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Author: Raine    Date: 05/19/2008 07:08:05

Families today face challenges that yesterday's laws simply don't address. We need to fix government, and one solution is to update our laws so they provide America's families with more freedom in their jobs; greater healthcare and retirement security; safer communities; access to quality, affordable education; and the ability for future generations to compete in the global economy.

This week, my colleagues announced the American Families Agenda. This new agenda concentrates on the bread and butter issues facing every American. And it recognizes that today, more and more families struggle with balancing work, children and caring for elderly parents. Over the coming weeks, we will be promoting new ideas that give people more personal freedom and lessen the burden of government.

From young people just starting out and looking for affordable college, to working parents who want more freedom in the workplace, to seniors who would benefit from greater flexibility with their health care and prescription drug benefits, the American Families Agenda provides commonsense solutions that modernize our laws and give people greater liberty.

I look forward to sharing more about solutions and a positive agenda in the weeks to come.
Sounds wonderful, right? It is. But... it is from the NRCC I removed about 8 words. I replaced one.
This, my friends, is what the NRCC has been reduced to. We are less than 6 months away from national elections and they are getting ready to promote NEW ideas with a liberal ideaology. Don't tell them that's what it is... just, well... bless them for seeing the light...
CQPolitics tells us something else:
Something big is missing from House Republicans’ 2008 campaign agenda for American families, and that is no accident.

There’s not a single mention in the 47-point program of such red-meat GOP issues as banning abortion, outlawing same-sex marriage, allowing prayer in the public schools, banning flag burning and protecting the Pledge of Allegiance. Instead, the plan focuses on Republican-introduced ideas as allowing private sector workers to take compensatory time instead of premium pay for overtime worked (HR 6025) or permitting full tax deductibility for most medical expenses (HR 636).

In an effort to appeal to moderates in their uphill push to retake the House, Republicans have pushed divisive social issues off center stage and replaced them with a host of pocketbook items they hope will appeal to working women, moderates and even some Democrats.

“This may not be the family agenda you expected from Republicans,’’ said Rep. Kay Granger , R-Texas, who was in charge of formulating the “American Families Agenda,’’ the first part of the party’s “Change You Deserve’’ 2008 platform. “It is a change. In the past, the Republican agenda for families was about social issues. This is more straight-forward, talking to families where they are, not where you want them to be,’’ Granger added.
Yes, you read that one right, they are taking wedge issues off the table. They are altering things to be on line with democratic issues.

I think the GOP is broken. Maybe desperate. I think it has finally lost its mind and jumped the shark. I have always appreciated TRUE conservatism. That died a long time ago in my eyes. Look at Barry Goldwater for an example. This conservative Republican party has finally been defeated. Not just defeated, but beaten so badly that they need to take from the DNC platform to find any sort of direction. They don't know what to do or where to go but they are going to adopt the basic tenents of *gasp* liberalism.

Now how do you think that is gonna fly with the *base*? Based on the comments from the NRCC blog, not so well. Let me quote a few examples:
What ever happened to "less government and more individual responsibility", Mr. Cole? You sound like a doggone Democrat to me and my family and my friends.

There is no way under the sun that I will vote for Senator McCain regardless of who is put on the ticket with him. No way. Period!

I am disappointed with the TOTAL lack of genuine conservative leadership on the part of you and others heading up the Republican party. I will either stay home, or write in Ron Paul - if that's possible.
Where has the conservative agenda been for the last 12 years? I think it's time to throw all RINO's out of government. If it means the Republican Party collapses, so what? There are very few Republicans with any character. If McCain, that egotistical RINO is the best we can do, there'e no hope for the parts.
You people are so far out of touch it has gone from aggravating to simply sad. You have been sent to DC to do a job. But apparently you are more interested in trying to sound good in the press.

That is but a TINY sampling. you can read it all at the link I gave above.

The reason WHY I post all this is becuase there is something I want to make clear... as always, IMO. This election is still ours to lose. And this election isn't JUST the POTUS. It is the House, Senate and the SCOTUS. We can truly have a watershed moment this November. The GOP has told us how... THEY HAVE NO IDEAS. They do not know what to do. They are scrambling about what to do.

The GOP is the party that told us to be afraid, to be scared, to trust them with our security.. The party that told us how we should live our lives, the party who knew better than women when it came to their own bodies, the party that knew what God wanted, the party that said the free market should decide, the party that deregulated the mortgage industry, the party that told us they were right and we were wrong... The party that mocked the Dems for their approach to foreign affairs - doesn't know what to do! How should we EVER trust them with anything again? Terrorists? WAR? They have admitted they do not know what to do about it. Well, they fairly admitted they have no idea about anything. They are finding that they can't win elections, and now suddenly they have lost their compass. ( Side note: Interesting the power of the vote, huh? You wonder why suddenly it has become harder and harder for Americans to cast a ballot...)

How can we trust them with the handling of the war?? John Boehner was on TV yesterday and when asked about what he is going to do to change things and how, he said 9 times... (NINE) "We will Give Americans the Change they deserve" He also said that 'George W *ush is the past' (no, I am not kidding) and he never gave a name or face to the future...He had a chance to say John McCain is our guy... he didn't. VERY telling.

The GOP has finally realized that it has lost it's direction. This November, the House, Senate and POTUS are ours for the taking, but it is still ours to lose. We need to unify, and get local... work to get people elected in our states and districts.

We need to get EVERYONE in the party behind our nominee... lest we look like the GOP, who clearly has issues with McCain... who called his own wife a c*nt, and who has no problem calling people gooks. If your candidate isn't the nominee, will you vote for McCain? I won't. I will vote for our nominee. We need to come together... I do NOT want our party to look like the GOP. We have a presumptive nominee... I digress, I know... however, PLEASE, Understand this: John McCain is the racist and the sexist we need to defeat.

If this were chess, we would could safely call 'check'. We cannot call call checkmate, because the game is not over. We have to keep going and now they have shown weakness and/or vulnerability ... in November is when we need to call it 'checkmate'.

We are winning... but we have not won yet, and we still have work to do. Get local with the same fervour you have on the national level. Do NOT assume anything. Work from the bottom up. Get more D's in the house and the senate. We have a rare opportunity here. POTUS is very important, but we can make a sea of change elsewhere as well.

Do it. Make change. Opportunity awaits. Our nation depends upon it.
Yes, we can.

:peace: and :heart:

Raine

 

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Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 07:20:25
Digg it if you like it.



Raine is over her insomnia.



::yawn::







Comment by m-hadley on 05/19/2008 12:44:58
Mornin' Raine,

I appreciate your post this morning - do you want me to do the post for next Monday? Is that when your friend will be in town? This week is employee appreciation week here at work - that means bowling today (my goal is to bowl a better score than Barack ) and a picnic on Thursday, but the best part of the week is that we get Friday off Wooo Hooo !!! :)

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:

Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 12:50:35
Quote by Raine:

Digg it if you like it.



Raine is over her insomnia.



::yawn::





Wow -



This is great stuff if it was written during "regular business hours!"



3 am! -- yikes!



Thank you Raine. I hope you are resting now

Comment by TriSec on 05/19/2008 13:05:40
Morning, folks. We're in "calm before the storm" mode here in the office....Friday is NPI day!



I'm always leery of any GOP policy called "American Families" anything....that usually means bad news and more pandering to their "base".

Comment by Scoopster on 05/19/2008 13:09:39
Morning everyone! The countdown has begun, 3 days until the parts for my new do-it-yourself internet rocket arrive. I can't wait to dig my hands into paperboard boxes and anti-static bags and break out my ol' computer toolkit.



The real pain though... is reinstalling & moving all my damn programs. I expect to have Microsoft invalidate my ONLY EVER PURCHASED copy of Windows within a week... damn data mining bastards!

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 13:15:30
Because...Well, I can.



http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk230/RandomObs/clintonmoranszn2.jpg


Comment by BobR on 05/19/2008 13:17:48
Morning folks... :yawn:

Comment by Scoopster on 05/19/2008 13:19:07
You're gonna make me do it.. aren't you?



http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/skewpster/HOTOBAMA.gif


Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 13:19:58
Quote by Scoopster:

You're gonna make me do it.. aren't you?



http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/skewpster/HOTOBAMA.gif


Ha...Yes...I'm behind the times...I am ashamed *goes into the corner*

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 13:21:20
Good morning all.



The right-wingers are sounding extra scrambly now. Was the person who wrote Momma's hate letter able to write inside the big box or did he have to call Lurleen?

Comment by m-hadley on 05/19/2008 13:22:44
Quote by Scoopster:

You're gonna make me do it.. aren't you?



http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/skewpster/HOTOBAMA.gif




Scoopster,

I love what you've done with the place - klassy with a "K" :D

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 13:23:23
Right Wingers are starting to sound like Hillary...



Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 13:37:05
Good morning!



Consider this my 3 am bloggie.



:D

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 13:39:59
I actually went to bed before 3 AM last night. I was so beat after two OT shifts I wanted to just turn in.

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 13:44:36
So, let's pitch that stupid drilling in ANWAR idea so that we can have another are poisoned as the polar ice caps melt.

Comment by BobR on 05/19/2008 13:49:29
Quote by livingonli:

So, let's pitch that stupid drilling in ANWAR idea so that we can have another are poisoned as the polar ice caps melt.


I say the bill should be written so that everyone that votes in favor of drilling in ANWAR has to have a leaky oil rig installed in their backyard.



Comment by wickedpam on 05/19/2008 13:55:51
Morning :hug:

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 13:59:19
Good morning Mala. How was your weekend?

Comment by wickedpam on 05/19/2008 14:02:54
Not bad, just the usual stuff.

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 14:05:23
I was working so I feel pooped and I have a doctor's appointment in an hour.

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 14:07:05
Comment by TriSec on 05/19/2008 14:07:46
Say, Javi and I planted a garden this weekend!



We've got sunflowers, zucchini, tomatoes, eggplant, basil, dill and oregano out back in the vegetable plot.



Out front there's some geraniums, violets, a flower I have no idea what it's called (but was a really neat purple and orange color) and my sainted grandmother's favorite silverdust plants.



I fenced it all off, so here's hoping the 'genius brigade' (apt. complex landscapers) are smart enough not to dig them up...







Comment by wickedpam on 05/19/2008 14:08:02
Happy B-Day Jim

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 14:10:58
Does the Boehner drink at the same watering hole Tom Delay does or does he just imbibe from his private stash?

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 14:11:22
:clap: Shane-O!







Comment by BobR on 05/19/2008 14:14:12
Bad to the Boehner...

Bad to the Boehner...

B-b-b-b-blubbering... :cry:

Bad to the Boehner...


Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 14:16:25
Yay! garden for la familia TriSec!

Comment by BobR on 05/19/2008 14:17:18
Stephanopolouses? Weren't they on H.R. Puff-n-Stuff?

Comment by Scoopster on 05/19/2008 14:18:12
Pardon my language, but WHAT THE FUCK?!



I'm writing a diary to respond to this bullshit (the dude's a known dkos troll) but here's a taste of what I plan to write from a comment I left:

I wasn't even old enough to vote in 1992, but I busted my ass off in the halls of my high school and my neighborhood to help him win Connecticut. I did the same for him in 1996, for Gore in 2000. In 2004, I walked house to house in New Hampshire for John Kerry and helped turn it into a state win.



This year I was campaigning here in Rhode Island for Edwards until he dropped out, laid low for a couple weeks, then turned my attention to Obama because I felt he was not only the better candidate but because Hillary had done absolutely everything possible to lose my trust, and continues to do so to this very day.



There are many of us here whose stories are similar to this. So do us a favor and hold your tongue. We may look like rookies to a old-time political machine activist who despises anything that challenges the party status quo, but I assure you we know what we're doing is for the benefit of the party and if you don't like it then that's too damn bad. You've got the guns, we've got the numbers.


Comment by velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 14:18:23
Good Morning ya'll! How is everyone today?

Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 14:18:54
Thank you BobR and Raine(-O)! And DJ - if you are lurking... SEE - I told you that your bit rocked!





Comment by velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 14:22:27
Quote by Scoopster:

Pardon my language, but WHAT THE FUCK?!



I'm writing a diary to respond to this bullshit (the dude's a known dkos troll) but here's a taste of what I plan to write from a comment I left:

I wasn't even old enough to vote in 1992, but I busted my ass off in the halls of my high school and my neighborhood to help him win Connecticut. I did the same for him in 1996, for Gore in 2000. In 2004, I walked house to house in New Hampshire for John Kerry and helped turn it into a state win.



This year I was campaigning here in Rhode Island for Edwards until he dropped out, laid low for a couple weeks, then turned my attention to Obama because I felt he was not only the better candidate but because Hillary had done absolutely everything possible to lose my trust, and continues to do so to this very day.



There are many of us here whose stories are similar to this. So do us a favor and hold your tongue. We may look like rookies to a old-time political machine activist who despises anything that challenges the party status quo, but I assure you we know what we're doing is for the benefit of the party and if you don't like it then that's too damn bad. You've got the guns, we've got the numbers.




:clap: Ah youth! I love it! Such energy and enthusiasm! When you get old like Velveeta, one becomes apathetic and cynical.



:lol:



But we have "crankiness" on our side!

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 14:22:53
Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Raine,

I appreciate your post this morning - do you want me to do the post for next Monday? Is that when your friend will be in town? This week is employee appreciation week here at work - that means bowling today (my goal is to bowl a better score than Barack ) and a picnic on Thursday, but the best part of the week is that we get Friday off Wooo Hooo !!! :)

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:
heya Faye!



Sounds like a fun week for you! I would VERY much appraciate it if you would take my monday (memorial day) blog. Danke!



Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 14:27:35
Quote by Scoopster:

Pardon my language, but WHAT THE FUCK?!



I'm writing a diary to respond to this bullshit (the dude's a known dkos troll) but here's a taste of what I plan to write from a comment I left:

I wasn't even old enough to vote in 1992, but I busted my ass off in the halls of my high school and my neighborhood to help him win Connecticut. I did the same for him in 1996, for Gore in 2000. In 2004, I walked house to house in New Hampshire for John Kerry and helped turn it into a state win.



This year I was campaigning here in Rhode Island for Edwards until he dropped out, laid low for a couple weeks, then turned my attention to Obama because I felt he was not only the better candidate but because Hillary had done absolutely everything possible to lose my trust, and continues to do so to this very day.



There are many of us here whose stories are similar to this. So do us a favor and hold your tongue. We may look like rookies to a old-time political machine activist who despises anything that challenges the party status quo, but I assure you we know what we're doing is for the benefit of the party and if you don't like it then that's too damn bad. You've got the guns, we've got the numbers.
F*cking A SCOOP!



:rock:





Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 14:35:09
McCainPedia to launch tomorrow!



A one stop shop for ALL opposition research! AND... it is uneditable... :D

Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 14:40:14
Quote by Raine:

McCainPedia to launch tomorrow!



A one stop shop for ALL opposition research! AND... it is uneditable... :D
Wa-Hoo!

I cannot wait!

Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 14:41:23


Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 14:48:56
Oh this is RICH... Yesterday, john BONER told George Staphanapolis that George Bush is the past...



Today we find tht McCain is using him for Fundraising...

To confront the Obama juggernaut, Senator John McCain, whose fund-raising has badly trailed that of his Democratic counterparts, is leaning on the Republican National Committee. Mr. McCain’s efforts to raise money suffered a blow this weekend when a key fund-raiser, Tom Loeffler, resigned because of a new campaign policy on conflicts of interest.



Mr. McCain is likely to depend upon the party, which finished April with an impressive $40 million in the bank and has significantly higher contribution limits, to an unprecedented degree to power his campaign, Republican officials said.



To that end, Republican officials said they were enlisting President Bush, a formidable fund-raiser who has raised more than $36 million this year for Republican candidates and committees, for three events on Mr. McCain’s behalf. They will appear together at a fund-raiser in Phoenix on May 27, and the next day the president will take part in a luncheon with Mitt Romney in Salt Lake City and then an exclusive dinner at Mr. Romney’s vacation home in Park City, Utah.




Comment by wickedpam on 05/19/2008 14:50:47
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

McCainPedia to launch tomorrow!



A one stop shop for ALL opposition research! AND... it is uneditable... :D
Wa-Hoo!

I cannot wait!






SOunds like a smart campaign tool



Comment by velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 14:50:52
This just in from the one and only Mac McFadden:



The Rescue



One day, three boys were walking over a bridge when they heard a guy yelling for help. It was President Bush. He was drowning, and the three boys rescued him. He thanked them dearly and promised them whatever they wanted as a reward.



The first boy wanted $10,000, so Bush gave him the money. The second boy wanted a Ferrari, so Bush gave the boy a Ferrari.



The third boy wanted a wheelchair, Bush said, "Why do you want one of those, son, you're not handicapped."The boy replied, "I will be when my dad finds out whose life I saved."







Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 14:51:50


Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 14:52:13
:sigh: :shrug:

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 14:53:08
*ush is back home from the Middle East.



Bush arrived back in Washington late Sunday with little to show for the trip. Saudi Arabia rebuffed his plea for help with soaring oil prices, Egypt's leader questioned his seriousness about peacemaking and there was not enough progress in the peace talks to warrant a three-way meeting of Bush with Israeli and Palestinian leaders.




TRANSLATION: massive waste of time. Thank you president hoover.

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 14:55:06
Quote by velveeta jones:

This just in from the one and only Mac McFadden:



The Rescue



One day, three boys were walking over a bridge when they heard a guy yelling for help. It was President Bush. He was drowning, and the three boys rescued him. He thanked them dearly and promised them whatever they wanted as a reward.



The first boy wanted $10,000, so Bush gave him the money. The second boy wanted a Ferrari, so Bush gave the boy a Ferrari.



The third boy wanted a wheelchair, Bush said, "Why do you want one of those, son, you're not handicapped."The boy replied, "I will be when my dad finds out whose life I saved."





perfect.



Comment by BobR on 05/19/2008 14:55:32
Quote by Raine:

*ush is back home from the Middle East.



TRANSLATION: massive waste of time. Thank you president hoover.




He certainly sucks like a Hoover...

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 14:55:39
Off to the Doctor I go. Wish me luck. My numbers haven't been too good the last few days.

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 14:56:01
Quote by Mondobubba:

:sigh: :shrug:




Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 14:57:05
Quote by Raine:

*ush is back home from the Middle East.



Bush arrived back in Washington late Sunday with little to show for the trip. Saudi Arabia rebuffed his plea for help with soaring oil prices, Egypt's leader questioned his seriousness about peacemaking and there was not enough progress in the peace talks to warrant a three-way meeting of Bush with Israeli and Palestinian leaders.






TRANSLATION: massive waste of time. Thank you president hoover.




And not to be nit-picky, but...



How much oil did Air Force One burn on the trip?



Comment by wickedpam on 05/19/2008 14:58:41
Jim Webb also said he didn't want to be considered he likes what he's doing now.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/19/2008 14:59:39
Good Luck Liv





Mondo - what's wrong?

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 15:00:05
Comment by m-hadley on 05/19/2008 15:05:11
Quote by Mondobubba:

:sigh: :shrug:




What's up Mondo? Hope that you are doing okay :hug:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 15:07:07
The rude pundit has an opinion...

:unsure:















HE DOES have a Klassy way with the words!

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 15:08:46
Quote by wickedpam:

Jim Webb also said he didn't want to be considered he likes what he's doing now.
So do I.



HE is doing SUCH important work right now.



I still think we can find a GOOD strong VP candidate without taking from the House or the Senate.



Comment by jd_in_ny on 05/19/2008 15:10:13
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Jim Webb also said he didn't want to be considered he likes what he's doing now.
So do I.



HE is doing SUCH important work right now.



I still think we can find a GOOD strong VP candidate without taking from the House or the Senate.



I agree!



Comment by shelaghc on 05/19/2008 15:11:59
I'm trying to decide if someone made an honest error or if I was bamboozled.....



Guten morgen y'all.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/19/2008 15:12:08
Oh that's funny :spit:

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 15:12:50
Red State Update on Gay marriage...







Comment by wickedpam on 05/19/2008 15:13:16
Quote by jd_in_ny:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Jim Webb also said he didn't want to be considered he likes what he's doing now.
So do I.



HE is doing SUCH important work right now.



I still think we can find a GOOD strong VP candidate without taking from the House or the Senate.



I agree!





I concur. I hate to leave the VA seat open to chance.



Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 15:14:16
Quote by shelaghc:

I'm trying to decide if someone made an honest error or if I was bamboozled.....



Guten morgen y'all.
Guten Morgen!



What are you wondering about?



Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 15:15:24
Well according to our VP Ticket Poll, we won't need to nominate a senator.



:d

Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 15:19:07
Fighter bump - Fighter bump!!!

Comment by TriSec on 05/19/2008 15:20:00
Quote by Shane-O:



How much oil did Air Force One burn on the trip?







A Boeing 747 will consume approximately 16 - 17 liters of fuel per kilometer of flight.



So, it's 10,862 km between Dulles and Riyadh, round trip 21,724 km, give or take.



So they used 369,308 liters of avgas, which in American terms is 97,590 gallons.



Jet-A is $6.94/gal at Hanscom Field right now (Boston), so in fuel alone, we blew $677,274 on this trip.





Comment by velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 15:22:23
Wha'sa matter Mondo?



Good luck with the doc Liv.

Comment by shelaghc on 05/19/2008 15:23:09
Quote by Raine:

Quote by shelaghc:

I'm trying to decide if someone made an honest error or if I was bamboozled.....



Guten morgen y'all.
Guten Morgen!



What are you wondering about?


Last week someone from ACORN asked me if I'd be interested in work as a political organizer. I told him I didn't think they could afford me - I needed at least $35k a year and benefits. He said that was possible and I told hi in that case I was interested.



He emailed me and asked me to come in today "I'm having an intake, and you can learn more about the positions available, ok?"



So I wen in and he was recruiting people at $8 an hour for maximum of six hours a day - mandatory fill out of five voter reg forms per hour, 20 per day, 100 per week. He explained that eventually you could move up to something like a team leader at $9 an hour and eventually political organizer w/ bennies.



Not exactly what I was expecting - particularly from his email.



Once there was a chance to talk with him privately, I told him I have a bad back and problems with my feet - no way I could handle this kind of work standing on my feet all day - plus, I need $35k *now* not eventually.



And I told him this wasn't exactly what he indicated when we initially spoke. He apologized and asked if he could pass on my email address to someone else. I agreed and even gave him a copy of my resume.



However......

:shrug:

Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 15:24:07
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Shane-O:



How much oil did Air Force One burn on the trip?







A Boeing 747 will consume approximately 16 - 17 liters of fuel per kilometer of flight.



So, it's 10,862 km between Dulles and Riyadh, round trip 21,724 km, give or take.



So they used 369,308 liters of avgas, which in American terms is 97,590 gallons.



Jet-A is $6.94/gal at Hanscom Field right now (Boston), so in fuel alone, we blew $677,274 on this trip.







May I say how much I LOVE this blog?



Ask a question - a plane-guy, gives you the true answer.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 15:28:30
I'm just feeling a bit beige today guys. Thanks for the hugs n stuff.

Comment by Scoopster on 05/19/2008 15:30:52
Comment by Scoopster on 05/19/2008 15:34:23
Oh and morning Mondo.. y'all ok over there?



I've got just the thing if you're feelin' glum -

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 15:35:06
:ireland:, that sounds a little bit disengenuous from the ACORN folk.

Comment by BobR on 05/19/2008 15:36:22
Quote by shelaghc:



Last week someone from ACORN asked me if I'd be interested in work as a political organizer. I told him I didn't think they could afford me - I needed at least $35k a year and benefits. He said that was possible and I told hi in that case I was interested.



He emailed me and asked me to come in today "I'm having an intake, and you can learn more about the positions available, ok?"



So I wen in and he was recruiting people at $8 an hour for maximum of six hours a day - mandatory fill out of five voter reg forms per hour, 20 per day, 100 per week. He explained that eventually you could move up to something like a team leader at $9 an hour and eventually political organizer w/ bennies.



Not exactly what I was expecting - particularly from his email.



Once there was a chance to talk with him privately, I told him I have a bad back and problems with my feet - no way I could handle this kind of work standing on my feet all day - plus, I need $35k *now* not eventually.



And I told him this wasn't exactly what he indicated when we initially spoke. He apologized and asked if he could pass on my email address to someone else. I agreed and even gave him a copy of my resume.



However......

:shrug:


I hate when that happens - he was wasting your time and his. I'd say it was intentional, and he was hoping you'd like the job enough (or be desperate enough) to take less than the pay you quoted him

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 15:37:40
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Shane-O:



How much oil did Air Force One burn on the trip?







A Boeing 747 will consume approximately 16 - 17 liters of fuel per kilometer of flight.



So, it's 10,862 km between Dulles and Riyadh, round trip 21,724 km, give or take.



So they used 369,308 liters of avgas, which in American terms is 97,590 gallons.



Jet-A is $6.94/gal at Hanscom Field right now (Boston), so in fuel alone, we blew $677,274 on this trip.







May I say how much I LOVE this blog?



Ask a question - a plane-guy, gives you the true answer.




Keep in mind Shane-O that is just the fuel costs. There is a bunch of other stuff as well, like ya know the amount of money spent on planning, salaries of people etc. I'd say well into the millions. Yep another "mission accomplished!" So much for "jawboning the Saudis" Georgie Boy!



Comment by BobR on 05/19/2008 15:37:54
Quote by Mondobubba:

I'm just feeling a bit beige today guys. Thanks for the hugs n stuff.


At least you're not feeling puce...

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 15:38:12


You sir, are my HERO of the day!

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 15:39:03
Quote by Scoopster:

Oh and morning Mondo.. y'all ok over there?



I've got just the thing if you're feelin' glum -






That is not what I need if you get my drift.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/19/2008 15:39:44
slide trombone is what it sounds like to me

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 15:39:59
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

I'm just feeling a bit beige today guys. Thanks for the hugs n stuff.


At least you're not feeling puce...






Indeed. That would imply :puke:

Comment by shelaghc on 05/19/2008 15:42:50
Quote by BobR:

Quote by shelaghc:



Last week someone from ACORN asked me if I'd be interested in work as a political organizer. I told him I didn't think they could afford me - I needed at least $35k a year and benefits. He said that was possible and I told hi in that case I was interested.



He emailed me and asked me to come in today "I'm having an intake, and you can learn more about the positions available, ok?"



So I wen in and he was recruiting people at $8 an hour for maximum of six hours a day - mandatory fill out of five voter reg forms per hour, 20 per day, 100 per week. He explained that eventually you could move up to something like a team leader at $9 an hour and eventually political organizer w/ bennies.



Not exactly what I was expecting - particularly from his email.



Once there was a chance to talk with him privately, I told him I have a bad back and problems with my feet - no way I could handle this kind of work standing on my feet all day - plus, I need $35k *now* not eventually.



And I told him this wasn't exactly what he indicated when we initially spoke. He apologized and asked if he could pass on my email address to someone else. I agreed and even gave him a copy of my resume.



However......

:shrug:


I hate when that happens - he was wasting your time and his. I'd say it was intentional, and he was hoping you'd like the job enough (or be desperate enough) to take less than the pay you quoted him




Well since he was training new recruits already, it was no waste of his time. Ultimately, since I wasn't doing anything else this morning, outside of a ten minute drive each way, no money was lost so I wasn't angry - just not pleased with what he did and how he did it.



I chose not to burn my bridges and told him I respected the work they do and would be happy to post about their need for part time workers. I'm just a little disillusioned about him and his methods considering I was happy to post his information to the drinking liberally list before he did his little dance with me.

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/19/2008 15:43:02
BTW: today's cheese is Hudson Valley Camembert (Sheeps milk). With a bosc pear.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.



:drool:

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 15:46:30
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Shane-O:



How much oil did Air Force One burn on the trip?







A Boeing 747 will consume approximately 16 - 17 liters of fuel per kilometer of flight.



So, it's 10,862 km between Dulles and Riyadh, round trip 21,724 km, give or take.



So they used 369,308 liters of avgas, which in American terms is 97,590 gallons.



Jet-A is $6.94/gal at Hanscom Field right now (Boston), so in fuel alone, we blew $677,274 on this trip.









Pssst Tri not to be a nit picker or anything, but AF-1 doesn't fly into Dulles, sir. It would fly to Andrews AFB. Your calculations are still awsome!

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 15:46:32
HEya Scoop... I actually responded to your diary!



I was a little scaret!







Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 15:50:09
Yay! Yay to that caller It's done on purpose. GRRR

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 15:50:21
Quote by velveeta jones:

BTW: today's cheese is Hudson Valley Camembert (Sheeps milk). With a bosc pear.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.



:drool:
^-^ ears perk up... Hudson Valley? What Farm? what town?



Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 15:53:37
Has anyone noticed that coverage of the Clinton campaign has nearly evaporated over the last five days?

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 15:55:09
Quote by Shane-O:

Has anyone noticed that coverage of the Clinton campaign has nearly evaporated over the last five days?
Refreshing isn't it?



Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 15:57:46
That's EXACTLY what the CA decision was about.



Not "creating" a new right.



Rather, preventing the denial of a right - on the basis of Equal Protection.



Yea, ya - f*cking Wingers - that IS in the Constitution.

Comment by TriSec on 05/19/2008 16:04:00
Quote by Mondobubba:



Pssst Tri not to be a nit picker or anything, but AF-1 doesn't fly into Dulles, sir. It would fly to Andrews AFB. Your calculations are still awsome!






No IATA code for Andrews....Dulles would be close enough for jazz.





Comment by shelaghc on 05/19/2008 16:09:50
Comment by Scoopster on 05/19/2008 16:12:46
Quote by Raine:

HEya Scoop... I actually responded to your diary!



I was a little scaret!


Oooh I saw that and replied.. someone seems to think pointing out objectionable tactics and holding people accountable is race-baiting.



I mean.. did that guy even bother to read and understand what I wrote?

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 16:13:37
Did this person Just use the Nuemburg trials as a reason to NOT prosecute John Yoo?



:thud:

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 16:18:00
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

HEya Scoop... I actually responded to your diary!



I was a little scaret!


Oooh I saw that and replied.. someone seems to think pointing out objectionable tactics and holding people accountable is race-baiting.



I mean.. did that guy even bother to read and understand what I wrote?
I don't think he did, I think he just read one comment and assumed I was race baiting. Project much?











Comment by m-hadley on 05/19/2008 16:18:16
Oh Thom,

You lost lots of respect from me, by having Ward "Not a Real Indian" Churchill on your show. Mr. Churchill has been completely discredited in Indian Country for his claims to be Native and his inablility to prove his Native heritage (he was adopted by the United Keetowah Band of Cherokee as an honor back when the UKB did that sort of thing - they no longer grant honorary membership to outsiders). He has based his entire career on a lie and when he was exposed - he turned to academic freedom for support and folks like Thom Hartmann apparetnly bought into it - how sad Just my two cents...

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Scoopster on 05/19/2008 16:18:37
Quote by shelaghc:

Do any of our geeks know anything about this DVD burner?

And if so, what do you think?


Not the exact same model, but close!



Tom's Hardware is one of the better review & testing sites for computer equipment I've found on the net.. was a BIG help in picking out low-cost quality parts for the new computer I'm building.

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 16:22:23
Israel is talking with Hamas? Wow, Bush REALLY is the great Uniter. :sarcasm:





Will he call Israel 'Nazi appeasers' too?

Comment by shelaghc on 05/19/2008 16:31:30
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by shelaghc:

Do any of our geeks know anything about this DVD burner?

And if so, what do you think?


Not the exact same model, but close!



Tom's Hardware is one of the better review & testing sites for computer equipment I've found on the net.. was a BIG help in picking out low-cost quality parts for the new computer I'm building.


It looks like the make is a good one. Thanks!

I'm considering getting the GSA-E10L from Overstock.com because I have about $40 in GCs from them - nice to get something like this for only about $25, right?



Thanks again for the info.



btw, is refurbished a bad thing?

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 16:35:48
Quote by m-hadley:

Oh Thom,

You lost lots of respect from me, by having Ward "Not a Real Indian" Churchill on your show. Mr. Churchill has been completely discredited in Indian Country for his claims to be Native and his inablility to prove his Native heritage (he was adopted by the United Keetowah Band of Cherokee as an honor back when the UKB did that sort of thing - they no longer grant honorary membership to outsiders). He has based his entire career on a lie and when he was exposed - he turned to academic freedom for support and folks like Thom Hartmann apparetnly bought into it - how sad Just my two cents...

Cheers,

mfaye
I wasn't sure who that was when I asked that question. (see below)



I did not know that was why he was discredited. Interesting, Faye. I learn something new everyday here on this blog.



What a shame.











Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 16:37:20
You know, I love you guys, (all of you!) so don't take what I am gonna say as a slight.



I miss :star:ling.

Comment by shelaghc on 05/19/2008 16:40:41
Quote by Raine:

You know, I love you guys, (all of you!) so don't take what I am gonna say as a slight.



I miss :star:ling.




Where'd she go?



Comment by m-hadley on 05/19/2008 16:43:30
Quote by Raine:

Did this person Just use the Nuemburg trials as a reason to NOT prosecute John Yoo?



:thud:




Raine,

Here is a story that explains Indian County's beef with Ward Churchill BTB, where is Starling - is she okay? Please fill me in... :hug:

Cheers,

mfaye :D







Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 16:57:40
And I'm back. Blood Sugar numbers still too high and no change in weight. Fortunately, I will be seeing the Endocrinologist tomorrow morning and we'll see what she says. I need some regimen that's going to help me lose weight and get my blood sugar down that works with my crappy schedule.

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 16:58:42
I think Ms. Starling is simply OVER the primary race. I can totally understand. She will be back, but like most of us, I am sure she just needs a rest.





Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 17:03:37
I know I'm over the primary race. I think I need a nap.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/19/2008 17:05:46
Quote by livingonli:

And I'm back. Blood Sugar numbers still too high and no change in weight. Fortunately, I will be seeing the Endocrinologist tomorrow morning and we'll see what she says. I need some regimen that's going to help me lose weight and get my blood sugar down that works with my crappy schedule.






*cough*weightwatchers*cough*





My endo recommended them, and in total I've lost about 42lbs. It's really easy and you can eat pretty much what you want (within reason) of course.

Comment by wickedpam on 05/19/2008 17:06:15
Oh and Liv I know it's a struggle, trust me :hug:

Comment by shelaghc on 05/19/2008 17:06:17
I missed this until today.



Sgt. Matthis Chiroux Refuses to be Deployed to Iraq





Comment by wickedpam on 05/19/2008 17:07:41
Quote by Raine:

I think Ms. Starling is simply OVER the primary race. I can totally understand. She will be back, but like most of us, I am sure she just needs a rest.







Or she's just busy with work

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 17:10:02
Going out to lunch. Be back in a few!

Raine

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 17:24:07
I am annoyed...

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 17:40:25
Quote by wickedpam:

Oh and Liv I know it's a struggle, trust me :hug:


Thanks.

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 17:42:57
Quote by Random:

I am annoyed...


What'sa matter?

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 17:49:55
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

I am annoyed...


What'sa matter?


besides spending an hour and a half trying re-install an XP OS on my laptop before relizing the disk i was using was for a DELL only (one of home PC's...I didn't steal it).

I was just reading the liveblog for about the time i left...and really wish i could have defended what i said to our lovely friends Clay and DRII.

Comment by TriSec on 05/19/2008 17:55:48
Don't be mad. Listen to the Chillcast.



Anji will make everything better.





Comment by TriSec on 05/19/2008 18:28:52
Great. I killed the blog.





Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 18:35:06
Quote by TriSec:

Don't be mad. Listen to the Chillcast.



Anji will make everything better.





Ohh no you didn't. It's hard to get online when you comp is in the process of wiping clean your hardrive and installing a new OS...that and when someone is distracted by playing GTA IV.

Comment by starling310 on 05/19/2008 18:48:30
:: scans blog :: Awwww Raine!!! Miss you too!

I am suffering a bit of Primary Exhaustion; I am dehydrated and need to spend time with my family. :P



I have also been pretty busy at work, which hasn't allowed much time for DA BLOG!

Bastids.



Raine, I got your message. I will return it...promise!



My weekend was exciting. The Lady Friend nearly killed my kitties.

Farley ------>

Sophie ----->

Apparently, Lilies and Kitties? Not so much. Lilies are poisonous to animals (Renal Failure within a week), so the lovely bouquet, of stargazer lilies, that she brought me sent my babies to the Animal Emergency at 12 am Saturday night. They still aren't home. They are being held at the vet and given fluids via IV.

Of course, as all of you will remember little Farley has a heart condition which makes him susceptible to said fluid going into his lungs.

By tomorrow afternoon, we should know if we're in the clear! So 2 candles are lit and my stomach is in knots. Just hoping that they are home soon.



As far as the Primaries go.....um, Hillary? If it was the Popular Vote that mattered, Al Gore would be President!



Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 18:50:43
I come back to hear a woman saying that she won't vote for ANYTHING besides Hillary as THE nominee?



Was she a dem BEFORE HRC became a presidential candidate? Did she vote for Kerry? Al? Bill? ANY of the other MEN who have been democratic party candidates in the past?



These are serious questions that need to be asked of these people who say they would never vote for ANYTHING less than Hillary as the nominee. IT is selfish and bad for the democratic party. John Kerry was NOT my chosen candidate in '04, but I knew what was good for our country, and I did not spite myself for my own selfish gains.



This is something that I seriously wish ALL those that have radio shows would ask people.



HE everyone... I am back. and I am SO sleepy.



I would never be able to answer that 3 am phone call. :D

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 18:55:43
Oh, So sorry about the cats. ~~~~~~~ major healing vibes ~~~~~~~

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 19:01:21
Hillary's Math 101: (it's kinda like calculus, very hard to understand)

Today's Lesson, How to tally the popular vote:



Teacher: "Welcome class, today we shall talk about how to tally the popular vote, and hence, decide the winner of the democratic nomination process. First, we shall take the results of all the Primaries."



Student: "But what about all the caucuses, like Iowa?"



Teacher: "Caucuses are unfair, and therefore should not be counted in any serious election."



Student: "Well, what about Michigan, Only one candidate was on the ballet?"



Teacher: "That is fair, after all, the other candidate took his name off because he was making a political move to satisfy the elitists in control of the party. Now, with all the primaries, you throw in the popular vote totals of Puerto Rico."



Student: "But Puerto Rico doesn't take part in the General election."



Teacher: "That doesn't matter, because their voices will be heard and we must listen. After all, we don't want to silence a place just because it is different."



Student: "Then why silence Caucuses."



(Silence)



Teacher: "Get out of my classroom."



Come Back next time were we talk about BIG states vs little states.

Comment by TriSec on 05/19/2008 19:02:38
TriSec and the 3am call...





*ringy-dingy*



grumble, grunt, grope...."TriSec here, what's the trouble?"



:hemming and hawing:



"Ok, is anybody bleeding? Is anything on fire? Are enemy tanks storming our beaches? No? Call me at a decent hour, then."



*click*





Comment by shelaghc on 05/19/2008 19:22:08
Star - so so sorry to hear about your kitties! I'm sure you sweetie is feeling horribly as well.



I'll light a candle for you and them tonight too and give both of my kitties hugs for yours.



Comment by TriSec on 05/19/2008 19:25:25
Ya know what I think the biggest problem and/or challenge the president-elect is going to face?



The world seems to have passed us by. I think over the last 8 years, we've become increasingly irrelevant on the global stage, and the rest of the world has discovered that they're getting along just fine without us.



Question is, is that good or bad?



Discuss.





Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 19:26:25
Farley:
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/animated_candle.gif




Sophie:
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/animated_candle.gif




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Comment by starling310 on 05/19/2008 19:28:43
Tri! You are so right!



Comment by BobR on 05/19/2008 19:28:57
Quote by shelaghc:



It looks like the make is a good one. Thanks!

I'm considering getting the GSA-E10L from Overstock.com because I have about $40 in GCs from them - nice to get something like this for only about $25, right?



Thanks again for the info.



btw, is refurbished a bad thing?


refurbished isn't bad if it comes with a decent warranty and the company backs it up.

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 19:31:18
Okay...my thing wasn't funny...gotcha. And best of luck to your kitties .



Comment by Scoopster on 05/19/2008 19:40:52
And now.. it's time for the afternoon sugar rush!



We begin the festivities with some Rapidshare math geek fun:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8486/rapidsharemr6.jpg




Next we move on to the 4chan archives for massive quantities of epic win (links only posted due to size):

http://www.psie-online.net/Imm/Varie/Random06.jpg

http://www.psie-online.net/Imm/Varie/Random07.jpg



And finally from Rawstory.. Elderly Aussies are taking it off to get their pensions.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 19:41:22
Quote by starling310:

:: scans blog :: Awwww Raine!!! Miss you too!

I am suffering a bit of Primary Exhaustion; I am dehydrated and need to spend time with my family. :P



I have also been pretty busy at work, which hasn't allowed much time for DA BLOG!

Bastids.



Raine, I got your message. I will return it...promise!



My weekend was exciting. The Lady Friend nearly killed my kitties.

Farley ------>

Sophie ----->

Apparently, Lilies and Kitties? Not so much. Lilies are poisonous to animals (Renal Failure within a week), so the lovely bouquet, of stargazer lilies, that she brought me sent my babies to the Animal Emergency at 12 am Saturday night. They still aren't home. They are being held at the vet and given fluids via IV.

Of course, as all of you will remember little Farley has a heart condition which makes him susceptible to said fluid going into his lungs.

By tomorrow afternoon, we should know if we're in the clear! So 2 candles are lit and my stomach is in knots. Just hoping that they are home soon.



As far as the Primaries go.....um, Hillary? If it was the Popular Vote that mattered, Al Gore would be President!







Ack! Poor kitties du Star. Rio, Cassie, Missy send cat healing vibes!

Comment by shelaghc on 05/19/2008 19:42:15
Quote by BobR:

Quote by shelaghc:



It looks like the make is a good one. Thanks!

I'm considering getting the GSA-E10L from Overstock.com because I have about $40 in GCs from them - nice to get something like this for only about $25, right?



Thanks again for the info.



btw, is refurbished a bad thing?


refurbished isn't bad if it comes with a decent warranty and the company backs it up.




Warranty is about thirty days but it's through Overstock. They're generally pretty good about covering what they sell.



btw, Bobr - did you send out the disks yet?



Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 19:46:26
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Mondobubba:



Pssst Tri not to be a nit picker or anything, but AF-1 doesn't fly into Dulles, sir. It would fly to Andrews AFB. Your calculations are still awsome!






No IATA code for Andrews....Dulles would be close enough for jazz.









:rolls eyes: whatever!

Comment by wickedpam on 05/19/2008 19:49:12
Star - ~~~~~~:hug: Kitties ~~~~~~~ Here's to their speedy return to good health and trip home :hug:

Comment by TriSec on 05/19/2008 19:55:53
I am well aware of the home field for VC-25A 28000 and 29000, sir.



:harrumph:



It's AF1 only when the 'president' is aboard... If Mr. Bush wanted to fly his old F-106, he would have callsign AF1, it belongs to the president, not the aircraft.





Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 20:00:18
Quote by TriSec:

I am well aware of the home field for VC-25A 28000 and 29000, sir.



:harrumph:



It's AF1 only when the 'president' is aboard... If Mr. Bush wanted to fly his old F-106, he would have callsign AF1, it belongs to the president, not the aircraft.









:Mondo staggers to the closest fainting couch, beaten with the vast av-dorkery of TriSec: I shall not tangle with the master again. :weak: :sips fainter thru a bendy straw:

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 20:00:26
And now it's time to head off to the salt mine.

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 20:07:07
This is disgusting. I don't know if Randi mentioned it, but it is pure Bribery and a disgrace to our democracy, imo.



Superdelegates turn down 1 Million Dollar Offer from Clinton Donor.


One of Sen. Hillary Clinton's top financial supporters offered $1 million to the Young Democrats of America during a phone conversation in which he also pressed for the organization's two uncommitted superdelegates to endorse the New York Democrat, a high-ranking official with YDA told The Huffington Post.



Haim Saban, the billionaire entertainment magnate and longtime Clinton supporter, denied the allegation. But four independent sources said that just before the North Carolina and Indiana primaries, Saban called YDA President David Hardt and offered what was perceived as a lucrative proposal: $1 million would be made available for the group if Hardt and the organization's other superdelegate backed Clinton.


Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 20:12:04
Quote by Raine:

This is disgusting. I don't know if Randi mentioned it, but it is pure Bribery and a disgrace to our democracy, imo.



Superdelegates turn down 1 Million Dollar Offer from Clinton Donor.


One of Sen. Hillary Clinton's top financial supporters offered $1 million to the Young Democrats of America during a phone conversation in which he also pressed for the organization's two uncommitted superdelegates to endorse the New York Democrat, a high-ranking official with YDA told The Huffington Post.



Haim Saban, the billionaire entertainment magnate and longtime Clinton supporter, denied the allegation. But four independent sources said that just before the North Carolina and Indiana primaries, Saban called YDA President David Hardt and offered what was perceived as a lucrative proposal: $1 million would be made available for the group if Hardt and the organization's other superdelegate backed Clinton.


I'm just a scosh bit sick



Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 20:20:44
Quote by Raine:

This is disgusting. I don't know if Randi mentioned it, but it is pure Bribery and a disgrace to our democracy, imo.



Superdelegates turn down 1 Million Dollar Offer from Clinton Donor.


One of Sen. Hillary Clinton's top financial supporters offered $1 million to the Young Democrats of America during a phone conversation in which he also pressed for the organization's two uncommitted superdelegates to endorse the New York Democrat, a high-ranking official with YDA told The Huffington Post.



Haim Saban, the billionaire entertainment magnate and longtime Clinton supporter, denied the allegation. But four independent sources said that just before the North Carolina and Indiana primaries, Saban called YDA President David Hardt and offered what was perceived as a lucrative proposal: $1 million would be made available for the group if Hardt and the organization's other superdelegate backed Clinton.


http://zerotosixty.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/medium_dr_evil_1.jpg


Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 20:37:58
Dr. Evil kilt the blog...

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 20:41:05
....I'm being ignored....O.O Okay...i am that needy!

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 20:42:22
No the blog is resting. Pining for the fjords n stuff.

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 20:45:45
Warren Buffet endorses Barack Obama:
Warren Buffett, the world's richest man, is backing Barak Obama for US president and thinks current US economic policy will push the dollar lower against other global currencies.



Buffett told a press conference here Monday he had offered support to both Obama and Democratic rival Hillary Clinton but that since it appeared Obama would win the party's nomination, "I will be very happy if he is elected president.



"He is my choice," Buffett said.



Commenting on the US economy, the 77-year-old investor who is known as the "Sage of Omaha," stressed that fiscal, monetary and trade policies were of great importance.
From the AFP.

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 20:52:26
This is getting Good.



http://k43.pbase.com/o5/42/267742/1/68416045.wGDPMlLK.popcorn.gif




Update at 3:15 p.m. ET.
More from Obama.



USA TODAY's Fredreka Schouten, who is covering the Obama campaign today, reports from Billings, Mont., that:



Referring to McCain's critcism of his willingness to meet with leaders like Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Obama said: "Although we still have a number of contest including Montana until we secure the nomination ... you already see the kind of strategy that Republicans are hoping to be using in November."



Obama likened meeting with Iran's leader to the negotiations between the Soviet Union and American presidents during the height of the Cold War. His comments came during a rally at West Billings High School, where Obama is spending the day. The state votes June 3.



"The Soviet Union had the ability to destroy the world several times over," Obama said during the rally. "The threat from Iran is grave, but what we've said is that we shouldn't just talk to our friends, we should be able to engage our enemies as well."



Update at 1:30 p.m. ET. In Montana a few minutes ago, MSNBC reports, Obama asked "what are John McCain and George Bush afraid of?" He said he does not fear a "propaganda battle" with Iran" and that the reason Iran has gained influence in recent years is because of "Bush-McCain policies."



Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 21:01:47
Quote by Raine:

Warren Buffet endorses Barack Obama:
Warren Buffett, the world's richest man, is backing Barak Obama for US president and thinks current US economic policy will push the dollar lower against other global currencies.



Buffett told a press conference here Monday he had offered support to both Obama and Democratic rival Hillary Clinton but that since it appeared Obama would win the party's nomination, "I will be very happy if he is elected president.



"He is my choice," Buffett said.



Commenting on the US economy, the 77-year-old investor who is known as the "Sage of Omaha," stressed that fiscal, monetary and trade policies were of great importance.
From the AFP.
JIMMY BUFFET!



Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 21:03:23
Random... are you near that wildfire in South Florida?

Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 21:03:37
Quote by Raine:

Dr. Evil kilt the blog...




Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 21:06:52
Quote by Raine:

Random... are you near that wildfire in South Florida?


Hm...you mean the Everglades burning? not some other Wildfire, right?

I'm reasonably close to the Everglades.

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 21:12:26
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Random... are you near that wildfire in South Florida?


Hm...you mean the Everglades burning? not some other Wildfire, right?

I'm reasonably close to the Everglades.
Yeah that one.



Oh dear. please stay safe.



Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 21:14:55
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Random... are you near that wildfire in South Florida?


Hm...you mean the Everglades burning? not some other Wildfire, right?

I'm reasonably close to the Everglades.
Yeah that one.



Oh dear. please stay safe.

Ahh, I'll be fine, I've survived, Andrew, Wilma, Charlie, Katrina, no measly fire can take me out.



Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 21:16:44
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Dr. Evil kilt the blog...


:rofl: get's me every time.



If what Randi is saying according to WaPo... HRC will be the VP candidate.



I am suspect about that article to tell you the truth. But I will say this now, if she is the VP. I will be ok with that. I want this OVER already!



John McCain is the REAL Dr. Evil...



hmmmm

I smell a photoshop fun

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 21:18:34
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Random... are you near that wildfire in South Florida?


Hm...you mean the Everglades burning? not some other Wildfire, right?

I'm reasonably close to the Everglades.
Yeah that one.



Oh dear. please stay safe.

Ahh, I'll be fine, I've survived, Andrew, Wilma, Charlie, Katrina, no measly fire can take me out.

Alrighty then.



Just know you have good thoughts from the ATl, friend. It's what we do at 4F. ;)



Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 21:20:42
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Random... are you near that wildfire in South Florida?


Hm...you mean the Everglades burning? not some other Wildfire, right?

I'm reasonably close to the Everglades.
Yeah that one.



Oh dear. please stay safe.

Ahh, I'll be fine, I've survived, Andrew, Wilma, Charlie, Katrina, no measly fire can take me out.

Alrighty then.



Just know you have good thoughts from the ATl, friend. It's what we do at 4F. ;)

The ATl?



Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 21:26:43
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Dr. Evil kilt the blog...


:rofl: get's me every time.



If what Randi is saying according to WaPo... HRC will be the VP candidate.



I am suspect about that article to tell you the truth. But I will say this now, if she is the VP. I will be ok with that. I want this OVER already!



John McCain is the REAL Dr. Evil...



hmmmm

I smell a photoshop fun




I don't think much photoshop work we be required for that one...

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 21:31:19
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Dr. Evil kilt the blog...


:rofl: get's me every time.



If what Randi is saying according to WaPo... HRC will be the VP candidate.



I am suspect about that article to tell you the truth. But I will say this now, if she is the VP. I will be ok with that. I want this OVER already!



John McCain is the REAL Dr. Evil...



hmmmm

I smell a photoshop fun




I don't think much photoshop work we be required for that one...


just a lil pinky here, a lil pinky there, and Lieberman with an eyepatch

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 21:32:04
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Random... are you near that wildfire in South Florida?


Hm...you mean the Everglades burning? not some other Wildfire, right?

I'm reasonably close to the Everglades.
Yeah that one.



Oh dear. please stay safe.

Ahh, I'll be fine, I've survived, Andrew, Wilma, Charlie, Katrina, no measly fire can take me out.

Alrighty then.



Just know you have good thoughts from the ATl, friend. It's what we do at 4F. ;)

The ATl?



She might have meant the ATL I think.

Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 21:35:50
Quote by Random:

just a lil pinky here, a lil pinky there, and Lieberman with an eyepatch




Oh PLEASE - someone who is good with The Photoshop, PLEASE try that one! -- Lieberman as Number 2 - HA!

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 21:36:05
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Random... are you near that wildfire in South Florida?


Hm...you mean the Everglades burning? not some other Wildfire, right?

I'm reasonably close to the Everglades.
Yeah that one.



Oh dear. please stay safe.

Ahh, I'll be fine, I've survived, Andrew, Wilma, Charlie, Katrina, no measly fire can take me out.

Alrighty then.



Just know you have good thoughts from the ATl, friend. It's what we do at 4F. ;)

The ATl?



She might have meant the ATL I think.
yes...doesn't mean i know what ATL means...



Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 21:40:21
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:

just a lil pinky here, a lil pinky there, and Lieberman with an eyepatch




Oh PLEASE - someone who is good with The Photoshop, PLEASE try that one! -- Lieberman as Number 2 - HA!


Lizard woma-I mean Cindy as Frau Farbissina. and bush as mini-me.

...Almost thinking a better line-up would have El Presidente as Dr. Evil, Cheney as number 2, Condi as Frau, and McCain as mini-me

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 21:42:54
ATL or the ATL = Atlanta. Raine and BobR live in the Atlanta area.

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 21:52:25
Quote by livingonli:

ATL or the ATL = Atlanta. Raine and BobR live in the Atlanta area.


...Ohh...Well, now i feel sorry for them.

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 22:19:13
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/dr_McEvil.jpg


Photoshop fun. Please, feel free to use this as needed. ;)

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 22:24:53
Give me your requests... I am game.



And don't feel sorry for me Random! I am a BLUE STATE NY'r. I moved for love...



Gimme a pix, I am down for the challenge. Shane-O and DJ (you crazy lurker you) can do the sound, I am the photoshop queen. :D





You want LIEberman as the patch dude? I can do.

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 22:28:45
Quote by Raine:





And don't feel sorry for me Random! I am a BLUE STATE NY'r. I moved for love...



yeah...But i don't like Atlanta.



Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 22:31:15
How about LIEberman with a soul patch?

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 22:34:49
The ATL isn't bad.Georgia... the STATE,, a whole 'nother discussion.



My Rep. is JOHN LEWIS you know. I mean seriously, JOHN LEWIS.



We actually made a part of where we were going to live in the ATL based upon who our representative would be. No lie.









Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 22:37:24
Quote by livingonli:

How about LIEberman with a soul patch?


Gimme an image age to work from. I can do it. Just gimme something to work from.

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 22:38:17
I have found that the only good place in Georgia is Savannah.



Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 22:45:38
Come visit La casa de BRaine. (aka Bob and Raine)



Mondo will tell you that the ATL isn't that bad... When you stay with us.







Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 22:47:30
Bush being edited?



As it appeared on "Nightly News" Sunday and the "Today" show Monday, Bush's response was: "You know, my policies haven't changed, but evidently the political calendar has ... And when, you know, a leader of Iran says that they want to destroy Israel, you've got to take those words seriously."



But the White House said NBC edited out these words that Bush said between those two sentences: "People need to read the speech. You didn't get it exactly right, either. What I said was that we need to take the words of people seriously."







Alright...I may just be slow, but i don't particularly get why the white house is so mad about the way that quote was edited.

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 22:49:18
Quote by Raine:

Come visit La casa de BRaine. (aka Bob and Raine)



Mondo will tell you that the ATL isn't that bad... When you stay with us.







That...Is...just...a...bit...creepy



Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 22:54:41
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Come visit La casa de BRaine. (aka Bob and Raine)



Mondo will tell you that the ATL isn't that bad... When you stay with us.







That...Is...just...a...bit...creepy







When we gett together, look out. The city of Washington, DC can attest to that.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 22:55:04
Quote by Raine:

Come visit La casa de BRaine. (aka Bob and Raine)



Mondo will tell you that the ATL isn't that bad... When you stay with us.











Atlanta is a lil Blue spot in an otherwise red state. You will have fun hangin' with the Bob and the Raine. :Squid Billies: They mharried. They drink!

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 22:58:48
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Come visit La casa de BRaine. (aka Bob and Raine)



Mondo will tell you that the ATL isn't that bad... When you stay with us.







That...Is...just...a...bit...creepy







When we gett together, look out. The city of Washington, DC can attest to that.


It's sweet, but i just don't bend that way.

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 23:02:54
Quote by Random:

Bush being edited?



As it appeared on "Nightly News" Sunday and the "Today" show Monday, Bush's response was: "You know, my policies haven't changed, but evidently the political calendar has ... And when, you know, a leader of Iran says that they want to destroy Israel, you've got to take those words seriously."



But the White House said NBC edited out these words that Bush said between those two sentences: "People need to read the speech. You didn't get it exactly right, either. What I said was that we need to take the words of people seriously."







Alright...I may just be slow, but i don't particularly get why the white house is so mad about the way that quote was edited.
BEcuae they have been pwned.



They (the WH) F*cked up. and now they are grasping at straws by trying to blame the media for not towing the line.



The fact that the WH is attacking the PRESS is telling.



Guess what? The WH is losing the propaganda war. BIG TIME. When they have to go after the press, that means nothing more than they know something that we have known for quite a while, This administration lies.



and... they got caught, NOW they are trying to worm out of it. Instead of taking responsibility for a terrible blunder, they choose to blame the messenger.



It's WH spin and bad spin at that.

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 23:07:58
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Bush being edited?



As it appeared on "Nightly News" Sunday and the "Today" show Monday, Bush's response was: "You know, my policies haven't changed, but evidently the political calendar has ... And when, you know, a leader of Iran says that they want to destroy Israel, you've got to take those words seriously."



But the White House said NBC edited out these words that Bush said between those two sentences: "People need to read the speech. You didn't get it exactly right, either. What I said was that we need to take the words of people seriously."







Alright...I may just be slow, but i don't particularly get why the white house is so mad about the way that quote was edited.
BEcuae they have been pwned.



They (the WH) F*cked up. and now they are grasping at straws by trying to blame the media for not towing the line.



The fact that the WH is attacking the PRESS is telling.



Guess what? The WH is losing the propaganda war. BIG TIME. When they have to go after the press, that means nothing more than they know something that we have known for quite a while, This administration lies.



and... they got caught, NOW they are trying to worm out of it. Instead of taking responsibility for a terrible blunder, they choose to blame the messenger.



It's WH spin and bad spin at that.




I find it oddly telling that he says, read the speech, not watch/listen to it, since it was apparently filmed...



Bush: I...uh...say you should go back and...uh...read that speech. It has all that correctedness that the cameras get wrong. hehe, that cute blonde woman who always does that talkin thing to the press corrected it for me, hehe. Ohh, i'd want that...but...uh...Condi would kill me if i did...or even thought about it.

*frying-pan*

Bush: Condi! where'd you get that frying pan... ... ... (I...suck)



Comment by Mondobubba on 05/19/2008 23:08:07
Are we still waiting for some film to be developed?

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 23:16:56
Quote by Mondobubba:

Are we still waiting for some film to be developed?


We are still waiting for a certain picture to show up that was taken in and faye's room. :D

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 23:20:38
http://floatingaway.blogs.com/weblog/images/lieberman.jpg




I told Alf not to eat the cat while I'm out of the house.

Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 23:26:04
Quote by Raine:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa213/FourFreedoms/dr_McEvil.jpg


Photoshop fun. Please, feel free to use this as needed. ;)






I LOVE IT!!!



(sorry for the slow response -- I had to go grab some food)

Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 23:27:50
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060808/060808_lieberman_hmed_330a.h2.jpg


Wanna try this one in photoshop?

Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 23:29:22
Quote by livingonli:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060808/060808_lieberman_hmed_330a.h2.jpg


Wanna try this one in photoshop?


I suppose the Nazi treatment that photo is almost asking for isn't in the best of taste.

Comment by Shane-O on 05/19/2008 23:30:29
Raine - that's just got to go to Chris for the SMS Photoshop Fun section.





Comment by TriSec on 05/19/2008 23:35:27
: peers into blog :



Ah, Random. The ATL is an easy to remember acronym...



You'll find I tend to use IATA airport codes a lot whene referring to locations, with the correct country code, too. (KBED is my home field, you could look it up.)





Comment by livingonli on 05/19/2008 23:41:23
I was shooting for using it for a soul patch reference. A Nazi reference would be in really bad taste. (You could also make the flag look like a Communist one).

Comment by shelaghc on 05/19/2008 23:42:49
Lookie at the new addition to my serving bar!



http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000azasx/s320x240




http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000b03ce/s320x240




And Mom pretend-pouring herself a drink!



http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000ayyyw/s320x240


Comment by Random on 05/19/2008 23:53:53
Quote by livingonli:

I was shooting for using it for a soul patch reference. A Nazi reference would be in really bad taste. (You could also make the flag look like a Communist one).


I am well aware of that...but that Arm...It Screams for it...SCREAMS!

Yes...I am troubled.

Comment by Raine on 05/19/2008 23:57:24
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Are we still waiting for some film to be developed?


We are still waiting for a certain picture to show up that was taken in and faye's room. :D
I have seen said photos!



We are now waiting for a certain person to scan and get them on the sight.









Comment by shelaghc on 05/19/2008 23:59:01
Quote by shelaghc:

Lookie at the new addition to my serving bar!



http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000azasx/s320x240




http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000b03ce/s320x240




And Mom pretend-pouring herself a drink!



http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000ayyyw/s320x240




Finally got 'em to work!





Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 00:03:30
Quote by Random:

Bush being edited?



As it appeared on "Nightly News" Sunday and the "Today" show Monday, Bush's response was: "You know, my policies haven't changed, but evidently the political calendar has ... And when, you know, a leader of Iran says that they want to destroy Israel, you've got to take those words seriously."



But the White House said NBC edited out these words that Bush said between those two sentences: "People need to read the speech. You didn't get it exactly right, either. What I said was that we need to take the words of people seriously."







Alright...I may just be slow, but i don't particularly get why the white house is so mad about the way that quote was edited.
KO is running THE ENTIRE answer tonite...:lol:



So we get to see what the media missed.



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 00:06:00
Quote by shelaghc:

Quote by shelaghc:

Lookie at the new addition to my serving bar!



http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000azasx/s320x240




http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000b03ce/s320x240




And Mom pretend-pouring herself a drink!



http://pics.livejournal.com/shelaghc/pic/000ayyyw/s320x240




Finally got 'em to work!



OMG! momma



ShelaghC, I love the new set, but I love that picture of your mom even more.



Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 00:08:20
I will do the photoshopping tomorrow. I am in KO Zone right now.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 00:13:43
For the record, HRC said that Karl Rove said she has a good chance...



Uhm...



HRC... when did KArl Rove EVER have a say in our races?



*sigh*



She is using a criminal as an indicator for her campaign. Good gawd.

Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 00:15:37
Quote by Raine:

For the record, HRC said that Karl Rove said she has a good chance...



Uhm...



HRC... when did KArl Rove EVER have a say in our races?



*sigh*



She is using a criminal as an indicator for her campaign. Good gawd.


If HRC is taking advice from Karl Rove, how can Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame still support her considering what Rove has done to them?

Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 00:22:14
I bored...

Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 00:22:20
I bored...

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 00:28:55
Quote by Random:

I bored...






: does a series of Bluto Blutarsky moves:

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 00:30:07
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

For the record, HRC said that Karl Rove said she has a good chance...



Uhm...



HRC... when did KArl Rove EVER have a say in our races?



*sigh*



She is using a criminal as an indicator for her campaign. Good gawd.


If HRC is taking advice from Karl Rove, how can Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame still support her considering what Rove has done to them?
VERY good question.



:foil:



you think they will have a comment this week?



BTW, The good Doctor is going to be on BEST PERSON'S in the WORLD tonite!



Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 00:31:39
I *loved* the look on Rachel's face when KO told her she was a "best person!"



And what a reason! Highest rated cable news show!!!!!!!



Woohoo!

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 00:33:46
Here is what Rach made Best preson's in the world for...



416,000! That was the number of viewers who wathced her when she filled in for KO friday night.



Rach got the HIGHEST viewed CABLE NEWS SHOW ALL DAY when she filled in for KO on FRIDAY!



:clap: :clap::clap: :clap::clap: :clap::clap: :clap::clap: :clap:

Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 00:33:51
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

I bored...






: does a series of Bluto Blutarsky moves:


*wonders who that is*

Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 00:35:09
*not watching KO...Is watching Bones*

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 00:35:44
Quote by shelaghc:

I *loved* the look on Rachel's face when KO told her she was a "best person!"



And what a reason! Highest rated cable news show!!!!!!!



Woohoo!
That look was the best.







:party:



Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 00:37:45
Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

I bored...






: does a series of Bluto Blutarsky moves:


*wonders who that is*




Animal House. John Belushi's character.

Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 00:37:50
Home Run for Rachel Maddow



From Daily Kos!:

TVNeswer has the ratings from Friday night. Guest host Rachel Maddow took over for Keith Olbermann and hit it out of the park. She beat O'Reilly by 100,000 viewers in the 25-54 demo.



Here's the full results for the 8:00 Eastern time slot:



8p:

FNC O'Reilly:

309

CNN Brown:

246

MSNBC Countdown:

416

HLN Grace:

122



Rachel had the highest rated show for the night, by a lot. She added 130,000 viewers to her lead in. It's hard to imagine how anybody at MSNBC could not be really impressed.




Woohoo!!!!!! Rachel beat out Bill-O!



Take that, Faux News!



Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 00:39:26
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

I bored...






: does a series of Bluto Blutarsky moves:


*wonders who that is*




Animal House. John Belushi's character.


*stares blankly* a...wha?



Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 00:42:47
Ah, Shelagh...you still about?



If we had moved to Maine, I was planning on starting a "Drinking Liberally" group.



Since we're not, I was checking the DL website, and notice that there's none in the Boston Metrowest area...



So, is it hard to do?





Comment by IzzyBitz on 05/20/2008 00:50:40
Woo hoo Rachel!! Give this woman a show already!!

Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 00:52:37
Quote by TriSec:

Ah, Shelagh...you still about?



If we had moved to Maine, I was planning on starting a "Drinking Liberally" group.



Since we're not, I was checking the DL website, and notice that there's none in the Boston Metrowest area...



So, is it hard to do?




I had a bonus when I "started" my group. There had already been one in place previously that had been on hiatus because things had slowed down to a crawl.



The guys in charge of DL will give you some info about starting from scratch. I'd also recommend posting info in local free papers - that's what the originator of the group did in Pittsburgh - and maybe Craig's list. If there's a local progressive radio show, try to call in and get a shoutout about the group.



Also, find local progressive yahoo groups and send out info and reminders through them. It might take a few months to get it going, but once it's on its feet, you'll have a *lot* of fun.



One major recommendation: get *two* co-hosts to help out. That way no matter what, you'll always have an extra backup if you can't make it to a "meeting."

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 00:57:18
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Woo hoo Rachel!! Give this woman a show already!!


YES.





/

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 01:01:11
Hey gang, if you can see it, there's a game at Fenway worth checking out right now.



That's all I can say.





Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 01:01:17
:thud:



Holy crap. KO and his special comment tonite.



Just, simply, holy crap... he called the entire riech wing out tonite.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 01:05:41
Quote by TriSec:

Ah, Shelagh...you still about?



If we had moved to Maine, I was planning on starting a "Drinking Liberally" group.



Since we're not, I was checking the DL website, and notice that there's none in the Boston Metrowest area...



So, is it hard to do?











No drinking liberally in Boston? Whaaaa? Jacksonville is superior to the Holy Ground? I've got a DL group! w00t! We are better than Boston!





Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 01:06:32
Am i the only one watching B.S. shows on Fox? (network, not news)

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 01:09:37
Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

I bored...






: does a series of Bluto Blutarsky moves:


*wonders who that is*




Animal House. John Belushi's character.


*stares blankly* a...wha?





Are you having a laugh with me boy? :adjusts cardigan: :shakes fist:

Comment by Random on 05/20/2008 01:11:33
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

I bored...






: does a series of Bluto Blutarsky moves:


*wonders who that is*




Animal House. John Belushi's character.


*stares blankly* a...wha?





Are you having a laugh with me boy? :adjusts cardigan: :shakes fist:




Maaaaaybe. *thinks for a moment* I've missed something.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 01:32:26
Hmmm watching American Experience about FDR. 1934, the chairman of the RNC saying the same crap that they say today. That is Seventy-four years ago! What have we learned just now? Anybody?

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 01:42:03
Quote by Mondobubba:



No drinking liberally in Boston? Whaaaa? Jacksonville is superior to the Holy Ground? I've got a DL group! w00t! We are better than Boston!









No, no, NO!



There's groups in Boston Proper, Brookline, and Cambridge....if you'll note, I was referring to Metrowest, which is the area where I currently reside.





Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 01:44:08
John Lester with the No-No, btw!



First by a Boston LHP in over half a century....(Mel Parnell, circa 1956)





Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 01:58:15
Steph's dad was the first Catholic the GOP nominated for a national office. Interesting.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 02:02:04
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Mondobubba:



No drinking liberally in Boston? Whaaaa? Jacksonville is superior to the Holy Ground? I've got a DL group! w00t! We are better than Boston!









No, no, NO!



There's groups in Boston Proper, Brookline, and Cambridge....if you'll note, I was referring to Metrowest, which is the area where I currently reside.









: pulls back on rod, setting the hook: :reels the elusive TriSec in:

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 02:06:27
Quote by TriSec:

John Lester with the No-No, btw!



First by a Boston LHP in over half a century....(Mel Parnell, circa 1956)







Perfect game or no hitter?

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 02:09:31
'twas a no-hitter; he walked two.





:heads for the depths with two barrels tied on:





Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 02:09:52
Tri splain: Attendance: 37,746 (103.3% full) how can you have this many people in the storied confines of Fenway?

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 02:12:47
Quote by TriSec:

'twas a no-hitter; he walked two.





:heads for the depths with two barrels tied on:









Don't worry, Tri. I practice catch and release. I'm not gonna have you stuffed and mounted over my mantle.

Comment by TriSec on 05/20/2008 02:15:08
Ah, they sell 2,000 Standing Room Only tickets these days, over and above the seating capacity of the ol' ballyard.





Comment by shelaghc on 05/20/2008 02:19:54
Tri, since there are already Boston chapters, maybe you should probably attend a couple of the other DL groups and talk with the leaders there about your new group? They could be helpful in getting the word out.



Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 02:23:08
Quote by Mondobubba:

Steph's dad was the first Catholic the GOP nominated for a national office. Interesting.


And only four years after the whole JFK brouhaha. And it only took them 40 years to get past the whole Al Smith thing when the anti-Catholic rhetoric was really thick.

Comment by Mondobubba on 05/20/2008 02:24:21
Quote by TriSec:

Ah, they sell 2,000 Standing Room Only tickets these days, over and above the seating capacity of the ol' ballyard.









: jots note to self:

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 02:26:11
Raine pops head into blog, ala TriSec....





:huh:



:peace:





Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 02:27:33
Raine popped out.



:heart: y'all.







Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 02:36:36
But, before I go..





You heard it here first.



Obama to reach delegate milestone Tuesday

By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER – 6 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama will reach a significant milestone Tuesday as he marches toward the Democratic nomination for president — a majority of the pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses.



Obama will still be short of the overall number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination, unless he were to suddenly receive an avalanche of endorsements from the party and elected officials known as superdelegates. But the Illinois senator's campaign is touting the delegate milestone as a big step in defeating his rival, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.



"A clear majority of elected delegates will send an unmistakable message — the people have spoken, and they are ready for change," Obama campaign manager David Plouffe wrote in a memo to supporters Monday.

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Expect the "Pelosi Club" to Endorse either tomorrow night or Wednesday morning.



That includes Jimmy Carter. ;)





Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 02:48:25
Have a good night Raine. Hope you get some good sleep.

Comment by velveeta jones on 05/20/2008 03:10:35
Velveeta checking in! Back from the drudgery of work.



Hey! Who loves this picture on the Headlines at HuffPo?





http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q151/velveeta_jones/people/obamathekid.jpg




That picture says: WINNER!

Comment by livingonli on 05/20/2008 03:18:10
Evening VJ. I still have about another 2 hours before I can go home.

Comment by Raine on 05/20/2008 03:30:15




OK, I am going to sleep. is i late enough to post this pix? I KNOW, it's wrong. I deserve a spanking.



For humour ONLY....







http://www.nomansblog.com/wp-content/themes/3ColumnK2/images/arg.jpg




Going to sleep.



Yes Dems CAN. Gnite my loverlies. :hug: