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We are not the enemy. We are Americans
Author: Raine
Date: 11/08/2012 15:05:52
I read this post this morning, and I thought it was worth posting here:
source.
I wish I had written those words. Someone else did for all of us. On Wednesday, the Pollsters and Pundits who drilled - day after day - the lies, anger and distortion into people heads had only this to say: They were wrong. Oops. Dick Morris actually said: The denial is still there. There is no such thing as a *new* America. There is just the United States and a lot of people spent a lot of money to divide it. The NYT summed this up pretty simply: All that money and so little to show for it. This is more proof that the party of personal responsibility and fiscal conservatism exists no more. How they can make an attempt to get that so-called new American demographic without almost completely abandoning the philosophy they have had for decades? I don't see how that is possible.
People looked truly shocked when Romney lost. They looked shocked here in Virginia when Tim Kaine became senator-elect. They were shocked that the Tea Party agenda was truly rejected. They were shocked because the GOP has built a machine based on lies -- with an undercurrent that we are still a paternalistic country. Perhaps Dick Morris spoke truth by admitting many of the party leaders and pundits believe that this party - the GOP - is someone's father's party. He seems genuinely surprised that a very large swath of Americans are "single women, minorities and voters under 30". This is who they look at as others, not them - not members of the GOP. They drove an antiquated philosophy into the heads of people, and it really doesn't mesh up with the realities of today. The GOP has presented a political ideology they no longer believe they can defend but still want people to support. It's no wonder people were so shocked and confused and saddened with the results of this election.
When you consider that Chris Christie - and how he took care of his state before, during and after Superstorm Sandy - was treated FAR worse than Todd Akin and Richard Murdock (the 2 rape apologists that were running for the Senate) that says a lot about the priorities of a political party. They never admonished Joe Walsh for his hurtful words; instead, they demanded an apology from Christie for actually showing that Government could work to benefit its people. This is a party that has gone so far backwards, they are actually amazed that we are nation of people that embraces diversity and free thought. We are not demographics that should be split up and attacked. We are Black, white, yellow, brown. We are religious, agnostic and atheist. We are gay, lesbian, straight, transgender and bisexual. We are mothers, daughters, fathers and brothers. We don't like to see women attacked. We don't like being told that some of us are more deserving of equality than others. We don't like government in our bodies. We don't like one party telling people that rape isn't always rape. We don't like to see that the GOP considers women and people of color as minorities and then treats them as such. We don't like seeing people having their vote suppressed. We don't like constantly being told that this nation is a hellhole and that only one party will make it better.
All this proves that the Unites States of America cannot be bought and sold to the highest bidder. It proves that we believe in our nation - in spite of the lies. How the Republican party can become relevant again without relying on the fear and anger of people, I don't know. What I do know is that We the People are not the enemy. Maybe the GOP would benefit from starting there by accepting responsibility for what they have done.
Liberals are not the enemy. We are Americans. Don't let people lie to you.
and 
Raine
A serious and sympathetic post for any lurking conservatives.
Your pollsters and your pundits lied to you.
They told you all the mainstream polls were "skewed".
They told you it was going to be a Romney landslide.
They said their internal polls showed that Romney was ahead, and that Pennsylvania was in play.
They lied.
They did it because they wanted to manipulate you and make sure that you were excited enough to go out and vote. Maybe you understand why they lied, but it should be clear to you by now, that they did indeed lie to you.
They lie to you about other things as well. They definitely lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. They are lying to you about climate change. And they constantly lie to you about the income distribution of the tax cuts they propose.
The biggest lies they tell, though, are about us - the liberals. The truth is this:
We believe in hard work, and that it would be best if every able-bodied working age person had a job.
We believe in families; strong families make a strong America.
We believe in the freedom of religion. We would never support a candidate who was openly hostile to Christianity (or Judaism, or Islam, etc.).
We believe in success. Most of us do not favor punitive tax rates for the rich; we just think that middle class and working class families should get extra breaks on their taxes that the rich do not need.
We believe in free enterprise capitalism (well, most of us). Capitalism works through competition, and competition fails when big businesses are allowed to run roughshod over smaller businesses and workers. That's why we favor regulated capitalism instead of a Wild West free-for-all.
Most of all, we believe in America. We love this country and we strive to make it better. We may not always be right about everything, but we are motivated by our love of the country and its people - ALL of its people.
We are your friends and your neighbors. We have jobs, kids, mortgages, bills, honey-do lists, and headaches just the same as you. We aren't the monsters Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck told you we were.
Your pollsters and your pundits lied to you.
I'm telling you the truth.
I wish I had written those words. Someone else did for all of us. On Wednesday, the Pollsters and Pundits who drilled - day after day - the lies, anger and distortion into people heads had only this to say: They were wrong. Oops. Dick Morris actually said:
“What this is saying is this is the new America. This isn’t your father’s America.”
“The percentage of single women, minorities and voters under 30 is so large at this point that unless the Republican Party fundamentally changes its appeal to those voters, it can never win an election,” Morris said.”
The most expensive election in American history drew to a close this week with a price tag estimated at more than $6 billion, propelled by legal and regulatory decisions that allowed wealthy donors to pour record amounts of cash into races around the country.
But while outside spending affected the election in innumerable ways — reshaping the Republican presidential nominating contest, clogging the airwaves with unprecedented amounts of negative advertising and shoring up embattled Republican incumbents in the House — the prizes most sought by the emerging class of megadonors remained outside their grasp. President Obama will return to the White House in January, and the Democrats have strengthened their lock on the Senate.
People looked truly shocked when Romney lost. They looked shocked here in Virginia when Tim Kaine became senator-elect. They were shocked that the Tea Party agenda was truly rejected. They were shocked because the GOP has built a machine based on lies -- with an undercurrent that we are still a paternalistic country. Perhaps Dick Morris spoke truth by admitting many of the party leaders and pundits believe that this party - the GOP - is someone's father's party. He seems genuinely surprised that a very large swath of Americans are "single women, minorities and voters under 30". This is who they look at as others, not them - not members of the GOP. They drove an antiquated philosophy into the heads of people, and it really doesn't mesh up with the realities of today. The GOP has presented a political ideology they no longer believe they can defend but still want people to support. It's no wonder people were so shocked and confused and saddened with the results of this election.
When you consider that Chris Christie - and how he took care of his state before, during and after Superstorm Sandy - was treated FAR worse than Todd Akin and Richard Murdock (the 2 rape apologists that were running for the Senate) that says a lot about the priorities of a political party. They never admonished Joe Walsh for his hurtful words; instead, they demanded an apology from Christie for actually showing that Government could work to benefit its people. This is a party that has gone so far backwards, they are actually amazed that we are nation of people that embraces diversity and free thought. We are not demographics that should be split up and attacked. We are Black, white, yellow, brown. We are religious, agnostic and atheist. We are gay, lesbian, straight, transgender and bisexual. We are mothers, daughters, fathers and brothers. We don't like to see women attacked. We don't like being told that some of us are more deserving of equality than others. We don't like government in our bodies. We don't like one party telling people that rape isn't always rape. We don't like to see that the GOP considers women and people of color as minorities and then treats them as such. We don't like seeing people having their vote suppressed. We don't like constantly being told that this nation is a hellhole and that only one party will make it better.
All this proves that the Unites States of America cannot be bought and sold to the highest bidder. It proves that we believe in our nation - in spite of the lies. How the Republican party can become relevant again without relying on the fear and anger of people, I don't know. What I do know is that We the People are not the enemy. Maybe the GOP would benefit from starting there by accepting responsibility for what they have done.
Liberals are not the enemy. We are Americans. Don't let people lie to you.
and Raine
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 11/08/2012 15:23:53
wickedpam on 11/08/2012 15:23:53
First!
Comment by 
Raine on 11/08/2012 15:27:48
I couldn't find a way to put this in this blog, but this is REALLY relevant and worthy of a future blog post.
My city-- alexandria is generally very blue, but this year -- not one republican was elected or re-elected.
And then there is this from California:
Raine on 11/08/2012 15:27:48
Quote by TriSec:
And speaking of Nate, I was just looking over the "counties" map.
VT, MA, and RI had every county vote blue, the only 3 states nationally.
My city-- alexandria is generally very blue, but this year -- not one republican was elected or re-elected.
And then there is this from California:
If preliminary results hold, 2012 will mark the first time in 80 years that either political party in California has enjoyed supermajority control. Republicans everywhere should be paying close attention. Because the demographic trends that led to Obama’s reelection — the increasing diversity of the electorate, the relative liberalism of the youth vote, the declining influence of old white males — made their national debut in California in the late ’80s and early ’90s. The rest of the nation is just catching up.
Before 1992, California had not given its electoral votes to a Democrat running for president since Lyndon Johnson’s 1964 electoral landslide. But in the early 1990s California became a majority-minority state, and since then the state has inexorably turned bluer and bluer (aided by ham-handed Republican legislation on immigration that profoundly alienated Hispanics). Only 30 percent of Californians are now registered Republicans, the lowest mark since record-keeping began. In 2012, every single statewide office belonged to Democrats, and Sen. Dianne Feinstein ran essentially unopposed. Arch-conservative Republican Dan Lungren was the state’s attorney general from 1991-1999. He lost his U.S. House of Representatives seat last night.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 15:28:38
Raine on 11/08/2012 15:28:38
Oh, btw? I now consider Virginia blue. 
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 11/08/2012 15:34:39
trojanrabbit on 11/08/2012 15:34:39
Looks like there might be special election in MA soon.
Rumors are that Obama may select Kerry as SoS and/or Deval Patrick as Attorney General.
Would Brown run again for either spot? I'd say definitely for Senator, probably for Governor. Actually he might make a decent Governor if he really believed in that bi-partisan malarkey and didn't have to depend upon turtle-droppings....if you know what I mean.
Rumors are that Obama may select Kerry as SoS and/or Deval Patrick as Attorney General.
Would Brown run again for either spot? I'd say definitely for Senator, probably for Governor. Actually he might make a decent Governor if he really believed in that bi-partisan malarkey and didn't have to depend upon turtle-droppings....if you know what I mean.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 15:39:03
I fully expect Kerry to be the SoS pick. been hearing that as well -- PErsonally, as great as Kerry would be, it might be interesting to see Jim Webb picked, considering come JAnuary he'll not longer be senator, and he has some serious Foreign policy creds... that would leave Massachusetts with two (D) senators
And I bet Brown does run again. I can't see him running for Governor. Ugh.
Raine on 11/08/2012 15:39:03
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Looks like there might be special election in MA soon.
Rumors are that Obama may select Kerry as SoS and/or Deval Patrick as Attorney General.
Would Brown run again for either spot? I'd say definitely for Senator, probably for Governor. Actually he might make a decent Governor if he really believed in that bi-partisan malarkey and didn't have to depend upon turtle-droppings....if you know what I mean.
And I bet Brown does run again. I can't see him running for Governor. Ugh.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 11/08/2012 15:40:00
Scoopster on 11/08/2012 15:40:00
Comment by 
TriSec on 11/08/2012 15:44:31
TriSec on 11/08/2012 15:44:31
Migrating as ordere...with carryover:
Will, I had my gay best friend stand for me as Best Man in a full Catholic Mass on an actual altar.
Lightning did not strike, nor has my marriage collapsed because of this.
I still harp on the little-known quote from Barney Frank (D-MA, Ret.)
"The only people affected by gay marriage in this state were the folks that lived next to a gay couple...they got invited to the wedding and had to buy them a present."
Quote by Will in Chicago:
No church, mosque or synagogue leaders in Massachusetts has been forced to perform a marriage that they did not wish to perform. With years of marriage equality in the Bay State, none of the marriages of my friends in the Bay State have suffered.
Will, I had my gay best friend stand for me as Best Man in a full Catholic Mass on an actual altar.
Lightning did not strike, nor has my marriage collapsed because of this.
I still harp on the little-known quote from Barney Frank (D-MA, Ret.)
"The only people affected by gay marriage in this state were the folks that lived next to a gay couple...they got invited to the wedding and had to buy them a present."
Comment by 
BobR on 11/08/2012 15:44:53
oh please send Sherriff Joe packing
BobR on 11/08/2012 15:44:53
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..
Get this shit.. in Maricopa County AZ Joe Arpaio was re-elected - or was he?
oh please send Sherriff Joe packing
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2012 15:45:21
I'm thinking more an indigo (bluish purple)
wickedpam on 11/08/2012 15:45:21
Quote by Raine:
Oh, btw? I now consider Virginia blue.
I'm thinking more an indigo (bluish purple)
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2012 15:57:36
there is a lot of pearl clutching - I kind feel sad that they feel so sad.
wickedpam on 11/08/2012 15:57:36
Quote by wickedpam:
White People Mourning Romney oh dear
there is a lot of pearl clutching - I kind feel sad that they feel so sad.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 11/08/2012 16:03:07
Will in Chicago on 11/08/2012 16:03:07
Raine, thank you for an eloquent blog.
I am not sure if many in the GOP will understand that they were lied to about their fellow Americans being the enemy. I think that it may take some time for people to recover from the shock of losing an election when they were told that they would win.
The big question is when they do recover, will they be open to consider different points of view or will double down on their policies? It will be a very interesting time for the GOP and their supporters.
I am not sure if many in the GOP will understand that they were lied to about their fellow Americans being the enemy. I think that it may take some time for people to recover from the shock of losing an election when they were told that they would win.
The big question is when they do recover, will they be open to consider different points of view or will double down on their policies? It will be a very interesting time for the GOP and their supporters.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 16:06:08
It is sorta sad.
Appropos of the blog, they are sad for being so mislead, I believe.
Raine on 11/08/2012 16:06:08
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by wickedpam:
White People Mourning Romney oh dear
there is a lot of pearl clutching - I kind feel sad that they feel so sad.
Appropos of the blog, they are sad for being so mislead, I believe.
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2012 16:07:39
TriSec on 11/08/2012 16:07:39
Divide and conquer...I think that's been a guiding principle of war since Sun Tzu....
Or, as a certain Mr. Franklin once said..."A house divided againt itself cannot stand"
The GOP has centainly been anti-American in that regard over the last decade or so, haven't they?
Or, as a certain Mr. Franklin once said..."A house divided againt itself cannot stand"
The GOP has centainly been anti-American in that regard over the last decade or so, haven't they?
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 16:08:53
I don't know where it goes from here, Will.
When people like Newt and Morris admit they backed themselves into an ideological corner -- that is pretty bad.
Raine on 11/08/2012 16:08:53
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Raine, thank you for an eloquent blog.
I am not sure if many in the GOP will understand that they were lied to about their fellow Americans being the enemy. I think that it may take some time for people to recover from the shock of losing an election when they were told that they would win.
The big question is when they do recover, will they be open to consider different points of view or will double down on their policies? It will be a very interesting time for the GOP and their supporters.
When people like Newt and Morris admit they backed themselves into an ideological corner -- that is pretty bad.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 16:10:50
The Neo-Conservative movement certainly is.
Karl Rove, Grover Norquist -- they are. They put power above the NAtion.
Raine on 11/08/2012 16:10:50
Quote by TriSec:
Divide and conquer...I think that's been a guiding principle of war since Sun Tzu....
Or, as a certain Mr. Franklin once said..."A house divided againt itself cannot stand"
The GOP has centainly been anti-American in that regard over the last decade or so, haven't they?
Karl Rove, Grover Norquist -- they are. They put power above the NAtion.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 16:13:51
Raine on 11/08/2012 16:13:51
Florida goes to OBama!
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 16:41:18
Raine on 11/08/2012 16:41:18
WaPo has an interesting post Romney piece:
At the Wednesday breakfast, Romney told the donors he believed Hurricane Sandy stunted his momentum in the final week of the campaign, according to multiple donors present.
Although Romney himself stopped short of placing any blame on New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who praised President Obama’s leadership during the storm, several Romney supporters privately pointed fingers at the outspoken governor.
“A lot of people feel like Christie hurt, that we definitely lost four or five points between the storm and Chris Christie giving Obama a chance to be bigger than life,†said one of Romney’s biggest fundraisers, who requested anonymity to speak candidly.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 16:43:59
Raine on 11/08/2012 16:43:59
And the admission --the truth they will never ever tell the people who voted for romeny:
“The problem with Sandy was not Chris Christie,†said one political adviser. “The problem with Sandy was we couldn’t talk about the choice argument for the last week of the campaign. At a time when Barack Obama’s campaign was small, it allowed him to be bigger, and provided him a vehicle for him to show he can be bipartisan.â€
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2012 16:44:29
So, a president being Presidential, and a governor being Gubernatorial are now bad things in right-wing wold.
At least that's what I read into this.
TriSec on 11/08/2012 16:44:29
Quote by Raine:
WaPo has an interesting post Romney piece:
So, a president being Presidential, and a governor being Gubernatorial are now bad things in right-wing wold.
At least that's what I read into this.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2012 16:44:55
how selfish of Christie to put is state before Mitt's crowning
wickedpam on 11/08/2012 16:44:55
Quote by Raine:
WaPo has an interesting post Romney piece:At the Wednesday breakfast, Romney told the donors he believed Hurricane Sandy stunted his momentum in the final week of the campaign, according to multiple donors present.
Although Romney himself stopped short of placing any blame on New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who praised President Obama’s leadership during the storm, several Romney supporters privately pointed fingers at the outspoken governor.
“A lot of people feel like Christie hurt, that we definitely lost four or five points between the storm and Chris Christie giving Obama a chance to be bigger than life,†said one of Romney’s biggest fundraisers, who requested anonymity to speak candidly.
how selfish of Christie to put is state before Mitt's crowning
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 16:45:33
Sad.
Raine on 11/08/2012 16:45:33
He thanked his aides and said goodbye. His Secret Service detail gone — and with it his code name, Javelin, after a car once made by his father’s company — Romney was spotted driving off in the backseat of his son Tagg’s car. His wife, Ann, was riding shotgun.
Sad.
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2012 16:53:33
TriSec on 11/08/2012 16:53:33
Me Want Lunch.
Chemo is doing it's magic and making me ravenous again. You may want to hide any stray children or small dogs, which I'm told make an excellent stew.
Chemo is doing it's magic and making me ravenous again. You may want to hide any stray children or small dogs, which I'm told make an excellent stew.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 16:55:07
Mmmm dog stew!
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 16:55:07
Quote by TriSec:
Me Want Lunch.
Chemo is doing it's magic and making me ravenous again. You may want to hide any stray children or small dogs, which I'm told make an excellent stew.
Mmmm dog stew!
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2012 16:58:18
TriSec on 11/08/2012 16:58:18
A post-mortem for Senator Brown.
Every time Scott Brown challenged Elizabeth Warren on the issue of her Native American heritage he struck a chord with women.
Unfortunately, it was a sour note. The state’s junior senator was basically arguing that Warren didn’t deserve her success and the only way she got ahead was by claiming to be part Cherokee. By insulting Warren, Brown insulted every woman who had to scratch and fight and claw to prove her worth, and her right to an equal seat at the table with men.
Women definitely helped elect Warren as the first woman to represent Massachusetts in the US Senate. A University of Massachusetts exit poll found that Warren had a 20-point lead among women, while men split fairly evenly between the two candidates.
But Warren didn’t win “just†because she’s a woman. Warren beat Brown because she came across as smarter and more sophisticated. She had a bigger, broader agenda that resonated with more Massachusetts voters who showed up on Election Day.
The Republican incumbent faced a different constituency than the one that sent him to Washington in a special election held after Ted Kennedy’s death. One million more voters turned out in 2012 than in 2010, and most were there to cast a vote for President Obama.
With a huge audience, national and local, watching this race, Brown cast aside conventional wisdom about how to run against a female opponent.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 17:02:04
Finally. But you know Obama doesn't have a mandate. Dick "Toe Sucker" Morris said so. He's never wrong!
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 17:02:04
Quote by Raine:
Florida goes to OBama!
Finally. But you know Obama doesn't have a mandate. Dick "Toe Sucker" Morris said so. He's never wrong!
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2012 17:11:28
TriSec on 11/08/2012 17:11:28
So, the GOP makes much out of allegedly dead voters casting ballots in Chicago....
But what about the elertorate in Alabama and Florida voting for dead candidates?
But what about the elertorate in Alabama and Florida voting for dead candidates?
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 17:13:40
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 17:13:40
Oh great the same time wasting Christian Wacadoodle from monday.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 17:20:33
Raine on 11/08/2012 17:20:33
What fuckhatterery: Obama Won, So I Fired 22 Employees
There has to be some kind of legal redress to this. Civl rights act of 63 or 64?
There has to be some kind of legal redress to this. Civl rights act of 63 or 64?
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2012 17:26:05
jerk
wickedpam on 11/08/2012 17:26:05
Quote by Raine:
What fuckhatterery: Obama Won, So I Fired 22 Employees
There has to be some kind of legal redress to this. Civl rights act of 63 or 64?
jerk
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2012 17:26:06
TriSec on 11/08/2012 17:26:06
No, not The Onion
However, for me, I'm choosing another rather unique path; a personal boycott, if you will. Starting early this morning, I am going to un-friend every single individual on Facebook who voted for Obama, or I even suspect may have Democrat leanings. I will do the same in person. All family and friends, even close family and friends, who I know to be Democrats are hereby dead to me. I vow never to speak to them again for the rest of my life, or have any communications with them. They are in short, the enemies of liberty. They deserve nothing less than hatred and utter contempt.
I strongly urge all other libertarians to do the same. Are you married to someone who voted for Obama, have a girlfriend who voted 'O'. Divorce them. Break up with them without haste. Vow not to attend family functions, Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas for example, if there will be any family members in attendance who are Democrats.
Do you work for someone who voted for Obama? Quit your job. Co-workers who voted for Obama. Simply don't talk to them in the workplace, unless your boss instructs you too for work-related only purposes. Have clients who voted Democrat? Call them up this morning and tell them to take their business elsewhere.
Have a neighbor who votes for Obama? You could take a crap on their lawn. Then again, probably not a good idea since it would be technically illegal to do this. But you could have your dog take care of business. Not your fault if he just happens to choose that particular spot.
And start your boycott of your Democrat friends and family today. Like this morning. First thing you can do, very easy, is to un-friend all Democrats from your Facebook account.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 17:28:40
lunacy--
Raine on 11/08/2012 17:28:40
Quote by TriSec:
No, not The Onion
However, for me, I'm choosing another rather unique path; a personal boycott, if you will. Starting early this morning, I am going to un-friend every single individual on Facebook who voted for Obama, or I even suspect may have Democrat leanings. I will do the same in person. All family and friends, even close family and friends, who I know to be Democrats are hereby dead to me. I vow never to speak to them again for the rest of my life, or have any communications with them. They are in short, the enemies of liberty. They deserve nothing less than hatred and utter contempt.
I strongly urge all other libertarians to do the same. Are you married to someone who voted for Obama, have a girlfriend who voted 'O'. Divorce them. Break up with them without haste. Vow not to attend family functions, Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas for example, if there will be any family members in attendance who are Democrats.
Do you work for someone who voted for Obama? Quit your job. Co-workers who voted for Obama. Simply don't talk to them in the workplace, unless your boss instructs you too for work-related only purposes. Have clients who voted Democrat? Call them up this morning and tell them to take their business elsewhere.
Have a neighbor who votes for Obama? You could take a crap on their lawn. Then again, probably not a good idea since it would be technically illegal to do this. But you could have your dog take care of business. Not your fault if he just happens to choose that particular spot.
And start your boycott of your Democrat friends and family today. Like this morning. First thing you can do, very easy, is to un-friend all Democrats from your Facebook account.
lunacy--
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2012 17:30:00
someone's gonna be awful lonely or join a militia in the mountains somewhere
wickedpam on 11/08/2012 17:30:00
Quote by TriSec:
No, not The Onion
However, for me, I'm choosing another rather unique path; a personal boycott, if you will. Starting early this morning, I am going to un-friend every single individual on Facebook who voted for Obama, or I even suspect may have Democrat leanings. I will do the same in person. All family and friends, even close family and friends, who I know to be Democrats are hereby dead to me. I vow never to speak to them again for the rest of my life, or have any communications with them. They are in short, the enemies of liberty. They deserve nothing less than hatred and utter contempt.
I strongly urge all other libertarians to do the same. Are you married to someone who voted for Obama, have a girlfriend who voted 'O'. Divorce them. Break up with them without haste. Vow not to attend family functions, Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas for example, if there will be any family members in attendance who are Democrats.
Do you work for someone who voted for Obama? Quit your job. Co-workers who voted for Obama. Simply don't talk to them in the workplace, unless your boss instructs you too for work-related only purposes. Have clients who voted Democrat? Call them up this morning and tell them to take their business elsewhere.
Have a neighbor who votes for Obama? You could take a crap on their lawn. Then again, probably not a good idea since it would be technically illegal to do this. But you could have your dog take care of business. Not your fault if he just happens to choose that particular spot.
And start your boycott of your Democrat friends and family today. Like this morning. First thing you can do, very easy, is to un-friend all Democrats from your Facebook account.
someone's gonna be awful lonely or join a militia in the mountains somewhere
Comment by Scoopster on 11/08/2012 17:35:58
Scoopster on 11/08/2012 17:35:58
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 17:40:47
What an asshole.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 17:40:47
Quote by TriSec:
No, not The Onion
However, for me, I'm choosing another rather unique path; a personal boycott, if you will. Starting early this morning, I am going to un-friend every single individual on Facebook who voted for Obama, or I even suspect may have Democrat leanings. I will do the same in person. All family and friends, even close family and friends, who I know to be Democrats are hereby dead to me. I vow never to speak to them again for the rest of my life, or have any communications with them. They are in short, the enemies of liberty. They deserve nothing less than hatred and utter contempt.
I strongly urge all other libertarians to do the same. Are you married to someone who voted for Obama, have a girlfriend who voted 'O'. Divorce them. Break up with them without haste. Vow not to attend family functions, Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas for example, if there will be any family members in attendance who are Democrats.
Do you work for someone who voted for Obama? Quit your job. Co-workers who voted for Obama. Simply don't talk to them in the workplace, unless your boss instructs you too for work-related only purposes. Have clients who voted Democrat? Call them up this morning and tell them to take their business elsewhere.
Have a neighbor who votes for Obama? You could take a crap on their lawn. Then again, probably not a good idea since it would be technically illegal to do this. But you could have your dog take care of business. Not your fault if he just happens to choose that particular spot.
And start your boycott of your Democrat friends and family today. Like this morning. First thing you can do, very easy, is to un-friend all Democrats from your Facebook account.
What an asshole.
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2012 17:46:44
TriSec on 11/08/2012 17:46:44
Huh, Guess Obama sucks, then.
WASHINGTON - The U.S. trade deficit narrowed in September as exports increased, suggesting the economy expanded more than previously believed in the third quarter.
The seasonally adjusted monthly trade gap fell to $41.55 billion, the smallest deficit since December 2010, the Commerce Department said on Thursday. Analysts were expecting the trade gap would widen to $45.0 billion.
The reading suggests exports did more to boost economic growth in the third quarter than previously believed. Gross domestic product expanded 2.0 percent in the period, according to initial estimates.
U.S. exports rose 3.1 percent in September, the biggest increase in more than a year despite a debt crisis in Europe that has weighed on the global economy.
Exports to the European Union were flat compared to the prior month, although the figures were not adjusted for seasonal swings. Unadjusted exports to major trade partners Canada and Mexico fell in the same period.
U.S. imports rose 1.5 percent in September when seasonally adjusted.
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2012 18:02:59
TriSec on 11/08/2012 18:02:59
We're having fire alarm testing tomorrow. That will be soothing at 8am.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 18:03:20
I don't think he gets out of his bunker much anyway, Mala.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 18:03:20
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:
No, not The Onion
However, for me, I'm choosing another rather unique path; a personal boycott, if you will. Starting early this morning, I am going to un-friend every single individual on Facebook who voted for Obama, or I even suspect may have Democrat leanings. I will do the same in person. All family and friends, even close family and friends, who I know to be Democrats are hereby dead to me. I vow never to speak to them again for the rest of my life, or have any communications with them. They are in short, the enemies of liberty. They deserve nothing less than hatred and utter contempt.
I strongly urge all other libertarians to do the same. Are you married to someone who voted for Obama, have a girlfriend who voted 'O'. Divorce them. Break up with them without haste. Vow not to attend family functions, Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas for example, if there will be any family members in attendance who are Democrats.
Do you work for someone who voted for Obama? Quit your job. Co-workers who voted for Obama. Simply don't talk to them in the workplace, unless your boss instructs you too for work-related only purposes. Have clients who voted Democrat? Call them up this morning and tell them to take their business elsewhere.
Have a neighbor who votes for Obama? You could take a crap on their lawn. Then again, probably not a good idea since it would be technically illegal to do this. But you could have your dog take care of business. Not your fault if he just happens to choose that particular spot.
And start your boycott of your Democrat friends and family today. Like this morning. First thing you can do, very easy, is to un-friend all Democrats from your Facebook account.
someone's gonna be awful lonely or join a militia in the mountains somewhere
I don't think he gets out of his bunker much anyway, Mala.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 11/08/2012 18:05:47
As Euripides wrote, "Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad." I think this person's long drive is nearly done.
Will in Chicago on 11/08/2012 18:05:47
Quote by TriSec:
No, not The Onion
However, for me, I'm choosing another rather unique path; a personal boycott, if you will. Starting early this morning, I am going to un-friend every single individual on Facebook who voted for Obama, or I even suspect may have Democrat leanings. I will do the same in person. All family and friends, even close family and friends, who I know to be Democrats are hereby dead to me. I vow never to speak to them again for the rest of my life, or have any communications with them. They are in short, the enemies of liberty. They deserve nothing less than hatred and utter contempt.
I strongly urge all other libertarians to do the same. Are you married to someone who voted for Obama, have a girlfriend who voted 'O'. Divorce them. Break up with them without haste. Vow not to attend family functions, Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas for example, if there will be any family members in attendance who are Democrats.
Do you work for someone who voted for Obama? Quit your job. Co-workers who voted for Obama. Simply don't talk to them in the workplace, unless your boss instructs you too for work-related only purposes. Have clients who voted Democrat? Call them up this morning and tell them to take their business elsewhere.
Have a neighbor who votes for Obama? You could take a crap on their lawn. Then again, probably not a good idea since it would be technically illegal to do this. But you could have your dog take care of business. Not your fault if he just happens to choose that particular spot.
And start your boycott of your Democrat friends and family today. Like this morning. First thing you can do, very easy, is to un-friend all Democrats from your Facebook account.
As Euripides wrote, "Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad." I think this person's long drive is nearly done.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 11/08/2012 18:07:17
Will in Chicago on 11/08/2012 18:07:17
Meanwhile, here is some disturbing news from Tibet from HuffPo:
At Least 4 Tibetans Self-Immolate In Protest Of Chinese Rule, As Alarming Trend Continues To Gain Momentum
At Least 4 Tibetans Self-Immolate In Protest Of Chinese Rule, As Alarming Trend Continues To Gain Momentum
Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/08/2012 18:31:53
"The kinfolk said Cletus move away from there
Somalia is the place you oughta be
So he loaded up the boat and then moved to Mogadishu"
Yeah I know the rhyming doesn't work at all.
trojanrabbit on 11/08/2012 18:31:53
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by TriSec:
No, not The Onion
However, for me, I'm choosing another rather unique path; a personal boycott, if you will. Starting early this morning, I am going to un-friend every single individual on Facebook who voted for Obama, or I even suspect may have Democrat leanings. I will do the same in person. All family and friends, even close family and friends, who I know to be Democrats are hereby dead to me. I vow never to speak to them again for the rest of my life, or have any communications with them. They are in short, the enemies of liberty. They deserve nothing less than hatred and utter contempt.
I strongly urge all other libertarians to do the same. Are you married to someone who voted for Obama, have a girlfriend who voted 'O'. Divorce them. Break up with them without haste. Vow not to attend family functions, Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas for example, if there will be any family members in attendance who are Democrats.
Do you work for someone who voted for Obama? Quit your job. Co-workers who voted for Obama. Simply don't talk to them in the workplace, unless your boss instructs you too for work-related only purposes. Have clients who voted Democrat? Call them up this morning and tell them to take their business elsewhere.
Have a neighbor who votes for Obama? You could take a crap on their lawn. Then again, probably not a good idea since it would be technically illegal to do this. But you could have your dog take care of business. Not your fault if he just happens to choose that particular spot.
And start your boycott of your Democrat friends and family today. Like this morning. First thing you can do, very easy, is to un-friend all Democrats from your Facebook account.
As Euripides wrote, "Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad." I think this person's long drive is nearly done.
"The kinfolk said Cletus move away from there
Somalia is the place you oughta be
So he loaded up the boat and then moved to Mogadishu"
Yeah I know the rhyming doesn't work at all.
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2012 18:58:12
TriSec on 11/08/2012 18:58:12
Somalia Now!
It is time for you to leave.
Better for the rest.
The Right has gone nuts.
Renounce your citizenship
So we can all win.
My, oh my, oh my!
Hate and vitriol rules all
At least on the Right.
No time for gloating.
Yes we won, but not easy.
But they will still block.
Ok, I'll stop now.
I'm sorry I'm a machine.
Haiku is my world.
It is time for you to leave.
Better for the rest.
The Right has gone nuts.
Renounce your citizenship
So we can all win.
My, oh my, oh my!
Hate and vitriol rules all
At least on the Right.
No time for gloating.
Yes we won, but not easy.
But they will still block.
Ok, I'll stop now.
I'm sorry I'm a machine.
Haiku is my world.
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2012 19:03:24
TriSec on 11/08/2012 19:03:24
I swear, when I trock down the person that decided the phone keypad and the computer keypad should be in reverse order, there is going to be mayhem.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 19:26:53
Don't forget to make a video of this rampage.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 19:26:53
Quote by TriSec:
I swear, when I trock down the person that decided the phone keypad and the computer keypad should be in reverse order, there is going to be mayhem.
Don't forget to make a video of this rampage.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 19:28:08
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 19:28:08
Poor Karl Rove, he is being beaten up by the right wing.
:plops down in comfy chair, with a big bowl of organic popcorn|:
:plops down in comfy chair, with a big bowl of organic popcorn|:
Comment by TriSec on 11/08/2012 19:57:08
TriSec on 11/08/2012 19:57:08
Romney is even a prick with his own staff
BOSTON -- From the moment Mitt Romney stepped off stage Tuesday night, having just delivered a brief concession speech he wrote only that evening, the massive infrastructure surrounding his campaign quickly began to disassemble itself.
Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked.
"Fiscally conservative," sighed one aide the next day.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 20:02:23
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 20:02:23
Romney's speech was not gracious.
I didn't think his concession speech was all that gracious. Now I have somebody backing me up.
I didn't think his concession speech was all that gracious. Now I have somebody backing me up.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 20:08:12
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 20:08:12
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 20:25:47
Raine on 11/08/2012 20:25:47
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 20:28:39
I;m still waiting for the other shoe to drop with this story.
Raine on 11/08/2012 20:28:39
Quote by Mondobubba:
Mark Bassely Youssef (remember him) is going to jail for a year.
I;m still waiting for the other shoe to drop with this story.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 20:40:08
Raine on 11/08/2012 20:40:08
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 21:04:45
When does he finally retire once and for all? Herman Cain promises to be far more entertaining.
And one more thing... these people have all believed their own hype to the point where it is starting to look abusively incestuous. They are dangerous.
Raine on 11/08/2012 21:04:45
Quote by Mondobubba:
Neal Boortz had a twitter meltdown too.
And one more thing... these people have all believed their own hype to the point where it is starting to look abusively incestuous. They are dangerous.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/08/2012 21:06:01
Fixed....
trojanrabbit on 11/08/2012 21:06:01
Quote by TriSec:
Romney is even a prick with his own staff
BOSTON -- From the moment Mitt Romney stepped off stage Tuesday night, having just delivered a brief concession speech he wrote only that evening, the massive infrastructure surrounding his campaign quickly began to disassemble itself.
Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked.
"Fiscally conservativeCheap Bastard," sighed one aide the next day.
Fixed....
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 21:07:24
Wow, that is dickish-- considering they had already uploaded his *Transition* website.
Raine on 11/08/2012 21:07:24
Quote by TriSec:
Romney is even a prick with his own staff
BOSTON -- From the moment Mitt Romney stepped off stage Tuesday night, having just delivered a brief concession speech he wrote only that evening, the massive infrastructure surrounding his campaign quickly began to disassemble itself.
Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked.
"Fiscally conservative," sighed one aide the next day.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/08/2012 21:10:07
What, do we need to come up with a bunch of elephant-dick shaped pacifiers?
trojanrabbit on 11/08/2012 21:10:07
Quote by Mondobubba:
Neal Boortz had a twitter meltdown too.
What, do we need to come up with a bunch of elephant-dick shaped pacifiers?
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 21:13:49
Raine on 11/08/2012 21:13:49
TEA party is now the
Take Excrament Away party.
Take Excrament Away party.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 21:25:07
This is not unlike the comments you get from a 4-year old who've you caught red handed with a hand in the cookie jar. "No! It wasn't me! It was...Geoff!"
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 21:25:07
Quote by Raine:
Comeback from Errands to see this huge pile of Poop from Karl Rove.
They lie, they straight up lie.
This is not unlike the comments you get from a 4-year old who've you caught red handed with a hand in the cookie jar. "No! It wasn't me! It was...Geoff!"
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 21:25:46
Umm yes!
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 21:25:46
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by Mondobubba:
Neal Boortz had a twitter meltdown too.
What, do we need to come up with a bunch of elephant-dick shaped pacifiers?
Umm yes!
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 21:50:00
In the short term this in some of the best entertainment there has ever been.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 21:50:00
Quote by Raine:When does he finally retire once and for all? Herman Cain promises to be far more entertaining.Quote by Mondobubba:
Neal Boortz had a twitter meltdown too.
And one more thing... these people have all believed their own hype to the point where it is starting to look abusively incestuous. They are dangerous.
In the short term this in some of the best entertainment there has ever been.
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 21:57:02
Raine on 11/08/2012 21:57:02
I mention Romney's transition website... I just went back to take a look at it. Particularly this.
I took a screen shot of it:
I took a screen shot of it:
Comment by wickedpam on 11/08/2012 22:04:20
you know that should have said the Book of Latter Day Saints instead of Bible
wickedpam on 11/08/2012 22:04:20
Quote by Raine:
I mention Romney's transition website... I just went back to take a look at it. Particularly this.
I took a screen shot of it:
you know that should have said the Book of Latter Day Saints instead of Bible
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 22:04:36
Raine on 11/08/2012 22:04:36
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 22:11:36
Wow that is arrogant as hell. Wow, just wow.
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 22:11:36
Quote by Raine:
I mention Romney's transition website... I just went back to take a look at it. Particularly this.
I took a screen shot of it:
Wow that is arrogant as hell. Wow, just wow.
Comment by 
livingonli on 11/08/2012 22:26:35
livingonli on 11/08/2012 22:26:35
Hi, folks. Late start today (sort of) since the storm knocked down the line for the FiOS service last night so no TV or internet while I was home and only got online when I got to work today. Hopefully, the line will get reconnected tonight since I will need the network connection for the DirecTV install tomorrow.. It took me an hour to get home last night because the roads were all a slushy mess which contradicts the forecast that says the snow was only supposed to be inland and Long Island got 5 inches with only the East End staying warm enough to avoid any small accumulation.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 22:30:14
Old Pat is stripping his gears!
Mondobubba on 11/08/2012 22:30:14
Quote by Raine:
OMG. OMG. OMG.
Pat Robertson asks his (Female) Co-Host if she likes porn.
Old Pat is stripping his gears!
Comment by Raine on 11/08/2012 22:41:50
Why the hell would he want a private swearing in ceremony? Arrogant yes.
YES.
He had a website ready to go, fireworks etc -- what a prick. I am really glad he's gone.
Raine on 11/08/2012 22:41:50
Quote by Mondobubba:
Wow that is arrogant as hell. Wow, just wow.
Why the hell would he want a private swearing in ceremony? Arrogant yes.
YES.
A permit filed with the City of Boston said the detonation could occur any time between 7 p.m. Tuesday, just after the first polls closed, and 12:30 a.m. Wednesday, which ended up being just before Romney conceded the race.
Instead, Atlas Professional Fireworks Displays unloaded the pyrotechnics from mortars set up on a barge near the Bank of America Pavilion and carted them back to its headquarters in Jaffrey, N.H.
“It was not an intense, grand finale-type of display for eight minutes, but it certainly was a fast-paced show to cap off the evening, if it were necessary,â€
And after a last-minute campaign dash to Ohio and Pennsylvania, Romney told reporters aboard his campaign plane that he had tapped out a victory speech on his iPad. He even enumerated its word count: 1,118.
Nonetheless, Romney acknowledged he may have to draft the concession speech he ultimately delivered.
He had a website ready to go, fireworks etc -- what a prick. I am really glad he's gone.
Comment by 
clintster on 11/08/2012 23:00:37
Apparently, Boortz started this all when Herman Cain dared to congratulate the President on his re-election:
clintster on 11/08/2012 23:00:37
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:When does he finally retire once and for all? Herman Cain promises to be far more entertaining.Quote by Mondobubba:
Neal Boortz had a twitter meltdown too.
And one more thing... these people have all believed their own hype to the point where it is starting to look abusively incestuous. They are dangerous.
In the short term this in some of the best entertainment there has ever been.
Apparently, Boortz started this all when Herman Cain dared to congratulate the President on his re-election:
BOORTZ: I would like to congratulate Richard Speck. I would -- you know, I would like to congratulate Ted Bundy on sneaking into yet another sorority house and killing another coed. I would like to congratulate Adolf Hitler on his invasion of Poland. I would like to congratulate the -- Al Qaeda for their successful attack on New York City. I would like to congratulate the Ansar al-Sharia crowd over there in Benghazi for their successful assault on our consulate.
Congratulate Barack Obama? I'm sorry, Herman, love you but you can take that and stick in that phony damn cowboy hat of yours.
Comment by livingonli on 11/08/2012 23:37:55
livingonli on 11/08/2012 23:37:55
Anyone miss me while I was off line?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 11/09/2012 00:01:12
Will in Chicago on 11/09/2012 00:01:12
Here is another argument against austerity: it fuels the rise of extremists. Here is a story from Greece via the Jewish Telegraph Agency.
As Golden Dawn gains popularity, Greek Jews strategize on how to combat neo-Nazi party
By Gavin Rabinowitz · November 1, 2012
ATHENS, Greece (JTA) — For every Jew who lives in Greece, there are about 100 Greeks who voted for the country’s neo-Nazi party, Golden Dawn, last spring.
The party now controls 18 seats in Greece’s 300-member parliament, and its popularity is rising rapidly: A poll taken in October showed that if elections were held again today, Golden Dawn would capture 14 percent of the vote, making it Greece’s third-largest party. A September poll showed that 22 percent of Greeks have positive views of Golden Dawn, up from 12 percent in May.
With its swastika-like flag, gangs of black-shirted thugs attacking immigrants and its ideology of Greek racial superiority, Golden Dawn’s sudden and significant rise has prompted condemnations from around the world.
It also has put many of Greece’s 5,000 Jews on edge. Community leaders already have begun a campaign to educate Greeks about the dangers of allowing a neo-Nazi party to flourish, and Greek Jews are trying to figure out what more they can do to arrest Golden Dawn’s rise.
“We definitely think that a very basic tool to promoting social equality and combating the rise of extremists like Golden Dawn is educating schoolchildren,†said Zanet Battinou, director the Jewish Museum of Greece.
The museum and its programs teach visiting schoolchildren about Greece’s Jewish community, its heritage and, in particular, about the Holocaust, in which more than 80 percent of Greek Jews were murdered.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2012 03:22:59
I kinda thought you were out of power again. so, yes, Liv you were missed. 
Raine on 11/09/2012 03:22:59
Quote by livingonli:
Anyone miss me while I was off line?
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2012 03:24:06
oops, Trouble in Paradise?
Raine on 11/09/2012 03:24:06
Quote by clintster:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:When does he finally retire once and for all? Herman Cain promises to be far more entertaining.Quote by Mondobubba:
Neal Boortz had a twitter meltdown too.
And one more thing... these people have all believed their own hype to the point where it is starting to look abusively incestuous. They are dangerous.
In the short term this in some of the best entertainment there has ever been.
Apparently, Boortz started this all when Herman Cain dared to congratulate the President on his re-election:BOORTZ: I would like to congratulate Richard Speck. I would -- you know, I would like to congratulate Ted Bundy on sneaking into yet another sorority house and killing another coed. I would like to congratulate Adolf Hitler on his invasion of Poland. I would like to congratulate the -- Al Qaeda for their successful attack on New York City. I would like to congratulate the Ansar al-Sharia crowd over there in Benghazi for their successful assault on our consulate.
Congratulate Barack Obama? I'm sorry, Herman, love you but you can take that and stick in that phony damn cowboy hat of yours.