-
It's that time of year again - our ISP is asking for money. If you have some spare change, please click the Donate link... Thanks!
- About Us
- Search
- Need Help?
- Donate
- Login/Register
Latest Entries
Actions Menu
Blog Roll
- 4F Facebook Page
- Turn Up The Night with Kenny Pick
- Stephanie Miller Show
- The Tim Corrimal Show
- The Rachel Maddow Show
- Angry Americans with Paul Rieckhoff
- Thom Hartmann Program
- Turnips! Fans of Turn Up the Night Facebook Page
- Snopes.com
- Factcheck.org
- Official White House Page, if you must.
- The Brad Blog / Green News Report
- The Poorly Written Political Blog (Joe Santorsa)
About Last Night.
Author: Raine
Date: 04/17/2008 12:40:58
I must say I am rather disgusted. As was mentioned last night, on our live blog, they were discussing the spin instead of the issues. I feel like ABC let everyone down, Both Clinton and Obama supporters alike.
This was not a debate, it was a hit job, by a corporate controlled news outlet. We have precious little time before the Pennsylvania Primary, and instead of the moderators asking questions about issues, we got a 20 minute discussion on a flag pin. (52 minutes altogether on the alleged Obama controversies) These are non issues, and it is an insult to the American intelligence for these 2 men to be asking such questions.
Here are the issues:
The Economy...
The War...
Health Care...
Housing...
4 dollars a gallon gas...
Social Security...
Education...
Job Security...
Federal Budget...
National Security...
Putting food on the table....
The Economy....
The Economy....
The Economy....
Instead of issues, last nite, we got Agenda:
Flag Pins, Shady neighbors, the Weather underground, Reverends, Bitterness.
Well, now I'm bitter. VERY bitter. Last Night instead of attempting to give us a dignified debate, ABC chose to fan the flames of controversy. Instead of letting these two candidates DEBATE, they turned it into an episode of Jerry Springer. They did an injustice to the American people. From Tom Shayles column in the Washington Post:
Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos are not news men, they are corporate shills working for the same company that brought *The Path to 9/11* Remember that hit job? Come to think of it... Let me add one more thing to that list of issues...
Get rid of for-profit debates.
Last night was a debacle. ABC News is dead to me.
Here is contact Information to ABC (thanks ShelaghC !)
ABC News Feedback page
Phone and email contact via FAIR:
ABC News
77 W. 66 St., New York, NY 10023
Phone: 212-456-7777 UPDATE: USE THIS NUMBER (818) 460-7477
General e-mail: [email protected]
ABC Media Relations via ABC MediaNet:
ABC Media Relations:
Natalie Raabe
(212) 456-2418
Charles Gibson's bio at ABC - with commenting avalable.
Gibson's official facebook page - you must be a member to post on a Facebook wall.
:peace: and
Raine
This was not a debate, it was a hit job, by a corporate controlled news outlet. We have precious little time before the Pennsylvania Primary, and instead of the moderators asking questions about issues, we got a 20 minute discussion on a flag pin. (52 minutes altogether on the alleged Obama controversies) These are non issues, and it is an insult to the American intelligence for these 2 men to be asking such questions.
The Economy...
The War...
Health Care...
Housing...
4 dollars a gallon gas...
Social Security...
Education...
Job Security...
Federal Budget...
National Security...
Putting food on the table....
The Economy....
The Economy....
The Economy....
Instead of issues, last nite, we got Agenda:
Flag Pins, Shady neighbors, the Weather underground, Reverends, Bitterness.
Well, now I'm bitter. VERY bitter. Last Night instead of attempting to give us a dignified debate, ABC chose to fan the flames of controversy. Instead of letting these two candidates DEBATE, they turned it into an episode of Jerry Springer. They did an injustice to the American people. From Tom Shayles column in the Washington Post:
To this observer, ABC's coverage seemed slanted against Obama. The director cut several times to reaction shots of such Clinton supporters as her daughter, Chelsea, who sat in the audience at the Kimmel Theater in Philly's National Constitution Center. Obama supporters did not get equal screen time, giving the impression that there weren't any in the hall. The director also clumsily chose to pan the audience at the very start of the debate, when the candidates made their opening statements, so Obama and Clinton were barely seen before the first commercial break.
At the end, Gibson pompously thanked the candidates -- or was he really patting himself on the back? -- for "what I think has been a fascinating debate." He's entitled to his opinion, but the most fascinating aspect was waiting to see how low he and Stephanopoulos would go, and then being appalled at the answer.
Get rid of for-profit debates.
Last night was a debacle. ABC News is dead to me.
Here is contact Information to ABC (thanks ShelaghC !)
ABC News Feedback page
Phone and email contact via FAIR:
ABC News
77 W. 66 St., New York, NY 10023
Phone: 212-456-7777 UPDATE: USE THIS NUMBER (818) 460-7477
General e-mail: [email protected]
ABC Media Relations via ABC MediaNet:
ABC Media Relations:
Natalie Raabe
(212) 456-2418
Charles Gibson's bio at ABC - with commenting avalable.
Gibson's official facebook page - you must be a member to post on a Facebook wall.
:peace: and
Raine
Comments:
Order comments Newest to Oldest Refresh Comments
Comment by 
BobR on 04/17/2008 12:54:01
BobR on 04/17/2008 12:54:01
What a waste of airtime that debate was. It probably helped McSame more than anyone.
btw - new poll shows McCain winning over Democrats.
Yes - it's time for this ugly primary to come to an end...
btw - new poll shows McCain winning over Democrats.
Yes - it's time for this ugly primary to come to an end...
Comment by 
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:07:00
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:07:00
Thanks for that little bit of sunshine Bobber.
You know, it occurs to me after watching that Debate last night, the Movie, Idiocracy was off buy a few hundred years... we are there now.
You know, it occurs to me after watching that Debate last night, the Movie, Idiocracy was off buy a few hundred years... we are there now.
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 04/17/2008 13:08:38
Will in Chicago on 04/17/2008 13:08:38
FIRST!!
Good morning, bloggers!!
I am an Obama supporter, but even if I was not, I would find 52 minutes on flag pins, neighbors, and clergy to be obsessive. (Perhaps Obama should mention the Family L See this story from last year from Mother Jones and Hillary's Nasty Pastorate from the Nation.
I want to hear questions about the issues that matter to me. Instead, some of the questioning last night brought to mind the words of Samuel Johnson: Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.
The early draft of the UNN Daily Headlines is up - with a lot of stories and commentaries on last night's ..... debacle. (I suppose we should be glad that one of the questions was not, "Senator Obama, have you stopped beating your wife yet?")
Good morning, bloggers!!
I am an Obama supporter, but even if I was not, I would find 52 minutes on flag pins, neighbors, and clergy to be obsessive. (Perhaps Obama should mention the Family L See this story from last year from Mother Jones and Hillary's Nasty Pastorate from the Nation.
I want to hear questions about the issues that matter to me. Instead, some of the questioning last night brought to mind the words of Samuel Johnson: Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.
The early draft of the UNN Daily Headlines is up - with a lot of stories and commentaries on last night's ..... debacle. (I suppose we should be glad that one of the questions was not, "Senator Obama, have you stopped beating your wife yet?")
Comment by 
shelaghc on 04/17/2008 13:10:03
shelaghc on 04/17/2008 13:10:03
ABC News Feedback page
Phone and email contact via FAIR:
ABC News
77 W. 66 St., New York, NY 10023
Phone: 212-456-7777
General e-mail: [email protected]
ABC Media Relations via ABC MediaNet:
ABC Media Relations:
Natalie Raabe
(212) 456-2418
Charles Gibson's bio at ABC - with commenting avalable.
Gibson's official facebook page - you must be a member to post on a Facebook wall.
Phone and email contact via FAIR:
ABC News
77 W. 66 St., New York, NY 10023
Phone: 212-456-7777
General e-mail: [email protected]
ABC Media Relations via ABC MediaNet:
ABC Media Relations:
Natalie Raabe
(212) 456-2418
Charles Gibson's bio at ABC - with commenting avalable.
Gibson's official facebook page - you must be a member to post on a Facebook wall.
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 13:10:07
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:10:07
Did Momma watch the debate last night?
Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/17/2008 13:11:26
Will in Chicago on 04/17/2008 13:11:26
Okay, THIRD! Long response.
I will be popping in and out while working on a few things. I am surprised to be at home, but I do get to play phone tag in a little bit.
I will be popping in and out while working on a few things. I am surprised to be at home, but I do get to play phone tag in a little bit.
Comment by connor on 04/17/2008 13:13:54
I spit on Charlie Gibson!
Comment by connor on 04/17/2008 13:14:20
He's baaaaack!
He's baaaaack!
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 13:14:38
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:14:38
Hey connor baby!!!! :::: hug ::::
Comment by connor on 04/17/2008 13:15:39
Love ya! getting ready for the office and wanted to check in!
Quote by Raine:
Hey connor baby!!!! :::: hug ::::
Love ya! getting ready for the office and wanted to check in!
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 13:15:52
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:15:52
Wow that Flush is a lot longer than I thought!!!
Comment by connor on 04/17/2008 13:17:25
The audios ROCK!!!
Quote by Raine:
Wow that Flush is a lot longer than I thought!!!
The audios ROCK!!!
Comment by shelaghc on 04/17/2008 13:21:13
shelaghc on 04/17/2008 13:21:13
Raine, if you like, you can add all those links and addresses to the blog post.
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 13:22:04
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:22:04
An Afro-Leninist?!?! WTF?!?!?
Comment by 
starling310 on 04/17/2008 13:24:21
starling310 on 04/17/2008 13:24:21
RAINE! 
morning all.
morning all.
Comment by BobR on 04/17/2008 13:27:06
Thanks for that. Here's what I sent them:
BobR on 04/17/2008 13:27:06
Quote by shelaghc:
ABC News Feedback page
Phone and email contact via FAIR:
ABC News
77 W. 66 St., New York, NY 10023
Phone: 212-456-7777
General e-mail: [email protected]
ABC Media Relations via ABC MediaNet:
ABC Media Relations:
Natalie Raabe
(212) 456-2418
Charles Gibson's bio at ABC - with commenting avalable.
Gibson's official facebook page - you must be a member to post on a Facebook wall.
Thanks for that. Here's what I sent them:
That wasn't a debate last night, it was a debacle. With one of the most important elections in our lifetime approaching, and *important* issues facing every American (such as the economy, the war in Iraq, Corporatism, etc.), close to 3/4 of the time was spent on non-issues like reverends, flag pins, Bosnia tales, and the "bitter" comments.
We deserved better. We *needed* better.
Shame.
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 13:28:47
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:28:47
This was how the debate went last night...
Comment by starling310 on 04/17/2008 13:28:50
starling310 on 04/17/2008 13:28:50
Donnie Donnie Donnie. . . does reverend wright, or a lapel pin put food on your table, and cheap gas in your car. DOUCHEBAG.
Comment by right wing hater on 04/17/2008 13:30:18
That was exactly why when you refer to the media....as 'mainstream media' you're playing into the hands of the corporatocracy....
They aren't 'mainstream'....they are the CM, CORPORATE MEDIA. 5 companies that do nothing but wax poetic about the evil driven machinations of the uber wealthy ruling class and castigate those who would dare oppose the wealthy aristocracy and and endlessly broadcast their propaganda. They do this to further the wealth gap and create a permanent 'me society' or as Busheviks/'free marketists' refer to it an 'ownership society'....
That's very amusing coming from the man who has displayed no talent other than running his pyramid scheme corporations into bankruptcy and abrogation.
They aren't 'mainstream'....they are the CM, CORPORATE MEDIA. 5 companies that do nothing but wax poetic about the evil driven machinations of the uber wealthy ruling class and castigate those who would dare oppose the wealthy aristocracy and and endlessly broadcast their propaganda. They do this to further the wealth gap and create a permanent 'me society' or as Busheviks/'free marketists' refer to it an 'ownership society'....
That's very amusing coming from the man who has displayed no talent other than running his pyramid scheme corporations into bankruptcy and abrogation.
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 13:33:10
we have so many of them I can't keep track anymore...
I know I still have to do an audicon blog... I promiseed, and I will keep that promise.
Connor, When Wicked Pam gets in she is going to faint at the sight of your name!
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:33:10
Quote by connor:Quote by Raine:
Wow that Flush is a lot longer than I thought!!!
The audios ROCK!!!
I know I still have to do an audicon blog... I promiseed, and I will keep that promise.
Connor, When Wicked Pam gets in she is going to faint at the sight of your name!
Comment by 
jd_in_ny on 04/17/2008 13:36:56
g'morning!
I was in the car and couldn't post here, but seriously wtf -- though it is fun to say out loud afro-leninist afro-leninist afro-leninist
jd_in_ny on 04/17/2008 13:36:56
Quote by Raine:
An Afro-Leninist?!?! WTF?!?!?
g'morning!
I was in the car and couldn't post here, but seriously wtf -- though it is fun to say out loud afro-leninist afro-leninist afro-leninist
Comment by starling310 on 04/17/2008 13:41:24
starling310 on 04/17/2008 13:41:24
So, according to the Corporate Media's logic:
My paternal grandfather was a pedophile...I guess that makes me a pedophile.
My brother was an alcoholic...I guess that makes me an alcoholic.
F*ckers!
disclaimer: had i known about my grandfather before he died, i would have talked to him even less than i already did.
further disclaimer...i wouldn't have talked to him at all, and probably would have turned him in. . .don't want to go into the family history in full. Hopefully you get my point!
My paternal grandfather was a pedophile...I guess that makes me a pedophile.
My brother was an alcoholic...I guess that makes me an alcoholic.
F*ckers!
disclaimer: had i known about my grandfather before he died, i would have talked to him even less than i already did.
further disclaimer...i wouldn't have talked to him at all, and probably would have turned him in. . .don't want to go into the family history in full. Hopefully you get my point!
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 13:44:11
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:44:11
Gotta say I disagree with 
there.
F*ck the need for ratings. Seriously.
All debates should be on C-span and pbs from now on. No corporate sponsors, PERIOD.
there. F*ck the need for ratings. Seriously.
All debates should be on C-span and pbs from now on. No corporate sponsors, PERIOD.
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 13:44:50
Good morning RWH! 
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:44:50
Quote by right wing hater:
That was exactly why when you refer to the media....as 'mainstream media' you're playing into the hands of the corporatocracy....
They aren't 'mainstream'....they are the CM, CORPORATE MEDIA. 5 companies that do nothing but wax poetic about the evil driven machinations of the uber wealthy ruling class and castigate those who would dare oppose the wealthy aristocracy and and endlessly broadcast their propaganda. They do this to further the wealth gap and create a permanent 'me society' or as Busheviks/'free marketists' refer to it an 'ownership society'....
That's very amusing coming from the man who has displayed no talent other than running his pyramid scheme corporations into bankruptcy and abrogation.
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 13:45:37
Hmmm that is not a bad Idea at all...
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:45:37
Quote by shelaghc:
Raine, if you like, you can add all those links and addresses to the blog post.
Hmmm that is not a bad Idea at all...
Comment by right wing hater on 04/17/2008 13:45:54
Good morning Raine & Bob & Everyone!
Daily Reading has been posted to News of the Day in Forum
Oh Raine....Laina & I haven't watched ABC, CBS, or NBC in years...
We only put CNN on when they have a 'debate'....and then we usually turn it off...
KO & MSNBC...the only place you can find good old fashioned journalism...
Daily Reading has been posted to News of the Day in Forum
Oh Raine....Laina & I haven't watched ABC, CBS, or NBC in years...
We only put CNN on when they have a 'debate'....and then we usually turn it off...
KO & MSNBC...the only place you can find good old fashioned journalism...
Comment by 
livingonli on 04/17/2008 13:50:38
livingonli on 04/17/2008 13:50:38
Good morning all.
That debate was two hours of my life I will never get back. I think I got more out of my interactions at this blog, AAP (not as much), the Shoot the Messenger blog and the Democracy Interactive chatroom. I went in there when some people were commenting during hour 3 of Jeff Farias show about not being able to see the debate live because the debate was not shown live in the Mountain and Pacific time zones.
That debate was two hours of my life I will never get back. I think I got more out of my interactions at this blog, AAP (not as much), the Shoot the Messenger blog and the Democracy Interactive chatroom. I went in there when some people were commenting during hour 3 of Jeff Farias show about not being able to see the debate live because the debate was not shown live in the Mountain and Pacific time zones.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 04/17/2008 13:50:43
wickedpam on 04/17/2008 13:50:43
Connor! :hug:
Morning all! :hug:
Sheesh I'm glad I forgot there was a debate and watched Big Brother instead.
Morning all! :hug:
Sheesh I'm glad I forgot there was a debate and watched Big Brother instead.
Comment by starling310 on 04/17/2008 13:51:25
starling310 on 04/17/2008 13:51:25
Further clarification on my comment. . . 
Alcoholics can be good people, as in my Bro's case.
Pedophiles? Never good people.
But, this bullSHITE about you are the SAME as anyone you know is completely LUDICROUS!
Alcoholics can be good people, as in my Bro's case.
Pedophiles? Never good people.
But, this bullSHITE about you are the SAME as anyone you know is completely LUDICROUS!
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 13:51:37
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:51:37
I added the information provided to the front page of the blog.
The Debate in 30 seconds:
:puke:
provided to the front page of the blog. The Debate in 30 seconds:
:puke:
Comment by livingonli on 04/17/2008 13:51:53
livingonli on 04/17/2008 13:51:53
Good morning Mala. You should have joined us on the blog last night. it was a blast. 
Comment by starling310 on 04/17/2008 13:53:16
But you missed the party in Connor's room!
starling310 on 04/17/2008 13:53:16
Quote by wickedpam:
Sheesh I'm glad I forgot there was a debate and watched Big Brother instead.
But you missed the party in Connor's room!
Comment by wickedpam on 04/17/2008 13:56:29
wickedpam on 04/17/2008 13:56:29
Party in Connor's Room?! Dang it all!
Heyya Liv, Star, Everyone.
Heyya Liv, Star, Everyone.
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 13:56:29
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:56:29
:thud:
Seriously, this is one that is funny and sad at the same time...
Seriously, this is one that is funny and sad at the same time...
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 13:57:18
It's insulting. Totally insulting... My blood pressure is rising today.
Raine on 04/17/2008 13:57:18
Quote by starling310:
But, this bullSHITE about you are the SAME as anyone you know is completely LUDICROUS!
Comment by jd_in_ny on 04/17/2008 13:57:54
jd_in_ny on 04/17/2008 13:57:54
Oh, Bill, Bill, Bill. For shame.
Young and Bitter for Obama.
Young and Bitter for Obama.
Comment by starling310 on 04/17/2008 13:59:24
starling310 on 04/17/2008 13:59:24
JD...did you hear about the Bumper Stickers I made?
"BITTER" VOTER FOR OBAMA
I am hoping to get them in the mail soon. . . be glad to send ya one!
"BITTER" VOTER FOR OBAMA
I am hoping to get them in the mail soon. . . be glad to send ya one!
Comment by starling310 on 04/17/2008 14:00:00
starling310 on 04/17/2008 14:00:00
Mala's also got them for sale in her Cafe Press shop. . . WICKEDBITS.
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 14:01:26
Raine on 04/17/2008 14:01:26
Hey... Mala, can you give me a link again to your cafe press shop? I want to put it up in our links section!
Comment by jd_in_ny on 04/17/2008 14:02:26
I saw that yesterday - I'd love one!
jd_in_ny on 04/17/2008 14:02:26
Quote by starling310:
JD...did you hear about the Bumper Stickers I made?
"BITTER" VOTER FOR OBAMA
I am hoping to get them in the mail soon. . . be glad to send ya one!
I saw that yesterday - I'd love one!
Comment by livingonli on 04/17/2008 14:03:38
Do you still have your cafe press shop?
livingonli on 04/17/2008 14:03:38
Quote by Raine:
Hey... Mala, can you give me a link again to your cafe press shop? I want to put it up in our links section!
Do you still have your cafe press shop?
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 14:05:41
Somewhere. I only have the one shirt and no one bought it.
I was kinda lazy about it...
Raine on 04/17/2008 14:05:41
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
Hey... Mala, can you give me a link again to your cafe press shop? I want to put it up in our links section!
Do you still have your cafe press shop?
I was kinda lazy about it...
Comment by wickedpam on 04/17/2008 14:06:37
Thanks for the plugs guys! :hug:
WickedBits
wickedpam on 04/17/2008 14:06:37
Quote by Raine:
Hey... Mala, can you give me a link again to your cafe press shop? I want to put it up in our links section!
Thanks for the plugs guys!
:hug:WickedBits
Comment by wickedpam on 04/17/2008 14:07:21
I think you should re-open it :D
wickedpam on 04/17/2008 14:07:21
Quote by Raine:Somewhere. I only have the one shirt and no one bought it.Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
Hey... Mala, can you give me a link again to your cafe press shop? I want to put it up in our links section!
Do you still have your cafe press shop?
I was kinda lazy about it...
I think you should re-open it :D
Comment by wickedpam on 04/17/2008 14:08:29
wickedpam on 04/17/2008 14:08:29
And the mind reels about the possible topics.
Comment by Raine on 04/17/2008 14:08:53
******Updated Phone number for ABC in Blog post******
And here as well: (818) 460-7477
Raine on 04/17/2008 14:08:53
And here as well: (818) 460-7477
Comment by livingonli on 04/17/2008 14:09:18
You must have some stuff from your paintings. If it's the T-Shirt with the painting that I think it is I would buy an XXL one.
livingonli on 04/17/2008 14:09:18
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Somewhere. I only have the one shirt and no one bought it.Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
Hey... Mala, can you give me a link again to your cafe press shop? I want to put it up in our links section!
Do you still have your cafe press shop?
I was kinda lazy about it...
I think you should re-open it :D
You must have some stuff from your paintings. If it's the T-Shirt with the painting that I think it is I would buy an XXL one.
Comment by starling310 on 04/17/2008 14:10:33
Wassup with the CafePress shop? Do you make money from the stuff?
I have a couple of t-shirts, but I am always nervouse to sell them because of Intellectual Property stuff.
Like the I Helen Thomas tee is awesome, but am I allowed to use her name??? :shrug:
starling310 on 04/17/2008 14:10:33
Quote by Raine:Somewhere. I only have the one shirt and no one bought it.Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
Hey... Mala, can you give me a link again to your cafe press shop? I want to put it up in our links section!
Do you still have your cafe press shop?
I was kinda lazy about it...
Wassup with the CafePress shop? Do you make money from the stuff?
I have a couple of t-shirts, but I am always nervouse to sell them because of Intellectual Property stuff.
Like the I
Helen Thomas tee is awesome, but am I allowed to use her name??? :shrug:
Comment by livingonli on 04/17/2008 14:13:43
livingonli on 04/17/2008 14:13:43
I love the Grampa Simpson drops. 
Maybe Shane-O should put some of those here.
Maybe Shane-O should put some of those here.
Comment by wickedpam on 04/17/2008 14:14:32
In theroy you're suppose to be able to make money, I would just be happy to have some extra cash to spend for Christmas or on the house.
The Intellectuall stuff I think you just can't use anything that's got copyrights like company logo's and I think certain characters.
wickedpam on 04/17/2008 14:14:32
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:Somewhere. I only have the one shirt and no one bought it.Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
Hey... Mala, can you give me a link again to your cafe press shop? I want to put it up in our links section!
Do you still have your cafe press shop?
I was kinda lazy about it...
Wassup with the CafePress shop? Do you make money from the stuff?
I have a couple of t-shirts, but I am always nervouse to sell them because of Intellectual Property stuff.
Like the I
In theroy you're suppose to be able to make money, I would just be happy to have some extra cash to spend for Christmas or on the house.
The Intellectuall stuff I think you just can't use anything that's got copyrights like company logo's and I think certain characters.