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Inauguration Day 2013 - from the ground
Author: BobR
Date: 01/23/2013 14:04:31
Sunday January 20th at noon, per the Constitution, President Barack Obama was sworn in for his second term. On Monday (coincidentally, the MLK Jr. holiday), the public swearing in and parade was done. We attended the first swearing in 4 years ago along with nearly 2 million of our closest friends. We made a special trip to DC for that. Here it is 4 years later, and we have been residents of the area for over 3 years. Attending the festivities should have been a breeze. We know the area, we know the shortcuts, we had the experience of what to expect. This time should have been easy.
Sadly, no.
In a combination of over-thinking it and the US Park Service blowing it, we were not as successful as last time. Four years ago, we got on the Metro at the end of the line in Vienna. We got in line before sunrise, and waited well over an hour just to get down to the platform. When we got on the train, it was packed (remember - this is the end of the line where the car starts out empty). At the next stop, only a few people could get on, and that repeated itself down the line. I felt bad for those standing shoulder-to-shoulder on the platforms watching as train after train pulled in with zero room for new people to get on. The trains moved slowly, but we got down to L'Enfant station with plenty of time to rendevous with our friends.
This time, we were determined to avoid Metro. Mala had told us VRE was a breeze, and there's a station only a couple miles from us, but they weren't running on Monday since it was MLK Day. We decided to take Amtrak instead. We would take the DASH bus from our neighborhood to the King St. station, then walk the 500 feet over to the Alexandria AmTrak/VRE station and take AmTrak in. It meant we wouldn't arrive in Union Station until 11:00, but that should have given us enough time. As we waited for the train we saw several Metro trains arriving at the King St. station, nearly empty, heading into the city.
However, with all the security fencing, we had to walk around the east and south side of the Capitol building. By the time we got to Independence Ave. on the south side of the Mall, the President had begun his address. We listened on our little transistor radio as we made our way west, looking for an access into the Mall. We were unsuccessful. At all of the access points, they were only letting people out, not in.
The Park Service - in it's infinite wisdom - had decided that the turnout would be 600K people, and only made room for that many. The rest of the Mall was closed off:
We continued down Independence, eventually circling around the west side of the Washington Monument and finding ourselves in an area north of the monument and south of Constitution Ave. Here there was a Jumbotron and speakers:
Keep in mind that the only was to actually get here was either via the route we took (if one had come in via the metro stations south of the mall), or by going around the north and west side of the White House on 19th St if arriving via the northern Metros. It was very inaccessible, whereas the mall area itself could have been and should have been easily accessed.
After the proceedings were done, we had hoped to get to the parade route on the south side, but - once again - the security was only letting people out. We had to go around the White House via the previously mentioned route north on 19th to K St., and then east. We ended up in a bar and watched the rest of the festivities while drinking and eating and meeting new friends.
All in all, I am still glad we did it. Nothing can beat that instant connection one gets when strangers gather for a common purpose. As we walked down Independence Ave. with the radio playing the President's address, we had people walk close to us so they could hear. We even had a few people take our picture.
On the other hand, the planners underestimated the turnout and overdid the security. There was no reason for that much of the Mall to be closed off. There was no reason to not allow people to traverse to the southern access of the parade route. There was no reason to route people that many blocks around the area. It surely put a damper on the moods of those who traveled here from far away, only to be met with a fence and a stern guard and nothing to shoe for it but a lot of aimless walking.
Will we go into the city for the 2016 inauguration? Maybe... it depends on who wins. I suspect whoever it is, it will be less crowded. Still - I will take the lessons learned of these two attempts into account before planning out our strategy.
Sadly, no.
In a combination of over-thinking it and the US Park Service blowing it, we were not as successful as last time. Four years ago, we got on the Metro at the end of the line in Vienna. We got in line before sunrise, and waited well over an hour just to get down to the platform. When we got on the train, it was packed (remember - this is the end of the line where the car starts out empty). At the next stop, only a few people could get on, and that repeated itself down the line. I felt bad for those standing shoulder-to-shoulder on the platforms watching as train after train pulled in with zero room for new people to get on. The trains moved slowly, but we got down to L'Enfant station with plenty of time to rendevous with our friends.
This time, we were determined to avoid Metro. Mala had told us VRE was a breeze, and there's a station only a couple miles from us, but they weren't running on Monday since it was MLK Day. We decided to take Amtrak instead. We would take the DASH bus from our neighborhood to the King St. station, then walk the 500 feet over to the Alexandria AmTrak/VRE station and take AmTrak in. It meant we wouldn't arrive in Union Station until 11:00, but that should have given us enough time. As we waited for the train we saw several Metro trains arriving at the King St. station, nearly empty, heading into the city.
However, with all the security fencing, we had to walk around the east and south side of the Capitol building. By the time we got to Independence Ave. on the south side of the Mall, the President had begun his address. We listened on our little transistor radio as we made our way west, looking for an access into the Mall. We were unsuccessful. At all of the access points, they were only letting people out, not in.
The Park Service - in it's infinite wisdom - had decided that the turnout would be 600K people, and only made room for that many. The rest of the Mall was closed off:
We continued down Independence, eventually circling around the west side of the Washington Monument and finding ourselves in an area north of the monument and south of Constitution Ave. Here there was a Jumbotron and speakers:
Keep in mind that the only was to actually get here was either via the route we took (if one had come in via the metro stations south of the mall), or by going around the north and west side of the White House on 19th St if arriving via the northern Metros. It was very inaccessible, whereas the mall area itself could have been and should have been easily accessed.
After the proceedings were done, we had hoped to get to the parade route on the south side, but - once again - the security was only letting people out. We had to go around the White House via the previously mentioned route north on 19th to K St., and then east. We ended up in a bar and watched the rest of the festivities while drinking and eating and meeting new friends.
All in all, I am still glad we did it. Nothing can beat that instant connection one gets when strangers gather for a common purpose. As we walked down Independence Ave. with the radio playing the President's address, we had people walk close to us so they could hear. We even had a few people take our picture.
On the other hand, the planners underestimated the turnout and overdid the security. There was no reason for that much of the Mall to be closed off. There was no reason to not allow people to traverse to the southern access of the parade route. There was no reason to route people that many blocks around the area. It surely put a damper on the moods of those who traveled here from far away, only to be met with a fence and a stern guard and nothing to shoe for it but a lot of aimless walking.
Will we go into the city for the 2016 inauguration? Maybe... it depends on who wins. I suspect whoever it is, it will be less crowded. Still - I will take the lessons learned of these two attempts into account before planning out our strategy.
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Comment by 
Raine on 01/23/2013 14:11:13
Good morning!
Raine on 01/23/2013 14:11:13
Good morning!
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 14:14:35
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 14:14:35
Crowd fail by the USPSP! :RMS Nice!
Comment by 
wickedpam on 01/23/2013 14:18:05
wickedpam on 01/23/2013 14:18:05
Morning 
Well that suck for VRE, they should have been running - the inauguration should have superseded the holiday
So was the bar only 2 more blocks away?
Well that suck for VRE, they should have been running - the inauguration should have superseded the holiday
So was the bar only 2 more blocks away?
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 14:22:20
it was only a few blocks from Gallery place. As day turned to night, I got to see a lot of people going to the ball. Pretty dresses and nicely washed up men. 
Raine on 01/23/2013 14:22:20
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning
Well that suck for VRE, they should have been running - the inauguration should have superseded the holiday
So was the bar only 2 more blocks away?
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 14:23:21
Raine on 01/23/2013 14:23:21
Comment by wickedpam on 01/23/2013 14:28:59
wickedpam on 01/23/2013 14:28:59
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 14:33:36
Raine on 01/23/2013 14:33:36
Comment by 
TriSec on 01/23/2013 14:35:02
TriSec on 01/23/2013 14:35:02
Morning, comrades.
Well, that kinda blows. A number of championship parades around here have been crowds of similar size, and with the Park Service at least tolerably handling 2m last time, you'd think they would be able to get this right.
Why have barriers at all? Isn't the mall wide open during 99% of the year? So what was the big deal?
Anyway....
(Heh, maybe the Army was looking for some group of rabble-rousers that jumped the fence last time....)
Well, that kinda blows. A number of championship parades around here have been crowds of similar size, and with the Park Service at least tolerably handling 2m last time, you'd think they would be able to get this right.
Why have barriers at all? Isn't the mall wide open during 99% of the year? So what was the big deal?
Anyway....
(Heh, maybe the Army was looking for some group of rabble-rousers that jumped the fence last time....)
Comment by wickedpam on 01/23/2013 14:43:43
I love how they describe it - salty and sweet with a hint of goat
wickedpam on 01/23/2013 14:43:43
Quote by Raine:Flambe Fondue!Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:
Here's a headline you don't see every day
Fondue
I love how they describe it - salty and sweet with a hint of goat
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 14:49:51
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 14:49:51
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 14:51:55
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 14:51:55
At about 5 am I woke up with a piercing sinus headache. I stumbled into the bathroom and took appropriate drugs. 
I didn't need that.
I didn't need that.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 14:56:02
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 14:56:02
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 15:00:39
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 15:00:39
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 15:07:53
Raine on 01/23/2013 15:07:53
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 15:09:33
Raine on 01/23/2013 15:09:33
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 15:11:15
Oh The Cooch! Whatta card! Wait, no he is serious isn't he?
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 15:11:15
Quote by Raine:AND, the Cooch compares himself to Dr. King.Quote by Mondobubba:
Wayne LaPierre thinks the 2nd ammendment is a gift from God.
Oh The Cooch! Whatta card! Wait, no he is serious isn't he?
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 15:12:00
Raine on 01/23/2013 15:12:00
I have to say, I just love when Hal sparks fills in for Stephanie.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 15:13:02
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 15:13:02
Dear Privileged White Men, do not invoke MLK's name when you are talking about limiting some group of American's rights. You are nothing like Dr. King, you just look like the giant fool you are.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 15:13:16
Yes, because taking away a woman's right to contraception is JUST like what Dr. King worked FOR.
Raine on 01/23/2013 15:13:16
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:AND, the Cooch compares himself to Dr. King.Quote by Mondobubba:
Wayne LaPierre thinks the 2nd ammendment is a gift from God.
Oh The Cooch! Whatta card! Wait, no he is serious isn't he?
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 15:22:12
... and the cruelest.
No more dying with dignity for the poorest among them.
Raine on 01/23/2013 15:22:12
Quote by Mondobubba:
Louisiana is becoming the dumbest state.
... and the cruelest.
No more dying with dignity for the poorest among them.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/23/2013 15:22:36
me too
He's more willing to take on the rw callers, love Steph but I don't think she likes confrontation much (which I can relate too)
wickedpam on 01/23/2013 15:22:36
Quote by Raine:
I have to say, I just love when Hal sparks fills in for Stephanie.
me too
He's more willing to take on the rw callers, love Steph but I don't think she likes confrontation much (which I can relate too)
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 15:24:05
See my comment below.
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 15:24:05
Quote by Raine:Yes, because taking away a woman's right to contraception is JUST like what Dr. King worked FOR.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:AND, the Cooch compares himself to Dr. King.Quote by Mondobubba:
Wayne LaPierre thinks the 2nd ammendment is a gift from God.
Oh The Cooch! Whatta card! Wait, no he is serious isn't he?
See my comment below.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 15:27:14
Raine on 01/23/2013 15:27:14
I forgot about that Bush eyeglass incident. he really was a dolt.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 15:30:47
We need a Godwin type rule for inappropriate mentions of Dr. King.
Raine on 01/23/2013 15:30:47
Quote by Mondobubba:
Dear Privileged White Men, do not invoke MLK's name when you are talking about limiting some group of American's rights. You are nothing like Dr. King, you just look like the giant fool you are.
Comment by TriSec on 01/23/2013 15:32:17
TriSec on 01/23/2013 15:32:17
So, I'm compiling a list of post-treatment issues for my doctor Friday.
I actually seem to be feeling worse since treatment finished, instead of better.
While the fatigue is finally receding, I've got a huge spike in Chemo-induced peripheral neuropathy now. This is most distressing, but also quite common as I've found in my research.
They did try to poison me for six months, after all...it's going to take quite some time to process all that and let my system recover.
I actually seem to be feeling worse since treatment finished, instead of better.
While the fatigue is finally receding, I've got a huge spike in Chemo-induced peripheral neuropathy now. This is most distressing, but also quite common as I've found in my research.
They did try to poison me for six months, after all...it's going to take quite some time to process all that and let my system recover.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 15:34:39
Raine on 01/23/2013 15:34:39
Quote by TriSec:
So, I'm compiling a list of post-treatment issues for my doctor Friday.
I actually seem to be feeling worse since treatment finished, instead of better.
While the fatigue is finally receding, I've got a huge spike in Chemo-induced peripheral neuropathy now. This is most distressing, but also quite common as I've found in my research.
They did try to poison me for six months, after all...it's going to take quite some time to process all that and let my system recover.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 15:37:38
Can someone please tell me how this is going to save money by having dying people in the ICU?
Raine on 01/23/2013 15:37:38
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
Louisiana is becoming the dumbest state.
... and the cruelest.
No more dying with dignity for the poorest among them.
Can someone please tell me how this is going to save money by having dying people in the ICU?
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 15:40:00
I think we should call it the Raine Rule. Your idea ya know.
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 15:40:00
Quote by Raine:We need a Godwin type rule for inappropriate mentions of Dr. King.Quote by Mondobubba:
Dear Privileged White Men, do not invoke MLK's name when you are talking about limiting some group of American's rights. You are nothing like Dr. King, you just look like the giant fool you are.
I think we should call it the Raine Rule. Your idea ya know.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 15:50:42
Raine on 01/23/2013 15:50:42
Well, I see Joihn McCain is being a raging asshole right now -- (benghazi hearing)
Comment by TriSec on 01/23/2013 15:54:00
Because now they can die alone in an alley in pain, instead of spending money on nurses and drugs.
TriSec on 01/23/2013 15:54:00
Quote by Raine:
Can someone please tell me how this is going to save money by having dying people in the ICU?
Because now they can die alone in an alley in pain, instead of spending money on nurses and drugs.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 15:54:20
"Old man shakes fist at cloud."
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 15:54:20
Quote by Raine:
Well, I see Joihn McCain is being a raging asshole right now -- (benghazi hearing)
"Old man shakes fist at cloud."
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 15:55:01
Raine on 01/23/2013 15:55:01
Yes, MCCain was an idiot. MEan bitter nasty twit.
Comment by TriSec on 01/23/2013 16:02:29
TriSec on 01/23/2013 16:02:29
Pilots have a mandatory retirement age - I"m sure some other high-risk industries must as well.
Perhaps the House and Senate should....there's a minimum age in the Constitution, why not a maximum?
I know, I know, elections are term limits. Pity it doesn't work that way.
(Just look at Mass - it took death and a presidential appointment to open up a couple of Senate seats...not that either senator was doing anything wrong or bad, but I'm just sayin'....)
Perhaps the House and Senate should....there's a minimum age in the Constitution, why not a maximum?
I know, I know, elections are term limits. Pity it doesn't work that way.
(Just look at Mass - it took death and a presidential appointment to open up a couple of Senate seats...not that either senator was doing anything wrong or bad, but I'm just sayin'....)
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 16:05:37
Raine on 01/23/2013 16:05:37
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 16:11:47
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 16:11:47
Ugh! Punny. Here's the Guardian headline on the cheese story: "Whey too hot: cheese fire closes Norwegian road tunnel"
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 16:11:55
Raine on 01/23/2013 16:11:55
Ok, this caller is an idiot. Seriously, what a dumb assnine point.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 16:15:27
Raine on 01/23/2013 16:15:27
And now Rand Paul is being a ass.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/23/2013 16:16:34
and that's different from any other day how?
wickedpam on 01/23/2013 16:16:34
Quote by Raine:
And now Rand Paul is being a ass.
and that's different from any other day how?
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 16:18:22
Mala, you have a point there. That is a typical day for the junior senator of Kentucky.
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 16:18:22
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
And now Rand Paul is being a ass.
and that's different from any other day how?
Mala, you have a point there. That is a typical day for the junior senator of Kentucky.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 16:19:14
follow the twitter feed I just posted.
He's reading/saying shit from RW blogs.
Raine on 01/23/2013 16:19:14
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
And now Rand Paul is being a ass.
and that's different from any other day how?
He's reading/saying shit from RW blogs.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 16:22:34
Raine on 01/23/2013 16:22:34
Rand Paul accuses #Hillary of a "failure of leadership" saying its best she is resigning #Benghazi
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 16:23:49
Raine on 01/23/2013 16:23:49
Sen Murphy (D-CT) joins Durbin in raising the Iraq war "fault under false pretenses. #benghazi
Comment by wickedpam on 01/23/2013 16:25:28
well that just made want to punch some people on Twitter
wickedpam on 01/23/2013 16:25:28
Quote by Raine:follow the twitter feed I just posted.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
And now Rand Paul is being a ass.
and that's different from any other day how?
He's reading/saying shit from RW blogs.
well that just made want to punch some people on Twitter
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 16:28:46
What a massively lazy tool.
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 16:28:46
Quote by Raine:follow the twitter feed I just posted.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
And now Rand Paul is being a ass.
and that's different from any other day how?
He's reading/saying shit from RW blogs.
What a massively lazy tool.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 16:29:31
What I do is filter it so it is the people I follow on twitter -- I don;t see the asshole teahatists. Much more pleasant.
Raine on 01/23/2013 16:29:31
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:follow the twitter feed I just posted.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
And now Rand Paul is being a ass.
and that's different from any other day how?
He's reading/saying shit from RW blogs.
well that just made want to punch some people on Twitter
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 16:30:40
Raine on 01/23/2013 16:30:40
Did Rand paul just fuck up, or lie?
Sen. Rand Paul asked #SecClinton if we're sending Libyian jihadi weapons to #Turkey [for Syrian jihadis]. She said not briefed. #Benghazi
Comment by wickedpam on 01/23/2013 16:32:48
but then I would only see you, Honey and Panthergirlgail
I really have to get back on twitter one of these days
wickedpam on 01/23/2013 16:32:48
Quote by Raine:What I do is filter it so it is the people I follow on twitter -- I don;t see the asshole teahatists. Much more pleasant.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:follow the twitter feed I just posted.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
And now Rand Paul is being a ass.
and that's different from any other day how?
He's reading/saying shit from RW blogs.
well that just made want to punch some people on Twitter
but then I would only see you, Honey and Panthergirlgail
I really have to get back on twitter one of these days
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 16:35:22
Both!
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 16:35:22
Quote by Raine:
Did Rand paul just fuck up, or lie?Sen. Rand Paul asked #SecClinton if we're sending Libyian jihadi weapons to #Turkey [for Syrian jihadis]. She said not briefed. #Benghazi
Both!
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 16:39:07
Raine on 01/23/2013 16:39:07
I believe the hearing is over....
I think she goes to the House now, this should be even better.
I think she goes to the House now, this should be even better.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 16:41:24
Raine on 01/23/2013 16:41:24
Here is what I am convinced of, if SoS Clinton wants to run for President, I can totally support that. She schooled those senators.
What a damn pony show that was.
What a damn pony show that was.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 16:42:30
I fully expect Darrell Issa to reveal classified information, again.
Raine on 01/23/2013 16:42:30
Quote by Raine:
I believe the hearing is over....
I think she goes to the House now, this should be even better.
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 16:43:26
Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 16:43:26
Good morning, bloggers.
Raine, thanks for a great blog. I mentioned it late last night, but I saw on Facebook that John aka Bounced Granola passed on Sunday. May his memory be for a blessing.
Great blog, and I think that the authorities should have prepared for a larger crowd.
I look forward later to hearing more of Secretary of State Clinton's testimony in Congress.
Raine, thanks for a great blog. I mentioned it late last night, but I saw on Facebook that John aka Bounced Granola passed on Sunday. May his memory be for a blessing.
Great blog, and I think that the authorities should have prepared for a larger crowd.
I look forward later to hearing more of Secretary of State Clinton's testimony in Congress.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 16:45:05
Raine on 01/23/2013 16:45:05
Oh, BTW, Rand paul said that this was the worst terrorist attack since 9/11....
FUCK him, Newtown was.
FUCK him, Newtown was.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/23/2013 16:50:19
you forget, they don't see domestic terrorism as really. If it happens here its just crime and video games are to blame
wickedpam on 01/23/2013 16:50:19
Quote by Raine:
Oh, BTW, Rand paul said that this was the worst terrorist attack since 9/11....
FUCK him, Newtown was.
you forget, they don't see domestic terrorism as really. If it happens here its just crime and video games are to blame
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 16:52:15
Yeah, you are right.
gun nutters terrify me. We are going to a gun control rally on Saturday.
Raine on 01/23/2013 16:52:15
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Oh, BTW, Rand paul said that this was the worst terrorist attack since 9/11....
FUCK him, Newtown was.
you forget, they don't see domestic terrorism as really. If it happens here its just crime and video games are to blame
gun nutters terrify me. We are going to a gun control rally on Saturday.
Comment by 
livingonli on 01/23/2013 16:53:07
livingonli on 01/23/2013 16:53:07
Good morning, folks. I'm off today and tomorrow but it's freezing like a MF out there so I'm probably only going out for food shopping and to pick up my laundry and otherwise I will probably just stay inside today.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 16:56:42
Rand Paul proves that he should not be in higher office in this nation by his lack of respect for the facts.
As for the GOP, I fear that all they have left to offer is fear itself.
Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 16:56:42
Quote by Raine:Yeah, you are right.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Oh, BTW, Rand paul said that this was the worst terrorist attack since 9/11....
FUCK him, Newtown was.
you forget, they don't see domestic terrorism as really. If it happens here its just crime and video games are to blame
gun nutters terrify me. We are going to a gun control rally on Saturday.
Rand Paul proves that he should not be in higher office in this nation by his lack of respect for the facts.
As for the GOP, I fear that all they have left to offer is fear itself.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/23/2013 16:57:08
be careful
you know I looked at the Dulles Expo Centers schedule for the year and it seems there is a gun show about every other month
wickedpam on 01/23/2013 16:57:08
Quote by Raine:Yeah, you are right.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Oh, BTW, Rand paul said that this was the worst terrorist attack since 9/11....
FUCK him, Newtown was.
you forget, they don't see domestic terrorism as really. If it happens here its just crime and video games are to blame
gun nutters terrify me. We are going to a gun control rally on Saturday.
be careful
you know I looked at the Dulles Expo Centers schedule for the year and it seems there is a gun show about every other month
Comment by 
BobR on 01/23/2013 16:57:25
*ahem* - you might want to check the author again...
BobR on 01/23/2013 16:57:25
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Good morning, bloggers.
Raine, thanks for a great blog. I mentioned it late last night, but I saw on Facebook that John aka Bounced Granola passed on Sunday. May his memory be for a blessing.
Great blog, and I think that the authorities should have prepared for a larger crowd.
I look forward later to hearing more of Secretary of State Clinton's testimony in Congress.
*ahem* - you might want to check the author again...
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 01/23/2013 17:02:43
You know, I'd have to say the Republicans deliberately crashing the country's credit rating has to be very high on the list. Economic terrorism.
trojanrabbit on 01/23/2013 17:02:43
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Oh, BTW, Rand paul said that this was the worst terrorist attack since 9/11....
FUCK him, Newtown was.
you forget, they don't see domestic terrorism as really. If it happens here its just crime and video games are to blame
You know, I'd have to say the Republicans deliberately crashing the country's credit rating has to be very high on the list. Economic terrorism.
Comment by livingonli on 01/23/2013 17:04:19
The GOP's total ignorance and dedication to such with total disregard for facts should disqualify them for any position of dog catcher and above.
livingonli on 01/23/2013 17:04:19
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Oh, BTW, Rand paul said that this was the worst terrorist attack since 9/11....
FUCK him, Newtown was.
you forget, they don't see domestic terrorism as really. If it happens here its just crime and video games are to blame
You know, I'd have to say the Republicans deliberately crashing the country's credit rating has to be very high on the list. Economic terrorism.
The GOP's total ignorance and dedication to such with total disregard for facts should disqualify them for any position of dog catcher and above.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 17:05:45
I'm not so worried. It's on the Mall.
I would like to see gun shows FAR better regulated.
Raine on 01/23/2013 17:05:45
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Yeah, you are right.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Oh, BTW, Rand paul said that this was the worst terrorist attack since 9/11....
FUCK him, Newtown was.
you forget, they don't see domestic terrorism as really. If it happens here its just crime and video games are to blame
gun nutters terrify me. We are going to a gun control rally on Saturday.
be careful
you know I looked at the Dulles Expo Centers schedule for the year and it seems there is a gun show about every other month
I would like to see gun shows FAR better regulated.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/23/2013 17:06:21
Well, at least the sun is out now. Yeah, I know you have to come home very late sometimes.
+8 this morning at 6AM. Fuck....
supposed to be +2 tomorrow morning....please start Mr. Honda.....rrRRRrrrr.......rrRRRrrrrrrr.r.r.r...r.....r........r
trojanrabbit on 01/23/2013 17:06:21
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. I'm off today and tomorrow but it's freezing like a MF out there so I'm probably only going out for food shopping and to pick up my laundry and otherwise I will probably just stay inside today.
Well, at least the sun is out now. Yeah, I know you have to come home very late sometimes.
+8 this morning at 6AM. Fuck....
supposed to be +2 tomorrow morning....please start Mr. Honda.....rrRRRrrrr.......rrRRRrrrrrrr.r.r.r...r.....r........r
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 17:08:04
Raine on 01/23/2013 17:08:04
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Oh, BTW, Rand paul said that this was the worst terrorist attack since 9/11....
FUCK him, Newtown was.
you forget, they don't see domestic terrorism as really. If it happens here its just crime and video games are to blame
You know, I'd have to say the Republicans deliberately crashing the country's credit rating has to be very high on the list. Economic terrorism.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 17:09:06
We woke up to +10 -- this is stupid cold.
Raine on 01/23/2013 17:09:06
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. I'm off today and tomorrow but it's freezing like a MF out there so I'm probably only going out for food shopping and to pick up my laundry and otherwise I will probably just stay inside today.
Well, at least the sun is out now. Yeah, I know you have to come home very late sometimes.
+8 this morning at 6AM. Fuck....
supposed to be +2 tomorrow morning....please start Mr. Honda.....rrRRRrrrr.......rrRRRrrrrrrr.r.r.r...r.....r........r
Comment by TriSec on 01/23/2013 17:10:17
TriSec on 01/23/2013 17:10:17
Aww, come on. Good Boy Scout weather! (And we are headed out this weekend.)
It was 11 in Waltham this morning, descending to 8 in lovely Downtown Worcester. Current reading from KORH is 9 degrees, with winds gusting to 19 knots out of the northwest. (Montreal Express!)
It was 11 in Waltham this morning, descending to 8 in lovely Downtown Worcester. Current reading from KORH is 9 degrees, with winds gusting to 19 knots out of the northwest. (Montreal Express!)
Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/23/2013 17:12:04
Fortunately I have a fallback in the Volvo. If it's that cold that the Honda won't start, Mrs. Rabbit won't be wanting to go anywhere anyway. Only reason she went out today was to bring her friend's computer to her while she's recuperating from a stroke. Pretty much her friend's left side is paralyzed.
trojanrabbit on 01/23/2013 17:12:04
Quote by Raine:We woke up to +10 -- this is stupid cold.Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by livingonli:
Good morning, folks. I'm off today and tomorrow but it's freezing like a MF out there so I'm probably only going out for food shopping and to pick up my laundry and otherwise I will probably just stay inside today.
Well, at least the sun is out now. Yeah, I know you have to come home very late sometimes.
+8 this morning at 6AM. Fuck....
supposed to be +2 tomorrow morning....please start Mr. Honda.....rrRRRrrrr.......rrRRRrrrrrrr.r.r.r...r.....r........r
Fortunately I have a fallback in the Volvo. If it's that cold that the Honda won't start, Mrs. Rabbit won't be wanting to go anywhere anyway. Only reason she went out today was to bring her friend's computer to her while she's recuperating from a stroke. Pretty much her friend's left side is paralyzed.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 17:19:07
This is the time of year when I say that you are a sick man.
BRRR. I do not like this cold. I believe we have reached the high of 25 degrees today. Blech.
Raine on 01/23/2013 17:19:07
Quote by TriSec:
Aww, come on. Good Boy Scout weather! (And we are headed out this weekend.)
It was 11 in Waltham this morning, descending to 8 in lovely Downtown Worcester. Current reading from KORH is 9 degrees, with winds gusting to 19 knots out of the northwest. (Montreal Express!)
BRRR. I do not like this cold. I believe we have reached the high of 25 degrees today. Blech.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/23/2013 17:19:12
The new environmental chamber sitting next to me will do -75C (-103F).
trojanrabbit on 01/23/2013 17:19:12
Quote by TriSec:
Aww, come on. Good Boy Scout weather! (And we are headed out this weekend.)
It was 11 in Waltham this morning, descending to 8 in lovely Downtown Worcester. Current reading from KORH is 9 degrees, with winds gusting to 19 knots out of the northwest. (Montreal Express!)
The new environmental chamber sitting next to me will do -75C (-103F).
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 17:19:47
Oh damn, Rabbit, I;m sorry.
Raine on 01/23/2013 17:19:47
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Fortunately I have a fallback in the Volvo. If it's that cold that the Honda won't start, Mrs. Rabbit won't be wanting to go anywhere anyway. Only reason she went out today was to bring her friend's computer to her while she's recuperating from a stroke. Pretty much her friend's left side is paralyzed.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 17:28:47
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 17:28:47
It's a balmy 53 degrees here. People are running around in woolens and whatnot acting like it is cold. I find this amusing.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/23/2013 17:29:59
This is stroke #2 for her. The first one seemed to mostly affect memory but she recovered quickly. I don't know what the expectations are this time.
trojanrabbit on 01/23/2013 17:29:59
Quote by Raine:Oh damn, Rabbit, I;m sorry.Quote by trojanrabbit:
Fortunately I have a fallback in the Volvo. If it's that cold that the Honda won't start, Mrs. Rabbit won't be wanting to go anywhere anyway. Only reason she went out today was to bring her friend's computer to her while she's recuperating from a stroke. Pretty much her friend's left side is paralyzed.
This is stroke #2 for her. The first one seemed to mostly affect memory but she recovered quickly. I don't know what the expectations are this time.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 17:31:41
Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 17:31:41
Well, the Israeli elections have not produced clear results. It will be a coalition government. Here is a story on how it could turn out .
Meanwhile, Haaretz has an editorial saying the following:
Who will be Israel's next prime minister?
Theoretically, the former TV journalist and Yesh Atid leader Yair Lapid could head a stable government, but all signs point to him forging a coalition government with Netanyahu at the helm.
By Jonathan Lis | Jan.23, 2013
Yair Lapid, the dark horse of Israel's 2013 election, on Tuesday night became the candidate most courted by both the right and left blocs. While Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is interested in making Lapid a major anchor in the broad government he is planning, the center bloc – and especially the Labor Party – has its eyes on Lapid as the next prime minister.
But the chances of a Prime Minister Lapid, as of now, are slim. On the eve of the election, Lapid made it clear that he does not see himself as a candidate for premier, and his electorate is largely based on rightist voters who wavered between him and Naftali Bennett. Lapid doesn't want to betray a significant chunk of those who voted for him, and entering a center-left government would dishonor those moderate declarations he made as the votes were starting to come in.
Moreover, in the center-left bloc they made it clear on Tuesday that it is by no means certain Lapid will have a majority among the factions when they make their recommendation for prime minister to the president. The Arab factions might want to abstain, or they could nominate another candidate of their own.
A more likely possibility is that Lapid will join an “equality of the burden†government headed by Netanyahu. In a government like that, which could also include Habayit Hayehudi, Tzipi Livni's Hatnuah and Kadima, there would be a stable majority of 69 Knesset members at the expense of the ultra-Orthodox factions.
Meanwhile, Haaretz has an editorial saying the following:
Netanyahu is a man of the past
The Knesset election did not end with a clear decision. Instead, a direction for the future, ahead of the next election, is emerging.
Haaretz Editorial | Jan.23, 2013 |
Israelis awaken this morning to a day of uncertainty. The voting is over, but the election is not. The soldiers’ votes, disqualified votes, the electoral threshold − all of these will still move the numbers this way or that. But to learn some lessons, no waiting is necessary.
Israel on Tuesday expressed no confidence in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. After four years at the country’s helm, together with his natural partner, MK Avigdor Lieberman, Netanyahu lost about a quarter of his strength despite − or perhaps because of − the merger with Lieberman. Netanyahu, Israelis said on Tuesday, has failed. He has failed in the political sphere, the foreign policy sphere and the socioeconomic sphere.
His failure is a failure of leadership, which will continue to cast a pall over us if he survives in power. Netanyahu plunged from Likud and Yisrael Beiteinu’s 42 MKs to about 30 because the Israeli public felt that his government had not understood the deeper significance of the protests of the summer of 2011.
The results show that the public balked at the right-wing radicalization of Likud, from the disavowal of the Bar-Ilan speech and the harmful goading of the international community in declaring the E-1 construction plan. The isolation into which Netanyahu and Lieberman led Israel worried the voters, who want good relations with the United States, under President Barack Obama, instead of more apartments in the settlements and threats of war on Iran.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 17:36:00
BobR, that is what I get for too much multitasking. Sorry to inform the blog about Bounced Granola. I will mention his name before the Mourner's Kaddish this Friday. I will let people on his Facebook page know.
Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 17:36:00
Quote by BobR:Quote by Will in Chicago:
Good morning, bloggers.
Raine, thanks for a great blog. I mentioned it late last night, but I saw on Facebook that John aka Bounced Granola passed on Sunday. May his memory be for a blessing.
Great blog, and I think that the authorities should have prepared for a larger crowd.
I look forward later to hearing more of Secretary of State Clinton's testimony in Congress.
*ahem* - you might want to check the author again...
BobR, that is what I get for too much multitasking. Sorry to inform the blog about Bounced Granola. I will mention his name before the Mourner's Kaddish this Friday. I will let people on his Facebook page know.
Comment by TriSec on 01/23/2013 17:46:45
Have I mentioned that I laugh at the weather? Bwaaahaaahaaaaa!
And blah, blah, blah, no bad weather, only bad clothing, etc.
There is an LL Bean at Tyson's Corner, you know...
TriSec on 01/23/2013 17:46:45
Quote by Raine:
This is the time of year when I say that you are a sick man.
Have I mentioned that I laugh at the weather? Bwaaahaaahaaaaa!
And blah, blah, blah, no bad weather, only bad clothing, etc.
There is an LL Bean at Tyson's Corner, you know...
Comment by 
clintster on 01/23/2013 18:10:59
Can you send me a catalog? It's a... bit of a drive and I need a jacket with a zipper that works.
clintster on 01/23/2013 18:10:59
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
This is the time of year when I say that you are a sick man.
Have I mentioned that I laugh at the weather? Bwaaahaaahaaaaa!
And blah, blah, blah, no bad weather, only bad clothing, etc.
There is an LL Bean at Tyson's Corner, you know...
Can you send me a catalog? It's a... bit of a drive and I need a jacket with a zipper that works.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 18:11:42
See, that I understand. 53 degrees is cool, not cold.
As far as LL bean, I understand, however, no way in hell am I going to tysons corners; plus, I would rather just stay inside -- if there is snow, you all know I am prepped to go out, no snow? I stay inside.
Raine on 01/23/2013 18:11:42
Quote by Mondobubba:
It's a balmy 53 degrees here. People are running around in woolens and whatnot acting like it is cold. I find this amusing.
As far as LL bean, I understand, however, no way in hell am I going to tysons corners; plus, I would rather just stay inside -- if there is snow, you all know I am prepped to go out, no snow? I stay inside.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 18:12:43
YOu have some seriously crazy weather going on down there. ***brrrr***
Raine on 01/23/2013 18:12:43
Quote by clintster:
Can you send me a catalog? It's a... bit of a drive and I need a jacket with a zipper that works.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/23/2013 18:12:46
you have to admit that Tysons LL Bean store is pretty cool
wickedpam on 01/23/2013 18:12:46
Quote by Raine:See, that I understand. 53 degrees is cool, not cold.Quote by Mondobubba:
It's a balmy 53 degrees here. People are running around in woolens and whatnot acting like it is cold. I find this amusing.
As far as LL bean, I understand, however, no way in hell am I going to tysons corners; plus, I would rather just stay inside -- if there is snow, you all know I am prepped to go out, no snow? I stay inside.
you have to admit that Tysons LL Bean store is pretty cool
Comment by TriSec on 01/23/2013 18:17:09
Clint, what are you in the market for? A lot of our stuff has two-way zippers on it, which a lot of people hate.
Try here to start - Men's Outerwear
(Psst - this is my area. You are dealing with a professional.)
TriSec on 01/23/2013 18:17:09
Quote by clintster:
Can you send me a catalog? It's a... bit of a drive and I need a jacket with a zipper that works.
Clint, what are you in the market for? A lot of our stuff has two-way zippers on it, which a lot of people hate.
Try here to start - Men's Outerwear
(Psst - this is my area. You are dealing with a professional.)
Comment by clintster on 01/23/2013 18:18:05
Yepper. Got down to 13 night before last, and it's a balmy 27 right now. Believe me though, I like winter to feel like, y'know, winter. Getting snowed in kinda sucks. I can handle it though, as long as I have a generator, a passel of candles, and a charged iPad/pile of books.
clintster on 01/23/2013 18:18:05
Quote by Raine:YOu have some seriously crazy weather going on down there. ***brrrr***Quote by clintster:
Can you send me a catalog? It's a... bit of a drive and I need a jacket with a zipper that works.
Yepper. Got down to 13 night before last, and it's a balmy 27 right now. Believe me though, I like winter to feel like, y'know, winter. Getting snowed in kinda sucks. I can handle it though, as long as I have a generator, a passel of candles, and a charged iPad/pile of books.
Comment by clintster on 01/23/2013 18:29:11
I'm looking for something that is not too expensive, that I can stay warm in while not looking like George Costanza in his GoreTex jacket. Something kinda like the Town and Field Down Jacket.
clintster on 01/23/2013 18:29:11
Quote by TriSec:Quote by clintster:
Can you send me a catalog? It's a... bit of a drive and I need a jacket with a zipper that works.
Clint, what are you in the market for? A lot of our stuff has two-way zippers on it, which a lot of people hate.
Try here to start - Men's Outerwear
(Psst - this is my area. You are dealing with a professional.)
I'm looking for something that is not too expensive, that I can stay warm in while not looking like George Costanza in his GoreTex jacket. Something kinda like the Town and Field Down Jacket.
Comment by TriSec on 01/23/2013 18:43:22
Well, there's two product paths..."Wet and Cold" and "Dry and Cold".
Down is just fine in the "Dry and Cold" situation, but it sucks in the rain.
Have you considered a 3-in-1 jacket? (You've seen the bright blue one on the Weather Channel.)
That said, I have a Warm-Up Parka that I wear as my "Winter Wet", and I also have a Rugged Ridge (my winter camp and snowstorm jacket.)
I don't like down...my "Winter Dry" is a non-Bean, shearling lined, leather "A-4" flight jacket.
TriSec on 01/23/2013 18:43:22
Quote by clintster:
I'm looking for something that is not too expensive, that I can stay warm in while not looking like George Costanza in his GoreTex jacket. Something kinda like the Town and Field Down Jacket.
Well, there's two product paths..."Wet and Cold" and "Dry and Cold".
Down is just fine in the "Dry and Cold" situation, but it sucks in the rain.
Have you considered a 3-in-1 jacket? (You've seen the bright blue one on the Weather Channel.)
That said, I have a Warm-Up Parka that I wear as my "Winter Wet", and I also have a Rugged Ridge (my winter camp and snowstorm jacket.)
I don't like down...my "Winter Dry" is a non-Bean, shearling lined, leather "A-4" flight jacket.
Comment by livingonli on 01/23/2013 18:45:03
livingonli on 01/23/2013 18:45:03
It's 19 degrees here. It hasn't been this cold here for at least 2 years.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 01/23/2013 18:50:15
Scoopster on 01/23/2013 18:50:15
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 19:11:12
Raine on 01/23/2013 19:11:12
Comment by wickedpam on 01/23/2013 20:03:33
this is gonna stir up the crazies on the TOP FB
wickedpam on 01/23/2013 20:03:33
Quote by Raine:
You know, it takes a lot to get banned from a city.
this is gonna stir up the crazies on the TOP FB
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 20:09:29
Idiots. Tree climbing is not an act of free speech.
It's protest.
And if ya wanna protest with such a provocative style, expect to get arrested.
Ask MLK. (see what I did there? I violated my own rule!
)
Raine on 01/23/2013 20:09:29
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
You know, it takes a lot to get banned from a city.
this is gonna stir up the crazies on the TOP FB
It's protest.
And if ya wanna protest with such a provocative style, expect to get arrested.
Ask MLK. (see what I did there? I violated my own rule!
)
Comment by wickedpam on 01/23/2013 20:10:56
wickedpam on 01/23/2013 20:10:56
Quote by Raine:Idiots. Tree climbing is not an act of free speech.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
You know, it takes a lot to get banned from a city.
this is gonna stir up the crazies on the TOP FB
It's protest.
And if ya wanna protest with such a provocative style, expect to get arrested.
Ask MLK. (see what I did there? I violated my own rule!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 20:18:48
Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 20:18:48
Well, I am trying to do a good deed today. My friend Laura is a dentist, and one of her hygienists found a female dog who seems to be about four months old. It looks like a husky or husky mix to me. I am asking around to a few people locally to see if anyone is interested in this girl.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 20:22:29
Raine on 01/23/2013 20:22:29
Leon Pannatta has announced that Women will be allowed in combat roles on the front lines.
Now they need to make sure that Same sex couples have equal death benefits.
Now they need to make sure that Same sex couples have equal death benefits.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 20:23:34
What a pretty husky baby.
She'll find a home.
Raine on 01/23/2013 20:23:34
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Well, I am trying to do a good deed today. My friend Laura is a dentist, and one of her hygienists found a female dog who seems to be about four months old. It looks like a husky or husky mix to me. I am asking around to a few people locally to see if anyone is interested in this girl.
She'll find a home.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 20:28:21
I texted several friends locally, so I will see if I can help get this girl a home. If I was in my own place with a good job, this pup would be my pup.
Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 20:28:21
Quote by Raine:What a pretty husky baby.Quote by Will in Chicago:
Well, I am trying to do a good deed today. My friend Laura is a dentist, and one of her hygienists found a female dog who seems to be about four months old. It looks like a husky or husky mix to me. I am asking around to a few people locally to see if anyone is interested in this girl.
She'll find a home.
I texted several friends locally, so I will see if I can help get this girl a home. If I was in my own place with a good job, this pup would be my pup.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 20:28:29
Raine on 01/23/2013 20:28:29
Can I put the word out there as well, Will? She's a pretty girl.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 20:35:29
Sure. My friend Laura is in Northwest Indiana as his her hygienist. We are trying to find her a home as soon as possible. I am not sure how long the hygienist can keep the dog.
Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 20:35:29
Quote by Raine:
Can I put the word out there as well, Will? She's a pretty girl.
Sure. My friend Laura is in Northwest Indiana as his her hygienist. We are trying to find her a home as soon as possible. I am not sure how long the hygienist can keep the dog.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 20:45:26
Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 20:45:26
Raine, I sent you a PM on Facebook.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 21:13:43
Raine on 01/23/2013 21:13:43
Wait -- seriously, one of the 2 shooters in Texas actually shot himself? 
Comment by TriSec on 01/23/2013 21:27:31
Hmm, I thought I just found a new track of his circling out on YouTube. I wasn't impressed.
TriSec on 01/23/2013 21:27:31
Quote by Raine:TRISEC!
You need to know this, the purple one is back.
Hmm, I thought I just found a new track of his circling out on YouTube. I wasn't impressed.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 21:37:59
Ya know Prince owes my brother 25 bucks for weed. True!
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 21:37:59
Quote by Raine:TRISEC!
You need to know this, the purple one is back.
Ya know Prince owes my brother 25 bucks for weed. True!
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 21:40:58
Joan Walsh Salon, article on Sec. Clinton. Sub headline: "From simpleton Ron Johnson to delusional Rand Paul, GOP senators swung at the Secretary of State and hit themselves"
Mondobubba on 01/23/2013 21:40:58
Joan Walsh Salon, article on Sec. Clinton. Sub headline: "From simpleton Ron Johnson to delusional Rand Paul, GOP senators swung at the Secretary of State and hit themselves"
Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 21:46:32
Will in Chicago on 01/23/2013 21:46:32
Did Wayne LaPierre or someone cast a troll summoning spell? Thom Hartmann has a caller who is taking such leaps of logic that he seems to have taken that One Step Beyond the Outer Limits of the Twilight Zone.
Comment by clintster on 01/23/2013 22:01:12
As I was just discussing a while ago, it seems like the NRA, GOP, FOX, Limbaugh, etc are falling into their own traps as they try to make the President look bad. They are their own Wile E. Coyote.
clintster on 01/23/2013 22:01:12
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Did Wayne LaPierre or someone cast a troll summoning spell? Thom Hartmann has a caller who is taking such leaps of logic that he seems to have taken that One Step Beyond the Outer Limits of the Twilight Zone.
As I was just discussing a while ago, it seems like the NRA, GOP, FOX, Limbaugh, etc are falling into their own traps as they try to make the President look bad. They are their own Wile E. Coyote.
Comment by Raine on 01/23/2013 22:07:36
they are heretofore proving our points.
Raine on 01/23/2013 22:07:36
Quote by clintster:Quote by Will in Chicago:
Did Wayne LaPierre or someone cast a troll summoning spell? Thom Hartmann has a caller who is taking such leaps of logic that he seems to have taken that One Step Beyond the Outer Limits of the Twilight Zone.
As I was just discussing a while ago, it seems like the NRA, GOP, FOX, Limbaugh, etc are falling into their own traps as they try to make the President look bad. They are their own Wile E. Coyote.