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Author: Raine
Date: 06/05/2013 12:53:50
FLOTUS doesn't suffer hecklers lightly:
With a DOMA decision from SCOTUS only a few days away, there is no way President Obama will sign an executive order granting rights to people that could be taken away the first day of a republican presidency.
I'll be back with more.
Raine
“One of the things that I don’t do well is this,” she said to applause from most of the guests, according to a White House transcript. “Do you understand?”
A pool report from a reporter in the room said Obama “left the lectern and moved over to the protester.” The pool report quoted Obama as saying: “Listen to me or you can take the mic, but I’m leaving. You all decide. You have one choice.”
The proposed executive order that prompted Sturtz’s outburst would prohibit federal contractors from discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.
LGBT activists, many of whom hailed Obama for his vocal support for same-sex marriage rights in the months leading up to his reelection in 2012, have been increasingly dismayed that the White House has not yet acted on the proposed order.
I'll be back with more.
Raine
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Comment by 
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 13:14:05
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 13:14:05
Way to go WaPo! At the bottom of the story you posted Raine, there is a slide show of Michelle Obama fashion icon.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 13:15:26
Weird, yes. Kinda cool, yes. But more weird than anything else.
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 13:15:26
Quote by Raine:
John Travolta is weird.
Weird, yes. Kinda cool, yes. But more weird than anything else.
Comment by 
Raine on 06/05/2013 13:21:14
I found that strange and uncomfortable.
Raine on 06/05/2013 13:21:14
Quote by Mondobubba:
Way to go WaPo! At the bottom of the story you posted Raine, there is a slide show of Michelle Obama fashion icon.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 06/05/2013 13:27:27
wickedpam on 06/05/2013 13:27:27
Morning 
As soon as FLOTUS said "Do you understand me" I bet that lady shrank to 2 inches tall in her seat.
But seriously, heckling the First Lady, any First Lady, is rather rude and over the line
As soon as FLOTUS said "Do you understand me" I bet that lady shrank to 2 inches tall in her seat.
But seriously, heckling the First Lady, any First Lady, is rather rude and over the line
Comment by Raine on 06/05/2013 13:37:13
This keeps popping into my head:
Raine on 06/05/2013 13:37:13
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning
As soon as FLOTUS said "Do you understand me" I bet that lady shrank to 2 inches tall in her seat.
But seriously, heckling the First Lady, any First Lady, is rather rude and over the line
Comment by wickedpam on 06/05/2013 13:46:08
I have used that line many times
wickedpam on 06/05/2013 13:46:08
Quote by Raine:This keeps popping into my head:Quote by wickedpam:
Morning
As soon as FLOTUS said "Do you understand me" I bet that lady shrank to 2 inches tall in her seat.
But seriously, heckling the First Lady, any First Lady, is rather rude and over the line
I have used that line many times
Comment by 
Scoopster on 06/05/2013 14:02:15
Scoopster on 06/05/2013 14:02:15
Mornin' all.. 
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 14:47:57
My thought was how sexist and demeaning.
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 14:47:57
Quote by Raine:I found that strange and uncomfortable.Quote by Mondobubba:
Way to go WaPo! At the bottom of the story you posted Raine, there is a slide show of Michelle Obama fashion icon.
My thought was how sexist and demeaning.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 14:52:28
Dominic West? Jimmy "What the fuck did I do?" McNulty????
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 14:52:28
Quote by Raine:
I am actually totally shocked!
Dominic West? Jimmy "What the fuck did I do?" McNulty????
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/05/2013 14:53:15
Will in Chicago on 06/05/2013 14:53:15
Good morning, bloggers!!
Raine, I fear that we long ago rejected civility in our public dialog. The First Lady may have more influence on the President than almost anyone else, but she is not a political figure.
Raine, I fear that we long ago rejected civility in our public dialog. The First Lady may have more influence on the President than almost anyone else, but she is not a political figure.
Comment by Raine on 06/05/2013 14:56:31
To be honest I did find it sexist -- and thought perhaps I was being too sensitive -- so I left it as strange and uncomfortable.
I am glad to see it wasn't me. They could have had a slide show of Michelle and her 'Let's Move' campaign -- her gardening, works with shelters, vets, etc...
It is also not lost on me that there are a lot of people out there who have declared her as wrong for taking down said heckler -- I suspect these are the same people that Just LOVE when shit like this happens: Just google the phrase Things like this:
he celebrates his assholery:
Raine on 06/05/2013 14:56:31
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I found that strange and uncomfortable.Quote by Mondobubba:
Way to go WaPo! At the bottom of the story you posted Raine, there is a slide show of Michelle Obama fashion icon.
My thought was how sexist and demeaning.
I am glad to see it wasn't me. They could have had a slide show of Michelle and her 'Let's Move' campaign -- her gardening, works with shelters, vets, etc...
It is also not lost on me that there are a lot of people out there who have declared her as wrong for taking down said heckler -- I suspect these are the same people that Just LOVE when shit like this happens: Just google the phrase Things like this:
"You're a real big shot," Christie shouted at the man. "You're a real big shot shooting your mouth off."
"Just take care of the teachers," the man responded.
Christie then marched towards the man, yelling at him to "keep walkin' away ... keep walkin'."
Comment by Raine on 06/05/2013 14:57:36
I was less shocked at that then who is playing Lizz.
Raine on 06/05/2013 14:57:36
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
I am actually totally shocked!
Dominic West? Jimmy "What the fuck did I do?" McNulty????
Comment by Raine on 06/05/2013 15:01:31
I hope he took a few anger management classes since his last gig.
I wish him well. Baseball is truly something he loves.
Raine on 06/05/2013 15:01:31
Quote by Mondobubba:
How long before KO pisses off the TBS brass?
I wish him well. Baseball is truly something he loves.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 15:02:46
It doesn't even look like Ms Bonham-Carter.
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 15:02:46
Quote by Raine:I was less shocked at that then who is playing Lizz.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
I am actually totally shocked!
Dominic West? Jimmy "What the fuck did I do?" McNulty????
It doesn't even look like Ms Bonham-Carter.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/05/2013 15:06:37
Very good make up and should be better than the Lindsay Lohan vehicle, which I understood fell apart within a matter of moments.
Will in Chicago on 06/05/2013 15:06:37
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I was less shocked at that then who is playing Lizz.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
I am actually totally shocked!
Dominic West? Jimmy "What the fuck did I do?" McNulty????
It doesn't even look like Ms Bonham-Carter.
Very good make up and should be better than the Lindsay Lohan vehicle, which I understood fell apart within a matter of moments.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 15:14:55
I just read this article on FLOTUS handling the heckler. One does not match rude behavior with rude behavior, Governor.
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 15:14:55
Quote by Raine:To be honest I did find it sexist -- and thought perhaps I was being too sensitive -- so I left it as strange and uncomfortable.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I found that strange and uncomfortable.Quote by Mondobubba:
Way to go WaPo! At the bottom of the story you posted Raine, there is a slide show of Michelle Obama fashion icon.
My thought was how sexist and demeaning.
I am glad to see it wasn't me. They could have had a slide show of Michelle and her 'Let's Move' campaign -- her gardening, works with shelters, vets, etc...
It is also not lost on me that there are a lot of people out there who have declared her as wrong for taking down said heckler -- I suspect these are the same people that Just LOVE when shit like this happens: Just google the phrase Things like this:he celebrates his assholery:"You're a real big shot," Christie shouted at the man. "You're a real big shot shooting your mouth off."
"Just take care of the teachers," the man responded.
Christie then marched towards the man, yelling at him to "keep walkin' away ... keep walkin'."
I just read this article on FLOTUS handling the heckler. One does not match rude behavior with rude behavior, Governor.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 15:23:36
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 15:23:36
Oh dear! Double post. Sorry. 
Comment by wickedpam on 06/05/2013 15:28:58
wickedpam on 06/05/2013 15:28:58
ya, that testimony was rather overwrought
Comment by Raine on 06/05/2013 15:34:50
THIS: Was what I thought as well.
That was Momma Michelle dealing with petulance.
I do however disagree with this part of that article: Perhaps I am being a hypocrite here, but advocating rape -- and protesting it is a hellova lot different than what happened here.
A woman paid to see Tosh -- she didn't pay to listen to rape jokes. and to be honest, while I believe the author of the salon article is writing from an honest perspective, it is a bad comparison.
What happened here was a 500 dollar private fundraising event -- private. It wasn't a campaign rally -- and she wasn't arrested. Interestingly:
Raine on 06/05/2013 15:34:50
Quote by Mondobubba:
I just read this article on FLOTUS handling the heckler. One does not match rude behavior with rude behavior, Governor.
It was the determined tone of a woman who, swear to God, will turn this car around RIGHT NOW if you can’t control yourselves. I don’t know where Sturtz went after her tussle, but I’d have instinctively gone straight to my room.
That was Momma Michelle dealing with petulance.
I do however disagree with this part of that article:
We see it again and again, and never satisfyingly. Last summer, a comedy club patron enticed Daniel Tosh to make some very unfortunate remarks about rape – an event that was set in motion the woman decided, “I felt that sitting there and saying nothing, or leaving quietly, would have been against my values as a person and as a woman.†In other words, much like Sturtz, she decided that her values should be made known to everyone in the audience, because they were more important than anything anybody else was saying or doing. Certainly more important than what the person the rest of the assembly had paid their money to see was saying and doing.
A woman paid to see Tosh -- she didn't pay to listen to rape jokes. and to be honest, while I believe the author of the salon article is writing from an honest perspective, it is a bad comparison.
What happened here was a 500 dollar private fundraising event -- private. It wasn't a campaign rally -- and she wasn't arrested.
The mother of a soldier killed in Iraq was arrested Thursday after interrupting a campaign speech by first lady Laura Bush. As police hauled her away, she shouted, "Police brutality."
Wearing a T-shirt with the message "President Bush You Killed My Son," Sue Niederer of nearby Hopewell screamed questions at the first lady as the audience tried to drown her out by chanting, "Four more years! Four more years!"
She pressed on, refused to leave and eventually police removed her from the firehouse rally.
Outside the hall, she said she had a ticket and asked why she was being arrested. She was told by police she had entered a private event and had refused to leave, the Trenton Times reported.
Comment by Raine on 06/05/2013 15:35:40
pearl clutching -- it was kabuki theatre.
Raine on 06/05/2013 15:35:40
Quote by wickedpam:
ya, that testimony was rather overwrought
Comment by Raine on 06/05/2013 15:36:30
Fixed
Raine on 06/05/2013 15:36:30
Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh dear! Double post. Sorry.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 15:43:23
The Tosh comparison is a bit labored. I do like the I'll turn this fund-raiser around if you kids don't stop acting up idea is very apt.
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 15:43:23
Quote by Raine:THIS:Quote by Mondobubba:
I just read this article on FLOTUS handling the heckler. One does not match rude behavior with rude behavior, Governor.Was what I thought as well.It was the determined tone of a woman who, swear to God, will turn this car around RIGHT NOW if you can’t control yourselves. I don’t know where Sturtz went after her tussle, but I’d have instinctively gone straight to my room.
That was Momma Michelle dealing with petulance.
I do however disagree with this part of that article:Perhaps I am being a hypocrite here, but advocating rape -- and protesting it is a hellova lot different than what happened here.We see it again and again, and never satisfyingly. Last summer, a comedy club patron enticed Daniel Tosh to make some very unfortunate remarks about rape – an event that was set in motion the woman decided, “I felt that sitting there and saying nothing, or leaving quietly, would have been against my values as a person and as a woman.†In other words, much like Sturtz, she decided that her values should be made known to everyone in the audience, because they were more important than anything anybody else was saying or doing. Certainly more important than what the person the rest of the assembly had paid their money to see was saying and doing.
A woman paid to see Tosh -- she didn't pay to listen to rape jokes. and to be honest, while I believe the author of the salon article is writing from an honest perspective, it is a bad comparison.
What happened here was a 500 dollar private fundraising event -- private. It wasn't a campaign rally -- and she wasn't arrested.Interestingly:The mother of a soldier killed in Iraq was arrested Thursday after interrupting a campaign speech by first lady Laura Bush. As police hauled her away, she shouted, "Police brutality."
Wearing a T-shirt with the message "President Bush You Killed My Son," Sue Niederer of nearby Hopewell screamed questions at the first lady as the audience tried to drown her out by chanting, "Four more years! Four more years!"
She pressed on, refused to leave and eventually police removed her from the firehouse rally.Outside the hall, she said she had a ticket and asked why she was being arrested. She was told by police she had entered a private event and had refused to leave, the Trenton Times reported.
The Tosh comparison is a bit labored. I do like the I'll turn this fund-raiser around if you kids don't stop acting up idea is very apt.
Comment by 
livingonli on 06/05/2013 15:53:43
livingonli on 06/05/2013 15:53:43
Good morning, folks. Last night's ball game went fast but then Sportsnite kept us busy with the updating stories on the latest steroid allegations.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 15:54:01
Danke, Dieter.
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 15:54:01
Quote by Raine:FixedQuote by Mondobubba:
Oh dear! Double post. Sorry.
Danke, Dieter.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/05/2013 16:36:16
wickedpam on 06/05/2013 16:36:16
am I the only one who dislikes it when guests skype into radio shows for their interviews?
Comment by 
clintster on 06/05/2013 16:38:59
clintster on 06/05/2013 16:38:59
A building in Philadephia has collapsed. At the moment, 11 people have been rescued, two more remain trapped. Coverage here.
When I clicked the link, I recognized the Salvation Army store as one the family and I visited in 2011. We were all there for a conference Mrs. C was attending, and Ian and I visited the shop as we were walking about. He left his pug toy in the SA while we were looking around, and when I realized he had forgotten it, we had to race ten blocks back to retrieve it before it closed for the day.
When I clicked the link, I recognized the Salvation Army store as one the family and I visited in 2011. We were all there for a conference Mrs. C was attending, and Ian and I visited the shop as we were walking about. He left his pug toy in the SA while we were looking around, and when I realized he had forgotten it, we had to race ten blocks back to retrieve it before it closed for the day.
Comment by Raine on 06/05/2013 16:46:20
It depends on if the producer made sure the skyper's mic levels are correct.
I know it's hard to tell that Bernie Sanders actually calls in on Skype. His and Thom's staff made sure things we sounding correctly. This caller on Pap is pretty bad.
Raine on 06/05/2013 16:46:20
Quote by wickedpam:
am I the only one who dislikes it when guests skype into radio shows for their interviews?
I know it's hard to tell that Bernie Sanders actually calls in on Skype. His and Thom's staff made sure things we sounding correctly. This caller on Pap is pretty bad.
Comment by Raine on 06/05/2013 16:47:18
It's freeky when things like that happen.
Raine on 06/05/2013 16:47:18
Quote by clintster:
A building in Philadephia has collapsed. At the moment, 11 people have been rescued, two more remain trapped. Coverage here.
When I clicked the link, I recognized the Salvation Army store as one the family and I visited in 2011. We were all there for a conference Mrs. C was attending, and Ian and I visited the shop as we were walking about. He left his pug toy in the SA while we were looking around, and when I realized he had forgotten it, we had to race ten blocks back to retrieve it before it closed for the day.
Comment by 
TriSec on 06/05/2013 16:51:15
Gonna crack my knuckles and jump for joy! Got a clean bill of health from Dr. McCoy Weissman!
TriSec on 06/05/2013 16:51:15
Comment by TriSec on 06/05/2013 16:55:53
Mr. Travolta once owned the last flying Lockheed Constellation in the United States. He currently holds an Airline Transport Pilot's certificate, flies a vintage Boeing 707, and wears a pilot's uniform while doing so.
TriSec on 06/05/2013 16:55:53
Quote by Mondobubba:
Weird, yes. Kinda cool, yes. But more weird than anything else.
Mr. Travolta once owned the last flying Lockheed Constellation in the United States. He currently holds an Airline Transport Pilot's certificate, flies a vintage Boeing 707, and wears a pilot's uniform while doing so.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 17:02:36
Now, that is cool.
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 17:02:36
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Weird, yes. Kinda cool, yes. But more weird than anything else.
Mr. Travolta once owned the last flying Lockheed Constellation in the United States. He currently holds an Airline Transport Pilot's certificate, flies a vintage Boeing 707, and wears a pilot's uniform while doing so.
Now, that is cool.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 17:03:18
Excellent news, good sir. Congrats!
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 17:03:18
Quote by TriSec:Gonna crack my knuckles and jump for joy! Got a clean bill of health from Dr. McCoyWeissman!
Excellent news, good sir. Congrats!
Comment by wickedpam on 06/05/2013 17:06:55
Yay!
wickedpam on 06/05/2013 17:06:55
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:Gonna crack my knuckles and jump for joy! Got a clean bill of health from Dr. McCoyWeissman!
Excellent news, good sir. Congrats!
Yay!
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 17:12:34
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 17:12:34
Nice use of the late, great Charles Napier as Adam.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/05/2013 17:15:43
Will in Chicago on 06/05/2013 17:15:43
Good news, TriSec!
Comment by Raine on 06/05/2013 17:24:58
It's still strange that he crashed the wedding. That is just weird.
Raine on 06/05/2013 17:24:58
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Weird, yes. Kinda cool, yes. But more weird than anything else.
Mr. Travolta once owned the last flying Lockheed Constellation in the United States. He currently holds an Airline Transport Pilot's certificate, flies a vintage Boeing 707, and wears a pilot's uniform while doing so.
Now, that is cool.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 18:17:07
I guess when you get to the high "Theta Clear" level in Scientology you start jumping on couches and crashing weddings.
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 18:17:07
Quote by Raine:It's still strange that he crashed the wedding. That is just weird.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Weird, yes. Kinda cool, yes. But more weird than anything else.
Mr. Travolta once owned the last flying Lockheed Constellation in the United States. He currently holds an Airline Transport Pilot's certificate, flies a vintage Boeing 707, and wears a pilot's uniform while doing so.
Now, that is cool.
I guess when you get to the high "Theta Clear" level in Scientology you start jumping on couches and crashing weddings.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 18:22:12
Mondobubba on 06/05/2013 18:22:12
My company has gone thermo-nuclear on the minority that smokes. They were asked nicely to smoke in the only designated area that Facilities set up (half of the back "porch") did they stay there? No they invaded the non-smoking half of the porch. I saw two women there last week under the NO SMOKING SIGNS, smoking. So, as of Monday this week they are out by the standby generator, in the parking lot with no cover from the elements. Take away here is follow the rules and play nice.
They will be power washing the porch area to remove the fine film of tar and smoke particles too.
They will be power washing the porch area to remove the fine film of tar and smoke particles too.
Comment by clintster on 06/05/2013 18:38:40
Excellent news, Tri! May Allah continue to smile upon you.
clintster on 06/05/2013 18:38:40
Quote by TriSec:Gonna crack my knuckles and jump for joy! Got a clean bill of health from Dr. McCoyWeissman!
Excellent news, Tri! May Allah continue to smile upon you.
Comment by Raine on 06/05/2013 18:51:39
Raine on 06/05/2013 18:51:39
Well this kinda sucks. Paris Jackson has apparently tried to commit suicide.
She's still a kid. a 15 year old.
She's still a kid. a 15 year old.
Comment by livingonli on 06/05/2013 19:06:55
livingonli on 06/05/2013 19:06:55
Thom is back at least today.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/05/2013 20:12:42
wickedpam on 06/05/2013 20:12:42
ugh - these hateful people that Thom is willing to talk to 
Comment by livingonli on 06/05/2013 20:14:06
It really shows how vile our political discourse has become thanks to the righties.
livingonli on 06/05/2013 20:14:06
Quote by wickedpam:
ugh - these hateful people that Thom is willing to talk to
It really shows how vile our political discourse has become thanks to the righties.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/05/2013 20:21:15
I can't even be in the same room with someone like that - they are repulsive beyond words
wickedpam on 06/05/2013 20:21:15
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:
ugh - these hateful people that Thom is willing to talk to
It really shows how vile our political discourse has become thanks to the righties.
I can't even be in the same room with someone like that - they are repulsive beyond words
Comment by Raine on 06/05/2013 20:34:57
Thom likes to talk to right wing people, however: Some people should not be allowed past the call screener.
Just saying.
Raine on 06/05/2013 20:34:57
Quote by wickedpam:
ugh - these hateful people that Thom is willing to talk to
Just saying.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/05/2013 20:50:51
This was a guest, and a Reverend to boot
wickedpam on 06/05/2013 20:50:51
Quote by Raine:Thom likes to talk to right wing people, however: Some people should not be allowed past the call screener.Quote by wickedpam:
ugh - these hateful people that Thom is willing to talk to
Just saying.
This was a guest, and a Reverend to boot
Comment by Raine on 06/05/2013 20:58:29
Ahh... Understood.
Raine on 06/05/2013 20:58:29
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Thom likes to talk to right wing people, however: Some people should not be allowed past the call screener.Quote by wickedpam:
ugh - these hateful people that Thom is willing to talk to
Just saying.
This was a guest, and a Reverend to boot