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Getting Ugly
Author: BobR
Date: 03/12/2014 11:20:46
I've posted more than one blog about Republicans and the amazing and stupid things they say. Unfortunately for them (and I suppose fortunately for us), they have to get re-elected. Their supporters and sycophants, however, are free to blather on with nary a care for consequence. The things they spout are stupid, mean-spirited, venal, galling, insane and deliberately deceptive. Let's have a look...
The one getting the most play and pushback is the anti-"Obamacare" ad for a Republican challenger to Gary Peters (D-MI). That's the one where the woman claims that she can no longer afford her health care. The truth is that she would actually save money:
Is she Ronald Reagan reincarnate? (who famously said - after being confronted with the evidence of the Iran Contra scandal - "A few months ago I told you I did not trade arms for hostages. In my heart I still think that is true but the facts say otherwise")
Televangelist Pat Robertson once again babbles incoherently:
Porn causes demons to wreck your car. That's definitely a new one.
Further out there in cloud cuckoo land (paranoid conspiracy division) is the nutjob at WND (yeah, I know) who claims that Russia will overtake the U.S. as a human rights leader. I can't even quote part of it, it's too sweeping in its absurdity. To summarize, though, humans have no right to sodomy, and embracing Christian values (which are apparently anti-homosexual) is the epitome of promoting human rights and the sign of a great society.
As always, though, FOX "News" continues to be the viper pit of political commentary. Stuart Varney is upset that states are feeding poor people despite cuts in food stamps:
So apparently forcing people to starve is winning. Winning what exactly is certainly debatable.
Elisabeth Hasselbeck is upset about President Obama's comedy bit with Zach Galifianakis. Not because she thinks he shouldn't smile until BENGHAZI! is all settled (which in their minds will be... um... never). No, she thinks it's "inappropriate" for the President to be "advertising" a law (in this case - Obamacare). I can't even comprehend this.
And finally - we can't talk about the nadir of right-wing political discourse without bringing in the queen of crass - mAnn Coulter. She manages to offend rape victims everywhere when she compares Amnesty to rape:
She says that like someone who's had a penis in her at one point or another. I highly doubt that. She's certainly never had one forced into her against her will. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but when people use that word in such an offense manner, I tend to waver.
That's what happens when you pay too much attention to what these freaks say. The ugliness starts to rub off.
The one getting the most play and pushback is the anti-"Obamacare" ad for a Republican challenger to Gary Peters (D-MI). That's the one where the woman claims that she can no longer afford her health care. The truth is that she would actually save money:
Boonstra’s old plan cost $1,100 a month in premiums or $13,200 a year, she previously told The News. That didn’t include money she spent on co-pays, prescription drugs and other out-of-pocket expenses.
By contrast, the Blues’ plan premium costs $571 a month or $6,852 for the year. Since out-of-pocket costs are capped at $5,100 for in-network doctors and hospitals, including deductibles, the maximum Boonstra would pay this year for all of her cancer treatment is $11,952.
When advised of the details of her Blues’ plan, Boonstra said the idea that it would be cheaper “can’t be true.”
“I personally do not believe that,” Boonstra said.
Is she Ronald Reagan reincarnate? (who famously said - after being confronted with the evidence of the Iran Contra scandal - "A few months ago I told you I did not trade arms for hostages. In my heart I still think that is true but the facts say otherwise")
Televangelist Pat Robertson once again babbles incoherently:
“I was watching a horror movie the other day of the recommendation of others,” a viewer explained in a letter to The 700 Club. “It was rather strange and awfully macabre. And then this past Sunday, I got into an accident leaving church.”
“Did watching that movie cause a curse — or the Lord’s protection to be lifted from me?” the viewer wondered. “Did I grieve the Holy Spirit by watching this series?”
The TV preacher pointed out that he doubted demons had caused the car crash in this case, but it was possible.
Porn causes demons to wreck your car. That's definitely a new one.
Further out there in cloud cuckoo land (paranoid conspiracy division) is the nutjob at WND (yeah, I know) who claims that Russia will overtake the U.S. as a human rights leader. I can't even quote part of it, it's too sweeping in its absurdity. To summarize, though, humans have no right to sodomy, and embracing Christian values (which are apparently anti-homosexual) is the epitome of promoting human rights and the sign of a great society.
As always, though, FOX "News" continues to be the viper pit of political commentary. Stuart Varney is upset that states are feeding poor people despite cuts in food stamps:
Fox News host Stuart Varney is outraged that state governments are continuing to help the poor feed themselves, even after Congress agreed to cut spending on food stamps.
[...]
“This completely negates, almost entirely negates the cuts that Congress imposed,” Varney said Tuesday on “Fox & Friends.”
[...]
“You are told that you are taking food out of the mouths of children. You’re making people starve. You are bad because you’re cutting. You can’t win!..."
So apparently forcing people to starve is winning. Winning what exactly is certainly debatable.
Elisabeth Hasselbeck is upset about President Obama's comedy bit with Zach Galifianakis. Not because she thinks he shouldn't smile until BENGHAZI! is all settled (which in their minds will be... um... never). No, she thinks it's "inappropriate" for the President to be "advertising" a law (in this case - Obamacare). I can't even comprehend this.
And finally - we can't talk about the nadir of right-wing political discourse without bringing in the queen of crass - mAnn Coulter. She manages to offend rape victims everywhere when she compares Amnesty to rape:
Legal immigration has quadrupled in the last four decades, and it has not been natural but a Democratic plan to increase their vote share from a 1965 law, conservative commentator Ann Coulter said Saturday – offering one of her most bombastic characterizations.
[...]
"No this isn’t a natural process,” Coulter said. “It’s like you’re being raped and the guy is telling you ‘my penis is in you.’ No, you’re raping me. Demographics are changing by force. There is nothing natural about it.”
She says that like someone who's had a penis in her at one point or another. I highly doubt that. She's certainly never had one forced into her against her will. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but when people use that word in such an offense manner, I tend to waver.
That's what happens when you pay too much attention to what these freaks say. The ugliness starts to rub off.
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Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 03/12/2014 12:09:16
Will in Chicago on 03/12/2014 12:09:16
Good morning, bloggers!! I hope that everyone is well. (I was up at 5 AM to shovel and I am home. For one thing, no car yet. For another, my sister-in-law is having knee surgery. Please keep her in your thoughts.)
BobR, thanks for a great blog. I remember a friend years ago quoting a comic book writer who had a line that the Joker was where evil and insanity met. I believe that today's GOP may be where evil and stupidity meet. Coulter's comment recalls the worst of the nativist rhetoric of the past.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson recently stated that science is true, whether one believes it or not. The same applies to reality.
We also must avoid staring so deeply into the Abyss, to paraphrase Nietzsche, that the Abyss stares back at us. For Ann Coulter, I have a wish -- that she sees a world that rejects her hate, where people of all races, creeds, genders, sexual orientation and identities build a future that is worthy of the best aspirations of our ancestors and the dreams of our children. Coulter, Robertson, and Hasselback would be lucky to be remembered as small potholes in the road to a better future.
BobR, thanks for a great blog. I remember a friend years ago quoting a comic book writer who had a line that the Joker was where evil and insanity met. I believe that today's GOP may be where evil and stupidity meet. Coulter's comment recalls the worst of the nativist rhetoric of the past.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson recently stated that science is true, whether one believes it or not. The same applies to reality.
We also must avoid staring so deeply into the Abyss, to paraphrase Nietzsche, that the Abyss stares back at us. For Ann Coulter, I have a wish -- that she sees a world that rejects her hate, where people of all races, creeds, genders, sexual orientation and identities build a future that is worthy of the best aspirations of our ancestors and the dreams of our children. Coulter, Robertson, and Hasselback would be lucky to be remembered as small potholes in the road to a better future.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 03/12/2014 12:47:28
wickedpam on 03/12/2014 12:47:28
Morning 
Comment by 
Raine on 03/12/2014 13:11:24
Good morning!
Raine on 03/12/2014 13:11:24
Good morning!
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 03/12/2014 13:13:15
Mondobubba on 03/12/2014 13:13:15
Bobber, the blog today is why I crowd sourced a collective noun for douchebags, the squeeze. I would have to say that the GOP is a big old squeeze of douchebags.
Comment by wickedpam on 03/12/2014 13:44:56
wickedpam on 03/12/2014 13:44:56
Guest on with John has a terrible phone - who is he talking too, I can't tell
Comment by wickedpam on 03/12/2014 13:56:26
wickedpam on 03/12/2014 13:56:26
Why is everyone freaking out at a repub won a repub district?
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 14:04:34
I was wondering that myself. It would have been very nice to pick that seat up, but it has been R forever.
I;m more concerned with swing seats, and bagger seats.
Raine on 03/12/2014 14:04:34
Quote by wickedpam:
Why is everyone freaking out at a repub won a repub district?
I;m more concerned with swing seats, and bagger seats.
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 14:05:36
I didn't get the name -- 
Raine on 03/12/2014 14:05:36
Quote by wickedpam:
Guest on with John has a terrible phone - who is he talking too, I can't tell
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 14:12:05
live coverage. It appears as tho a building collapsed in Harlem.
Raine on 03/12/2014 14:12:05
Quote by Raine:
This does not look good.
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 14:21:51
Raine on 03/12/2014 14:21:51
Reports that two buildings have collapsed. one is a church.
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 14:26:14
Raine on 03/12/2014 14:26:14
Smoke is blowing into Central park.
Comment by wickedpam on 03/12/2014 14:34:11
Same here. And the Texas governors seat too.
wickedpam on 03/12/2014 14:34:11
Quote by Raine:I was wondering that myself. It would have been very nice to pick that seat up, but it has been R forever.Quote by wickedpam:
Why is everyone freaking out at a repub won a repub district?
I;m more concerned with swing seats, and bagger seats.
Same here. And the Texas governors seat too.
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 14:35:55
I would 
to see a woman Dem take that seat back.
Raine on 03/12/2014 14:35:55
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:I was wondering that myself. It would have been very nice to pick that seat up, but it has been R forever.Quote by wickedpam:
Why is everyone freaking out at a repub won a repub district?
I;m more concerned with swing seats, and bagger seats.
Same here. And the Texas governors seat too.
to see a woman Dem take that seat back.
Comment by wickedpam on 03/12/2014 14:36:18
I hope everyone's okay
wickedpam on 03/12/2014 14:36:18
Quote by Raine:
Reports that two buildings have collapsed. one is a church.
I hope everyone's okay
Comment by wickedpam on 03/12/2014 14:37:10
wickedpam on 03/12/2014 14:37:10
Also thoughts, prayers and positive thoughts to sister-in-law of Will 
Comment by wickedpam on 03/12/2014 14:38:02
me too. sadly the douche bag is in the lead
wickedpam on 03/12/2014 14:38:02
Quote by Raine:I wouldQuote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:I was wondering that myself. It would have been very nice to pick that seat up, but it has been R forever.Quote by wickedpam:
Why is everyone freaking out at a repub won a repub district?
I;m more concerned with swing seats, and bagger seats.
Same here. And the Texas governors seat too.
me too. sadly the douche bag is in the lead
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 14:42:13
I do too.
Raine on 03/12/2014 14:42:13
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Reports that two buildings have collapsed. one is a church.
I hope everyone's okay
Comment by 
Scoopster on 03/12/2014 14:45:31
Scoopster on 03/12/2014 14:45:31
Mornin' all..
Holy shit @ this explosion/collapse in NYC. Two whole buildings just gone poofed!
Holy shit @ this explosion/collapse in NYC. Two whole buildings just gone poofed!
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 14:51:41
I do not understand how 2 building can explode like this from a gas leak.
watching the live feed, it looks like we have fatalities.
Raine on 03/12/2014 14:51:41
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..
Holy shit @ this explosion/collapse in NYC. Two whole buildings just gone poofed!
I do not understand how 2 building can explode like this from a gas leak.
watching the live feed, it looks like we have fatalities.
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 14:54:45
Raine on 03/12/2014 14:54:45
Carmen... CBSLocal is interviewing her, and I want to say this now: She's a landlord and she knows ALL of her tenants -- she is heartbroken. She knows the story of her tenants (can assume who might have been home or who might not have) and has tried to call all of them.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/12/2014 15:27:58
Thanks. They cancelled the surgery today as the clinic was having power problems. A lot of schools south or east of me are having delayed openings or closed.
Will in Chicago on 03/12/2014 15:27:58
Quote by wickedpam:
Also thoughts, prayers and positive thoughts to sister-in-law of Will
Thanks. They cancelled the surgery today as the clinic was having power problems. A lot of schools south or east of me are having delayed openings or closed.
Comment by 
livingonli on 03/12/2014 16:16:51
livingonli on 03/12/2014 16:16:51
Good day, folks. Supposed to get a lot of rain today. Hoping it wipes away that big ice patch in the driveway.
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 16:20:44
Raine on 03/12/2014 16:20:44
OK, I'm kinda pissed right now.
pissed enough that I am not redacting names:
pissed enough that I am not redacting names:
How terribly sad. I hear there were 60 open violations, on this Building? Harlem, Slum Lords. Seems like a gas-leak.
2 NYC buildings collapse in explosion, 2 dead
ctpost.com
A utility company says a resident in a nearby building reported smelling gas shortly before the explosion Wednesday morning. Con Edison spokesman Bob McGee says a resident from a building...
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Raine Koch Not slum lords. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/.../explosion-reported-at.../
Explosion, Fire Reported At Building In East Harlem - CBS New York
newyork.cbslocal.com
It happened around 9 a.m. at a building on Park Avenue between 114th and 117th streets, the FDNY said.
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Mary Kennedy This will be a real test for the new Mayor.
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Raine Koch The owner of one of the building called Con-Ed about the gas.
I have friends in this area.
5 minutes ago · Like
Nancy McCampbell Bad Gas Pipes? We have 100 Year-Old ones here. But they are O.K. *Wink* *Wink* Not a terrorist attack.
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Nancy McCampbell I heard there were 60 open violations? So not a "Slum Lord?" We will find out more, later.
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Jeannine Hill Omg
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Raine Koch here is a local live link: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/live-video/
It's not a slum lord. Have you ever been in that area? I gave you a link about Carmen Vargas-Rosa who is desperately looking for her tenants. She knows every one of their life stories.
Please, PLEASE, do not make assumptions. I;m still trying to make sure my friends in this area are still alive.
Live Video - CBS New York
newyork.cbslocal.com
Latest CBSNewYork.com News Stories More From CBSNewYork.com »
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Comment by Scoopster on 03/12/2014 16:21:06
Scoopster on 03/12/2014 16:21:06
DeBlasio speaking now from the explosion site.
I didn't realize how tall he was..
I didn't realize how tall he was..
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 16:24:44
Dude is twice the height of Bloomberg... 
Raine on 03/12/2014 16:24:44
Quote by Scoopster:
DeBlasio speaking now from the explosion site.
I didn't realize how tall he was..
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 16:29:09
Raine on 03/12/2014 16:29:09
I;m having one of those *you live in fucking Montana and you are trying to tell me how bad it is in NYC Moments.*
Nancy McCampbell We lost an entire block, due to a gas leak, & fire. OLD Gas LINES! Still "OLD!"
3 minutes ago · Like
Raine Koch Whatever -- it appears as though you know NYC better than I.
talk to ya later.
2 minutes ago · Like
Nancy McCampbell Geez Rain! I am just concerned~
about a minute ago · Like
Roland Armstrong So sad. Hugs for those that suffered this loss.
about a minute ago · Like · 1
Raine Koch I'm concerned as well -- but don;t make it worse than it already is. A block is not gone.
it is 2 buildings. that is bad enough, doncha think?
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 16:35:03
Raine on 03/12/2014 16:35:03
DeBlasio is kinda funny. He's kinda micro managing the presser.
Comment by wickedpam on 03/12/2014 16:35:37
wickedpam on 03/12/2014 16:35:37
Jeez - people like that make my eye twitch
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 16:37:01
It's not as bad as the norm. He was trying to help the firefighter figure out how to pick the next journalist.
Raine on 03/12/2014 16:37:01
Quote by wickedpam:
Jeez - people like that make my eye twitch
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 16:37:56
Raine on 03/12/2014 16:37:56
I have to say, I;m not upset by such an unpolished presser.
Comment by wickedpam on 03/12/2014 16:42:54
oh no, I meant your Montana person
wickedpam on 03/12/2014 16:42:54
Quote by Raine:It's not as bad as the norm. He was trying to help the firefighter figure out how to pick the next journalist.Quote by wickedpam:
Jeez - people like that make my eye twitch
oh no, I meant your Montana person
Comment by Scoopster on 03/12/2014 16:43:08
Scoopster on 03/12/2014 16:43:08
There ya go Raine.. there's literally hundreds of violations that have NOTHING to do with gas or utilities. Ms. Nancy is quite off-base.
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 16:49:44
She actually apologized to me.
I took a BIG offense at the slum lord comment --
I heard that and made sure she saw it. (ironically and sadly) she blamed CNN -- I guess she was watching it.
phuck CNN.
Raine on 03/12/2014 16:49:44
Quote by Scoopster:
There ya go Raine.. there's literally hundreds of violations that have NOTHING to do with gas or utilities. Ms. Nancy is quite off-base.
She actually apologized to me.
I took a BIG offense at the slum lord comment --
I heard that and made sure she saw it. (ironically and sadly) she blamed CNN -- I guess she was watching it.
phuck CNN.
Comment by Raine on 03/12/2014 16:51:08
Got it!
I know she meant well, but damn...
STOP making things worse than they are. This is really bad already.
Raine on 03/12/2014 16:51:08
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:It's not as bad as the norm. He was trying to help the firefighter figure out how to pick the next journalist.Quote by wickedpam:
Jeez - people like that make my eye twitch
oh no, I meant your Montana person
I know she meant well, but damn...
STOP making things worse than they are. This is really bad already.
Comment by Scoopster on 03/12/2014 17:28:48
Scoopster on 03/12/2014 17:28:48
Comment by Scoopster on 03/12/2014 17:39:53
Scoopster on 03/12/2014 17:39:53
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!!?!!
My family watched a cousin of mine descend into the horrors of a body riddled with incurable cancer because of this shit being dumped in Vietnam. I'll be damned if they start using it again.
My family watched a cousin of mine descend into the horrors of a body riddled with incurable cancer because of this shit being dumped in Vietnam. I'll be damned if they start using it again.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/12/2014 17:52:30
No. HELL NO!! (Maybe we should have the executives who thought off this spend a month changing bed pans in a cancer ward at a hospital.)
Will in Chicago on 03/12/2014 17:52:30
Quote by Scoopster:
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!!?!!
My family watched a cousin of mine descend into the horrors of a body riddled with incurable cancer because of this shit being dumped in Vietnam. I'll be damned if they start using it again.
No. HELL NO!! (Maybe we should have the executives who thought off this spend a month changing bed pans in a cancer ward at a hospital.)
Comment by 
clintster on 03/12/2014 18:07:25
clintster on 03/12/2014 18:07:25
Welp, we here in Georgia don't have anything to fear any longer; the Lege is protecting us with a giant Ten Commandments monument at the state capitol.
Also please note that the state senate had a vote to place a statue of MLK at the capitol as well. The vote was 49-1. I want to find out who that one is, but i bet that a) he's white, and
he'll excuse it by saying that it would be a "waste of taxpayer dollars" or some such.
Also please note that the state senate had a vote to place a statue of MLK at the capitol as well. The vote was 49-1. I want to find out who that one is, but i bet that a) he's white, and
he'll excuse it by saying that it would be a "waste of taxpayer dollars" or some such.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/12/2014 18:23:18
Will in Chicago on 03/12/2014 18:23:18
BobR, looks like someone has decided to make things even uglier: Paul Ryan cites ‘white nationalist’ to blame poverty on lazy men in ‘inner cities’
Comment by Scoopster on 03/12/2014 18:58:29
Scoopster on 03/12/2014 18:58:29
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/12/2014 19:03:20
Scoop they have never stopped using it.
Mondobubba on 03/12/2014 19:03:20
Quote by Scoopster:
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!!?!!
My family watched a cousin of mine descend into the horrors of a body riddled with incurable cancer because of this shit being dumped in Vietnam. I'll be damned if they start using it again.
Scoop they have never stopped using it.
Comment by Scoopster on 03/12/2014 19:15:01
I was discussing this article with a friend of mine and how the title is really misleading because it's not really about Agent Orange. Yes, the widely-used herbicide that these crops are being GMO'd to resist is part of AO, but by itself it is not particularly problematic (unless it was manufactured poorly and is contaminated by one of the nastiest toxic compounds ever created!)
So I was off-base. A lot. That said I'm still not happy that GMO crops continue to proliferate.
Scoopster on 03/12/2014 19:15:01
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!!?!!
My family watched a cousin of mine descend into the horrors of a body riddled with incurable cancer because of this shit being dumped in Vietnam. I'll be damned if they start using it again.
Scoop they have never stopped using it.
I was discussing this article with a friend of mine and how the title is really misleading because it's not really about Agent Orange. Yes, the widely-used herbicide that these crops are being GMO'd to resist is part of AO, but by itself it is not particularly problematic (unless it was manufactured poorly and is contaminated by one of the nastiest toxic compounds ever created!)
So I was off-base. A lot. That said I'm still not happy that GMO crops continue to proliferate.
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/12/2014 19:33:02
Mondobubba on 03/12/2014 19:33:02
Agent Orange was made of two herbicide, 2,4-D and 2,5-T of the two, 2,5-T is by far and away the more toxic of the two. Which is why it was banned by the EPA in 1979.
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/12/2014 19:48:29
2.4-T has 2,3,7,8-tetrachlorodibenzo-p-dioxin as part of the manufacturing process. That is why it is banned. 2,4-D is made differently, and doesn't contain dioxin.
Mondobubba on 03/12/2014 19:48:29
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!!?!!
My family watched a cousin of mine descend into the horrors of a body riddled with incurable cancer because of this shit being dumped in Vietnam. I'll be damned if they start using it again.
Scoop they have never stopped using it.
I was discussing this article with a friend of mine and how the title is really misleading because it's not really about Agent Orange. Yes, the widely-used herbicide that these crops are being GMO'd to resist is part of AO, but by itself it is not particularly problematic (unless it was manufactured poorly and is contaminated by one of the nastiest toxic compounds ever created!)
So I was off-base. A lot. That said I'm still not happy that GMO crops continue to proliferate.
2.4-T has 2,3,7,8-tetrachlorodibenzo-p-dioxin as part of the manufacturing process. That is why it is banned. 2,4-D is made differently, and doesn't contain dioxin.
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/12/2014 20:01:09
Mondobubba on 03/12/2014 20:01:09
Yes, Mondo knows way, way too much about PCBs, dioxin, Agent Orange and organophosphates in general. Hell, Mondo has a little 3-ring binder that his father gave him for his D&D character sheets that was originally used to hold information about TSCA (the Toxic Substances Control Act) and RCRA (Resource Conservation and Recovery Act). Mondo's father was a charter employee of EPA.
Comment by Mondobubba on 03/12/2014 20:59:57
Mondobubba on 03/12/2014 20:59:57
Mondo's tedious display of uber-nerdism killed the blog?