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Author: TriSec    Date: 01/28/2014 11:10:48

Good Morning.

Today is our 4,496th day in Afghanistan.

We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing war, courtesy of antiwar.com:

US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 2,307
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,108

We find this morning's Cost of War passing through:

$ 1, 509, 057, 075, 000 .00



We'll dive right in. I thought 2014 was our last year in Afghanistan? But then I ran across this story. It's not over yet.


About 350 Fort Bragg soldiers left for Afghanistan late Sunday, bolstering local forces in the country.

The soldiers, with the 4th Brigade Combat Team and the 18th Airborne Corps, were waiting for their deployments at Pope Field's Green Ramp, after having spent some of the final hours in country with family and friends.

Some of the soldiers gathered around televisions tuned to Sunday night's NFL playoff game between the Seattle Seahawks and the San Francisco 49ers. Others rested or spoke with friends about the deployment.

"We're just ready to get down range and do our jobs," said Maj. Brenda Spence of the 18th Airborne Corps.

Spence, from Florida, said she bid her family farewell over the holidays. She was spending her final moments before the flight chatting with her colleague, Maj. Chris Gibson.

Gibson, also from Florida, said he said goodbye to his family earlier in the day.

His children, ages 9 and 7, are old enough to understand that he will be gone, he said. But that doesn't make the deployment any easier.

"I'm ready for it," Gibson said. "I want to get it over with."

Both Spence and Gibson will be making their fifth combat deployment. They were part of a 150-soldier contingent from the corps that left Sunday.

In all, about 500 soldiers from the 18th Airborne Corps will serve in Afghanistan, establishing the core of the International Security Assistance Force Joint Command.

The other 200 or so soldiers deploying Sunday were part of the first wave of troops to deploy from the 1st Battalion, 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment.

By week's end, an estimated 450 troops from the battalion will have deployed, officials said. The battalion will provide base and convoy security for U.S. and NATO forces.


I suppose it will be like us "leaving" Iraq. While we're technically no longer 'in-country', most of those assets were moved to Kuwait; there's still a massive US presence in the region.

But like everyone else that's been deployed, what awaits those soldiers when they return? Some will go back to their lives like nothing happened; but many will likely end up in treatment programs like this one.


LAKE IN THE HILLS, Ill. — The gruff man with the worn face squeezes his puffed eyes closed.

Ted Biever's mind tries to focus on the anxiety, the deep-seated feeling brought on by a story he has never stopped telling himself. Of war. Of death. All packed in that same dang dream.

That story, the therapist will repeatedly tell him and the others on this Thursday night in an open, upper room of the Lake in the Hills American Legion, is not the boss. The story is a story. Biever is the boss. If he — if all these men — focus on the feeling instead, first welcoming the anxiety or anger or sadness before allowing it to dissipate, the stories can't maintain their choking grip.

"You are not your thoughts and feelings," said David Welch, the therapist who runs the group. "You simply have them."

It can sound, at first, like metaphysical nonsense. But in this upstart group, leaders are presenting a therapy that strays — successfully, they say — from the techniques traditionally applied to treat war-related post-traumatic stress disorder.

Rather than continuously drudging up old memories of war in an effort to learn to think differently about them — a process called cognitive processing therapy — the very small number of vets who have so far opted for the alternative therapy don't share stories at all. In large part, they don't know what the others in the circle have seen or what nightmares plague them.

Instead, vets learn to mentally and physically "just let it go," that phrase they have heard for years without actual direction as to how, Welch said.

The group sprang up from a couple McHenry County veterans who recognized a need for more local efforts.

Having spent decades in therapy himself since his Vietnam War deployment as a Marine in the late 1960s, Biever had grown skeptical of traditional therapy methods. But his standing as a veteran in the community meant he would sometimes get asked by the mothers of younger veterans about how to combat PTSD.

He directed one young guy to Welch and heard rave reviews. Having to relive those painful war moments is a factor that can keep veterans from seeking therapy. Welch's technique felt safer.

And, that first guy told Biever, it worked. So he sent another young veteran, and after another positive response, Biever decided to see what Welch's therapy could do for himself. He, too, felt the results.

Biever sought out Tammy Stroud, a well-connected veteran, to help formally create a veteran therapy group around Welch.

"I was telling Tammy there are so many young kids out there that need this help," Biever said. "If they can get ahold of them now, they aren't going to be screwed up the rest of their lives."

After initial setbacks, the group received funding to start the program through the Mental Health Board and from a portion of a Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration grant that has been designated to transform the way local agencies provide for McHenry County veterans, Stroud said.

The program has no formal tie to the Department of Veteran's Affairs, but Stroud said she thinks it's the kind of community-based effort the VA wants to see.

"They recognize they can't treat all the veterans that are going to be returning," she said.


Given the spike in gun-related stories over this past week, I'm a bit reluctant to post this story, but I suppose Ask a Vet is the only proper forum for a story such as this. I have a certain reverence for airborne bits of inanimate aluminum and aero-engines, so I can well understand the connection Marines might have to their weapons.


...Berry knew Peralta, who was in Alpha Company, 1st Battalion, 3rd Marines, but the two were not especially close. On Nov. 15, 2004, Berry learned that Peralta had been killed in a house-clearing mission, and reports of his heroism — that he had grabbed a live grenade and covered it with his body to save the Marines who were with him — quickly circulated through the ranks.

But he didn’t handle his weapon until, in 2005, it was placed in his care at the 31st MEU armory.

He was told to clean it, that it was going to the Marine Corps museum.

“There was definitely shrapnel all through the hand guards, still blood on it,” he said. “I spent a few hours cleaning that thing ... I took a lot of care with it.”

As years passed, Berry said he visited the museum and was saddened that he never found the rifle on display. He began to suspect the weapon had never completed its journey.

So in his jail cell in 2010, he mailed the letter to the museum, including a poem he’d written about cleaning the weapon, and the emotion he felt, knowing its owner had died with it by his side.

Though Berry said he understands the complexity of the Medal of Honor process, he said he still believes Peralta deserves the nation’s highest combat valor award. It’s bigger than just one Marine and his family, he said.

“It would definitely represent Fallujah and all the Marines who served there,” Berry said. “Us Fallujah vets, man, it’s one thing we’ll never forget. It sort of haunts you, it really does.”


Finally....Remember Challenger.

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Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 13:37:26
Good Morning!


So, I suspect this might be the thing they try to impeach Obama over.





Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2014 14:12:38
Morning

Comment by BobR on 01/28/2014 14:17:28
Quote by Raine:
Good Morning!


So, I suspect this might be the thing they try to impeach Obama over.




Good luck with that (with the impeachment, I mean)

Comment by BobR on 01/28/2014 14:18:31
One quibble with the blog, TriSec. We have had massive assets in the region for a very long time. My brother was stationed in Kuwait when he was in the Navy, and that was in the 80s.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 14:32:50
RIP Pete Seger.

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 14:41:45
Quote by Mondobubba:
RIP Pete Seger.
To my old brown earth
And to my old blue sky
I'll now give these last few molecules of "I."

And you who sing,
And you who stand nearby,
I do charge you not to cry.

Guard well our human chain,
Watch well you keep it strong,
As long as sun will shine.

And this our home,
Keep pure and sweet and green,
For now I'm yours
And you are also mine


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 14:50:59
Quote by Raine:
Good Morning!


So, I suspect this might be the thing they try to impeach Obama over.






Excuse me, Senator Rubio, Senator Paul? With all due respect, go fuck your mothers. Especially you, Sen. Paul. Your are vacuous, useless, ill-informed, entitled waste of space, even more so than your colleague the junior senator from Florida.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 14:54:37
Yeah, I just said that. So what.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 14:57:10
Speaking of the junior senator from Kentuckey...

Dim and divisive Rand Paul self-destructs, again


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 15:03:47
Me calling out to Tea Party Republican senators to have sex with their moms killed the blog. I am sorry.

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 15:06:16
Quote by Mondobubba:
Me calling out to Tea Party Republican senators to have sex with their moms killed the blog. I am sorry.
Seriously?

I thought that's just what we do here!


(I;m busy hacking up a lung. I appear to have a bit of a cold. )






Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 15:08:02
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Me calling out to Tea Party Republican senators to have sex with their moms killed the blog. I am sorry.
Seriously?

I thought that's just what we do here!


(I;m busy hacking up a lung. I appear to have a bit of a cold. )


Oh yum! Lung butter. I was doing that myself through yesterday evening. I was sitting watch something on the teevee mosheen and realize I don't feel like crap. Hope you get better soon.






Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 15:09:04
You know, it amazes me that the Challenger disaster happened 28 years ago.

I remember exactly where I was.

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 15:10:28
Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh yum! Lung butter. I was doing that myself through yesterday evening. I was sitting watch something on the teevee mosheen and realize I don't feel like crap. Hope you get better soon.
yeah -- it occured to me about an hour ago that this is officially a cold. BLECH.

At least I planned on making a pot of Chicken soup for this evening.


Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 15:22:43
I know that Mr. Seeger was a natioanl and global treasure and hero. A person the likes we may never see again (I pray I am wrong about that) but... I really want to say that as not only a new Yorker, but a former Hudson River Valley resident, his passing takes on a special place.

This man should be credited with a small group of environmentalists that literally (I sued that word in the way it is meant to be used) saved the Hudson River.

I was lucky enough to sail on the Hudson river Sloop Clearwater when I was in Junior High. (7th grade, I was barely in the double digits -- It was the very early 80's)

He belonged to the world, yes, but we valley people shared his home, The Hudson valley.

To be really truly honest, I learned of Pete Seeger as the guy saving the Hudson River before I knew he was a musician. That is amazing, now that I really think about it.

What a life well lived.





Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2014 15:25:05
Quote by Mondobubba:
Yeah, I just said that. So what.


In phonetic English, "Tovayu Mat" is a Russian curse, translated as "Fuck your Mother".

I have no issues with this.


Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 15:27:45
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 15:28:57
Quote by Raine:
I know that Mr. Seeger was a natioanl and global treasure and hero. A person the likes we may never see again (I pray I am wrong about that) but... I really want to say that as not only a new Yorker, but a former Hudson River Valley resident, his passing takes on a special place.

This man should be credited with a small group of environmentalists that literally (I sued that word in the way it is meant to be used) saved the Hudson River.

I was lucky enough to sail on the Hudson river Sloop Clearwater when I was in Junior High. (7th grade, I was barely in the double digits -- It was the very early 80's)

He belonged to the world, yes, but we valley people shared his home, The Hudson valley.

To be really truly honest, I learned of Pete Seeger as the guy saving the Hudson River before I knew he was a musician. That is amazing, now that I really think about it.

What a life well lived.






That is really awesome. I didn't know he was the driving force behind restoring the Hudson until I watched the American Master program about him a couple of years ago.

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 15:35:10
Quote by Mondobubba:That is really awesome. I didn't know he was the driving force behind restoring the Hudson until I watched the American Master program about him a couple of years ago.
As I get older, I've realized how lucky I was.

He is legend in the Valley. I was talking to a friend of mine a while back about that sail -- We were so young, but she said there is a good chance that he was on the boat with us showing us water samples and such. I'll never really know, but it does;t matter. That sail opened my eyes to environmentalism and the importance of caring for our planet.

The Hudson River at that point was almost a dead river. I'm not exaggerating.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 15:49:06
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:That is really awesome. I didn't know he was the driving force behind restoring the Hudson until I watched the American Master program about him a couple of years ago.
As I get older, I've realized how lucky I was.

He is legend in the Valley. I was talking to a friend of mine a while back about that sail -- We were so young, but she said there is a good chance that he was on the boat with us showing us water samples and such. I'll never really know, but it does;t matter. That sail opened my eyes to environmentalism and the importance of caring for our planet.

The Hudson River at that point was almost a dead river. I'm not exaggerating.



Yeah the Hudson was in really terrible shape, all kinds of nasty industrial pollution. If I am right, you still can't eat certain types of fish caught in various locations.

Comment by BobR on 01/28/2014 15:56:43
Last night's meeting of our local homebrew club was a bit of an event. One of our longtime members has gone semi-pro, and is releasing a book on brewing sour beers. We also had some local documentarians there filming things. And finally - the godfather of homebrewing (author of The Complete Joy of Homebrewing) Charlie Papazian just happened to be having dinner at the same brewpub where we were holding our meeting. I introduced myself and invited him to join us. After he finished eating - he did! Considering his book is the first and best book most of us homebrewers have bought, it was a bit of a fanboy/fangirl-fest.

Sometimes the stars just align.

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 15:57:07
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:That is really awesome. I didn't know he was the driving force behind restoring the Hudson until I watched the American Master program about him a couple of years ago.
As I get older, I've realized how lucky I was.

He is legend in the Valley. I was talking to a friend of mine a while back about that sail -- We were so young, but she said there is a good chance that he was on the boat with us showing us water samples and such. I'll never really know, but it does;t matter. That sail opened my eyes to environmentalism and the importance of caring for our planet.

The Hudson River at that point was almost a dead river. I'm not exaggerating.



Yeah the Hudson was in really terrible shape, all kinds of nasty industrial pollution. If I am right, you still can't eat certain types of fish caught in various locations.
Yup, you are correct.

With the exception of striped bas (known to people here as Rockfish ) I'd not eat fish from the river to this day. It's is getting better. I will say that -- but you know, GE and the PCB's...

It is (imo) an underung song of an environmental turnaround.



Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 16:06:45
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:That is really awesome. I didn't know he was the driving force behind restoring the Hudson until I watched the American Master program about him a couple of years ago.
As I get older, I've realized how lucky I was.

He is legend in the Valley. I was talking to a friend of mine a while back about that sail -- We were so young, but she said there is a good chance that he was on the boat with us showing us water samples and such. I'll never really know, but it does;t matter. That sail opened my eyes to environmentalism and the importance of caring for our planet.

The Hudson River at that point was almost a dead river. I'm not exaggerating.



Yeah the Hudson was in really terrible shape, all kinds of nasty industrial pollution. If I am right, you still can't eat certain types of fish caught in various locations.
Yup, you are correct.

With the exception of striped bas (known to people here as Rockfish ) I'd not eat fish from the river to this day. It's is getting better. I will say that -- but you know, GE and the PCB's...

It is (imo) an underung song of an environmental turnaround.




Good ol' GE with the PCBs and the flaven. Oh and IBM when they were making hard drives or whatever.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 16:07:59
Quote by BobR:
Last night's meeting of our local homebrew club was a bit of an event. One of our longtime members has gone semi-pro, and is releasing a book on brewing sour beers. We also had some local documentarians there filming things. And finally - the godfather of homebrewing (author of The Complete Joy of Homebrewing) Charlie Papazian just happened to be having dinner at the same brewpub where we were holding our meeting. I introduced myself and invited him to join us. After he finished eating - he did! Considering his book is the first and best book most of us homebrewers have bought, it was a bit of a fanboy/fangirl-fest.

Sometimes the stars just align.


Well damn Bobber, that is pretty honkin' cool.

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 16:12:05
Quote by BobR:
Last night's meeting of our local homebrew club was a bit of an event. One of our longtime members has gone semi-pro, and is releasing a book on brewing sour beers. We also had some local documentarians there filming things. And finally - the godfather of homebrewing (author of The Complete Joy of Homebrewing) Charlie Papazian just happened to be having dinner at the same brewpub where we were holding our meeting. I introduced myself and invited him to join us. After he finished eating - he did! Considering his book is the first and best book most of us homebrewers have bought, it was a bit of a fanboy/fangirl-fest.

Sometimes the stars just align.

The documentarians there last night.

Comment by Scoopster on 01/28/2014 16:14:15
Mornin' all..

My mother surprised me this morning when she replied to my share-post about Pete Seeger's passing asking if I remember seeing him in concert at Stony Point.

I must have been a baby at the time, and even then I'm surprised she never told me until now!

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 16:18:15
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

My mother surprised me this morning when she replied to my share-post about Pete Seeger's passing asking if I remember seeing him in concert at Stoney Point.

I must have been a baby at the time, and even then I'm surprised she never told me until now!
Ya know, that is all kinds of awesome!

Stony Point -- is that near/in Cold Spring?

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 16:19:08
Tri, about that good turn daily thing, does it need to be strictly constructive? If I asked you for your good turn to rain hellfire and destruction on a woman in Newton, would that be cool?

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 16:26:41
Something else about Charlie Papazian.

You can thank him for this.

Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2014 16:31:54
Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri, about that good turn daily thing, does it need to be strictly constructive? If I asked you for your good turn to rain hellfire and destruction on a woman in Newton, would that be cool?


Would raining said hellfire and destruction be beneficial to you, with no expected financial or other reward on my behalf?

Then technically yes, that would be a good turn. However, Newton is uncomfortably close to the TriSec compound in Waltham (it's only about 2 miles across the river), and I tend to get carried away when fire is involved.


Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 16:41:52
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri, about that good turn daily thing, does it need to be strictly constructive? If I asked you for your good turn to rain hellfire and destruction on a woman in Newton, would that be cool?


Would raining said hellfire and destruction be beneficial to you, with no expected financial or other reward on my behalf?

Then technically yes, that would be a good turn. However, Newton is uncomfortably close to the TriSec compound in Waltham (it's only about 2 miles across the river), and I tend to get carried away when fire is involved.



Yes, it would be. No, there would be no remuneration for the service.

Hmm, yes I see the problem. Like every good Scout I've ever know, you like to play with fire. I would say the unofficial motto of Scouting is "Ignis bonum!"

Comment by Scoopster on 01/28/2014 16:48:51
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

My mother surprised me this morning when she replied to my share-post about Pete Seeger's passing asking if I remember seeing him in concert at Stoney Point.

I must have been a baby at the time, and even then I'm surprised she never told me until now!
Ya know, that is all kinds of awesome!

Stony Point -- is that near/in Cold Spring?

Across the river near Indian Point, just south of Peekskill.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/28/2014 17:10:21
Quote by Raine:
You know, it amazes me that the Challenger disaster happened 28 years ago.

I remember exactly where I was.


And in my stack of VHS tapes I found NBC coverage just after the accident and also coverage of the memorial ceremony.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 01/28/2014 17:26:03
Quote by Raine:
You know, it amazes me that the Challenger disaster happened 28 years ago.

I remember exactly where I was.



Same here. I was sitting outside of a college classroom for a history class when someone told me. This was a little before my lunch, so I went to the campus lunch room where there was a screen that showed headlines. The headlines hit me hard.

Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2014 17:28:09
Good day, folks. Got a nasty cough that just doesn't seem to want to stop.

Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2014 17:54:14
Say Mondo, does the south still exist?

I'm seeing multiple tweets coming across the wire from areas north of you (TN & GA) about literally hundreds of accidents because of the snow.

Or are you too far south?

And we're back to single-digits and far below zero wind chills here.

Thanks, Obama!


Comment by clintster on 01/28/2014 18:05:36
Quote by TriSec:
Say Mondo, does the south still exist?

I'm seeing multiple tweets coming across the wire from areas north of you (TN & GA) about literally hundreds of accidents because of the snow.

Or are you too far south?

And we're back to single-digits and far below zero wind chills here.

Thanks, Obama!


We're still here, but the snow is coming down pretty heavily (for GA at least).

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 18:06:11
http://hilobrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/seeger-banjo.jpg




Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 18:06:24
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by Raine:
You know, it amazes me that the Challenger disaster happened 28 years ago.

I remember exactly where I was.


And in my stack of VHS tapes I found NBC coverage just after the accident and also coverage of the memorial ceremony.

Wow. I'd love to see that.

Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2014 18:15:15
*shudders*

Footage of the Challenger is something I won't watch. I didn't see it live - I never actually saw the "real-time" footage until years after the fact...I have indeed only watched it twice in all these years. Although I can watch the documentaries, it's easier to have clinical detachment with those.



Comment by Scoopster on 01/28/2014 18:18:00
Eesh.. my girlfriend's old high school was evacuated because of a bomb threat. At first they didn't say why it was evacuated and I thought 'oh no not another school shooting'..

Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/28/2014 18:25:50
Quote by Raine:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by Raine:
You know, it amazes me that the Challenger disaster happened 28 years ago.

I remember exactly where I was.


And in my stack of VHS tapes I found NBC coverage just after the accident and also coverage of the memorial ceremony.

Wow. I'd love to see that.

Since I've already encoded that to mp4 it can probably be arranged if you're really interested.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 18:30:24
Quote by TriSec:
Say Mondo, does the south still exist?

I'm seeing multiple tweets coming across the wire from areas north of you (TN & GA) about literally hundreds of accidents because of the snow.

Or are you too far south?

And we're back to single-digits and far below zero wind chills here.

Thanks, Obama!





Umm that is north of where I am. Now, as far as the Panhandle goes, they are expecting sleet and freezing rain.

Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2014 18:35:02
Quote by TriSec:
*shudders*

Footage of the Challenger is something I won't watch. I didn't see it live - I never actually saw the "real-time" footage until years after the fact...I have indeed only watched it twice in all these years. Although I can watch the documentaries, it's easier to have clinical detachment with those.




I'm with you Tri. Since CNN went all Zapruder with the film of launch I can't look it either.

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 18:42:51
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by Raine:
You know, it amazes me that the Challenger disaster happened 28 years ago.

I remember exactly where I was.


And in my stack of VHS tapes I found NBC coverage just after the accident and also coverage of the memorial ceremony.

Wow. I'd love to see that.

Since I've already encoded that to mp4 it can probably be arranged if you're really interested.
I really am, Rabbit.




Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 18:50:32
The BoF is down!!!

Comment by BobR on 01/28/2014 18:54:49
Quote by Raine:
The BoF is down!!!

Seems to work for me

Comment by livingonli on 01/28/2014 18:55:25
Working for me, too since I am over there now.

Comment by BobR on 01/28/2014 18:57:51
Quote by Raine:
The BoF is down!!!

Why do the twerking bunnies, flashing lights, and and fire remind me of a Motley Crue concert?

Comment by Raine on 01/28/2014 19:02:35
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine:
The BoF is down!!!

Why do the twerking bunnies, flashing lights, and and fire remind me of a Motley Crue concert?
Here let me make it more authentic...

The BoF is down!!!