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Author: Raine    Date: 12/18/2014 14:22:00

I know that Cuba has long been a contentious subject in the the United States. People older than I remember learning about the Bay of Pigs, the overthrow of Batiste in Cuba, heralding in the Castro dictatorship. I was taught about the Cuban Missile crisis. I only know the little I was taught in High School, and later from documentaries, movies and reading.

I was taught about the cold war, and have recollections of the evil USSR and the bomb. We did have air raid drills in my small rural upstate NY school. I grew up at the end of that war. I am not unfamiliar to it, but I didn't experience it the way my parents and grandparents did. My normal is far different from theirs. My Grandmother will go to her grave hating the Japanese for the Second world war, Cubans that fled their country and their families will go to their graves hating Castro. Ironically, I have Japanese friends, the way that I am sure there are people who have friends in today's Cuba. My history is different.

Much has changed in this world. Kennedy was killed long before I was born, the USSR is broken up and now primarily known as Russia. Nikita Khrushchev is far removed from being a person discussed in geopolitical world views. Since that time, only the Queen of England seems to still be relevant, with one exception: Castro.

While Fidel is no longer 'President' his brother is only a slightly warmer version of the man who controlled Cuba for so many decades.

Politically, in all that time, Cuba has not really changed. The people are poor, but its leadership's mindset hasn't changed. The generation of Cubans that are my age must be experiencing American History the way I experienced theirs - from a distance, from the remnants of those who can still tell the story of what happened.

I have never viewed Cuba as an enemy, per say. Only as a country that I am not to trust. and as the years go by, that history becomes more and more distant and far away.

When the President said he was normalizing relations with Cuba yesterday, I viewed it as something sensible. After 50 years, it's not like this embargo was going to change anything, so why not try something different? Radical change often causes radical results. This announcement is not radical in a violent way, it is radical in that someone decided to blink and extend a hand. President Obama said it himself:
Cuba may be where Obama is finally getting to apply whatever lessons he learned from Iraq and the Arab Spring. “It does not serve America’s interests, or the Cuban people, to try to push Cuba toward collapse,” he said. “Even if that worked—and it hasn't for fifty years—we know from hard-earned experience that countries are more likely to enjoy lasting transformation if their people are not subjected to chaos.”

People who came here in the 60s-70s from Cuba may be very angry at this move. The pain of what happened should not be dismissed, but acknowledged. It's the younger generations that will welcome this change in relations. Some will say Castro won, but I think the people of the country won. I think a younger generation of people will have the chance one day to look at their history on the day that they were told, American is normalizing relations with this far away and yet so close nation — you can have your heritage.

&

Raine

37 comments (Latest Comment: 12/18/2014 21:50:51 by Raine)
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Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 14:23:01
Thanks for the Stub Mala!

Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 14:23:19
good morning!

Comment by wickedpam on 12/18/2014 14:32:23
No prob - figured ya'll were working on it

Morning all

Comment by wickedpam on 12/18/2014 14:42:55
As for Cuba - I'm kind of looking forward to going one day - though my only real concept of the place came from the musical Guys & Dolls.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/18/2014 15:19:25
Quote by wickedpam:
As for Cuba - I'm kind of looking forward to going one day - though my only real concept of the place came from the musical Guys & Dolls.



Mob movies.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/18/2014 15:22:55



Landen with symbolism as the cut slices of Hyman Roth's birthday cake. I love this scene.

Oh Tri, don't watch.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/18/2014 15:24:45
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by wickedpam:
As for Cuba - I'm kind of looking forward to going one day - though my only real concept of the place came from the musical Guys & Dolls.



Mob movies.



I don't watch Mob movies - not really in my wheel house.

Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 15:32:18
what if this entire incident with the Interview is actually an Argo Style stunt?

Comment by Will in Chicago on 12/18/2014 15:37:01
Good morning, bloggers!!!

I am home today as winter break has begun. I hope that everyone is well.

I saw an eye specialist yesterday. Somehow, I developed a small ulcer on my right cornea. So, I am getting drops constantly till I see the doctor again tomorrow morning. I am hopeful that the drops will turn things around.

Comment by wickedpam on 12/18/2014 15:37:44
Quote by Raine:
what if this entire incident with the Interview is actually an Argo Style stunt?



Wouldn't surprise me. When it first started I remembered the William Castle used to do this extreme marketing for his moves like have people sign forms saying if they died while watching his movie he was liable and stuff like that. Man was a marketing genius!

Personally the movie looked crappy and frankly, I'm happy to be liberated from another Bro-movie. Not a fan of Rogen or Franco - just don't find them funny.

As for Sony pulling the movie - probably not a smart idea.

Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 15:45:32
18 months ago Rubio had issues to Raul Castro's Daughter coming to the USA.


Negations started 18 months ago with Cuba.

IF anyone thinks this man has any chops to become PResident, they are delusional, Did he really think she was coming to the USA for a tourism trip?!?!

Comment by Scoopster on 12/18/2014 15:46:01
Mornin' all..

Oh this is too cute.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/18/2014 15:53:53
Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 15:56:16
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

Oh this is too cute.
I like it!

But I like Rob Lowe's commercials even better…

Comment by Scoopster on 12/18/2014 16:22:26
Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 16:32:16
I am not surprised at this at all.

IT still doesn't tarnish what happened.


Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 16:41:47
With all the hullabullo in that awful citi-omnibus bill, there was this piece of very good news.
The bill, the Omnibus Appropriations Act, includes several funding increases for curbing gun violence. The law calls for $73 million to help prevent felons, fugitives, and domestic abusers from buying guns by improving state submissions of prohibited people into the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). The price tag is the highest amount ever allocated to the system.

The new measure also requires the FBI to report how well states are performing in submitting records to NICS, and includes $75 million for a national school safety initiative and $6 million to the U.S. Department of Justice for community-based efforts, such as public health programs.



Comment by Scoopster on 12/18/2014 16:43:25
Quote by Raine:
I am not surprised at this at all.

IT still doesn't tarnish what happened.

No definitely not. And my engineer friend says we probably aren't interested anyways because of the market right now, and because there's so much production going on in the Dakotas.

Comment by TriSec on 12/18/2014 16:49:10
I've got an awful lot on my mind WRT Cuber. I may write my own blog. But coupled with the oil story, and enough ex-pats to be relevant, ponder that maybe one day we could have a 51st star?

Comment by BobR on 12/18/2014 16:49:45
Quote by Raine:
With all the hullabullo in that awful citi-omnibus bill, there was this piece of very good news.
The bill, the Omnibus Appropriations Act, includes several funding increases for curbing gun violence. The law calls for $73 million to help prevent felons, fugitives, and domestic abusers from buying guns by improving state submissions of prohibited people into the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). The price tag is the highest amount ever allocated to the system.

The new measure also requires the FBI to report how well states are performing in submitting records to NICS, and includes $75 million for a national school safety initiative and $6 million to the U.S. Department of Justice for community-based efforts, such as public health programs.


That AND getting the Surgeon General nominee approved? The NRA must be apoplectic.

Comment by BobR on 12/18/2014 16:50:17
Quote by TriSec:
I've got an awful lot on my mind WRT Cuber. I may write my own blog. But coupled with the oil story, and enough ex-pats to be relevant, ponder that maybe one day we could have a 51st star?

They'd need to get in line behind Puerto Rico

Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 17:34:47
Quote by BobR:
Quote by TriSec:
I've got an awful lot on my mind WRT Cuber. I may write my own blog. But coupled with the oil story, and enough ex-pats to be relevant, ponder that maybe one day we could have a 51st star?

They'd need to get in line behind Puerto Rico
And PR is standing behind DC.


Comment by wickedpam on 12/18/2014 17:35:05
Is it me or is Thom a little too focused on the pot issue?

Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 18:18:34
Quote by wickedpam:
Is it me or is Thom a little too focused on the pot issue?
It's really strange.

But I would rather this discussion than locusts and plague.


Comment by wickedpam on 12/18/2014 18:21:41
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Is it me or is Thom a little too focused on the pot issue?
It's really strange.

But I would rather this discussion than locusts and plague.



true, think I'm going to find something else though

Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 18:24:07
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Is it me or is Thom a little too focused on the pot issue?
It's really strange.

But I would rather this discussion than locusts and plague.



true, think I'm going to find something else though
Makes me want some

I really really hope we can decriminalize it in Virginia.



Comment by livingonli on 12/18/2014 18:28:16
Good day, folks. Back to my normal day off. Have to get a haircut and I will probably just catch up on some DVR recordings.

Comment by livingonli on 12/18/2014 18:36:49
To quote Homer Simpson, maybe Thom Hartmann maybe "wants to play in the mud and be a hippie".

Comment by wickedpam on 12/18/2014 19:02:32
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Is it me or is Thom a little too focused on the pot issue?
It's really strange.

But I would rather this discussion than locusts and plague.



true, think I'm going to find something else though
Makes me want some

I really really hope we can decriminalize it in Virginia.




honestly, I've never had any desire to try it. Think I'll stick with my sugar addiction that I really need to curb.

Comment by Mondobubba on 12/18/2014 20:18:58
Today in bat shit crazy.

Michele Bachmann: I destroyed liberal arguments with my superior logic


Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 20:22:48
Quote by Mondobubba:
Today in bat shit crazy.

Michele Bachmann: I destroyed liberal arguments with my superior logic
That entire article is just insane. That woman makes Gohmert look smart.

Comment by Scoopster on 12/18/2014 20:24:20
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Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 20:29:33
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https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10380965_872412366124404_2932440634216563493_n.jpg?oh=3e1503b9cf5eb7dcceacb70e9a844a65&oe=55052845





perfection!

Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 20:34:54
Want to know how crazy this nation has become in ten years?
In the wake of Sony Pictures canceling its release of The Interview, some theaters with actual balls opted to show Team America: World Police as a protest. No such luck. In a truly staggering act of cowardice, Paramount appears to be telling theaters to shut it all down. What the fuck.


Comment by Mondobubba on 12/18/2014 20:44:29
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Today in bat shit crazy.

Michele Bachmann: I destroyed liberal arguments with my superior logic
That entire article is just insane. That woman makes Gohmert look smart.


They are different critters. Gohmert is dumb as a bag of used hammers. Bachmann is totally bat crap nuts.

Comment by Raine on 12/18/2014 21:50:51