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Fear and Confusion in the Ukraine
Author: Raine    Date: 03/03/2014 14:24:16

I had hoped to write of the events occurring in the Ukraine today. With Russia seemingly invading Crimea and now with Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev ordering construction of a bridge to Crimea, I am not sure what to make of all of this. For those that don't know the geography of the area (like me), here is an image.

http://i.imgur.com/NPzK81w.jpg


I am much better at writing about social and domestic issues. Having said that, I believe that there is some strange stuff happening in the media.

From AlJazeera America:
President Viktor Yanukovich’s sudden, surprise departure from Kiev is the beginning of a long ordeal for Ukrainians. It’s also the start of a major threat to the several hundred thousand Ukrainian Jews.

Anti-Semitic violence in Ukraine may come as a surprise to an American audience accustomed to optimistic portrayals of the swiftly changing events in U.S. media. The last weeks have been dominated by talk of vigils for democracy, for the EU, for Western ways, played out for the cameras in the bonfire-lit Independence Square.

The Russian media, by contrast, have devoted time, since autumn, to explicating the virulent history of the ultranationalist neo-Nazi parties from western Ukraine that rally under the black and red flag of the grandfather of Ukrainian fascist parties, the 85-year-old Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists. Its flag can be seen in pictures of the parliament building surrounded by masked and helmeted protesters.

In her Sunday appearance to discuss the crisis on “Meet the Press,” National Security Adviser Susan Rice was not asked about the fears of the Jews of Ukraine. Nor has the White House mentioned Jews or anti-Semitism during the several remarks directed at Moscow advising Russian President Vladimir Putin not to intervene in the Ukrainian chaos.
Unbeknownst to me, Ukraine has a very large and vibrant Jewish Community.

In the meantime, I came across this earlier today; read it on your own. To be very honest, it is a little too tin foil/conspiracy to me.

The real question here is: what is going on? I am suspicious of overthrowing a democratically-elected leader of a nation. I was when it happened in Egypt last year and as of now, I question what the real motives are behind this coup in Ukraine.

Why is Russia rattling its sabers at Ukraine? They became an independent State in 1991. Crimea, according to Wikipedia is an "Autonomous Republic"
The Cimmerians, Bulgars, Greeks, Scythians, Goths, Huns, Khazars, the state of Kievan Rus', Byzantine Greeks, Kipchaks, Ottoman Turks, Golden Horde Tatars and the Mongols each controlled Crimea in its earlier history. In the 13th century, it was partly controlled by the Venetians and by the Genoese; they were followed by the Crimean Khanate and the Ottoman Empire in the 15th to 18th centuries, the Russian Empire in the 18th to 20th centuries, Germany during World War II and the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic and later the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, within the Soviet Union during the rest of the 20th century until Crimea became part of independent Ukraine with the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991.
It's seems akin to the relationship that the UK has with Canada. I'm not sure. Perhaps, just perhaps it's because many people of the Ukraine want Russia's help.
To many in Ukraine, a full-scale Russian military invasion would feel like a liberation. On Saturday, across the country’s eastern and southern provinces, hundreds of thousands of people gathered to welcome the Kremlin’s talk of protecting pro-Russian Ukrainians against the revolution that brought a new government to power last week. So far, that protection has come in the form of Russian military control of the southern region of Crimea, but on Saturday, Russian President Vladimir Putin got parliamentary approval for a broad military intervention in Ukraine. As that news spread, locals in at least four major cities in the east of Ukraine climbed onto the roofs of government buildings and replaced the Ukrainian flag with the Russian tricolor.

For the most part, what drove so many people to renounce their allegiance to Ukraine was a mix of pride and fear, the latter fueled in part by misinformation from Moscow. The most apparent deception came on Saturday morning, when the Russian Foreign Ministry put out a statement accusing the new government in Kiev of staging a “treacherous provocation” on the Crimean Peninsula. It claimed that “unidentified armed men” had been sent from Kiev to seize the headquarters of the Interior Ministry police in Crimea. But thanks to the “decisive actions of self-defense battalions,” the statement said, the attack had been averted with just a few casualties. This statement turned out to be without any basis in fact. (snip)

Within two days of taking power, the revolutionary leaders passed a bill revoking the rights of Ukraine’s regions to make Russian an official language alongside Ukrainian. That outraged the Russian-speaking half of the country, and the ban was quickly lifted. But the damage was done. With that one ill-considered piece of legislation, the new leaders had convinced millions of ethnic Russians that a wave of repression awaited them. So it was no surprise on Friday when a livid mob in Crimea attacked a liberal lawmaker who came to reason with them. Struggling to make his case over the screaming throng, Petro Poroshenko was chased back to his car amid cries of “Fascist!”

Making matters worse has been the role of nationalist parties in the new government, including a small but influential group of right-wing radicals known as Pravy Sektor (Right Sector), which embodies some of the greatest fears of Ukraine’s ethnic Russian minority. Its leader, Dmitro Yarosh, has openly referred to Russia as the “centuries-old enemy of Ukraine” and has spent years training a small paramilitary force to fight what he calls “Russian imperialist ambitions.”

In the past week, Ukraine’s new leaders have been scrambling to figure out what to do with Yarosh. His role in the revolution was too significant for them to write him off. Having suffered dozens of casualties in fighting off police during deadly clashes in Kiev last month, his militia members are idolized as heroes by many supporters of the revolution across the country. “It’s a real problem,” says the pro-Western lawmaker Hrihory Nemiriya, whose fellow members of the Fatherland party now hold the interim presidency and premiership. “Right Sector people are very popular, but they are not in the government.”


Having said all that, how many Russian troops have *invaded* Crimea? The NYT makes it sound like this is no big thing, so far.
A day after what seemed to be the start of a full-scale Russian offensive, however, Mr. Shevtsov and just about everyone else are trying to figure out what it is exactly that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia is up to. The swirling drama in Crimea has produced not so much a phony war — as the early and almost entirely peaceful phase of World War II was known — but a strange phantom war in which heavily armed men come and go, mostly in masks and in uniforms shorn of all markings, to confront an enemy nobody has actually seen, except in imaginations agitated by Russian television.

At the headquarters of a newly established pro-Russian self-defense force in the city of Sevastopol on Sunday, would-be recruits gathered beneath a Russian flag and frothed with fury at the “fascists” who they believe have seized power in Kiev and are now preparing to flood into Crimea to plunder and kill anybody who speaks Russian instead of Ukrainian.

“We haven’t seen any of them here yet, but we have seen them on TV,” said Stanislav Nagorny, an aide to the leader of the self-defense force, whose name he said he could not reveal. The mystery commander, he added, “is very, very busy preparing to defend the city.”


I don't know what is going on. I know I don't like it from any angle so far. The messages are truly mixed, and those mixed messages have the Russian markets tumbling. So far, I'm neutral on this clustermess, and right now I don't think any of us has been told the entire story.

Don't tell that to this guy ... he never met an international conflict he didn't want the USA involved in.
"We are all Ukrainians," McCain said in an interview with TIME magazine published Friday. The comments came ahead of President Barack Obama's announcement that he would address the events.

McCain said that Russian President Vladimir Putin thinks "this is a chess match reminiscent of the Cold War and we need to realize that and act accordingly." The senior senator from Arizona added that that didn't mean he foresaw "a conflict with Russia, but we need to take certain measures that would convince Putin that there is a very high cost to actions that he is taking now."

The comment was a near carbon copy to what McCain said in 2008 when Russia invaded Georgia. At the time McCain said, "I know I speak for every American I say to him today, we are all Georgians."




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Comment by wickedpam on 03/03/2014 14:04:49
Morning

Blogging from home - we actually closed the office for the second time this year - I'm shocked.

Though it would have been nice if someone had called me to let up know instead of me having to track someone down

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/03/2014 14:08:52
Hola, Mala.

Comment by clintster on 03/03/2014 14:09:06
Oh boy... Donald Trump provided the classiest, most luxuriant liveblogging of the Oscars ever.

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Screen-Shot-2014-03-03-at-7.35.54-AM.png


Comment by Scoopster on 03/03/2014 14:37:16
Mornin' all..

Is it time to go home yet?

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 14:52:16
I;m here!

I had one of the most rest filled sleeps I have had since my panic attack 2 weeks ago.

Thank you Clink for sharing with us the Art that is John Travolta.

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 14:52:50
Quote by clintster:
Oh boy... Donald Trump provided the classiest, most luxuriant liveblogging of the Oscars ever.

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Screen-Shot-2014-03-03-at-7.35.54-AM.png
Excellant use of an SAT word Clint!


Comment by BobR on 03/03/2014 15:06:05
I wouldn't say Bette Midler "sucked", but I really do not like that song.

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 15:17:34
I am putting this here,
I'm just putting this up as a placeholder for the bloogers that be. Until they arrive, enjoy some John Travolta, won't you?



The Blog is posted!!!


Thank you again Clint!

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 15:25:30
Time to Shovel....

I hope you enjoy the blog... and if anyone can give me a straight story on what's happening, I would appreciate it.

Comment by Scoopster on 03/03/2014 15:37:53
An addendum to today's excellent bloggie.. here's some maps of Ukraine from the NY Times. In particular that last one about all the gas pipelines may explain some of the reason for this conflict..

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 16:08:45
Quote by Scoopster:
An addendum to today's excellent bloggie.. here's some maps of Ukraine from the NY Times. In particular that last one about all the gas pipelines may explain some of the reason for this conflict..
There is a part of me that wondfers if this is about the pipelines as well.

but, why now
?




Comment by Mondobubba on 03/03/2014 16:14:46
So, I saw this yesterdee:

http://www.motorweek.org/images/over_the_edge/3104_planters_nutmobile.jpg


Comment by BobR on 03/03/2014 16:15:42
FOX Weather reporter getting plowed:

http://cdn.phillymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/http-makeagif.com-media-3-03-2014-ucrSKm.gif


Comment by BobR on 03/03/2014 16:16:24
Quote by Mondobubba:
So, I saw this yesterdee:

http://www.motorweek.org/images/over_the_edge/3104_planters_nutmobile.jpg

nice - I've seen the WeinerMobile before, but never this one

Comment by BobR on 03/03/2014 16:17:02
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
An addendum to today's excellent bloggie.. here's some maps of Ukraine from the NY Times. In particular that last one about all the gas pipelines may explain some of the reason for this conflict..
There is a part of me that wondfers if this is about the pipelines as well.

but, why now
?

Taking advantage of unrest to mask the real reason?

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 16:17:14
Quote by BobR:
FOX Weather reporter getting plowed:

http://cdn.phillymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/http-makeagif.com-media-3-03-2014-ucrSKm.gif
I know I shouldn't laugh...

but I'm laughing.


Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 16:26:30
I would really love to know the validity of the Pando link I posted in the Blog... Scoop what did you make of it?



Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 16:29:01
Quote by Raine:
I would really love to know the validity of the Pando link I posted in the Blog... Scoop what did you make of it?


Wheeler is partly correct. Pando has confirmed that the American government – in the form of the US Agency for International Development (USAID) – played a major role in funding opposition groups prior to the revolution. Moreover, a large percentage of the rest of the funding to those same groups came from a US billionaire who has previously worked closely with US government agencies to further his own business interests. This was by no means a US-backed “coup,” but clear evidence shows that US investment was a force multiplier for many of the groups involved in overthrowing Yanukovych.

But that’s not the shocking part.

What’s shocking is the name of the billionaire who co-invested with the US government (or as Wheeler put it: the “dark deep force” acting on behalf of “Pax Americana”).

Step out of the shadows…. Wheeler’s boss, Pierre Omidyar.

Yes, in the annals of independent media, this might be the strangest twist ever: According to financial disclosures and reports seen by Pando, the founder and publisher of Glenn Greenwald’s government-bashing blog,“The Intercept,” co-invested with the US government to help fund regime change in Ukraine.




Comment by Mondobubba on 03/03/2014 16:52:20
Dear John McCain, don't be in such a hurry to talk about military intervention in the crisis in Ukraine. The last foreign power to get involved there was Germany. We all know how well that worked out.

Comment by Scoopster on 03/03/2014 17:14:21
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
I would really love to know the validity of the Pando link I posted in the Blog... Scoop what did you make of it?


Wheeler is partly correct. Pando has confirmed that the American government – in the form of the US Agency for International Development (USAID) – played a major role in funding opposition groups prior to the revolution. Moreover, a large percentage of the rest of the funding to those same groups came from a US billionaire who has previously worked closely with US government agencies to further his own business interests. This was by no means a US-backed “coup,” but clear evidence shows that US investment was a force multiplier for many of the groups involved in overthrowing Yanukovych.

But that’s not the shocking part.

What’s shocking is the name of the billionaire who co-invested with the US government (or as Wheeler put it: the “dark deep force” acting on behalf of “Pax Americana”).

Step out of the shadows…. Wheeler’s boss, Pierre Omidyar.

Yes, in the annals of independent media, this might be the strangest twist ever: According to financial disclosures and reports seen by Pando, the founder and publisher of Glenn Greenwald’s government-bashing blog,“The Intercept,” co-invested with the US government to help fund regime change in Ukraine.


Okay here's the deal.. there's nothing necessarily illegal about this. USAID's mission statement says "We partner to end extreme poverty and to promote resilient, democratic societies while advancing our security and prosperity." That's pretty much what went on. They partnered with Omidyar, who in large part funded efforts in the Ukraine against Yanukovich's political and social oppression.

However, as we know from the past this kinda thing can be misappropriated (hello USAID funneling money to Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq War, then later running the Oil-for-Food Programme under Clinton). Plus let's be honest here funding any side of a military conflict, whether it's in the open or not, is INTERFERING IN THE AFFAIRS OF OTHER COUNTRIES. We shouldn't doing it, period. Well okay not unless it reaches a certain point and international intervention on some level (diplomatic always first) is required.

This latest thing is just another example. You have a corporate billionaire helping the government to fund social and political reforms yes, but also knowingly funding open rebellion. And he's not even trying to excuse himself! He's quite proud of the fact that his money is being used for war because it's justified in his mind by the potential result. It's the same kind of blatant arrogance and disregard for what anyone else thinks that you see with those involved in his media venture First Look - namely Greenwald and Poitras.

Comment by livingonli on 03/03/2014 17:51:55
Good day, folks. I guess for a change I dodged a bullet since I have to love how the weather forecasters here over 24 hours downgraded our snow forecast from 4-8 inches to 3-6 and then 1-3 and I think we ended up getting less than an inch. At least I am glad we got that for a change since the weather has so bummed me out and frustrated me.

Comment by Scoopster on 03/03/2014 17:56:28
Oh yeah.. And as the Pando article points out, Omidyar has one of his pet reporters pushing the whole 'US GOVERNMENT IS THE BIG BAD BOOGEYMAN FUNDING WAR' angle. but it's perfectly fine when the libertarian billionaire does EXACTLY THAT.

The fucking hypocrisy.. that's what annoys me most of all.

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 17:58:35
Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 18:08:57
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
I would really love to know the validity of the Pando link I posted in the Blog... Scoop what did you make of it?


Wheeler is partly correct. Pando has confirmed that the American government – in the form of the US Agency for International Development (USAID) – played a major role in funding opposition groups prior to the revolution. Moreover, a large percentage of the rest of the funding to those same groups came from a US billionaire who has previously worked closely with US government agencies to further his own business interests. This was by no means a US-backed “coup,” but clear evidence shows that US investment was a force multiplier for many of the groups involved in overthrowing Yanukovych.

But that’s not the shocking part.

What’s shocking is the name of the billionaire who co-invested with the US government (or as Wheeler put it: the “dark deep force” acting on behalf of “Pax Americana”).

Step out of the shadows…. Wheeler’s boss, Pierre Omidyar.

Yes, in the annals of independent media, this might be the strangest twist ever: According to financial disclosures and reports seen by Pando, the founder and publisher of Glenn Greenwald’s government-bashing blog,“The Intercept,” co-invested with the US government to help fund regime change in Ukraine.


Okay here's the deal.. there's nothing necessarily illegal about this. USAID's mission statement says "We partner to end extreme poverty and to promote resilient, democratic societies while advancing our security and prosperity." That's pretty much what went on. They partnered with Omidyar, who in large part funded efforts in the Ukraine against Yanukovich's political and social oppression.

However, as we know from the past this kinda thing can be misappropriated (hello USAID funneling money to Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq War, then later running the Oil-for-Food Programme under Clinton). Plus let's be honest here funding any side of a military conflict, whether it's in the open or not, is INTERFERING IN THE AFFAIRS OF OTHER COUNTRIES. We shouldn't doing it, period. Well okay not unless it reaches a certain point and international intervention on some level (diplomatic always first) is required.

This latest thing is just another example. You have a corporate billionaire helping the government to fund social and political reforms yes, but also knowingly funding open rebellion. And he's not even trying to excuse himself! He's quite proud of the fact that his money is being used for war because it's justified in his mind by the potential result. It's the same kind of blatant arrogance and disregard for what anyone else thinks that you see with those involved in his media venture First Look - namely Greenwald and Poitras.
That's a HUGE part that is bothering the hell out of me. I am messaging Bob Cesca to see what he has to say; he and another friend just found this article this morning as well.


Greenwald, Poitras, Snowden, Russia and the coup of the Ukraine. Something smells to high heaven here.

And John McCain needs NEEDS TO STFU, now.




Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 18:10:29
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh yeah.. And as the Pando article points out, Omidyar has one of his pet reporters pushing the whole 'US GOVERNMENT IS THE BIG BAD BOOGEYMAN FUNDING WAR' angle. but it's perfectly fine when the libertarian billionaire does EXACTLY THAT.

The fucking hypocrisy.. that's what annoys me most of all.
Marcie FDL Wheeler.

This part of the story has me really kinda PO'd. and this was why I wrote a blog today trying to figure out WTF is going on.




Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 18:31:03
My Brother in Law is the Arlington Admirals Hockey teams coach. (Lagrangeville, NY) HE posted this the other day on the BoF:

I am please to announce that the Arlington Admirals have won the States for the Varsity High School Hockey Division and we are on our way to the USA Hockey Nationals in Omaha, Nebraska. I'm proud of all the players who put the hard work in to achieve a remarkable goal. We have more work to do, but I'm confident we are up for the challenge.


SO proud of the BIL and his kids!



Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/03/2014 18:33:51
Hello, bloggers!! Raine, I am glad to hear that you are feeling better. I hope that everyone is dong well.

I have included a lot of updates on the situation in the Ukraine,and view it as complex. (Feel free to check out my Facebook page.) We have to weigh our actions as a nation carefully. I am reluctant for our government to truly be seen as supporting one side or another, as Ukraine itself is divided. However, I oppose Russia send its forces into a sovereign nation.

ThinkProgress has an article: 5 Ways The U.S. Can Respond To Russia Invading Ukraine — Without Going To War.



Comment by Scoopster on 03/03/2014 19:46:21
Iiiiiit's Caption Time!

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/Picture%2030.png


Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/03/2014 20:14:38
Quote by Scoopster:
Iiiiiit's Caption Time!

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/Picture%2030.png


Holy News Briefs, Batman!!!



Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 20:21:35
Quote by Scoopster:
Iiiiiit's Caption Time!

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/Picture%2030.png



Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 20:23:09
Quote by Scoopster:
Iiiiiit's Caption Time!

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/Picture%2030.png

oops... I crapped my pants!





Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 20:29:49
OK, I am making beef stew in the crock pot and the smell is too amazing.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/03/2014 20:57:51
Quote by Raine:
OK, I am making beef stew in the crock pot and the smell is too amazing.



I love crock pot cooking. My sister has a great Swiss steak recipe.

Comment by Mondobubba on 03/03/2014 21:09:53
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Raine:
OK, I am making beef stew in the crock pot and the smell is too amazing.



I love crock pot cooking. My sister has a great Swiss steak recipe.


As opposed to crotch pot cooking?



Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 22:05:08
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Raine:
OK, I am making beef stew in the crock pot and the smell is too amazing.



I love crock pot cooking. My sister has a great Swiss steak recipe.


As opposed to crotch pot cooking?



Bobber and I shoveled for a good hour this morning.

He went back out around 230 and just got back in at 440.

He a good guy, helping out the neighbors.

(I feel a little guilty, My back has been sucking from my previous cold (the cough) and I really felt like I should;t re-run down the system and get sick again.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/03/2014 22:06:34
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Raine:
OK, I am making beef stew in the crock pot and the smell is too amazing.



I love crock pot cooking. My sister has a great Swiss steak recipe.


As opposed to crotch pot cooking?




If it is Rush Limbaugh's crotch pot, I don't think he is going to have anyone showing up for dinner.

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 22:07:34
You know, listening to Randi and watching MSNBC, it is really starting to look like a LOT of people don't get what is happening in Ukraine.

I'd much rather a tepid approach. Today on MSNBC, Rachel was interviewed bby Andrea Mitchell, and she was one of the few Liberals that suggested that American and EU financial support could help bring the country out of the cold war mentality.




Comment by Mondobubba on 03/03/2014 22:10:17
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Will in Chicago:
Quote by Raine:
OK, I am making beef stew in the crock pot and the smell is too amazing.



I love crock pot cooking. My sister has a great Swiss steak recipe.


As opposed to crotch pot cooking?



Bobber and I shoveled for a good hour this morning.

He went back out around 230 and just got back in at 440.

He a good guy, helping out the neighbors.

(I feel a little guilty, My back has been sucking from my previous cold (the cough) and I really felt like I should;t re-run down the system and get sick again.



That is one of my favorite bits from Good Morning Viet Nam. I have over used it actually.

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 22:11:34
Quote by Raine:
You know, listening to Randi and watching MSNBC, it is really starting to look like a LOT of people don't get what is happening in Ukraine.

I'd much rather a tepid approach. Today on MSNBC, Rachel was interviewed bby Andrea Mitchell, and she was one of the few Liberals that suggested that American and EU financial support could help bring the country out of the cold war mentality.

This is what I saw. Watch the video.

I think she is right.



Comment by Mondobubba on 03/03/2014 22:22:50
Travoltaize your name!

I am Daud Knight

Comment by Raine on 03/03/2014 22:29:34
Quote by Mondobubba:
Travoltaize your name!

I am Daud Knight



"Rian Kooth"




Comment by TriSec on 03/03/2014 23:29:42
Greetings, comrades.

My only observation on this has to do with something Der Puhtin said this weekend.

"We're going into Crimea to protect Russian interests from violent extremists".

Isn't that just about what Hitler said right after the Wehrmacht crossed the border on 1 September 1939?

This is outright Imperialism. He wants Crimea to protect the Russian Naval base. There is no other explanation. Pure military aggression.

Here, war may be the only answer, but it's not ours to fight. The question is, what can Ukraine do about it?


Comment by Raine on 03/04/2014 00:51:42
Quote by TriSec:
Greetings, comrades.

My only observation on this has to do with something Der Puhtin said this weekend.

"We're going into Crimea to protect Russian interests from violent extremists".

Isn't that just about what Hitler said right after the Wehrmacht crossed the border on 1 September 1939?

This is outright Imperialism. He wants Crimea to protect the Russian Naval base. There is no other explanation. Pure military aggression.

Here, war may be the only answer, but it's not ours to fight. The question is, what can Ukraine do about it?

That is a much darker version that I had thought about.

What if, benevolently I suggest, Russia is trying to give an out for those that fear this 'new' leadership?

What if they are the ones that are, as I put forth in the blog, the ones that are the anti-semites?


Comment by BobR on 03/04/2014 01:36:33
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Travoltaize your name!

I am Daud Knight



"Rian Kooth"



Brooke Ree

Comment by BobR on 03/04/2014 01:37:33
Quote by TriSec:
Greetings, comrades.

My only observation on this has to do with something Der Puhtin said this weekend.

"We're going into Crimea to protect Russian interests from violent extremists".

Isn't that just about what Hitler said right after the Wehrmacht crossed the border on 1 September 1939?

This is outright Imperialism. He wants Crimea to protect the Russian Naval base. There is no other explanation. Pure military aggression.

Here, war may be the only answer, but it's not ours to fight. The question is, what can Ukraine do about it?

Initially - WWII was not ours to fight either.