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You have such a pretty face
Author: Raine
Date: 09/04/2014 13:36:46
I have a story to tell.. All of the events are true. The reason why I am telling this story is because I read this excerpt from Senator Gillanbrands biography. Isn't that nice of said southern congressman?
Let me tell you a story. I know a person who has a parental unit in a wheelchair. He was lucky to survive the accident that took away his ability to walk over well over a decade ago. He is a good person. He has a far different lifestyle than mine, but he is a good person. The person was graduating from high school with her parents and step-parents in attendance. Graduations are wonderful moments to celebrate a person we know and love. After the graduation, I went over to congratulate her father.
We smiled and laughed and told a few jokes. Then he said something that has not left me to this day. *You know, Raine, I don't mean this in a bad way, but you are starting to look just like your mother.* It took me less than a few moments to contemplate this statement before I said something that I don't feel good about to this day.
I said to him, I may be fat, <his name>, but hey! - When is the baby due? I then patted him on his stomach. Situation diffused with a dark joke.
You see, many people confined to wheelchairs often do fine themselves with a bit of a belly. At that moment of time, I was truly astounded that a man, a man in a wheelchair chose to mock my body. It bothered me. It bothered me because he actually pitted my body image against my mother. My mother was not there to defend herself. He mocked my body for not being as skinny as I once was.
If I were a better woman, I would not have made that joke. I would have asked him: what is wrong with my mother? I did not. Instead, I chose to diffuse the situation by turning it on him and trying to create laughter. The reality is this IMO: I should never have had to do that. I certainly could have told him I was offended right there. Right there in front of the graduate, his wife and other family friends. Instead, I felt the only recourse was to use comedic levity. I am so over being told to lighten up over my body being mocked for not being whatever ideal men might have for it. I am so over being told it is just a joke. This was meant to be a moment to celebrate a young woman graduating from High School.
There are a million things to laugh about in this world, just as there are a million things to cry about in this world. Using levity to deflect another person's judgement of mine or any other person's body should not be one of them. Yet, I do just that. I do it because it's in the past.
When Senator Gillibrand was faced with that comment from a gentlemen from the South, I can honestly say, I am glad it was her and not me. She is fortunate enough to have a platform to be able to publish a book.
This is the kind of sexism (and fat-shaming, which is in my opinion another offshoot of sexism) that occurs in this nation. It happens right inside our legislative chambers. It happens every day. If it didn't articles like this would not be needed.
You know, I don't need a man to tell me I am pretty even when I am fat. I won't lie here, I do ask my husband how I look. I care about how how I look. It wouldn't take a big huge leap to say that many people care. It's called taking pride, the way I see it. The problem is: there's this strange idea that certain parts of the male contingent seem to think they are the harbingers of what women should look like.
We talk so much in this nation about women finding a place from within to find and love themselves… how about we start with men just loving us for who we are, regardless of what they think we as women should look like?
We women would not generally say ever say "you <insert a man's name> still look pretty even if you ARE fat".
The Senator was only fat in the minds of the men she mentioned. She is a minority in the Senate. I seriously have to wonder if those men are a majority in this country. I hope that these instances eventually get tossed to the dustbins of history, but for now, they are still here, every damn day.
and 
Raine
“Good thing you’re working out, because you wouldn’t want to get porky!” one of her older male colleagues said. Her response: “Thanks, a—hole,” she said in an excerpt from her book.
An unidentified southern congressman once held the former upstate House member’s arm while walking her down the chamber’s center aisle. “You know, Kirsten, you’re even pretty when you’re fat,” he told her.
Let me tell you a story. I know a person who has a parental unit in a wheelchair. He was lucky to survive the accident that took away his ability to walk over well over a decade ago. He is a good person. He has a far different lifestyle than mine, but he is a good person. The person was graduating from high school with her parents and step-parents in attendance. Graduations are wonderful moments to celebrate a person we know and love. After the graduation, I went over to congratulate her father.
We smiled and laughed and told a few jokes. Then he said something that has not left me to this day. *You know, Raine, I don't mean this in a bad way, but you are starting to look just like your mother.* It took me less than a few moments to contemplate this statement before I said something that I don't feel good about to this day.
I said to him, I may be fat, <his name>, but hey! - When is the baby due? I then patted him on his stomach. Situation diffused with a dark joke.
You see, many people confined to wheelchairs often do fine themselves with a bit of a belly. At that moment of time, I was truly astounded that a man, a man in a wheelchair chose to mock my body. It bothered me. It bothered me because he actually pitted my body image against my mother. My mother was not there to defend herself. He mocked my body for not being as skinny as I once was.
If I were a better woman, I would not have made that joke. I would have asked him: what is wrong with my mother? I did not. Instead, I chose to diffuse the situation by turning it on him and trying to create laughter. The reality is this IMO: I should never have had to do that. I certainly could have told him I was offended right there. Right there in front of the graduate, his wife and other family friends. Instead, I felt the only recourse was to use comedic levity. I am so over being told to lighten up over my body being mocked for not being whatever ideal men might have for it. I am so over being told it is just a joke. This was meant to be a moment to celebrate a young woman graduating from High School.
There are a million things to laugh about in this world, just as there are a million things to cry about in this world. Using levity to deflect another person's judgement of mine or any other person's body should not be one of them. Yet, I do just that. I do it because it's in the past.
When Senator Gillibrand was faced with that comment from a gentlemen from the South, I can honestly say, I am glad it was her and not me. She is fortunate enough to have a platform to be able to publish a book.
This is the kind of sexism (and fat-shaming, which is in my opinion another offshoot of sexism) that occurs in this nation. It happens right inside our legislative chambers. It happens every day. If it didn't articles like this would not be needed.
You know, I don't need a man to tell me I am pretty even when I am fat. I won't lie here, I do ask my husband how I look. I care about how how I look. It wouldn't take a big huge leap to say that many people care. It's called taking pride, the way I see it. The problem is: there's this strange idea that certain parts of the male contingent seem to think they are the harbingers of what women should look like.
We talk so much in this nation about women finding a place from within to find and love themselves… how about we start with men just loving us for who we are, regardless of what they think we as women should look like?
We women would not generally say ever say "you <insert a man's name> still look pretty even if you ARE fat".
The Senator was only fat in the minds of the men she mentioned. She is a minority in the Senate. I seriously have to wonder if those men are a majority in this country. I hope that these instances eventually get tossed to the dustbins of history, but for now, they are still here, every damn day.
and Raine
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 09/04/2014 13:48:36
wickedpam on 09/04/2014 13:48:36
Morning 
I never seem to raise above the level of "you have such a cute face" or the "you'd be pretty if..." And yes cute is lower the pretty, pretty is lower the beautiful.
It's not wonder women have self-esteem issues that are lower then lowest sub-basement in hell.
I never seem to raise above the level of "you have such a cute face" or the "you'd be pretty if..." And yes cute is lower the pretty, pretty is lower the beautiful.
It's not wonder women have self-esteem issues that are lower then lowest sub-basement in hell.
Comment by 
Raine on 09/04/2014 13:58:12
I get tired of basically being told to get over it when I actually do speak out.
Raine on 09/04/2014 13:58:12
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning
I never seem to raise above the level of "you have such a cute face" or the "you'd be pretty if..." And yes cute is lower the pretty, pretty is lower the beautiful.
It's not wonder women have self-esteem issues that are lower then lowest sub-basement in hell.
I get tired of basically being told to get over it when I actually do speak out.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2014 14:01:25
Or the "you're being too sensitive"
Really? really? let me tell you every day how you have failed and keep harping on it.
wickedpam on 09/04/2014 14:01:25
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
Morning
I never seem to raise above the level of "you have such a cute face" or the "you'd be pretty if..." And yes cute is lower the pretty, pretty is lower the beautiful.
It's not wonder women have self-esteem issues that are lower then lowest sub-basement in hell.
I get tired of basically being told to get over it when I actually do speak out.
Or the "you're being too sensitive"
Really? really? let me tell you every day how you have failed and keep harping on it.
Comment by 
BobR on 09/04/2014 14:04:31
BobR on 09/04/2014 14:04:31
It's always the fat, bald, ugly guys who determine a woman's entire worth by her appearance.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2014 14:08:40
oh they are just one on the many factions heard from.
Its still considered okay to make fun of, diminish, be rude to, discriminate against and so on, people of size.
wickedpam on 09/04/2014 14:08:40
Quote by BobR:
It's always the fat, bald, ugly guys who determine a woman's entire worth by her appearance.
oh they are just one on the many factions heard from.
Its still considered okay to make fun of, diminish, be rude to, discriminate against and so on, people of size.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 09/04/2014 14:46:32
Scoopster on 09/04/2014 14:46:32
Mornin' all.. 
This morning's discussion kinda reminded me of this. Rrrrawr Maria de Medeiros!
This morning's discussion kinda reminded me of this. Rrrrawr Maria de Medeiros!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/04/2014 14:51:14
Will in Chicago on 09/04/2014 14:51:14
Good morning, bloggers!!! How are you?
I am back today from meeting with a job counselor. I let a friend know that I applied to a tech writer position at his company.
I hate to say it, but we have not made as much progress on issues of racism, sexism, and classism as I would like. Our culture seems to be turning cruder.
Raine, sometimes I think that generational change will be what puts the stake through the heart of many of our social ills.
As we could use something hopeful, here are some up and coming leaders in the Democratic Party.
I am back today from meeting with a job counselor. I let a friend know that I applied to a tech writer position at his company.
I hate to say it, but we have not made as much progress on issues of racism, sexism, and classism as I would like. Our culture seems to be turning cruder.
Raine, sometimes I think that generational change will be what puts the stake through the heart of many of our social ills.
As we could use something hopeful, here are some up and coming leaders in the Democratic Party.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/04/2014 14:58:36
Will in Chicago on 09/04/2014 14:58:36
WCPT is running some of the local hosts this week instead of Stephanie Miller. There is a good discussion on Illinois politics.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2014 15:08:32
Scoopster on 09/04/2014 15:08:32
Something funny is going on in a few of these races this year.
In the Alaska Governor's race, the Dem nominee has dropped out, swung his support to the independent candidate and joined his ticket as the Lt.Gov. pick. All in an effort to unseat the highly unpopular GOP governor Sean Parnell, who would have likely won a 3-way contest.
Then there's Kansas, which was highlighted on Rachel Maddow yesterday. Similar deal here - the Dem party nominee has dropped out of the race and given his endorsement to a VERY popular independent candidate, in an effort to unseat GOP Sen. Pat Roberts.
And finally North Carolina, where Sen. Kay Hagan is in a tough contest with Rep. Thom Tillis, the Speaker of the NC House. There's an extremely potent Libertarian Party candidate in the race, and he's pulling a lot of support from both sides. However we know Libertarians tend to pull more from the GOP candidate these days, so things are looking very good now for Hagan.
In the Alaska Governor's race, the Dem nominee has dropped out, swung his support to the independent candidate and joined his ticket as the Lt.Gov. pick. All in an effort to unseat the highly unpopular GOP governor Sean Parnell, who would have likely won a 3-way contest.
Then there's Kansas, which was highlighted on Rachel Maddow yesterday. Similar deal here - the Dem party nominee has dropped out of the race and given his endorsement to a VERY popular independent candidate, in an effort to unseat GOP Sen. Pat Roberts.
And finally North Carolina, where Sen. Kay Hagan is in a tough contest with Rep. Thom Tillis, the Speaker of the NC House. There's an extremely potent Libertarian Party candidate in the race, and he's pulling a lot of support from both sides. However we know Libertarians tend to pull more from the GOP candidate these days, so things are looking very good now for Hagan.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 15:08:53
nice catch Scoop!
Raine on 09/04/2014 15:08:53
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..
This morning's discussion kinda reminded me of this. Rrrrawr Maria de Medeiros!
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 15:10:21
Raine on 09/04/2014 15:10:21
Comment by BobR on 09/04/2014 16:07:59
Nice Monty Python reference!
BobR on 09/04/2014 16:07:59
Quote by Raine:
Federal Appeals Court Withdraws Decision Defunding Obamacare
In practical terms, this means that July's judgment cutting off subsidies to consumers who buy insurance plans in federally-operated health exchanges is no more. It has ceased to be. It is, in fact, an ex-judgment.
Nice Monty Python reference!
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 09/04/2014 16:10:33
You did go with Think Progress' reportage.
Mondobubba on 09/04/2014 16:10:33
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
Federal Appeals Court Withdraws Decision Defunding ObamacareIn practical terms, this means that July's judgment cutting off subsidies to consumers who buy insurance plans in federally-operated health exchanges is no more. It has ceased to be. It is, in fact, an ex-judgment.
Nice Monty Python reference!
You did go with Think Progress' reportage.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 16:11:21
Raine on 09/04/2014 16:11:21
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/04/2014 16:11:41
Mondobubba on 09/04/2014 16:11:41
Welcome to idiopathic digestive complaints! Spin the wheel for random fun. Said no one ever.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/04/2014 16:14:30
Why would any one think that?
Mondobubba on 09/04/2014 16:14:30
Quote by Raine:
And people think designers are passé….
Kerning people, KERNING!
Why would any one think that?
Comment by 
TriSec on 09/04/2014 17:50:46
TriSec on 09/04/2014 17:50:46
Everybody digs BILL EVANS.
Comment by BobR on 09/04/2014 18:00:42
BobR on 09/04/2014 18:00:42
Quote by TriSec:
Everybody digs BILL EVANS.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2014 18:04:57
Scoopster on 09/04/2014 18:04:57
Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/04/2014 18:50:39
Will in Chicago on 09/04/2014 18:50:39
Eric Holder speaking now on Ferguson.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:00:40
wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:00:40
looks like a verdict for McDonnell's been reached.
Bet he gets off
Bet he gets off
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:07:40
wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:07:40
Good bye Joan...
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 19:10:25
You are listening to WTOP as well, I see. 
Raine on 09/04/2014 19:10:25
Quote by wickedpam:
Good bye Joan...
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2014 19:10:45
Au contraie, ma soeur! First three counts (Conspiracy, Wire Fraud x2) all Guilty!
Scoopster on 09/04/2014 19:10:45
Quote by wickedpam:
looks like a verdict for McDonnell's been reached.
Bet he gets off
Au contraie, ma soeur! First three counts (Conspiracy, Wire Fraud x2) all Guilty!
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 19:10:51
Guilty (both) on the first count of bribery.
Raine on 09/04/2014 19:10:51
Quote by wickedpam:
looks like a verdict for McDonnell's been reached.
Bet he gets off
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:12:14
wow! I've been happily proven wrong.
Twitter's saying 11 counts of guilty for the Mr & Mrs
wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:12:14
Quote by Raine:Guilty (both) on the first count of bribery.Quote by wickedpam:
looks like a verdict for McDonnell's been reached.
Bet he gets off
wow! I've been happily proven wrong.
Twitter's saying 11 counts of guilty for the Mr & Mrs
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 19:12:46
Raine on 09/04/2014 19:12:46
Guilty on 11 corruption charges.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 19:13:09
PEr WaPo.
Holy shit!
Raine on 09/04/2014 19:13:09
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Guilty (both) on the first count of bribery.Quote by wickedpam:
looks like a verdict for McDonnell's been reached.
Bet he gets off
wow! I've been happily proven wrong.
Twitter's saying 11 counts of guilty for the Mr & Mrs
Holy shit!
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:13:28
no, it went thru my twitter timeline
wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:13:28
Quote by Raine:You are listening to WTOP as well, I see.Quote by wickedpam:
Good bye Joan...
no, it went thru my twitter timeline
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:14:06
I really am happy to be wrong - really thought they were gonna get off.
wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:14:06
Quote by Raine:PEr WaPo.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Guilty (both) on the first count of bribery.Quote by wickedpam:
looks like a verdict for McDonnell's been reached.
Bet he gets off
wow! I've been happily proven wrong.
Twitter's saying 11 counts of guilty for the Mr & Mrs
Holy shit!
I really am happy to be wrong - really thought they were gonna get off.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 19:18:56
I really didm;t think they would. Their defense was atrocious. Absolutely atrocious.
Raine on 09/04/2014 19:18:56
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:PEr WaPo.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Guilty (both) on the first count of bribery.Quote by wickedpam:
looks like a verdict for McDonnell's been reached.
Bet he gets off
wow! I've been happily proven wrong.
Twitter's saying 11 counts of guilty for the Mr & Mrs
Holy shit!
I really am happy to be wrong - really thought they were gonna get off.
Comment by 
livingonli on 09/04/2014 19:19:55
That's what you get when you use an LA Law episode for your defense strategy. I wonder how many in the jury saw that episode. What works in fiction doesn't necessarily work in real life. And sometimes truth is stranger in fiction.
livingonli on 09/04/2014 19:19:55
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:PEr WaPo.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Guilty (both) on the first count of bribery.Quote by wickedpam:
looks like a verdict for McDonnell's been reached.
Bet he gets off
wow! I've been happily proven wrong.
Twitter's saying 11 counts of guilty for the Mr & Mrs
Holy shit!
I really am happy to be wrong - really thought they were gonna get off.
That's what you get when you use an LA Law episode for your defense strategy. I wonder how many in the jury saw that episode. What works in fiction doesn't necessarily work in real life. And sometimes truth is stranger in fiction.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2014 19:21:12
Scoopster on 09/04/2014 19:21:12
Not to intrude on the excellent bit of news coming from Virginia buuuut...
This just in from the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals! It's worth reading the whole decision just for Posner's comments alone.
This just in from the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals! It's worth reading the whole decision just for Posner's comments alone.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:22:59
It was, and mainly about throwing his wife under several buses, a ferrari and lord know how any semi-truck full of that supplement.
Just seen too many Repub get off for littlest thing and in that part of VA I wasn't holding out much hope
wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:22:59
Quote by Raine:I really didm;t think they would. Their defense was atrocious. Absolutely atrocious.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:PEr WaPo.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Guilty (both) on the first count of bribery.Quote by wickedpam:
looks like a verdict for McDonnell's been reached.
Bet he gets off
wow! I've been happily proven wrong.
Twitter's saying 11 counts of guilty for the Mr & Mrs
Holy shit!
I really am happy to be wrong - really thought they were gonna get off.
It was, and mainly about throwing his wife under several buses, a ferrari and lord know how any semi-truck full of that supplement.
Just seen too many Repub get off for littlest thing and in that part of VA I wasn't holding out much hope
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:24:45
god, it was so very LA Law XD
wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:24:45
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:PEr WaPo.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Guilty (both) on the first count of bribery.Quote by wickedpam:
looks like a verdict for McDonnell's been reached.
Bet he gets off
wow! I've been happily proven wrong.
Twitter's saying 11 counts of guilty for the Mr & Mrs
Holy shit!
I really am happy to be wrong - really thought they were gonna get off.
That's what you get when you use an LA Law episode for your defense strategy. I wonder how many in the jury saw that episode. What works in fiction doesn't necessarily work in real life. And sometimes truth is stranger in fiction.
god, it was so very LA Law XD
Comment by BobR on 09/04/2014 19:27:50
BobR on 09/04/2014 19:27:50
How did the Cooch skate free on this one?
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 19:28:22
Raine on 09/04/2014 19:28:22
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 19:29:16
Someone made a deal. I have no question in my mind about this.
I am just glad that slime is not the Governor.
HOWEVER… we still have to worry about Cantor.
Raine on 09/04/2014 19:29:16
Quote by BobR:
How did the Cooch skate free on this one?
I am just glad that slime is not the Governor.
HOWEVER… we still have to worry about Cantor.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/04/2014 19:30:52
It is right to worry about this. I can see Cantor running for office again.
As for the verdict, I am not surprised. The defense seemed bizarre.
Will in Chicago on 09/04/2014 19:30:52
Quote by Raine:Someone made a deal. I have no question in my mind about this.Quote by BobR:
How did the Cooch skate free on this one?
I am just glad that slime is not the Governor.
HOWEVER… we still have to worry about Cantor.
It is right to worry about this. I can see Cantor running for office again.
As for the verdict, I am not surprised. The defense seemed bizarre.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 19:33:51
OF course he is, why do you think he's only got a two year contract with this DC bank? HE's friends with the owner of it.
Raine on 09/04/2014 19:33:51
Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by Raine:Someone made a deal. I have no question in my mind about this.Quote by BobR:
How did the Cooch skate free on this one?
I am just glad that slime is not the Governor.
HOWEVER… we still have to worry about Cantor.
It is right to worry about this. I can see Cantor running for office again.
As for the verdict, I am not surprised. The defense seemed bizarre.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/04/2014 19:35:29
My question is whether Cantor is limiting himself to Virginia or does he hope to get the GOP vice presidential slot.
Will in Chicago on 09/04/2014 19:35:29
Quote by Raine:OF course he is, why do you think he's only got a two year contract with this DC bank? HE's friends with the owner of it.Quote by Will in Chicago:Quote by Raine:Someone made a deal. I have no question in my mind about this.Quote by BobR:
How did the Cooch skate free on this one?
I am just glad that slime is not the Governor.
HOWEVER… we still have to worry about Cantor.
It is right to worry about this. I can see Cantor running for office again.
As for the verdict, I am not surprised. The defense seemed bizarre.
My question is whether Cantor is limiting himself to Virginia or does he hope to get the GOP vice presidential slot.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 19:42:12
I may have to save this for later. I am too busy being happy for justice served.
Raine on 09/04/2014 19:42:12
Quote by Scoopster:
Not to intrude on the excellent bit of news coming from Virginia buuuut...
This just in from the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals! It's worth reading the whole decision just for Posner's comments alone.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 19:43:37
Raine on 09/04/2014 19:43:37
How long until TransVag bob moves back home to his wife?
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/04/2014 19:44:32
OHH! Please let it be Perry then Scott and Christy!
Mondobubba on 09/04/2014 19:44:32
OHH! Please let it be Perry then Scott and Christy!
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2014 19:46:36
The points he makes are really masterful. I'm thinking about writing a blog tonite to summarize it.
Scoopster on 09/04/2014 19:46:36
Quote by Raine:I may have to save this for later. I am too busy being happy for justice served.Quote by Scoopster:
Not to intrude on the excellent bit of news coming from Virginia buuuut...
This just in from the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals! It's worth reading the whole decision just for Posner's comments alone.
The points he makes are really masterful. I'm thinking about writing a blog tonite to summarize it.
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:49:43
Perry was just indicted a few months ago so I don't expect that for a year or two. I'd love to see Christi but he's their golden boy to run. Don't think they want to mess up his chances. Scott's been teetering for a while that might be the one.
wickedpam on 09/04/2014 19:49:43
Quote by Mondobubba:
OHH! Please let it be Perry then Scott and Christy!
Perry was just indicted a few months ago so I don't expect that for a year or two. I'd love to see Christi but he's their golden boy to run. Don't think they want to mess up his chances. Scott's been teetering for a while that might be the one.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 20:12:11
I think Perry will plea out. Trnsvag could have taken a plea… and didn't
In the mean time:
Raine on 09/04/2014 20:12:11
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
OHH! Please let it be Perry then Scott and Christy!
Perry was just indicted a few months ago so I don't expect that for a year or two. I'd love to see Christi but he's their golden boy to run. Don't think they want to mess up his chances. Scott's been teetering for a while that might be the one.
In the mean time:
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 20:17:03
Raine on 09/04/2014 20:17:03
MAla the WTOP talk back line is coming up…. I am interested to hear what people have to say about this verdict.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/04/2014 20:18:14
Mondobubba on 09/04/2014 20:18:14
Quote by Raine:I think Perry will plea out. Trnsvag could have taken a plea… and didn'tQuote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
OHH! Please let it be Perry then Scott and Christy!
Perry was just indicted a few months ago so I don't expect that for a year or two. I'd love to see Christi but he's their golden boy to run. Don't think they want to mess up his chances. Scott's been teetering for a while that might be the one.
In the mean time:
Comment by wickedpam on 09/04/2014 20:20:44
let me know - I don't have it on.
wickedpam on 09/04/2014 20:20:44
Quote by Raine:
MAla the WTOP talk back line is coming up…. I am interested to hear what people have to say about this verdict.
let me know - I don't have it on.
Comment by BobR on 09/04/2014 20:24:15
BobR on 09/04/2014 20:24:15
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:I think Perry will plea out. Trnsvag could have taken a plea… and didn'tQuote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
OHH! Please let it be Perry then Scott and Christy!
Perry was just indicted a few months ago so I don't expect that for a year or two. I'd love to see Christi but he's their golden boy to run. Don't think they want to mess up his chances. Scott's been teetering for a while that might be the one.
In the mean time:
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 21:16:03
Raine on 09/04/2014 21:16:03
I can already see this verdict sending chills down the spines of lobbyists.
Comment by Raine on 09/04/2014 22:05:05
Raine on 09/04/2014 22:05:05
Comment by Scoopster on 09/04/2014 22:08:24
Skipping back to Kansas for a moment... yes, the GOP SoS there is REALLY THIS DUMB!
Scoopster on 09/04/2014 22:08:24
Quote by Scoopster:
Something funny is going on in a few of these races this year.
In the Alaska Governor's race, the Dem nominee has dropped out, swung his support to the independent candidate and joined his ticket as the Lt.Gov. pick. All in an effort to unseat the highly unpopular GOP governor Sean Parnell, who would have likely won a 3-way contest.
Then there's Kansas, which was highlighted on Rachel Maddow yesterday. Similar deal here - the Dem party nominee has dropped out of the race and given his endorsement to a VERY popular independent candidate, in an effort to unseat GOP Sen. Pat Roberts.
And finally North Carolina, where Sen. Kay Hagan is in a tough contest with Rep. Thom Tillis, the Speaker of the NC House. There's an extremely potent Libertarian Party candidate in the race, and he's pulling a lot of support from both sides. However we know Libertarians tend to pull more from the GOP candidate these days, so things are looking very good now for Hagan.
Skipping back to Kansas for a moment... yes, the GOP SoS there is REALLY THIS DUMB!