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The Undecider
Author: BobR
Date: 10/10/2012 13:42:10
I've made the joke that Romney changes his policy positions more often than he changes his underwear. I can understand a person slowly evolving in their viewpoints as they absorb more data, but the whiplash is getting tiresome and disturbing. How can anyone truly understand what he stands for?
This was a problem for President Obama during the debates, in that Romney was arguing positions that did not match up with his previous stances. How do you prepare for that? This graphic here (currently making the rounds) shows one example:
Romney on abortion is a whole 'nuther story. When governor of Massachusetts, he was decidedly pro-choice. By the time the 2008 presidential race rolled around, he was anti-abortion, but with exceptions for rape and incest. By the time this campaign rolled around, Romney decided he was "severely" conservative. He started talking about no exceptions for incest or rape, and supported a "personhood amendment" which would effectively make all abortion illegal. He also came out against birth control. Romney has supposedly come back from the cliff on that and decided that the exceptions are back on the table.
Yesterday, however, he took yet another stance by claiming that anti-abortion legislation would not be part of his agenda:
Before the ink was even dry, the Romney campaign released a statement coming out against Romney's statement:
This isn't the first time the Romney campaign hascontradicted "clarified" Romney's remarks - it's happened time and time again.
He contradicts himself, he contradicts his campaign, his campaign contradicts him... At this point, it's impossible to determine whether one should vote for Romney based on specific issues. That determination can only be made based on what sort of person you think he is and whether he would be a good leader for the country. He seems to me to be a person that can't decide on anything, and will lie or say whatever he thinks people want to hear, depending on who is in front of him. That doesn't seem like leadership to me.
This was a problem for President Obama during the debates, in that Romney was arguing positions that did not match up with his previous stances. How do you prepare for that? This graphic here (currently making the rounds) shows one example:
Romney on abortion is a whole 'nuther story. When governor of Massachusetts, he was decidedly pro-choice. By the time the 2008 presidential race rolled around, he was anti-abortion, but with exceptions for rape and incest. By the time this campaign rolled around, Romney decided he was "severely" conservative. He started talking about no exceptions for incest or rape, and supported a "personhood amendment" which would effectively make all abortion illegal. He also came out against birth control. Romney has supposedly come back from the cliff on that and decided that the exceptions are back on the table.
Yesterday, however, he took yet another stance by claiming that anti-abortion legislation would not be part of his agenda:
"There's no legislation with regards to abortion that I'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda," he told the Des Moines Register in an interview posted on the newspaper's website.
The former Massachusetts governor said he would instead use an executive order to reinstate the so-called Mexico City policy that bans American aid from funding abortions. President Barack Obama waived the order soon after taking office.
Romney's statement to the newspaper represents an apparent shift on a topic Obama's campaign has tried to use against him, particularly with female voters. Soon after the comments were posted on the Register's website, the president's campaign pounced.
"We know the truth about where he stands on a woman's right to choose: He's said he'd be delighted to sign a bill banning all abortions, and called Roe v. Wade 'one of the darkest moments in Supreme Court history,' while pledging to appoint Supreme Court justices who will overturn it. Women simply can't trust him," Obama spokeswoman Lis Smith said.
Before the ink was even dry, the Romney campaign released a statement coming out against Romney's statement:
The Romney campaign walked back the remark within two hours of the Register posting its story. Spokeswoman Andrea Saul told the National Review Online's Katrina Trinko that Romney "would of course support legislation aimed at providing greater protections for life."
This isn't the first time the Romney campaign has
He contradicts himself, he contradicts his campaign, his campaign contradicts him... At this point, it's impossible to determine whether one should vote for Romney based on specific issues. That determination can only be made based on what sort of person you think he is and whether he would be a good leader for the country. He seems to me to be a person that can't decide on anything, and will lie or say whatever he thinks people want to hear, depending on who is in front of him. That doesn't seem like leadership to me.
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Comment by 
Raine on 10/10/2012 13:50:03
Raine on 10/10/2012 13:50:03
Senator Ted Kennedy, 1994: "I have supported Roe v. Wade, I am prochoice. My opponent is multiple choice ... When, Mr. Romney, are you going to tell the people of Massachusetts which healthcare program you favor?"
Comment by 
wickedpam on 10/10/2012 13:52:58
wickedpam on 10/10/2012 13:52:58
Morning again 
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 13:57:14
Hello again!
Raine on 10/10/2012 13:57:14
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning again
Comment by wickedpam on 10/10/2012 13:59:56
wickedpam on 10/10/2012 13:59:56
reposting - I just walked our entire warehouse looking for something on the top rafters 
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 14:19:12
Raine on 10/10/2012 14:19:12
Regarding last nights blog, I just sent the following letter to the American Association for Polling Opinion Research
CONTACT AAPOR
Raine Koch, thank you for sending us a message. We hope that the site has been informative, and welcome any feedback you'd like to offer. Below is a copy of your email. You may print it out and save it for your records.
Your comments:
Dear AAPOR, I am the author of this post (link is at the end of this letter) questioning the validity of "We ask America' as a reputable and legitimate polling organization. I wanted to pass the information on to you as it appears they are in violation of your code of ethics. I do not know if they are a member of your association, but I believe this issue deserves more eyes seeing it. I am also a co administrator of this blog. We are small but we are legitimate. Thank you for your time.
Raine Koch
http://www.fourfreedomsblog.com/Blog.php?Act=ViewBlogPost&BlogID=2119
If you have additional questions, contact AAPOR headquarters at:
American Association for Public Opinion Research
111 Deer Lake Road, Suite 100
Deerfield, IL 60015
+1-847-205-2651
fax: +1-847-480-9282
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 14:20:22
Well that sounded so fruitful...
Raine on 10/10/2012 14:20:22
Quote by wickedpam:
reposting - I just walked our entire warehouse looking for something on the top rafters
Well that sounded so fruitful...
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 14:21:10
Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 14:21:10
Since the Mittbot is clearly running DOS as its OS, there is that 640k limit. hard to program.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/10/2012 14:25:04
Didn't realize just how big the warehouse was now. Sadly could not find the missing pallet of fancy glasses.
wickedpam on 10/10/2012 14:25:04
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
reposting - I just walked our entire warehouse looking for something on the top rafters
Well that sounded so fruitful...
Didn't realize just how big the warehouse was now. Sadly could not find the missing pallet of fancy glasses.
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 14:27:19
Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 14:27:19
Good morning, bloggers!! BobR, I think that Romney will get caught up by his shifting policies.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 14:30:35
Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 14:30:35
In another example of hypocrisy from the GOP, here is a story from the Huffington Post:
I am sick of the hypocrisy. Take a stand and live by it.
Scott DesJarlais, Pro-Life Republican Congressman And Doctor, Pressured Mistress Patient To Get Abortion
Michael McAuliff
WASHINGTON -- A pro-life, family-values congressman who worked as a doctor before winning election as a Tea Party-backed Republican had an affair with a patient and later pressured her to get an abortion, according to a phone call transcript obtained by The Huffington Post.
The congressman, Rep. Scott DesJarlais of Tennessee, was trying to save his marriage at the time, according to his remarks on the call, made in September of 2000. And, according to three independent sources familiar with the call and the recording, he made the tape himself.
DesJarlais, who was provided a copy of the transcript by HuffPost, did not deny its contents, but in a statement released through his campaign characterized it as just another sordid detail dredged up by the opposition. "Desperate personal attacks do not solve our nation's problems, yet it appears my opponents are choosing to once again engage in the same gutter politics that CBS news called the dirtiest in the nation just 2 years ago."
That race featured charges culled from DesJarlais' divorce from Susan DesJarlais, which was finalized in 2001. The filing included allegations that he held a gun in his own mouth for hours in one instance and that he "dry fired" a gun outside his wife's bedroom in another.
I am sick of the hypocrisy. Take a stand and live by it.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 14:38:20
Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 14:38:20
Nicole Sandler will be in for Thom Hartmann for the rest of the week.
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 15:24:04
Raine on 10/10/2012 15:24:04
Comment by wickedpam on 10/10/2012 15:35:43
wickedpam on 10/10/2012 15:35:43
Carol Burnett! 
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 15:35:50
Raine on 10/10/2012 15:35:50
Oh, I 
Carol Burnett.
Carol Burnett.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/10/2012 15:38:26
wickedpam on 10/10/2012 15:38:26
She even plays an awesome bad guy! She's just awesome!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 15:39:56
Romney seems to have all the authenticity of a three dollar bill.
Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 15:39:56
Quote by Raine:
The Romney Campaign of death continues.
And to be honest, this is rather pathetic.
Romney seems to have all the authenticity of a three dollar bill.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/10/2012 15:40:51
wickedpam on 10/10/2012 15:40:51
wow, Jim is old school Hollywood!
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 15:41:55
I never really knew how hollywood he was!
Raine on 10/10/2012 15:41:55
Quote by wickedpam:
wow, Jim is old school Hollywood!
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 15:42:31
It reinforces my Monday Blog, that is for sure.
Raine on 10/10/2012 15:42:31
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by Raine:
The Romney Campaign of death continues.
And to be honest, this is rather pathetic.
Romney seems to have all the authenticity of a three dollar bill.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 16:13:53
Que? What did Jim do/say?
Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 16:13:53
Quote by wickedpam:
wow, Jim is old school Hollywood!
Que? What did Jim do/say?
Comment by wickedpam on 10/10/2012 16:20:46
his mom handed a program to Marlene Dietrich for a very early Carol Burnett preformace
wickedpam on 10/10/2012 16:20:46
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
wow, Jim is old school Hollywood!
Que? What did Jim do/say?
his mom handed a program to Marlene Dietrich for a very early Carol Burnett preformace
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 16:49:57
Raine on 10/10/2012 16:49:57
Something else about We Ask America, from their about page:
This begs a question that I hope someone can answer:
For whom are they doing these polls?
Whether you want to call a million households or a few hundred, We Ask America can dial your constituency. We call nearly four million voters a year to ask their opinions on political races, key issues, consumer habits and scores of other topics important to our customers.
Whether you want a traditional interview poll or a large-sample automated survey, We Ask America can provide you with timely, accurate and affordable results. We serve:Political candidates
Non-profit groups
Trade associations
Issue groups
Political Action Committees
Private businesses
Often, a call to us in the afternoon results in us being in the field that same evening. And you won’t have to wait for topline results…the vast majority of poll results get emailed the night we conduct the survey.
This begs a question that I hope someone can answer:
For whom are they doing these polls?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 17:13:19
A good question, but I am not seeing any list of clients.
Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 17:13:19
Quote by Raine:
Something else about We Ask America, from their about page:Whether you want to call a million households or a few hundred, We Ask America can dial your constituency. We call nearly four million voters a year to ask their opinions on political races, key issues, consumer habits and scores of other topics important to our customers.
Whether you want a traditional interview poll or a large-sample automated survey, We Ask America can provide you with timely, accurate and affordable results. We serve:Political candidates
Non-profit groups
Trade associations
Issue groups
Political Action Committees
Private businesses
Often, a call to us in the afternoon results in us being in the field that same evening. And you won’t have to wait for topline results…the vast majority of poll results get emailed the night we conduct the survey.
This begs a question that I hope someone can answer:
For whom are they doing these polls?
A good question, but I am not seeing any list of clients.
Comment by 
livingonli on 10/10/2012 17:16:48
livingonli on 10/10/2012 17:16:48
Good day, folks. Hoping my apartment search goes a little better today although it didn't help that I slept until 12:30 today and I have to get new sneakers and buy containers so I can have stuff packed and ready to go for my next move.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/10/2012 17:39:24
where ever you moved to make sure you can have a cat!
wickedpam on 10/10/2012 17:39:24
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Hoping my apartment search goes a little better today although it didn't help that I slept until 12:30 today and I have to get new sneakers and buy containers so I can have stuff packed and ready to go for my next move.
where ever you moved to make sure you can have a cat!
Comment by 
BobR on 10/10/2012 17:41:02
buy containers? You ought to be able to get free boxes from any number of places. Check your local CraigsList in the "Free" section - people are giving away moving boxes all the time.
BobR on 10/10/2012 17:41:02
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Hoping my apartment search goes a little better today although it didn't help that I slept until 12:30 today and I have to get new sneakers and buy containers so I can have stuff packed and ready to go for my next move.
buy containers? You ought to be able to get free boxes from any number of places. Check your local CraigsList in the "Free" section - people are giving away moving boxes all the time.
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 17:44:40
The Mom of the fallen SEAL has told Romney to stop talking about her son
Raine on 10/10/2012 17:44:40
Quote by Raine:
The Romney Campaign of death continues.
And to be honest, this is rather pathetic.
The Mom of the fallen SEAL has told Romney to stop talking about her son
"I don't trust Romney," Barbara Doherty told WHDH 7. "He shouldn't make my son's death part of his political agenda. It's wrong to use these brave young men, who wanted freedom for all, to degrade Obama."
The story posted on WHDH's website indicated that they had sought a response from the campaign, but didn't get one.
Asked whether Romney would continue to tell the story, a campaign aide told BuzzFeed he would not, now that he knew the mother's wishes.
Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2012 17:55:23
I hope that can work out since my roommate is taking the cat with her but it would be nice if I could take in a shelter cat.
livingonli on 10/10/2012 17:55:23
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Hoping my apartment search goes a little better today although it didn't help that I slept until 12:30 today and I have to get new sneakers and buy containers so I can have stuff packed and ready to go for my next move.
where ever you moved to make sure you can have a cat!
I hope that can work out since my roommate is taking the cat with her but it would be nice if I could take in a shelter cat.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/10/2012 18:07:53
you need a cat.
wickedpam on 10/10/2012 18:07:53
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Hoping my apartment search goes a little better today although it didn't help that I slept until 12:30 today and I have to get new sneakers and buy containers so I can have stuff packed and ready to go for my next move.
where ever you moved to make sure you can have a cat!
I hope that can work out since my roommate is taking the cat with her but it would be nice if I could take in a shelter cat.
you need a cat.
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 18:15:54
I agree, Livin does need a cat.
Raine on 10/10/2012 18:15:54
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Hoping my apartment search goes a little better today although it didn't help that I slept until 12:30 today and I have to get new sneakers and buy containers so I can have stuff packed and ready to go for my next move.
where ever you moved to make sure you can have a cat!
I hope that can work out since my roommate is taking the cat with her but it would be nice if I could take in a shelter cat.
you need a cat.
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 18:18:36
Raine on 10/10/2012 18:18:36
@ezraklein
So Obama is back to his pre-debate #s in @gallupnews: http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx … this is why it's worth waiting a few days to see how polls settle
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 18:27:54
Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 18:27:54
Am I the only person here who isn't shocked or disturbed by a half-assed partisan polling shop in the pocket of a trade group?
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 18:28:41
I think he needs two. Kitties need a pal!
Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 18:28:41
Quote by Raine:I agree, Livin does need a cat.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Hoping my apartment search goes a little better today although it didn't help that I slept until 12:30 today and I have to get new sneakers and buy containers so I can have stuff packed and ready to go for my next move.
where ever you moved to make sure you can have a cat!
I hope that can work out since my roommate is taking the cat with her but it would be nice if I could take in a shelter cat.
you need a cat.
I think he needs two. Kitties need a pal!
Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2012 19:11:31
Nah. It seems like the GOP will stoop to anything.
I just wondering if anyone else is having problems with Google Chrome since when I tried to open it, I got a message saying that it was missing something and needed to be re-installed and when I re-installed it, I still got the same error. Either my laptop is really starting to crap out or there is an issue with Chrome.
livingonli on 10/10/2012 19:11:31
Quote by Mondobubba:
Am I the only person here who isn't shocked or disturbed by a half-assed partisan polling shop in the pocket of a trade group?
Nah. It seems like the GOP will stoop to anything.
I just wondering if anyone else is having problems with Google Chrome since when I tried to open it, I got a message saying that it was missing something and needed to be re-installed and when I re-installed it, I still got the same error. Either my laptop is really starting to crap out or there is an issue with Chrome.
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 19:26:33
I am disturbed at the level and amount of people who are using them.
I think that is important.
Raine on 10/10/2012 19:26:33
Quote by Mondobubba:
Am I the only person here who isn't shocked or disturbed by a half-assed partisan polling shop in the pocket of a trade group?
I think that is important.
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 19:27:16
My opinion has been one of wait for Romney to so or say something stupid again.
Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 19:27:16
Quote by Raine:@ezraklein
So Obama is back to his pre-debate #s in @gallupnews: http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx … this is why it's worth waiting a few days to see how polls settle
My opinion has been one of wait for Romney to so or say something stupid again.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/10/2012 19:32:49
only problem I've been having with chrome is my shockwave keeps crashing for some reason
wickedpam on 10/10/2012 19:32:49
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba:
Am I the only person here who isn't shocked or disturbed by a half-assed partisan polling shop in the pocket of a trade group?
Nah. It seems like the GOP will stoop to anything.
I just wondering if anyone else is having problems with Google Chrome since when I tried to open it, I got a message saying that it was missing something and needed to be re-installed and when I re-installed it, I still got the same error. Either my laptop is really starting to crap out or there is an issue with Chrome.
only problem I've been having with chrome is my shockwave keeps crashing for some reason
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 19:34:09
I am more concerned on the meta level, the explosion of polling outfits that really aren't reliable sources like your Harris or Gallup agencies (remember when there were only those two?) or more importantly that are push polling companies that are there to sway public opinion. Are we on the same page then??
Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 19:34:09
Quote by Raine:I am disturbed at the level and amount of people who are using them.Quote by Mondobubba:
Am I the only person here who isn't shocked or disturbed by a half-assed partisan polling shop in the pocket of a trade group?
I think that is important.
I am more concerned on the meta level, the explosion of polling outfits that really aren't reliable sources like your Harris or Gallup agencies (remember when there were only those two?) or more importantly that are push polling companies that are there to sway public opinion. Are we on the same page then??
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 19:36:57
Raine on 10/10/2012 19:36:57
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 19:38:37
Why do you think I bothered to research that group then? It was for just that reason.
Raine on 10/10/2012 19:38:37
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I am disturbed at the level and amount of people who are using them.Quote by Mondobubba:
Am I the only person here who isn't shocked or disturbed by a half-assed partisan polling shop in the pocket of a trade group?
I think that is important.
I am more concerned on the meta level, the explosion of polling outfits that really aren't reliable sources like your Harris or Gallup agencies (remember when there were only those two?) or more importantly that are push polling companies that are there to sway public opinion. Are we on the same page then??
Comment by 
Scoopster on 10/10/2012 19:40:12
Scoopster on 10/10/2012 19:40:12
Afternoon all..
Finally back in the office after a rainy day on the road at an offsite meeting. Got another session at the sleep clinic tonite, so right now I'm sucking down the last drops of caffeine I can have for the next 12 hours!
Finally back in the office after a rainy day on the road at an offsite meeting. Got another session at the sleep clinic tonite, so right now I'm sucking down the last drops of caffeine I can have for the next 12 hours!
Comment by livingonli on 10/10/2012 19:41:47
livingonli on 10/10/2012 19:41:47
I put the Nats game on and I am beginning to think they are regretting shutting down Strasburg.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 19:47:02
Mondo, I am not having any problems with Chrome.
As for the GOP, I expect lying, distortion of data and vote stealing. If there is a way to win, I expect them to try it.
Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 19:47:02
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba:
Am I the only person here who isn't shocked or disturbed by a half-assed partisan polling shop in the pocket of a trade group?
Nah. It seems like the GOP will stoop to anything.
I just wondering if anyone else is having problems with Google Chrome since when I tried to open it, I got a message saying that it was missing something and needed to be re-installed and when I re-installed it, I still got the same error. Either my laptop is really starting to crap out or there is an issue with Chrome.
Mondo, I am not having any problems with Chrome.
As for the GOP, I expect lying, distortion of data and vote stealing. If there is a way to win, I expect them to try it.
Comment by wickedpam on 10/10/2012 19:55:14
wickedpam on 10/10/2012 19:55:14
omg I'm loving this Clinton speech! 
I've so missed the Big Dog
I've so missed the Big Dog
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 19:57:49
They are the fleas on the dog of polling, aren't they?
Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 19:57:49
Quote by Raine:Why do you think I bothered to research that group then? It was for just that reason.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I am disturbed at the level and amount of people who are using them.Quote by Mondobubba:
Am I the only person here who isn't shocked or disturbed by a half-assed partisan polling shop in the pocket of a trade group?
I think that is important.
I am more concerned on the meta level, the explosion of polling outfits that really aren't reliable sources like your Harris or Gallup agencies (remember when there were only those two?) or more importantly that are push polling companies that are there to sway public opinion. Are we on the same page then??
They are the fleas on the dog of polling, aren't they?
Comment by Raine on 10/10/2012 19:58:46
I was watching some of it on TV -- you should check out his expression when you can! He was classic!
Raine on 10/10/2012 19:58:46
Quote by wickedpam:
omg I'm loving this Clinton speech!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 20:13:13
Perhaps, but fleas can carry big problems. The Black Death was spread by fleas. (Ironically, people killing cats -- which hunt mice and rats -- may have increased the spread of the disease.)
Will in Chicago on 10/10/2012 20:13:13
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Why do you think I bothered to research that group then? It was for just that reason.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I am disturbed at the level and amount of people who are using them.Quote by Mondobubba:
Am I the only person here who isn't shocked or disturbed by a half-assed partisan polling shop in the pocket of a trade group?
I think that is important.
I am more concerned on the meta level, the explosion of polling outfits that really aren't reliable sources like your Harris or Gallup agencies (remember when there were only those two?) or more importantly that are push polling companies that are there to sway public opinion. Are we on the same page then??
They are the fleas on the dog of polling, aren't they?
Perhaps, but fleas can carry big problems. The Black Death was spread by fleas. (Ironically, people killing cats -- which hunt mice and rats -- may have increased the spread of the disease.)
Comment by Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 20:23:41
Here's a question. Have you ever been pushed polled?
Mondobubba on 10/10/2012 20:23:41
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Why do you think I bothered to research that group then? It was for just that reason.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I am disturbed at the level and amount of people who are using them.Quote by Mondobubba:
Am I the only person here who isn't shocked or disturbed by a half-assed partisan polling shop in the pocket of a trade group?
I think that is important.
I am more concerned on the meta level, the explosion of polling outfits that really aren't reliable sources like your Harris or Gallup agencies (remember when there were only those two?) or more importantly that are push polling companies that are there to sway public opinion. Are we on the same page then??
They are the fleas on the dog of polling, aren't they?
Here's a question. Have you ever been pushed polled?