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Brother Romney Opens Up and talks of Death
Author: Raine    Date: 10/08/2012 13:58:41

After 8 years of running for President, this weekend marked a milestone for the perpetually running candidate: he shared with people parts of his personal life. CNN reports:
Another new staple of his stump speech: the stories of three Americans whose deaths touched Romney. The candidate spent time each day telling audiences about helping write a will for a 14-year-old with leukemia, as well as the death of a disabled friend.

"I know something about great human beings in this country," he said. "It's that that gives me the confidence that our future will be so bright, because I've seen how Americans respond to challenge, and even to tragedy."
WaPo tells us about his friend, Billy:
“It’s not easy for Billy to get around quadriplegic. . . . He can’t move, of course, his arms and his legs, and he can barely speak, and they brought him forward, a big crowd around him, very hot,” Romney said. “I reached down and I put my hand on Billy’s shoulder and I whispered into his ear. I said, ‘Billy, God bless you. I love ya.’ And he whispered right back to me — and I couldn’t quite hear what he said. He tried to speak loud enough for me to hear. He died the next day.”
The next story was of a young David Oparowski, a 14 year old boy dying of leukemia.
Mr. Romney helped write his will.
“It was clear he was not going to make it,” Romney said. “I went into his room one night when he was in bed, and he asked me a very difficult question. He said, ‘Mitt, what’s next?’ He called me ‘Brother Romney.’ ‘What’s next?’ And I talked to him about what I believe is next.”

A few days later, when David was in the hospital, he called Romney.

“I was at work and he said, ‘Can you come by?’ And he said, ‘You went to law school, right?’ ”

Romney told him that he had. “He said, ‘Could you come by and write my will for me?’ ” Romney recalled. “So I went to David’s bedside and got a piece of legal paper, made it look very official. And then David proceeded to tell me what he wanted to give his friends. Talked about his fishing rod, and who would get that. He talked about his skateboard, who’d get that. And his rifle — that went to his brother.”

“I’ve seen the character of a young man like David,” Romney continued. “He had his eyes wide open. There’s a saying: Clear eyes, full heart, can’t lose. David couldn’t lose. I loved that young man.”
His third personal story was of Jane Horton:
a woman from Oklahoma the candidate met at the Republican convention. Horton's husband was killed in Afghanistan days before the 10th anniversary of 9/11, and his funeral was protested by members of the Westboro Baptist Church.

"They came to the funeral of her husband, and she was asked, 'What do you think of that?' And this is the quote. She said this: 'Chris died for them to be able to protest,'" Romney said.


I understand what the strategy is here. Ann Romney has been begging people to let Mitt be Mitt. She wants people to see the caring loving man she thinks he is. She wants to humanize him, as it were. After 8 years of painstakingly trying to keep his personal life private, these are the stories Mr. Romney is choosing to share. These are the stories that show his softer side. It's stunning that after all these years, this is the tact he is taking: talking about how death has touched his life. Call me jaded, but it just seems creepy.


Maybe this is all an M. Night Shyamalan movie after all: The Mitts Sense.

and
Raine
 

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Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 13:18:53
Beat me to it, but I have a minor topic!

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 13:20:29
http://www.fourfreedomsblog.com/Blog.php?Act=ViewBlogPost&BlogID=2116

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 13:20:55
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 14:04:14
Mitt creeps me out. There, I said it.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 14:05:47
Quote by Mondobubba:
Mitt creeps me out. There, I said it.
I had a hard time writing this without being too snarky, but these stories are just, creepy.


Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 14:06:39
Quote by Mondobubba:
Blog with topic of a sort
Thanks to you and TriSec for the stubs!.


Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2012 14:07:46
Re-Post:

I am very pleased to report that I earned this knot this weekend at SOAR.

It shall be on my uniform in time for the next meeting.

Change is coming, but as I told the gentleman that I spoke to (who in turn handed me the patch as a "friendly"), it will have to come from the bottom up. National will never change a thing; it's up to us in the trenches. If enough scouts and scouters "get it" (which I think most of us do), it will eventually percolate up the chain as the volunteers advance.

And scouts is still a mostly volunteer-run organization; there's very few Professional Scouters per capita.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Scouting_for_All_Rainbow_Knot.png


Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 14:08:58
Quote by TriSec:
Re-Post:

I am very pleased to report that I earned this knot this weekend at SOAR.

It shall be on my uniform in time for the next meeting.

Change is coming, but as I told the gentleman that I spoke to (who in turn handed me the patch as a "friendly"), it will have to come from the bottom up. National will never change a thing; it's up to us in the trenches. If enough scouts and scouters "get it" (which I think most of us do), it will eventually percolate up the chain as the volunteers advance.

And scouts is still a mostly volunteer-run organization; there's very few Professional Scouters per capita.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Scouting_for_All_Rainbow_Knot.png
I love that badge!


Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2012 14:14:12
why do I suddenly get this image of Mitt

http://www.mysticalpassage.com/files/12614.jpg


Comment by BobR on 10/08/2012 14:14:13
Quote by TriSec:
Re-Post:

I am very pleased to report that I earned this knot this weekend at SOAR.

It shall be on my uniform in time for the next meeting.

Change is coming, but as I told the gentleman that I spoke to (who in turn handed me the patch as a "friendly"), it will have to come from the bottom up. National will never change a thing; it's up to us in the trenches. If enough scouts and scouters "get it" (which I think most of us do), it will eventually percolate up the chain as the volunteers advance.

And scouts is still a mostly volunteer-run organization; there's very few Professional Scouters per capita.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Scouting_for_All_Rainbow_Knot.png

I responded in the other blog, but I'll say it again: Congrats!

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2012 14:14:41
The GOP has nothing positive. It's always death and dismay with these guys.



Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 14:23:13
Quote by wickedpam:
why do I suddenly get this image of Mitt

http://www.mysticalpassage.com/files/12614.jpg
I was thinking more along the lines of the Death eaters.

You know, that WaPo article was just a really strange piece. I didn't include this part in the blog,
At a waterfront park in downtown St. Petersburg, a crowd of more than 5,500 stood rapt listening to him speak, many with tears welling in their eyes. “Ohhhhh,” they gasped. And with that, the Romney campaign’s all-out effort to reveal the nominee’s character and compassion received a boost: A politician with an aversion to telling personal stories was, at long last, telling them.


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 14:31:40
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Mitt creeps me out. There, I said it.
I had a hard time writing this without being too snarky, but these stories are just, creepy.



There is clearly something very off with the Mittbot's programing. Perhaps a consult with Noonien Soong would help.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 14:33:36

DU Exclusive: Gravis Marketing exposed as a fraud

I knew something was up with this firm.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2012 14:34:01
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
why do I suddenly get this image of Mitt

http://www.mysticalpassage.com/files/12614.jpg
I was thinking more along the lines of the Death eaters.

You know, that WaPo article was just a really strange piece. I didn't include this part in the blog,
At a waterfront park in downtown St. Petersburg, a crowd of more than 5,500 stood rapt listening to him speak, many with tears welling in their eyes. “Ohhhhh,” they gasped. And with that, the Romney campaign’s all-out effort to reveal the nominee’s character and compassion received a boost: A politician with an aversion to telling personal stories was, at long last, telling them.



I can see that -

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3654/3526180895_69b56a0ab0.jpg


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 14:48:59
Am I the only person in my office who understand how to use email properly?

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 14:49:08
Quote by Raine:

DU Exclusive: Gravis Marketing exposed as a fraud

I knew something was up with this firm.
Please take note that it was the GOP that is trying to say the polls are skewed -- the responses in this thread have a tremendous about of extra research.

I hope that NAte Silver and others (TPM as well) STOP using this firm as a polling data source. It's a fraud.

Rassmussen is more reliable than this.


Comment by BobR on 10/08/2012 15:02:27
Quote by Raine:
I was thinking more along the lines of the Death eaters.

You know, that WaPo article was just a really strange piece. I didn't include this part in the blog,
At a waterfront park in downtown St. Petersburg, a crowd of more than 5,500 stood rapt listening to him speak, many with tears welling in their eyes. “Ohhhhh,” they gasped. And with that, the Romney campaign’s all-out effort to reveal the nominee’s character and compassion received a boost: A politician with an aversion to telling personal stories was, at long last, telling them.

I am shocked that WaPo would publish such purple prose from an obvious Romney supporter as "news".

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 15:09:29
Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2012 15:12:22


I may not be the biggest fan of Rothko, but I can't tell where the vandalism is


Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 15:15:28
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/198668_773308437068_163048522_n.jpg


Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 15:16:22
Quote by wickedpam:


I may not be the biggest fan of Rothko, but I can't tell where the vandalism is
I know you didn't mean for this to be funny, but


Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 15:18:01
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:


I may not be the biggest fan of Rothko, but I can't tell where the vandalism is
I know you didn't mean for this to be funny, but
I'm not making fun of you, Mala, I just want you to know that. Rothko is a tough nut to look at --


Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2012 15:19:05
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:


I may not be the biggest fan of Rothko, but I can't tell where the vandalism is
I know you didn't mean for this to be funny, but





Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2012 15:20:23
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:


I may not be the biggest fan of Rothko, but I can't tell where the vandalism is
I know you didn't mean for this to be funny, but
I'm not making fun of you, Mala, I just want you to know that. Rothko is a tough nut to look at --


I think he's an acquired taste, I never understood him or Pollock - no worries


Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/08/2012 15:21:37
Good morning, bloggers!! Raine, thanks for a blog that made me feel a bit uneasy. I am sorry but Mitt exudes all the personal warmth of a glacier.

As for myself, I spent time with a friend yesterday who is in town to visit her parents and go to a high school reunion. In bad news, a friend who lives south of Tampa told me that his Dad passed away after fighting prostate cancer.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 15:30:43
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 15:31:42
The images shown in Modo'd link were the original, this is the damage:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/805616/thumbs/r-VANDAL-large570.jpg


Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2012 15:35:01
So it's OK to deface a black painting by painting more black on it?

hmmm.

I think I'll stick with Norman Rockwell.


Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2012 15:35:13
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 15:38:17
Quote by wickedpam:



Oh lord
here as well.


Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2012 15:41:33
Good morning, everyone. Car's actually in the shop this morning. I have to have some put-off belt work done and get a new headlight. Saturday night was another nightmare at work because we had a major circuit breaker fail which screwed up the operation of 4 networks that night. So, instead of the overtime and working 11-2 AM, I didn't finish work until 5 AM. At least what happened was beyond my control and it felt like one of those work nightmares I used to have. The only consolation is that I can't get into trouble for this because it was beyond my control.

Mala, did you lose CBS on your Dish system? I know Midnight was the deadline and I have to figure the fight over the Hopper was the deal breaker.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2012 15:45:27
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, everyone. Car's actually in the shop this morning. I have to have some put-off belt work done and get a new headlight. Saturday night was another nightmare at work because we had a major circuit breaker fail which screwed up the operation of 4 networks that night. So, instead of the overtime and working 11-2 AM, I didn't finish work until 5 AM. At least what happened was beyond my control and it felt like one of those work nightmares I used to have. The only consolation is that I can't get into trouble for this because it was beyond my control.

Mala, did you lose CBS on your Dish system? I know Midnight was the deadline and I have to figure the fight over the Hopper was the deal breaker.


they apparently worked out an extension, then a deal - now I just have to get my AMC back. Already stocked up on itunes cards so I can watch Walking Dead


Comment by BobR on 10/08/2012 15:45:52
Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2012 15:50:32
A couple of snippets from our SOAR scout event this past weekend....

We did it - our pinewood derby track was certified at 320 feet, about 90 feet longer than the old record. Javi raced his district car on the track, and won his heat!

We were buzzed by the State Police helo at one point during the day, with lights, strobes, sirens, and all. I was up on the Pinewood Derby platform at the time, and he was low enough I felt the rotor wash. Very cool.

I was able to get in a kayak for about a half hour with no ill effects on the ol' incision - I'll be back on the pond next season, for sure!

And I am barely ambulatory today. I made the now ill-advised decision to camp with the troop. For whatever reason, the staff area and program registration (my duty station) was at the opposite end of the site from the Troop encampment...over a half-mile away. I lost track, but I think I walked between 8-10 miles this weekend.

Captain Chemo is able to camp!

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101030121606/britishcomics/images/3/35/Bananaman.jpg


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 15:58:05
Quote by TriSec:
A couple of snippets from our SOAR scout event this past weekend....

We did it - our pinewood derby track was certified at 320 feet, about 90 feet longer than the old record. Javi raced his district car on the track, and won his heat!

We were buzzed by the State Police helo at one point during the day, with lights, strobes, sirens, and all. I was up on the Pinewood Derby platform at the time, and he was low enough I felt the rotor wash. Very cool.

I was able to get in a kayak for about a half hour with no ill effects on the ol' incision - I'll be back on the pond next season, for sure!

And I am barely ambulatory today. I made the now ill-advised decision to camp with the troop. For whatever reason, the staff area and program registration (my duty station) was at the opposite end of the site from the Troop encampment...over a half-mile away. I lost track, but I think I walked between 8-10 miles this weekend.

Captain Chemo is able to camp!

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101030121606/britishcomics/images/3/35/Bananaman.jpg



w00t! for Capn Chemo!

Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2012 16:10:51
Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 16:18:03
It's not political!




Comment by TriSec on 10/08/2012 16:21:31
"Original" MILF signs peace treaty with Filipino Government

This is my ancestor's island of Mindanao....and longtime bloggers will note I was innocently looking for information on the Moro Islamic Liberation Front when I inadvertantly discovered the other kind of MILF a while back.


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 16:46:51
Quote by TriSec:
"Original" MILF signs peace treaty with Filipino Government

This is my ancestor's island of Mindanao....and longtime bloggers will note I was innocently looking for information on the Moro Islamic Liberation Front when I inadvertantly discovered the other kind of MILF a while back.



Was a somewhat shocked Trisec introduced to MILF porn?

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 16:50:31



That wacky Mr. Steve Martin!

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 16:54:18



You are cursed by living in relatively small media market. :ducks incoming brick: Oh, you live in a metropolitian area that includes a well developed public transportation infastructure.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 17:49:00
Yarrr! I kilted the blog!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2012 17:50:52


Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 18:01:12
When Scarecrows go terribly, TERRIBLY wrong.



https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/69036_4510396676452_846155805_n.jpg


Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2012 18:02:07
where is that at?

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 18:20:33
Quote by wickedpam:
where is that at?
Yesterday on Mount Vernon Ave (our "Main street") the day after the Art on the Ave Festival.

The Del Ray civic association decided to line the streets with these Scary scary crows, and then it rained. This was the sunday morning result outside Pork Barrel BBQ.




Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2012 18:23:27
Car's fixed. Now, I am just waiting for the ride to take me back to the dealer so I can get my car.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 18:24:49
I'm a little bummed that Danny DeVito and Rhea Perlman are separated.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 18:25:15
Quote by livingonli:
Car's fixed. Now, I am just waiting for the ride to take me back to the dealer so I can get my car.
Woot!




Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/08/2012 18:27:25
There are times when I worry about the Religious Right in the Republican Party and wonder how many truly would like to replace the Constitution with their strange take on Biblical laws. Here is one man who has made me wonder some more, courtesy of the Huffington Post:

Charlie Fuqua, Arkansas Legislative Candidate, Endorses Death Penalty For Rebellious Children In Book

The Huffington Post | By John Celock

Charlie Fuqua, the Republican candidate for the Arkansas House of Representatives who called for expelling Muslims from the United States in his book, also wrote in support for instituting the death penalty for "rebellious children."

In "God's Law," Fuqua's 2012 book, the candidate wrote that while parents love their children, a process could be set up to allow for the institution of the death penalty for "rebellious children," according to the Arkansas Times. Fuqua, who is anti-abortion, points out that the course of action involved in sentencing a child to death is described in the Bible and would involve judicial approval. While it is unlikely that many parents would seek to have their children killed by the government, Fuqua wrote, such power would serve as a way to stop rebellious children.

According to the Arkansas Times, Fuqua wrote:

The maintenance of civil order in society rests on the foundation of family discipline. Therefore, a child who disrespects his parents must be permanently removed from society in a way that gives an example to all other children of the importance of respect for parents. The death penalty for rebellious children is not something to be taken lightly. The guidelines for administering the death penalty to rebellious children are given in Deut 21:18-21:

This passage does not give parents blanket authority to kill their children. They must follow the proper procedure in order to have the death penalty executed against their children. I cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death. Why is this so? Other than the love Christ has for us, there is no greater love then [sic] that of a parent for their child. The last people who would want to see a child put to death would be the parents of the child. Even so, the Scrpture provides a safe guard to protect children from parents who would wrongly exercise the death penalty against them. Parents are required to bring their children to the gate of the city. The gate of the city was the place where the elders of the city met and made judicial pronouncements. In other words, the parents were required to take their children to a court of law and lay out their case before the proper judicial authority, and let the judicial authority determine if the child should be put to death. I know of many cases of rebellious children, however, I cannot think of one case where I believe that a parent had given up on their child to the point that they would have taken their child to a court of law and asked the court to rule that the child be put to death. Even though this procedure would rarely be used, if it were the law of land, it would give parents authority. Children would know that their parents had authority and it would be a tremendous incentive for children to give proper respect to their parents.



Dear Mister Fuqua, as someone who is very familiar with the Torah, there is no evidence that any rebellious child was executed. The eye for an eye bit was not literally, but referred to fines as did Hammurabi's laws. So, I think that Mister Fuqua should perhaps talk to people who understand the book that he professes to follwo.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2012 18:28:50
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
where is that at?
Yesterday on Mount Vernon Ave (our "Main street") the day after the Art on the Ave Festival.

The Del Ray civic association decided to line the streets with these Scary scary crows, and then it rained. This was the sunday morning result outside Pork Barrel BBQ.





oh dear

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 18:33:56
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
where is that at?
Yesterday on Mount Vernon Ave (our "Main street") the day after the Art on the Ave Festival.

The Del Ray civic association decided to line the streets with these Scary scary crows, and then it rained. This was the sunday morning result outside Pork Barrel BBQ.





oh dear
I walked around the corner and I was like *What the wha?" It Was unintentionally wrong. Cracked me up.


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 18:40:32
Quote by Raine:
I'm a little bummed that Danny DeVito and Rhea Perlman are separated.



Yeah me too.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/08/2012 18:47:44
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
I'm a little bummed that Danny DeVito and Rhea Perlman are separated.



Yeah me too.



I am a bit sad too. I thought that they had a great marriage. Still 30 years is a long time in Hollywood.


Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 19:24:39
Mondo, you just pocket dialed me...

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/08/2012 19:33:44
Oh great! The ODESSA clown again.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 19:36:51


Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 19:37:55
Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh great! The ODESSA clown again.
I blame it on Odessa.


Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2012 19:44:11
oh forgot this - Saturday I worked the Manassas Dems booth for the Fall Jubilee - had one guy walk up and ask me to tell him about our candidates for congress, so I gave him the literature we had for Kaine and Cabral. I've been so focused on the Pres that I haven't had time to read up on them, but in Kaine as a former Gov. Anyway we talk a little and the guy says he's for Ron Paul and small government. I said, okay - you know where in the world they have this small government. He ask where. I said Somalia.

Guy looks me in the eyes: "I'm okay with that."
Me - stunned : "your okay with Somalia? A place where you pretty much go to get murdered"
Guy - completely serious: "Yeah, I like the idea of being about to defend my property."
Me - still stunned: "Then I don't think any candidate running is for your, especially not mine."


Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 19:47:51
Quote by wickedpam:
oh forgot this - Saturday I worked the Manassas Dems booth for the Fall Jubilee - had one guy walk up and ask me to tell him about our candidates for congress, so I gave him the literature we had for Kaine and Cabral. I've been so focused on the Pres that I haven't had time to read up on them, but in Kaine as a former Gov. Anyway we talk a little and the guy says he's for Ron Paul and small government. I said, okay - you know where in the world they have this small government. He ask where. I said Somalia.

Guy looks me in the eyes: "I'm okay with that."
Me - stunned : "your okay with Somalia? A place where you pretty much go to get murdered"
Guy - completely serious: "Yeah, I like the idea of being about to defend my property."
Me - still stunned: "Then I don't think any candidate running is for your, especially not mine."

WELL PLAYED.



Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2012 19:51:05
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
oh forgot this - Saturday I worked the Manassas Dems booth for the Fall Jubilee - had one guy walk up and ask me to tell him about our candidates for congress, so I gave him the literature we had for Kaine and Cabral. I've been so focused on the Pres that I haven't had time to read up on them, but in Kaine as a former Gov. Anyway we talk a little and the guy says he's for Ron Paul and small government. I said, okay - you know where in the world they have this small government. He ask where. I said Somalia.

Guy looks me in the eyes: "I'm okay with that."
Me - stunned : "your okay with Somalia? A place where you pretty much go to get murdered"
Guy - completely serious: "Yeah, I like the idea of being about to defend my property."
Me - still stunned: "Then I don't think any candidate running is for your, especially not mine."

WELL PLAYED.



It was all I could think to say - I was literally dumbstruck.


Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 20:13:57
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
oh forgot this - Saturday I worked the Manassas Dems booth for the Fall Jubilee - had one guy walk up and ask me to tell him about our candidates for congress, so I gave him the literature we had for Kaine and Cabral. I've been so focused on the Pres that I haven't had time to read up on them, but in Kaine as a former Gov. Anyway we talk a little and the guy says he's for Ron Paul and small government. I said, okay - you know where in the world they have this small government. He ask where. I said Somalia.

Guy looks me in the eyes: "I'm okay with that."
Me - stunned : "your okay with Somalia? A place where you pretty much go to get murdered"
Guy - completely serious: "Yeah, I like the idea of being about to defend my property."
Me - still stunned: "Then I don't think any candidate running is for your, especially not mine."

WELL PLAYED.



It was all I could think to say - I was literally dumbstruck.
I would have been dumbstruck as well. I think you had a perfect response because it appears that person came as a real live troll. I tend to avoid GOP tents at events because I know where they stand, and I know where I stand -- if I were to engage them, I would be a troll myself.

You slayed a troll, Mala. That is why I say: Well played. I think you handled it better than I may have.


Comment by wickedpam on 10/08/2012 20:16:36
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
oh forgot this - Saturday I worked the Manassas Dems booth for the Fall Jubilee - had one guy walk up and ask me to tell him about our candidates for congress, so I gave him the literature we had for Kaine and Cabral. I've been so focused on the Pres that I haven't had time to read up on them, but in Kaine as a former Gov. Anyway we talk a little and the guy says he's for Ron Paul and small government. I said, okay - you know where in the world they have this small government. He ask where. I said Somalia.

Guy looks me in the eyes: "I'm okay with that."
Me - stunned : "your okay with Somalia? A place where you pretty much go to get murdered"
Guy - completely serious: "Yeah, I like the idea of being about to defend my property."
Me - still stunned: "Then I don't think any candidate running is for your, especially not mine."

WELL PLAYED.



It was all I could think to say - I was literally dumbstruck.
I would have been dumbstruck as well. I think you had a perfect response because it appears that person came as a real live troll. I tend to avoid GOP tents at events because I know where they stand, and I know where I stand -- if I were to engage them, I would be a troll myself.

You slayed a troll, Mala. That is why I say: Well played. I think you handled it better than I may have.



aaww shucks

Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2012 21:08:03
Well, nice to know the Paulbot has no problem living with Somalia like conditions. I'm sure he will feel different if that reality were to actually set in.

Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 21:13:59
Quote by livingonli:
Well, nice to know the Paulbot has no problem living with Somalia like conditions. I'm sure he will feel different if that reality were to actually set in.

It's easy to live in a world where fantasy is reality. Ppl like this fellow don;t have the ability to think outside if their political ideology.

That's why I like being a Dem. I can think outside of political ideology and still live with myself.

Comment by BobR on 10/08/2012 21:31:48
This picture is just...

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/247725_411744532213732_502852802_n.jpg




Comment by Raine on 10/08/2012 21:37:17
Quote by BobR:
This picture is just...

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/247725_411744532213732_502852802_n.jpg


Wow, I'm really glad he's the candidate, if it were Newt, I'd have to clean that Trickle down...



Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/08/2012 21:47:30
Quote by Will in Chicago:
There are times when I worry about the Religious Right in the Republican Party and wonder how many truly would like to replace the Constitution with their strange take on Biblical laws. Here is one man who has made me wonder some more, courtesy of the Huffington Post:

Charlie Fuqua, Arkansas Legislative Candidate, Endorses Death Penalty For Rebellious Children In Book

The Huffington Post | By John Celock

Charlie Fuqua, the Republican candidate for the Arkansas House of Representatives who called for expelling Muslims from the United States in his book, also wrote in support for instituting the death penalty for "rebellious children."

In "God's Law," Fuqua's 2012 book, the candidate wrote that while parents love their children, a process could be set up to allow for the institution of the death penalty for "rebellious children," according to the Arkansas Times. Fuqua, who is anti-abortion, points out that the course of action involved in sentencing a child to death is described in the Bible and would involve judicial approval. While it is unlikely that many parents would seek to have their children killed by the government, Fuqua wrote, such power would serve as a way to stop rebellious children.

According to the Arkansas Times, Fuqua wrote:

The maintenance of civil order in society rests on the foundation of family discipline. Therefore, a child who disrespects his parents must be permanently removed from society in a way that gives an example to all other children of the importance of respect for parents. The death penalty for rebellious children is not something to be taken lightly. The guidelines for administering the death penalty to rebellious children are given in Deut 21:18-21:

This passage does not give parents blanket authority to kill their children. They must follow the proper procedure in order to have the death penalty executed against their children. I cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death. Why is this so? Other than the love Christ has for us, there is no greater love then [sic] that of a parent for their child. The last people who would want to see a child put to death would be the parents of the child. Even so, the Scrpture provides a safe guard to protect children from parents who would wrongly exercise the death penalty against them. Parents are required to bring their children to the gate of the city. The gate of the city was the place where the elders of the city met and made judicial pronouncements. In other words, the parents were required to take their children to a court of law and lay out their case before the proper judicial authority, and let the judicial authority determine if the child should be put to death. I know of many cases of rebellious children, however, I cannot think of one case where I believe that a parent had given up on their child to the point that they would have taken their child to a court of law and asked the court to rule that the child be put to death. Even though this procedure would rarely be used, if it were the law of land, it would give parents authority. Children would know that their parents had authority and it would be a tremendous incentive for children to give proper respect to their parents.



Dear Mister Fuqua, as someone who is very familiar with the Torah, there is no evidence that any rebellious child was executed. The eye for an eye bit was not literally, but referred to fines as did Hammurabi's laws. So, I think that Mister Fuqua should perhaps talk to people who understand the book that he professes to follwo.


You see?!?! That Sharia Law is going to be the end of our country!!

Oh.......too bad Deuteronomy didn't say the parents should have been stoned to death as well for bearing such an unruly crotchfruit.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/08/2012 21:54:16
I wish I could stay up through tonight's MNF game. Sounds like a cataclysmic event is coming and it's possible only Tebow can save us.

“Looking forward to giving God all the glory in tonight’s 666th Monday Night Football game. Romans 8:37-39.”


I feel a double facepalm coming.

Comment by livingonli on 10/08/2012 21:57:16
Quote by trojanrabbit:
I wish I could stay up through tonight's MNF game. Sounds like a cataclysmic event is coming and it's possible only Tebow can save us.

“Looking forward to giving God all the glory in tonight’s 666th Monday Night Football game. Romans 8:37-39.”


I feel a double facepalm coming.

Might only be worth it if there is the expected crushing that the Jets are supposed to get tonight.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/08/2012 22:11:49
Talking Points Memo reports that a new Pew Poll shows Romney ahead by 4 points:


Pew: Romney Leads By 4 In Post-Debate Survey

Tom Kludt October 8, 2012, 4:01 PM

In the first national poll to be conducted entirely after the opening presidential debate, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney now leads President Barack Obama by 4 points.

The poll, conducted by Pew Research Center from Thursday through Sunday and released on Monday, shows Romney leading Obama among likely voters nationwide, 49 percent to 45 percent. That’s a stark contrast from Pew’s mid-September poll after both parties’ conventions, which showed Obama up 8 points among likely voters.

The dramatic 12-point swing in Pew’s poll from Obama to Romney is perhaps the strongest piece of evidence to date that the president has paid a political price for his listless performance in the Denver debate. But the complete suite of post-debate surveys from national pollsters is only beginning to emerge, and the early indications are of a less dramatic shift than Pew is showing.


Comment by BobR on 10/08/2012 22:22:16
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Talking Points Memo reports that a new Pew Poll shows Romney ahead by 4 points:

Pew: Romney Leads By 4 In Post-Debate Survey

Tom Kludt October 8, 2012, 4:01 PM

In the first national poll to be conducted entirely after the opening presidential debate, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney now leads President Barack Obama by 4 points.

The poll, conducted by Pew Research Center from Thursday through Sunday and released on Monday, shows Romney leading Obama among likely voters nationwide, 49 percent to 45 percent. That’s a stark contrast from Pew’s mid-September poll after both parties’ conventions, which showed Obama up 8 points among likely voters.

The dramatic 12-point swing in Pew’s poll from Obama to Romney is perhaps the strongest piece of evidence to date that the president has paid a political price for his listless performance in the Denver debate. But the complete suite of post-debate surveys from national pollsters is only beginning to emerge, and the early indications are of a less dramatic shift than Pew is showing.

It really only matters in few key swing states. Sad but true.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/08/2012 22:42:01
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Talking Points Memo reports that a new Pew Poll shows Romney ahead by 4 points:

Pew: Romney Leads By 4 In Post-Debate Survey

Tom Kludt October 8, 2012, 4:01 PM

In the first national poll to be conducted entirely after the opening presidential debate, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney now leads President Barack Obama by 4 points.

The poll, conducted by Pew Research Center from Thursday through Sunday and released on Monday, shows Romney leading Obama among likely voters nationwide, 49 percent to 45 percent. That’s a stark contrast from Pew’s mid-September poll after both parties’ conventions, which showed Obama up 8 points among likely voters.

The dramatic 12-point swing in Pew’s poll from Obama to Romney is perhaps the strongest piece of evidence to date that the president has paid a political price for his listless performance in the Denver debate. But the complete suite of post-debate surveys from national pollsters is only beginning to emerge, and the early indications are of a less dramatic shift than Pew is showing.

It really only matters in few key swing states. Sad but true.



Yes, and that is one of the tragedies of our system. I suspect that Biden will be trying to take on Romney during Thursday's debate and trying harder than before to win.

Comment by TriSec on 10/09/2012 01:46:55
Our new and still un-named blog flagship flying CAP over Worcester Airport.

No Luftwaffe were seen.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/TriSec/A20overKORH.jpg


Comment by BobR on 10/09/2012 02:04:42
Quote by TriSec:
Our new and still un-named blog flagship flying CAP over Worcester Airport.

No Luftwaffe were seen.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/TriSec/A20overKORH.jpg

Ah CAP... I belonged to CAP for a few months when I was in high school. I hoped to get flying lessons out of it, but there was nothing going at all. I left out of boredom.