About Us
Mission Statement
Rules of Conduct
 
Name:
Pswd:
Remember Me
Register
 

DEBUNK Debunk debunk
Author: Raine    Date: 11/15/2013 13:44:07

I'm still constructing a blog for this morning -- in the mean time, I've been debunking.

I should get paid for this. That said -- I'd just be a paid shill for for the lefties, huh?


 

92 comments (Latest Comment: 11/15/2013 22:57:25 by Mondobubba)
   Perma Link

Share This!

Furl it!
Spurl
NewsVine
Reddit
Technorati

Add a Comment

Please login to add a comment...


Comments:

Order comments Newest to Oldest  Refresh Comments

Comment by wickedpam on 11/15/2013 13:55:26
Morning

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/15/2013 14:13:33
Hello. Getting back to yesterday's "tastes like unwashed ass" comment from the Waltham delegate, pre-Columbia meso-Americans drank a concoction made with cocoa and chili powder. So there neenner neener neener!

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/15/2013 14:15:18
Comment by wickedpam on 11/15/2013 14:16:49
Mondo - Herschel is a total bad ass, Darryl is gonna be pissed, friggin creep Governor!

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/15/2013 14:21:39
Quote by wickedpam:
Mondo - Herschel is a total bad ass, Darryl is gonna be pissed, friggin creep Governor!



Yes. Yes. I know, right?

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 14:23:03
Please help me rebut this article in the context where Expanding Medicaid in NYS may possibly cause these county taxes to be lowered.

(From the thread yesterday, it is. )

I'm also trying to find the actual monetary amount NYS is set to receive.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/15/2013 14:24:15
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Mondo - Herschel is a total bad ass, Darryl is gonna be pissed, friggin creep Governor!



Yes. Yes. I know, right?


secretly I think Beth is going to be happy that her competition is gone, unless Darryl has a thing for Michonne

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/15/2013 14:27:03
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Mondo - Herschel is a total bad ass, Darryl is gonna be pissed, friggin creep Governor!



Yes. Yes. I know, right?


secretly I think Beth is going to be happy that her competition is gone, unless Darryl has a thing for Michonne



I think it is the other way around, Michonne has a thing for Darryl. Hence her trying to flirt with him.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/15/2013 14:32:44
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Mondo - Herschel is a total bad ass, Darryl is gonna be pissed, friggin creep Governor!



Yes. Yes. I know, right?


secretly I think Beth is going to be happy that her competition is gone, unless Darryl has a thing for Michonne



I think it is the other way around, Michonne has a thing for Darryl. Hence her trying to flirt with him.


That was Michonne flirting? Why am I unsettled by that? So have we killed off all of the Woodburians save for Tyrese, Sasha and the creepy little girls?


Comment by Scoopster on 11/15/2013 14:44:27
Mornin' all & Happy Fridee! Ah Randi my dahling, how we will miss your lovely lilting outbursts//

Quote by Raine:
Please help me rebut this article in the context where Expanding Medicaid in NYS may possibly cause these county taxes to be lowered.

(From the thread yesterday, it is. )

I'm also trying to find the actual monetary amount NYS is set to receive.

Found this, from the Monroe County govt. website:
Medicaid Swap A Proven Success
(County Executive Maggie) Brooks has officially locked-in $30 million in local Medicaid savings, as the County will now transition from its innovative Swap Option to a hard-cap municipal Medicaid payment plan proposed by New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo.
The Swap option, which was proposed by Brooks and subsequently passed by the Monroe County Legislature in 2007, acted as a local cap on Medicaid growth and produced $30 million in savings. The County will now transition from the Swap option to Cuomo’s hard-cap model, which limits local Medicaid growth to 2% in 2013-14, 1% in 2014-15, will reach zero growth in 2015-16, and be carried-over at zero growth for each year thereafter.
“Five years after Monroe County lifted the burden of Medicaid off the backs of local property taxpayers, I am proud that the Medicaid Swap option is a proven success,” said Brooks. “Having secured $30 million in savings, the Swap played a huge role in helping to guide our community through one of the most challenging national economic crises of our time.”

So according to the people actually running and budgeting things up there, this hasn't been an issue for like five years, and will not be an issue at all in the future. I'm guessing the only reason property taxes would go up at this point is if they had been lowered too much previously in anticipation of more savings, or if the money were being spent elsewhere.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/15/2013 14:49:36
That said, it doesn't speak for other counties in New York. And it's an admittedly poor model to have the counties footing the bill for Medicaid, which is why NY is the only state in the country to do it this way.

I'm assuming it's because NYC is so huge that it needs to stand alone.. that's probably why the Medicaid threshold is so much more generous than other states ($23k yearly income in NYC is pretty hard to live on!)

Comment by Scoopster on 11/15/2013 14:55:13
WHAT THE FUCK... You cannot even BEGIN to compare these two events.

I really did not need this level of anger today.

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 14:58:39
Oh Chris, this is one I disagree with. The Administration is a part of government -- not a marketing company. This mess was the fault of the RW echo chamber and the GOP.

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 15:02:49
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all & Happy Fridee! Ah Randi my dahling, how we will miss your lovely lilting outbursts//

Quote by Raine:
Please help me rebut this article in the context where Expanding Medicaid in NYS may possibly cause these county taxes to be lowered.

(From the thread yesterday, it is. )

I'm also trying to find the actual monetary amount NYS is set to receive.

Found this, from the Monroe County govt. website:
Medicaid Swap A Proven Success
(County Executive Maggie) Brooks has officially locked-in $30 million in local Medicaid savings, as the County will now transition from its innovative Swap Option to a hard-cap municipal Medicaid payment plan proposed by New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo.
The Swap option, which was proposed by Brooks and subsequently passed by the Monroe County Legislature in 2007, acted as a local cap on Medicaid growth and produced $30 million in savings. The County will now transition from the Swap option to Cuomo’s hard-cap model, which limits local Medicaid growth to 2% in 2013-14, 1% in 2014-15, will reach zero growth in 2015-16, and be carried-over at zero growth for each year thereafter.
“Five years after Monroe County lifted the burden of Medicaid off the backs of local property taxpayers, I am proud that the Medicaid Swap option is a proven success,” said Brooks. “Having secured $30 million in savings, the Swap played a huge role in helping to guide our community through one of the most challenging national economic crises of our time.”

So according to the people actually running and budgeting things up there, this hasn't been an issue for like five years, and will not be an issue at all in the future. I'm guessing the only reason property taxes would go up at this point is if they had been lowered too much previously in anticipation of more savings, or if the money were being spent elsewhere.
HAve I mentioned how much I appreciate you?

You see, she's putting up a link like this after she says she's still going thropugh the information I posted.

This is a NYS problem, not obamacare -- I'd wager a bet and say that the expansion may very well help the cunties lower taxes after reading this.

The other thing is this -- and I don't think she'd like to hear it -- the reason why states in the NE pay so much is that they carrry the burden of states like Georgia and Texas.

I may address all that after she finishes reading what I posted. It's a red herring, imo. I think I will nicely tell her that we are getting off topic and once she's done reading the posts, we could talk about this.


Comment by BobR on 11/15/2013 15:12:42
Quote by Raine:
... This is a NYS problem, not obamacare -- I'd wager a bet and say that the expansion may very well help the cunties lower taxes after reading this. ...

SPELL CHECK!!

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 15:16:15
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine:
... This is a NYS problem, not obamacare -- I'd wager a bet and say that the expansion may very well help the cunties lower taxes after reading this. ...

SPELL CHECK!!
oops!


Comment by BobR on 11/15/2013 15:16:29
Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 15:20:01


Oh, that's lovely -- advocating kidnapping -- nothing illegal about that at all.


Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 15:25:18
From yesterday, BTW:


Quote by TriSec:

In a statement posted on its website, Texas Oncology officials said the company would not participate as an in-network provider for the Affordable Care Act.


This is a case of what we call in the business, "Blowing smoke out of your ass."

ACA is not a payor.. If single-payor was part of the ACA, they could do that perhaps. But since Healthcare.gov is only a clearinghouse and steers customers to a mandated plan offered by, say BCBS of TX, they would be subject to all the network policies of said BCBS of TX.

Unless they are going to be anal enough to ask every patient, "How did you get your insurance", and then refuse treatment. But that might work until the patients started calling BCBS of TX to complain, in which case they would come down on Texas Oncology and tell them, "See our patients with valid coverage, or we will cut you off and send you NOBODY."

They will comply quickly, if they want to stay in business.

Thank you Tri!


Comment by wickedpam on 11/15/2013 15:26:16
Quote by Raine:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine:
... This is a NYS problem, not obamacare -- I'd wager a bet and say that the expansion may very well help the cunties lower taxes after reading this. ...

SPELL CHECK!!
oops!



Raine your brain is going faster then your typing - best ever!


Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 15:30:20
Shealagh on the phone! making a great point.

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 15:30:52
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine:
... This is a NYS problem, not obamacare -- I'd wager a bet and say that the expansion may very well help the cunties lower taxes after reading this. ...

SPELL CHECK!!
oops!



Raine your brain is going faster then your typing - best ever!
You're right it really is.


Comment by Mondobubba on 11/15/2013 15:33:29
Quote by Scoopster:
WHAT THE FUCK... You cannot even BEGIN to compare these two events.

I really did not need this level of anger today.



What?

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/15/2013 15:34:20
Quote by Raine:
From yesterday, BTW:


Quote by TriSec:

In a statement posted on its website, Texas Oncology officials said the company would not participate as an in-network provider for the Affordable Care Act.


This is a case of what we call in the business, "Blowing smoke out of your ass."

ACA is not a payor.. If single-payor was part of the ACA, they could do that perhaps. But since Healthcare.gov is only a clearinghouse and steers customers to a mandated plan offered by, say BCBS of TX, they would be subject to all the network policies of said BCBS of TX.

Unless they are going to be anal enough to ask every patient, "How did you get your insurance", and then refuse treatment. But that might work until the patients started calling BCBS of TX to complain, in which case they would come down on Texas Oncology and tell them, "See our patients with valid coverage, or we will cut you off and send you NOBODY."

They will comply quickly, if they want to stay in business.

Thank you Tri!



Indeed, thank you good sir!. :manly hug:

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/15/2013 15:35:49
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Mondo - Herschel is a total bad ass, Darryl is gonna be pissed, friggin creep Governor!



Yes. Yes. I know, right?


secretly I think Beth is going to be happy that her competition is gone, unless Darryl has a thing for Michonne



I think it is the other way around, Michonne has a thing for Darryl. Hence her trying to flirt with him.


That was Michonne flirting? Why am I unsettled by that? So have we killed off all of the Woodburians save for Tyrese, Sasha and the creepy little girls?



Because we have not seen Michonne smile at all until these past two weeks. We are used to her being the biggest bad ass on the show. Even more so the Darryl.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/15/2013 15:38:46
Question for you fine people. RWAs keep yammering about the cost healthcare.gov being $600 million dollars. WTF? That sounds like a bullshit number pulled out someones backside.

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 15:57:43
Quote by Mondobubba:
Question for you fine people. RWAs keep yammering about the cost healthcare.gov being $600 million dollars. WTF? That sounds like a bullshit number pulled out someones backside.
Here you go.


Comment by Mondobubba on 11/15/2013 16:00:32
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Question for you fine people. RWAs keep yammering about the cost healthcare.gov being $600 million dollars. WTF? That sounds like a bullshit number pulled out someones backside.
Here you go.



So, yes 600 million is a total bullshit figure. Thought so.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/15/2013 16:01:26
Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 16:07:16
This thread from yesterday almost deserves to be a blog post.



Comment by Scoopster on 11/15/2013 16:16:07
Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 16:26:23
Comment by clintster on 11/15/2013 16:28:52
I'm going to avoid stepping on a minefield here... I hope. I have to know, however, who here saw Jon Stewart's take on New York vs. Chicago pizza the other night?

(do I cut the red wire or the blue wire? *wipes away sweat*)

Comment by Scoopster on 11/15/2013 16:30:56
Quote by clintster:
I'm going to avoid stepping on a minefield here... I hope. I have to know, however, who here saw Jon Stewart's take on New York vs. Chicago pizza the other night?

(do I cut the red wire or the blue wire? *wipes away sweat*)

I'll defuse that easy - the answer is New Haven pizza!

Comment by wickedpam on 11/15/2013 16:37:46
wait! did they say Chris in Yankton on the phone?!

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 16:41:16
Quote by clintster:
I'm going to avoid stepping on a minefield here... I hope. I have to know, however, who here saw Jon Stewart's take on New York vs. Chicago pizza the other night?

(do I cut the red wire or the blue wire? *wipes away sweat*)




We need a gif of that old man.




Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 16:42:00
Quote by wickedpam:
wait! did they say Chris in Yankton on the phone?!
I don;t think Chris has a daughter. (if you are talkng about that last caller --


Comment by Mondobubba on 11/15/2013 17:04:29
Quote by clintster:
I'm going to avoid stepping on a minefield here... I hope. I have to know, however, who here saw Jon Stewart's take on New York vs. Chicago pizza the other night?

(do I cut the red wire or the blue wire? *wipes away sweat*)





Comment by wickedpam on 11/15/2013 17:12:43
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
wait! did they say Chris in Yankton on the phone?!
I don;t think Chris has a daughter. (if you are talkng about that last caller --


I don't know - they got all excited and were like "CHRIS!" talking to the caller not Chris.


Comment by livingonli on 11/15/2013 17:19:06
Good day, folks.

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2013 17:21:42
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks.
Good day, Liv.

How are you doing?


Comment by livingonli on 11/15/2013 17:25:09
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks.
Good day, Liv.

How are you doing?

It feels like my screwball work schedule make it increasingly difficult for me to have a life.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/15/2013 17:35:37
Mondo has just found out about this guy! Wow...


For extraordinary heroism against an armed enemy in the vicinity of Sommocolonia, Italy on 26 December 1944, while serving as a member of Cannon Company, 366th Infantry Regiment, 92d Infantry Division. During the preceding few weeks, Lieutenant Fox served with the 598th Field Artillery Battalion as a forward observer. On Christmas night, enemy soldiers gradually infiltrated the town of Sommocolonia in civilian clothes, and by early morning the town was largely in hostile hands. Commencing with a heavy barrage of enemy artillery at 0400 hours on 26 December 1944, an organized attack by uniformed German units began. Being greatly outnumbered, most of the United States Infantry forces were forced to withdraw from the town, but Lieutenant Fox and some other members of his observer party voluntarily remained on the second floor of a house to direct defensive artillery fire. At 0800 hours, Lieutenant Fox reported that the Germans were in the streets and attacking in strength. He then called for defensive artillery fire to slow the enemy advance. As the Germans continued to press the attack towards the area that Lieutenant Fox occupied, he adjusted the artillery fire closer to his position. Finally he was warned that the next adjustment would bring the deadly artillery right on top of his position. After acknowledging the danger, Lieutenant Fox insisted that the last adjustment be fired as this was the only way to defeat the attacking soldiers. Later, when a counterattack retook the position from the Germans, Lieutenant Fox's body was found with the bodies of approximately 100 German soldiers. Lieutenant Fox's gallant and courageous actions, at the supreme sacrifice of his own life, contributed greatly to delaying the enemy advance until other infantry and artillery units could reorganize to repel the attack. His extraordinary valorous actions were in keeping with the most cherished traditions of military service, and reflect the utmost credit on him, his unit, and the United States Army.


Comment by livingonli on 11/15/2013 17:36:41
The tough part is keeping a kitty inside the house when she wants to go out after she apparently got into a dispute with another critter outside and we're keeping her inside for her safety.

Comment by Mondobubba on 11/15/2013 17:37:22
Quote by Scoopster:
WHAT THE FUCK... You cannot even BEGIN to compare these two events.

I really did not need this level of anger today.



Joan Walsh responds.

Comment by TriSec on 11/15/2013 18:54:28
Oh, I SUCK!!!!!!

See now, the Troop is heading in the field tonight. I've been aware of this for weeks, but guess what I forgot to do?

Open blog tomorrow - who wants it?



Comment by clintster on 11/15/2013 19:10:36
The estrogen is strong with this one... I've started a Pinterest board.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/15/2013 19:26:25
Quote by clintster:
The estrogen is strong with this one... I've started a Pinterest board.



Watch out for all the Mormon Moms - they love Pintrest