Obama's proposal, delivered by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to Republican House Speaker John Boehner, called for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenues over 10 years plus some $400 billion in savings in popular entitlement programs including Medicare, the government health care plan for seniors. It also included some relief for Americans hit by the home foreclosure crisis and an extension of both the payroll tax holiday and unemployment assistance.
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The offer landed with a thud on Capitol Hill, where Republicans bluntly rejected it and expressed shock that the president would essentially stick to the plan he trumpeted starting in September 2011 and all through the campaign. It includes tax increases on the richest Americans, something Republicans have publicly refused to approve.
"I remain hopeful that productive conversations can be had in the days ahead, but the White House has to get serious," Boehner told reporters. "This is not a game. Jobs are on the line. The American economy is on the line. And this is a moment for adult leadership."
Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) made headlines this week when suggested that his Republican colleagues should join with President Obama on a quick "fiscal cliff" fix by voting to extend the Bush tax-rates for everyone but the highest income earners, and leaving the rest of the debate for later.
Cole's plan, which was first reported by Politico, was rejected by House Speaker John Boehner, who told reporters, "I disagreed with him…This is not the right approach." But his comments have gotten a lot of attention, and both Republicans and (perhaps less surprisingly) Democrats have come forward to say they agree with Cole.
"I have to say that if you're going to sign me up with a camp, I like what Tom Cole has to say," California Republican Rep. Mary Bono Mack said on CNN on Thursday.
"I'm hopeful that he can persuade other Republicans to do the right thing for middle class families and small business across the country," Democratic Senator Patty Murray told reporters on Wednesday.
The GOP is right: This isn’t a serious proposal. But it’s not evidence that Obama isn’t serious. He’s very serious about not negotiating with himself, and his opening bid proves it. Now that they’ve leaked his initial offer, the next question is obvious: What’s their offer?
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The reason he has to foot the $1,400 bill: "It was an out-of-district water use," Poestenkill Supervisor Dominic Jocangelo tells NEWS10. He explains the town of Poestenkill established a water district restriction two years ago, and under the new rules residents outside the town have to pay for water use. Jocangelo says it is the first time they've charged.
He says he sent the bill to the homeowner and has not heard back, and that he's flexible about the amount, but that it's unfair to have taxpayers in Poestenkill foot the bill.
Thomas Martin, Fire Chief of Eagle Mills, calls the bill outrageous, saying it was easier for his crew to use Poestenkill's water, given the location of the house. He's never heard of any municipality charging and he thinks it's wrong.
Martin says in the town of Brunswick, where they are located, water is always free to use, no matter where they have take it. Martin says this is the first time he's ever heard of a bill such as this happening.
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still the insomnia?
The offer landed with a thud on Capitol Hill, where Republicans bluntly rejected it and expressed shock that the president would essentially stick to the plan he trumpeted starting in September 2011 and all through the campaign. It includes tax increases on the richest Americans, something Republicans have publicly refused to approve.
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Yes, I am a little cranky this morning.
still the insomnia?
No, the obtuse stupid, it burns! IT BURNS!
I slept like a log last night. Stayed up too late re-reading "The Hobbit" though.
Geithner's offer would delay the sequester -- automatic spending cuts to the Pentagon and social programs -- for a year, and effectively eliminates the congressional requirement to lift the debt ceiling in perpetuity. The offer included an extension of unemployment insurance, the payroll tax and even money to help homeowners modify mortgages and invest in infrastructure. "I think there was a leprechaun in there somewhere, too," quipped one GOP aide.
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I heard The Boner on NPR this morning blather about the debt ceiling; how if the debt ceiling is raised there should be off setting spending cuts. Um John the debt ceiling has nothing to do with spending. Wasn't this explained to you when you fucked up America's credit rating last year? Or are you just pandering to your nitwit base? Or both?
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I heard The Boner on NPR this morning blather about the debt ceiling; how if the debt ceiling is raised there should be off setting spending cuts. Um John the debt ceiling has nothing to do with spending. Wasn't this explained to you when you fucked up America's credit rating last year? Or are you just pandering to your nitwit base? Or both?
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Discuss.
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I heard The Boner on NPR this morning blather about the debt ceiling; how if the debt ceiling is raised there should be off setting spending cuts. Um John the debt ceiling has nothing to do with spending. Wasn't this explained to you when you fucked up America's credit rating last year? Or are you just pandering to your nitwit base? Or both?
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I heard The Boner on NPR this morning blather about the debt ceiling; how if the debt ceiling is raised there should be off setting spending cuts. Um John the debt ceiling has nothing to do with spending. Wasn't this explained to you when you fucked up America's credit rating last year? Or are you just pandering to your nitwit base? Or both?
My big issue with The Speaker link budget cuts and the debt ceiling (besides the stupidity of it) is that it further misinforms the American electorate. People need to understand the fundamentals of governance so they can participate in the political process in a meaningful way. The Boner is not doing this for deliberate partisan reasons.
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regarding the budget negotiation, the WP has a really good piece today:
Obama to GOP: I’m done negotiating with myselfThe GOP is right: This isn’t a serious proposal. But it’s not evidence that Obama isn’t serious. He’s very serious about not negotiating with himself, and his opening bid proves it. Now that they’ve leaked his initial offer, the next question is obvious: What’s their offer?
Maybe he should just say what's on his mind, that he won't negotiate with terrorists.
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Good day, folks. It is interesting checking out what's going on in the world by watching Al-Jazeera English (even more than BBC) since I get that channel now via FiOS.
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It should not take me 11 minutes to do a cold restart of my PC at work.
When I was working in the Medical side of Company P, that's how long it took for my PC to boot because it had to load encryption software and the usual corporate stuff like the anti-virus software of choice.
Now on the Lighting side, I don't have to worry about encryption and things are a bit faster.
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Good day, folks. It is interesting checking out what's going on in the world by watching Al-Jazeera English (even more than BBC) since I get that channel now via FiOS.
Speaking of TeeVee what is the pissing match between NBC and DTV all about.
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Good day, folks. It is interesting checking out what's going on in the world by watching Al-Jazeera English (even more than BBC) since I get that channel now via FiOS.
Speaking of TeeVee what is the pissing match between NBC and DTV all about.
I don't know if you saw my post late last night, but it's actually between the company that owns your local NBC affiliate not the network per se. Since it's not an issue with the New York affiliate which is an O & O. Most of these disputes are over the increased fees broadcasters want for carriage (remember those channels used to be free) and the extra pound of flesh they want from cable, satellite, and telco to carry those signals. Many of the providers obviously dealing with subscriber complaints about rate increases are trying to hold these backs and this is why this is now becoming common practice in the industry.
Obama's proposal, delivered by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to Republican House Speaker John Boehner, called for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenues over 10 years plus some $400 billion in savings in popular entitlement programs including Medicare, the government health care plan for seniors. It also included some relief for Americans hit by the home foreclosure crisis and an extension of both the payroll tax holiday and unemployment assistance.
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I swear, Sometimes watching CNN just makes my brain hurt. Don LEmon was asking WH house correspondent (jennifer yeller, I believe) about Budget talks. She said that the WH doesn't have a written proposal and that no one from the White House has met with GOP leaders.
REALLY.
Here is the Damn proposal, here is the White House Official who MET WITH GOP LEADERS!Now I would like to Bill CNN for the minimal research I just did. Keeristonabutterstck.Obama's proposal, delivered by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to Republican House Speaker John Boehner, called for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenues over 10 years plus some $400 billion in savings in popular entitlement programs including Medicare, the government health care plan for seniors. It also included some relief for Americans hit by the home foreclosure crisis and an extension of both the payroll tax holiday and unemployment assistance.
In the mean time-- there is NO proposal coming from the GOP -- unless you count the Ryan budget.
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The answer to CNN having an ombudsman is no. I would say Twitter bombing the crap out of her. With handles of other you tweet with regularly in the media. That might cause a crap storm to rain upon her to correct her half-assed reporting. I am serious. Go forth and make her life a misery for being a fuck-tard.
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The answer to CNN having an ombudsman is no. I would say Twitter bombing the crap out of her. With handles of other you tweet with regularly in the media. That might cause a crap storm to rain upon her to correct her half-assed reporting. I am serious. Go forth and make her life a misery for being a fuck-tard.
I'm in. Let's do this.