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(Making a) Living off the Land
Author: BobR    Date: 04/16/2014 11:02:44

It seems like only yesterday (but was - in fact a years ago) when the Tea Baggers were screaming that they wanted the government to "keep your hands off my Medicare". It was such a jarring disconnect between the confused rhetoric and the reality of social safety net programs as to be comical. How could anyone not realize that Medicare is the very definition of government, and one of the single largest budgetary items we had? Where did they think the money came from for Medicare? Yes - from taxes, through the federal government, and then out to medical service providers.

The idea that nothing good comes of the federal government is a meme that feels good to the rebels, the libertarians, the nut job tea baggers, and all of the rest. Of course - they'll complain while they drive on roads, enjoy the protections of state and federal law enforcement, and - in many cases - feed their families with food stamps and welfare checks.

Or - in the case of a Nevada rancher - make use of hundreds of acres of federal land, and feel like he didn't have to pay anything to use it:
This conflict arises out of rancher Cliven Bundy’s many years of illegally grazing his cattle on federal lands. In 1998, a federal court ordered Bundy to cease grazing his livestock on an area of federal land known as the Bunkerville Allotment, and required him to pay the federal government $200 per day per head of cattle remaining on federal lands. Around the time it issued this order, the court also commented that “[t]he government has shown commendable restraint in allowing this trespass to continue for so long without impounding Bundy’s livestock.” Fifteen years later, Bundy continued to defy this court order.

Last October, the federal government returned to court and obtained a new order, providing that “Bundy shall remove his livestock from the former Bunkerville Allotment within 45 days of the date hereof, and that the United States is entitled to seize and remove to impound any of Bundy’s cattle that remain in trespass after 45 days of the date hereof.” A third federal court order issued the same year explains that Bundy did not simply refuse to stop trespassing on federal lands — he actually expanded the range of his trespassing. According to the third order, “Bundy’s cattle have moved beyond the boundaries of the Bunkerville Allotment and are now trespassing on a broad swath of additional federal land (the “New Trespass Lands”), including public lands within the Gold Butte area that are administered by the BLM, and National Park System land within the Overton Arm and Gold Butte areas of the Lake Mead National Recreation Area.” The third order also authorizes the federal government to “impound any of Bundy’s cattle that remain in trespass.”

Naturally - the rancher's plight and protests are making him a national hero to those who apparently think stealing from the government (that would be us - the taxpayers) is okay. This resulted in an armed standoff as these jackholes decided to go all militia and threaten the federal agents. Glenn Beck actually thinks some of these people are real wackos, which is a little scarey considering he likely doesn't think that about at this guy - a former sheriff calling for putting women on the front lines as targets:
A former Arizona sheriff who has taken the side of cattle ranchers in Nevada said this week that he would have allowed his own wife and daughters to be shot as human shields because it would look bad for the federal government on television.

In a statement to Fox News on Monday that was first flagged by Glenn Beck's The Blaze, former Sheriff Richard Mack talked about his strategy to put women on the front lines if a gunfight broke out between "rogue federal agents" and rancher Cliven Bundy, who reportedly owes the taxpayers more than $1 million for allowing his cattle to graze on government land.

"We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front," he recalled. "If they are going to start shooting, it's going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers."

Bundy must have heard this guy because he began calling on sheriffs to disarm the federal agents. He invokes the syntax of the perpetual anti-government protest, calling federal field agents "bureaucrats". This self-righteous selfish prick thinks that land is his to use as he pleases, even though he doesn't own it, doesn't pay taxes on it, and doesn't maintain it. Can you imagine what would happen if the federal government decided to lease the land for oil exploration?... or started auctioning off natural gas leases? How long do you think it would take for this anti-government rancher to run screaming to the government about protecting his cattle?

Government - keep your hands off of my grassland!

The selfish ungrateful ignorance of these people continues to confound me. Time to bring out the National Guard to let Bundy's guard dogs know that stealing is wrong, and then extract from him what he owes, or send him to jail. It's what they do with other criminals and tax cheats.
 

42 comments (Latest Comment: 04/16/2014 20:27:41 by Mondobubba)
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Comment by trojanrabbit on 04/16/2014 12:13:59
WTF is this white shit that's on the car this morning? I had to have the AC running the computer room at home yesterday.

Nevada is really stepping up in the race to unseat Florida as the derpiest state. Is Mack's wife and daughters as far off the rail as he is? When they heard him say that did they think "I better get a restraining order on this nut" or did they say "YEAH FREEDUMZ AMURIKA!!!". If this is about the blah man in the White House I wonder how they felt when Dumbya was ruining things and the cattle were just grazing wherever.

Took a "mental health" day off yesterday. I don't think it helped one bit. I spent it explaining to Mrs Rabbit over and over why most of her shows were taken off the air yesterday.

While going through my stacks of DVD's I found episode #1 of The Colbert Report. Maybe I'll have some time to actually watch it later.

Comment by Raine on 04/16/2014 12:44:21
Quote by trojanrabbit:
WTF is this white shit that's on the car this morning? I had to have the AC running the computer room at home yesterday.

Nevada is really stepping up in the race to unseat Florida as the derpiest state. Is Mack's wife and daughters as far off the rail as he is? When they heard him say that did they think "I better get a restraining order on this nut" or did they say "YEAH FREEDUMZ AMURIKA!!!". If this is about the blah man in the White House I wonder how they felt when Dumbya was ruining things and the cattle were just grazing wherever.

Took a "mental health" day off yesterday. I don't think it helped one bit. I spent it explaining to Mrs Rabbit over and over why most of her shows were taken off the air yesterday.

While going through my stacks of DVD's I found episode #1 of The Colbert Report. Maybe I'll have some time to actually watch it later.
( )

We are under a freeze warning again tonight. I had to cover my plants last night. Granted, I plant earlier with expectations of frost -- but not a hard freeze.

good morning!

Comment by wickedpam on 04/16/2014 12:54:17
MOrning

Have to run out - work errand back in a few

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/16/2014 13:19:45
Howdy

Comment by BobR on 04/16/2014 13:26:53
Quote by trojanrabbit:
While going through my stacks of DVD's I found episode #1 of The Colbert Report. Maybe I'll have some time to actually watch it later.

sweet!

Comment by Scoopster on 04/16/2014 13:31:45
Mornin' all.. I've developed quite the hacking cough over the past day. I really hope I'm not getting sick.

Excellent and very enlightening blog today, Bobber. I gotta admit I haven't paid any attention at all to this Nevada thing. The little I've heard about it made me think it was just another stupid libertarian nutjob in another stupid Ruby Ridge-style standoff.

Comment by Raine on 04/16/2014 13:37:42
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all.. I've developed quite the hacking cough over the past day. I really hope I'm not getting sick.

Excellent and very enlightening blog today, Bobber. I gotta admit I haven't paid any attention at all to this Nevada thing. The little I've heard about it made me think it was just another stupid libertarian nutjob in another stupid Ruby Ridge-style standoff.
Thius entire debate pisses me off.

I would like the Feds to freeze his bank accounts or start garnishing until the fees are paid. hit it straight in his free market.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/16/2014 13:38:14
Comment by trojanrabbit on 04/16/2014 13:39:58
Quote by BobR:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
While going through my stacks of DVD's I found episode #1 of The Colbert Report. Maybe I'll have some time to actually watch it later.

sweet!

Yeah, that was back in the time where I TiVo'd The Daily Show, Colbert and Countdown, and did a quick and dirty re-encode for my Creative Zen (which wanted .wmv only).

Did another Q&D encode from that .wmv to .mp4 last night and my Roku took it fine. Though it's possible I have another set of DVDs with "original" .TiVo files.


Comment by Raine on 04/16/2014 13:51:29
Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh Finland.



Comment by Mondobubba on 04/16/2014 13:58:47



Way back when I was a callow youth, I got so annoyed with Angus Young wearing the school boy outfit. Then I found out he has near crippling stage freight which he overcomes by having a persona that wears the uniform.


Comment by Raine on 04/16/2014 14:02:34
Comment by Mondobubba on 04/16/2014 14:07:55



I will get my Nebraska correspondent on this. I want to find out is they used the claw to get the kid out or not.

Comment by Raine on 04/16/2014 14:19:34
Quote by Mondobubba:



I will get my Nebraska correspondent on this. I want to find out is they used the claw to get the kid out or not.



Comment by Raine on 04/16/2014 14:32:19
Comment by BobR on 04/16/2014 15:02:21
Quote by Raine:
Total asshole.

Yep - I suspected this was going to be the case when I heard about the backpacks.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 04/16/2014 15:20:45
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine:
Total asshole.

Yep - I suspected this was going to be the case when I heard about the backpacks.

They should have had the backpack on this idiot's back when they exploded it.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/16/2014 15:27:11


PEEPS IN A VACUUM.



Comment by wickedpam on 04/16/2014 15:30:54
Quote by Mondobubba:


PEEPS IN A VACUUM.




Dammit I was just going to post that!!!

Brains collide.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/16/2014 15:39:09
Really Sir Paul? Jacksonville?

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/16/2014 15:40:53
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:


PEEPS IN A VACUUM.




Dammit I was just going to post that!!!

Brains collide.



This is why you don't want to eat Peeps before fly as well.

Comment by Raine on 04/16/2014 15:49:45
Quote by Mondobubba:
Really Sir Paul? Jacksonville?

What did I miss?

Comment by wickedpam on 04/16/2014 15:52:23
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:


PEEPS IN A VACUUM.




Dammit I was just going to post that!!!

Brains collide.



This is why you don't want to eat Peeps before fly as well.


before fly??

I don't eat peeps until they are good and stale

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/16/2014 16:00:36
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:


PEEPS IN A VACUUM.




Dammit I was just going to post that!!!

Brains collide.



This is why you don't want to eat Peeps before fly as well.


before fly??

I don't eat peeps until they are good and stale


Flying... D'oh!


Comment by Mondobubba on 04/16/2014 16:01:36
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Really Sir Paul? Jacksonville?

What did I miss?



Sir Paul McCartney will be performing at the Jacksonville Memorial Coliseum in June.

Comment by Raine on 04/16/2014 16:06:22
Priest turns one of the saddest songs ever into something really beautiful…



Comment by wickedpam on 04/16/2014 16:07:16
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:


PEEPS IN A VACUUM.




Dammit I was just going to post that!!!

Brains collide.



This is why you don't want to eat Peeps before fly as well.


before fly??

I don't eat peeps until they are good and stale


Flying... D'oh!





Comment by BobR on 04/16/2014 16:17:50
Quote by Raine:
Priest turns one of the saddest songs ever into something really beautiful…


That priest can really belt it out too, and a nice falsetto. Well-done.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/16/2014 16:43:14
Hello, bloggers!! I hope that everyone is doing well. Trojanrabbit, I hope that things get better soon.

I was busy on Monday with my friend Mickey's funeral, It was a beautiful service at which four rabbis spoke and one sent in a message.

Yesterday, I was busy here before attending the Pesach seder service at Temple. Security was heightened, and we had a police officer in the lot. I was asked to be the doorman.

Today, I am job hunting. No word yet from the school in Boston, but I hope that I will have more interviews soon. Tomorrow, I may help Mickey's nephew with the condo that he lived in for over 30 years.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/16/2014 16:45:34
Oh, and I was going to post something this morning and a transformer in the neighborhood blew. I am looking forward so much to moving that when I heard that the Chicago White Sox are plying the Boston Red Sox, I thought go Boston. (I am grateful that my Dad was not a baseball fan, as it has forced me to not chose between two teams whose management has left a lot to be desired.)

Comment by livingonli on 04/16/2014 16:46:30
Good day everyone. Still feel tired and I got a late shift tonight.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/16/2014 17:02:16
Quote by livingonli:
Good day everyone. Still feel tired and I got a late shift tonight.


I understand the feeling and hope that you feel better, Liv. On Monday, I think that I slept longer than since I drove back here from Phoenix.


Comment by BobR on 04/16/2014 17:05:03
Quote by livingonli:
Good day everyone. Still feel tired and I got a late shift tonight.

I thought you had been moved off of the late shift? Are you covering for someone?


Comment by livingonli on 04/16/2014 17:28:32
Quote by BobR:
Quote by livingonli:
Good day everyone. Still feel tired and I got a late shift tonight.

I thought you had been moved off of the late shift? Are you covering for someone?

This is my one late shift and there was some juggling because someone's on bereavement leave.

Comment by TriSec on 04/16/2014 17:50:20
Peeps? *ralph*

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/16/2014 19:14:22
Comment by wickedpam on 04/16/2014 19:31:47
Quote by Mondobubba:
Kulula Airlines FTW!


that's hysterical, I want to fly this airlines now


Comment by Mondobubba on 04/16/2014 20:05:35
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Kulula Airlines FTW!


that's hysterical, I want to fly this airlines now



First we need to go to South Africa.

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/16/2014 20:07:56
Comment by wickedpam on 04/16/2014 20:11:12
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Kulula Airlines FTW!


that's hysterical, I want to fly this airlines now



First we need to go to South Africa.



no DC hub, huh, well poo

Comment by Mondobubba on 04/16/2014 20:27:41