There have been 4,392 coalition deaths -- 4,080 Americans, two Australians, 176 Britons, 13 Bulgarians, one Czech, seven Danes, two Dutch, two Estonians, one Fijian, four Georgians, one Hungarian, 33 Italians, one Kazakh, one Korean, three Latvian, 22 Poles, three Romanians, five Salvadoran, four Slovaks, 11 Spaniards, two Thai and 18 Ukrainians -- in the war in Iraq as of May 26, 2008, according to a CNN count. (Graphical breakdown of casualties). The list below is the names of the soldiers, Marines, airmen, sailors and Coast Guardsmen whose deaths have been reported by their country's governments. The list also includes seven employees of the U.S. Defense Department. At least 30,112 U.S. troops have been wounded in action, according to the Pentagon.
I'm driving. Jack, my copilot, sleeps in the passenger seat. His chin rests on my upper leg. The car in front of us wears two "Support Our Troops" ribbons on its backside. One is yellow, the other red, white, and blue. Both were made in China. On the right-rear bumper is a black and faded MIA sticker. The driver of the car probably means well, but by now I've seen too many ribbons. While the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq kill and maim, I can't help but think how they are also shaping the future of returning veterans. Many of these men and women will come home and go missing and you won't even know it. Returning from a war is more than getting off an airplane and putting on civvies. Combat changes a person. It changed me.
I'm driving angry. I want to tell the guy in front of me: You want to support the troops? Get them the hell out of the line of fire. Or, if you think this war is such a necessary enterprise, haul your butt on over there. If you're too old, pull your kids and grandchildren out of college and send them.
I'm driving sad. You want to support our troops? Give the man some space when he gets home. Give the woman a job. Don't tell either of them how you would have been there if you could have, and then spin off a bunch of excuses. He may keep to himself. She might be missing an arm. He could be in a wheelchair knowing he'll never chase his kids down a beach again. Both may drink a bit. She may smoke pot, dress wild, and date too many guys. She might like to play her music too loud and dance alone in her room. He could go to the movies for hours and come home and cry and cry. Don't lecture them. Don't tell him to forget about the war - he can't. Don't try to tell her how she's escaping reality. She's had all the reality she can stomach. He may carry what you call an attitude. She might have an extremely low BS tolerance, a quirky sense of humor you don't really understand.
Listen up: If you've never hunted humans, if you've never been hunted, if you haven't been shot at on a regular basis, try to appreciate what this person has been through. Then get down on your knees and pray, and thank your lucky stars it wasn't you.
I'm driving lost. It's Vietnam, 1968, Quang Nam Province. I work up a spit of bleeding gums, saliva, and bug juice. I wonder about the skeletons we passed an hour ago. Sprawled outside four fighting holes, two of the skeletons lay mostly intact, arms reaching, legs cocked as if trying to crawl back to their open graves. The third had no skull. Turning my head, I scan the hot, windless valley. Single file, I follow Valdez, the radio man, 10 meters to my front. Where Valdez steps, I step. Heat worms up through the soles of my boots. Toes bleeding, heels aching, my swollen feet fester in the canvas and leather. An M16 bandoleer is slung over my shoulder, and the magazines inside clink lightly. Two grenades, like giant steel eggs, hang off my flak-jacket pockets. C-ration cans clank against the sticks of C-4 explosive in my kangaroo pockets. I hate being in the open like this. Breathing shallow to keep the burn out of my lungs.
Too scared to let my mind wander, I do anyway. I remember a girl back in The World - her face, the way she looked at me when we ate ice cream. I talk to myself. Mumble silently is more like it. Watch where you put your feet; look for movement, a wire, a vine, a slight depression. Don't stare, you'll get hypnotized. Scan. Doing it without thinking, repeating the movements like an endless rosary, my Marine squad stretches a hundred meters single file along the floor of Happy Valley.
I'm driving home. The car in front with the ribbons turns off. I go straight. Rolling down the windows, I crank up Rod Stewart on the radio and scratch Jack between his soft and beautiful ears. He likes his window all the way open. He moves there to put his face in the breeze. You want to do something for our troops? Bring them home.
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I have a friend that thinks this long drawn out primary season is good for the party because it's drawing record numbers of people to the polls to vote. Personally, I think we are past the point of positive and - with all the negativity surrounding the race (regardless of where it comes from) - we're now well into an area of diminishing returns.
This needs to end so we can ALL join together and focus our energies on dismantling the Republican machine.
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Dueling soundbites....
Sorry Shane-O, I think DJ won that one...
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DJ's first hour on Clinton's comment was really good. I decided to stay away from the subject - he handled it well. The "Shaft" one was not DJ, however. I think that one kicked both our butts!!
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To me, it would depend on what she looks like.
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To me, it would depend on what she looks like.
:huh: Did I miss something?
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
To me, it would depend on what she looks like.
:huh: Did I miss something?
I was just wondering the same thing :scratchhead:
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
To me, it would depend on what she looks like.
:huh: Did I miss something?
I was just wondering the same thing :scratchhead:
I was responding to the story about the hospital worker.
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Why can't Fox News be taken off the air?
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Why can't Fox News be taken off the air?
There's that pesky 1st Ammendment...
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Good morning everyone!
Just got back from the Airport. Ms MArgaret is on her way back to NY.
What a wonderful week.
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Good morning everyone!
Just got back from the Airport. Ms MArgaret is on her way back to NY.
What a wonderful week.
Ya know what I found out this weekend? Amtrak picks up in Manassas and goes all the way to New Orleans - Via Atlanta. Only 95.00 each way.
To quote Star - Just sayin'.
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I'm glad Momma's weekend cookout was civil... ours - not so much.
Quote by Raine:Whenever you want! I would love for you to visit!Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Good morning everyone!
Just got back from the Airport. Ms MArgaret is on her way back to NY.
What a wonderful week.
Ya know what I found out this weekend? Amtrak picks up in Manassas and goes all the way to New Orleans - Via Atlanta. Only 95.00 each way.
To quote Star - Just sayin'.
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I'm glad Momma's weekend cookout was civil... ours - not so much.
Quote by Raine::(Quote by BobR:
I'm glad Momma's weekend cookout was civil... ours - not so much.
It got heated. I got heated.
Quote by wickedpam:
I wished for some of that beer ya'll made while I was working hard on shed construction.
Quote by livingonli:
I'm wondering. Did we manage to finish off the beer that was brought to DC?
Quote by wickedpam:
Ya know what I found out this weekend? Amtrak picks up in Manassas and goes all the way to New Orleans - Via Atlanta. Only 95.00 each way.
To quote Star - Just sayin'.
Quote by Raine::(Quote by BobR:
I'm glad Momma's weekend cookout was civil... ours - not so much.
It got heated. I got heated.
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
I'm wondering. Did we manage to finish off the beer that was brought to DC?
Nope. So many people were drinking vodka that the beer got overlooked. I know ShelaghC took some home, but I ended up taking one of the two cases back home with me.
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Ya know what I found out this weekend? Amtrak picks up in Manassas and goes all the way to New Orleans - Via Atlanta. Only 95.00 each way.
To quote Star - Just sayin'.
Well gee, I wonder why it costs $345 for the 3 of us to take the Acela Regional from South Station to Union Station, then? It's about twice that on the Acela Express....
I think you could almost fly to DC for less....and even with $4 gas, I can certainly drive the 450 miles for less than that.
What's wrong with this picture?
Helloooo? Mr. Nominee, are you listening? There's a former governor of Massachusetts that would love to fix Amtrak, if you ask him and give him some money...
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Raine,
BTB, Is your friend still there with you? Sounds like you guys had a blast.
Cheers,
mfaye :hug:
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I'm wondering. Did we manage to finish off the beer that was brought to DC?
Nope. So many people were drinking vodka that the beer got overlooked. I know ShelaghC took some home, but I ended up taking one of the two cases back home with me.
I knew I should have snagged some to take home!
Quote by m-hadley:
Camile Paglia makes me puke
Cheers,
mfaye :D
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I'm wondering. Did we manage to finish off the beer that was brought to DC?
Nope. So many people were drinking vodka that the beer got overlooked. I know ShelaghC took some home, but I ended up taking one of the two cases back home with me.
I knew I should have snagged some to take home!
Me too.
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Yes we had a blast, btw, having not seen each other for 2 years, we did a lot of catching up. The aquarium, the Zoo, Stone Mountain park, we cooked dinner a few times,went shopping and had many many laughs.
Bobber was a trooper with the extra estrogen that was all around him for the past week.
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I want these. I think we should be able to get to NYC in 90 minutes or so...
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Quote by BobR:
When I was in Paris, I took the train to London (goes through the Chunnel). It got up to 173 MPH - it was VERY cool.
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okay first: YUCK!!
second: How can it be "famous" if it's "New!"??
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I can't believe that Momma has not mentioned the passing of Sydney Pollack, the director of one of my all-time favorite movies "They Shoot Horses Don't They?" Veeerrry depressing - but sometimes misery loves company I sent in a few quotes from Mr. Pollack - I hope that Steph reads them - one of them is so good I put it on my blog as a Quote of the Week.
Cheers,
mfaye
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The Vortex Bar and Grill Menu.
Of particular note, these menu items:
CORONARY BYPASS BURGER
Our big sirloin patty topped with a fried egg, three
slices of American cheese, four slices of bacon, and
a big fat side of mayo. 8.25
DOUBLE BYPASS BURGER
The ingredients listed above, but with two grilled
cheese sandwiches replacing the buns. 13.25
no lie.
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Well damn, is there anyplace you haven't been?
Of course, given the state of Boston's mass transit...things like trains running on-time and not sticking to the seat impress me...
I rode MARTA once, when it was new...how's it holding up? And I can't praise the DC Metro enough; every rapid transit system in the US should work that well...
Quote by Raine:
The Vortex Bar and Grill Menu.
Of particular note, these menu items:
CORONARY BYPASS BURGER
Our big sirloin patty topped with a fried egg, three
slices of American cheese, four slices of bacon, and
a big fat side of mayo. 8.25
DOUBLE BYPASS BURGER
The ingredients listed above, but with two grilled
cheese sandwiches replacing the buns. 13.25
no lie.
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
The Vortex Bar and Grill Menu.
Of particular note, these menu items:
CORONARY BYPASS BURGER
Our big sirloin patty topped with a fried egg, three
slices of American cheese, four slices of bacon, and
a big fat side of mayo. 8.25
DOUBLE BYPASS BURGER
The ingredients listed above, but with two grilled
cheese sandwiches replacing the buns. 13.25
no lie.
Raine was joking about ordering it with two turkey patties and a diet coke :rofl:
Quote by Scoopster:
Good lord..
Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
Good lord..
Atlanta - home of healthy eating!
In case you haven't seen them already, here's picture of the Luther burger and the hamdog:
Luther burger: A bacon cheeseburger using a grilled Krispy Kreme donut for a bun
Hamdog: A hotdog wrapped in ground beef, then deep-fried and served on a hoagie roll covered with chili, cheese, onions, and a fried egg.
ooOoo
Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
Good lord..
Atlanta - home of healthy eating!
In case you haven't seen them already, here's picture of the Luther burger and the hamdog:
Luther burger: A bacon cheeseburger using a grilled Krispy Kreme donut for a bun
Hamdog: A hotdog wrapped in ground beef, then deep-fried and served on a hoagie roll covered with chili, cheese, onions, and a fried egg.
ooOoo
Quote by wickedpam:
Question - NEtflix - I know I've asked before and gotten good reviews from Mondo about them - but I wanted to see what others had to say about them too. Good, bad, indifferent?
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
The Vortex Bar and Grill Menu.
Of particular note, these menu items:
CORONARY BYPASS BURGER
Our big sirloin patty topped with a fried egg, three
slices of American cheese, four slices of bacon, and
a big fat side of mayo. 8.25
DOUBLE BYPASS BURGER
The ingredients listed above, but with two grilled
cheese sandwiches replacing the buns. 13.25
no lie.
Raine was joking about ordering it with two turkey patties and a diet coke :rofl:
Does it come with a cardiologist's business card stapled to the bun? :D
Cheers,
mfaye
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OMG I heard about the Luther Burger - they featured it on The Boondocks!
Quote by Random:
Your god has returned. bow before me. and give me tribute.
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
Question - NEtflix - I know I've asked before and gotten good reviews from Mondo about them - but I wanted to see what others had to say about them too. Good, bad, indifferent?
Sorry - we've never used it.
Quote by Raine:I shall bow...Quote by Random:
Your god has returned. bow before me. and give me tribute.
(oh, wait... I think I did that backwards)
:rofl:
:poke: Heya Random. How are you today?
I must admit, despite all the fun, I have missed everyone a bit this week.
Quote by Random:
Your god has returned. bow before me. and give me tribute.
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
Your god has returned. bow before me. and give me tribute.
:: Jumps on-stage wearing Random outfit ::
"I am Random - hear me roar,
In numbers too big to ignore..."
oh wait - not that kind of tribute?
:rofl:
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:I shall bow...Quote by Random:
Your god has returned. bow before me. and give me tribute.
(oh, wait... I think I did that backwards)
:rofl:
:poke: Heya Random. How are you today?
I must admit, despite all the fun, I have missed everyone a bit this week.
I am well.
Don't worry, I'm sure i won't figure out the Smote button on my keyboard.
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:I shall bow...Quote by Random:
Your god has returned. bow before me. and give me tribute.
(oh, wait... I think I did that backwards)
:rofl:
:poke: Heya Random. How are you today?
I must admit, despite all the fun, I have missed everyone a bit this week.
I am well.
Don't worry, I'm sure i won't figure out the Smote button on my keyboard.
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
Your god has returned. bow before me. and give me tribute.
:: Jumps on-stage wearing Random outfit ::
"I am Random - hear me roar,
In numbers too big to ignore..."
oh wait - not that kind of tribute?
:rofl:
Quote by Raine::lol:Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:I shall bow...Quote by Random:
Your god has returned. bow before me. and give me tribute.
(oh, wait... I think I did that backwards)
:rofl:
:poke: Heya Random. How are you today?
I must admit, despite all the fun, I have missed everyone a bit this week.
I am well.
Don't worry, I'm sure i won't figure out the Smote button on my keyboard.
I bowed as best I could!
it is nice to see you. Were you at class this morning?
Quote by livingonli:
Random, did you give Clay the business?
Quote by Random:Quote by livingonli:
Random, did you give Clay the business?
*unsure of Liv's slang*
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:Quote by livingonli:
Random, did you give Clay the business?
*unsure of Liv's slang*
Did you call him out on his trolliness?
Quote by Random:Quote by livingonli:
Random, did you give Clay the business?
*unsure of Liv's slang*
Quote by Random:
*unsure of Liv's slang*
Quote by BobR:
Livin' with the 1940's gangster slang...
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:I shall bow...Quote by Random:
Your god has returned. bow before me. and give me tribute.
(oh, wait... I think I did that backwards)
:rofl:
:poke: Heya Random. How are you today?
I must admit, despite all the fun, I have missed everyone a bit this week.
I am well.
Don't worry, I'm sure i won't figure out the Smote button on my keyboard.
The SMS live blog needs a smote button or something to spit out the three stooges.
Quote by Mondobubba:
Bobber double post clean up on aisle two!
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Bobber double post clean up on aisle two!
I too have that power, Herr Mondo.
*sigh* TriSec, the forgotten admin....:kickcan:
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Bobber double post clean up on aisle two!
I too have that power, Herr Mondo.
*sigh* TriSec, the forgotten admin....:kickcan:
Quote by TriSec:
Say, WP...we've had Netflix for a while.
It's much cheaper than any brick & mortar place, for starters. I've found their movie list to be extensive if not overwhelming...
We've had a couple of bad dvds we had to send back, both times they sent new copies within 48 hours, no muss, no fuss.
We've also had some credit card issues, and have upgraded and downgraded our account a couple of times....never a peep out of them, and the online services work perfectly well.
All in all, it's been good. Now if we could only find time to watch many of these things they send us...
Quote by Random:
Random sleepy
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:
Say, WP...we've had Netflix for a while.
It's much cheaper than any brick & mortar place, for starters. I've found their movie list to be extensive if not overwhelming...
We've had a couple of bad dvds we had to send back, both times they sent new copies within 48 hours, no muss, no fuss.
We've also had some credit card issues, and have upgraded and downgraded our account a couple of times....never a peep out of them, and the online services work perfectly well.
All in all, it's been good. Now if we could only find time to watch many of these things they send us...
Thanks Tri!
All signed up now and trying to sort threw all the movies - have to pick for Mom and Myself so this is very difficult to balance. - so many choices!
Quote by livingonli:
I think you have to get out of the salt mines more so people don't forget.
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:
Say, WP...we've had Netflix for a while.
It's much cheaper than any brick & mortar place, for starters. I've found their movie list to be extensive if not overwhelming...
We've had a couple of bad dvds we had to send back, both times they sent new copies within 48 hours, no muss, no fuss.
We've also had some credit card issues, and have upgraded and downgraded our account a couple of times....never a peep out of them, and the online services work perfectly well.
All in all, it's been good. Now if we could only find time to watch many of these things they send us...
Thanks Tri!
All signed up now and trying to sort threw all the movies - have to pick for Mom and Myself so this is very difficult to balance. - so many choices!
Ohh the NetFlix conumdrum! So many movies. Hard. to. make. choices.
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:
Say, WP...we've had Netflix for a while.
It's much cheaper than any brick & mortar place, for starters. I've found their movie list to be extensive if not overwhelming...
We've had a couple of bad dvds we had to send back, both times they sent new copies within 48 hours, no muss, no fuss.
We've also had some credit card issues, and have upgraded and downgraded our account a couple of times....never a peep out of them, and the online services work perfectly well.
All in all, it's been good. Now if we could only find time to watch many of these things they send us...
Thanks Tri!
All signed up now and trying to sort threw all the movies - have to pick for Mom and Myself so this is very difficult to balance. - so many choices!
Ohh the NetFlix conumdrum! So many movies. Hard. to. make. choices.
Didn't you say you had a list on Netflix?
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:
Say, WP...we've had Netflix for a while.
It's much cheaper than any brick & mortar place, for starters. I've found their movie list to be extensive if not overwhelming...
We've had a couple of bad dvds we had to send back, both times they sent new copies within 48 hours, no muss, no fuss.
We've also had some credit card issues, and have upgraded and downgraded our account a couple of times....never a peep out of them, and the online services work perfectly well.
All in all, it's been good. Now if we could only find time to watch many of these things they send us...
Thanks Tri!
All signed up now and trying to sort threw all the movies - have to pick for Mom and Myself so this is very difficult to balance. - so many choices!
Ohh the NetFlix conumdrum! So many movies. Hard. to. make. choices.
Didn't you say you had a list on Netflix?
Yes I do. Do you want to be my friend? PM or email me on Facecrack your email addy, Mala.
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Yes I do. Do you want to be my friend? PM or email me on Facecrack your email addy, Mala.
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Yes I do. Do you want to be my friend? PM or email me on Facecrack your email addy, Mala.
oh dearest Mondo: I want to be your friend....
:rofl:
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
Yes I do. Do you want to be my friend? PM or email me on Facecrack your email addy, Mala.
oh dearest Mondo: I want to be your friend....
:rofl:
: "short bus" voice: Bobber you are mah frehn. : smacks chest:
Quote by wickedpam:
:rofl: :hug:
I swear you guys never cease to crack me up!
Quote by TriSec:
Well, looks like the first squall line of the season bearing down on us...
Dial up "02452" in the weather radar of your choice...
Quote by Raine:
Right down the road from where I live... They vandalized a mural of Obama.
Quote by m-hadley:
Raine,
This makes me so sad, angry, and frankly frightened. If this is how some people react to a mural, how will they react to the real McCoy? All the more reason why Hillary's comment was so out-of-bounds. Thanks for passing this along, as awful as it is, it is good to know about crap like this . I hope you are having a relaxing day... Any chance you and BobR might head out Okie way any time soon? :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Quote by livingonli:
Time to head off to the salt mine.
So if I had a facebook account, who here would friend me? Just curious. I may give in and hang out with the cool kids.
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Raine,
This makes me so sad, angry, and frankly frightened. If this is how some people react to a mural, how will they react to the real McCoy? All the more reason why Hillary's comment was so out-of-bounds. Thanks for passing this along, as awful as it is, it is good to know about crap like this . I hope you are having a relaxing day... Any chance you and BobR might head out Okie way any time soon? :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye :D
we'd love to, but finances are probably the biggest obstacle. As I mentioned before, I have some family near OK City.
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So...whats new?
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Random:
So...whats new?
What's new wich you, Rando?
Hope you don't mind that I just gave your alias a nickname - lemme know if you don't like it...
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by BobR:Quote by m-hadley:
Raine,
This makes me so sad, angry, and frankly frightened. If this is how some people react to a mural, how will they react to the real McCoy? All the more reason why Hillary's comment was so out-of-bounds. Thanks for passing this along, as awful as it is, it is good to know about crap like this . I hope you are having a relaxing day... Any chance you and BobR might head out Okie way any time soon? :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye :D
we'd love to, but finances are probably the biggest obstacle. As I mentioned before, I have some family near OK City.
BobR & Raine,
If you don't mind sharing a house with two rowdy doggies and one weirdo slightly drunk hostess I promise to feed you and the room is free - so come on out June is wide open - July I'll be in and out of town, so just let me know. The invite is good as long as I'm here...
Cheers,
mfaye
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I've been wondering if being so young, and impressionable, if i've choosen the wrong side...
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine:
Right down the road from where I live... They vandalized a mural of Obama.
Raine,
This makes me so sad, angry, and frankly frightened. If this is how some people react to a mural, how will they react to the real McCoy? All the more reason why Hillary's comment was so out-of-bounds. Thanks for passing this along, as awful as it is, it is good to know about crap like this . I hope you are having a relaxing day... Any chance you and BobR might head out Okie way any time soon? :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye :D
Quote by Random:
thinking...a lot.
And i dun mind what you call me, just isn't as catchy to me as Fightie was
Quote by Raine:I am a little stunned that it happened too. This area of town is funky and fun and open minded. Sorta reminds me of a tiny little version of the LES. A little Punk, and little rasta, a little biker, a little mystical... It's very cool .Quote by m-hadley:Quote by Raine:
Right down the road from where I live... They vandalized a mural of Obama.
Raine,
This makes me so sad, angry, and frankly frightened. If this is how some people react to a mural, how will they react to the real McCoy? All the more reason why Hillary's comment was so out-of-bounds. Thanks for passing this along, as awful as it is, it is good to know about crap like this . I hope you are having a relaxing day... Any chance you and BobR might head out Okie way any time soon? :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye :D
They have had there for a long time a mural there of Aldous Huxley, MLK, and Gore Vidal. Seriously. As a matter of fact, I think this painting was done on that same wall. there are lovely murals on many of the buildings there.
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I've been wondering if being so young, and impressionable, if i've choosen the wrong side...
wrong side of what Random?
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:
I've been wondering if being so young, and impressionable, if i've choosen the wrong side...
wrong side of what Random?
Just, things. I can look at the other side, and understand, and even agree, despite it being my base value. I can understand why people would be opposed to Welfare, or even universal healthcare. i can understand the want to privatize things.
I just wonder if i'm right in my beliefs.
Quote by Raine:It is a good thing to be able to understand the other side random. I truly feel that thru understanding, trying to look at things from other people POV, can we really develop our own personal beliefs.Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:Quote by Random:
I've been wondering if being so young, and impressionable, if i've choosen the wrong side...
wrong side of what Random?
Just, things. I can look at the other side, and understand, and even agree, despite it being my base value. I can understand why people would be opposed to Welfare, or even universal healthcare. i can understand the want to privatize things.
I just wonder if i'm right in my beliefs.
You sound like you are on the right side of where your heart is. :)
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yeah, but it's easier to be firm in your beliefs and not question them.
*sighs* I blame Recount.
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HEre, try this Random...
When you think about privatization, ask yourself this question, do you want to have to afford things like a library, a fire call, or maybe a police officer in case of emergency?
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yeah, but it's easier to be firm in your beliefs and not question them.
*sighs* I blame Recount.
Dubya was firm in his beliefs and didn't question them. That is not the way to go through life.
Being inquisitive and trying to get a holistic view of whatever it is you're trying to understand is always a good thing. You don't have to agree with a different point of view to understand it. Ultimately, you need to look at as much evidence as possible, and then try to determine what is best for the planet, your country, your state, and finally you. What feels right usually is...
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ultimatly the problem is, i kind of agree with both sides. I know that both are, in essence correct, and it all comes down to personality types.
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Obama's Great Uncle help liberate Auschwitz.
Those are some big shoes to fill, methinks.
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Obama's Great Uncle help liberate Auschwitz.
Those are some big shoes to fill, methinks.
: Dons Holocaust History Helmet: Since Auschwitz is in Poland, hard for Americans to liberate it.
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Obama's Great Uncle help liberate Auschwitz.
Those are some big shoes to fill, methinks.
: Dons Holocaust History Helmet: Since Auschwitz is in Poland, hard for Americans to liberate it.
*can hear our bloggieTrolls now*
NOOOOOO!
*runs for hills*
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It turned out David Bender is doing the AAR show, not Marc Maron. The idjit Daily News columnist got it wrong on the host du jour.
I'm surprised that no one commented on Randi citing the same Camille Paglia article that Steph mentioned today plus Randi even cited Maureen Dowd.
Take with it what you will.
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Obama's Great Uncle help liberate Auschwitz.
Those are some big shoes to fill, methinks.
: Dons Holocaust History Helmet: Since Auschwitz is in Poland, hard for Americans to liberate it.
*can hear our bloggieTrolls now*
NOOOOOO!
*runs for hills*
Quote by Raine:Well, my bad for possibly mis repping... it was Ohrduf camp. Still pretty coolQuote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Obama's Great Uncle help liberate Auschwitz.
Those are some big shoes to fill, methinks.
: Dons Holocaust History Helmet: Since Auschwitz is in Poland, hard for Americans to liberate it.
*can hear our bloggieTrolls now*
NOOOOOO!
*runs for hills*
Quote by Raine:Well, my bad for possibly mis repping... it was Ohrduf camp. Still pretty coolQuote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
Obama's Great Uncle help liberate Auschwitz.
Those are some big shoes to fill, methinks.
: Dons Holocaust History Helmet: Since Auschwitz is in Poland, hard for Americans to liberate it.
*can hear our bloggieTrolls now*
NOOOOOO!
*runs for hills*
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Obama's Great Uncle help liberate Auschwitz.
Those are some big shoes to fill, methinks.
: Dons Holocaust History Helmet: Since Auschwitz is in Poland, hard for Americans to liberate it.
*can hear our bloggieTrolls now*
NOOOOOO!
*runs for hills*
Indeed it is. So, Poppa Mondo's outfit, the 86th Infantry liberated a camp too.
* The "Golden Voice of the Great Southwest": Legendary Folk Musician,
Activist Utah Phillips, 1935-2008 *
Utah Phillips, the legendary folk musician and peace and labor activist, has
died at the age of seventy-three. Over the span of nearly four decades, Utah
Phillips worked in what he referred to as "the Trade," performing tirelessly
throughout the United States, Canada and Europe. The son of labor
organizers, Phillips was a lifelong member of the Industrial Workers of the
World, known as the Wobblies. As a teenager, he ran away from home and
started living as a hobo who rode the rails and wrote songs about his
experiences. In 1956, he joined the Army and served in the Korean War, an
experience he would later refer to as the turning point of his life. In
1968, he ran for the US Senate on the Peace and Freedom Party ticket. For
the past twenty-one years he lived in Nevada City, where he started a
nationally syndicated folk music radio show. He also helped found the
Hospitality House homeless shelter and the Peace and Justice Center. We
spend the hour with an interview with Phillips from January 2004.
Listen/Watch/Read
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/27/utah_phillips_1935_2008_legendary
* Headlines for May 27, 2008 *
IAEA Criticizes Iran on Nuclear Disclosure
Carter: Israel Has 150 Nukes
Pentagon, House to Investigate Propaganda Program
Top Military Commander Warns Troops on Political Speech
Officers Won't Be Charged in Marine Killings of Afghan Civilians
South American Leaders Form Regional Bloc
Leader of Colombian Rebel Group FARC Dies
Chile Cracks Down on Ex-Dictatorship Forces
Oaxacan Teachers Press Strike with New Protest
Castro Criticizes Obama on Embargo Pledge
Harsh Sentences for Immigrant Workers Jailed in Iowa Crackdown
UN: Burmese Junta Blocking Relief Effort
China Could See Mass Evacuation to Evade Flooding
House Arrest Extended for Burmese Pro-Democracy Leader Suu Kyi
South Koreans Protest Easing of US Beef Ban
Director Sydney Pollack Dies at 73
Listen/Watch/Read
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/27/headlines
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It turned out David Bender is doing the AAR show, not Marc Maron. The idjit Daily News columnist got it wrong on the host du jour.
I'm surprised that no one commented on Randi citing the same Camille Paglia article that Steph mentioned today plus Randi even cited Maureen Dowd.
Take with it what you will.
Quote by Raine:I want to clarify something here... her campaign and supporters (those we see on TV... Not our friends on the interenets) imo, seems to want her to be immune to criticism BECAUSE she's a woman.Quote by Raine:I heard randi read parts of that article, and I have to say, it is bad when I find myself agreeing with Camille (the paglia, not my pussy...)Quote by livingonli:
It turned out David Bender is doing the AAR show, not Marc Maron. The idjit Daily News columnist got it wrong on the host du jour.
I'm surprised that no one commented on Randi citing the same Camille Paglia article that Steph mentioned today plus Randi even cited Maureen Dowd.
Take with it what you will.
That is once again, IMO how this whole "sexism" debate is coming across to me.
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"Cops" in Jacksonville. The are all wearing Dangle shorts! An entire department of law enforcement cheetas! :rofl:
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"Cops" in Jacksonville. The are all wearing Dangle shorts! An entire department of law enforcement cheetas! :rofl:
Is that a taser in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
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Wow, Tubby has really thrown bus under the bus, put it reverse then drove over him again.
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Wow, Tubby has really thrown bus under the bus, put it reverse then drove over him again.
Sounds like I missed something good. It ain't gonna save his ass from the stir unless he rats him out to save his ass.
At least the Mafia has a code of honor.
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Wow, Tubby has really thrown bus under the bus, put it reverse then drove over him again.
Sounds like I missed something good. It ain't gonna save his ass from the stir unless he rats him out to save his ass.
At least the Mafia has a code of honor.
Not Tubby McTreason, Chummy McSharkbait. Scott McClellan.
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is reading SMS live blog.
Who's George?
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Random is watching Andromeda Strain
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Random is watching Andromeda Strain
Which if you have read the book, or seen the original movie, blows goats for a nickel and gives change.
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is reading SMS live blog.
Who's George?
I saw him today. A new Hillary defender. Hope he's not buddies with The Three Stooges.
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:
Random is watching Andromeda Strain
Which if you have read the book, or seen the original movie, blows goats for a nickel and gives change.
that's harsh.
I've read the book (I'm a Chricton fan, even though i can spell his name). own the original movie.
but i kind of like this "mini-series"
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is reading SMS live blog.
Who's George?
I saw him today. A new Hillary defender. Hope he's not buddies with The Three Stooges.
hope he's not one of the three stooges.
It's actually kind of an interesting study of trolls, watching our friends.
You forget that libertarian who shows up from time to time.
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:
Random is watching Andromeda Strain
Which if you have read the book, or seen the original movie, blows goats for a nickel and gives change.
that's harsh.
I've read the book (I'm a Chricton fan, even though i can spell his name). own the original movie.
but i kind of like this "mini-series"
Welcome to Mondoland! Where the opinion are harsh.
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is reading SMS live blog.
Who's George?
I saw him today. A new Hillary defender. Hope he's not buddies with The Three Stooges.
hope he's not one of the three stooges.
It's actually kind of an interesting study of trolls, watching our friends.
You forget that libertarian who shows up from time to time.
libertarian1 is in his own little world. I think he's a Ron Paul groupie.
Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Random:
Random is watching Andromeda Strain
Which if you have read the book, or seen the original movie, blows goats for a nickel and gives change.
that's harsh.
I've read the book (I'm a Chricton fan, even though i can spell his name). own the original movie.
but i kind of like this "mini-series"
Welcome to Mondoland! Where the opinion are harsh.
dun worry, Random will mellow you out Mondo.
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Random is watching Andromeda Strain
Which if you have read the book, or seen the original movie, blows goats for a nickel and gives change.
that's harsh.
I've read the book (I'm a Chricton fan, even though i can spell his name). own the original movie.
but i kind of like this "mini-series"
Welcome to Mondoland! Where the opinion are harsh.
dun worry, Random will mellow you out Mondo.
:rofl: Yeah that is going to happen.
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Random is watching Andromeda Strain
Which if you have read the book, or seen the original movie, blows goats for a nickel and gives change.
that's harsh.
I've read the book (I'm a Chricton fan, even though i can spell his name). own the original movie.
but i kind of like this "mini-series"
Welcome to Mondoland! Where the opinion are harsh.
dun worry, Random will mellow you out Mondo.
:rofl: Yeah that is going to happen.
Hm...Ya never know Mister Mondo. Random Mellow everyone out...Random like the Wacky Tabacie
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Hm...Ya never know Mister Mondo. Random Mellow everyone out...Random like the Wacky Tabacie
You need to hang out with Scoopster.
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Having seen the end...yes, this Andromeda strain mini-series sucks
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Having seen the end...yes, this Andromeda strain mini-series sucks
Indeed it does. Blows goats for nickel and gives change.
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Question: Does sportsgist.com sound like it should be something dirty?
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Having seen the end...yes, this Andromeda strain mini-series sucks
Indeed it does. Blows goats for nickel and gives change.
it was kinda good till the last half hour.
have you actually watched it?
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Utah Phillips? Damn. Now I'm gonna have to break out my copy of "Fellow Travelers" and listen tonight.
Be at peace, Utah, wherever you are.
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Having seen the end...yes, this Andromeda strain mini-series sucks
Indeed it does. Blows goats for nickel and gives change.
it was kinda good till the last half hour.
have you actually watched it?
Yep I watched it. So I can say without fear of contradiction that it blew goats for nickel and gave change.