his press release from November 2011, after the committee failed to reach a compromise that would lead to the trigger. This is what he is denying. Basically, Paul Ryan was for the sequestration, before he was against it. HE is definitely a member of the Romney campaign now. I wrote about the "trigger" in November 2012.
These two men can't even get their own stories straight. The do not know what they are representing. I don't think they truly know who they want to represent. They will lie to anyone about anything to look like they are trying to stand for something, and to be really honest, how can anyone believe anything they say? When I think of the Romney/Ryan campaign these days, this is what I think of:
The problem is - this isn't a game. This is about the direction of our nation and policies that affect people in a very literal sense.
Malcolm X said it first, but singer Aaron Tippin deserves a little credit as well. This song is running thru my head these days.
If Romney and Ryan don't stand for anything with any consistency, why would anyone think for one minute they would stand up for the middle class?
Maybe they really believe Americans are stupid enough to fall for anything. I don't believe that for one minute. Then again, I'm not Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan.
I am going to hope that we see a lot more in the debates. Romney seems to be keeping an unusually low profile. So, I wonder if a lot of Republican Party insiders are preparing for 2016.
So, I wonder how Mitt and his allies are reacting to the information in this story from CNN:
(CNN) - President Barack Obama's re-election campaign and supporting committees brought in more than $114 million last month – the first time the incumbent has outraised his opponent, Gov. Mitt Romney, since April.
Obama’s Campaign Manager Jim Messina announced the figure for August late Sunday night.
omney’s campaign brought in $111 million last month.
But for three months in a row – June, July, August – Romney’s camp brought in more than $100 million, with $106 million in June and $101 million in July.
“No celebrating, because they're going to have an even bigger September. But now we know we can match them, doing this our way,†tweeted the Obama campaign.
I had a Cub Scout recruiting rally at our "friendly" school (The new Principal at the bane of my existence school is a putz.)
In the office hours late....now playing catchup.
And look at Sunday's blog for my dismay over the LDS training materials.
Comment byMondobubba on 09/10/2012 16:01:11
Morons at my company have crashed our email server. Every asshat has replied to all to an email letting people know the planned upgrades to the mail server have been completed. Good going guys! :rage:
It's not like I use Outlook at all.
Comment bywickedpam on 09/10/2012 16:03:27
Quote by Mondobubba: Morons at my company have crashed our email server. Every asshat has replied to all to an email letting people know the planned upgrades to the mail server have been completed. Good going guys! :rage:
Reading the blog....I posted Romney's healthcare position on FB myself yesterday with this..."Repeal" is different than "Keep Parts of".
And remember, Kerry was a flip-flopper. Romney has made enough to keep LL Bean supplied for the next four years, methinks. I gotta write that blog about what he did in Massachusetts...
Comment byMondobubba on 09/10/2012 17:14:06
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba: Morons at my company have crashed our email server. Every asshat has replied to all to an email letting people know the planned upgrades to the mail server have been completed. Good going guys! :rage:
It's not like I use Outlook at all.
that's....a little... ironic .......
Funny thing, I was sitting a table over from the mail server dude at lunch. People hitting reply all caused 30K email to be sent.
Comment byScoopster on 09/10/2012 17:15:45
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba: Morons at my company have crashed our email server. Every asshat has replied to all to an email letting people know the planned upgrades to the mail server have been completed. Good going guys! :rage:
It's not like I use Outlook at all.
that's....a little... ironic .......
Funny thing, I was sitting a table over from the mail server dude at lunch. People hitting reply all caused 30K email to be sent.
Comment bylivingonli on 09/10/2012 17:19:28
Good day, everyone. I feel like I am dealing with my own sleep issues which don't help when you work until 2 AM and don't get to bed until almost 6 AM. Roomie's down in the Carolinas looking at new places so it's just me and the cat at home this week. I wonder if the Romney campaign just decides to reset the etch-a-sketch several times a day (and hope it doesn't break).
Comment byWill in Chicago on 09/10/2012 17:22:57
Raine, thanks for a great blog. What is amazing to me is that Romney and Ryan believe that no one will hold them to account for their past statements. They sound more like stereotypes of used car salesmen than people running for national office.
I think that the Obama campaign must be amused at the contradictions. However, one has to ask what policies Romney and Ryan will pursue. I suspect that their administration would merely be what Grover Norquist desires -- people who can just sign anything that he pushes through Congress.
With all these flip flops, I would suggest a new campaign headquarters for the Romney-Ryan campaign.:
Comment byBobR on 09/10/2012 17:33:54
Quote by TriSec: Reading the blog....I posted Romney's healthcare position on FB myself yesterday with this..."Repeal" is different than "Keep Parts of".
And remember, Kerry was a flip-flopper. Romney has made enough to keep LL Bean supplied for the next four years, methinks. I gotta write that blog about what he did in Massachusetts...
I know Kerry was for the war before he was against it - because he was initially lied to about the evidence, and fell for the lie. Did he have any other flip-flops? (it's been 8 yrs and I don't really remember) Kerry didn't win that election, but not likely because of that.
Anyway, that kind of flip-flopping is amateur hour compared to Romney and Ryan. Changing their positions several times over the course of a few days is truly astounding.
Comment byWill in Chicago on 09/10/2012 17:37:18
Quote by BobR:
Quote by TriSec: Reading the blog....I posted Romney's healthcare position on FB myself yesterday with this..."Repeal" is different than "Keep Parts of".
And remember, Kerry was a flip-flopper. Romney has made enough to keep LL Bean supplied for the next four years, methinks. I gotta write that blog about what he did in Massachusetts...
I know Kerry was for the war before he was against it - because he was initially lied to about the evidence, and fell for the lie. Did he have any other flip-flops? (it's been 8 yrs and I don't really remember) Kerry didn't win that election, but not likely because of that.
Anyway, that kind of flip-flopping is amateur hour compared to Romney and Ryan. Changing their positions several times over the course of a few days is truly astounding.
Changing positions within 12 hours is almost beyond belief. I think that the issue of credibility is something that Romney and Ryan will struggle with this fall.
Comment byMondobubba on 09/10/2012 17:41:02
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba: Morons at my company have crashed our email server. Every asshat has replied to all to an email letting people know the planned upgrades to the mail server have been completed. Good going guys! :rage:
It's not like I use Outlook at all.
that's....a little... ironic .......
Funny thing, I was sitting a table over from the mail server dude at lunch. People hitting reply all caused 30K email to be sent.
Yep. As the IT dude put it, "I can do pretty much anything, but I can't fix stupid."
Comment byTriSec on 09/10/2012 17:46:28
Quote by Mondobubba:
Yep. As the IT dude put it, "I can do pretty much anything, but I can't fix stupid."
This is where you should just pull the fire alarm and go home. (Not really, but you get my drift.)
Comment byTriSec on 09/10/2012 17:57:06
Question for the assembled:
Since my candidate lost to the Prick (who also disparaged my candidate's military service in a debate - I won't vote for that shit.), would it be spiteful of me to vote for the Republican?
(I know her personally....like I told folks this past weekend, I like her well enough, but I don't think any Republican should be making policy in this state.)
I guess I could always turn in a blank....or write in Joe's name.
I was thinking it was a dead cat bounce myself, but a picture is worth a thousand words.
Comment byBobR on 09/10/2012 19:22:10
Quote by TriSec: Question for the assembled:
Since my candidate lost to the Prick (who also disparaged my candidate's military service in a debate - I won't vote for that shit.), would it be spiteful of me to vote for the Republican?
(I know her personally....like I told folks this past weekend, I like her well enough, but I don't think any Republican should be making policy in this state.)
I guess I could always turn in a blank....or write in Joe's name.