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TGIF
Author: Raine
Date: 06/07/2013 12:57:17
Getting a late start to the morning... will be back!
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Comment by 
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 13:10:48
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 13:10:48
:collapses in a semi-sodden heap on a fainting couch: Too. Much. To. Drink. Last. Night. 
Comment by 
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 13:11:34
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 13:11:34
Morning 
Comment by 
TriSec on 06/07/2013 13:19:14
TriSec on 06/07/2013 13:19:14
Morning, comrades!
Why, It's Free Donut Day at ol' DD!
(I got my new fave - Key Lime Pie!
)
Why, It's Free Donut Day at ol' DD!
(I got my new fave - Key Lime Pie!
)
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 13:29:02
Not made with real key limes I wager.
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 13:29:02
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!
Why, It's Free Donut Day at ol' DD!
(I got my new fave - Key Lime Pie!
Not made with real key limes I wager.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 13:34:07
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 13:34:07
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!
Why, It's Free Donut Day at ol' DD!
(I got my new fave - Key Lime Pie!
ever since I found out they ship in there donuts daily DD has gone to the bottom of my list - much rather have a Shoppers donut
Not made with real key limes I wager.
Comment by 
Raine on 06/07/2013 13:40:39
Raine on 06/07/2013 13:40:39
Comment by 
Scoopster on 06/07/2013 13:52:38
Normally I would agree with you, but I'm not gonna look a free donut in the mouth!
Scoopster on 06/07/2013 13:52:38
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!
Why, It's Free Donut Day at ol' DD!
(I got my new fave - Key Lime Pie!
Not made with real key limes I wager.
ever since I found out they ship in there donuts daily DD has gone to the bottom of my list - much rather have a Shoppers donut
Normally I would agree with you, but I'm not gonna look a free donut in the mouth!
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 14:00:22
at this point in the "scandal" I'm pretty much of the opinion that - if you were outraged when Bush did it then carry on with righteous indignation BUT if you said nothing or deflected it as "if you have nothing to hide" arguments when Bush did it then shut your pie hole you are a hypocrite
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 14:00:22
Quote by Raine:
Well I have to admit -- between the NSA and anonymous, I am not feeling safer at all.
at this point in the "scandal" I'm pretty much of the opinion that - if you were outraged when Bush did it then carry on with righteous indignation BUT if you said nothing or deflected it as "if you have nothing to hide" arguments when Bush did it then shut your pie hole you are a hypocrite
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 14:00:58
point taken
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 14:00:58
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!
Why, It's Free Donut Day at ol' DD!
(I got my new fave - Key Lime Pie!
Not made with real key limes I wager.
ever since I found out they ship in there donuts daily DD has gone to the bottom of my list - much rather have a Shoppers donut
Normally I would agree with you, but I'm not gonna look a free donut in the mouth!
point taken
Comment by Scoopster on 06/07/2013 14:01:55
Scoopster on 06/07/2013 14:01:55
aaaand Mornin' all.. it's Happy Fridee once again! 
Couple more hours at the office, then I'm off to Providence for the pre-qualifier events. With any luck by late afternoon tomorrow you'll be able to watch my team play on the live stream!
Couple more hours at the office, then I'm off to Providence for the pre-qualifier events. With any luck by late afternoon tomorrow you'll be able to watch my team play on the live stream!
Comment by 
BobR on 06/07/2013 14:04:39
My points exactly (from yesterday's blog). FOX "News" should just show pictures of bunnies.
BobR on 06/07/2013 14:04:39
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Well I have to admit -- between the NSA and anonymous, I am not feeling safer at all.
at this point in the "scandal" I'm pretty much of the opinion that - if you were outraged when Bush did it then carry on with righteous indignation BUT if you said nothing or deflected it as "if you have nothing to hide" arguments when Bush did it then shut your pie hole you are a hypocrite
My points exactly (from yesterday's blog). FOX "News" should just show pictures of bunnies.
Comment by BobR on 06/07/2013 14:05:33
BobR on 06/07/2013 14:05:33
In case you haven't seen it yet on the Book of Faces, your daily does of SQUEEE: baby sea lion snuggles with sailor
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 14:08:26
I would tune in if they had all bunnies all the time
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 14:08:26
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Well I have to admit -- between the NSA and anonymous, I am not feeling safer at all.
at this point in the "scandal" I'm pretty much of the opinion that - if you were outraged when Bush did it then carry on with righteous indignation BUT if you said nothing or deflected it as "if you have nothing to hide" arguments when Bush did it then shut your pie hole you are a hypocrite
My points exactly (from yesterday's blog). FOX "News" should just show pictures of bunnies.
I would tune in if they had all bunnies all the time
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 14:09:06
Raine on 06/07/2013 14:09:06
Ahh, I like our 4F archives.
I wrote this February 2012. In particular... this:
And yet here today we have anonymous dumping NSA documents.
and I wrote this in 2010 regarding the celebration of wikileaks and what was done in the name of national security: Look here is what I believe.
If anonymous and wikileaks can get access to whatever they want and dump it, why are people so surprised at the NSA? We have KNOWN about this for YEARS.
Seriously, this all just baffles me.
I wrote this February 2012. In particular... this:
What I found interesting is that this batch of information was obtained thru an email cache that was hacked. I asked earlier what people thought about e-mail hacking. I'm not questioning content here. I am questionting the means by which this information was procured.
I am wondering a number of things today, in particular, how and why are some people celebrating Anon/WikiLeaks for revealing information about private individuals stolen from private sources. In many cases, these are the same people who protest against government collecting information about private individuals without due course of legislative channels set up to protect citizens -- also known as the 4th amendment. I don't think Government should have the right to gather information -- cull information -- without due cause and without a warrant to do so. This has always been my stance. I don't want government in my inbox. I also find the Murdoch email/phone hacking investigation completely justified. I believe people deserve privacy. I also believe that outing a covert CIA operative is treasonous. I will quote myself:I know a lot of people were VERY angry that the former administration outed Valerie Plame -- a covert CIA agent. I am one of them. I still feel more people should have faced jail time for that treasonous act. Shouldn't we feel the same way about what WikiLeaks has done? People are outraged at the treatment of Sibel Edmonds. She is a whistleblower who has had first hand experience with what she speaks. Julian Assange and WikiLeaks do not. Someone 'procured' information that was not theirs and made it public.
And yet here today we have anonymous dumping NSA documents.
and I wrote this in 2010 regarding the celebration of wikileaks and what was done in the name of national security:
Siprnet was designed to solve the chronic problem of big bureaucracies – how to share information easily and confidentially among large numbers of people spread around the world. Siprnet is a worldwide US military internet system, kept separate from the ordinary civilian internet and run by the defence department in Washington.
Since the terrorist attacks of September 2001, there has been a move in the US to link up separate archives of government information, in the hope that key intelligence no longer gets trapped in information silos or "stovepipes".
An increasing number of US embassies were plugged into Siprnet in the last decade, so that military and diplomatic information can be shared. In 2002, 125 embassies were on Siprnet; by 2005, there were 180.
This system failed. It failed because a so called secure network has proven to be anything but secure. Why? Perhaps this is why:The US general accounting office identified 3,067,000 people cleared to "secret" and above in a 1993 study. Since then, the size of the security establishment has grown appreciably. Another GAO report in May 2009 said: "Following the terrorist attacks on September 11 2001 the nation's defence and intelligence needs grew, prompting increased demand for personnel with security clearances." A state department spokesman today refused to say exactly how many people had access to Siprnet.
There are OVER 3 million people that we know of that have access to Siprnet. Is this all just more security theatre? Has this system really made us safer? Was this a situation that was just waiting to happen?
If anonymous and wikileaks can get access to whatever they want and dump it, why are people so surprised at the NSA? We have KNOWN about this for YEARS.
Seriously, this all just baffles me.
Comment by TriSec on 06/07/2013 14:12:05
I'm totally stealing this when my right wing toolfriends start posting crap.
TriSec on 06/07/2013 14:12:05
Quote by wickedpam:
at this point in the "scandal" I'm pretty much of the opinion that - if you were outraged when Bush did it then carry on with righteous indignation BUT if you said nothing or deflected it as "if you have nothing to hide" arguments when Bush did it then shut your pie hole you are a hypocrite
I'm totally stealing this when my right wing toolfriends start posting crap.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 14:12:48
As we all know free food is the best tasting food.
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 14:12:48
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!
Why, It's Free Donut Day at ol' DD!
(I got my new fave - Key Lime Pie!
Not made with real key limes I wager.
ever since I found out they ship in there donuts daily DD has gone to the bottom of my list - much rather have a Shoppers donut
Normally I would agree with you, but I'm not gonna look a free donut in the mouth!
As we all know free food is the best tasting food.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 14:15:43
just want is needed after a long week
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 14:15:43
Quote by BobR:
In case you haven't seen it yet on the Book of Faces, your daily does of SQUEEE: baby sea lion snuggles with sailor
just want is needed after a long week
Comment by BobR on 06/07/2013 14:20:29
Free
with purchase of 
- there's always a catch. Trying to decide if it's worth braving the rain, since I already have coffee.
BobR on 06/07/2013 14:20:29
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!
Why, It's Free Donut Day at ol' DD!
(I got my new fave - Key Lime Pie!
Not made with real key limes I wager.
ever since I found out they ship in there donuts daily DD has gone to the bottom of my list - much rather have a Shoppers donut
Normally I would agree with you, but I'm not gonna look a free donut in the mouth!
As we all know free food is the best tasting food.
Free
with purchase of - there's always a catch. Trying to decide if it's worth braving the rain, since I already have coffee.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 14:22:31
Raine on 06/07/2013 14:22:31
I don't want to write again about NSA, spying, anonymous wikileaks and the hypocrisy of celebrating anarchy. I don't want to write again about NSA, spying, anonymous wikileaks and the hypocrisy of celebrating anarchy. I don't want to write again about NSA, spying, anonymous wikileaks and the hypocrisy of celebrating anarchy. I don't want to write again about NSA, spying, anonymous wikileaks and the hypocrisy of celebrating anarchy. I don't want to write again about NSA, spying, anonymous wikileaks and the hypocrisy of celebrating anarchy. I don't want to write again about NSA, spying, anonymous wikileaks and the hypocrisy of celebrating anarchy. I don't want to write again about NSA, spying, anonymous wikileaks and the hypocrisy of celebrating anarchy. I don't want to write again about NSA, spying, anonymous wikileaks and the hypocrisy of celebrating anarchy.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 14:40:20
Raine on 06/07/2013 14:40:20
The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY.
The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans — most of whom aren't suspected of any crime. This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations. But the spy agency is using the data to analyze calling patterns in an effort to detect terrorist activity, sources said in separate interviews.
"It's the largest database ever assembled in the world," said one person, who, like the others who agreed to talk about the NSA's activities, declined to be identified by name or affiliation. The agency's goal is "to create a database of every call ever made" within the nation's borders, this person added.
For the customers of these companies, it means that the government has detailed records of calls they made — across town or across the country — to family members, co-workers, business contacts and others.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 14:43:40
Raine on 06/07/2013 14:43:40
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 14:49:02
Our weather is what I call post-tropical gorgeous. Sunny to partly cloudy, a touch breezy and not too hot.
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 14:49:02
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!
Why, It's Free Donut Day at ol' DD!
(I got my new fave - Key Lime Pie!
Not made with real key limes I wager.
ever since I found out they ship in there donuts daily DD has gone to the bottom of my list - much rather have a Shoppers donut
Normally I would agree with you, but I'm not gonna look a free donut in the mouth!
As we all know free food is the best tasting food.
Free
Our weather is what I call post-tropical gorgeous. Sunny to partly cloudy, a touch breezy and not too hot.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 14:50:25
They aren't made fresh in each location like Krispy Kreme? Bastids!
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 14:50:25
Quote by TriSec:
Time to investigate the donuts???
They aren't made fresh in each location like Krispy Kreme? Bastids!
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 14:54:02
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 14:54:02
Don't mind me as I continue out gas vodka, amaretto and chartreuse.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 14:56:00
oohh I love that air - everything smells so amazingly clean
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 14:56:00
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!
Why, It's Free Donut Day at ol' DD!
(I got my new fave - Key Lime Pie!
Not made with real key limes I wager.
ever since I found out they ship in there donuts daily DD has gone to the bottom of my list - much rather have a Shoppers donut
Normally I would agree with you, but I'm not gonna look a free donut in the mouth!
As we all know free food is the best tasting food.
Free
Our weather is what I call post-tropical gorgeous. Sunny to partly cloudy, a touch breezy and not too hot.
oohh I love that air - everything smells so amazingly clean
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 14:59:54
YES! It was so weird, the local host on NPR kept saying it was overcast when I was driving to work. What? Then why was I wearing my sunglasses? Go look out a window, woman!
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 14:59:54
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!
Why, It's Free Donut Day at ol' DD!
(I got my new fave - Key Lime Pie!
Not made with real key limes I wager.
ever since I found out they ship in there donuts daily DD has gone to the bottom of my list - much rather have a Shoppers donut
Normally I would agree with you, but I'm not gonna look a free donut in the mouth!
As we all know free food is the best tasting food.
Free
Our weather is what I call post-tropical gorgeous. Sunny to partly cloudy, a touch breezy and not too hot.
oohh I love that air - everything smells so amazingly clean
YES! It was so weird, the local host on NPR kept saying it was overcast when I was driving to work. What? Then why was I wearing my sunglasses? Go look out a window, woman!
Comment by 
clintster on 06/07/2013 14:59:55
clintster on 06/07/2013 14:59:55
Just heard Steph play my Beckthoven symphony, and John say it always makes him laugh. I just smiled for the first time in a while.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 15:03:13
I laugh at that one every time as well!
Raine on 06/07/2013 15:03:13
Quote by clintster:
Just heard Steph play my Beckthoven symphony, and John say it always makes him laugh. I just smiled for the first time in a while.
I laugh at that one every time as well!
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 15:13:34
Raine on 06/07/2013 15:13:34
It's not like some people didn't fight to prevent this all from happening... from 4f in 2008....
Privacy was bought and sold to the highest bidder.
Privacy was bought and sold to the highest bidder.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 15:18:00
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 15:18:00
With Christie's unrelenting dislike of teachers my guess he was a crap student
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 15:19:40
Yeah he was that kid in the back row with the bad attitude and mocking laugh. I bet he looked something like this:
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 15:19:40
Quote by wickedpam:
With Christie's unrelenting dislike of teachers my guess he was a crap student
Yeah he was that kid in the back row with the bad attitude and mocking laugh. I bet he looked something like this:
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 15:34:54
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 15:34:54
Way to get something wrong, Altnet.
I've only started reading this article. Where they mention Thomas R. Insel, director of the National Institute of Mental Health not using the DSM, the author is completely wrong. Insel said they won't be using DSM-5.
I've only started reading this article. Where they mention Thomas R. Insel, director of the National Institute of Mental Health not using the DSM, the author is completely wrong. Insel said they won't be using DSM-5.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/07/2013 15:35:12
Scoopster on 06/07/2013 15:35:12
It's wayback machine day here at 4F..
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 15:43:19
Sorry -- It's amazing to go back and look at how much we have written over the past 6 or so years.
In that respect I have to say I am baffled about this NSA issue NOW. I don't like it, I never have, but this is simply something anyone who was paying attention KNEW ABOUT.
Hell -- even the PRISM program was passed into law in 2007. Hell I even came across this from M-Faye a few years ago about telecom immunity: <-- bolded MINE -- this was BEFORE Citizen's United!
Raine on 06/07/2013 15:43:19
Quote by Scoopster:
It's wayback machine day here at 4F..
Sorry -- It's amazing to go back and look at how much we have written over the past 6 or so years. In that respect I have to say I am baffled about this NSA issue NOW. I don't like it, I never have, but this is simply something anyone who was paying attention KNEW ABOUT.
Hell -- even the PRISM program was passed into law in 2007. Hell I even came across this from M-Faye a few years ago about telecom immunity:
The observation made by Olbermann and Abrams was that the Congress is merely covering their own collective ass as they were as complicit in undermining the FISA laws as the Bush/Cheney administration. I don't believe knowing about a crime and not acting to stop it is as bad as committing a crime, but it is a crime nonetheless, and that is apparently that crime that has Congress's guilty conscience stopping them from doing the right thing and casting a vote that does not give retroactive immunity to companies who broke the law. Chris Lavoie has said several times on the SMS that companies should not have more or better rights than people, but there is the rub - corporations are people in the eyes of the law.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 15:45:08
Raine on 06/07/2013 15:45:08
I am sorry about a lack of a blog today, but in rereading so much stuff, it is amazing to me when I read that this is a *both sides* problem from those on the right.
To be honest, it is a *you weren't listening when we were warning you* problem.
To be honest, it is a *you weren't listening when we were warning you* problem.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 15:54:04
Yeppers. I've been ruminating on this the past couple of days and pretty much reached the same conclusion. The PATRIOT Act was a Bad Idea then, and continues to be a Bad Idea. It was an enormous power grab by the executive branch; it's a genie that we are not going to be able to get back into the bottle.
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 15:54:04
Quote by Raine:
I am sorry about a lack of a blog today, but in rereading so much stuff, it is amazing to me when I read that this is a *both sides* problem from those on the right.
To be honest, it is a *you weren't listening when we were warning you* problem.
Yeppers. I've been ruminating on this the past couple of days and pretty much reached the same conclusion. The PATRIOT Act was a Bad Idea then, and continues to be a Bad Idea. It was an enormous power grab by the executive branch; it's a genie that we are not going to be able to get back into the bottle.
Comment by 
livingonli on 06/07/2013 16:06:47
livingonli on 06/07/2013 16:06:47
Good day, folks. Really crappy and rainy today so I will probably just stay indoors since it will be too much to drive out to get the free doughnut.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 16:20:17
I love rainy days when I don't have to go anywhere
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 16:20:17
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. Really crappy and rainy today so I will probably just stay indoors since it will be too much to drive out to get the free doughnut.
I love rainy days when I don't have to go anywhere
Comment by TriSec on 06/07/2013 16:38:47
TriSec on 06/07/2013 16:38:47
It's a Fox link...but I am strangely comforted by the fact that Iwo is still an emergency landing field for the US Navy....which is why we invaded it in the first place.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 17:05:30
Esplain to me why is the navy training pilots on carrier landing on chunk of volcanic rock in the Pacific ocean close to Japan as apposed to one close to the US? :headscratch:
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 17:05:30
Quote by TriSec:
It's a Fox link...but I am strangely comforted by the fact that Iwo is still an emergency landing field for the US Navy....which is why we invaded it in the first place.
Esplain to me why is the navy training pilots on carrier landing on chunk of volcanic rock in the Pacific ocean close to Japan as apposed to one close to the US? :headscratch:
Comment by TriSec on 06/07/2013 17:54:20
TriSec on 06/07/2013 17:54:20
Hmm, the hardest part about planning an entire Scouting Year is I'm trying not to "clone" Pack 250, despite knowing that the program works 100%. (If you liked what you saw, come and join Pack 205 and you will see different events in a different order.)
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 18:33:22
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 18:33:22
Comment by livingonli on 06/07/2013 18:47:29
Down here too. Rain fade on the DirecTV but I am watching Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein on Cozi TV.
livingonli on 06/07/2013 18:47:29
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Icky.
Yep. Looks like my weather yesterdee.
Down here too. Rain fade on the DirecTV but I am watching Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein on Cozi TV.
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 06/07/2013 18:48:34
Will in Chicago on 06/07/2013 18:48:34
Hi, bloggers! I hope everyone is well.
I am not surprised by the NSA, and would argue that we need to repeal the Patriot Act. I just believe that putting millions of people in a database, without their consent, is intrusive.
Today, I am doing various boring household chores in addition to job hunting. In the good news, I think that my interview yesterday went well.
Also, I did some more job hunting in Massachusetts and Virginia. I am waiting to hear from some of the places that I have applied to of late. One quick question for our Virginia folks. What counties in addition to Fairfax County, are considered part of Northern Virginia and the DC area?
I am not surprised by the NSA, and would argue that we need to repeal the Patriot Act. I just believe that putting millions of people in a database, without their consent, is intrusive.
Today, I am doing various boring household chores in addition to job hunting. In the good news, I think that my interview yesterday went well.
Also, I did some more job hunting in Massachusetts and Virginia. I am waiting to hear from some of the places that I have applied to of late. One quick question for our Virginia folks. What counties in addition to Fairfax County, are considered part of Northern Virginia and the DC area?
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 19:01:02
here you go, Will:
Raine on 06/07/2013 19:01:02
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Hi, bloggers! I hope everyone is well.
I am not surprised by the NSA, and would argue that we need to repeal the Patriot Act. I just believe that putting millions of people in a database, without their consent, is intrusive.
Today, I am doing various boring household chores in addition to job hunting. In the good news, I think that my interview yesterday went well.
Also, I did some more job hunting in Massachusetts and Virginia. I am waiting to hear from some of the places that I have applied to of late. One quick question for our Virginia folks. What counties in addition to Fairfax County, are considered part of Northern Virginia and the DC area?
The counties of Arlington, Clarke, Culpeper, Fairfax, Fauquier, King George, Loudoun, Prince William, Spotsylvania, Stafford, and Warren, and the independent cities Alexandria, Falls Church, Fairfax, Fredericksburg, Manassas, and Manassas Park
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:03:33
Alexandria, Springfield, Annandale, Arlington, Loudoun Co, Sterling, Ashburn, to some extend Prince William Co, Manassas, Manassas Park, Dale City, Woodbridge, Tyson's Corner, McLean, Great Falls........ did I miss any?
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:03:33
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Hi, bloggers! I hope everyone is well.
I am not surprised by the NSA, and would argue that we need to repeal the Patriot Act. I just believe that putting millions of people in a database, without their consent, is intrusive.
Today, I am doing various boring household chores in addition to job hunting. In the good news, I think that my interview yesterday went well.
Also, I did some more job hunting in Massachusetts and Virginia. I am waiting to hear from some of the places that I have applied to of late. One quick question for our Virginia folks. What counties in addition to Fairfax County, are considered part of Northern Virginia and the DC area?
Alexandria, Springfield, Annandale, Arlington, Loudoun Co, Sterling, Ashburn, to some extend Prince William Co, Manassas, Manassas Park, Dale City, Woodbridge, Tyson's Corner, McLean, Great Falls........ did I miss any?
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:05:03
Some of those are more the outlying area of NoVA
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:05:03
Quote by Raine:here you go, Will:Quote by Will in Chicago:
Hi, bloggers! I hope everyone is well.
I am not surprised by the NSA, and would argue that we need to repeal the Patriot Act. I just believe that putting millions of people in a database, without their consent, is intrusive.
Today, I am doing various boring household chores in addition to job hunting. In the good news, I think that my interview yesterday went well.
Also, I did some more job hunting in Massachusetts and Virginia. I am waiting to hear from some of the places that I have applied to of late. One quick question for our Virginia folks. What counties in addition to Fairfax County, are considered part of Northern Virginia and the DC area?The counties of Arlington, Clarke, Culpeper, Fairfax, Fauquier, King George, Loudoun, Prince William, Spotsylvania, Stafford, and Warren, and the independent cities Alexandria, Falls Church, Fairfax, Fredericksburg, Manassas, and Manassas Park
Some of those are more the outlying area of NoVA
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:05:44
Classic
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:05:44
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by TriSec:
Icky.
Yep. Looks like my weather yesterdee.
Down here too. Rain fade on the DirecTV but I am watching Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein on Cozi TV.
Classic
Comment by TriSec on 06/07/2013 19:07:25
TriSec on 06/07/2013 19:07:25
Witness the humble clam.
An ordinary bivalve mollusk, it settles on the ocean floor and filters plankton for nutrients. It is somewhere on the lower end of the food chain.
But when schucked, breaded, and plunged into a vat of boiling oil, a remarkable transition occurs, and the lowly clam becomes the pinnacle of oceanfront dining....even in the hills of Worcester far from the sea.
Now I shall have to burn this town. (What the hell?)
An ordinary bivalve mollusk, it settles on the ocean floor and filters plankton for nutrients. It is somewhere on the lower end of the food chain.
But when schucked, breaded, and plunged into a vat of boiling oil, a remarkable transition occurs, and the lowly clam becomes the pinnacle of oceanfront dining....even in the hills of Worcester far from the sea.
Now I shall have to burn this town. (What the hell?)
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 19:08:03
True, but I figured you would be better at pointing out the outliers.
Raine on 06/07/2013 19:08:03
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:here you go, Will:Quote by Will in Chicago:
Hi, bloggers! I hope everyone is well.
I am not surprised by the NSA, and would argue that we need to repeal the Patriot Act. I just believe that putting millions of people in a database, without their consent, is intrusive.
Today, I am doing various boring household chores in addition to job hunting. In the good news, I think that my interview yesterday went well.
Also, I did some more job hunting in Massachusetts and Virginia. I am waiting to hear from some of the places that I have applied to of late. One quick question for our Virginia folks. What counties in addition to Fairfax County, are considered part of Northern Virginia and the DC area?The counties of Arlington, Clarke, Culpeper, Fairfax, Fauquier, King George, Loudoun, Prince William, Spotsylvania, Stafford, and Warren, and the independent cities Alexandria, Falls Church, Fairfax, Fredericksburg, Manassas, and Manassas Park
Some of those are more the outlying area of NoVA
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/07/2013 19:08:09
I set a limit of about an hour's distance from Boston (Boston National Historic Park) for my Massachusetts job search. Does a similar distance from a prominent location in Washington, D.C., maybe the National Mall, seem logical?
Will in Chicago on 06/07/2013 19:08:09
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:here you go, Will:Quote by Will in Chicago:
Hi, bloggers! I hope everyone is well.
I am not surprised by the NSA, and would argue that we need to repeal the Patriot Act. I just believe that putting millions of people in a database, without their consent, is intrusive.
Today, I am doing various boring household chores in addition to job hunting. In the good news, I think that my interview yesterday went well.
Also, I did some more job hunting in Massachusetts and Virginia. I am waiting to hear from some of the places that I have applied to of late. One quick question for our Virginia folks. What counties in addition to Fairfax County, are considered part of Northern Virginia and the DC area?The counties of Arlington, Clarke, Culpeper, Fairfax, Fauquier, King George, Loudoun, Prince William, Spotsylvania, Stafford, and Warren, and the independent cities Alexandria, Falls Church, Fairfax, Fredericksburg, Manassas, and Manassas Park
Some of those are more the outlying area of NoVA
I set a limit of about an hour's distance from Boston (Boston National Historic Park) for my Massachusetts job search. Does a similar distance from a prominent location in Washington, D.C., maybe the National Mall, seem logical?
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:13:20
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:13:20
Quote by Raine:True, but I figured you would be better at pointing out the outliers.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:here you go, Will:Quote by Will in Chicago:
Hi, bloggers! I hope everyone is well.
I am not surprised by the NSA, and would argue that we need to repeal the Patriot Act. I just believe that putting millions of people in a database, without their consent, is intrusive.
Today, I am doing various boring household chores in addition to job hunting. In the good news, I think that my interview yesterday went well.
Also, I did some more job hunting in Massachusetts and Virginia. I am waiting to hear from some of the places that I have applied to of late. One quick question for our Virginia folks. What counties in addition to Fairfax County, are considered part of Northern Virginia and the DC area?The counties of Arlington, Clarke, Culpeper, Fairfax, Fauquier, King George, Loudoun, Prince William, Spotsylvania, Stafford, and Warren, and the independent cities Alexandria, Falls Church, Fairfax, Fredericksburg, Manassas, and Manassas Park
Some of those are more the outlying area of NoVA
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:16:16
not sure - the Mall is more the tourist area of DC, I can tell you that if I want to go into DC on a weekday from Manassas is takes me about 1-2 hours depending on traffic and where I have to catch the metro
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:16:16
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:here you go, Will:Quote by Will in Chicago:
Hi, bloggers! I hope everyone is well.
I am not surprised by the NSA, and would argue that we need to repeal the Patriot Act. I just believe that putting millions of people in a database, without their consent, is intrusive.
Today, I am doing various boring household chores in addition to job hunting. In the good news, I think that my interview yesterday went well.
Also, I did some more job hunting in Massachusetts and Virginia. I am waiting to hear from some of the places that I have applied to of late. One quick question for our Virginia folks. What counties in addition to Fairfax County, are considered part of Northern Virginia and the DC area?The counties of Arlington, Clarke, Culpeper, Fairfax, Fauquier, King George, Loudoun, Prince William, Spotsylvania, Stafford, and Warren, and the independent cities Alexandria, Falls Church, Fairfax, Fredericksburg, Manassas, and Manassas Park
Some of those are more the outlying area of NoVA
I set a limit of about an hour's distance from Boston (Boston National Historic Park) for my Massachusetts job search. Does a similar distance from a prominent location in Washington, D.C., maybe the National Mall, seem logical?
not sure - the Mall is more the tourist area of DC, I can tell you that if I want to go into DC on a weekday from Manassas is takes me about 1-2 hours depending on traffic and where I have to catch the metro
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 19:17:12
Raine on 06/07/2013 19:17:12
Fucking Sensenbrenner. My head hurts.
Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI), who helped draft the PATRIOT Act, is exploring options to narrow a provision of the law that allows the National Security Agency (NSA) to obtain telephonic metadata on nearly all Americans. The comments are the first indication that Congress may act to restrict the government’s ongoing data collection since the Guardian published a secret court order compelling Verizon to turn over its records on a “on an ongoing daily basis†and the Wall Street Journal reported that AT&T and Sprint are also sending their records to the government.
“I have a big problem because the business records part of the Patriot Act, which is what was used to justify this, was designed for specific investigations,†Sensenbrenner told Fox News on Friday. “We’re seeing big government in action, just like George Orwell predicted but maybe a few years later,†he added.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 19:22:52
For me, If I can get here on the Metro it's NoVa.
Raine on 06/07/2013 19:22:52
Quote by wickedpam:
For me, If I can get here on the Metro it's NoVa.
Comment by livingonli on 06/07/2013 19:23:51
I just go by the counties that constitute the Washington, DC television market.
livingonli on 06/07/2013 19:23:51
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
For me, If I can get here on the Metro it's NoVa.
I just go by the counties that constitute the Washington, DC television market.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 19:29:58
You will recall it was THIS POS that refused to let the dems hold a hearing about the patriot act in 2005.
They held it in the basement of the capitol building and he made damn sure to turn the lights out. See, this is what REALLY pisses me off. REALLY.
Obama has the FISA court -- Bush DID NOT -- BUSH did this illegally. I;m pissed.
Raine on 06/07/2013 19:29:58
Quote by Raine:
Fucking Sensenbrenner. My head hurts.Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI), who helped draft the PATRIOT Act, is exploring options to narrow a provision of the law that allows the National Security Agency (NSA) to obtain telephonic metadata on nearly all Americans. The comments are the first indication that Congress may act to restrict the government’s ongoing data collection since the Guardian published a secret court order compelling Verizon to turn over its records on a “on an ongoing daily basis†and the Wall Street Journal reported that AT&T and Sprint are also sending their records to the government.
“I have a big problem because the business records part of the Patriot Act, which is what was used to justify this, was designed for specific investigations,†Sensenbrenner told Fox News on Friday. “We’re seeing big government in action, just like George Orwell predicted but maybe a few years later,†he added.
They held it in the basement of the capitol building and he made damn sure to turn the lights out. See, this is what REALLY pisses me off. REALLY.
Obama has the FISA court -- Bush DID NOT -- BUSH did this illegally. I;m pissed.
Comment by TriSec on 06/07/2013 19:33:17
Oh, Will...I can tell you're not from around here. If we're talking "travel time by car", on some days that could be as little as 100 yards.
Take a look at that map again - You'll see two concentric rings of interstate west of the City. The first one isI-95 Route 128; this is the heart of Suburbia. The second ring is I-495; you don't want to go past that.
TriSec on 06/07/2013 19:33:17
Quote by Will in Chicago:
I set a limit of about an hour's distance from Boston (Boston National Historic Park) for my Massachusetts job search.
Oh, Will...I can tell you're not from around here. If we're talking "travel time by car", on some days that could be as little as 100 yards.
Take a look at that map again - You'll see two concentric rings of interstate west of the City. The first one is
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:35:39
If they ever get Metro out to Prince William maybe then I'll feel more like they include us. Right now all me have is Omni Ride and VRE that only run on the weekdays. I would kill for VRE to run on weekends.
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:35:39
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
For me, If I can get here on the Metro it's NoVa.
If they ever get Metro out to Prince William maybe then I'll feel more like they include us. Right now all me have is Omni Ride and VRE that only run on the weekdays. I would kill for VRE to run on weekends.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 19:38:45
They should run on weekends. It's incredibly stupid that it doesn't.
MARC is going to start running on weekends.
Which is awesome -- I would rather take a trip to harper's Ferry by train than drive.
It's smart for TOURISM. It's just a no brainer to me.
Raine on 06/07/2013 19:38:45
Quote by wickedpam:
If they ever get Metro out to Prince William maybe then I'll feel more like they include us. Right now all me have is Omni Ride and VRE that only run on the weekdays. I would kill for VRE to run on weekends.
MARC is going to start running on weekends.
Which is awesome -- I would rather take a trip to harper's Ferry by train than drive.
It's smart for TOURISM. It's just a no brainer to me.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:43:46
Agreed. They are saying its not cost effective and are always threatening to cut funding for VRE but its packed everyday - though probably a bit more expensive then Metro
Harper's Ferry is only like 45min from my place (depending on traffic) but it would be a pretty train ride.
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 19:43:46
Quote by Raine:They should run on weekends. It's incredibly stupid that it doesn't.Quote by wickedpam:
If they ever get Metro out to Prince William maybe then I'll feel more like they include us. Right now all me have is Omni Ride and VRE that only run on the weekdays. I would kill for VRE to run on weekends.
MARC is going to start running on weekends.
Which is awesome -- I would rather take a trip to harper's Ferry by train than drive.
It's smart for TOURISM. It's just a no brainer to me.
Agreed. They are saying its not cost effective and are always threatening to cut funding for VRE but its packed everyday - though probably a bit more expensive then Metro
Harper's Ferry is only like 45min from my place (depending on traffic) but it would be a pretty train ride.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 19:43:51
Clickety Click!
Raine on 06/07/2013 19:43:51
Clickety Click!
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 19:51:20
Raine on 06/07/2013 19:51:20
Congratulations to Krystal Ball -- She had a 8 pound baby boy!
Comment by TriSec on 06/07/2013 20:00:09
TriSec on 06/07/2013 20:00:09
Harrumph. You and your modern mass-transit systems.
I'd gladly give up weekend service on the "T" if it ran better on the other 5 days of the week. Right now, we get 7 days of crappy service.
(Although I do like what DC Metro does - free parking on weekends and holidays!)
I'd gladly give up weekend service on the "T" if it ran better on the other 5 days of the week. Right now, we get 7 days of crappy service.
(Although I do like what DC Metro does - free parking on weekends and holidays!)
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 20:16:59
I love Metro, but it would be nice if the VRE ran weekends like Metro North, LIRR, NJ Transit and SEPTA. It just makes sense.
Raine on 06/07/2013 20:16:59
Quote by TriSec:
Harrumph. You and your modern mass-transit systems.
I'd gladly give up weekend service on the "T" if it ran better on the other 5 days of the week. Right now, we get 7 days of crappy service.
(Although I do like what DC Metro does - free parking on weekends and holidays!)
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 20:30:25
Raine on 06/07/2013 20:30:25
Comment by wickedpam on 06/07/2013 20:34:52
you know I saw that, I'm still trying to figure out how she was on the show
wickedpam on 06/07/2013 20:34:52
Quote by Raine:
Mondo and Mala -- you are/were Walking Dead fans right? check this crazy ish out.
you know I saw that, I'm still trying to figure out how she was on the show
Comment by livingonli on 06/07/2013 21:04:07
livingonli on 06/07/2013 21:04:07
Mets, Nats, and Red Sox all rained out tonight.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 21:07:25
Nats making up the game on Sunday -- double header...
Raine on 06/07/2013 21:07:25
Quote by livingonli:
Mets, Nats, and Red Sox all rained out tonight.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 21:08:45
Alan Dershowitz on GG...
Out of curiosity, was it Greenwald in the Guardian that broke this NSA story?
Raine on 06/07/2013 21:08:45
“We’re hearing lot of lies about what’s going on – a lot of lies,†Dershowitz warned. “We heard lies from Greenwald. He says that we’re not targeting terrorism. He says this is because we want to get political information against political opponents. It’s just not the case.â€
Out of curiosity, was it Greenwald in the Guardian that broke this NSA story?
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 21:15:09
An hour's distance in DC terms is much further than in Boston terms. Think these as Lewis and Clark Units. Take into account terrain, traffic, basic hardship of getting from a to b, etc.
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 21:15:09
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:here you go, Will:Quote by Will in Chicago:
Hi, bloggers! I hope everyone is well.
I am not surprised by the NSA, and would argue that we need to repeal the Patriot Act. I just believe that putting millions of people in a database, without their consent, is intrusive.
Today, I am doing various boring household chores in addition to job hunting. In the good news, I think that my interview yesterday went well.
Also, I did some more job hunting in Massachusetts and Virginia. I am waiting to hear from some of the places that I have applied to of late. One quick question for our Virginia folks. What counties in addition to Fairfax County, are considered part of Northern Virginia and the DC area?The counties of Arlington, Clarke, Culpeper, Fairfax, Fauquier, King George, Loudoun, Prince William, Spotsylvania, Stafford, and Warren, and the independent cities Alexandria, Falls Church, Fairfax, Fredericksburg, Manassas, and Manassas Park
Some of those are more the outlying area of NoVA
I set a limit of about an hour's distance from Boston (Boston National Historic Park) for my Massachusetts job search. Does a similar distance from a prominent location in Washington, D.C., maybe the National Mall, seem logical?
An hour's distance in DC terms is much further than in Boston terms. Think these as Lewis and Clark Units. Take into account terrain, traffic, basic hardship of getting from a to b, etc.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 21:15:50
See yesterday's blog, my first post.
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 21:15:50
Quote by Raine:Alan Dershowitz on GG...“We’re hearing lot of lies about what’s going on – a lot of lies,†Dershowitz warned. “We heard lies from Greenwald. He says that we’re not targeting terrorism. He says this is because we want to get political information against political opponents. It’s just not the case.â€
Out of curiosity, was it Greenwald in the Guardian that broke this NSA story?
See yesterday's blog, my first post.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 21:18:33
I assume that is a yes? I knew he would jump on this, but I wasn't sure if he is the actual original source. By the time bobber wrote the blog Reuters, AP and others outlets had picked up on it.
Raine on 06/07/2013 21:18:33
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Alan Dershowitz on GG...“We’re hearing lot of lies about what’s going on – a lot of lies,†Dershowitz warned. “We heard lies from Greenwald. He says that we’re not targeting terrorism. He says this is because we want to get political information against political opponents. It’s just not the case.â€
Out of curiosity, was it Greenwald in the Guardian that broke this NSA story?
See yesterday's blog, my first post.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 21:21:24
Yes, it is something that opinion writer and preening jackass, Glen Greenwald broke. Which is why I have been taking the whole thing with a huge grain of salt. Perhaps a salt lick or three.
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 21:21:24
Quote by Raine:I assume that is a yes? I knew he would jump on this, but I wasn't sure if he is the actual original source. By the time bobber wrote the blog Reuters, AP and others outlets had picked up on it.Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:Alan Dershowitz on GG...“We’re hearing lot of lies about what’s going on – a lot of lies,†Dershowitz warned. “We heard lies from Greenwald. He says that we’re not targeting terrorism. He says this is because we want to get political information against political opponents. It’s just not the case.â€
Out of curiosity, was it Greenwald in the Guardian that broke this NSA story?
See yesterday's blog, my first post.
Yes, it is something that opinion writer and preening jackass, Glen Greenwald broke. Which is why I have been taking the whole thing with a huge grain of salt. Perhaps a salt lick or three.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 21:23:38
Thanks! (seriously -- no snark)
that makes what Dershowitz said all the better.
Raine on 06/07/2013 21:23:38
Quote by Mondobubba:
Yes, it is something that opinion writer and preening jackass, Glen Greenwald broke. Which is why I have been taking the whole thing with a huge grain of salt. Perhaps a salt lick or three.
that makes what Dershowitz said all the better.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 21:33:57
Raine on 06/07/2013 21:33:57
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 21:54:47
Mondobubba on 06/07/2013 21:54:47
I've been thinking on this issue for a couple of days now. I think while Glen Greenwald is smart guy, he doesn't know what the hell meta-data is used for. Nor to I think he understands what traffic analysis is.
Comment by Raine on 06/07/2013 22:28:52
Mondo have you read this book? Published in 1982, someone told me that it contains an interesting nuggets of information... specifically this:
The NSA has been doing traffic analysis on telecom data since the beginning of direct-dial long distance. [and]the NSA did not need warrants
Since none of the information they collected was used for law enforcement purposes.
NSA Field Station F63 has been collecting telephone routing information on satellite networks since at least as early as 1981.
I asked the person where I could find this information, they directed me to this book.
Raine on 06/07/2013 22:28:52
Quote by Mondobubba:
I've been thinking on this issue for a couple of days now. I think while Glen Greenwald is smart guy, he doesn't know what the hell meta-data is used for. Nor to I think he understands what traffic analysis is.
The NSA has been doing traffic analysis on telecom data since the beginning of direct-dial long distance. [and]the NSA did not need warrants
Since none of the information they collected was used for law enforcement purposes.
NSA Field Station F63 has been collecting telephone routing information on satellite networks since at least as early as 1981.
I asked the person where I could find this information, they directed me to this book.
Comment by Raine on 06/08/2013 00:04:32
Raine on 06/08/2013 00:04:32
[div class="excerpt"]Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI), who helped draft the PATRIOT Act, is exploring options to narrow a provision of the law that allows the National Security Agency (NSA) to obtain telephonic metadata on nearly all Americans. The comments are the first indication that Congress may act to restrict the government’s ongoing data collection since the Guardian published a secret court order compelling Verizon to turn over its records on a “on an ongoing daily basis†and the Wall Street Journal reported that AT&T and Sprint are also sending their records to the government.
“I have a big problem because the business records part of the Patriot Act, which is what was used to justify this, was designed for specific investigations,†Sensenbrenner told Fox News on Friday. “We’re seeing big government in action, just like George Orwell predicted but maybe a few years later,†he added.[/div] From Think Progress: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/06/07/2119351/author-of-patriot-act-says-he-will-try-to-narrow-provisions-to-prevent-government-surveillance/
Y'all remember Jim Sensenbrenner, right? [link:http://www.bradblog.com/?p=1453|Here is his UTTER hypocrisy ]
Am I the only one who is seeing this? They were FINE when bush did this -- but now that a President who is not an R has this power they have a problem with it?
If I need to make it clear: I am not saying this is fine, good or acceptable. I am saying what I said years and years ago: If anyone thinks ANY president given powers isn't going to use them -- they are fooling themselves. This was why I was so disappointed when they gave the executive office this power.
For the GOP -- ALL OF THEM -- to feign outrage about this is utterly laughable. We knew then -- we know now. I never ever pretended that President Obama wouldn't use the powers given to the executive branch.
“I have a big problem because the business records part of the Patriot Act, which is what was used to justify this, was designed for specific investigations,†Sensenbrenner told Fox News on Friday. “We’re seeing big government in action, just like George Orwell predicted but maybe a few years later,†he added.[/div] From Think Progress: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/06/07/2119351/author-of-patriot-act-says-he-will-try-to-narrow-provisions-to-prevent-government-surveillance/
Y'all remember Jim Sensenbrenner, right? [link:http://www.bradblog.com/?p=1453|Here is his UTTER hypocrisy ]
Am I the only one who is seeing this? They were FINE when bush did this -- but now that a President who is not an R has this power they have a problem with it?
If I need to make it clear: I am not saying this is fine, good or acceptable. I am saying what I said years and years ago: If anyone thinks ANY president given powers isn't going to use them -- they are fooling themselves. This was why I was so disappointed when they gave the executive office this power.
For the GOP -- ALL OF THEM -- to feign outrage about this is utterly laughable. We knew then -- we know now. I never ever pretended that President Obama wouldn't use the powers given to the executive branch.
Comment by BobR on 06/08/2013 00:10:45
Does this face ring a bell?
BobR on 06/08/2013 00:10:45
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Mondo and Mala -- you are/were Walking Dead fans right? check this crazy ish out.
you know I saw that, I'm still trying to figure out how she was on the show
Does this face ring a bell?
Comment by wickedpam on 06/08/2013 02:39:19
nope, maybe she was a featured walker or something
wickedpam on 06/08/2013 02:39:19
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Mondo and Mala -- you are/were Walking Dead fans right? check this crazy ish out.
you know I saw that, I'm still trying to figure out how she was on the show
Does this face ring a bell?
nope, maybe she was a featured walker or something