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Author: TriSec    Date: 05/06/2008 10:45:22

Good Morning.

Today is our 1,875th day in Iraq.

We'll start as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4071
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3932
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3610
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3212
Since Election (1/31/05): 2634

Other Coalition Troops: 309
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 496


We find this morning's cost of war passing through: $ 517, 247, 975, 000 .00


Here at Ask a Vet, we often overlook Afghanistan in the glare of Iraq...but today we'll take a little closer look at this forgotten front.


We all know how succesful "The Surge" was in Iraq...so naturally the Pentagon can't wait to try it in Afghanistan.
WASHINGTON — The Pentagon is considering sending as many as 7,000 more American troops to Afghanistan next year to make up for a shortfall in contributions from NATO allies, senior Bush administration officials said.

Marines returned fire on Taliban positions on Friday in Helmand Province. The Pentagon is looking at plans to send up to 7,000 more troops to Afghanistan, to make up for a shortfall from NATO allies.

They said the step would push the number of American forces there to roughly 40,000, the highest level since the war began more than six years ago, and would require at least a modest reduction in troops from Iraq.

The planning began in recent weeks, reflecting a growing resignation to the fact that NATO is unable or unwilling to contribute more troops despite public pledges of an intensified effort in Afghanistan from the presidents and prime ministers who attended an alliance summit meeting in Bucharest, Romania, last month.

The shortfalls in troop commitments have cast doubt on claims by President Bush and his aides that NATO was stepping up to provide more help in Afghanistan, where the government of President Hamid Karzai faces a resurgent threat from the Taliban and remnants of Al Qaeda.

The increasing proportion of United States troops, from about half to about two-thirds of the foreign troops in Afghanistan, would be likely to result in what one senior administration official described as “the re-Americanization” of the war.

“There are simply going to be more American forces than we’ve ever had there,” said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was discussing future military planning.

A dozen NATO countries have pledged a total of about 2,000 troops, according to senior NATO officials, who provided the information on condition of anonymity according to standard diplomatic rules. Senior alliance commanders in Afghanistan have said they need about 10,000 more troops.

Only one country so far has actually begun preparing more troops to deploy: France, which is sending 700 to Afghanistan, NATO officials said.

Few of the additional troops are expected to arrive any time soon, the officials added.
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Of course, this jells nicely with Sen. John "Hundred Years War" McCain's future plans...but somebody has to fill those uniforms. Since we don't have a draft [yet], the army has to continually lower it's standards. Is this really the best way to run an army?
When it comes to recruiting troops, just how badly are things going? Well, that depends on how you define "bad."

If having a military sprinkled with felons sounds good to you, then things are going just fine.

But if the thought of sending folks who were convicted of crimes such as theft, drug offenses (other than ones involving marijuana) as well as those who have committed sex crimes, manslaughter and aggravated assault -- some with weapons -- to represent us in Iraq alarms you, brace yourself. You are living in alarming times.

Never mind that the military has also been granting waivers to recruits who haven't graduated from high school. According to The Associated Press, "the Army and Marine Corps brought in significantly more recruits with felony convictions last year than in 2006." While there's something to be said for a sentence served and the grace of redemption, violent ex-convicts (especially for sexual assault, given the high rate of rape and sexual harassment already suffered by female troops) shouldn't be armed and sent overseas.

Add those guys to the thugs employed by some of the security contractors representing the U.S. in Iraq and it's clear that we've given up even the appearance of military honor. And what a blow this is to the top-notch men and women who have dedicated their lives to serving their country. If recruiting felons is our only alternative to a mandatory draft, it's obvious that this war isn't seen as worth fighting by most -- hence the lack of quality recruits.

We couldn't "win" this war for all the oil in the Middle East, and admitting as much is not placing the blame on the troops -- it's placing the blame squarely on the shoulders of those who manufactured a false case for the invasion and occupation of a country that posed not one iota of threat to the U.S.

And we sure as heck can't win it with an exhausted army patched up with the criminal and the undereducated. This is yet another sign that we need to change the strategy in Iraq -- it's time for a gradual troop withdrawal.



Lastly this morning....I pay far too much attention to the big picture and the high-level things going on for our veterans. Not that that's a bad thing, but there are hundreds of local groups throughout America supporting the troops. A friend of mine recently handed me a business card for Operation American Soldier, based in neighboring Watertown, MA. Their premise is simple...'No soldier walks away from mail call empty-handed.'
Sometimes I wonder why I volunteered to serve this country. Our Commander-in-Chief has ordered us to Iraq or Afghanistan or some other remote country. For some of us, this is the first time we have been away from home. I've made some of the greatest friends I'll ever have, actually they are now my "family". We have shared some of the most interesting, wonderful and frightening moments you can imagine.

The best part of the day (or worst) is "Mail Call". Hearing from home, knowing that someone cares helps me continue day after day. It reinforces my commitment to keeping our country safe. But today, just like so many other days, my name isn't called. Remind me again, Why am I here?

Then a package arrives from someone I don't know. It's addressed to me! A box filled with letters of encouragement, food that is familiar and comforting, books, magazines and other fun stuff. You know what, people do care! We are not forgotten!

Operation American Soldier began when my daughter Tracy was in Iraq. After hearing that some of the other soldiers weren't receiving any support form home, we thought we should help. So we asked from some names and addresses to ship to. Each box contained a letter from us asking if there were any other soldiers that needs support. Well our list of soldiers grew and grew.

Eventually we thought we should ask the community to help us with this program. Sometimes the local newspaper will run a community note . Sometimes we will find boxes of goodies left at our front door. Once in a while we have a nice financial donation to help with the shipping costs. We have shipped to more than 500 soldiers, 9000+ pounds of cheer so far! We ship to Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines, we have shipped to Chaplains, The Red Cross. Combat Support Hospitals. Our packages have gone to Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo, and even Cuba

Our goal is simple. We will send packages and letters to as many soldiers as

possible, for as long as we can. We will try to bring a little bit of cheer and maybe a smile to the brave men & women that serve in harms way.


This is the group that took all the items the Cub Scout Pack collected over the holidays. Like the army, the "support the troops" movement also depends on 'boots on the ground'. If you can...seek out the veterans support groups in your area, and make sure they know who you are and why you give. All us liberals are Americans, too.



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Comment by velveeta jones on 05/06/2008 12:11:16
Morning all, just a quick 'in' before I go out to canvas for Obama. Yesterday was disappointing. They had me canvas in these very well-off neighborhoods, where I literally had to drive my car to go from house to house and up the long, winding driveways.



:thud:



When someone was home, rarely, it was mostly a maid or nanny. Or, in a few cases, stoned hippies.



So, I called the guy in charge and asked about the (name redacted) *black* 'hood. He said they had a hard time getting people in there? ..........What!?!







Velveeta and Aunt Azalea will be going in there today, offering rides and getting people to the polls.





Comment by velveeta jones on 05/06/2008 12:14:21
Oops, forgot to add: great post TriSec! I always tought we should have finished the job in Afghanistan.......... but hey, I'm no brain like George W. "Gilligan" Bush.



:rolleyes:



Carry on ................

Comment by right wing hater on 05/06/2008 12:45:29
Good Morning Everyone!



Daily Reading has been posted to News of the Day in Forum



Happy to report all links went through bellsouth/att today...so for now....looks like an isolated issue, but will keep everyone updated if the Police State crap starts up again...



Highlights of Daily:

10 tough questions for the candidates on oil & gas (how Big Oil is playing the country like a harp)

Obama has big lead in NC 51 to 37 and leads in 45 to 42 in IN (Zogby final poll)

The Republican Great Depression of the 2010s

BradBlog - 1.1 million voters 'purged' in Indiana's open primary courtesy of E-voting systems



And since we're on the war...he's a little something MAJOR for you to have the neocon apologists/right wingnuts/GOP magic bean buyers put in their 'support the troops' pipe and smoke:



GOP 'Supporting the Troops' Update: Post-War Suicides May Exceed Combat Deaths, U.S. Says - Link

The number of suicides among veterans of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan may exceed the combat death toll because of inadequate mental health care, the U.S. government's top psychiatric researcher said. Community mental health centers, hobbled by financial limits, haven't provided enough scientifically sound care, especially in rural areas.


Comment by m-hadley on 05/06/2008 12:59:50
Mornin' Everybody,

Today's my long day - 7:30am - 8pm - ugh! I'll be following along with the primary returns online from the ref desk :(

Happy Tuesday!

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 13:07:21
Good Morning everyone!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 13:07:54
Heya Faye!







Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 13:15:13
Is this thing on?



So I got this email a couple days ago that the AAP Daily was no more.. No idea what's going on because I really didn't go there very often anymore (for a certain reason)... I guess after the whole thing with Randi getting fired Air America took the final step into the abyss.



Oooh.. we have Youtube linkage here!

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 13:19:09
Quote by Scoopster:

Is this thing on?



So I got this email a couple days ago that the AAP Daily was no more.. No idea what's going on because I really didn't go there very often anymore (for a certain reason)... I guess after the whole thing with Randi getting fired Air America took the final step into the abyss.



Oooh.. we have Youtube linkage here!


Welcome aboard!!



oh, and Morning, folks... :coffee:

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 13:19:12
Quote by Scoopster:

Is this thing on?



So I got this email a couple days ago that the AAP Daily was no more.. No idea what's going on because I really didn't go there very often anymore (for a certain reason)... I guess after the whole thing with Randi getting fired Air America took the final step into the abyss.



Oooh.. we have Youtube linkage here!
HEYA SCOOP!



Welcome!



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 13:20:16
Scoopster in the house!





http://www.bonkworld.org/media/img/djbannon.jpg




Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 13:22:22
Heh.. that's pretty much me, only now I can say without the ciggy. I'm about to close out a month without a smoke.



So who else do we have here from the old crew?

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 13:24:32
Good morning everyone.



Another primary day. Stop the madness.

Hi Scoop. Glad you found the place. Now we have to get the few other AAP refugees over. I have been working on mgm without much success .

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 13:26:50
More than 3.5 Million new voters have registered so far!



Now we just NEED to get them out for the GE!

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 13:28:58
Quote by livingonli:

Another primary day. Stop the madness.


This primary season has had me I'm so tired of the garbage being thrown and almost none of it at these damn Repubs.

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 13:31:27
Steph will probably be on the pundit pit by the time I get home from work.

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 13:34:46
There are a few Robin Redbreasts outside my window.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 13:42:35
a month w/o ? Wow, very impressed there, Scoop!



I dunno if you knew this, but well, click This!!! :D

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 13:42:36
Scoopster's here but the blog is still on a slow start this morning.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 13:45:39
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by livingonli:

Another primary day. Stop the madness.


This primary season has had me I'm so tired of the garbage being thrown and almost none of it at these damn Repubs.
I am SO tired of it as well. I it ends today.







Comment by TriSec on 05/06/2008 13:46:12
Scoop! Ya finally made it!!!



:party:





Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 13:47:01
You also missed our DC meet-up we had the last weekend of April. But, there are pictures you can enjoy.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 13:51:41
Morning :hug:





Scoop! It's nice to see ya :D

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 13:51:42
John McCain chenneled his inner Woodrow wilson yesterday... Video that I can't embed is at the link...



HE said we need a 'League of Nations' to deal with Iran...







Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 13:51:49
Quote by livingonli:

Scoopster's here but the blog is still on a slow start this morning.


Gimme a little while to get back into my usual flow.. I'm a bit backed up here at work from some sick time the past couple weeks.



Dumbass I am I left my window open overnite and it got cold so I got this nasty cough (that's how the whole no smoking thing started).. well that got better but developed into a persistent cough and I thought my lungs were just clearin out 5 years of tar & nicotine.. went to the doctor and he was like "oh that's good that you quit smokin.. you have walking pneumonia."

Comment by m-hadley on 05/06/2008 13:53:08
Heya Scoop, Raine, BobR, VJ, RWH & Liv,

Welcome Scoopster - this here is the official radical miliant librarian of the SMS (faye from Tulsa). Good to have you here -

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by TriSec on 05/06/2008 13:54:01
Quote by Scoopster:

I really didn't go there very often anymore (for a certain reason)...




Surprising how many other posters we've heard a variation of this from...



:whistling:







Comment by m-hadley on 05/06/2008 13:54:37
Heya Mala & TriSec,

Didn't mean to ignore yous guys :hug:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 13:56:05
Heya Pam & nice to meetcha Faye! ...and damn Tri where the heck did you run off to?! I dropped into the old place a few times lookin for ya.. even managed to stay for a couple days before I got a lil' frustrated with how the chatter had kinda turned.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 13:57:28
Did you all hear that? Hillary basically said that SHE doesn't listen enough.. she is in WAshington, isn't she?

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 13:58:24
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Scoopster:

I really didn't go there very often anymore (for a certain reason)...




Surprising how many other posters we've heard a variation of this from...



:whistling:




Ohh.. hmm you know, I really don't wanna get into that. I get enough frustration trying to deal with it when I'm up/downrating comments at MyDD.



Comment by TriSec on 05/06/2008 14:00:54
Oh, I've been around. I hung out on UNN for a while last year, then we got this little corner of the internet all done up nice...



Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 14:02:07
Good morning faye and Mala. How is everyone today?

Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 14:03:47
Well, outside of a headache and having no coffee this morning all is fine.

Comment by MNRN on 05/06/2008 14:04:13
yo Scoop and all you lib-eral kidlets. The nurse is late this morning, and just zippin thru.....our credit card got hacked. By someone using it to pay their bills online.



How sad is that. Someone had to hack my card to pay their bills.

Yes I am pissed, I ain't no mutha teresa, but really. How low do people have to go.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:04:36
Quote by Scoopster:

Heya Pam & nice to meetcha Faye! ...and damn Tri where the heck did you run off to?! I dropped into the old place a few times lookin for ya.. even managed to stay for a couple days before I got a lil' frustrated with how the chatter had kinda turned.
I assume you got my email from yesterday...



We have a few wonderful newer people who are in our family now, Velveeta, who is out canvassing and giving rids to voters today in NC, JD from NY, Shane-o... Faye whom you have met... I know I am forgetting people... Oh, Right Wing HAter pops in here and there, he is a friend of ours that hails from over at C&L... MNRN has been seen and heard from...



HBK posts here every now and then... I talked to her last night, she says hello to everyone!



Izzy is here, :star:ling is here... Mondo (who will be thrilled to see you) is at work most likely... Lessee... I KNOW I am forgetting people, if I did! IT is still early!



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:06:08
Quote by MNRN:

yo Scoop and all you lib-eral kidlets. The nurse is late this morning, and just zippin thru.....our credit card got hacked. By someone using it to pay their bills online.



How sad is that. Someone had to hack my card to pay their bills.

Yes I am pissed, I ain't no mutha teresa, but really. How low do people have to go.
HEya MNRN.



Damn that sux! I hope you can get things back in order quickly!



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:07:52
OH! I HOPE we have a politics free hour today!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:08:47
HEY!!! That is OUR Bob!

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 14:09:21
Morning MNRN. That sucks with the credit card. Hopefully those charges can get scrubbed from your account.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:09:30
I know becuase I begged him (pathetically) to send it into the show!!

Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 14:09:40
Missed the interview but I thought it was Marylou Retton who was suppose to be in studio

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 14:10:44
MNRN, any luck getting ssg to join our little crew? She might be a little leery as a Hillary supporter, but she is more than welcome.



And then there's mgm.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 14:11:22
Quote by Raine:

HEY!!! That is OUR Bob!




Wait! I missed it!



Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 14:11:47
Hey MNRN!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:12:01
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/06/2008 14:12:20
morning!

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 14:12:29
Now Playing: Metallica / One

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 14:13:06
Good morning jd. You need some of this?

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:15:53
IT was a Grampy McCain drop... I don't where he his it in our audicons... when he get's in, I am sure he can find it!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:16:43
OMG, Sctuhperware! :unsure:

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 14:16:47
Schtuperware.

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 14:17:50
Quote by Raine:

IT was a Grampy McCain drop... I don't where he his it in our audicons... when he get's in, I am sure he can find it!


Which one?... They're both in the TV/Movie section...

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:18:57
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

IT was a Grampy McCain drop... I don't where he his it in our audicons... when he get's in, I am sure he can find it!


Which one?... They're both in the TV/Movie section...
The Kaiser one... I can't find it.



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:21:18




:rofl:



it's crack, man!







Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:22:38
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

Heya Pam & nice to meetcha Faye! ...and damn Tri where the heck did you run off to?! I dropped into the old place a few times lookin for ya.. even managed to stay for a couple days before I got a lil' frustrated with how the chatter had kinda turned.
I assume you got my email from yesterday...



We have a few wonderful newer people who are in our family now, Velveeta, who is out canvassing and giving rids to voters today in NC, JD from NY, Shane-o... Faye whom you have met... I know I am forgetting people... Oh, Right Wing HAter pops in here and there, he is a friend of ours that hails from over at C&L... MNRN has been seen and heard from...



HBK posts here every now and then... I talked to her last night, she says hello to everyone!



Izzy is here, :star:ling is here... Mondo (who will be thrilled to see you) is at work most likely... Lessee... I KNOW I am forgetting people, if I did! IT is still early!

OH! ShelaghC is here too!



Who has been missing lately!



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:24:16
Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/06/2008 14:24:22
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning jd. You need some of this?


no [confession]I don't drink coffee...[/confession]

I just got off the elliptical machine



Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/06/2008 14:25:04
Quote by Raine:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

IT was a Grampy McCain drop... I don't where he his it in our audicons... when he get's in, I am sure he can find it!


Which one?... They're both in the TV/Movie section...
The Kaiser one... I can't find it.



the "Dikkity" one



Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 14:26:24
I'm too sexy.

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 14:27:03
Quote by jd_in_ny:



the "Dikkity" one





Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 14:27:33
Quote by jd_in_ny:

Quote by livingonli:

Good morning jd. You need some of this?


no [confession]I don't drink coffee...[/confession]

I just got off the elliptical machine



I don't drink coffee either. I let nature wake me up and considering how late I work that's tricky.

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 14:27:58
Quote by livingonli:

I'm too sexy.


"riiiiight....", said Fred....

Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 14:30:35
Quote by Raine:

OH! ShelaghC is here too!



Who has been missing lately!







The job she's at right now won't let her stream or blog I think.



Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 14:30:58
Quote by BobR:

Quote by livingonli:

I'm too sexy.


"riiiiight....", said Fred....


I was just looking for an excuse to use the

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:31:39
Quote by BobR:

Quote by jd_in_ny:



the "Dikkity" one



:doh:



Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 14:31:53
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

OH! ShelaghC is here too!



Who has been missing lately!







The job she's at right now won't let her stream or blog I think.



Free the working bloggers. So she's in the same boat as Mondo.

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 14:34:24
Quote by livingonli:



I was just looking for an excuse to use the


And I was just looking for a reason to use a "Right Said Fred" joke... :peace:

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 14:37:09
I like it when Momma & The Mooks™ get all mature... :rolleyes:

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:37:54
You know what I think? I think we need a DNC logo in the Space availble spot on the bloggie.

Comment by Shane-O on 05/06/2008 14:40:09
Wow - it's been a while for this one...

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:41:27
I remember My phone Number when I was a kid.

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 14:42:09
Jim Ward:

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:43:02
I remember Darien Lake!

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 14:45:21
Quote by Raine:

I remember Darien Lake!


Was that near where your dad lived?

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:45:27
3,500 troops set to leave Iraq...



Somehow, I wonder after reading the Bloggie today, if those soldiers will be stop lossed and sent to the forgotten war front... <_<

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:47:26
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

I remember Darien Lake!


Was that near where your dad lived?
it was pretty far, I think.



Dad lives closer to Oswego. Kinda between there and Rachecha (Rochester)



Comment by Shane-O on 05/06/2008 14:47:59
Quote by Raine:

I know becuase I begged him (pathetically) to send it into the show!!


Bob - I think there's a lesson to be learned here... something about listening, or, I don't know, whatever...



... what were they saying?

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 14:49:10
That whole conversation about WOW! reminds me of a county around here that has 2 slogans.



Gwinnet is great



And



Success lives here



Scintillating!

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 14:54:24
Quote by Raine:

it was pretty far, I think.



Dad lives closer to Oswego. Kinda between there and Rachecha (Rochester)



Darien Lake (formerly Six Flags) - halfway between Rachacha and Buffalo...

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 14:54:54
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

I know becuase I begged him (pathetically) to send it into the show!!


Bob - I think there's a lesson to be learned here... something about listening, or, I don't know, whatever...



... what were they saying?


That's why communication is very important in a marriage.

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/06/2008 14:56:18
wait a minute - was Hillary saying we need to go back to the policies of the Cold War?

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 14:56:33
Quote by Raine:

That whole conversation about WOW! reminds me of a county around here that has 2 slogans.



Gwinnet is great



And



Success lives here



Scintillating!


Success lives here (but works in Atlanta...)



Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/06/2008 14:57:30
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

it was pretty far, I think.



Dad lives closer to Oswego. Kinda between there and Rachecha (Rochester)



Darien Lake (formerly Six Flags) - halfway between Rachacha and Buffalo...


...and formerly Darien Lake before that!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:01:18
Just got off the phone with Velveeta... She is holding signs and getting people to honk thier horns right now! (I heard them!!)



Soon she will be getting in the car with Aunt Azaelia and going the the other area of town to offer rides for people to the voting places! She said that there are tons of police over there, but she is going in anyway to get people to vote!



She says that in Asheville there are TONS of Obama signs all over the place, and very few Clinton signs...



NO McCAIN SIGNS.





LEt's give a round of applause for VJ and AA for doing their civic DUTY!

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 15:01:52
Quote by Raine:

You know what I think? I think we need a DNC logo in the Space availble spot on the bloggie.


Or we can just put this there..



http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5571/cthulhu4prezpreview5ot2.png




(Oh btw.. did I mention I've become a 4chan addict in the past year? :lol:)

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:03:26
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

I know becuase I begged him (pathetically) to send it into the show!!


Bob - I think there's a lesson to be learned here... something about listening, or, I don't know, whatever...



... what were they saying?


That's why communication is very important in a marriage.
Wha? Huh? dija say sumptin?



Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 15:04:43
Quote by Raine:

Just got off the phone with Velveeta... She is holding signs and getting people to honk thier horns right now! (I heard them!!)



Soon she will be getting in the car with Aunt Azaelia and going the the other area of town to offer rides for people to the voting places! She said that there are tons of police over there, but she is going in anyway to get people to vote!



She says that in Asheville there are TONS of Obama signs all over the place, and very few Clinton signs...



NO McCAIN SIGNS.





LEt's give a round of applause for VJ and AA for doing their civic DUTY!


:clap:

Comment by Shane-O on 05/06/2008 15:05:08
Quote by Raine:



She says that in Asheville there are TONS of Obama signs all over the place, and very few Clinton signs...



NO McCAIN SIGNS.




Few Clinton signs... maybe they ran out of money to print more after using it all to run negative ads?

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:05:32
Quote by jd_in_ny:

wait a minute - was Hillary saying we need to go back to the policies of the Cold War?


I was on the phone... Did she REALLY say that?



Oh come on. Please tell me she didn't allude to that. Please. Even if you must lie to me.

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 15:05:40
Quote by Raine:

Wha? Huh? dija say sumptin?



yes dear...

Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 15:05:50
Quote by Raine:

Just got off the phone with Velveeta... She is holding signs and getting people to honk thier horns right now! (I heard them!!)



Soon she will be getting in the car with Aunt Azaelia and going the the other area of town to offer rides for people to the voting places! She said that there are tons of police over there, but she is going in anyway to get people to vote!



She says that in Asheville there are TONS of Obama signs all over the place, and very few Clinton signs...



NO McCAIN SIGNS.





LEt's give a round of applause for VJ and AA for doing their civic DUTY!












I'm alittle concerned about the police thing though. Be careful out there.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:06:55
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

You know what I think? I think we need a DNC logo in the Space availble spot on the bloggie.


Or we can just put this there..



http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5571/cthulhu4prezpreview5ot2.png




(Oh btw.. did I mention I've become a 4chan addict in the past year? :lol:)
CAn I ask who this is?



I feel like an old fart here.



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:07:43
VJ said she is more worried about the Police than the area of town she is going to.



I must agree with her. BUT, I know she will be fine!

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 15:09:50
Quote by Raine:

Quote by jd_in_ny:

wait a minute - was Hillary saying we need to go back to the policies of the Cold War?


I was on the phone... Did she REALLY say that?



Oh come on. Please tell me she didn't allude to that. Please. Even if you must lie to me.


At this point, I've come to realize that we should expect her campaign to say or do anything to win, including completely destroying the Democratic Party and any chance it has to hold the Republicans out of the presidency. It's the kind of attitude and action that were she to win the nomination (which won't happen at this point without some major shenanigans) would drive me to vote for a third party candidate.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:10:04
Regarding the Gas Tax, Harry Reid said it won't be part of the energy bill they are putting forward this week.



And I must say, if she really believes in this, she needs to go BACK to dc and help push it thru.



But I do not think she will. John McCain has sponsored that bill since the beginning of time. In 2000, Bill Clinton said it was a bad idea as well.

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 15:10:30
Jared posted the link to the You Tube clip on the AAP blog a while back.



Whatever happened to him?

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:11:51
OF all the wonderful BEAVER stories. may I ask WHY is it ONLY georgia that has a BEAVER RUIN road?



Why does Georgia want to Ruin the beaver?

Comment by starling310 on 05/06/2008 15:12:41
Yes, there is a disease that makes ya smell like fish...it's called Bacterial Vaginosis.



: skates off :



Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 15:13:39
LOL - the only thing missing from that dog sound drop is the "pants made of ham" bit from A Mighty Wind

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:14:00
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Wha? Huh? dija say sumptin?



yes dear...
SEE Shane-o?



Communication... it is a wonderful thing!











:rofl:



Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 15:14:32
Morning :star:



You popped in and then you went into the penalty box.

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/06/2008 15:14:45
I might be oversensitive, but she was saying (re: Iran) that we have make sure they know we're prepared to do something like during the Cold War when all our weapons were pointed at "them" and all "their" weapons were pointed at us...

I went

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:15:17
Keelay My-know-guay!



Oh dear momma... snicker....

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 15:16:23
Quote by Raine:

OF all the wonderful BEAVER stories. may I ask WHY is it ONLY georgia that has a BEAVER RUIN road?



Why does Georgia want to Ruin the beaver?


The beaver (and its pursuit) has led many a man to ruin... :whistling:

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 15:17:18
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

You know what I think? I think we need a DNC logo in the Space availble spot on the bloggie.


Or we can just put this there..



cthulhu for president




(Oh btw.. did I mention I've become a 4chan addict in the past year? :lol:)
CAn I ask who this is?



I feel like an old fart here.



He's the best known of H.P. Lovecraft's literary "cult gods".. also an adopted symbol of some illuminati groups.

Comment by m-hadley on 05/06/2008 15:18:27
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:



She says that in Asheville there are TONS of Obama signs all over the place, and very few Clinton signs...



NO McCAIN SIGNS.




Few Clinton signs... maybe they ran out of money to print more after using it all to run negative ads?






Hi there everyone!

I am worried that if Hillary gets even close to Obama in NC (like Obama did with Hill in Penn) that she will declare victory and keep this insane endless primary going... Let's go Hoosiers - I hope that my home state makes me proud for once in my life :D

Cheers.

mfaye

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 15:19:28
It's almost 80 degrees here today.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 15:23:48
Quote by Raine:

Regarding the Gas Tax, Harry Reid said it won't be part of the energy bill they are putting forward this week.



And I must say, if she really believes in this, she needs to go BACK to dc and help push it thru.



But I do not think she will. John McCain has sponsored that bill since the beginning of time. In 2000, Bill Clinton said it was a bad idea as well.


It's a ridiculous idea. For one thing, it cuts off a revenue stream for the government at a time when we're running major deficits thanks to Bush's tax redistributions. Second, the last time I looked we're giving billions in subsidies to these oil companies at a time when they're milking the taxpayer dry with overspeculation, so why the HELL don't we cut those subsidies instead?! "Oh we can't do that 'cuz the price of gas will go up to 8 bucks a gallon" Then legislate that they can't raise the damn prices that much unless they want to pay massive windfall taxes.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:24:27
Quote by jd_in_ny:

I might be oversensitive, but she was saying (re: Iran) that we have make sure they know we're prepared to do something like during the Cold War when all our weapons were pointed at "them" and all "their" weapons were pointed at us...

I went
Well, that dovetails nicely, and SADLY to her her 'obliterate' comment.



Comment by Shane-O on 05/06/2008 15:25:19
Quote by Raine:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

Wha? Huh? dija say sumptin?



yes dear...
SEE Shane-o?



Communication... it is a wonderful thing!











:rofl:



Sorry, wasn't listening...



[ok, yes, I've dragged the "joke" on too long... ]



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:25:26
:banana: BRANDY :prince:

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:26:24
Fun!







Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 15:26:31
Fun?

Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 15:28:35
Ahhhh local amusment parks. I used to go to Dorney Park (where they filmed part of Hairspray years later)

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:28:46
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

OF all the wonderful BEAVER stories. may I ask WHY is it ONLY georgia that has a BEAVER RUIN road?



Why does Georgia want to Ruin the beaver?


The beaver (and its pursuit) has led many a man to ruin... :whistling:
Poor thing.. POOR thing!!!



:boobs2:



:rofl:



Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 15:28:59
blog mind-meld!

Comment by Shane-O on 05/06/2008 15:29:19
Should we send a NYS map to Chris? - the "Tri-State" area (NY, NJ, PA) is about 390 miles from Six Flags, Darien Lake...

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 15:29:55
These sound effects rock Bob!



Oooh hey that reminds me I've got a great one for ya.. lemme find the link...



Ah! Here it is! Paul Harvey's greatest V-Day ad!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:30:27
Quote by BobR:

Fun?


:beer:

Comment by Shane-O on 05/06/2008 15:31:34
Quote by BobR:

blog mind-meld!


Aww! - You guys complete each others' audicons!



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:32:58
Shane-o:







Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:34:55
Quote by Scoopster:

These sound effects rock Bob!



Oooh hey that reminds me I've got a great one for ya.. lemme find the link...



Ah! Here it is! Paul Harvey's greatest V-Day ad!




Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:40:22
Jenna getting married in CRAWFORD.



Look, as much as I despise this administration, It would have been nice for her to at least have the WH as a place to get married.



I know, I am ducking the bricks...



But cheez, she is the first family. They made her get married in CRAWFORD?!?!?!?





Comment by starling310 on 05/06/2008 15:41:20
He could just diffuse the issue by becoming a F*CKING sheep.



I am so sick of this primary.

I'm going back to the penalty box to drink. Wake me when it;s over.



Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/06/2008 15:41:23
If Obama put on a lapel pin he'd be accused of pandering. can't win cause it's a stupid, stupid non-issue.

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 15:41:34
Quote by Scoopster:

These sound effects rock Bob!



Oooh hey that reminds me I've got a great one for ya.. lemme find the link...



Ah! Here it is! Paul Harvey's greatest V-Day ad!


:rofl: :rofl:

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 15:44:25
Quote by starling310:

He could just diffuse the issue by becoming a F*CKING sheep.



I am so sick of this primary.

I'm going back to the penalty box to drink. Wake me when it;s over.



It'll be over soon hang in there!



Oh btw I'll join ya in a sec. I've taken quite a liking to Mr. Bacardi lately..

Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/06/2008 15:45:30
penalty box! I'm thinking margaritas, to make up for not drinking yesterday

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:46:55
Quote by jd_in_ny:

If Obama put on a lapel pin he'd be accused of pandering. can't win cause it's a stupid, stupid non-issue.
jd, why do you hate america? :rofl:

Did you not get the memo?

EVERYONEObama MUST wear the symbol of America, you know the one laden with lead and made in china.











Comment by Shane-O on 05/06/2008 15:47:58
Quote by Scoopster:

These sound effects rock Bob!



Oooh hey that reminds me I've got a great one for ya.. lemme find the link...



Ah! Here it is! Paul Harvey's greatest V-Day ad!






Please, I beg of someone, anyone - please remind me of where this is next February so I can turn it into an SM Drop???

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 15:48:48
Hmm.. actually a margarita sounds pretty damn good right now. And it'll fit with this AMAZING weather we're having today in New England.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:48:53
ABBA!

Comment by m-hadley on 05/06/2008 15:50:10
Quote by starling310:

He could just diffuse the issue by becoming a F*CKING sheep.



I am so sick of this primary.

I'm going back to the penalty box to drink. Wake me when it;s over.





Heya Starling!

May I join you in the penalty box? I'll bring the vitamin V :D

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 15:53:02
Quote by Raine:

Wilferd Brimley cats!






:rofl: :rofl:



Morning all. Scoop! Nice to see ya! : Jerry Sizzler: You prrrrrriiiiick!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:53:04
Quote by Scoopster:

Hmm.. actually a margarita sounds pretty damn good right now. And it'll fit with this AMAZING weather we're having today in New England.




you can find a good recipe or two here!



Feel free to add you own recipe!

Comment by Shane-O on 05/06/2008 15:53:06
Hillary = a Beta Fish? I like that unexpected segue!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:55:41
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Scoopster:

These sound effects rock Bob!



Oooh hey that reminds me I've got a great one for ya.. lemme find the link...



Ah! Here it is! Paul Harvey's greatest V-Day ad!






Please, I beg of someone, anyone - please remind me of where this is next February so I can turn it into an SM Drop???
BobR can store this in our seasonal section, and it will be there!



And we will remind you Shane-o!



Comment by starling310 on 05/06/2008 15:55:58
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

He could just diffuse the issue by becoming a F*CKING sheep.



I am so sick of this primary.

I'm going back to the penalty box to drink. Wake me when it;s over.





Heya Starling!May I join you in the penalty box? I'll bring the vitamin V :D

Cheers,

mfaye





There is plenty of room in the penalty box waiting room.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 15:57:19
Matt Taibbi ... him.



I got my RS right here!(really!)

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 15:58:45
Quote by starling310:

Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

He could just diffuse the issue by becoming a F*CKING sheep.



I am so sick of this primary.

I'm going back to the penalty box to drink. Wake me when it;s over.





Heya Starling!May I join you in the penalty box? I'll bring the vitamin V :D

Cheers,

mfayer





There is plenty of room in the penalty box waiting room.




:star:ling my love. How have you been? Its has been waay too long since I have gazed deeply into your eyes!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 16:00:01
Quote by Shane-O:

Hillary = a Beta Fish? I like that unexpected segue!
OOh dear, that is unfortunate symbolism.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 16:00:48
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Wilferd Brimley cats!






:rofl: :rofl:



Morning all. Scoop! Nice to see ya! : Jerry Sizzler: You prrrrrriiiiick!


MONDO! What's goin on?!

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 16:03:49
Quote by Raine:

BobR can store this in our seasonal section, and it will be there!



And we will remind you Shane-o!



Done!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 16:04:51
Can I trust that if Hillary wins she will carry on the Democratic platform?



This is a real concern for me.



I WANT to vote for a dem in december. Oh f*ck it. I am going to the penalty box!!! HAH!



Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 16:05:00
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Wilferd Brimley cats!






:rofl: :rofl:



Morning all. Scoop! Nice to see ya! : Jerry Sizzler: You prrrrrriiiiick!


MONDO! What's goin on?!




Hatin' my job, looking for a new one. I'm at home today watching LAPD on the Fox reality channel until King of the Hill comes on. You know the usual stuff. Brother Mondo and I are denigrating the sworn personal of the LAPD as we watch.

Comment by starling310 on 05/06/2008 16:05:59
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

He could just diffuse the issue by becoming a F*CKING sheep.



I am so sick of this primary.

I'm going back to the penalty box to drink. Wake me when it;s over.





Heya Starling!May I join you in the penalty box? I'll bring the vitamin V :D

Cheers,

mfayer





There is plenty of room in the penalty box waiting room.




:star:ling my love. How have you been? Its has been waay too long since I have gazed deeply into your eyes!






I've been busy...

Interferes with Bloggie.



Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 16:07:27
Quote by Raine:

Can I trust that if Hillary wins she will carry on the Democratic platform?



This is a real concern for me.



I WANT to vote for a dem in december. Oh f*ck it. I am going to the penalty box!!! HAH!





Psst Raine, honey. If you vote in DECEMBER you will be the only one who does. The election is in November.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 16:08:44
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

BobR can store this in our seasonal section, and it will be there!



And we will remind you Shane-o!



Done!
:rofl:





I love that !

Listening to Thom:

Gooseoulini!



Congrats! :clap:



Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 16:09:03
Quote by Shane-O:

Hillary = a Beta Fish? I like that unexpected segue!


More like a beta-radiated fish I'd say..

http://gothamist.com/attachments/science_kapil/2006_9_health_fish.jpg


Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 16:09:41
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

He could just diffuse the issue by becoming a F*CKING sheep.



I am so sick of this primary.

I'm going back to the penalty box to drink. Wake me when it;s over.





Heya Starling!May I join you in the penalty box? I'll bring the vitamin V :D

Cheers,

mfayer





There is plenty of room in the penalty box waiting room.




:star:ling my love. How have you been? Its has been waay too long since I have gazed deeply into your eyes!






I've been busy...

Interferes with Bloggie.





Oh that is shame. We miss your wit and class. You ad Dorothy Parker patina to the bloggie.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 16:11:26
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Can I trust that if Hillary wins she will carry on the Democratic platform?



This is a real concern for me.



I WANT to vote for a dem in december. Oh f*ck it. I am going to the penalty box!!! HAH!





Psst Raine, honey. If you vote in DECEMBER you will be the only one who does. The election is in November.
:doh:



:rofl:



I am such a blonde! (really I am) ]



WTH? Was I thinking 2000? was this a scary Freudian slip? :shudder:



Comment by starling310 on 05/06/2008 16:19:05
Thanks Mondo!



Dorothy Parker. Nice.



Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/06/2008 16:19:39
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Can I trust that if Hillary wins she will carry on the Democratic platform?



This is a real concern for me.



I WANT to vote for a dem in december. Oh f*ck it. I am going to the penalty box!!! HAH!





Psst Raine, honey. If you vote in DECEMBER you will be the only one who does. The election is in November.
:doh:



:rofl:



I am such a blonde! (really I am) ]



WTH? Was I thinking 2000? was this a scary Freudian slip? :shudder:



subliminal training by the republicans - ya gotta watch out for that

Comment by Shane-O on 05/06/2008 16:21:25
Ok - I gotta go do some actual work for a while... Please - have a great day, all of you!!



Final thoughts:

Indiana - Clinton 53%, Obama 47%

North Carolina - Obama 54%, Clinton 46%



Be well - and see you all later!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 16:22:19
One economist for Clinton Tax Holiday...



And says, it is pointless.



I meant it to be a bit of "damning through faint praise." My criteria for good public policy is that it be well out of the neighborhood of "pointless." Still, I'll bet others would agree that the consumer might benefit a few cents, but I think it is safe to say that we stand firm in agreement that this is a bad, bad idea.




Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 16:24:06
Have fun in the salt mine Shane-O.



I am watching Banana Splits on Boomerang.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 16:25:16
Quote by jd_in_ny:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Can I trust that if Hillary wins she will carry on the Democratic platform?



This is a real concern for me.



I WANT to vote for a dem in december. Oh f*ck it. I am going to the penalty box!!! HAH!





Psst Raine, honey. If you vote in DECEMBER you will be the only one who does. The election is in November.
:doh:



:rofl:



I am such a blonde! (really I am)



WTH? Was I thinking 2000? was this a scary Freudian slip? :shudder:



subliminal training by the republicans - ya gotta watch out for that
GAK! I feel Dirty!



::: runs to shower off that crap :::



Comment by starling310 on 05/06/2008 16:25:36
I really have to send Thom my "This is what a feminist looks like" shirt.



Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 16:28:17
Raine, has Scoop been briefed on all the latest catch phrases? Like "two more hours" or "go away, I'm batin''?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 16:31:28
Quote by starling310:

Thanks Mondo!



Dorothy Parker. Nice.







: scuffs toe on carpet, eye downwards: Your welcome Miz Star!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 16:31:36
Quote by Mondobubba:

Raine, has Scoop been briefed on all the latest catch phrases? Like "two more hours" or "go away, I'm batin''?
no briefing has been done.



Comment by m-hadley on 05/06/2008 16:31:46
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

He could just diffuse the issue by becoming a F*CKING sheep.



I am so sick of this primary.

I'm going back to the penalty box to drink. Wake me when it;s over.





Heya Starling!May I join you in the penalty box? I'll bring the vitamin V :D

Cheers,

mfayer





There is plenty of room in the penalty box waiting room.




:star:ling my love. How have you been? Its has been waay too long since I have gazed deeply into your eyes!






I've been busy...

Interferes with Bloggie.





Oh that is shame. We miss your wit and class. You ad Dorothy Parker patina to the bloggie.






"You can lead a whore to water, but you can't make her think." Ah, they don't make 'em like Dorothy Parker anymore. Such a mahvelous wit :D

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 16:33:08
Quote by Mondobubba:

Raine, has Scoop been briefed on all the latest catch phrases? Like "two more hours" or "go away, I'm batin''?




2 Hours!



Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 16:33:25
Quote by Mondobubba:

Raine, has Scoop been briefed on all the latest catch phrases? Like "two more hours" or "go away, I'm batin''?


Nope. No one did. You want to school him?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 16:36:09
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Raine, has Scoop been briefed on all the latest catch phrases? Like "two more hours" or "go away, I'm batin''?
no briefing has been done.







There is alway this one



http://www.tiftontourism.com/images/thinktifton.jpg




EXIT NOW!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 16:39:33
FAYE!!!





Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 16:39:37
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Raine, has Scoop been briefed on all the latest catch phrases? Like "two more hours" or "go away, I'm batin''?




2 Hours!





Mala! I'm resurecting my presidential campaign. Will you be my campaign manager. You have a proven ability to heard cats :D



Raine, I am going to make you my chief strategist.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 16:42:34
Ohh my favorite part of "The Untouchables!" DiNiero is about to beat a guy to death with a baseball bat at the formal dinner. I :heart the crane shot going away from the table!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 16:43:25
MONDO...



you do not need to resurrect anything. It was simply a campaign suspension. It is now unsuspended.



:D

Sincerley,

Raine

Campaign Strategist.









Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 16:45:38
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Raine, has Scoop been briefed on all the latest catch phrases? Like "two more hours" or "go away, I'm batin''?




2 Hours!





Mala! I'm resurecting my presidential campaign. Will you be my campaign manager. You have a proven ability to heard cats :D



Raine, I am going to make you my chief strategist.






I'm a worrier that's why. Have to do a head check and make sure everyone is together and safe.



and we're walking, we're walking.....



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 16:46:26
Hi Stan!!!

























:rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 16:47:34


Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 16:48:38
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Raine, has Scoop been briefed on all the latest catch phrases? Like "two more hours" or "go away, I'm batin''?




2 Hours!





Mala! I'm resurecting my presidential campaign. Will you be my campaign manager. You have a proven ability to heard cats :D



Raine, I am going to make you my chief strategist.






I'm a worrier that's why. Have to do a head check and make sure everyone is together and safe.



and we're walking, we're walking.....

:rofl:



OMG... you did that getting people out of a frikkin' hotel room!!



You are perfect for the job!



Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 16:52:13
Quote by Raine:

Hi Stan!!!

























:rofl:


You think that will convince him to start posting.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 16:52:14
Quote by Raine:

MONDO...



you do not need to resurrect anything. It was simply a campaign suspension. It is now unsuspended.



:D

Sincerley,

Raine

Campaign Strategist.











If I had the money for 'uge salaries, yours would be the 'ugest!



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 16:54:18
Mondo... dahlink.. I need your manifesto platform. Yes, again. :P



I am all about stategery. I can justify ANYTHING in this world,







except that guy from Sweden. he needs to be thinned from the herd.

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 16:59:25
Quote by Raine:

Mondo... dahlink.. I need your manifesto platform. Yes, again. :P



I am all about stategery. I can justify ANYTHING in this world,







except that guy from Sweden. he needs to be thinned from the herd.


Hey, what's wront with Sweden? :poke:



They got that wonderful mixed economy with free health care and they are not involved in wars.



And then there are the things I have heard about Swedish women.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 17:00:08
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Hi Stan!!!

























:rofl:


You think that will convince him to start posting.
No, if anything, will make him ask to see the :::Joe Biden voice::: 'Real deal'



to which I will say....



::Joe Biden :: No







Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 17:03:58
Quote by Raine:

Mondo... dahlink.. I need your manifesto platform. Yes, again. :P



I am all about stategery. I can justify ANYTHING in this world,







except that guy from Sweden. he needs to be thinned from the herd.




Universal heathcare

Taxing the crap out of the wealthy.

Drafting Paris Hilton and sending her bony ass to Anbar

An imidiant investigation into collusion, speculation and price fixing in the energy markets

The arrest trial & conviction of George Bush, Dick Cheney, Condaleeza Rice and Paul Wolfawitz for war crimes.

The public humiliation of Grover Norquist



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 17:04:17
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Mondo... dahlink.. I need your manifesto platform. Yes, again. :P



I am all about stategery. I can justify ANYTHING in this world,







except that guy from Sweden. he needs to be thinned from the herd.


Hey, what's wront with Sweden? :poke:



They got that wonderful mixed economy with free health care and they are not involved in wars.



And then there are the things I have heard about Swedish women.
OMG! my apologies to SWEDEN!



I meant Austria.



That disgusting excuse for a human being was from AUSTRIA.



(I think I just lost my gig .... )



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 17:07:31
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Mondo... dahlink.. I need your manifesto platform. Yes, again. :P



I am all about stategery. I can justify ANYTHING in this world,







except that guy from Sweden. he needs to be thinned from the herd.




Universal heathcare

Taxing the crap out of the wealthy.

Drafting Paris Hilton and sending her bony ass to Anbar

An imidiant investigation into collusion, speculation and price fixing in the energy markets

The arrest trial & conviction of George Bush, Dick Cheney, Condaleeza Rice and Paul Wolfawitz for war crimes.

The public humiliation of Grover Norquist

OK, this I can do.







Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 17:09:44
Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Mondo... dahlink.. I need your manifesto platform. Yes, again. :P



I am all about stategery. I can justify ANYTHING in this world,







except that guy from Sweden. he needs to be thinned from the herd.


Hey, what's wront with Sweden? :poke:



They got that wonderful mixed economy with free health care and they are not involved in wars.



And then there are the things I have heard about Swedish women.
OMG! my apologies to SWEDEN!



I meant Austria.



That disgusting excuse for a human being was from AUSTRIA.



(I think I just lost my gig .... )





: Sgt Schultz: I saw nothing! I read nothing! I heard nothing!

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 17:17:19
ohh forgot, restoration haebus corpus & the fourth amendment.

Dismanteling the Total Information Awareness Program.

A total halt to all illegal wire tapping





Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 17:19:59
Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Mondo... dahlink.. I need your manifesto platform. Yes, again. :P



I am all about stategery. I can justify ANYTHING in this world,







except that guy from Sweden. he needs to be thinned from the herd.


Hey, what's wront with Sweden? :poke:



They got that wonderful mixed economy with free health care and they are not involved in wars.



And then there are the things I have heard about Swedish women.
OMG! my apologies to SWEDEN!



I meant Austria.



That disgusting excuse for a human being was from AUSTRIA.



(I think I just lost my gig .... )



I guess you mean the Austrian Perv who locked up and knocked up his daughter for 24 years. That's a guy who needs his balls cut off.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 17:23:56
I have a new bumper sticker!



Doing My Part to Piss Off The Religious Right


Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 17:35:13
Quote by Mondobubba:

ohh forgot, restoration haebus corpus & the fourth amendment.

Dismanteling the Total Information Awareness Program.

A total halt to all illegal wire tapping



I knew you said that before you typed it... I did. The NSA told me! :rofl:



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 17:41:52
Does the name Bloch sound familair?





The FBI is searching the office of Special Council....



A multi-year investigation leads federal agents to search the Office of Special Counsel's building. Employees have alleged the agency was misused for political purposes.



Neither Office of Special Counsel head Scott Bloch nor anyone else has officially been charged with a crime. But the FBI secured a separate subpoena for Bloch's home.



According to an article from The Wall Street Journal from last year, Bloch used a private tech company — Geeks on Call — to delete e-mails instead of using his office's federal technicians.



The Office of Special Counsel is in charge of investigating whistleblower complaints by federal employees. Late this morning, the entire office's email system was shut down — a fact that the San Francisco field office confirmed.




Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 17:47:31
Quote by Raine:

::Joe Biden :: No







Hmmm... mixed message there missy....

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 17:47:35
More details from wiki, about Bloch:



And this from WSJ

FBI Agents Raid Work, Home Of Special Counsel's Bloch



WASHINGTON -- Federal Bureau of Investigation agents raided the Office of Special Counsel here, seizing computers and documents belonging to the agency chief Scott Bloch and staff.



More than a dozen FBI agents served grand jury subpoenas shortly after 10 a.m., shutting down the agency's computer network and searching its offices, as well as Mr. Bloch's home. Employees said the searches appeared focused on alleged obstruction of justice by Mr. Bloch during the course of an 2006 inquiry into his conduct in ...




:thud: this is a biggie I think.







Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 17:52:10
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

::Joe Biden :: No







Hmmm... mixed message there missy....
I am just the campaign stategist. Don't make make this about me.



We need to focus on the issues.



Habeus Corpus! 4th Amendment! Universal healthcare! Green energy! (I added that, mondo, we need a strategery meeting)



We must not be distracted from the politics of the past!!!



Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 18:00:39
Oh, along with Paris Hilton Lindsey Lohan, Brittany and any other celebutard I can think off will be drafted and sent to Iraq or Afganistan. We will have an entire battalion of 'em! Jenna and Barbara Bush will be sent too.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 18:04:33
Quote by Raine:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

::Joe Biden :: No







Hmmm... mixed message there missy....
I am just the campaign stategist. Don't make make this about me.



We need to focus on the issues.



Habeus Corpus! 4th Amendment! Universal healthcare! Green energy! (I added that, mondo, we need a strategery meeting)



We must not be distracted from the politics of the past!!!





Drafting celebutards!

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/06/2008 18:26:08
Whew. Just popping in real quick for lunch, then back out, then to work. I did end up seeing one Hillary sign, she was standing on the corner. Hard to see her sign,............through the THREE OTHER OBAMA SIGNS SURROUNDING HER!



:rofl:



Anywho. Ya'll are all invited to a PARTY! Tonight 11pm EST, if Obama wins NC (He will) to celebrate. BYOB and toast his victory and onward to the General Election!



:clap:





Comment by velveeta jones on 05/06/2008 18:34:22
Oh welcome Scoopster.



Velveeta, as Raine, Bob and Liv can attest, is a demure Southern Belle.



http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/figuren/e025.gif


Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 18:39:33
Velveeta, would you want us partying at your place? Did you see the photos?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 18:44:12
Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh welcome Scoopster.



Velveeta, as Raine, Bob and Liv can attest, is a demure Southern Belle.



http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/figuren/e025.gif




What about Mondo??? Hmmmm? Am I chopped liver??? :taps foot impatiently:

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 18:44:42
Quote by velveeta jones:

Whew. Just popping in real quick for lunch, then back out, then to work. I did end up seeing one Hillary sign, she was standing on the corner. Hard to see her sign,............through the THREE OTHER OBAMA SIGNS SURROUNDING HER!



:rofl:



Anywho. Ya'll are all invited to a PARTY! Tonight 11pm EST, if Obama wins NC (He will) to celebrate. BYOB and toast his victory and onward to the General Election!



:clap:



Well if I can make it out of Dynamis by then, I'll be sure to join ya.



...and why thank you for that most warm welcome, Miss Jones. *bow*

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 19:06:14
Time to head off to the salt mine. I will probably be listening to Maron. I hope some of the characters show up for the program.

Comment by TriSec on 05/06/2008 19:06:44
TriSec fails to reach the blog bar in time...



http://twistedphysics.typepad.com/cocktail_party_physics/images/2007/05/31/tollund.jpg


Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 19:12:58
holy crap! :sprint:



That just scared the snot out of me!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 19:18:35
Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh welcome Scoopster.



Velveeta, as Raine, Bob and Liv can attest, is a demure Southern Belle.



http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/figuren/e025.gif






She is.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 19:27:38
Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh welcome Scoopster.



Velveeta, as Raine, Bob and Liv can attest, is a demure Southern Belle.



http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/figuren/e025.gif






She is.




Hello, I'm Maddonna



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 19:29:04
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh welcome Scoopster.



Velveeta, as Raine, Bob and Liv can attest, is a demure Southern Belle.



http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/figuren/e025.gif




What about Mondo??? Hmmmm? Am I chopped liver??? :taps foot impatiently:
there, there...you are demure as well... :P



Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 19:31:39
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh welcome Scoopster.



Velveeta, as Raine, Bob and Liv can attest, is a demure Southern Belle.



http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/figuren/e025.gif






She is.




Hello, I'm Maddonna

:clap: nice.



Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 19:31:49
Guess what - we had an earthquake at 1:30 today. I thought maybe a big truck went by but some of the warehouse guys felt it too so I check USGS and low and behold there was a 1.8 quake epicenter Annadale which is only about 2mile from here. This is the second quake we've had since we moved into this building. It's just weird.

Comment by AZ-Turq on 05/06/2008 19:35:19
Anyone know what happened to the Air America podcast archives?

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 19:35:30
Quote by wickedpam:

holy crap! :sprint:



That just scared the snot out of me!


:irish accent: Alas poor Tri. A Man in need of a scurvy-tini gave it his very best to reach the bar. but twas not meant to be... All hail Sir Tri!

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 19:40:36
Quote by AZ-Turq:

Anyone know what happened to the Air America podcast archives?


Air America Radio took the archives back from Air America Place. What they are doing with them now, I do not know know. I have been trying to follow that story over at AAP (who used to house them) and none of the staff seems to have an answer about where people can access the archives anymore.



I suspect they may be deep sixing them. Sad.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 19:42:56
Quote by wickedpam:

Guess what - we had an earthquake at 1:30 today. I thought maybe a big truck went by but some of the warehouse guys felt it too so I check USGS and low and behold there was a 1.8 quake epicenter Annadale which is only about 2mile from here. This is the second quake we've had since we moved into this building. It's just weird.


EEP!



Glad it wasn't very bad

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 19:45:05
I sense Randi is going to lose it with callers today...

Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 19:45:49
Supposidly there are a couple of fault lines that run threw this area, seems like they've started to get more active of late.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 19:47:27
Here we go. caller not really listening. 9.2 is NOT a double digit lead. She is making a lot of sense about the amount that Hillary needs to win.

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 19:50:01
Quote by wickedpam:

Supposidly there are a couple of fault lines that run threw this area, seems like they've started to get more active of late.


The biggest fault line runs through the White House if you get my drift (and no, I'm not talking plate tectonic continental drift...)

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 19:50:09
Hillary said



How about ALL the other things that were said? I am with Randi on this one. Sorry if that pisses people off.





Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 19:52:59
Quote by Raine:

I sense Randi is going to lose it with callers today...




Which is why I switched over to the Mike O'Meara show. It's local not political but the host and the news guy dabble (they're for Obama)



Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 19:53:54
Quote by Raine:

Here we go. caller not really listening. 9.2 is NOT a double digit lead. She is making a lot of sense about the amount that Hillary needs to win.


9.5 was a double digit lead when Hillary won Pennsylvania, at least according to the corporate media..

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 19:54:26
Ohh Raine, did you get the flip flops?

Comment by right wing hater on 05/06/2008 19:55:14
Hey Everyone,



Just checking in for a quick moment...



Gwinnett County Democrats are having their monthly breakfast this saturday and they will have all 5 of the Senate Democratic challengers running against Saxby "I'm just another do nothing Bubba empty suit" Chambliss this November speaking to the attendees. If Laina (wife) and I can make it....we'll have a brief report for those of you living in this Republican dominated state...



Right now, we really like Rand Knight, he's young and a big time proponent of alternative/sustainable energy



Here are the candidates:

Dale Cardwell

Vernon Jones

Rand Knight

Josh Lanier

Jim Martin



Remember July 15th isn't that far away....here's hoping one of these gentlemen can overtake Chambliss or at least give him a run for his money

Comment by Scoopster on 05/06/2008 20:04:22
He's got a helluva name too - Rand Knight! Vaguely reminds me of a character from the third season of Robotech (yikes obscure anime reference!)

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 20:12:35
Quote by Scoopster:



9.5 was a double digit lead when Hillary won Pennsylvania, at least according to the corporate media..


Wow - and 9.52 would be a THREE digit lead. :rolleyes2:



Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 20:13:32
Ahh those wacky deputies from the Reno Sheriff's department. :rofl:

Comment by AZ-Turq on 05/06/2008 20:13:54
Quote by Raine:

Quote by AZ-Turq:

Anyone know what happened to the Air America podcast archives?


Air America Radio took the archives back from Air America Place. What they are doing with them now, I do not know know. I have been trying to follow that story over at AAP (who used to house them) and none of the staff seems to have an answer about where people can access the archives anymore.



I suspect they may be deep sixing them. Sad.




Think I still have all the Morning Sedition podcasts stored on an external hard drive

Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 20:13:57
Quote by Mondobubba:

Ohh Raine, did you get the flip flops?




Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 20:20:11
Anyone listening to Marc Maron? He had Robert Reich which I was listening to as I drive in to work while navigating the crappy WWRL signal.

Comment by AZ-Turq on 05/06/2008 20:25:59
Quote by livingonli:

Anyone listening to Marc Maron? He had Robert Reich which I was listening to as I drive in to work while navigating the crappy WWRL signal.




I'm trying but my stream keeps cutting out

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 20:29:32
I heard there were problems with the stream yesterday when Sam was on. You could try WCPT-Chicago's stream or WWRL-New York's stream since they both broadcast the show.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/06/2008 20:31:21
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Ohh Raine, did you get the flip flops?






Excellent! : hunches:

Comment by TriSec on 05/06/2008 20:35:40
And today's "What a Genius!" award goes to the fine gentleman from Copiegue, NY...



A Long Island man who flipped his finger at a police cruiser and then popped a wheelie on his motorcycle is recovering from injuries after crashing.

more stories like this



Suffolk County Police said Frank Patti, 26, of West Islip, rode by the police car at a service station in Copiague at 7:30 p.m. Sunday. Police say Patti made an obscene gesture to two officers in the car, popped a wheelie and then sped away.



Police gave chase.



When the motorcycle turned into a parking lot it crashed into a police car that had joined the chase.




Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 20:37:36
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Ohh Raine, did you get the flip flops?


Hangs head in a lil shame... I drove Bobber a little nuts with that ebay auction.... I cannot wait for the shoes to arrive!



you see I bought these shoes back in '05. and I lost one somewhere in the move to the ATL.



These were and still are the BEST flip flops I ever owned. EVER. So wonderful I could not throw away the one single shoe I had. I kept hoping it would reappear.



And then upon the suggestion of BobR I wen tlooking, and found a pair, EXACT SIZE and COLOUR for sale on ebay.



And soon they will be in my hands. All is right with the world.



Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 20:45:26
Quote by TriSec:

And today's "What a Genius!" award goes to the fine gentleman from Copiegue, NY...



A Long Island man who flipped his finger at a police cruiser and then popped a wheelie on his motorcycle is recovering from injuries after crashing.

more stories like this



Suffolk County Police said Frank Patti, 26, of West Islip, rode by the police car at a service station in Copiague at 7:30 p.m. Sunday. Police say Patti made an obscene gesture to two officers in the car, popped a wheelie and then sped away.



Police gave chase.



When the motorcycle turned into a parking lot it crashed into a police car that had joined the chase.




The correct spelling is Copaigue.



Being a Long Islander I see so many idiots on the road doing things that they shouldn't and sometimes I do wish that something ironic would happen to them or at least they would get busted by the cops so I could laugh at them.

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 20:50:51
Quote by right wing hater:

Hey Everyone,



Just checking in for a quick moment...



Gwinnett County Democrats are having their monthly breakfast this saturday and they will have all 5 of the Senate Democratic challengers running against Saxby "I'm just another do nothing Bubba empty suit" Chambliss this November speaking to the attendees. If Laina (wife) and I can make it....we'll have a brief report for those of you living in this Republican dominated state...



Right now, we really like Rand Knight, he's young and a big time proponent of alternative/sustainable energy



Here are the candidates:

Dale Cardwell

Vernon Jones

Rand Knight

Josh Lanier

Jim Martin



Remember July 15th isn't that far away....here's hoping one of these gentlemen can overtake Chambliss or at least give him a run for his money
oooOOOH! My dad is coming into town, otherwise I would LOVE to be there! I am leaning towards Jim Martin.



Did I tell you we may be going to a meet and greet with our representative....



JOHN LEWIS?!?!?!



BTW, as a side note, things are looking pretty good for Georgia when it comes to the house this year...



They are putting up a LOT of Vet's against these chicken hawk repubs.



Great read even for those NOT in the area.



if this is an indicator, we are going to have a VETO proof majority in DC! Forget the State house tho... that seems to be a lost cause.







Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 20:55:46
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by TriSec:

And today's "What a Genius!" award goes to the fine gentleman from Copiegue, NY...



A Long Island man who flipped his finger at a police cruiser and then popped a wheelie on his motorcycle is recovering from injuries after crashing.

more stories like this



Suffolk County Police said Frank Patti, 26, of West Islip, rode by the police car at a service station in Copiague at 7:30 p.m. Sunday. Police say Patti made an obscene gesture to two officers in the car, popped a wheelie and then sped away.



Police gave chase.



When the motorcycle turned into a parking lot it crashed into a police car that had joined the chase.




The correct spelling is Copaigue.



Being a Long Islander I see so many idiots on the road doing things that they shouldn't and sometimes I do wish that something ironic would happen to them or at least they would get busted by the cops so I could laugh at them.
huh...if I recall correct there is also 'copake'... right?



Comment by wickedpam on 05/06/2008 21:11:10


Arrest in punching of Six Flags' camel



I don't get people sometimes

Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 21:23:55
Quote by Raine:

huh...if I recall correct there is also 'copake'... right?



That would be how it's pronounced but not the spelling.



I just double-checked and the correct spelling is Copiague. It is an odd spelling but living regrets the error.





Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 21:34:19
My bad, I was thinking there was a Copake on Long Island... there IS however one upstate.



They are both pronounced the same way.



I should be the one with the





Comment by livingonli on 05/06/2008 21:35:55
How much free time do people have? There is a Wikipedia article on the Valley Stream LIRR station

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 21:36:30
Quote by wickedpam:



Arrest in punching of Six Flags' camel



I don't get people sometimes
These are the people who we should be VERY afraid of.



Comment by BobR on 05/06/2008 22:13:19
Quote by Raine:

These are the people who we should be VERY afraid of.



Hello Idiocracy...

Comment by Raine on 05/06/2008 22:15:41


Primary Blog is open ...



So is the Blog bar... ;)

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/07/2008 01:36:42
WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!





The very demure Velveeta is home from work and cracked open the drinky-poo's (Pomegranate soda).



:boobs2: *buuuuuurrrrppppppp* :boobs:

Comment by MMB on 05/07/2008 02:04:03
I read in that Jenna Bush did not want her wedding at the WH she said her fiance and and her were way to casual for that preferring a small outdoor ceremony at the ranch with 200 friends and family. Her gown was designed by Oscar De Lerenta and her 14 bridesmaids will be in 7 different cocktail length and seven different colors. Her sister is maid of honor in a blue gown. Not that anyone really cares but hey it's a wedding it was kinda interesting reading all the little details so call me a GIRL!!! pardon my spelling on Oscars name. Mom really was pulling for the WH wedding. Mom being Laura