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Author: Raine    Date: 04/02/2008 12:03:47

The DoJ declassified a memo from 2003. Yes. another one. Many more are still missing... but if this is an indicator of what we have yet to see... wow...
The memo, written by John Yoo, then a key architect of legal policy in the wake of 9/11, dismisses several legal impediments to the use of extreme techniques.

Yoo was long a proponent of an aggressive approach in the war against terrorism and a believer in executive branch authority. But the memo was withdrawn as formal government policy less than a year after it was written.

In the March 14, 2003 memo, Yoo says the Constitution was not in play with regard to the interrogations because the Fifth Amendment (which provides for due process of law) and the Eighth Amendment (which prevents the government from employing cruel and usual punishment) does "not extend to alien enemy combatants held abroad.":

The memo goes on to explain that federal criminal statutes regarding assault and other crimes against the body don't apply to authorized military interrogations overseas and that statutes that do apply to the conduct of U.S. officials abroad pertaining to war crimes and torture establish a limited obligation on the part of interrogators to refrain from bodily harm.
But this is the real kicker...
"If a government defendant were to harm an enemy combatant during an interrogation in a manner that might arguably violate a criminal prohibition, he would be doing so in order to prevent further attacks on the United States by the al Qaeda terrorist network," Yoo wrote. "In that case, we believe that he could argue that the executive branch's constitutional authority to protect the nation from attack justified his actions."
No where in the constitution does it give the executive branch that authority.

They knew they were breaking the law and committing unconstitutional acts. They did it then and they are doing it now. The very idea that they have people writing memo's to figure out how to get around the constitution should tell us about how little this Executive branch regards our precious Constitution. They pick and choose the amendments like it is some game.

The constitution is for EVERYONE, not the Executive branch's to use against the people.

If it wasn't so late in this administration's term, I would ask that every American send one dollar to go towards a fund so we could force these lawbreaking criminal nitwits back to a constitutional law class.

The idea that the constitution must be broken in order to save a nation is unseemly at the very least, and a HIGHLY treasonous crime imo. Mr. Yoo should be stripped of his citizenship. And *ush -- well -- I have spoken of how I feel about him many times here in this space. From Article II, section One United states Constitution:

Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

That is the presidents job - to protect the constitution, not break it. This country will be unraveling the damage of the past 8 years for a long time. This election is VERY important; let's make sure we get the right person for the job! Let's elect someone who will treat the constitution like the beautiful document it is!

See you inside!
:peace: and

Raine

 

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Comment by TriSec on 04/02/2008 12:38:34
Morning, folks. Only time for a quickie...



I'm in meetings virtually all day. I might have time for a blow-through around lunchtime, but that's about it.



:peace:





Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 12:54:03
Good morning Tri! if a quickie is all you got, you know I am easy enough to take it!

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 13:07:26
Mike Gravel's newest political ad....

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 13:09:43
Shane-o!

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 13:10:28
:rofl:

Comment by m-hadley on 04/02/2008 13:15:11
Quote by Raine:

:rofl:




So Shane-O is like me, he has a law degree, but has never passed a bar - he has always had to go in and knock back a few That's the last time I'll tell that joke, I promise.

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/02/2008 13:17:03
:clap: Great bloggie Raine!!



Morning all.



Velveeta booked a hotel room yesterday. :D

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 13:19:01
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Raine:

:rofl:




So Shane-O is like me, he has a law degree, but has never passed a bar - he has always had to go in and knock back a few That's the last time I'll tell that joke, I promise.

Cheers,

mfaye
HAH! :drink:



Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 13:20:41
Rush makes...

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/02/2008 13:21:59
Thank you KO!!!!!



A former Wal-Mart employee who suffered severe brain damage in a traffic accident won't have to pay back the company for the cost of her medical care, Wal-Mart told the family Tuesday.





Debbie Shank, 52, has severe brain damage after a traffic accident in May 2000.



"Occasionally, others help us step back and look at a situation in a different way. This is one of those times," Wal-Mart Executive Vice President Pat Curran said in a letter. "We have all been moved by Ms. Shank's extraordinary situation."



Eight years ago, Debbie Shank was stocking shelves for the retail giant and signed up for Wal-Mart's health and benefits plan.



After a tractor-trailer slammed into her minivan, the 52-year-old mother of three lost much of her short-term memory and was confined to a wheelchair. She now lives in a nursing home.



She also lost her 18-year-old son, Jeremy, who was killed shortly after arriving in Iraq. When Debbie Shank asks family members how her son is doing and they remind her that he's dead, she weeps as if hearing the news for the first time.






From CNN

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 13:22:00
Oh tweety...

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 13:22:48
YES! Thanks to KO and all the people who wrote letters to MaoMart!

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 13:24:56
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 13:28:09
:rofl: Love that Hills compared herself to Rocky!



Does that make Obama Appollo Creed???

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/02/2008 13:30:36
Quote by Raine:

:rofl: Love that Hills compared herself to Rocky!



Does that make Obama Appollo Creed???


Um............ FYI Hillary, Rocky lost in the first movie............

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 13:31:36
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

:rofl: Love that Hills compared herself to Rocky!



Does that make Obama Appollo Creed???


Um............ FYI Hillary, Rocky lost in the first movie............


Does this mean she is going to have like 6 sequals?!?!?

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 13:33:40


Rach Schools Joe Scarborough!

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 13:43:12


Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 13:48:19
J-J-J-uicy!!! :banana:

Comment by m-hadley on 04/02/2008 13:50:29
Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

:rofl: Love that Hills compared herself to Rocky!



Does that make Obama Appollo Creed???


Um............ FYI Hillary, Rocky lost in the first movie............


Does this mean she is going to have like 6 sequals?!?!?




OMG, I hope to hell not, you know how the Dems treat their retreads - Dukakis, Kerry, McGovern, Carter - I don't believe that the Dems generally welcome a second act from pols, unless of course it is the great Al Gore, or the equally great John Edwards. (sarcasm-free - truly!) :D

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 13:53:57
Good morning everyone.



It was a brutal night in the salt mine and I came home pooped.



Oh, why can't I get a normal night's sleep (or a job where I can get a normal night's sleep).

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 13:55:22
Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Raine:

:rofl: Love that Hills compared herself to Rocky!



Does that make Obama Appollo Creed???


Um............ FYI Hillary, Rocky lost in the first movie............


Does this mean she is going to have like 6 sequals?!?!?


NOOOOO!

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 13:56:21
Four organs? That's a lot to handle.

Comment by BobR on 04/02/2008 14:01:17
Quote by Raine:

:rofl: Love that Hills compared herself to Rocky!



Does that make Obama Appollo Creed???


Obama Creed!



Who wants to do the photoshop on that one? :D

Comment by wickedpam on 04/02/2008 14:06:28
Morning :hug:

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 14:07:32
Good morning Mala. How's it going in DC?

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:07:34
Quote by Raine:



Rach Schools Joe Scarborough!
for the next break... Let me add that Scarborough is a indignant f*ckhead.



Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 14:09:52
The Hillary supporters on the SMS Live blog are not supportive of the cause with the way they behave.

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:11:24
Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 14:12:41
Laura Flanders is doing a forum with Ani DiFranco and Susan Faludi this Thursday night and I'm off.



The only problem is it's in Los Angeles.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/02/2008 14:17:37
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning Mala. How's it going in DC?




Pretty well, just waiting for the real warm spring weather to finally stay. Keeps jumping from 70 one day to 50 the next. Just love that transitional weather.



Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 14:17:44
That story was rather disturbing. Big EWWWw factor.



:wank:

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 14:21:20
Boner, t'ain't funny McGee.

Comment by TriSec on 04/02/2008 14:21:53
Quote by Raine:



Does this mean she is going to have like 6 sequals?!?!?




Nah, only the one. Remember, she's trying to turn Obama into "damaged goods" so that we get a President McCain. Then she can run against him in 2012 as the "I told you so!" candidate.







Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 14:24:50
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Raine:



Does this mean she is going to have like 6 sequals?!?!?




Nah, only the one. Remember, she's trying to turn Obama into "damaged goods" so that we get a President McCain. Then she can run against him in 2012 as the "I told you so!" candidate.







At the rate she's going, if her behavior creates a President McCain, she will be hopefully ostracized and that will finish off her political ambitions for good.

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:26:26
I may never be able to go to a DD again... :P

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:27:01
Happy Birthday in Der leader!!!

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 14:32:12
Quote by Raine:

I may never be able to go to a DD again... :P


What about Krispy Kreme?

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:36:53
Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:41:56
I posted this Tammy Baldwin story on les board.

Comment by wickedpam on 04/02/2008 14:42:47
Gays on a Plane : chuckle :

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:43:12
Nancy is like a Mom who writes a letter to get out of class.

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:47:21
Quote by wickedpam:

Gays on a Plane : chuckle :


:rofl:



Muthaf*ckn Gays on a plane!

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:50:59
We shop at three different places in order to save money on food.



Comment by Shane-O on 04/02/2008 14:51:06
Quote by livingonli:

Four organs? That's a lot to handle.


That was an "organ donation" (quiet Squeezy - I meant the other double entendre) I sent to months ago! But they seem to have less use for it than the wedding organ... Steph...

Go Booker T and the MG's!!!!

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:51:27
Comment by BobR on 04/02/2008 14:51:57
For some reason, that teacher story reminds me of Lord of the Flies

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:52:16
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by livingonli:

Four organs? That's a lot to handle.


That was an "organ donation" (quiet Squeezy - I meant the other double entendre) I sent to months ago! But they seem to have less use for it than the wedding organ... Steph...

Go Booker T and the MG's!!!!
OMG! I LOVE THAT AUDICON!!!







Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:53:30
God, John McCain sounds like a psychopath...

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:55:06
:rofl: my grandfather was surprised by Lint.. :orfl:



I gotta remember that line.

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:55:45
Jamming out...

Comment by wickedpam on 04/02/2008 14:55:56
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Gays on a Plane : chuckle :


:rofl:



Muthaf*ckn Gays on a plane!






:spit:



Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 14:56:35
From lettermen last night on John McCain:



"He looks like the guy who goes into town for turpentine. He looks like the guy who always has wiry hair growing out of new places. He looks like the guy who points out the spots they missed at the car wash."



:rofl:



Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 15:01:52
So, does John McCain have that old man smell like Mr. Burns?



http://images.art.com/images/-/The-Simpsons---Mr-Burns-Excellent--C11749617.jpeg


Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:03:15
Quote by livingonli:

So, does John McCain have that old man smell like Mr. Burns?



http://images.art.com/images/-/The-Simpsons---Mr-Burns-Excellent--C11749617.jpeg
OMG... I think they were separated at birth!!!



Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 15:05:01
"We both sold weapons to the Nazis but dammit mine worked!"

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:10:22
Shane-O you rock!

Comment by BobR on 04/02/2008 15:17:09
Jim is in rare form this morning...

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:19:02
Bill Richarson's Op Ed. This is CLASSIC. I love it...



Carville and others say that I owe President Clinton's wife my endorsement because he gave me two jobs. Would someone who worked for Carville then owe his wife, Mary Matalin, similar loyalty in her professional pursuits? Do the people now attacking me recall that I ran for president, albeit unsuccessfully, against Sen. Clinton? Was that also an act of disloyalty?
:rock:

Comment by Shane-O on 04/02/2008 15:23:51
Jim Ward - Keith Scott - I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE!!!

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:24:53
Quote by BobR:

Jim is in rare form this morning...
Wow, did janequajanhannah treat him to a special something something last night?



:rofl:



Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:26:53
:banana:

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:27:55
:rolleyes: OMG... debbie and

Comment by Shane-O on 04/02/2008 15:28:47
Quote by Raine:

Quote by BobR:

Jim is in rare form this morning...
Wow, did janequajanhannah treat him to a special something something last night?



:rofl:







Comment by Shane-O on 04/02/2008 15:30:11
To the last caller - Yes, it's necessary! - Get a sense of humor!

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:31:53
Listening to the news, and I have to say using the words John McCain and mate in the same sentance

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:33:43


A story I have been following...



When Hillary says that Barack is blocking the vote... she is pretty much lying.



And debbie Wasserman Shultz has some answering to do.

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:35:09
OMG, I FORGOT that Stallone endorsed McSaim!!!



:rofl:





Comment by wickedpam on 04/02/2008 15:35:27
Ed

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:35:29
OY... Ed shillz.





Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:36:16
Rabbit ears?!?!?! WTH does that mean?

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:39:11
Hail-lary's campaign is actually in debt... I say that because this is the Hail MAry portion of her campaign.





Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:47:57
**** Blog Announcement ****




Earlier this week I announced tha tI would be doing a audicon Blog this friday. Those plans will have to be delayed until next Monday, as April 4 is the 40th anniversary of the assassination of the Reverand Martin Luther King Jr.







I hope you understand that I feel it FAR more important to honour one of our greatest American Heroes.





Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 15:48:29
Forget Ed Schultz. I want Thom Hartmann back on my local progressive talk station.

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:49:56


The Clinton Campaign is still defending the Bosnia Story...

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 15:52:24
Jay Leno is a homophobe , imo.



Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 16:05:01
Quote by AZTurq:

Quote by Raine:

God, John McCain sounds like a psychopath...






He is. There are lots of stories circulating around AZ. Try listening to Jeff Farias on KPHX at 6pm EDT
I do! Farias rocks!



and welcome AZ! Long time no see!



Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 16:06:41
This is the bottom line... we MUST defeat John McCain in Novemeber.



that is a SERIOUS MUST.

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 16:07:24
Quote by AZTurq:

Quote by Raine:

God, John McCain sounds like a psychopath...






He is. There are lots of stories circulating around AZ. Try listening to Jeff Farias on KPHX at 6pm EDT


And why do people still treat him seriously? Maybe we would have been better off dealing with Romney or Fred Thompson.



And where's the Fred Grump drop?

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 16:09:19
'The teeny tiny voice of Terry Jeffries!



Oh Thom, this is like playing softball...

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 16:10:08
Terry Jeffries on Thom right now. All I can picture when he's on is Momma and Jim making fun of his squeaky Beaver-like voice.

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 16:10:44
Quote by livingonli:

And where's the Fred Grump drop?
Do we need to bring it back? Are you stomping your feet?







Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 16:15:46
Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

And where's the Fred Grump drop?
Do we need to bring it back? Are you stomping your feet?







And holding my breath.



I guess you weren't expecting anyone to mention Fred Thompson anymore. :P

Comment by BobR on 04/02/2008 16:17:38
Quote by livingonli:



And why do people still treat him seriously? Maybe we would have been better off dealing with Romney or Fred Thompson.



And where's the Fred Grump drop?


Sorry - I killed the Audicons table a couple weeks ago, and when I reloaded it, the shortcut was changed from "fred_gump" to "tired"

Comment by m-hadley on 04/02/2008 16:20:44
OMG, Terry Jeffries sounds like a grrrl - I've always known that he was the teeny tiny voiced republican with a big vision for America, but I've never heard his voice live - he was just on Thom Hartmann defending the dismantling of the Social Security system - ugh - what a teeny tiny voiced tool :D

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 16:20:45
Quote by AZTurq:

Get ready.



You're going to hear tons of these stories in the next six months.



Click on McCain's picture
I am bookmarking this. This is great information.



Scary, but really important stuff.



I still cannot believce no one is pounding him on the Keating issue.



Not to mention he HAS broken Federal Election laws.



No one in the media seems to want to talk about the fact that he is in violation of Public Financing laws.



Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 16:24:31
Someone was pistol-whipped inside a Maimi mall. MSNBC's on that story.

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 16:25:12
I could not agree more. Thanks AZ... ;)

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 16:27:23
Quote by livingonli:

Someone was pistol-whipped inside a Maimi mall. MSNBC's on that story.


BREAKING NEWS: Miami City Council to legislate Metal detectors at area malls.



What the hell is happening to our country?

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 16:33:19
AZ, really, it is nice to see you again. I remember you from Unfiltered and the AAP blog, right?

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 16:40:55
And on a lighter note, the MLB Extra Innings free preview continues today. Here are the game choices (channel numbers are In Demand's game channel numbers-please check EPG for actual numbers on your cable system).



1:05 PM Game 10-Kansas City at Detroit (FSN Detroit)

2:20 PM Game 9- Milwaukee at Cubs (CSN Chicago)

3:35 PM Game 8- Boston at Oakland (NESN)

7:05 PM Game 7- White Sox at Cleveland (SportsTime Ohio)

7:05 PM Game 6- Tampa Bay at Baltimore (MASN 2)

7:05 PM Game 10-Toronto at NY Yankees (YES) -- also on ESPN2

7:05 PM Game 9-Washington at Philadelphia (MASN)

7:10 PM Game 5- Arizona at Cincinnati (FSN Ohio)

7:10 PM Game 8-NY Mets at Florida (FSN Florida)

7:10 PM Game 12-Pittsburgh at Atlanta (FSN South)

8:10 PM Game 4- LA Angels at Minnesota (FSN North)

8:15 PM Game 11-Colorado at St. Louis (FSN Midwest)

10:05 PM Game 10- Houston at San Diego (FSN Houston)

10:10 PM Game 9-San Francisco at LA Dodgers (CSN Bay Area)

10:10 PM Game 8-Texas at Seattle (FSN Northwest)

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 16:42:02
7:05 PM Game 10-Toronto at NY Yankees (YES) -- also on ESPN2




Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 16:43:09
Quote by AZTurq:

Gotta go. Later guys

LAter! Come back agian now, Ya hear?



Comment by IzzyBitz on 04/02/2008 19:19:33




Don't mind me. Just dodging bullets on the local freeways. It's scary. I think it's a sign of the times and it's only going to get worse.

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 19:19:57
Where did everyone go?



Sammy on today, but no Sammy Cam.



Oh, well.

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 19:24:35
Quote by IzzyBitz:





Don't mind me. Just dodging bullets on the local freeways. It's scary. I think it's a sign of the times and it's only going to get worse.


I thought living in LA was supposed to be fun.

Comment by TriSec on 04/02/2008 19:33:30
Now, thats what I call a dead blog!





Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 19:33:30
In Demand is using the CSN-Bay Area feed and not the NESN feed for the Boston-Oakland game.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 04/02/2008 19:35:50
That's what the brochure said! Failed to mention helmets and bullet proof vests. I need to set up a new line on the expenses ledger.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/02/2008 19:39:10
Quote by IzzyBitz:





Don't mind me. Just dodging bullets on the local freeways. It's scary. I think it's a sign of the times and it's only going to get worse.






Open season on the freeway started today?

Comment by TriSec on 04/02/2008 19:56:41
Ya know, the beauty of plane porn is I can have videos running in the background right here on my desk at work and nobody is any the wiser...



Unless Connie or a Fortress happens to pop up. Then that could get ugly.





Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 19:58:28
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by IzzyBitz:





Don't mind me. Just dodging bullets on the local freeways. It's scary. I think it's a sign of the times and it's only going to get worse.






Open season on the freeway started today?




Or they just relocated after they closed the version that ran on I-64 in Charlottesville, VA.



Comment by IzzyBitz on 04/02/2008 20:01:20
Open season started around the beginning of the year. Car chases, school shootings and freeway shootings. However, the mayor is very busy banging whores, and the sheriff and police departments are busy covering their asses. Allegedly.

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 20:03:35
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Open season started around the beginning of the year. Car chases, school shootings and freeway shootings. However, the mayor is very busy banging whores, and the sheriff and police departments are busy covering their asses. Allegedly.


What happened with his former news reporter girlfriend? :hump:

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 20:04:22
Why do we not have humping emoticons? :taps foot:

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 20:29:53
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Open season started around the beginning of the year. Car chases, school shootings and freeway shootings. However, the mayor is very busy banging whores, and the sheriff and police departments are busy covering their asses. Allegedly.


What happened with his former news reporter girlfriend? :hump:




Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 20:41:26
Listenign to Sammy, this torture story -- stunning to me.

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 20:43:51
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by IzzyBitz:





Don't mind me. Just dodging bullets on the local freeways. It's scary. I think it's a sign of the times and it's only going to get worse.






Open season on the freeway started today?
Ah. Springtime for Cali...



Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 20:47:49
John McCain sold what little political soul he has left for the sake of his political ambition.

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 21:00:24
Time to go to the salt mine.



These late shifts are killing me.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 04/02/2008 21:05:29
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Open season started around the beginning of the year. Car chases, school shootings and freeway shootings. However, the mayor is very busy banging whores, and the sheriff and police departments are busy covering their asses. Allegedly.


What happened with his former news reporter girlfriend? :hump:




She disappeared. Word is she lost her job and moved out of town. Oh, the shame. The mayor's wife is probably going to take him to the cleaners, but he still walks around like his sh*t don't stink.

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 21:36:30
Comment by IzzyBitz on 04/02/2008 22:09:06
Just watched the video below of Rachel on Scarborough. He is an asshole. Runs away from the truth at bullet speed.

Comment by Raine on 04/02/2008 22:23:05
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Just watched the video below of Rachel on Scarborough. He is an asshole. Runs away from the truth at bullet speed.
Stunning, eh?





Total tool, not to mention a disprespectful asswipe.







Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 22:51:06
When Scarborough gets extra tooly, I am sorely tempted to bring up the dead intern.

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 23:37:42
Raine, are you watching the Yankee Game?

Comment by IzzyBitz on 04/02/2008 23:49:43
It is totally disrespectful for Scarborough to treat a guest like crap on the bottom of his shoe. I wrote a letter to MSNBC. She deserves an on air apology. I know hosts insult guests all the time if they don't agree with the talking points and BS, but this one was bad enough for me to put keyboard to email thingy. One time when Uncle Pat told another panelist to shut up, Rachel gave him the what's what on air. As I recall, the host (and I can't remember who was moderating the election night coverage), said nothing. It was probably the other tool, Chris Matthews. If it weren't for Keith, I wouldn't watch MSNBC. Harumpf.

Comment by livingonli on 04/02/2008 23:53:20
Well, Keith and Rachel are the reasons to watch MSNBC. :)

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/03/2008 00:06:07
Quote by livingonli:

When Scarborough gets extra tooly, I am sorely tempted to bring up the dead intern.






I hate to defend Joe, but I looked out the dead intern thing.



1. Not an intern, staffer.

2. Regional office in Florida.

3. He was in Washington.



Status of myth: busted.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 04/03/2008 00:34:16
Jesus Christ on a spoon!

Comment by livingonli on 04/03/2008 00:40:05
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Jesus Christ on a spoon!


Sounds sacrilicious. :P

Comment by Raine on 04/03/2008 00:57:47
Quote by IzzyBitz:

It is totally disrespectful for Scarborough to treat a guest like crap on the bottom of his shoe. I wrote a letter to MSNBC. She deserves an on air apology. I know hosts insult guests all the time if they don't agree with the talking points and BS, but this one was bad enough for me to put keyboard to email thingy. One time when Uncle Pat told another panelist to shut up, Rachel gave him the what's what on air. As I recall, the host (and I can't remember who was moderating the election night coverage), said nothing. It was probably the other tool, Chris Matthews. If it weren't for Keith, I wouldn't watch MSNBC. Harumpf.
I agree. I can wath MSNBC during the day.. they have good news coverage... But once 5 pm rolls around, aside from KO, the news gets cancelled...



This one... REALLY pissed me off..



Comment by IzzyBitz on 04/03/2008 01:06:13
To find out about the spoon, you need to watch Olbermann tonight, Liv. It's funny.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/03/2008 01:16:39
Not watching KO, watching Ye Olde Mythbusters Pyrate Especial. :pirate:



Unfortunately, they totally blew the part about splinters killing more people than cannon balls.

Comment by BobR on 04/03/2008 01:20:52
Quote by AZTurq:

Cargill advertising on Olbermann hyping the new leaner pork. Hate to tell them about the hormones needed to keep fat off the pigs.


I thought they had them run on treadmills and fed them bean sprouts...

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/03/2008 01:29:29
Quote by BobR:

Quote by AZTurq:

Cargill advertising on Olbermann hyping the new leaner pork. Hate to tell them about the hormones needed to keep fat off the pigs.


I thought they had them run on treadmills and fed them bean sprouts...






That is the organic pork.

Comment by livingonli on 04/03/2008 01:47:43
Quote by IzzyBitz:

To find out about the spoon, you need to watch Olbermann tonight, Liv. It's funny.


It will be waiting in my DVR when I get home.

Comment by livingonli on 04/03/2008 01:48:53
Is Raine off watching the Yankee Game?

Comment by velveeta jones on 04/03/2008 02:15:56
Velveeta watching the Braves...........



Raine is watching Yankees?



Oh Bunny.......... for shame......... tsk, tsk...........





Comment by Mondobubba on 04/03/2008 02:17:52
Quote by velveeta jones:

Velveeta watching the Braves...........



Raine is watching Yankees?



Oh Bunny.......... for shame......... tsk, tsk...........









They are both :evil:

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/03/2008 02:35:53
:rofl: I have now groked the fullness of "Jesus Christ on spoon!" :rofl: