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Logan's Run
Author: BobR
Date: 01/28/2015 14:53:52
The Republican "leadership" in Congress continues it's approach to governing as a 3-yr old child automatically saying "NO" to anything requested. This has been their modus operandi ever since President Obama was elected; did anyone expect anything different after the last election? In this particular case, the president asked for Congress not to derail the delicate negotiations with Iran over nuclear development by going all bull-in-a-china-shop and enacting further sanctions.
Congress didn't just say NO, they said HELL NO!
It's really blatant on all sides. Congress is poking a stick in the eye of the administration. Netanyahu is timing this to coincide with elections in his country, although he claims it to be a coincidence. Traditionally, the office of the president has always been the one to engage leaders of foreign states. Congress doing an end-around breaks decades of precedence. It's beyond rude.
Even the more moderate voices at FOX "News" are shocked:
There have been claims that it's unconstitutional, but the Constitution is a little murky on issues like this. Nonetheless, it may be against the law, per the Logan Act:
Allowing a foreign leader to make the case in front of a joint session of Congress in an effort to scuttle the pending deal with Iran seems to be exactly the type of behavior this Act is intended to prevent. The question is: does the language "Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States..." apply to members of Congress? Are they considered the "authority", or are they considered the "citizens"?
Seems like a good test case for the Department of Justice. That might help grease the skids for the confirmation of AG nominee Loretta Lynch.
Congress didn't just say NO, they said HELL NO!
It's really blatant on all sides. Congress is poking a stick in the eye of the administration. Netanyahu is timing this to coincide with elections in his country, although he claims it to be a coincidence. Traditionally, the office of the president has always been the one to engage leaders of foreign states. Congress doing an end-around breaks decades of precedence. It's beyond rude.
Even the more moderate voices at FOX "News" are shocked:
The White House, State Department, and many foreign policy observers, including prominent former US ambassador to Israel Martin Indyk, expressed outrage over the move. And, in a sign of just how many lines Boehner and Netanyahu crossed, so did the two Fox News hosts.
"I agree 100 percent," Wallace said when Smith read a quote from Indyk criticizing the Boehner-Netanyahu maneuver. Wallace went on:And to make you get a sense of really how, forgive me, wicked, this whole thing is, the Secretary of State John Kerry met with the Israeli Ambassador to the United States for two hours on Tuesday, Ron Dermer. The ambassador, never mentioned the fact that Netanyahu was in negotiations and finally agreed to come to Washington, not to see the president, but to go to Capitol Hill, speak to a joint session of congress and criticize the president's policy. I have to say I'm shocked.
Smith said, "it seems like [Netanyahu's government] thinks we don't pay attention and that we're just a bunch of complete morons, the United States citizens, as if we wouldn't pick up on what's happening here."
There have been claims that it's unconstitutional, but the Constitution is a little murky on issues like this. Nonetheless, it may be against the law, per the Logan Act:
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
In general, the Act is intended to prohibit American citizens without authority from interfering in relations between the United States and foreign governments. Although attempts have been made to repeal the Act, it remains law and at least a potential sanction to be used against anyone who without authority interferes in the foreign relations of the United States.
Allowing a foreign leader to make the case in front of a joint session of Congress in an effort to scuttle the pending deal with Iran seems to be exactly the type of behavior this Act is intended to prevent. The question is: does the language "Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States..." apply to members of Congress? Are they considered the "authority", or are they considered the "citizens"?
Seems like a good test case for the Department of Justice. That might help grease the skids for the confirmation of AG nominee Loretta Lynch.
Comments:
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Comment by 
Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 13:58:38
Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 13:58:38
Good morning everyone. My utter contempt for 99% of humans continues.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 01/28/2015 14:05:49
wickedpam on 01/28/2015 14:05:49
Morning 
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 01/28/2015 14:23:49
trojanrabbit on 01/28/2015 14:23:49
Morning 
First world problems
Dunkin' Donuts not open. Cafeteria at work closed. No snacks in the break room.
But they aren't out of coffee....
First world problems
Dunkin' Donuts not open. Cafeteria at work closed. No snacks in the break room.
But they aren't out of coffee....
Comment by trojanrabbit on 01/28/2015 14:27:34
Why would you like the 1%?
trojanrabbit on 01/28/2015 14:27:34
Quote by Mondobubba:
Good morning everyone. My utter contempt for 99% of humans continues.
Why would you like the 1%?
Comment by 
BobR on 01/28/2015 14:54:24
BobR on 01/28/2015 14:54:24
BLOG IS POSTED
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 14:57:34
Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 14:57:34
The blog made my brain hurt. I really hate those people. Almost as much as I hate this woman: This is why people hate you, Gwyneth. WTH? Steam the va-jay-jay?
Comment by 
Raine on 01/28/2015 14:59:54
Raine on 01/28/2015 14:59:54
And now for something completely random….
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Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 15:08:57
Yeah I know I am the master of the non-sequitor.
Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 15:08:57
Quote by Raine:
And now for something completely random….
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Yeah I know I am the master of the non-sequitor.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2015 15:20:19
no. just no.
Raine on 01/28/2015 15:20:19
Quote by Mondobubba:
The blog made my brain hurt. I really hate those people. Almost as much as I hate this woman: This is why people hate you, Gwyneth. WTH? Steam the va-jay-jay?
no. just no.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 01/28/2015 15:21:57
Scoopster on 01/28/2015 15:21:57
Mornin' all.. 
I always preferred my dumplings fried, but I could see how steaming would be better in this case.
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
The blog made my brain hurt. I really hate those people. Almost as much as I hate this woman: This is why people hate you, Gwyneth. WTH? Steam the va-jay-jay?
no. just no.
I always preferred my dumplings fried, but I could see how steaming would be better in this case.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2015 15:23:41
I have hear a few people mention the logan act as of late.
The entire debacle is really blowing up in their faces.
Raine on 01/28/2015 15:23:41
Quote by BobR:
BLOG IS POSTED
I have hear a few people mention the logan act as of late.
The entire debacle is really blowing up in their faces.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2015 15:24:10
Raine on 01/28/2015 15:24:10
Comment by 
TriSec on 01/28/2015 15:26:44
TriSec on 01/28/2015 15:26:44
Morning, comrades.
Still snowbound - media, mayor, and city councilors have been called. Later, I shall walk down to the office in my snowshoes and tromp across the carpet to the manager's desk and demand action.
Still snowbound - media, mayor, and city councilors have been called. Later, I shall walk down to the office in my snowshoes and tromp across the carpet to the manager's desk and demand action.
Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2015 15:27:49
TriSec on 01/28/2015 15:27:49
I'm snowbound and low on eye bleach, DAMN YOU.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2015 15:48:36
I'd never heard of it - my first thought of Logan's Run was
wickedpam on 01/28/2015 15:48:36
Quote by Raine:Quote by BobR:
BLOG IS POSTED
I have hear a few people mention the logan act as of late.
The entire debacle is really blowing up in their faces.
I'd never heard of it - my first thought of Logan's Run was
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 15:53:26
What was hilarious was the sense of humor displayed by Facebook's similar articles algorithm; it had an article on steaming clams.
Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 15:53:26
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
The blog made my brain hurt. I really hate those people. Almost as much as I hate this woman: This is why people hate you, Gwyneth. WTH? Steam the va-jay-jay?
no. just no.
I always preferred my dumplings fried, but I could see how steaming would be better in this case.
What was hilarious was the sense of humor displayed by Facebook's similar articles algorithm; it had an article on steaming clams.
Comment by Scoopster on 01/28/2015 15:57:09
Mmmmm clams..
damnit now I'm hungry!
Scoopster on 01/28/2015 15:57:09
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:
The blog made my brain hurt. I really hate those people. Almost as much as I hate this woman: This is why people hate you, Gwyneth. WTH? Steam the va-jay-jay?
no. just no.
I always preferred my dumplings fried, but I could see how steaming would be better in this case.
What was hilarious was the sense of humor displayed by Facebook's similar articles algorithm; it had an article on steaming clams.
Mmmmm clams..
damnit now I'm hungry!
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2015 16:02:21
Raine on 01/28/2015 16:02:21
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.
Still snowbound - media, mayor, and city councilors have been called. Later, I shall walk down to the office in my snowshoes and tromp across the carpet to the manager's desk and demand action.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2015 16:14:29
wickedpam on 01/28/2015 16:14:29
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2015 16:34:30
Full on 
happening here.
Raine on 01/28/2015 16:34:30
Quote by wickedpam:
Stuipd Bud commercial - I still hate your beer *sniffles*
happening here.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2015 16:41:47
So this GoDaddy ad was mocking this bud commercial?
Scumbuckets.
Raine on 01/28/2015 16:41:47
Quote by wickedpam:
Stuipd Bud commercial - I still hate your beer *sniffles*
So this GoDaddy ad was mocking this bud commercial?
Scumbuckets.
Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2015 17:08:46
TriSec on 01/28/2015 17:08:46
I am now dug out, front and rear. (My car is another story.)
And the "Genius Brigade" is finally out front with some vintage snow removal equipment.
"HEY, the wheel just fell off!!!"
And the "Genius Brigade" is finally out front with some vintage snow removal equipment.
"HEY, the wheel just fell off!!!"
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 17:36:31
They are such slimy pricks.
Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 17:36:31
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
Stuipd Bud commercial - I still hate your beer *sniffles*
So this GoDaddy ad was mocking this bud commercial?
Scumbuckets.
They are such slimy pricks.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2015 17:52:42
wickedpam on 01/28/2015 17:52:42
So Joel Gray just came out as gay. 
Think I kind of already knew that.
Think I kind of already knew that.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 17:56:07
Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 17:56:07
So, my job has changed slightly. I am no longer monitoring our sales agents. I am now monitoring our web consultants, they do phone interviews with the clients for the first design of the website. We are using an Excel spreadsheet that is on a network share. Um, whyinthefuckarewedoingthat? WhyarewenotusingaGoogleDocspreadsheet? You know something that is designed to be used in the cloud so it is easily shared? We use one for the sales agents. WTF.
Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2015 18:14:22
URgh, a shared spreadsheet I use every day is full of sharing violations and other data corruptions. I have replicated the same spreadsheet for two other lines of business, but I have deliberately not shared those so this doesn't happen.
Do you have Websense? I bet GoogleDocs is blocked.
TriSec on 01/28/2015 18:14:22
Quote by Mondobubba:
So, my job has changed slightly. I am no longer monitoring our sales agents. I am now monitoring our web consultants, they do phone interviews with the clients for the first design of the website. We are using an Excel spreadsheet that is on a network share. Um, whyinthefuckarewedoingthat? WhyarewenotusingaGoogleDocspreadsheet? You know something that is designed to be used in the cloud so it is easily shared? We use one for the sales agents. WTF.
URgh, a shared spreadsheet I use every day is full of sharing violations and other data corruptions. I have replicated the same spreadsheet for two other lines of business, but I have deliberately not shared those so this doesn't happen.
Do you have Websense? I bet GoogleDocs is blocked.
Comment by TriSec on 01/28/2015 18:45:39
TriSec on 01/28/2015 18:45:39
I think the ol' remote network at FCHP just reached max capacity. It's completely tanked.
Comment by 
livingonli on 01/28/2015 18:46:10
livingonli on 01/28/2015 18:46:10
The upstairs tenants went to clean out the parking lot so we could get out, but apparently only cleaned enough so that they could get out, and there are still piles of snow in the driveway (including around my car), and the snowblower broke so the house doesn't have one.
Kill me now!
Kill me now!
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2015 19:05:48
Wow.
Way to play it totally safe Joel!
Raine on 01/28/2015 19:05:48
Quote by wickedpam:
So Joel Gray just came out as gay.
Way to play it totally safe Joel!
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 19:15:08
Nope, we need open and unfettered web access. Since ya know websites.
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Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 19:15:08
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
So, my job has changed slightly. I am no longer monitoring our sales agents. I am now monitoring our web consultants, they do phone interviews with the clients for the first design of the website. We are using an Excel spreadsheet that is on a network share. Um, whyinthefuckarewedoingthat? WhyarewenotusingaGoogleDocspreadsheet? You know something that is designed to be used in the cloud so it is easily shared? We use one for the sales agents. WTF.
URgh, a shared spreadsheet I use every day is full of sharing violations and other data corruptions. I have replicated the same spreadsheet for two other lines of business, but I have deliberately not shared those so this doesn't happen.
Do you have Websense? I bet GoogleDocs is blocked.
Nope, we need open and unfettered web access. Since ya know websites.
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Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 19:31:05
Joel Gray that man's man is gay? Well you could knock me over with feather!
Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 19:31:05
Quote by Raine:Wow.Quote by wickedpam:
So Joel Gray just came out as gay.
Way to play it totally safe Joel!
Joel Gray that man's man is gay? Well you could knock me over with feather!
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2015 20:19:36
Raine on 01/28/2015 20:19:36
Gay Joel Gray killed the blog….
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 20:23:20
Mondobubba on 01/28/2015 20:23:20
I can shenanigans on this list.
The East Coast goes from Miami to Maine. This is at best what the author thinks are the best donut shops in the mid-Atlantic region with and emphasis on Virgina,
The East Coast goes from Miami to Maine. This is at best what the author thinks are the best donut shops in the mid-Atlantic region with and emphasis on Virgina,
Comment by Scoopster on 01/28/2015 20:26:05
Scoopster on 01/28/2015 20:26:05
Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2015 20:38:32
I don't know why I had a Heather's flashback
wickedpam on 01/28/2015 20:38:32
Quote by Raine:
Gay Joel Gray killed the blog….
I don't know why I had a Heather's flashback
Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2015 20:41:49
not heard of the others but I have heard of Naughty Girl Donuts heard they're pretty good.
wickedpam on 01/28/2015 20:41:49
Quote by Mondobubba:
I can shenanigans on this list.
The East Coast goes from Miami to Maine. This is at best what the author thinks are the best donut shops in the mid-Atlantic region with and emphasis on Virgina,
not heard of the others but I have heard of Naughty Girl Donuts heard they're pretty good.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2015 20:54:45
This just opened near us and all I can say is this:
Suck it Kaine's. I could go for one tonite, for dinner.
Raine on 01/28/2015 20:54:45
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
I can shenanigans on this list.
The East Coast goes from Miami to Maine. This is at best what the author thinks are the best donut shops in the mid-Atlantic region with and emphasis on Virgina,
not heard of the others but I have heard of Naughty Girl Donuts heard they're pretty good.
Suck it Kaine's. I could go for one tonite, for dinner.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2015 20:58:33
Right now I am still pissed that the media has basically given Lyndsey a pass on his comments about how the GOP needs to figure out what the definition of Rape is.
They went APESHIT when todd Akin said something very similar and he gate a pass?!?!
Also, this is the guy who adopted his sister in order to get federal assistance. Fuck him and all his boyfriends.
Raine on 01/28/2015 20:58:33
Right now I am still pissed that the media has basically given Lyndsey a pass on his comments about how the GOP needs to figure out what the definition of Rape is.
They went APESHIT when todd Akin said something very similar and he gate a pass?!?!
Also, this is the guy who adopted his sister in order to get federal assistance. Fuck him and all his boyfriends.
Comment by Raine on 01/28/2015 21:01:37
Mala, I think Sugar Shack Donuts will be served at our party this summer. The hype is delivered by delicious.
Raine on 01/28/2015 21:01:37
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
I can shenanigans on this list.
The East Coast goes from Miami to Maine. This is at best what the author thinks are the best donut shops in the mid-Atlantic region with and emphasis on Virgina,
not heard of the others but I have heard of Naughty Girl Donuts heard they're pretty good.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2015 21:29:12
Are they as good as "Big as your face" Shoppers donuts?
wickedpam on 01/28/2015 21:29:12
Quote by Raine:Mala, I think Sugar Shack Donuts will be served at our party this summer. The hype is delivered by delicious.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
I can shenanigans on this list.
The East Coast goes from Miami to Maine. This is at best what the author thinks are the best donut shops in the mid-Atlantic region with and emphasis on Virgina,
not heard of the others but I have heard of Naughty Girl Donuts heard they're pretty good.
Are they as good as "Big as your face" Shoppers donuts?
Comment by BobR on 01/28/2015 21:41:09
Those are just big. Sugar Shack donuts are really tasty.
BobR on 01/28/2015 21:41:09
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Mala, I think Sugar Shack Donuts will be served at our party this summer. The hype is delivered by delicious.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
I can shenanigans on this list.
The East Coast goes from Miami to Maine. This is at best what the author thinks are the best donut shops in the mid-Atlantic region with and emphasis on Virgina,
not heard of the others but I have heard of Naughty Girl Donuts heard they're pretty good.
Are they as good as "Big as your face" Shoppers donuts?
Those are just big. Sugar Shack donuts are really tasty.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/28/2015 21:57:22
cool, I look forward to them then
wickedpam on 01/28/2015 21:57:22
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Mala, I think Sugar Shack Donuts will be served at our party this summer. The hype is delivered by delicious.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
I can shenanigans on this list.
The East Coast goes from Miami to Maine. This is at best what the author thinks are the best donut shops in the mid-Atlantic region with and emphasis on Virgina,
not heard of the others but I have heard of Naughty Girl Donuts heard they're pretty good.
Are they as good as "Big as your face" Shoppers donuts?
Those are just big. Sugar Shack donuts are really tasty.
cool, I look forward to them then
Comment by TriSec on 01/29/2015 01:18:42
TriSec on 01/29/2015 01:18:42
Urgh, and now shovelling all day is catching up with me.