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Author: Raine    Date: 06/12/2008 12:33:39

Yesterday, John McCain declared that bringing the troops home and setting a deadline for withdrawal for Iraq was "not too important". What exactly is important to these people? Certainly not helping Americans who are still in a state of crisis and need. Like troop withdrawal seems to be for for McCain, FEMA doesn't seems to think getting aid to disaster victims is important either. Republican mismanagement: it is deadly, a lot like war. FEMA gave away $85,000,000 worth of aid slated for victims of the storm. It didn't go where it was meant to go.
The material, from basic kitchen goods to sleeping necessities, sat in warehouses for two years before the Federal Emergency Management Agency's giveaway to federal and state agencies this year.

James McIntyre, FEMA's acting press secretary, said that FEMA was spending more than $1 million a year to store the material and that another agency wanted the warehouses torn down, so "we needed to vacate them."

"Upon review of our assets and our need to continue to store them, we determined that they were excess to FEMA's needs; therefore, they are being excessed from FEMA's inventory," McIntyre wrote in an e-mail.
[...]
"These are exactly the items that we are desperately seeking donations of right now: basic kitchen household supplies," said Kegel, executive director of Unity of Greater New Orleans. "These are the very things that we are seeking right now. FEMA, in fact, refers homeless clients to us to house them. How can we house them if we don't have basic supplies?"
[...]
McIntyre said that most of the items given away were not "standard-issue type supplies" that FEMA would have distributed after other disasters. He said that using the GSA, which manages federal property, to get rid of those stockpiles was "standard process."...

Pallets at the Fort Worth warehouse were piled high with boxes of buckets, boots, cleansers, mops and brooms. There were stacks of tents, lanterns and camp stoves for people still displaced, as well as clothing, bedding, plates and utensils.

Meanwhile, Kegel said, Unity's clients can take only "one fork, one spoon, one knife; they can only take one plate. We don't have enough to go around."

But FEMA said the items were no longer needed in the stricken region. So it declared them "federal surplus" and gave them away.

There are so many things wrong with this story I do not know where to begin. We are still evicting people from
FEMA trailers. A report issued in April of THIS year says FEMA is still not ready:
The Federal Emergency Management Agency is better prepared for the next disaster, but it is not completely ready for another Hurricane Katrina-scale catastrophe, the agency's watchdog says.
So WHY is FEMA giving away the very items it would need for a disaster this size? Why didn't FEMA make an attempt to get these supplies to the people who have been calling to get them? Where did the 85 million dollars money go?

The magnitude of the criminally negligent mismanagement of this agency is still raging on. FEMA knew that these people in the trailers needed these supplies. Hell - FEMA knew that these people needed trailers 3 years years ago and it took them upwards of a year to get them to people, and when they did, they were poisonous. FEMA could not get ice delivered to the victims of the disaster, so how did they change that policy? They decided to no longer store ice for hurricane victims. These are not just a matters of social issues, they are matters of fiscal mismanagement as well. People are still dying due to these missteps in the Gulf.

We must elect someone that really cares about Americans and REALLY cares about a disaster response agency being able to do it's job. Oh, and if you think it is John McCain? You are wrong. He never thought it was that important, just like telling the truth. His patterns of deceptions can be found here.
McCain Voted Against Establishing A Commission To Study The Response To Hurricane Katrina...TWICE. McCain voted against amendments establishing a Congressional commission to examine Federal, State, and local response to devastation wrought by Hurricane Katrina in U.S. Gulf Region, especially in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and other areas impacted in the aftermath; and makes immediate corrective measures to improve future responses. (2006 Senate Vote #6, 2/2/2006; 2005 Senate Vote #229, 9/14/2005)
There are people still dying from the aftereffects of Katrina. But don't think it about it too much. It isn't important, really. So let them eat cake, today, americans are still dying.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/images/20050829-5_p082905pm-0125-515h.jpg


:peace: and :heart:
Raine

 

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Comment by Scoopster on 06/12/2008 12:47:09
It's pretty telling that not even the real hardcore Republicans get enthusiatic about McCain being their candidate, even if he is just another party scumbag.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 12:47:44
Nice post, Raine!



And on Fed's response to Katrina - consider the funding supplemental. (caution! large .pdf) The major funds to be allocated for Hurricane Katrina relief were put in the 2006 Iraq War supplemental. (Even though, two years later Bush whined about a Democratic Congress adding spending to the 2008 supplemental that was not related to the war.)



The effect? If you read the 2006 bill carefully, any monies allocated for Katrina relief and NOT spent within the 2006 fiscal year automatically reverted to Iraq War funding.





Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 12:58:21
Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 12:58:50
OH, and Good Morning!

Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 13:00:30
Morning, folks!



The "Friends of 61" scholarship dinner was a raging success...we had the largest turnout in our long history for the event last night. It was also the Troop's 80th birthday...considering that the BSA is 98 years old this year, that's not too shabby; not very many Troops older than us in the US, and we are indeed one of the longest tenured units in the northeast.



Did anyone watch "Deal or No Deal" last night? What's this I hear about some dude wearing a scout uniform?



And you all heard about the tornado in Iowa by now. I've been in the field in some pretty severe weather myself; you've got noplace to go. I suppose the real news should be that it wasn't more than 4 fatalities.



Of course, they won't be getting any help from FEMA....





Comment by MNRN on 06/12/2008 13:06:36
hi Tri and co., yeah is been pretty scary weatherwise out here on the plains. I thought about when and where we had our GScouts a few weeks ago. Pretty open area, same thing coulda happened. yeesh.



morning. Tri, nice to see you in full voice....

Comment by BobR on 06/12/2008 13:08:30
Real Live unicorn found



No it isn't magic, nor rainbow colored...

Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 13:11:29


Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 13:13:35
Quote by BobR:

Real Live unicorn found



No it isn't magic, nor rainbow colored...




Run little, Italian deer! Andiamo! 'They' will try to get you and put you in a cage!

:sprint:

Comment by Scoopster on 06/12/2008 13:15:52
Quote by BobR:

Real Live unicorn found



No it isn't magic, nor rainbow colored...




Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 13:16:26




Twas posted here first!



Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 13:19:33
The oil companies are following the corparate strategy of DeBeers.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 13:20:22
Quote by Raine:





Twas posted here first!

4F "Always ahead of the curve."

Comment by MNRN on 06/12/2008 13:25:39
its an awesome site....well laid out, good links, etc. Yay!



we are having a lazy morning here. I will have to go to work soon tho :snif:

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 13:27:25
Quote by MNRN:

its an awesome site....well laid out, good links, etc. Yay!



we are having a lazy morning here. I will have to go to work soon tho :snif:
It is nice to see you MNRN!



Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 13:28:10
Mornin' Everybody, :coffee:

Sorry I wasn't around yesterday - I had a crash n burn day. Excellent post Raine - I still have visions in my sleep of acres and acres of trailers sitting out in the hot sun somewhere in Arkansas (I believe) that are costing us taxpayers millions of dollars in storage. Just stiing there. Wasted, just like the truckloads of ice that melted outside New Orleans waiting to be delivered to folks who throats were parched. :bad:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 13:28:38
"Tiny tic-tac of a brain in a giant noggin"

Comment by MNRN on 06/12/2008 13:30:38
on hold to 'esplain the difference between an inhaler and a breathalyzer for Hannity

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 13:39:03
I posted a sign in my condo complex mailroom: "Free working microwave. Stop by #15-N if you would like it. Thanks, Terri"

Someone drew an arrow towards my name and wrote "I like the cock." and, then drew a very elementary picture of a blowjob.



:thud:



First of all, that statement couldn't be further from the truth.

Second of all, come on people. A little creativity when you are going to deface something that another resident posted.



Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 13:40:19
Say now, if the right continually brings up Chappaquiddick (circa 1969), are we now allowed to continue harping on the Keating Five? (circa 1989).



I was just reading up on that...curious that Mr. McCain was the only Republican involved in it....even more curious that he's the only one still in office.





Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 13:43:16
Good morning everyone.



Listening to Dennis reminds me of why he was my candidate. Too bad he had to bail out so early.

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 13:46:55
Quote by MNRN:

on hold to 'esplain the difference between an inhaler and a breathalyzer for Hannity


:clap: yay!

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 13:48:53
Quote by starling310:

I posted a sign in my condo complex mailroom: "Free working microwave. Stop by #15-N if you would like it. Thanks, Terri"

Someone drew an arrow towards my name and wrote "I like the cock." and, then drew a very elementary picture of a blowjob.



:thud:



First of all, that statement couldn't be further from the truth.

Second of all, come on people. A little creativity when you are going to deface something that another resident posted.

How machooaw.



So you have teenagers living in the complex?







Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 13:49:16
Quote by starling310:

I posted a sign in my condo complex mailroom: "Free working microwave. Stop by #15-N if you would like it. Thanks, Terri"

Someone drew an arrow towards my name and wrote "I like the cock." and, then drew a very elementary picture of a blowjob.



:thud:



First of all, that statement couldn't be further from the truth.

Second of all, come on people. A little creativity when you are going to deface something that another resident posted.

What a complete bummer - and waste of time.



And there's a likely reason the picture was "elementary." (Insert snark here)



Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 13:49:31
:clap: MNRN!!!!

Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 13:49:35
MNRN.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/12/2008 13:50:01
Morning :hug:



Ohh! Just in time to hear our illustrious MNRN! :clap:

Comment by MNRN on 06/12/2008 13:50:03
yikes did I sound too nervous???



Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 13:50:17
Raine,

How's your sister doing? Is she home now? Hope things are all okay... :hug:

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 13:51:57
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

I posted a sign in my condo complex mailroom: "Free working microwave. Stop by #15-N if you would like it. Thanks, Terri"

Someone drew an arrow towards my name and wrote "I like the cock." and, then drew a very elementary picture of a blowjob.



:thud:



First of all, that statement couldn't be further from the truth.

Second of all, come on people. A little creativity when you are going to deface something that another resident posted.

How machooaw.



So you have teenagers living in the complex?









Seriously.



So much for doing something nice. Oh well. . .

The microwave will be going to GoodWill.





Comment by wickedpam on 06/12/2008 13:52:01
Quote by MNRN:

yikes did I sound too nervous???





you were great!



Comment by MNRN on 06/12/2008 13:52:01
Quote by TriSec:

Say now, if the right continually brings up Chappaquiddick (circa 1969), are we now allowed to continue harping on the Keating Five? (circa 1989).



I was just reading up on that...curious that Mr. McCain was the only Republican involved in it....even more curious that he's the only one still in office.





the nurse votes yes...

Comment by Scoopster on 06/12/2008 13:52:11
Wooo MNRN!

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 13:52:18
Quote by MNRN:

yikes did I sound too nervous???





You did great!



Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 13:52:26
Quote by MNRN:

yikes did I sound too nervous???



You did fine.

Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 13:54:13
OK, I've been back in the fray two days, and Sanchez has called both days.



What's up with this guy? [hint: Get a Life!]





Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 13:55:31
The whole point of Impeachment hearings opening is that it would most likely lead to criminal charges. The Impeachment hearings will start the digging!



Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 13:55:35
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

I posted a sign in my condo complex mailroom: "Free working microwave. Stop by #15-N if you would like it. Thanks, Terri"

Someone drew an arrow towards my name and wrote "I like the cock." and, then drew a very elementary picture of a blowjob.



:thud:



First of all, that statement couldn't be further from the truth.

Second of all, come on people. A little creativity when you are going to deface something that another resident posted.

How machooaw.



So you have teenagers living in the complex?









Seriously.



So much for doing something nice. Oh well. . .

The microwave will be going to GoodWill.





At least someone will appreciate it.

Comment by MNRN on 06/12/2008 13:56:03
well now that my work here is done, the sick kiddies await....

:hug: to all....

Comment by Scoopster on 06/12/2008 13:57:12
Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 13:58:27
:rofl: Things Younger than John McCain...

The LP record

Zip Codes

Duct Tape

Israel

India

Pakistan

Automatic Transmissions

The US Flag Code

Rotary Phones



Anything else we know of that is younger than John McCAin?





Comment by wickedpam on 06/12/2008 14:00:12






And 10 to one those trollys STILL won't come by my house for the commute to work



Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 14:00:30
Quote by m-hadley:

Raine,

How's your sister doing? Is she home now? Hope things are all okay... :hug:

Cheers,

mfaye



She is doing ok, yes she came home the other day. I have to call today to see if she went back to work. She is being very stubborn about this stuff.

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 14:02:25
you and I are thinking the same way Scoop!



Comment by Scoopster on 06/12/2008 14:07:12
Quote by Raine:

:rofl: Things Younger than John McCain...

The LP record

Zip Codes

Duct Tape

Israel

India

Pakistan

Automatic Transmissions

The US Flag Code

Rotary Phones



Anything else we know of that is younger than John McCAin?



The Social Security Administration?

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 14:08:28
OMG, my ears!!! they are bleeding!!!!


Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 14:09:03
Ow! My ears are bleeding!

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 14:09:12
The McCain Girls are fake. They did it as a joke.

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 14:11:26
Nothing will EVER beat the McCain Girls:







Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 14:12:02
holy [lying sac of] crap - Mike in Raleigh

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 14:14:00
Quote by starling310:

The McCain Girls are fake. They did it as a joke.
Ok, I think they outdid themselves









Comment by wickedpam on 06/12/2008 14:14:12
Rapture? Who knew it was an industry :shrug:

Comment by BobR on 06/12/2008 14:16:07


Hey now - most good guitar amps still use tubes!

Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 14:17:31


Comment by wickedpam on 06/12/2008 14:26:44
Well I just did the math to see if I could take mass tansit - it's cheaper to take the car......



Round trip on the Omnibus $5.00

Round trip from Vienna Metro to Van Dorn - $9.00 (rush hour prices) $5.00 all other times

Walk 1/2 mile to work - 0

total - $10 - $14 a day!



Yeah - mass transit so frickin easy when you like just outside of the more established areas!

Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 14:27:02
Quote by Raine:

:rofl: Things Younger than John McCain...

The LP record

Zip Codes

Duct Tape

Israel

India

Pakistan

Automatic Transmissions

The US Flag Code

Rotary Phones



Anything else we know of that is younger than John McCAin?







Jet Aircraft, Radar, Sonar...



How about color TV? FM Radio?







Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 14:28:04
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by Raine:

:rofl: Things Younger than John McCain...

The LP record

Zip Codes

Duct Tape

Israel

India

Pakistan

Automatic Transmissions

The US Flag Code

Rotary Phones



Anything else we know of that is younger than John McCAin?



The Social Security Administration?




Here's a list that I found and sent to Steph almost a month ago - it is slightly repetitive.





He's older than "Life" and "Look."

He's older than Elmer Fudd and Daffy Duck.

He's older than the stars of "The Bucket List"--Jack Nicholson and Morgan Freeman. The jokes write themselves....

He's older than disposable diapers... which i'm wearing right now!



Batman (1939)

The Manhattan Project (1939) and the Atomic Bomb

LaGuardia Airport (1939)

Pinocchio (1940)



When he was born the US had only 48 States. Could he deal with the additional 2?

Became a state in:

Alaska - Jan. 3, 1959

Hawaii - Aug. 21, 1959



Also younger than McCain:



The NBA-1946 NASCAR-1948 The NCAA Basketball Tournament-1939



And I am a McCain admirer who is only a few years younger. I'm sure he's laughing at this, if he's seen it.



He's older than BATMAN, GANDALF, SOCIAL SECURITY, CAR LICENSE PLATES, SADIE HAWKINS DAY, SEEING EYE DOGS, LIFE MAGAZINE, HOOVER DAM, NYLON TOOTHBRUSH BRISTLES, MARCH OF DIMES, SUPERMAN, and CHILD LABOR LAWS



Wow - I'm amazed that in all these comments very few people have contributed any ideas! Here are a few:



-Ballpoint Pen



-Computer Software



-Microwave Oven



-Slinkey



-Silly Puddy



-Frisbee



John McCain is older than:

--Rock'n'Roll (ca. 1955)

--Life Magazine (Nov. 1936)

--India (1947)

--The majority of African countries

--The Hobbit (1937)

--Bugs Bunny AND Daffy Duck (1937-38)

--Hewlett-Packard (1939)

--Israel (1947)

--The Atomic Bomb (1945)

--Alaska and Hawaii as states (1959)

--Maury Povich (1939)

--All of the Beatles (1940, 1942, and 1943)

--The Pasadena Freeway AND New Jersey Turnpike (1940 and 1950)



Older than Dick Cheney - ouch!



He was also born before:



1. Winston Churchill commenced his prime ministership of Great Britain

2. Germany invaded Poland in WWII

3. The Hindenburg explosion

4. Buddy Holly

5. The Wizard of Oz (movie)

6. Amelia Earhart disappeared

7. George Gershwin died

8. Edward VIII abdicated the throne

9. Madeleine Albright

10. Gone With the Wind (movie)



Oil in Saudi Arabia

The ball point pen

Superman and Batman

Daffy Duck and Buggs Bunny

The Minimum wage in the US

Hewlett-Packard

The Grapes of Wrath and Of Mice and Men

Pan-Am

Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs

Thailand (as opposed to Siam...)

Buddy Holly would be if still alive



Also: Animals that weren't extinct yet when John McCain was born:

Caspian Tiger

Cape Lion

Japenese Sea Lion

Guam Flying Fox

Korean Sea-eagle

Volcano Islands Peregrine Falcon



A couple more things:



- Food Stamps

- Social Security

- Multi-lane highways (PA Turnpike is the first in 1940.)

- Women in the Military

- HMO's

- The Atom Bomb

- The Cold War (1945-1992)

- United Nations

- The Pentagon

- Transistors

- Jets

- The NBA



John McCain is officially older than...



1) under God in the pledge of allegiance (than old staple of McCarthyism didn't happen until June 14, 1954)

2) "In God we Trust" on our dollars (October 1, 1957)

3) Older than our knowledge of modern genetics (April 25, 1953 when Watson and Crick published on the structure of DNA)



He's also older than the photocopier (37), the ballpoint pen (38), teflon (38), aerosol spray cans (41), the Slinky (43), Silly Putty (43), the atomic bomb (45), The Microwave (46), The Transistor Radio (47), The Jukebox (48), Super Glue (51) Video Tape (51) Diet Soda (52), BARBIE (59) Hand held Calculators (67) and much more!



Source:

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=249738



Cheers,

mfaye :heart:



Comment by BobR on 06/12/2008 14:29:11
FYI - Raine on hold with the show...

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 14:31:47
Quote by wickedpam:

Well I just did the math to see if I could take mass tansit - it's cheaper to take the car......



Round trip on the Omnibus $5.00

Round trip from Vienna Metro to Van Dorn - $9.00 (rush hour prices) $5.00 all other times

Walk 1/2 mile to work - 0

total - $10 - $14 a day!



Yeah - mass transit so frickin easy when you like just outside of the more established areas!




I hear ya Mala. It's impossbile to take Mass Transit outside of Hartford or New Haven in CT.





Comment by Scoopster on 06/12/2008 14:32:46
Cmon now Barack, dump the anti-union Wal-Mart lover.



Who says we can't be critical of Obama..



Edit: My bad on this one for just skimming, but the writer of the item on this link seems to have deliberately left out information in order to skew opinion and tone.

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 14:34:30
:kickcan: Am I gonna have to follow Maxine Waters?!?!?

Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 14:40:54
Quote by Raine:

:kickcan: Am I gonna have to follow Maxine Waters?!?!?


That's a tough act to follow.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/12/2008 14:41:16
Quote by starling310:

Quote by wickedpam:

Well I just did the math to see if I could take mass tansit - it's cheaper to take the car......



Round trip on the Omnibus $5.00

Round trip from Vienna Metro to Van Dorn - $9.00 (rush hour prices) $5.00 all other times

Walk 1/2 mile to work - 0

total - $10 - $14 a day!



Yeah - mass transit so frickin easy when you like just outside of the more established areas!




I hear ya Mala. It's impossbile to take Mass Transit outside of Hartford or New Haven in CT.







It's really frustrating not only is it really expensive but it take more then twice as long to get to work then. If I'm paying threw the nose to commute I would rather get to my destination faster.



Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 14:42:37
Heya Folks,

Here is the most recent SCOTUS Decision (5-4 in favor of upholding Habeas Corpus).

Two words why a vote for McCain is a HUGE mistake "Supreme Court"



BREAKING NEWS -- U.S. Supreme Court issues ruling in cases challenging whether Military Commissions Act of 2006 violates the habeas corpus rights of foreign detainees held at Guantanamo Bay: According to this post at "SCOTUSblog," "[t]he ruling below, which found for the government, is reversed. Justice Kennedy wrote the opinion. The Chief Justice, Justice Scalia, Thomas and Alito dissented."

You can access today's 134-page, 5-4 ruling in Boumediene v. Bush, No. 06-1195, at this link. For those wishing to view the oral argument transcript, it remains online here.

Cheers,

mfaye :heart:





Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 14:45:13
Quote by m-hadley:

Heya Folks,

Here is the most recent SCOTUS Decision (5-4 in favor of upholding Habeas Corpus).

Two words why a vote for McCain is a HUGE mistake "Supreme Court"



BREAKING NEWS -- U.S. Supreme Court issues ruling in cases challenging whether Military Commissions Act of 2006 violates the habeas corpus rights of foreign detainees held at Guantanamo Bay: According to this post at "SCOTUSblog," "[t]he ruling below, which found for the government, is reversed. Justice Kennedy wrote the opinion. The Chief Justice, Justice Scalia, Thomas and Alito dissented."

You can access today's 134-page, 5-4 ruling in Boumediene v. Bush, No. 06-1195, at this link. For those wishing to view the oral argument transcript, it remains online here.

Cheers,

mfaye :heart:



HOLY CRAP!!! Wonderful news Faye!!! :clap:



Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 14:45:26
I wish we had decent mass transit on Long Island. It's good if you are going into NYC but if I want to go anywhere else on Long Island any public transit commutes are long and very out of the way.

Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 14:47:37
If you live on a bus line or can walk to the station, the MBTA in Boston is great. (Yes on both counts for me.)



But if you have to drive and then pay for parking, it becomes ineffective. It's $5 to park for the day, plus $2 one-way to Boston. (unlike other cities, Boston is a flat rate no matter the time or distance).



So, you've got $9/day to take the subway, or you can still find parking downtown for $7/day. (Fan pier, 5 minutes to walk to Downtown Crossing)









Comment by BobR on 06/12/2008 14:47:57
Quote by m-hadley:

Heya Folks,

Here is the most recent SCOTUS Decision (5-4 in favor of upholding Habeas Corpus).

Two words why a vote for McCain is a HUGE mistake "Supreme Court"



BREAKING NEWS -- U.S. Supreme Court issues ruling in cases challenging whether Military Commissions Act of 2006 violates the habeas corpus rights of foreign detainees held at Guantanamo Bay: According to this post at "SCOTUSblog," "[t]he ruling below, which found for the government, is reversed. Justice Kennedy wrote the opinion. The Chief Justice, Justice Scalia, Thomas and Alito dissented."

You can access today's 134-page, 5-4 ruling in Boumediene v. Bush, No. 06-1195, at this link. For those wishing to view the oral argument transcript, it remains online here.

Cheers,

mfaye :heart:





YES!!!



We STILL have a Constitution!



Comment by wickedpam on 06/12/2008 14:50:28
Raine!

Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 14:50:36
Raine!

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 14:52:29
Darn, I wanted to make the point that this was FOX, not the comedy channel we are talking about regarding the comment.







Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 14:52:37
Raine :bow:

Way to go grrrl! :hug:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 14:55:41
Quote by Raine:

Quote by m-hadley:

Heya Folks,

Here is the most recent SCOTUS Decision (5-4 in favor of upholding Habeas Corpus).

Two words why a vote for McCain is a HUGE mistake "Supreme Court"



BREAKING NEWS -- U.S. Supreme Court issues ruling in cases challenging whether Military Commissions Act of 2006 violates the habeas corpus rights of foreign detainees held at Guantanamo Bay: According to this post at "SCOTUSblog," "[t]he ruling below, which found for the government, is reversed. Justice Kennedy wrote the opinion. The Chief Justice, Justice Scalia, Thomas and Alito dissented."

You can access today's 134-page, 5-4 ruling in Boumediene v. Bush, No. 06-1195, at this link. For those wishing to view the oral argument transcript, it remains online here.

Cheers,

mfaye :heart:



HOLY CRAP!!! Wonderful news Faye!!! :clap:





I just sent it to Steph and Chris and she read it on the air (w/out credit ) oh well...

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 15:01:01
Say, I just heard that commercial on NovaM about internet searches and their algorithms and such.



I just googled "Four Freedoms".....we're on page four. We're top of the list when you search for "Four Freedoms Blog".









Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 15:01:05
Dang - it's an all 4F day on the SMS phone lines!

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 15:01:45
I find the Daily Kos layout confusing.

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 15:02:08
If they didn't announce it I was gonna tell them that you posted it... oh well.







Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 15:02:30
Heya folks,

Here is more from the most recent SCOTUS decision: (emphasis mine)



Both the Chief Justice and Justice Antonin Scalia issued dissenting opinions, and all four dissenters joined in both opinions. In his dissent, Justice Scalia writes, "The game of bait-and-switch that today's opinion plays upon the Nation's Commander in Chief will make the war harder on us. It will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed." Justice Scalia's 25-page dissenting opinion concludes, "The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today. I dissent." Damn Scalia



At "SCOTUSblog," Lyle Denniston has a post titled "Court gives detainees habeas rights." Lyle's post describes the ruling as "a stunning blow to the Bush Administration in its war-on-terrorism policies."



Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 15:03:30
Say, AP Newsman....



Retail sales were up 1% since the rebate checks came out?



In what sector? Big-ticket items, or things like food, clothing, fuel, etc?





Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 15:06:18
Ah yes, here's more about the stimulus...



The retail sales report showed that general merchandise stores, which include department stores and discount stores such as Wal-Mart, saw sales rise by 1.2 percent, the best showing since a 2.1 percent rise in March 2007.




I'd call that food, clothing, fuel...





Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 15:13:09
Quote by TriSec:

Say, I just heard that commercial on NovaM about internet searches and their algorithms and such.



I just googled "Four Freedoms".....we're on page four. We're top of the list when you search for "Four Freedoms Blog".

you know, that is kindof a big deal... When we first got started, we got little or nothing. Then in order to get it to show up, you had to type it in as one word...



This is a little exiting...

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 15:13:47
I said it on Das Blog last night, but I'll say it again. If you have not seen Who Killed the Electric Car? run, don't walk, to your local video store and rent that movie!!





Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 15:15:18
HEY... where is Random?



And where has JD been?? I kinda miss her.

Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 15:17:30
Quote by TriSec:

Ah yes, here's more about the stimulus...



The retail sales report showed that general merchandise stores, which include department stores and discount stores such as Wal-Mart, saw sales rise by 1.2 percent, the best showing since a 2.1 percent rise in March 2007.




I'd call that food, clothing, fuel...







I only go to Wal-Mart to recycle my plastic bags and occasionally buy toiletries, I have never ever considered buying large ticket items there (furniture, appliances, or even clothes).

Cheers,

mfaye :heart:



Comment by wickedpam on 06/12/2008 15:18:11
Love mine! I have the Wii Fit too - love the Rythem boxing

Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 15:19:38
Quote by starling310:

I said it on Das Blog last night, but I'll say it again. If you have not seen Who Killed the Electric Car? run, don't walk, to your local video store and rent that movie!!





Heya Roomie,

I second that recommendation - it'll have you spittin' nails at Corporate America...

Cheers,

mfaye :P



Comment by BobR on 06/12/2008 15:20:48
Quote by Raine:

you know, that is kindof a big deal... When we first got started, we got little or nothing. Then in order to get it to show up, you had to type it in as one word...



This is a little exiting...


It's also a little exciting... :P

Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 15:22:01
Bailing a little early. I am doing some OT in the salt mine again. The things I do in order to live in New York.



Talk to y'all later.

Comment by BobR on 06/12/2008 15:22:15
Quote by Raine:

HEY... where is Random?



And where has JD been?? I kinda miss her.


And PatM only posted a couple days...

Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 15:22:20
Reality Shows - Isn't that what Steph's Dinner Party show was all about? :D

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 15:27:08
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

I said it on Das Blog last night, but I'll say it again. If you have not seen Who Killed the Electric Car? run, don't walk, to your local video store and rent that movie!!





Heya Roomie,

I second that recommendation - it'll have you spittin' nails at Corporate America...

Cheers,

mfaye :P





By the end ( you know what happens if you've seen it ) I was literally crying.

Poor little EV1.

Poor Peter Horton.

And, that Chelsea Sexton is cute, cute, cute.





Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 15:27:41
Quote by Raine:

HEY... where is Random?



And where has JD been?? I kinda miss her.




Random was pouting about 4F over at the SMS Live Blog... Shane-O doesn't know exactly why



Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 15:28:21
. . . Monday's still the weekend to meeee. . . <----- Billy Bragg

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 15:29:11
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

HEY... where is Random?



And where has JD been?? I kinda miss her.




Random was pouting about 4F over at the SMS Live Blog... Shane-O doesn't know exactly why





think he feels that he doesn't get enough attention. :shrug:

Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 15:29:13
"Rum for pain relief" - I LOVE IT! -- that's my excuse! - Pain :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 15:30:51
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

you know, that is kindof a big deal... When we first got started, we got little or nothing. Then in order to get it to show up, you had to type it in as one word...



This is a little exiting...


It's also a little exciting... :P
:nana:



Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 15:32:26
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

HEY... where is Random?



And where has JD been?? I kinda miss her.




Random was pouting about 4F over at the SMS Live Blog... Shane-O doesn't know exactly why





think he feels that he doesn't get enough attention. :shrug:
Generation "ME" - I love the 4F family. "Attention" or not.



Finding this place was like going to some extended family reunion - but instead of meeting someone and saying "OMG - you have Uncle Frank's chin" - the family here giggles when you say "BARK PARK!"



Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 15:32:49
Quote by starling310:

. . . Monday's still the weekend to meeee. . . <----- Billy Bragg




I saw Billy Bragg at an outdoor show in Oregon many years ago - at least i think I did :P

He was pumped up and very entertaining - if I am recalling correctly.

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 15:33:09
I'll chime in on "Who Killed the Electric Car", too.



Well worth your time. I just had to shake my head. I live four miles from work, and rarely go more than 30 miles at a clip. I think I could drive one.



Actually, what really infuriated me was the advertising....we can get people to buy anything except electric cars, I guess.









Comment by Scoopster on 06/12/2008 15:35:29
Abstaining from questions involving formal sovereignty and territorial governance is one thing. To hold the political branches have the power to switch the Constitution on or off at will is quite another. The former position reflects this Court’s recognition that certain matters requiring political judgments are best left to the political branches. The latter would permit a striking anomaly in our tripartite system of government, leading to a regime in which Congress and the President, not this Court, say "what the law is."




Well said, Justice Kennedy. You get today's FUCK YEAH! Award.

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 15:36:59
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

HEY... where is Random?



And where has JD been?? I kinda miss her.




Random was pouting about 4F over at the SMS Live Blog... Shane-O doesn't know exactly why





think he feels that he doesn't get enough attention. :shrug:
Generation "ME" - I love the 4F family. "Attention" or not.



Finding this place was like going to some extended family reunion - but instead of meeting someone and saying "OMG - you have Uncle Frank's chin" - the family here giggles when you say "BARK PARK!"







Bark Park!



And, in honor of my local hardware store: Shag Bark!



:hug:



Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 15:37:18
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

HEY... where is Random?



And where has JD been?? I kinda miss her.




Random was pouting about 4F over at the SMS Live Blog... Shane-O doesn't know exactly why





think he feels that he doesn't get enough attention. :shrug:
Generation "ME" - I love the 4F family. "Attention" or not.



Finding this place was like going to some extended family reunion - but instead of meeting someone and saying "OMG - you have Uncle Frank's chin" - the family here giggles when you say "BARK PARK!"





Random is a needy little cuss, but we love him all the same. I agree with you Shane-O - discovering this blog has saved my life. BTB, I am boycotting the SMS Live Blog until further notice - it is just too stinky of a bathroom for me :P

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 15:38:53
Quote by TriSec:

I'll chime in on "Who Killed the Electric Car", too.



Well worth your time. I just had to shake my head. I live four miles from work, and rarely go more than 30 miles at a clip. I think I could drive one.



Actually, what really infuriated me was the advertising....we can get people to buy anything except electric cars, I guess.











As Ed Begley said "The Electric Car isn't for everyone; it would only accomodate

90% of the population!"

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 15:39:23
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

HEY... where is Random?



And where has JD been?? I kinda miss her.




Random was pouting about 4F over at the SMS Live Blog... Shane-O doesn't know exactly why





think he feels that he doesn't get enough attention. :shrug:
Generation "ME" - I love the 4F family. "Attention" or not.



Finding this place was like going to some extended family reunion - but instead of meeting someone and saying "OMG - you have Uncle Frank's chin" - the family here giggles when you say "BARK PARK!"

We have great cocktails too!!!



Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 15:42:48
Quote by starling310:

Quote by TriSec:

I'll chime in on "Who Killed the Electric Car", too.



Well worth your time. I just had to shake my head. I live four miles from work, and rarely go more than 30 miles at a clip. I think I could drive one.



Actually, what really infuriated me was the advertising....we can get people to buy anything except electric cars, I guess.











As Ed Begley said "The Electric Car isn't for everyone; it would only accomodate

90% of the population!"
you know, I assumed that you knew when bobber siad we saw it, that meant he and I... :P





The thing about the movie was how one industry can systematically dismantle another.



It reminds me of things like when an AMAZING invention comes along that can change the world, and Company buys it becuase it threatens said company, takes the patent and hides it away.



After watching that movie, I promised that I would never buy a GM car again.



Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 15:42:58
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

HEY... where is Random?



And where has JD been?? I kinda miss her.




Random was pouting about 4F over at the SMS Live Blog... Shane-O doesn't know exactly why





think he feels that he doesn't get enough attention. :shrug:
Generation "ME" - I love the 4F family. "Attention" or not.



Finding this place was like going to some extended family reunion - but instead of meeting someone and saying "OMG - you have Uncle Frank's chin" - the family here giggles when you say "BARK PARK!"





Random is a needy little cuss, but we love him all the same. I agree with you Shane-O - discovering this blog has saved my life. BTB, I am boycotting the SMS Live Blog until further notice - it is just too stinky of a bathroom for me :P

Cheers,

mfaye
Yes - and Random - if you are lurking - I do love ALL 4F family members. Please do not take offense. I can have a sharp tounge at times...



While I don't always comment - I do ALWAYS read what everyone has to say.



Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 15:43:05
Erm, didn't Obama vote "yes" on that bankruptcy bill?



That still bothers me, but I'm willing to overlook it in favor of the whole package...





Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 15:43:15
I now pronounce today the first official "Fist jab a Hillary supporter Day!"



Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 15:44:31
Yes, he did, Tri.

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 15:45:44
The 2005 Bankruptcy Bill?

Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 15:46:15
Can that Amdro stuff deal with this????



http://lumiere.ens.fr/~alphapsy/blog/images/21701757_them_lg.jpg


Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 15:47:26
Quote by Raine:

The 2005 Bankruptcy Bill?


(btw, Click on the audicon... I embedded a link) I was trying to see if I could.

Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 16:18:23
Joe Biden also voted for the Bankruptcy Bill - nooooo!!!!

:cry: :rage:

Cheers,

mfaye



Ralphie Reed is an ultimate toolie tool :P



Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 16:25:08
Sorry bout the blog burp there guys...



Faye, dunno if you saw what I posted about Joe Biden regarding the bankruptcy bill, but I really think that is a big reason. A lot of constituents are employees of those companies there in Delaware.



But I wanted to clear it up that Obama Voted NO to the bill. Hillary Clinton was a no vote becuase that was when Bill was in the hospital with his heart issues.

Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 16:25:24
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

The 2005 Bankruptcy Bill?


(btw, Click on the audicon... I embedded a link) I was trying to see if I could.


Didn't work for me.

Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 16:30:17
Quote by Raine:

Sorry bout the blog burp there guys...



Faye, dunno if you saw what I posted about Joe Biden regarding the bankruptcy bill, but I really think that is a big reason. A lot of constituents are employees of those companies there in Delaware.



But I wanted to clear it up that Obama Voted NO to the bill. Hillary Clinton was a no vote becuase that was when Bill was in the hospital with his heart issues.




Raine,

I didn't see your post, but it makes sense given that a large percentage of corporations are incorporated in Delaware (they have very friendly corporation laws )

Cheers,

mfaye :P



Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 16:30:49
Quote by TriSec:

Can that Amdro stuff deal with this????



http://lumiere.ens.fr/~alphapsy/blog/images/21701757_them_lg.jpg


How about the giant grasshoppers from Beginning of the End?

Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 16:32:09
Quote by Raine:

Sorry bout the blog burp there guys...



Faye, dunno if you saw what I posted about Joe Biden regarding the bankruptcy bill, but I really think that is a big reason. A lot of constituents are employees of those companies there in Delaware.



But I wanted to clear it up that Obama Voted NO to the bill. Hillary Clinton was a no vote becuase that was when Bill was in the hospital with his heart issues.
Deleware being the incorporation-friendly state (prior to Nevada's attempt to take that mantle) - and the associated votes Biden had to cast as such regarding the U.S. economy does inhibit his chance for a VP nod. However, on foreign policy - Biden has been so correct. Sec of State - he could do great, great work in that position.



Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 16:32:53
Raine, last night at work, we were doing the Liberty game in Atlanta and they showed some of the scenery including the Fox theater which I guess was the one you were talking about the other night.

Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 16:36:05
The best thing that Biden said was his comment about Rudy;



"Everything he says is a noun and a verb and 9-11."

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 16:39:16
I totally agree with you Shane-O. I am not excusing the vote, it pissed me off, but I have to say I understood the reasoning behind it.



Liv, when you click on that audicon, a popup of Roll call doesn't happen? It is a link to the senate vote for the 2005 Bankruptcy bill.







Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 16:40:59
Quote by Raine:





Liv, when you click on that audicon, a popup of Roll call doesn't happen? It is a link to the senate vote for the 2005 Bankruptcy bill.







Negative, it just plays the audicon. Does it matter which browser? I am on FIrefox.

Comment by BobR on 06/12/2008 16:46:56
Quote by livingonli:



Negative, it just plays the audicon. Does it matter which browser? I am on FIrefox.


Seems like it only works on Safari, not IE or FireFox...

Comment by velveeta jones on 06/12/2008 16:48:08
Afternoon all! I'm OFF WORK today!



And I did hear most of the SMS! Woot!! Was THRILLED to hear MNRN on the telephone! Way ta go!



I've been out in the yard working, now planning on watching the Simpsons Movie!



:donut:

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 16:48:39
Quote by TriSec:

Can that Amdro stuff deal with this????



http://lumiere.ens.fr/~alphapsy/blog/images/21701757_them_lg.jpg






Of course! You just need the 55 gallon drum size and the plane to air drop it from.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 16:51:54
BobR about your amp comment: like the mighty Fender Twin Reverb. King of amps



Not the evil Cyber Twin.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 16:55:23
BTW I'm trying to figure out if I have pinkeye, again.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/12/2008 17:08:05
Quote by velveeta jones:

Afternoon all! I'm OFF WORK today!



And I did hear most of the SMS! Woot!! Was THRILLED to hear MNRN on the telephone! Way ta go!



I've been out in the yard working, now planning on watching the Simpsons Movie!



:donut:






Spider Pig, Spider Pig does whatever a Spider Pig does.....



Comment by wickedpam on 06/12/2008 17:11:56
Quote by Mondobubba:

BTW I'm trying to figure out if I have pinkeye, again.






Eeek - had that once thanks to a bad sinus infection - that was enough!



Comment by Random on 06/12/2008 17:15:16
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Afternoon all! I'm OFF WORK today!



And I did hear most of the SMS! Woot!! Was THRILLED to hear MNRN on the telephone! Way ta go!



I've been out in the yard working, now planning on watching the Simpsons Movie!



:donut:






Spider Pig, Spider Pig does whatever a Spider Pig does.....



ah...fond memories...



Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 17:15:53
IFC has Rashomon at 1:30.

Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 17:20:25
Marge: But you liked Rashomon.

Homer: That's not how I remember it.

Comment by wickedpam on 06/12/2008 17:25:44
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Afternoon all! I'm OFF WORK today!



And I did hear most of the SMS! Woot!! Was THRILLED to hear MNRN on the telephone! Way ta go!



I've been out in the yard working, now planning on watching the Simpsons Movie!



:donut:






Spider Pig, Spider Pig does whatever a Spider Pig does.....



ah...fond memories...





that song still makes me laugh.



Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 17:42:58
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Afternoon all! I'm OFF WORK today!



And I did hear most of the SMS! Woot!! Was THRILLED to hear MNRN on the telephone! Way ta go!



I've been out in the yard working, now planning on watching the Simpsons Movie!



:donut:






Spider Pig, Spider Pig does whatever a Spider Pig does.....



ah...fond memories...





that song still makes me laugh.



He's not Spider-Pig any more, he's Harry Plopper.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 17:49:34
Quote by Mondobubba:

BTW I'm trying to figure out if I have pinkeye, again.
Big, giant (sorry for the redundancy) healing vibes to Mr. Mondo!



And to all - as this was a big 4F caller morning - I'd be happy to put up any and all 4F members' calls. Taking requests... (as always )



Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 18:10:03
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Mondobubba:

BTW I'm trying to figure out if I have pinkeye, again.
Big, giant (sorry for the redundancy) healing vibes to Mr. Mondo!







I'll be going to the doctor tomorrow. If I have pinkeye, I will get ointment for my eye!

Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 18:12:03
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Mondobubba:

BTW I'm trying to figure out if I have pinkeye, again.
Big, giant (sorry for the redundancy) healing vibes to Mr. Mondo!







I'll be going to the doctor tomorrow. If I have pinkeye, I will get ointment for my eye!
Yeah. Ointment will probably work better than "vibes"



Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 18:14:37
Watching "Hairspray" (musical). Sorry Wilbur Turnblad will always be Jerry Stiller. Edna Turnblad will alway be Divine. Lastly Tracy Turnblad will always be Ricki Lake.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 18:17:45
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Mondobubba:

BTW I'm trying to figure out if I have pinkeye, again.
Big, giant (sorry for the redundancy) healing vibes to Mr. Mondo!







I'll be going to the doctor tomorrow. If I have pinkeye, I will get ointment for my eye!
Yeah. Ointment will probably work better than "vibes"





Shane-O you don't know about big ointment! Sorry. It is long standing blog obsession, one of the SMS show PSA about getting something in your eye, etc.



Livin, you are our blog archivist, splain!

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 18:30:05
Comment by wickedpam on 06/12/2008 18:31:21
Quote by Mondobubba:

Watching "Hairspray" (musical). Sorry Wilbur Turnblad will always be Jerry Stiller. Edna Turnblad will alway be Divine. Lastly Tracy Turnblad will always be Ricki Lake.






Same here - but it was a cute movie musical nonetheless



Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 18:43:11
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Mondobubba:

BTW I'm trying to figure out if I have pinkeye, again.
Big, giant (sorry for the redundancy) healing vibes to Mr. Mondo!







I'll be going to the doctor tomorrow. If I have pinkeye, I will get ointment for my eye!
Yeah. Ointment will probably work better than "vibes"





Shane-O you don't know about big ointment! Sorry. It is long standing blog obsession, one of the SMS show PSA about getting something in your eye, etc.



Livin, you are our blog archivist, splain!


Going back to the Air America Place days those of us who listened to the show via the show stream would frequently make fun of the PSA's that aired during the commercial breaks. One of the PSA's warned of the danger of putting poison ivy next to one's eye. This turned into a running gag about the power of Big Ointment as being the sponsor of the PSA. This also led to some of us saying that other PSA's were in the power of Big (fill in the blank). If mgmonklewis was on this blog, he could tell you many of the tales, especially since there is no archive of the old Air America Place blog for me to look up the old bits.



That's the short version and just remember Rum is for dancing. Rum is for fun.

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 19:02:22
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Mondobubba:

BTW I'm trying to figure out if I have pinkeye, again.
Big, giant (sorry for the redundancy) healing vibes to Mr. Mondo!



And to all - as this was a big 4F caller morning - I'd be happy to put up any and all 4F members' calls. Taking requests... (as always )

for everyone!!!



Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 19:04:08
Quote by Mondobubba:

Happy Loving Day.
So far we have to go! But yes! happy day!



Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 19:04:23
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Mondobubba:

BTW I'm trying to figure out if I have pinkeye, again.
Big, giant (sorry for the redundancy) healing vibes to Mr. Mondo!







I'll be going to the doctor tomorrow. If I have pinkeye, I will get ointment for my eye!
Yeah. Ointment will probably work better than "vibes"





Shane-O you don't know about big ointment! Sorry. It is long standing blog obsession, one of the SMS show PSA about getting something in your eye, etc.



Livin, you are our blog archivist, splain!


Going back to the Air America Place days those of us who listened to the show via the show stream would frequently make fun of the PSA's that aired during the commercial breaks. One of the PSA's warned of the danger of putting poison ivy next to one's eye. This turned into a running gag about the power of Big Ointment as being the sponsor of the PSA. This also led to some of us saying that other PSA's were in the power of Big (fill in the blank). If mgmonklewis was on this blog, he could tell you many of the tales, especially since there is no archive of the old Air America Place blog for me to look up the old bits.



That's the short version and just remember Rum is for dancing. Rum is for fun.


Ahhh - my relative Newbie status caught up with me there.



And remember - rum is also for "pain."



Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 19:05:21
I have first-hand experience in getting poison ivy near one's eye...



Not the actual leaf, mind you, but something actually far more dangerous.



Don't Burn Poison Ivy. Please trust Boy Scout Troop 61 on this.





Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 19:05:46
NO AAR Archives?!?!?!?!





That is very, very sad.

Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 19:07:50
Quote by Mondobubba:

Happy Loving Day.




Back atcha Mondo,

Hope you don't have the dreaded "pink eye" - in any case feel better, ya hear?

Cheers,

mfaye :P



Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 19:10:53
Quote by TriSec:

I have first-hand experience in getting poison ivy near one's eye...



Not the actual leaf, mind you, but something actually far more dangerous.



Don't Burn Poison Ivy. Please trust Boy Scout Troop 61 on this.









ehhhhhhhwwwwww!

Comment by velveeta jones on 06/12/2008 19:17:52
Quote by Mondobubba:

Watching "Hairspray" (musical). Sorry Wilbur Turnblad will always be Jerry Stiller. Edna Turnblad will alway be Divine. Lastly Tracy Turnblad will always be Ricki Lake.


Simpsons was DELICIOUS. Best laughs were: when the drunks in Moes ran out of Moes into church, while the Church people ran out of the Church into Moes and, spilled coffee at the AA meeting turning into a fist fight. Two things that hit close to home, I suppose!



:rofl:



As for Hairspray the musical, I refuse to watch it. Divine is the ONLY Edna. And John Travolta belongs to a cult that believes gay people can be changed (by paying the cult lots of money and undergoing their "therapy"). :puke:



I frankly don't understand why he is not considered fair game since he seems to outwardly not disapprove of gays.

:rage:

Comment by BobR on 06/12/2008 19:23:49
Quote by livingonli:



Going back to the Air America Place days those of us who listened to the show via the show stream would frequently make fun of the PSA's that aired during the commercial breaks. One of the PSA's warned of the danger of putting poison ivy next to one's eye. This turned into a running gag about the power of Big Ointment as being the sponsor of the PSA. This also led to some of us saying that other PSA's were in the power of Big (fill in the blank). If mgmonklewis was on this blog, he could tell you many of the tales, especially since there is no archive of the old Air America Place blog for me to look up the old bits.



That's the short version and just remember Rum is for dancing. Rum is for fun.


That was the short version?









:rofl:

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 19:28:03
OK, I am looking for a direct link, but on CNN this afternoon, John McCain said "If you want government run healthcare go to Canada"



Hmmm.... kinda fits with a let them eat cake mentality, still doesn't it?







Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 19:41:04
Quote by Raine:

OK, I am looking for a direct link, but on CNN this afternoon, John McCain said "If you want government run healthcare go to Canada"



Hmmm.... kinda fits with a let them eat cake mentality, still doesn't it?







I guess he isn't aware that some Americans already go to Canada for cheap drugs to they are part-way there.

Comment by Scoopster on 06/12/2008 19:44:43
Whoooooooaaaaaaaa...



The depths of the Bush Administration have just gotten depthier.

Comment by Scoopster on 06/12/2008 19:48:33
Barack Obama's Birth Certificate...

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate_thumb.jpg


John McCain's Birth Certificate...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/2572961469_3d98d04db6.jpg?v=0


Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 19:54:17
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

OK, I am looking for a direct link, but on CNN this afternoon, John McCain said "If you want government run healthcare go to Canada"



Hmmm.... kinda fits with a let them eat cake mentality, still doesn't it?







I guess he isn't aware that some Americans already go to Canada for cheap drugs to they are part-way there.
HE said this in New Hampshire. he was giving a speech in Nashua, around 130... I am waiting for a youtube to show up of this one.







Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 19:56:40
Scoop!

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 20:01:20
Heya Scoop, tell me... Regarding Rezko, he was convicted, but has not been sentenced yet, right?



If this is true, then why in god's name would his attorney allow him to say something like that?



The whole thing smells like rotten fish.

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 20:04:43
People at the top of :star:ling's sh*t list:

Those that leave their dogs in the car, on a 90 degree day, without cracking a FRIGGIN' WINDOW!!!



bastids.



Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 20:09:13
Quote by starling310:

People at the top of :star:ling's sh*t list:

Those that leave their dogs in the car, on a 90 degree day, without cracking a FRIGGIN' WINDOW!!!



bastids.





I was at an airshow once when a dog was discovered in the back of a station wagon...



They made one announcement along the lines of "If this is your car, you have five minutes to get to the show tent or we're breaking your windows to get him out..."



Comment by Scoopster on 06/12/2008 20:09:15
Quote by Raine:

Heya Scoop, tell me... Regarding Rezko, he was convicted, but has not been sentenced yet, right?



If this is true, then why in god's name would his attorney allow him to say something like that?



The whole thing smells like rotten fish.


No idea.. Seems like the kind of thing he could've used for a plea bargain.. you know, giving up people in the Chicago US Atty's Office and all..

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 20:09:54
Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

OK, I am looking for a direct link, but on CNN this afternoon, John McCain said "If you want government run healthcare go to Canada"



Hmmm.... kinda fits with a let them eat cake mentality, still doesn't it?







I guess he isn't aware that some Americans already go to Canada for cheap drugs to they are part-way there.
HE said this in New Hampshire. he was giving a speech in Nashua, around 130... I am waiting for a youtube to show up of this one.





Psst... BTW....





We already have government run healthcare... It's is called medicare and medicaid.



McCain should know this, he is eligible medicare. Will canada take senior citizens???



Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 20:10:27


Quote by Mondobubba:

Happy Loving Day.




BTB, Mondo, thanks for the reminder about Loving v. Virginia - It inspired me to work on a post for my blog, noting that if Hawaii had had a law similar to Virginia's - the Obamas would not have been able to marry and perhaps Barack Jr. might not have been born :(

Thanks mucho.

mfaye





Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 20:10:41
Quote by Mondobubba:

Happy Loving Day.




Oooops, sorry I didn't mean to post this comment twice :P

Cheers,

mfaye





Comment by TriSec on 06/12/2008 20:11:23
Quote by Raine:

OK, I am looking for a direct link, but on CNN this afternoon, John McCain said "If you want government run healthcare go to Canada"







I had a dear friend in Liverpool (NS) that had not one, but two liver and kidney transplants up in Halifax. They gave him 5 more years of decent life (although he is now deceased.)



The family didn't have the coverage denied or were forced to sell their house to pay for it.







Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 20:12:05
Quote by starling310:

People at the top of :star:ling's sh*t list:

Those that leave their dogs in the car, on a 90 degree day, without cracking a FRIGGIN' WINDOW!!!



bastids.

You can call the police that is animal cruelty.



Comment by Scoopster on 06/12/2008 20:13:57
OK I'm headin' home - after I stop off and get some supplies. :peace:

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 20:13:57
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

People at the top of :star:ling's sh*t list:

Those that leave their dogs in the car, on a 90 degree day, without cracking a FRIGGIN' WINDOW!!!



bastids.

You can call the police that is animal cruelty.





Seriously!? Dang...I should've gotten the license plate. I just thought it was mean. I didn't know it was actually against the law.



Comment by velveeta jones on 06/12/2008 20:19:37
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

People at the top of :star:ling's sh*t list:

Those that leave their dogs in the car, on a 90 degree day, without cracking a FRIGGIN' WINDOW!!!



bastids.

You can call the police that is animal cruelty.



Call the police and tell them what's happening and where you are and that you are about to break the window.

Then break the fucking window and try to find the dog a GOOD home.



:rage:

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 20:20:04
Here you go for future reference:

Connecticut consolidated animal cruelty law.
.§ 53-247. Cruelty to animals. Fighting animals. Intentional killing of police animals or dogs in volunteer canine search and rescue teams





(a) Any person who overdrives, drives when overloaded, overworks, tortures, deprives of necessary sustenance, mutilates or cruelly beats or kills or unjustifiably injures any animal, or who, having impounded or confined any animal, fails to give such animal proper care or neglects to cage or restrain any such animal from doing injury to itself or to another animal or fails to supply any such animal with wholesome air, food and water, or unjustifiably administers any poisonous or noxious drug or substance to any domestic animal or unjustifiably exposes any such drug or substance, with intent that the same shall be taken by an animal, or causes it to be done, or, having charge or custody of any animal, inflicts cruelty upon it or fails to provide it with proper food, drink or protection from the weather or abandons it or carries it or causes it to be carried in a cruel manner, or fights with or baits, harasses or worries any animal for the purpose of making it perform for amusement, diversion or exhibition, shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than one year or both.


Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 20:21:56
Thanks Raine...next time, I will take action. . .



sorry i didn't know this time.





Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 20:23:32
Quote by starling310:

Thanks Raine...next time, I will take action. . .



sorry i didn't know this time.



you already showed more caring than most people ... I think the karma that we are all sending will make it alright.



Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 20:43:48
WHA?!?!?!?!?! Atlanta Owns the London Mercantile exchange?!?!?! You HAVE to be effing kidding me!!!!

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 21:01:15
Wow. The DNC is moving it's operations to CHICAGO.



In a major shakeup at the Democratic National Committee -- and a departure from tradition -- large parts of the committee's operations are relocating to Chicago to be fully integrated with the Obama campaign.



The DNC's political department, housed in Washington, D.C., will be dramatically rebuilt, with staffers offered a choice of moving to Chicago, joining state operations, or staying in Washington, DNC spokeswoman Karen Finney said.



But the power will clearly be shifting to a centralized Chicago hub.



The DNC's key role in coordinating political operations with state parties is expected to largely be taken over and overseen by Obama's senior staff in Chicago, state party officials said.

========================================================





Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 21:03:55
Quote by starling310:

People at the top of :star:ling's sh*t list:

Those that leave their dogs in the car, on a 90 degree day, without cracking a FRIGGIN' WINDOW!!!



bastids.





Ohh Star they are right up there on the Mondo list of right bastards. They are the same kind of people who smoke, with the windows rolled and their kids in the back seat.



:scans more: McCain vs Obama birth certificates. Scoop, brilliant.

Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 21:42:17
Can I go home now?

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 22:04:28
The chicken is sitting in it's Dry Rub, jamaican style..... next up Jalepeno poppers...



Mondo -- if I don't touch base tonite, I will manana. ;)

Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 22:07:16
Quote by Raine:

The chicken is sitting in it's Dry Rub, jamaican style..... next up Jalepeno poppers...



Mondo -- if I don't touch base tonite, I will manana. ;)




Oh gosh -- if only I could get to Atlanta before dinner... :drool:



Comment by BobR on 06/12/2008 22:11:40
Quote by Raine:

The chicken is sitting in it's Dry Rub, jamaican style..... next up Jalepeno poppers...



Mondo -- if I don't touch base tonite, I will manana. ;)


That would be Raine's homemaid recipe dry rub, and homemaid poppers.



I feel like royalty!



And Mondo - I'm getting tired of hearing her phone ring. Give it a rest - she's busy!

Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 22:13:55
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Raine:

The chicken is sitting in it's Dry Rub, jamaican style..... next up Jalepeno poppers...



Mondo -- if I don't touch base tonite, I will manana. ;)


That would be Raine's homemaid recipe dry rub, and homemaid poppers.



I feel like royalty!



And Mondo - I'm getting tired of hearing her phone ring. Give it a rest - she's busy!




Uh-oh - Raine-O did you catch the "typo" -- homemaid. Honeymoon is over kids... :rofl:

Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 22:18:23
News flash Steph booked on Larry King Live tonight



Sing it Larry: "You musta been a beautiful baby, you musta been a beautiful gal..."

Comment by Random on 06/12/2008 22:26:57
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

HEY... where is Random?



And where has JD been?? I kinda miss her.




Random was pouting about 4F over at the SMS Live Blog... Shane-O doesn't know exactly why





think he feels that he doesn't get enough attention. :shrug:
Generation "ME" - I love the 4F family. "Attention" or not.







I feel a need to now defend myself...



My comments in the live blog were meant as psuedo-jokes about being at work and not being able to get onto 4F.

I'm sorry if i hurt any feelings on this blog.

Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 22:37:23
Quote by Random:



I feel a need to now defend myself...



My comments in the live blog were meant as psuedo-jokes about being at work and not being able to get onto 4F.

I'm sorry if i hurt any feelings on this blog.




Random - please read my comment a little further up...



With an awkward man-hug

Comment by Random on 06/12/2008 22:41:03
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:



I feel a need to now defend myself...



My comments in the live blog were meant as psuedo-jokes about being at work and not being able to get onto 4F.

I'm sorry if i hurt any feelings on this blog.




Random - please read my comment a little further up...



With an awkward man-hug


I did.



I just want to make sure that I found nothing wrong with my home here.

I just trying to make a bad joke...



Comment by Shane-O on 06/12/2008 22:54:30
Quote by Random:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:



I feel a need to now defend myself...



My comments in the live blog were meant as psuedo-jokes about being at work and not being able to get onto 4F.

I'm sorry if i hurt any feelings on this blog.




Random - please read my comment a little further up...



With an awkward man-hug


I did.



I just want to make sure that I found nothing wrong with my home here.

I just trying to make a bad joke...



Shane-O will learn Random's sense of humor in time. :)

Comment by Random on 06/12/2008 23:02:42
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:



I feel a need to now defend myself...



My comments in the live blog were meant as psuedo-jokes about being at work and not being able to get onto 4F.

I'm sorry if i hurt any feelings on this blog.




Random - please read my comment a little further up...



With an awkward man-hug


I did.



I just want to make sure that I found nothing wrong with my home here.

I just trying to make a bad joke...



Shane-O will learn Random's sense of humor in time. :)


A lil tip. Random is rarely Serious, and almost constantly full of B.S.

Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 23:16:19
Quote by Shane-O:

News flash Steph booked on Larry King Live tonight



Sing it Larry: "You musta been a beautiful baby, you musta been a beautiful gal..."


:rofl:







Comment by Raine on 06/12/2008 23:19:08
The scene is set... The grill is brewing, the chicken is rubbed... the poppers have been stuffed, the saffrom rice is cooking... the plantains are prepped....:drool:



OH! Caprinia's!



:D







Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 23:20:44
Internets were down. :thud:





As tragic and horrible as tornadoes are, I still find this amusing; the wind erosion research building at KSU was destroyed by a tornado today. Okay I know it is wrong, but its wind erosion building!

Comment by m-hadley on 06/12/2008 23:31:44
Quote by Raine:

The scene is set... The grill is brewing, the chicken is rubbed... the poppers have been stuffed, the saffrom rice is cooking... the plantains are prepped....:drool:



OH! Caprinia's!



:D









Ummmm Raine,

Can I come over??? Sounds yummy :P

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by Mondobubba on 06/12/2008 23:39:02
Awwww I'm getting kitty love. Cassie is rubbing on her daddy and purring.

Comment by Random on 06/12/2008 23:43:35
Quote by Mondobubba:

Awwww I'm getting kitty love. Cassie is rubbing on her daddy and purring.


ahhh cute

Comment by starling310 on 06/12/2008 23:45:32
Faye...you can come here for dinner. I have fruit roll ups and sun tea!

Comment by livingonli on 06/12/2008 23:53:23
Quote by Mondobubba:

Awwww I'm getting kitty love. Cassie is rubbing on her daddy and purring.


Awww. What a kittie.

Comment by livingonli on 06/13/2008 00:01:29
Isn't Rio giving kittie love?

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/13/2008 00:02:33
"Obama's baby mamma." That Fox News, klassy!

Comment by Random on 06/13/2008 00:03:20
Wow...just...uh wow...



So...has anyone heard just how nuts Bobby "Potential McCain VP" Jindal is?

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/13/2008 00:08:12
Quote by livingonli:

Isn't Rio giving kittie love?






Naaw, he is busy having a huge bath.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/13/2008 00:12:16
Quote by Random:

Wow...just...uh wow...



So...has anyone heard just how nuts Bobby "Potential McCain VP" Jindal is?






Really do tell? Crazy enough to sink Grandpa? if so let him sign up!



BTW Cindy Mcain is really scary looking.

Comment by livingonli on 06/13/2008 00:13:47
Quote by Mondobubba:

"Obama's baby mamma." That Fox News, klassy!


I think comfort pundit Michelle Malkin would be what Malcolm X termed a "House Negro".

Comment by Random on 06/13/2008 00:15:14
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Wow...just...uh wow...



So...has anyone heard just how nuts Bobby "Potential McCain VP" Jindal is?






Really do tell? Crazy enough to sink Grandpa? if so let him sign up!



BTW Cindy Mcain is really scary looking.




Well, taking with a grain of salt, learned about it from Wonkette.

But apparently Jindal is one of those freaky Christian types (like...oh say...That Passion guy, who hates the jews...can't remember his name). Apparently he had a girlfriend in...college or something, not important, and at some point, she goes a lil nutty, and he tries to exoricise her.



Comment by Random on 06/13/2008 00:21:08
I'd like to clarify, that apparently they weren't dating, they were "just friends" and no "sex" occured because they were freaky christian types.

Comment by Random on 06/13/2008 00:23:45
Ha...I have discovered what is beneath that black censor box on Barack's Birth Certificate...



http://frontalot.untimelydeath.com/idiocy/obama_birthcert_UNCENSORED!.png


Comment by livingonli on 06/13/2008 00:25:16
Quote by Random:

I'd like to clarify, that apparently they weren't dating, they were "just friends" and no "sex" occured because they were freaky christian types.


Like people who take abstinence-only sex ed class somehow think that anal sex doesn't count.

Comment by velveeta jones on 06/13/2008 00:25:48
Just back from a meeting and dinner.



Your dinner sound delish Raine and Bob!



As for missing 4Fers, yes, were is our dear friend JD as well as grumpymann? Enquiring minds need to know........

Comment by Random on 06/13/2008 00:26:34
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

I'd like to clarify, that apparently they weren't dating, they were "just friends" and no "sex" occured because they were freaky christian types.


Like people who take abstinence-only sex ed class somehow think that anal sex doesn't count.


Just reading what i did...was just really kind of creepy about Bobby "The Exorcist" Jindal.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/13/2008 00:27:41
Quote by Random:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Random:

Wow...just...uh wow...



So...has anyone heard just how nuts Bobby "Potential McCain VP" Jindal is?






Really do tell? Crazy enough to sink Grandpa? if so let him sign up!



BTW Cindy Mcain is really scary looking.




Well, taking with a grain of salt, learned about it from Wonkette.

But apparently Jindal is one of those freaky Christian types (like...oh say...That Passion guy, who hates the jews...can't remember his name). Apparently he had a girlfriend in...college or something, not important, and at some point, she goes a lil nutty, and he tries to exoricise her.





Thats pretty nuts. I might need to check out the Wonkette.

Comment by livingonli on 06/13/2008 00:30:51
Quote by Random:

I'd like to clarify, that apparently they weren't dating, they were "just friends" and no "sex" occured because they were freaky christian types.


Sounds like "Tubular Bells' is his idea of romantic music.

Comment by m-hadley on 06/13/2008 00:31:15
Quote by starling310:

Faye...you can come here for dinner. I have fruit roll ups and sun tea!




Starling,

I'll be there in about 20 hours with both of my doggies , save a fruit roll up for me - Just kidding Tonite dinner was two weenies with cheese and avacado (nuked - the weenies and the cheese - not the avacado). Ya'll enjoy your dinners now, ya hear :airhump:

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/13/2008 00:31:50
Comment by velveeta jones on 06/13/2008 00:34:14
Ug, that reminds me, this young girl came to my work place the other day, wearing a shirt that said "I've pledged my word, I won't go past third"



:wacko:



Um, TMI? Yes, I'd say so!!

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/13/2008 00:47:03
Quote by velveeta jones:

Ug, that reminds me, this young girl came to my work place the other day, wearing a shirt that said "I've pledged my word, I won't go past third"



:wacko:



Um, TMI? Yes, I'd say so!!




Why do people think it is appropriate to share such information with the entire world? It is another example of klassy with a K.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/13/2008 00:48:35
Furthermore, why is the girl proudly proclaiming she will do anything except have actual intercourse? Seems kinda slutty to me.

Comment by velveeta jones on 06/13/2008 00:53:05
Quote by Mondobubba:

Furthermore, why is the girl proudly proclaiming she will do anything except have actual intercourse? Seems kinda slutty to me.




Ya think???



That's all I could think of for the next hour!!!!



:rofl:

Comment by Shane-O on 06/13/2008 00:53:24
Quote by Mondobubba:

Furthermore, why is the girl proudly proclaiming she will do anything except have actual intercourse? Seems kinda slutty to me.




eh - it's pure outward denial for her parents' sake. She's swingin' for the fences, I'd bet...



Comment by livingonli on 06/13/2008 00:54:55
Quote by Mondobubba:

Furthermore, why is the girl proudly proclaiming she will do anything except have actual intercourse? Seems kinda slutty to me.


Further proof that abstinence education is a crock. They expect kids to keep it wrapped until they get married denying basic biology especially as people tend to marry later. And these dimwits don't understand that sex is more than just vaginal intercourse. They can't reconcile the contradictions of the message. It's no better than the old double standard when women were supposed to be virgins on their wedding night but there was no such expectation of guys.

Comment by Random on 06/13/2008 00:58:30


So, let us create a pettion to get McCain to Get Jindal as VP.

Comment by TriSec on 06/13/2008 01:03:53
Evening, folks!



Sox just won....waiting for the NBA tipoff...



Notes from the bike trail: I saw an Oriole hanging out by the river, then promptly almost took out a young lass jogging obliviously. (wrong side of a blind curve)



Dinner tonight...chicken marinated in a weird mix of soy, Ah-So, and sugar, pan-seared in a wok with chop suey vegetables (I cheated, from the can) over rice with crunchy noodles...







Comment by TriSec on 06/13/2008 01:04:39
Abstinence education works as well as alcohol deprivation. When they hit sixteen, nobody knows anything about either, so experiment and binge...





Comment by Random on 06/13/2008 01:09:10
Quote by Random:



So, let us create a pettion to get McCain to Get Jindal as VP.


Let us learn to spell: petition

Comment by Random on 06/13/2008 01:12:40
Pat just called Obama Exotic...

I'm chaning my bet to that Pat is the first to say the N word on the air.

Comment by livingonli on 06/13/2008 01:20:36
Quote by Random:



So, let us create a pettion to get McCain to Get Jindal as VP.


Not to mention a Bob Barr-Ron Paul ticket to further split the right vote.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/13/2008 01:24:44
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Furthermore, why is the girl proudly proclaiming she will do anything except have actual intercourse? Seems kinda slutty to me.




Ya think???



That's all I could think of for the next hour!!!!



:rofl:
.





Great minds and such, Velveeta.

Comment by Random on 06/13/2008 01:25:12
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:



So, let us create a pettion to get McCain to Get Jindal as VP.


Not to mention a Bob Barr-Ron Paul ticket to further split the right vote.


....I just...my brain loves that idea so much, it stopped.

Comment by TriSec on 06/13/2008 01:25:25
And the C's are stinking up the joint...



Comment by velveeta jones on 06/13/2008 01:26:03
Beware any newbie's here! :lol:



McCain urges his peeps to invade blogs and forums.



From his website:



Help spread the word about John McCain on news and blog sites. Your efforts to help get the message out about John McCain's policies and plan for the future is one of the most valuable things you can do for this campaign. You know why John McCain should be the next President of the United States and we need you to tell others why.


Comment by Random on 06/13/2008 01:27:16
Quote by velveeta jones:

Beware any newbie's here! :lol:



McCain urges his peeps to invade blogs and forums.



From his website:



Help spread the word about John McCain on news and blog sites. Your efforts to help get the message out about John McCain's policies and plan for the future is one of the most valuable things you can do for this campaign. You know why John McCain should be the next President of the United States and we need you to tell others why.


um...yeah...uh...



*hits panic button*



Comment by TriSec on 06/13/2008 01:32:50
Don't worry Velveeta, we've got one of these.

Comment by velveeta jones on 06/13/2008 01:36:58
Don't you HATE it when this happens.



A STALKER filmed himself masturbating and sent it to his victim's mobile phone while she was at a police station making a complaint about him.




Sending this to Steph! :lol:

Comment by livingonli on 06/13/2008 01:39:15
Quote by Random:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Beware any newbie's here! :lol:



McCain urges his peeps to invade blogs and forums.



From his website:



Help spread the word about John McCain on news and blog sites. Your efforts to help get the message out about John McCain's policies and plan for the future is one of the most valuable things you can do for this campaign. You know why John McCain should be the next President of the United States and we need you to tell others why.


um...yeah...uh...



*hits panic button*



I smell a new troll invasion on the SMS live blog and I guess Adela will now have a new purpose.

Comment by Random on 06/13/2008 01:43:37
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Beware any newbie's here! :lol:



McCain urges his peeps to invade blogs and forums.



From his website:



Help spread the word about John McCain on news and blog sites. Your efforts to help get the message out about John McCain's policies and plan for the future is one of the most valuable things you can do for this campaign. You know why John McCain should be the next President of the United States and we need you to tell others why.


um...yeah...uh...



*hits panic button*



I smell a new troll invasion on the SMS live blog and I guess Adela will now have a new purpose.


you know how to combat that?

Pretend to be them and then fight over who is the reall troll.

Comment by Mondobubba on 06/13/2008 01:54:53
:Mr Slave: Jesus Christ! Why does it have to be so hard to close a friggin' account for a service these days? The mook I was talking to denied he was trying to retain my membership. I could tell by all the friggin questions he was asking and all chummy comments to build rapport with me.



Me: Close the account.

Mook: Is there particular reason you want to close your account with XXXXXX tonight?

Me: No I just want to close it.

Mook: Was there feature you didn't like?

Me: Close.The.Account.

Mook: You do realize you are paid in full until the end of the month?

Me: Yes. Close the account. Stop trying to retain my membership.

Mook: I'm not trying to retain your account.

Me: Yes you are. CLOSE THE ACCOUNT.



And so on. And end scene!



Comment by BobR on 06/13/2008 02:04:15
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/13/2008 02:11:42






Coolio! The sea dragons got busy. :airhump:



In an unrelated not, why am I watching this thing on PBS about Gettysburg? It is some sort of post Ken Burnsian thing with letters from actually letters from vet of the battle and : shudder: re-enactors:

Comment by Raine on 06/13/2008 02:16:22
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by starling310:

Faye...you can come here for dinner. I have fruit roll ups and sun tea!




Starling,

I'll be there in about 20 hours with both of my doggies , save a fruit roll up for me - Just kidding Tonite dinner was two weenies with cheese and avacado (nuked - the weenies and the cheese - not the avacado). Ya'll enjoy your dinners now, ya hear :airhump:

Cheers,

mfaye
WE have open housing at casa de Bob and Raine until august 12. Then anytime AFTER the third (or thereabouts) week of September. I want t keep the schedule as far and open as I can for 'sister loves' little boy and his arrival on this planet Earth.



I have said it before and I Will say it again... Come and visit.

Sorry to put restrictions , but my sister comes first. She is due after September begins, and I want to be available in case it comes early.







Comment by Raine on 06/13/2008 02:22:28
Quote by velveeta jones:

Beware any newbie's here! :lol:



McCain urges his peeps to invade blogs and forums.



From his website:



Help spread the word about John McCain on news and blog sites. Your efforts to help get the message out about John McCain's policies and plan for the future is one of the most valuable things you can do for this campaign. You know why John McCain should be the next President of the United States and we need you to tell others why.
We should be concerned... The Four Freedoms are Younger than John McCain.



Comment by livingonli on 06/13/2008 03:05:08
Quote by Raine:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Beware any newbie's here! :lol:



McCain urges his peeps to invade blogs and forums.



From his website:



Help spread the word about John McCain on news and blog sites. Your efforts to help get the message out about John McCain's policies and plan for the future is one of the most valuable things you can do for this campaign. You know why John McCain should be the next President of the United States and we need you to tell others why.
We should be concerned... The Four Freedoms are Younger than John McCain.



John McCain still wasn't over that whole thing with the Maine yet And then he wanted to chase the Kaiser.

Comment by MMB on 06/13/2008 03:27:04
I noticed the Gettysburg thing. My brother just got back from a vacation up in that area. He went to the battlefield and said it was a very emotional place. A lot of men died on that land both south and yankees. He sent me a post card of a painting of Gen. R.E. Lee on his faithful horse Traveler coming back to his headquarters on July 4 1863. The artist is Dale Gallon. Maybe more people should watch things about the Civil War and learn that the yankees did horrible things to. It was a different time in our country and all southern people are not bad.

Comment by livingonli on 06/13/2008 04:16:09
Late night video theater is back;

















I was in the mood for some old Jam stuff tonight.

Comment by livingonli on 06/13/2008 06:38:00
BTW, driving home from work I had the Sirius Deep Track channel on and was listening to them segue from Jefferson Airplane's "Crown of Creation", Jimi Hendrix's version of "Like a Rolling Stone" from his Monterey performance and then Frank Zappa's "Disco Boy".



Ah, good times indeed. Watching the KO repeat before I turn in.