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Supreme Disappointment
Author: BobR
Date: 06/27/2008 12:25:35
The Supreme Court has been busy the last few days. It's that time of year when these 9 don their robes, listen to arguments, then write opinions based on their own personal... opinions. When the stars align correctly (such as Rowe -vs- Wade), these decisions grant individuals more rights, more freedoms, and more protection. Lately though, the decisions have been swinging the other way.
A few days ago, they decided that the $2.5 billion in damages awarded by a lower court to be split among some 32,000 plaintiffs needed to be reduced to about $507.5 million. Their rationale?:
I wonder if there's any precedent in law for a "1-1 ratio"? That seems VERY arbitrary...
The SCOTUS also struck down the so-called "Millionaire's Amendment" portion of the McCain-Fiengold campaign finance reform law, saying it's unconstitutional because it violates the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. The idea was to level the playing field for poor candidates campaigning against wealthy candidates that use his/her own money by raising the caps on contributions. The upshot of this is that our government will be of the rich, for the rich, and by the rich. One can only hope they have some cake with which to feed us...
Another controversial ruling involves the death penalty and child rape. The court struck down the death penalty for any crime other than one that results in a death. Certain crimes are so outrageous and disgusting that the emotional response is to string the scumbag up by his balls and leave him there to die (be honest - what were you thinking about that Austrian guy that kept his daughter locked up in the basesment for his own personal rape toy?). Naturally, this ruling has plenty of people voicing their opinions, including Barack Obama:
That should produce some very mixed feelings in the typical pro-Obama/anti-death penalty people...
The most notorious of the rulings though, was the willful misinterpretation of the 2nd Ammendment. In shooting down the DC gun ban, the court has opened a whole new can of worms:
Scalia in particular, decided to parse the 2nd Ammendment at every comma:
... and then immediately contradicted himself:
Let's take a look at that exact wording, shall we?
Seems to me that being a member of a well-regulated militia IS specified, while limiting certain types of weaponry is not. What the hell was he reading??
Of all the SCOTUS justices that need to retire (IMO), Scalia is at the top of the list. He doesn't try to hide his bias and how they affect his decisions. He recently blamed Al Gore for the 2000 election mess:
The 2000 election case and the recent DC gun ownership case seem to be appropriate bookends to his time in the SCOTUS during the Bush Administration that saw Scalia and Cheney going on a hunting trip together. Justice is supposed to be blind. Justices, on the other hand, should not be blind to their own predjudices and political leanings. They should overcome them in defference to the law, not the other way around.
More than the environment, more than the Iraq War, more than the economy, the replacement of judges on the SCOTUS is the most important issue of the upcoming election. Let these recent decisions be an important reminder of that.
A few days ago, they decided that the $2.5 billion in damages awarded by a lower court to be split among some 32,000 plaintiffs needed to be reduced to about $507.5 million. Their rationale?:
The court's majority found that Exxon had acted without "intentional or malicious conduct," and a 1-to-1 ratio of punitive to compensatory damages "is a fair upper limit in such maritime cases," according to the decision penned by Justice David Souter.
Plaintiffs said the court failed to take into account the damages that never were compensated in the first place, due to the quirks of maritime law and the long years it took for environmental impacts to manifest themselves.
I wonder if there's any precedent in law for a "1-1 ratio"? That seems VERY arbitrary...
The SCOTUS also struck down the so-called "Millionaire's Amendment" portion of the McCain-Fiengold campaign finance reform law, saying it's unconstitutional because it violates the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. The idea was to level the playing field for poor candidates campaigning against wealthy candidates that use his/her own money by raising the caps on contributions. The upshot of this is that our government will be of the rich, for the rich, and by the rich. One can only hope they have some cake with which to feed us...
Another controversial ruling involves the death penalty and child rape. The court struck down the death penalty for any crime other than one that results in a death. Certain crimes are so outrageous and disgusting that the emotional response is to string the scumbag up by his balls and leave him there to die (be honest - what were you thinking about that Austrian guy that kept his daughter locked up in the basesment for his own personal rape toy?). Naturally, this ruling has plenty of people voicing their opinions, including Barack Obama:
When asked about Supreme Court ruling against the use of the death penalty in instances of child rape today at a news conference in Chicago, Obama answered, “I disagree with the decision. I have said repeatedly that I think that the death penalty should be applied in very narrow circumstances for most egregious of crimes. I think that the rape of a small child, six or eight years old is a heinous crime, and if a state makes a decision that under narrow, limited, well-defined circumstances, the death penalty is at least potentially applicable. That does not violate our constitution.”
He continued, “Had the Supreme Court said, ‘We want to constrain ability of states to do this to make sure that it's done in a careful and appropriate way,’ that would've been one thing, but it basically had a blanket prohibition and I disagree with that decision.”
That should produce some very mixed feelings in the typical pro-Obama/anti-death penalty people...
The most notorious of the rulings though, was the willful misinterpretation of the 2nd Ammendment. In shooting down the DC gun ban, the court has opened a whole new can of worms:
By 5-4, the court struck down the District of Columbia’s strict gun ban as an infringement on fundamental rights. The court’s historic ruling reinterprets the Second Amendment for the first time in nearly 70 years, foreshadowing new challenges to local, state and federal gun laws.
Scalia in particular, decided to parse the 2nd Ammendment at every comma:
"The Second Amendment protects an individual right to protect a firearm unconnected with service in a militia and to use that arm for traditionally lawful proposes, such as self-defense within the home,” Justice Antonin Scalia wrote for the majority.
... and then immediately contradicted himself:
“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited,” Scalia wrote. “It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”
Let's take a look at that exact wording, shall we?
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Seems to me that being a member of a well-regulated militia IS specified, while limiting certain types of weaponry is not. What the hell was he reading??
Of all the SCOTUS justices that need to retire (IMO), Scalia is at the top of the list. He doesn't try to hide his bias and how they affect his decisions. He recently blamed Al Gore for the 2000 election mess:
"Richard Nixon, when he lost to [John F.] Kennedy thought that the election had been stolen in Chicago, which was very likely true with the system at the time," Justice Antonin Scalia told The Telegraph.
"But he did not even think about bringing a court challenge. That was his prerogative. So you know if you don't like it, don't blame it on me.
"I didn't bring it into the courts. Mr Gore brought it into the courts.
The 2000 election case and the recent DC gun ownership case seem to be appropriate bookends to his time in the SCOTUS during the Bush Administration that saw Scalia and Cheney going on a hunting trip together. Justice is supposed to be blind. Justices, on the other hand, should not be blind to their own predjudices and political leanings. They should overcome them in defference to the law, not the other way around.
More than the environment, more than the Iraq War, more than the economy, the replacement of judges on the SCOTUS is the most important issue of the upcoming election. Let these recent decisions be an important reminder of that.
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Comment by 
capt on 06/27/2008 13:02:15
capt on 06/27/2008 13:02:15
There is some case law that followed the 1:1 rule but I am not a legal guy so . . .
What we need is a Super-dooper-Supreme Court that can over rule the uber-rulers!
What we need is a Super-dooper-Supreme Court that can over rule the uber-rulers!
Comment by 
clintster on 06/27/2008 13:04:18
clintster on 06/27/2008 13:04:18
Gaaah! No liveblarg today, and Green 960 is taking its sweetass time to load up. Did Steph spill wine on the servers?
Mornin, 4F'ers!
Mornin, 4F'ers!
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 13:05:07
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 13:05:07
OK, I'm here since it's possible my Dr. Evil clone has taken down the entire SM site. ;)
No pain with the eye capt, just a slight bit of discomfort, it feels tired. Just a lot of people going "what's wrong with your eye?"
It happens once in a great while, maybe once a year. It'll be cleared up by the end of the weekend.
No pain with the eye capt, just a slight bit of discomfort, it feels tired. Just a lot of people going "what's wrong with your eye?"
It happens once in a great while, maybe once a year. It'll be cleared up by the end of the weekend.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 13:06:54
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 13:06:54
Morning :hug:
2 things I noticed this week -
1. Ya know that 2.5B going to 32,000 would have giving each of those people 7Mil if I did my math right. When it comes to awarding damages 7mil for the person hurt was not a crazy out of control number.
2. The DC Gun Ban was struck down cause some paranoid middle aged white guys are scared and don't like that they are pretty much in the minority in DC.
2 things I noticed this week -
1. Ya know that 2.5B going to 32,000 would have giving each of those people 7Mil if I did my math right. When it comes to awarding damages 7mil for the person hurt was not a crazy out of control number.
2. The DC Gun Ban was struck down cause some paranoid middle aged white guys are scared and don't like that they are pretty much in the minority in DC.
Comment by 
TriSec on 06/27/2008 13:09:18
TriSec on 06/27/2008 13:09:18
Well, thpth. I get back to listening to Momma again, and she ups and goes on vacation.
Well, there's gratitude for ya.
:kickcan:
Well, there's gratitude for ya.
:kickcan:
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 13:11:10
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 13:11:10
Maybe we'll have Frangela again so no worries Tri.
Heyya capt, clint and TJ.
Heyya capt, clint and TJ.
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 13:11:32
TriSec on 06/27/2008 13:11:32
I am still waiting for the mini-Bee Gees here. :modbat:
Comment by clintster on 06/27/2008 13:12:18
clintster on 06/27/2008 13:12:18
Vacation! It'd mean a lot more to me if I weren't unemployed. :P
Comment by clintster on 06/27/2008 13:13:13
clintster on 06/27/2008 13:13:13
Hey Pam! Ready for the Fridee partee?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 13:15:52
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 13:15:52
So any mention on the show about the site being down?
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 13:17:12
TriSec on 06/27/2008 13:17:12
Well, I generally don't listen during vacation weeks. Got a lot of podcasts to catch up on, and there's always music to be listened to. [Natalie Walker, swoon!]
Comment by 
BobR on 06/27/2008 13:18:36
Actually, that works out to $78,125 per person. Post-decision that drops to $15,625 per person.
EDIT: minus lawyer's fees, of course...
BobR on 06/27/2008 13:18:36
Quote by wickedpam:
1. Ya know that 2.5B going to 32,000 would have giving each of those people 7Mil if I did my math right. When it comes to awarding damages 7mil for the person hurt was not a crazy out of control number.
Actually, that works out to $78,125 per person. Post-decision that drops to $15,625 per person.
EDIT: minus lawyer's fees, of course...
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 13:18:45
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 13:18:45
Always ready for Fridee Clint :D
Tri - To quote Fergie "check'em out" Frangela is a very good fill in for Steph.
Tri - To quote Fergie "check'em out" Frangela is a very good fill in for Steph.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 13:18:57
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 13:18:57
My impression was that the vacation started NEXT week and this was the last show before vacation. Am I wrong?
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 13:19:21
capt on 06/27/2008 13:19:21
Okay, penis joke.
A little boy and little girl are wondering what the word penis means (they overheard it)
The little boy goes and asks his mom "What is a penis?" mom sends him to ask his dad. . .
"Dad what is a penis?"
Dad is pretty open and wants to make the point so he whips it out and says "Son see this? This is a perfect penis"
The boy says OH, Okay . . . .
So the little boy goes back to his friend. She asks "Did ya find out what a penis is?"
"Yes!"
The boy whips his out and says . . . . .
"If this was two inches shorter it would be a perfect penis!"
A little boy and little girl are wondering what the word penis means (they overheard it)
The little boy goes and asks his mom "What is a penis?" mom sends him to ask his dad. . .
"Dad what is a penis?"
Dad is pretty open and wants to make the point so he whips it out and says "Son see this? This is a perfect penis"
The boy says OH, Okay . . . .
So the little boy goes back to his friend. She asks "Did ya find out what a penis is?"
"Yes!"
The boy whips his out and says . . . . .
"If this was two inches shorter it would be a perfect penis!"
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 13:20:27
capt on 06/27/2008 13:20:27
Comment by 
m-hadley on 06/27/2008 13:20:41
m-hadley on 06/27/2008 13:20:41
Mornin' Everybody.
I guess the SMS web site has already left for vacation :D
Momma and the mooks and definitely limping to the vacation line...
Happee Fridee !!!
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
I guess the SMS web site has already left for vacation :D
Momma and the mooks and definitely limping to the vacation line...
Happee Fridee !!!
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 13:23:30
oops
Decmial in the wrong place.
Reason number 512 of why I was an English major.
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 13:23:30
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
1. Ya know that 2.5B going to 32,000 would have giving each of those people 7Mil if I did my math right. When it comes to awarding damages 7mil for the person hurt was not a crazy out of control number.
Actually, that works out to $78,125 per person. Post-decision that drops to $15,625 per person.
EDIT: minus lawyer's fees, of course...
oops
Decmial in the wrong place. Reason number 512 of why I was an English major.
Comment by clintster on 06/27/2008 13:25:17
clintster on 06/27/2008 13:25:17
5 chili dogs for $5? I gotta get to Wienerschnitzel's!!!
Ummm, anybody got a ticket to San Fran they can loan me?
Ummm, anybody got a ticket to San Fran they can loan me?
Comment by 
livingonli on 06/27/2008 13:33:12
livingonli on 06/27/2008 13:33:12
Good morning everyone.
Well, I guess I'm not the only one who can't get into the Stephanie Miller site. So I'm listening to the show via Nova M.
Scalia is not an impartial judge and rules through his bias. His son was also working the Bush side in Bush v. Gore which means he had a stake in the outcome. He should be impeached for violating judicial ethics.
Well, I guess I'm not the only one who can't get into the Stephanie Miller site. So I'm listening to the show via Nova M.
Scalia is not an impartial judge and rules through his bias. His son was also working the Bush side in Bush v. Gore which means he had a stake in the outcome. He should be impeached for violating judicial ethics.
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 13:34:05
livingonli on 06/27/2008 13:34:05
I wonder if producerchis has popped in since there is no live blog this morning.
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 13:34:52
TriSec on 06/27/2008 13:34:52
Obama has many interesting things to recommend him, but that tidbit about him holding a degree in Constitutional Law and being a scholar of said Constitution really speaks volumes to me about his motivation.
After "It's just a damn piece of paper", to have the next occupant of the oval office be as professionally reverent about it as us lay people is going to be quite a change.
After "It's just a damn piece of paper", to have the next occupant of the oval office be as professionally reverent about it as us lay people is going to be quite a change.
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 06/27/2008 13:34:59
Will in Chicago on 06/27/2008 13:34:59
Good morning, bloggers!
I can't blame Momma and the Mooks for wanting to take it easy. We have been on a rollercoaster for a long time in terms of the news.
As for the Supreme Court, I think that we should have evidence that there is a need to make sure that there is a chance to have more reasonable justices than Scalia appointed to the bench. (Mike Malloy seems to be doubtful about Obama and the Democrats appointing anyone more liberal than John Roberts because of fear of the Republicans.)
The UNN Daily Headlines are up.
In addition to the Supreme Court news, here is a disturbing story from the Independent UK:
Exclusive: No ice at the North Pole
I can't blame Momma and the Mooks for wanting to take it easy. We have been on a rollercoaster for a long time in terms of the news.
As for the Supreme Court, I think that we should have evidence that there is a need to make sure that there is a chance to have more reasonable justices than Scalia appointed to the bench. (Mike Malloy seems to be doubtful about Obama and the Democrats appointing anyone more liberal than John Roberts because of fear of the Republicans.)
The UNN Daily Headlines are up.
In addition to the Supreme Court news, here is a disturbing story from the Independent UK:
Exclusive: No ice at the North Pole
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 13:38:05
capt on 06/27/2008 13:38:05
We can expect Barack to appoint justices that are not hard left. He will appoint from the center/center right.
Not that I agree but I think I can read his beads (a little)
Not that I agree but I think I can read his beads (a little)
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 13:40:53
livingonli on 06/27/2008 13:40:53
I just got a call. The inspector is coming over in 20 minutes to go look at my car which means I will be in and out. I also have to go dig out my title which hopefully is in my storage box.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 13:44:10
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 13:44:10
Dude. McSame was born in Panama.
Comment by 
Raine on 06/27/2008 13:45:04
Raine on 06/27/2008 13:45:04
F*ckin' Frank!!!
Good morning...
Good morning...
Comment by clintster on 06/27/2008 13:46:01
clintster on 06/27/2008 13:46:01
WTF? RW caller blathering about Obama's "ineligibility" because his mom was between the ages of 18-23? Thanks for playing "Grasping For Straws"!
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 13:46:03
TriSec on 06/27/2008 13:46:03
Caller, John McCain has shakier credentials for US citizenship. He was born in Panama.
Obama was born in Hawaii. 'nuff said.
Constitution segment (Article 2, section 1):
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Nothing about Barack's mother needing to live in the US 5 years after giving birth. If this is the latest the right is rolling out....
Obama was born in Hawaii. 'nuff said.
Constitution segment (Article 2, section 1):
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Nothing about Barack's mother needing to live in the US 5 years after giving birth. If this is the latest the right is rolling out....
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 13:47:24
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 13:47:24
It looks like the Supremes took pity on poor picked-on Exxon. I mean, that $2bn would really, really hurt them. Their strategy worked perfectly - stall, stall and stall until most of the plaintiffs died off and they got a court system rigged in their favor.
Think of their profits when gas is $7/gal in 2010 like it's being predicted.
"Make it so, Number One"
Think of their profits when gas is $7/gal in 2010 like it's being predicted.
"Make it so, Number One"
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/27/2008 13:50:20
Euripides: Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.
Doesn't seem like a very long drive for that last caller.
Will in Chicago on 06/27/2008 13:50:20
Quote by TriSec:
Caller, John McCain has shakier credentials for US citizenship. He was born in Panama.
Obama was born in Hawaii. 'nuff said.
Constitution segment (Article 2, section 1):
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Nothing about Barack's mother needing to live in the US 5 years after giving birth. If this is the latest the right is rolling out....
Euripides: Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.
Doesn't seem like a very long drive for that last caller.
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 13:52:27
Or is it making up bullshit as you go along? Like most right-wingers, pulling things out of their ass is a specialty.
livingonli on 06/27/2008 13:52:27
Quote by clintster:
WTF? RW caller blathering about Obama's "ineligibility" because his mom was between the ages of 18-23? Thanks for playing "Grasping For Straws"!
Or is it making up bullshit as you go along? Like most right-wingers, pulling things out of their ass is a specialty.
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 13:52:52
capt on 06/27/2008 13:52:52
Barack could have been born in a state where mixed marriage was illegal . . .
Lucky it was Hawaii
Lucky it was Hawaii
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 13:55:14
TriSec on 06/27/2008 13:55:14
Actually, if you want to be nit-picky, the constitution only specifies such citizens living at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution.
So anyone born after the adoption of the Constitution would be exempt?
And using the latest bit of twisted logic, since there were no United States prior to 232 years ago, because we were all born in areas that were formerly not states, I guess we're all ineligible to run for president?
So anyone born after the adoption of the Constitution would be exempt?
And using the latest bit of twisted logic, since there were no United States prior to 232 years ago, because we were all born in areas that were formerly not states, I guess we're all ineligible to run for president?
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 13:55:53
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 13:55:53
Heyya Raine and everyone I missed
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 13:57:01
capt on 06/27/2008 13:57:01
Only McCain is eligible.
I guess that does it!
Do these ringers really try to think of stoooopid stuff or does it come naturally to them?
I guess that does it!
Do these ringers really try to think of stoooopid stuff or does it come naturally to them?
Comment by clintster on 06/27/2008 13:58:23
clintster on 06/27/2008 13:58:23
Great. Details of Ted Haggard's "contact" with an escort. There's my nightmare fuel for tonight.
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 14:01:01
Morning Mala. It's weird seeing you get on the blog before I get up.
livingonli on 06/27/2008 14:01:01
Quote by wickedpam:
Heyya Raine and everyone I missed
Morning Mala. It's weird seeing you get on the blog before I get up.
Comment by BobR on 06/27/2008 14:03:05
seriously. I did NOT need to know that... :puke:
EDIT: Of course, considering that's what he confessed to, you have to wonder what he DIDN'T confess to... :wacko:
BobR on 06/27/2008 14:03:05
Quote by clintster:
Great. Details of Ted Haggard's "contact" with an escort. There's my nightmare fuel for tonight.
seriously. I did NOT need to know that... :puke:
EDIT: Of course, considering that's what he confessed to, you have to wonder what he DIDN'T confess to... :wacko:
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 14:03:22
capt on 06/27/2008 14:03:22
This just IN!
Ted Haggard is dating Larry Sinclair. . . . .
Ted Haggard is dating Larry Sinclair. . . . .
Comment by m-hadley on 06/27/2008 14:04:00
Mornin' Capt,
I blogged about that very possibility a couple weeks ago - check it out. The post also includes a nice photo of Barack's parents.
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
m-hadley on 06/27/2008 14:04:00
Quote by capt:
Barack could have been born in a state where mixed marriage was illegal . . .
Lucky it was Hawaii
Mornin' Capt,
I blogged about that very possibility a couple weeks ago - check it out. The post also includes a nice photo of Barack's parents.
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 14:06:17
What wrong with rabbit's eye? :worry:
Raine on 06/27/2008 14:06:17
Quote by trojanrabbit:
OK, I'm here since it's possible my Dr. Evil clone has taken down the entire SM site. ;)
No pain with the eye capt, just a slight bit of discomfort, it feels tired. Just a lot of people going "what's wrong with your eye?"
It happens once in a great while, maybe once a year. It'll be cleared up by the end of the weekend.
What wrong with rabbit's eye? :worry:
Comment by m-hadley on 06/27/2008 14:07:14
Mornin' Mala & Livin,
Mala - How's the job going for your Mom? Liv - How was work last night? Inquiring minds want to know these things... :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
m-hadley on 06/27/2008 14:07:14
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:
Heyya Raine and everyone I missed
Morning Mala. It's weird seeing you get on the blog before I get up.
Mornin' Mala & Livin,
Mala - How's the job going for your Mom? Liv - How was work last night? Inquiring minds want to know these things... :P
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 14:07:26
capt on 06/27/2008 14:07:26
OMG - his dad is *whipsers* black?
Now what!
Now what!
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 14:09:12
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 14:09:12
Faye - She's says it went fine she just has to get a handle on the switchboard but she will. :)
Comment by 
Scoopster on 06/27/2008 14:09:49
Oh my.. And they're double-dating with Jeff Gannon and Senator Larry Craig! :o
Scoopster on 06/27/2008 14:09:49
Quote by capt:
This just IN!
Ted Haggard is dating Larry Sinclair. . . . .
Oh my.. And they're double-dating with Jeff Gannon and Senator Larry Craig! :o
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 14:10:55
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 14:10:55
Nothing really Raine
Once in a great while a blood vessel ruptures and one side of the eyeball gets red. Probably happens about once a year. Looks a lot worse than it feels. It'll be gone by the end of the weekend.
Once in a great while a blood vessel ruptures and one side of the eyeball gets red. Probably happens about once a year. Looks a lot worse than it feels. It'll be gone by the end of the weekend.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/27/2008 14:10:57
Scoopster on 06/27/2008 14:10:57
BTW morning all 
Say, was the bloggie a bit tempermental earlier? I tried to open up the thread and it crashed my tubes exploder a few times.
Maybe I should stick with Firefox ;)
Say, was the bloggie a bit tempermental earlier? I tried to open up the thread and it crashed my tubes exploder a few times.Maybe I should stick with Firefox ;)
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 14:11:54
Raine on 06/27/2008 14:11:54
:thud: That was a real movie?
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 14:12:56
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 14:12:56
Ya know Marie Digby has a good version of Umbrella too.
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 14:13:18
capt on 06/27/2008 14:13:18
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065895/
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 14:15:27
capt on 06/27/2008 14:15:27
Scarlett Johansson for first girlfriend?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 14:18:49
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 14:18:49
Geez, I can't see how they even make SPARTA today.
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 14:20:09
capt on 06/27/2008 14:20:09
#300
SPATRA!!!!!!
Just pretending . . . ..
SPATRA!!!!!!
Just pretending . . . ..
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 14:20:40
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 14:20:40
Marie Digby
Umbrella- Rhinna
Gimme More - Britnery
Umbrella- Rhinna
Gimme More - Britnery
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 14:24:32
Is that anything like Mothra?
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 14:24:32
Quote by capt:
#300
SPATRA!!!!!!
Just pretending . . . ..
Is that anything like Mothra?
Comment by Scoopster on 06/27/2008 14:26:23
:cry: she's engaged to Ryan Reynolds.. another hottie off the market!
Scoopster on 06/27/2008 14:26:23
Quote by capt:
Scarlett Johansson for first girlfriend?
:cry: she's engaged to Ryan Reynolds.. another hottie off the market!
Comment by BobR on 06/27/2008 14:27:01
IE blew up on me this morning a few times as well, and that was before I was really doing anything on the blog.
It WAS, however, AFTER an automatic update in the middle of the night that forced a reboot of my computer...
BobR on 06/27/2008 14:27:01
Quote by Scoopster:
BTW morning all
Maybe I should stick with Firefox ;)
IE blew up on me this morning a few times as well, and that was before I was really doing anything on the blog.
It WAS, however, AFTER an automatic update in the middle of the night that forced a reboot of my computer...
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 14:27:11
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 14:27:11
Every Breath you Take - Police - that's just a creepy song I don't get how people think that's romantic
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 14:27:55
Raine on 06/27/2008 14:27:55
I remember I suggested Stairway to heaven for my first marriage, and then I realized what I was saying...
Comment by BobR on 06/27/2008 14:28:06
oh like YOU had a chance... :rolleyes:
BobR on 06/27/2008 14:28:06
Quote by Scoopster:
:cry: she's engaged to Ryan Reynolds.. another hottie off the market!
oh like YOU had a chance... :rolleyes:
Comment by 
Shane-O on 06/27/2008 14:28:42
Shane-O on 06/27/2008 14:28:42
Eagles - I guess it's better than talk and cheap wine...?
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 14:30:29
TriSec on 06/27/2008 14:30:29
I proposed to Mrs. TriSec in the mall parking lot with U2's "Mysterious Ways" playing on WZLX....
Then I wanted Led Zeppelin's "Black Dog" as the recessional, but that didn't fly, either. I also suggested "Moonlight Serenade" for our dance, but was overruled in favor of "Unchained Melody".
'course, I wanted to have the ceremony under a tent in my mother's backyard, but again since I was only the groom, had no say whasoever on any of the procedings. "Show up at the appointed time and do what I tell you..."
Then I wanted Led Zeppelin's "Black Dog" as the recessional, but that didn't fly, either. I also suggested "Moonlight Serenade" for our dance, but was overruled in favor of "Unchained Melody".
'course, I wanted to have the ceremony under a tent in my mother's backyard, but again since I was only the groom, had no say whasoever on any of the procedings. "Show up at the appointed time and do what I tell you..."
Comment by Shane-O on 06/27/2008 14:30:40
Shane-O on 06/27/2008 14:30:40
Live Blog is back up
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 14:30:56
Well. sparta can't happen here, but I think that we need some kinda crazy battle call for whoever hits the 10:30 spot.
or something like that!
Raine on 06/27/2008 14:30:56
Quote by capt:
#300
SPATRA!!!!!!
Just pretending . . . ..
or something like that!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 06/27/2008 14:32:20
Will in Chicago on 06/27/2008 14:32:20
Everyone, have fun.
I have to do some yard work. So, I will be back later.
BobR, check out the Daily Headlines. I added today's blog entry here to the Blogosphere section.
I have to do some yard work. So, I will be back later.
BobR, check out the Daily Headlines. I added today's blog entry here to the Blogosphere section.
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 14:43:25
Raine on 06/27/2008 14:43:25
PUMAs? Oh please.
I heard yesterday that 23 percent of Hillary supports (and I say that mildly) are now supporting John McCain, I have said it before and I will say it again... they were NEVER dems. They are Republicans for hillary. Always were.
They are equal to *ush's 23%.
I heard yesterday that 23 percent of Hillary supports (and I say that mildly) are now supporting John McCain, I have said it before and I will say it again... they were NEVER dems. They are Republicans for hillary. Always were.
They are equal to *ush's 23%.
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 14:46:38
TriSec on 06/27/2008 14:46:38
So...using BobMath™, that leaves 77% of Hilary supporters that will vote for Barack, plus 100% of Sen. Obama's original supporters.
The question is, does that 177% of Democrats beat the 19% of Republicans that want a third term for Bush?
The question is, does that 177% of Democrats beat the 19% of Republicans that want a third term for Bush?
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 14:51:45
TriSec on 06/27/2008 14:51:45
Fabulous Lockport!
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 14:54:23
:clap: BobMath™--- It's the NEW NewMath™
Raine on 06/27/2008 14:54:23
Quote by TriSec:
So...using BobMath™, that leaves 77% of Hilary supporters that will vote for Barack, plus 100% of Sen. Obama's original supporters.
The question is, does that 177% of Democrats beat the 19% of Republicans that want a third term for Bush?
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 14:54:25
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 14:54:25
Anyone ever notice that Steph sometimes channels Roselind Russel from His Girl Friday?
Comment by Scoopster on 06/27/2008 14:57:08
[irish] I'm prettier than this man! [/irish]
Scoopster on 06/27/2008 14:57:08
Quote by BobR:Quote by Scoopster:
:cry: she's engaged to Ryan Reynolds.. another hottie off the market!
oh like YOU had a chance... :rolleyes:
[irish] I'm prettier than this man! [/irish]
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 14:58:21
livingonli on 06/27/2008 14:58:21
Been spending the last almost hour trying to find my title to the car. I don't know where I placed it or if it got lost when I moved several years ago, but so far no luck. The inspector's looking at the car.
Comment by BobR on 06/27/2008 15:01:53
please - do not disparage BobMath™ with such obvious mistakes.
Assuming the Democratic voters were split 50/50 between Obama and Clinton we have:
50% Obama x 100% = 50%
50% Clinton x 77% = 38.5%
====================
TOTAL = 88.5%
Considering ONLY the popular vote in the primaries, and ONLY for non-caucus states (which are the only ones for which we have accurate counts), and leaving off the last few states (because I am too lazy to look them up and update my spreadsheet):
Obama:
100% x 15.7M = 15.7M
77% x 16.0M = 12.3M
McCain:
100% x 8.8M = 8.8M
23% x 16.0M = 3.7M
That equates to 28M votes for Obama and 12M votes for McCain.
Do the math?... I just did.
BobR on 06/27/2008 15:01:53
Quote by TriSec:
So...using BobMath™, that leaves 77% of Hilary supporters that will vote for Barack, plus 100% of Sen. Obama's original supporters.
The question is, does that 177% of Democrats beat the 19% of Republicans that want a third term for Bush?
please - do not disparage BobMath™ with such obvious mistakes.
Assuming the Democratic voters were split 50/50 between Obama and Clinton we have:
50% Obama x 100% = 50%
50% Clinton x 77% = 38.5%
====================
TOTAL = 88.5%
Considering ONLY the popular vote in the primaries, and ONLY for non-caucus states (which are the only ones for which we have accurate counts), and leaving off the last few states (because I am too lazy to look them up and update my spreadsheet):
Obama:
100% x 15.7M = 15.7M
77% x 16.0M = 12.3M
McCain:
100% x 8.8M = 8.8M
23% x 16.0M = 3.7M
That equates to 28M votes for Obama and 12M votes for McCain.
Do the math?... I just did.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 15:02:04
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 15:02:04
Liv - check with the place you had the loan or the maker they might be able to get you another title
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 15:04:24
Math
:thud:
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 15:04:24
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
So...using BobMath™, that leaves 77% of Hilary supporters that will vote for Barack, plus 100% of Sen. Obama's original supporters.
The question is, does that 177% of Democrats beat the 19% of Republicans that want a third term for Bush?
please - do not disparage BobMath™ with such obvious mistakes.
Assuming the Democratic voters were split 50/50 between Obama and Clinton we have:
50% Obama x 100% = 50%
50% Clinton x 77% = 38.5%
====================
TOTAL = 88.5%
Considering ONLY the popular vote in the primaries, and ONLY for non-caucus states (which are the only ones for which we have accurate counts), and leaving off the last few states (because I am too lazy to look them up and update my spreadsheet):
Obama:
100% x 15.7M = 15.7M
77% x 16.0M = 12.3M
McCain:
100% x 8.8M = 8.8M
23% x 16.0M = 3.7M
That equates to 28M votes for Obama and 12M votes for McCain.
Do the math?... I just did.
Math
:thud:
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 15:06:31
capt on 06/27/2008 15:06:31
Comment by clintster on 06/27/2008 15:08:16
clintster on 06/27/2008 15:08:16
OK, so now the SMSLB is back up and I find out that Vicki Lawrence is coming on in the third hour? Hmmm... no mention of Fridees with Frangela. I guess they're saving up for next week's guest-hosting duties.
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 15:08:43
TriSec on 06/27/2008 15:08:43
No disparagement meant, sir Bob. I know and believe your current election theory; there's really no way that McCain can win other than outright theft.
Comment by 
Random on 06/27/2008 15:09:33
Random on 06/27/2008 15:09:33
...Hows my fav Blog...
Miss me?
Miss me?
Comment by clintster on 06/27/2008 15:11:11
But of course. Hail Random!
clintster on 06/27/2008 15:11:11
Quote by Random:
...Hows my fav Blog...
Miss me?
But of course. Hail Random!
Comment by Random on 06/27/2008 15:12:25
No smoting for you Clinster...
*tosses cookie*
Random on 06/27/2008 15:12:25
Quote by clintster:Quote by Random:
...Hows my fav Blog...
Miss me?
But of course. Hail Random!
No smoting for you Clinster...
*tosses cookie*
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 15:12:27
capt on 06/27/2008 15:12:27
Comment by Scoopster on 06/27/2008 15:13:05
Scoopster on 06/27/2008 15:13:05
Hiedy-ho Random! How's the life?
Comment by Random on 06/27/2008 15:14:28
Painful...
Tooth-ache.
Random on 06/27/2008 15:14:28
Quote by Scoopster:
Hiedy-ho Random! How's the life?
Painful...
Tooth-ache.
Comment by clintster on 06/27/2008 15:15:11
clintster on 06/27/2008 15:15:11
Comment by Random on 06/27/2008 15:16:29
Sooo cute
Random on 06/27/2008 15:16:29
Quote by clintster:
Sooo cute
Comment by clintster on 06/27/2008 15:17:24
clintster on 06/27/2008 15:17:24
Apparently the Swedish kid is a fan of Operation ARROWHEAD RIPPERRRRRRRRR!!!!
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 15:17:47
TriSec on 06/27/2008 15:17:47
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 15:17:47
livingonli on 06/27/2008 15:17:47
I missed you Random. 
OK, I just talked to the insurance guy and my car's value is so low I wouldn't even get enough money for a deposit so getting another car is kind of out of the option. I may just have to replace the mirror that came off and live with the damage until I get enough money (or hit the jackpot).
Since I'm going to Vegas next month for vacation I could use some lucky vibes from anyone who thinks they can give me luck because I sure need it.
OK, I just talked to the insurance guy and my car's value is so low I wouldn't even get enough money for a deposit so getting another car is kind of out of the option. I may just have to replace the mirror that came off and live with the damage until I get enough money (or hit the jackpot).
Since I'm going to Vegas next month for vacation I could use some lucky vibes from anyone who thinks they can give me luck because I sure need it.
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 15:18:37
Tossed RAndom a Darvocet...
Raine on 06/27/2008 15:18:37
Quote by Random:Quote by Scoopster:
Hiedy-ho Random! How's the life?
Painful...
Tooth-ache.
Tossed RAndom a Darvocet...
Comment by m-hadley on 06/27/2008 15:19:28
m-hadley on 06/27/2008 15:19:28
File under the category of "too little, too late," but there seems to be some confusion on the Live blog about whose birthday is today. It is Ross Perot's birthday - NOT the loverly and fair Rebekah - whose birthday is in October, I believe Just fyi...
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Just fyi...Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by Shane-O on 06/27/2008 15:21:05
Shane-O on 06/27/2008 15:21:05
Random - I did an audicon for you - for your entrances:
Rather than the old "Random has returned" or the "Random has arrived"
Rather than the old "Random has returned" or the "Random has arrived"
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 15:22:04
He's got the spreadsheet, slide rule and abbacus to prove it. (pocket protector too! )
Seriously, that is serious math there Bobber. I can see why you took so long to get in the show, er finish making breakfast.
Raine on 06/27/2008 15:22:04
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
So...using BobMath™, that leaves 77% of Hilary supporters that will vote for Barack, plus 100% of Sen. Obama's original supporters.
The question is, does that 177% of Democrats beat the 19% of Republicans that want a third term for Bush?
please - do not disparage BobMath™ with such obvious mistakes.
Assuming the Democratic voters were split 50/50 between Obama and Clinton we have:
50% Obama x 100% = 50%
50% Clinton x 77% = 38.5%
====================
TOTAL = 88.5%
Considering ONLY the popular vote in the primaries, and ONLY for non-caucus states (which are the only ones for which we have accurate counts), and leaving off the last few states (because I am too lazy to look them up and update my spreadsheet):
Obama:
100% x 15.7M = 15.7M
77% x 16.0M = 12.3M
McCain:
100% x 8.8M = 8.8M
23% x 16.0M = 3.7M
That equates to 28M votes for Obama and 12M votes for McCain.
Do the math?... I just did.
Math
)Seriously, that is serious math there Bobber.
I can see why you took so long to
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 15:24:29
Perfect !!!
Raine on 06/27/2008 15:24:29
Quote by Shane-O:
Random - I did an audicon for you - for your entrances:
Rather than the old "Random has returned" or the "Random has arrived"
Perfect !!!
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 15:24:35
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 15:24:35
Liv - at least the car is driveable. Had to replace my side mirror once only cost like $50 so it wasn't too horrible. Start putting money aside so you can get a good reliable car with good gas mileage.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 15:25:57
:spit: :rofl:
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 15:25:57
Quote by Shane-O:
Random - I did an audicon for you - for your entrances:
Rather than the old "Random has returned" or the "Random has arrived"
:spit: :rofl:
Comment by clintster on 06/27/2008 15:26:42
clintster on 06/27/2008 15:26:42
Does anyone know/remember the last time Steph und Das Mooken did a show on the road?
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 15:26:56
Raine on 06/27/2008 15:26:56
I saw this mini me thing on KO last night/
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 15:27:45
:takes notes:
livingonli on 06/27/2008 15:27:45
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Shane-O:
Random - I did an audicon for you - for your entrances:
Rather than the old "Random has returned" or the "Random has arrived"
:spit: :rofl:
:takes notes:
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 15:28:44
have they ever done a show on the road? I know they have done night shows, but I don't think a show, on aor.
Raine on 06/27/2008 15:28:44
Quote by clintster:
Does anyone know/remember the last time Steph und Das Mooken did a show on the road?
have they ever done a show on the road? I know they have done night shows, but I don't think a show, on aor.
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 15:29:32
TriSec on 06/27/2008 15:29:32
Say Livin, an Athenista just reported some TSA-Theft here at Logan. I'd imagine you're flying to Vegas....take care of your stuff.
Taking. Something. Always.
That's what TSA means to airline passengers like Edward Fleiss, a sales manager from Huntington, N.Y. When screeners inspected his wife's carry-on bag at New York's John F. Kennedy Airport recently, he claims her designer eyeglasses were swiped.
"Great sleight of hand," he says. "We didn't even know they were gone until we got to Los Angeles."
Letters to the Transportation Security Administration — that's what TSA actually stands for, in case you were wondering — were met with a form response. "Dear traveler, thank you, but no reimbursement on a $500 pair of glasses," he recalls.
Thieving TSA? You might be forgiven for thinking so.
Since it was created in 2001, the agency has fired about 200 employees accused of stealing. Although the TSA has taken steps to discourage these government workers from helping themselves to our personal effects — including background checks on new hires, video cameras in screening areas and rules forbidding backpacks or lunchboxes at checkpoints — more and more passengers like Fleiss are coming forward to say they've been ripped off by the very people who are supposed to protect them.
It doesn't help that hardly a week goes by without another story about alleged TSA pilferage making headlines. Here's one from a Miami TV station, where 1,500 items (www.nbc6.net/news/15617249/detail.html) have been reported stolen at the airport since 2003. Here's someone who had his engagement ring filched (www.gadling.com/2008/01/08/engagement-ring-allegedly-stolen-by-lax-airport-security/) by screeners in Los Angeles. Here's another one involving a 12-year-old's heartbreaking loss (http://cbs13.com/seenon/Call.Kurtis.Consumer.2.464401.html) of $265 in birthday money.
You don't need a travel columnist to tell you this agency has a problem. The evidence speaks for itself.
Continued...
Taking. Something. Always.
That's what TSA means to airline passengers like Edward Fleiss, a sales manager from Huntington, N.Y. When screeners inspected his wife's carry-on bag at New York's John F. Kennedy Airport recently, he claims her designer eyeglasses were swiped.
"Great sleight of hand," he says. "We didn't even know they were gone until we got to Los Angeles."
Letters to the Transportation Security Administration — that's what TSA actually stands for, in case you were wondering — were met with a form response. "Dear traveler, thank you, but no reimbursement on a $500 pair of glasses," he recalls.
Thieving TSA? You might be forgiven for thinking so.
Since it was created in 2001, the agency has fired about 200 employees accused of stealing. Although the TSA has taken steps to discourage these government workers from helping themselves to our personal effects — including background checks on new hires, video cameras in screening areas and rules forbidding backpacks or lunchboxes at checkpoints — more and more passengers like Fleiss are coming forward to say they've been ripped off by the very people who are supposed to protect them.
It doesn't help that hardly a week goes by without another story about alleged TSA pilferage making headlines. Here's one from a Miami TV station, where 1,500 items (www.nbc6.net/news/15617249/detail.html) have been reported stolen at the airport since 2003. Here's someone who had his engagement ring filched (www.gadling.com/2008/01/08/engagement-ring-allegedly-stolen-by-lax-airport-security/) by screeners in Los Angeles. Here's another one involving a 12-year-old's heartbreaking loss (http://cbs13.com/seenon/Call.Kurtis.Consumer.2.464401.html) of $265 in birthday money.
You don't need a travel columnist to tell you this agency has a problem. The evidence speaks for itself.
Continued...
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 15:32:06
livingonli on 06/27/2008 15:32:06
Last time I went to Vegas I had my luggage inspected and I came home to find I didn't find my blood sugar tester. Good thing my insurance allowed me to get a replacement for free but I lost all those numbers.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 15:36:27
: scanning blog: This was a constant discussion with Mrs Mondo and I. We never got how people could think that the song is romantic. Personally I think it has something to do with people focusing on the chorus and verses. When you do that the context of a song changes totally. Commercials do this all the time when they use well know popular songs. Wrangler jeans used the chorus of CCR's "Fortunate Son" in commercial. I thought this was hilarious since the song is about working class and poor people being drafted and sent to Viet Nam.
: continues scanning:
Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 15:36:27
Quote by wickedpam:
Every Breath you Take - Police - that's just a creepy song I don't get how people think that's romantic
: scanning blog: This was a constant discussion with Mrs Mondo and I. We never got how people could think that the song is romantic. Personally I think it has something to do with people focusing on the chorus and verses. When you do that the context of a song changes totally. Commercials do this all the time when they use well know popular songs. Wrangler jeans used the chorus of CCR's "Fortunate Son" in commercial. I thought this was hilarious since the song is about working class and poor people being drafted and sent to Viet Nam.
: continues scanning:
Comment by BobR on 06/27/2008 15:36:49
If you have to check a bag, you can buy TSA-approved locks that can be opened by TSA if necessary. That way if anything is taken, you know it was one of them that took it, and not a baggage handler (as if that matters).
You can also take pictures of the stuff in your bags as evidence.
Again - don't know what good it will do if something goes missing...
BobR on 06/27/2008 15:36:49
Quote by livingonli:
Last time I went to Vegas I had my luggage inspected and I came home to find I didn't find my blood sugar tester. Good thing my insurance allowed me to get a replacement for free but I lost all those numbers.
If you have to check a bag, you can buy TSA-approved locks that can be opened by TSA if necessary. That way if anything is taken, you know it was one of them that took it, and not a baggage handler (as if that matters).
You can also take pictures of the stuff in your bags as evidence.
Again - don't know what good it will do if something goes missing...
Comment by Shane-O on 06/27/2008 15:37:15
This one would have been out of bounds, I figured:
Shane-O on 06/27/2008 15:37:15
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Shane-O:
Random - I did an audicon for you - for your entrances:
Rather than the old "Random has returned" or the "Random has arrived"
:spit: :rofl:
:takes notes:
Comment by BobR on 06/27/2008 15:39:21
the MOST aggregious example of this of course is using the chorus of Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" as a patriotic refrain when the song is a withering critique of America.
BobR on 06/27/2008 15:39:21
Quote by Mondobubba:
: scanning blog: This was a constant discussion with Mrs Mondo and I. We never got how people could think that the song is romantic. Personally I think it has something to do with people focusing on the chorus and verses. When you do that the context of a song changes totally. Commercials do this all the time when they use well know popular songs. Wrangler jeans used the chorus of CCR's "Fortunate Son" in commercial. I thought this was hilarious since the song is about working class and poor people being drafted and sent to Viet Nam.
: continues scanning:
the MOST aggregious example of this of course is using the chorus of Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" as a patriotic refrain when the song is a withering critique of America.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 15:39:32
Any excuse to have Michael Musto on the show! :rofl:
Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 15:39:32
Quote by Raine:
I saw this mini me thing on KO last night/
Any excuse to have Michael Musto on the show! :rofl:
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 15:39:47
Raine on 06/27/2008 15:39:47
:screech: nancy grace?
Heya does anyone remember the early days of AAR, was there some drama with Vicki Lawrence at one point?
Heya does anyone remember the early days of AAR, was there some drama with Vicki Lawrence at one point?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 15:40:10
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 15:40:10
When my wife did her annual trips to MS to visit her brother, she always sent her luggage ahead via UPS. Of course, it got shipped to her brother's house and she made sure she sent it out some good time in advance, but I didn't mind spending the extra to get it there.
When she used to fly Northwest Disorient her luggage would get to Logan before she did, because the luggage went a different flight.
When she used to fly Northwest Disorient her luggage would get to Logan before she did, because the luggage went a different flight.
Comment by BobR on 06/27/2008 15:40:42
It's certainly grating on the ears... :wacko:
BobR on 06/27/2008 15:40:42
Quote by Shane-O:
This one would have been out of bounds, I figured:
It's certainly grating on the ears... :wacko:
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 15:41:39
Love La Dolce Musto.
Good morning dahlink!
Raine on 06/27/2008 15:41:39
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
I saw this mini me thing on KO last night/
Any excuse to have Michael Musto on the show! :rofl:
Love La Dolce Musto.
Good morning dahlink!
Comment by BobR on 06/27/2008 15:42:15
BobR on 06/27/2008 15:42:15
Chris: Rum comes in clear, light, and dark (even from Bicardi). The darker varieties have a better flavor.
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 15:44:40
BINGO! I dunno if what were are discussing is an important part of marketing and advertising theory or not, but cheesus, if you spend any bit of time listening to music and pay attention to the lyrics you get the impression that either marketing people are either really stupid or they have contempt for the intelligence of the target audience.
Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 15:44:40
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
: scanning blog: This was a constant discussion with Mrs Mondo and I. We never got how people could think that the song is romantic. Personally I think it has something to do with people focusing on the chorus and verses. When you do that the context of a song changes totally. Commercials do this all the time when they use well know popular songs. Wrangler jeans used the chorus of CCR's "Fortunate Son" in commercial. I thought this was hilarious since the song is about working class and poor people being drafted and sent to Viet Nam.
: continues scanning:
the MOST aggregious example of this of course is using the chorus of Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" as a patriotic refrain when the song is a withering critique of America.
BINGO! I dunno if what were are discussing is an important part of marketing and advertising theory or not, but cheesus, if you spend any bit of time listening to music and pay attention to the lyrics you get the impression that either marketing people are either really stupid or they have contempt for the intelligence of the target audience.
Comment by Shane-O on 06/27/2008 15:45:41
Sorry! -- It's hard to get a quality recording of the trumpet fanfare from the old Rocky and Bullwinkle Show - best I could do... :(
Shane-O on 06/27/2008 15:45:41
Quote by BobR:Quote by Shane-O:
This one would have been out of bounds, I figured:
It's certainly grating on the ears... :wacko:
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 15:49:07
Good morning to you as well dahlink! KO did say is was a story his producers forced him to report on. :shurg:
: note to self when wearing my sleep eye shade always, always set an alarm! :wacko:
Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 15:49:07
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
I saw this mini me thing on KO last night/
Any excuse to have Michael Musto on the show! :rofl:
Love La Dolce Musto.
Good morning dahlink!
Good morning to you as well dahlink! KO did say is was a story his producers forced him to report on. :shurg:
: note to self when wearing my sleep eye shade always, always set an alarm! :wacko:
Comment by m-hadley on 06/27/2008 15:50:14
m-hadley on 06/27/2008 15:50:14
Howdee Mondo, Raine, BobR, Sir Random, Shane-O , TriSec, and Trojan,
How's it hangin' this Fridee mornin'?
Good I hope - I'll be hitting the road next Thursday for my annual pilgrimage to Jamestown, Indiana (on purpose) for the 4th of July family get-together (the 4th is also my Mom's b-day :D) Can't wait to fill up the tank at these gas prices :(
Happee Weekend Everybodee :hug:
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
How's it hangin' this Fridee mornin'?
Good I hope - I'll be hitting the road next Thursday for my annual pilgrimage to Jamestown, Indiana (on purpose) for the 4th of July family get-together (the 4th is also my Mom's b-day :D) Can't wait to fill up the tank at these gas prices :(
Happee Weekend Everybodee
:hug:Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 15:52:55
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 15:52:55
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 15:57:23
: still scanning: :extends pinky: Well when men keep telling women this is six inches...
Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 15:57:23
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
1. Ya know that 2.5B going to 32,000 would have giving each of those people 7Mil if I did my math right. When it comes to awarding damages 7mil for the person hurt was not a crazy out of control number.
Actually, that works out to $78,125 per person. Post-decision that drops to $15,625 per person.
EDIT: minus lawyer's fees, of course...
oops
Reason number 512 of why I was an English major.
: still scanning: :extends pinky: Well when men keep telling women this is six inches...
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 15:58:37
I liked it.
Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a rabbit out of a hat?
Again!?
livingonli on 06/27/2008 15:58:37
Quote by Shane-O:Sorry! -- It's hard to get a quality recording of the trumpet fanfare from the old Rocky and Bullwinkle Show - best I could do... :(Quote by BobR:Quote by Shane-O:
This one would have been out of bounds, I figured:
It's certainly grating on the ears... :wacko:
I liked it.
Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a rabbit out of a hat?
Again!?
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 15:59:47
I must say that we came this close to taking a road trip to Iowa city. But we just don't have the moola ... Faye, if you are going to see family, don't forget you got our phone numbers! we are here for you at all times! :D
Raine on 06/27/2008 15:59:47
Quote by m-hadley:
Howdee Mondo, Raine, BobR, Sir Random, Shane-O , TriSec, and Trojan,
How's it hangin' this Fridee mornin'?
Good I hope - I'll be hitting the road next Thursday for my annual pilgrimage to Jamestown, Indiana (on purpose) for the 4th of July family get-together (the 4th is also my Mom's b-day :D) Can't wait to fill up the tank at these gas prices :(
Happee Weekend Everybodee
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by m-hadley on 06/27/2008 16:01:30
Mala,
I'd bet money that one of them is Jim " I hate the f*ckin' troops" Inhofe - I hate that man
:bad:
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 06/27/2008 16:01:30
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
GI bill passes in Senate with LANDSLIDE... 92-6!
who are the 6?
Mala,
I'd bet money that one of them is Jim " I hate the f*ckin' troops" Inhofe - I hate that man
:bad:Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 16:06:40
Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 16:06:40
You there is some unintentional hilarity generated by the Facebook mosheen. Por ejemplo, "Mondo has bought a bush for his double trailer. Click here to see Mondo's bush." :rofl:
Comment by m-hadley on 06/27/2008 16:11:46
Mala & Others,
My bad - I guess I lost that bet. Inhofe voted for the bill, but the other a**wipe senator from Oklahoma (Tom "abortionists should die" Coburn voted against the bill) Here's the low-down:
Allard (R-CO)
Coburn (R-OK)
Craig (R-ID) Mr. Wide-stance says no to the troops :)
DeMint (R-SC)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Not Voting - 2
Kennedy (D-MA)
McCain (R-AZ) Mr. I love the troops so much I can't even show up to support them!
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
m-hadley on 06/27/2008 16:11:46
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
GI bill passes in Senate with LANDSLIDE... 92-6!
who are the 6?
Mala,
I'd bet money that one of them is Jim " I hate the f*ckin' troops" Inhofe - I hate that man
Cheers,
mfaye
Mala & Others,
My bad - I guess I lost that bet. Inhofe voted for the bill, but the other a**wipe senator from Oklahoma (Tom "abortionists should die" Coburn voted against the bill) Here's the low-down:
Allard (R-CO)
Coburn (R-OK)
Craig (R-ID) Mr. Wide-stance says no to the troops :)
DeMint (R-SC)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Not Voting - 2
Kennedy (D-MA)
McCain (R-AZ) Mr. I love the troops so much I can't even show up to support them!
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 16:14:09
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 16:14:09
Amazing it was all Repubs except Kenndy who's out sick.
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 16:15:56
It looks like it's largely the real hard right whack jobs since even many Republicans voted for this and McCain is afraid to vote on this issue. At least Kennedy has an excuse for not voting and he would have voted yes if he could have been there.
livingonli on 06/27/2008 16:15:56
Mala & Others,
My bad - I guess I lost that bet. Inhofe voted for the bill, but the other a**wipe senator from Oklahoma (Tom "abortionists should die" Coburn voted against the bill) Here's the low-down:
Allard (R-CO)
Coburn (R-OK)
Craig (R-ID) Mr. Wide-stance says no to the troops
DeMint (R-SC)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Not Voting - 2
Kennedy (D-MA)
McCain (R-AZ) Mr. I love the troops so much I can't even show up to support them!
Cheers,
mfaye
It looks like it's largely the real hard right whack jobs since even many Republicans voted for this and McCain is afraid to vote on this issue. At least Kennedy has an excuse for not voting and he would have voted yes if he could have been there.
Comment by m-hadley on 06/27/2008 16:20:22
Thanks mucho Raine,
I loves yous guys. Shouldn't be too bad, I'll only be there Friday and Saturday -heading home on Sunday morning - so I don't have to go to church with my Mom
But the traumatic part of the trip is that I am leaving my boyz (doggies) at my folks place in Jamestown for summer camp - my folks live on a farm 160+ acres so the boyz can run wild, but I will surely miss them, especially at night - they sleep with me - I guess Momma is not the only freak who sleeps with her pets I'll pick them up at the end of July - another road trip - ugh !
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
m-hadley on 06/27/2008 16:20:22
Quote by Raine:I must say that we came this close to taking a road trip to Iowa city. But we just don't have the moola ... Faye, if you are going to see family, don't forget you got our phone numbers! we are here for you at all times! :DQuote by m-hadley:
Howdee Mondo, Raine, BobR, Sir Random, Shane-O , TriSec, and Trojan,
How's it hangin' this Fridee mornin'?
Good I hope - I'll be hitting the road next Thursday for my annual pilgrimage to Jamestown, Indiana (on purpose) for the 4th of July family get-together (the 4th is also my Mom's b-day :D) Can't wait to fill up the tank at these gas prices :(
Happee Weekend Everybodee
Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Thanks mucho Raine,
I loves yous guys. Shouldn't be too bad, I'll only be there Friday and Saturday -heading home on Sunday morning - so I don't have to go to church with my Mom
But the traumatic part of the trip is that I am leaving my boyz (doggies) at my folks place in Jamestown for summer camp - my folks live on a farm 160+ acres so the boyz can run wild, but I will surely miss them, especially at night - they sleep with me - I guess Momma is not the only freak who sleeps with her pets I'll pick them up at the end of July - another road trip - ugh !Cheers,
mfaye
:heart:
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 16:26:42
livingonli on 06/27/2008 16:26:42
mfaye, sounds like you're heading on the highway looking for adventure.
Comment by m-hadley on 06/27/2008 16:31:35
Livin,
I may be a lowly radical militant librarian, but I was Born to be wild... :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
m-hadley on 06/27/2008 16:31:35
Quote by livingonli:
mfaye, sounds like you're heading on the highway looking for adventure.
Livin,
I may be a lowly radical militant librarian, but I was Born to be wild... :D
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 16:33:15
Raine on 06/27/2008 16:33:15
For the WAr spending bill, and thus the GI bill... look at who woted and who did not and how they did. (Kennedy get's a pass, of course)
Alabama
Sessions ® Yes; Shelby ® Yes.
Alaska
Murkowski ® Yes; Stevens ® Yes.
Arizona
Kyl ® No; McCain ® Not Voting.
Arkansas
Lincoln (D) Yes; Pryor (D) Yes.
California
Boxer (D) Yes; Feinstein (D) Yes.
Colorado
Allard ® No; Salazar (D) Yes.
Connecticut
Dodd (D) Yes; Lieberman (I) Yes.
Delaware
Biden (D) Yes; Carper (D) Yes.
Florida
Martinez ® Yes; Nelson (D) Yes.
Georgia
Chambliss ® Yes; Isakson ® Yes.
Hawaii
Akaka (D) Yes; Inouye (D) Yes.
Idaho
Craig ® No; Crapo ® Yes.
Illinois
Durbin (D) Yes; Obama (D) Yes.
Indiana
Bayh (D) Yes; Lugar ® Yes.
Iowa
Grassley ® Yes; Harkin (D) Yes.
Kansas
Brownback ® Yes; Roberts ® Yes.
Kentucky
Bunning ® Yes; McConnell ® Yes.
Louisiana
Landrieu (D) Yes; Vitter ® Yes.
Maine
Collins ® Yes; Snowe ® Yes.
Maryland
Cardin (D) Yes; Mikulski (D) Yes.
Massachusetts
Kennedy (D) Not Voting; Kerry (D) Yes.
Michigan
Levin (D) Yes; Stabenow (D) Yes.
Minnesota
Coleman ® Yes; Klobuchar (D) Yes.
Mississippi
Cochran ® Yes; Wicker ® Yes.
Missouri
Bond ® Yes; McCaskill (D) Yes.
Montana
Baucus (D) Yes; Tester (D) Yes.
Nebraska
Hagel ® Yes; Nelson (D) Yes.
Nevada
Ensign ® Yes; Reid (D) Yes.
New Hampshire
Gregg ® Yes; Sununu ® Yes.
New Jersey
Lautenberg (D) Yes; Menendez (D) Yes.
New Mexico
Bingaman (D) Yes; Domenici ® Yes.
New York
Clinton (D) Yes; Schumer (D) Yes.
North Carolina
Burr ® Yes; Dole ® Yes.
North Dakota
Conrad (D) Yes; Dorgan (D) Yes.
Ohio
Brown (D) Yes; Voinovich ® No.
Oklahoma
Coburn ® No; Inhofe ® Yes.
Oregon
Smith ® Yes; Wyden (D) Yes.
Pennsylvania
Casey (D) Yes; Specter ® Yes.
Rhode Island
Reed (D) Yes; Whitehouse (D) Yes.
South Carolina
DeMint ® No; Graham ® Yes.
South Dakota
Johnson (D) Yes; Thune ® Yes.
Tennessee
Alexander ® Yes; Corker ® Yes.
Texas
Cornyn ® Yes; Hutchison ® Yes.
Utah
Bennett ® Yes; Hatch ® Yes.
Vermont
Leahy (D) Yes; Sanders (I) Yes.
Virginia
Warner ® Yes; Webb (D) Yes.
Washington
Cantwell (D) Yes; Murray (D) Yes.
West Virginia
Byrd (D) Yes; Rockefeller (D) Yes.
Wisconsin
Feingold (D) Yes; Kohl (D) Yes.
Wyoming
Barrasso ® Yes; Enzi ® Yes.
=========================================
McCain could not even bother to vote.
Alabama
Sessions ® Yes; Shelby ® Yes.
Alaska
Murkowski ® Yes; Stevens ® Yes.
Arizona
Kyl ® No; McCain ® Not Voting.
Arkansas
Lincoln (D) Yes; Pryor (D) Yes.
California
Boxer (D) Yes; Feinstein (D) Yes.
Colorado
Allard ® No; Salazar (D) Yes.
Connecticut
Dodd (D) Yes; Lieberman (I) Yes.
Delaware
Biden (D) Yes; Carper (D) Yes.
Florida
Martinez ® Yes; Nelson (D) Yes.
Georgia
Chambliss ® Yes; Isakson ® Yes.
Hawaii
Akaka (D) Yes; Inouye (D) Yes.
Idaho
Craig ® No; Crapo ® Yes.
Illinois
Durbin (D) Yes; Obama (D) Yes.
Indiana
Bayh (D) Yes; Lugar ® Yes.
Iowa
Grassley ® Yes; Harkin (D) Yes.
Kansas
Brownback ® Yes; Roberts ® Yes.
Kentucky
Bunning ® Yes; McConnell ® Yes.
Louisiana
Landrieu (D) Yes; Vitter ® Yes.
Maine
Collins ® Yes; Snowe ® Yes.
Maryland
Cardin (D) Yes; Mikulski (D) Yes.
Massachusetts
Kennedy (D) Not Voting; Kerry (D) Yes.
Michigan
Levin (D) Yes; Stabenow (D) Yes.
Minnesota
Coleman ® Yes; Klobuchar (D) Yes.
Mississippi
Cochran ® Yes; Wicker ® Yes.
Missouri
Bond ® Yes; McCaskill (D) Yes.
Montana
Baucus (D) Yes; Tester (D) Yes.
Nebraska
Hagel ® Yes; Nelson (D) Yes.
Nevada
Ensign ® Yes; Reid (D) Yes.
New Hampshire
Gregg ® Yes; Sununu ® Yes.
New Jersey
Lautenberg (D) Yes; Menendez (D) Yes.
New Mexico
Bingaman (D) Yes; Domenici ® Yes.
New York
Clinton (D) Yes; Schumer (D) Yes.
North Carolina
Burr ® Yes; Dole ® Yes.
North Dakota
Conrad (D) Yes; Dorgan (D) Yes.
Ohio
Brown (D) Yes; Voinovich ® No.
Oklahoma
Coburn ® No; Inhofe ® Yes.
Oregon
Smith ® Yes; Wyden (D) Yes.
Pennsylvania
Casey (D) Yes; Specter ® Yes.
Rhode Island
Reed (D) Yes; Whitehouse (D) Yes.
South Carolina
DeMint ® No; Graham ® Yes.
South Dakota
Johnson (D) Yes; Thune ® Yes.
Tennessee
Alexander ® Yes; Corker ® Yes.
Texas
Cornyn ® Yes; Hutchison ® Yes.
Utah
Bennett ® Yes; Hatch ® Yes.
Vermont
Leahy (D) Yes; Sanders (I) Yes.
Virginia
Warner ® Yes; Webb (D) Yes.
Washington
Cantwell (D) Yes; Murray (D) Yes.
West Virginia
Byrd (D) Yes; Rockefeller (D) Yes.
Wisconsin
Feingold (D) Yes; Kohl (D) Yes.
Wyoming
Barrasso ® Yes; Enzi ® Yes.
=========================================
McCain could not even bother to vote.
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 16:38:13
Raine on 06/27/2008 16:38:13
Faye beat me to the roll call! CAn you believe that that f*ck head McCain could not be bothered to show the hell up for the friggin vote??
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 16:40:35
Raine on 06/27/2008 16:40:35
So 2 senators senators did not vote.
And McCain voting record is worse than Tim Johnson.
And McCain voting record is worse than Tim Johnson.
Comment by Scoopster on 06/27/2008 16:42:31
Scoopster on 06/27/2008 16:42:31
I believe the common thread here is that all those twits who voted no, with the exception of Craig, are not up for re-election this year.
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 16:43:17
TriSec on 06/27/2008 16:43:17
Crap, I bet that hurt the good Senator from Massachusetts to miss this vote. But, out of all of them, I believe he has the only legitimate excuse.
Way to go, Senator McCain! Sure hope Obama makes hay with that one. IAVA and all the other veteran's groups, too.
Way to go, Senator McCain! Sure hope Obama makes hay with that one. IAVA and all the other veteran's groups, too.
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 16:49:27
TriSec on 06/27/2008 16:49:27
Tee Hee (pleasant laugh). I just emailed Senator McCain about his failure to cast a vote.
I was respectful, of course!
It's fun!!!
I was respectful, of course!
It's fun!!!
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 16:55:44
Raine on 06/27/2008 16:55:44
Bernie sounded pretty pissed about McCain not even showing up...
Heya McCain.... may karma find a special place for you and your 100% disability check that you take from those who TRULY need it, and all the benefits you recieved. you F*CKER.
Heya McCain....
may karma find a special place for you and your 100% disability check that you take from those who TRULY need it, and all the benefits you recieved. you F*CKER.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 17:03:26
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 17:03:26
Oh boy! It looks like "Radio Quail Hill" is awaiting me for when I get home from work. I guess that's what I'm going to call the station once it gets up and running. I only intend to use it when I'm playing with my antique radios.
I figure it will take about a week to build it and get it tuned up, just in time for its first "broadcast", Mama returning to the SMS (unfortunately delayed), playing on a radio older than she is.
I figure it will take about a week to build it and get it tuned up, just in time for its first "broadcast", Mama returning to the SMS (unfortunately delayed), playing on a radio older than she is.
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 17:07:04
So I need to move really, really, close to your house in order to pick this up?
:kickcan:
Unless you're in a better neighborhood, of course!
TriSec on 06/27/2008 17:07:04
Expect about 50 to 200 feet range, depending on local conditions, with the standard wire antenna.
So I need to move really, really, close to your house in order to pick this up?
:kickcan:
Unless you're in a better neighborhood, of course!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 17:19:21
Unfortunately, yes. But, of course, that's why it's unlicensed.
Hate playing with my radios when the only thing it will pick up is sports or right-wing trash.
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 17:19:21
Quote by TriSec:
Expect about 50 to 200 feet range, depending on local conditions, with the standard wire antenna.
So I need to move really, really, close to your house in order to pick this up?
:kickcan:
Unless you're in a better neighborhood, of course!
Unfortunately, yes. But, of course, that's why it's unlicensed.
Hate playing with my radios when the only thing it will pick up is sports or right-wing trash.
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 17:19:31
TriSec on 06/27/2008 17:19:31
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 17:22:12
that looks like a lot of FUN!
Raine on 06/27/2008 17:22:12
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Oh boy! It looks like "Radio Quail Hill" is awaiting me for when I get home from work. I guess that's what I'm going to call the station once it gets up and running. I only intend to use it when I'm playing with my antique radios.
I figure it will take about a week to build it and get it tuned up, just in time for its first "broadcast", Mama returning to the SMS (unfortunately delayed), playing on a radio older than she is.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/27/2008 17:22:36
IzzyBitz on 06/27/2008 17:22:36
Happy Fridee Everyone!
:shocked: Dianne Feinstein actually did something right! I'm sure it's only because she didn't want to catch any sh*t from the peoples, although it has never stopped her before. She still needs to go though. Meh.
:shocked: Dianne Feinstein actually did something right! I'm sure it's only because she didn't want to catch any sh*t from the peoples, although it has never stopped her before. She still needs to go though. Meh.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 17:28:51
Our group at work got a tour of the brand new WCVB HD studio a few months back - even got to stand in the studio (on the Chronicle set) as Susan Wornick and J.C. Monahan did the Noon News. No more "cameramen" in the studio - all robots with one guy to make sure everything moves as it should. Had a nice chat with J.C and Susan afterwards.
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 17:28:51
Quote by TriSec:
Some more thunder coming....
And I just loooooooove WCVB's new weather crack!
Our group at work got a tour of the brand new WCVB HD studio a few months back - even got to stand in the studio (on the Chronicle set) as Susan Wornick and J.C. Monahan did the Noon News. No more "cameramen" in the studio - all robots with one guy to make sure everything moves as it should. Had a nice chat with J.C and Susan afterwards.
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 17:31:03
TriSec on 06/27/2008 17:31:03
McCain compares energy independence to the 'race for the moon', also channels JFK.
In a new TV ad launched today, Republican John McCain compares his plan to make the country energy independent by 2025 to the President John F. Kennedy's race to the moon.
McCain has been on the hustings for days now, promoting his proposals for conservation, offshore oil drilling, nuclear power, and other initiatives to wean America off foreign oil. He calls it the "Lexington Project," a reference to the Revolutionary War battle in Massachusetts. At the same time, he has been deriding Democrat Barack Obama as "Dr. No" -- opposed to any major plan for energy independence, though Obama is pushing a plan to invest $150 billion over 10 years on alternative energy.
"American technology protected the world," the announcer says in the ad, which is to air on national cable and in undisclosed battleground states. "We went to the moon, not because it was easy, but because it was hard.
"John McCain will call America to our next national purpose: Energy Security," the narrator continues. "A comprehensive bipartisan plan to: Lower prices at the pump. Reduce dependence on foreign oil through domestic drilling. And champion energy alternatives for better choices and lower costs. Putting country first. McCain."
Trying to appeal to independent voters, the ad never mentions that McCain is a Republican and highlights his bipartisan streak.
The hell of it is, he may be right. We can do this, but it's going to take everyone working for the same goal. Without government interference and oil profiteering, of course.
In a new TV ad launched today, Republican John McCain compares his plan to make the country energy independent by 2025 to the President John F. Kennedy's race to the moon.
McCain has been on the hustings for days now, promoting his proposals for conservation, offshore oil drilling, nuclear power, and other initiatives to wean America off foreign oil. He calls it the "Lexington Project," a reference to the Revolutionary War battle in Massachusetts. At the same time, he has been deriding Democrat Barack Obama as "Dr. No" -- opposed to any major plan for energy independence, though Obama is pushing a plan to invest $150 billion over 10 years on alternative energy.
"American technology protected the world," the announcer says in the ad, which is to air on national cable and in undisclosed battleground states. "We went to the moon, not because it was easy, but because it was hard.
"John McCain will call America to our next national purpose: Energy Security," the narrator continues. "A comprehensive bipartisan plan to: Lower prices at the pump. Reduce dependence on foreign oil through domestic drilling. And champion energy alternatives for better choices and lower costs. Putting country first. McCain."
Trying to appeal to independent voters, the ad never mentions that McCain is a Republican and highlights his bipartisan streak.
The hell of it is, he may be right. We can do this, but it's going to take everyone working for the same goal. Without government interference and oil profiteering, of course.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 17:33:52
It's been a long time since I've built anything. It's one thing to work on the old stuff because the parts are so big and there's so much room that even if your eyes are bad and your hands are shaky you've got a chance. This new stuff - forget it. I chickened out and got the kit with the really small stuff already assembled.
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 17:33:52
Quote by Raine:that looks like a lot of FUN!Quote by trojanrabbit:
Oh boy! It looks like "Radio Quail Hill" is awaiting me for when I get home from work. I guess that's what I'm going to call the station once it gets up and running. I only intend to use it when I'm playing with my antique radios.
I figure it will take about a week to build it and get it tuned up, just in time for its first "broadcast", Mama returning to the SMS (unfortunately delayed), playing on a radio older than she is.
It's been a long time since I've built anything. It's one thing to work on the old stuff because the parts are so big and there's so much room that even if your eyes are bad and your hands are shaky you've got a chance. This new stuff - forget it. I chickened out and got the kit with the really small stuff already assembled.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 06/27/2008 17:35:51
IzzyBitz on 06/27/2008 17:35:51
Unity Rally on the TeeVee machine. 
Why do I always feel that Hillary has an ulterior motive?
Why do I always feel that Hillary has an ulterior motive?
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 17:37:40
TriSec on 06/27/2008 17:37:40
Listening to the scanner this afternoon...
There was an armed robbery on Moody Street (Waltham), and the police are busily looking for the suspects.
But what's really interesting is the report of a "young deer" being struck by a car on the fourth level of the parking garage....in Downtown Waltham.
There was an armed robbery on Moody Street (Waltham), and the police are busily looking for the suspects.
But what's really interesting is the report of a "young deer" being struck by a car on the fourth level of the parking garage....in Downtown Waltham.
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 17:51:58
Our News 12 channels have been using robo-cans for a couple of years now. It seems to become the standard in the industry with the hope that auromation will reduce the staffing needs so that they can get by on fewer people. Of course in some situations like where I work, keeping the staffing needs to a minimum has resulted in a few problems because when one person is sometimes covering two rooms which may create a situation should any problem arise.
I like the weather crack. It even extends all the way down to Long Island.
livingonli on 06/27/2008 17:51:58
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by TriSec:
Some more thunder coming....
And I just loooooooove WCVB's new weather crack!
Our group at work got a tour of the brand new WCVB HD studio a few months back - even got to stand in the studio (on the Chronicle set) as Susan Wornick and J.C. Monahan did the Noon News. No more "cameramen" in the studio - all robots with one guy to make sure everything moves as it should. Had a nice chat with J.C and Susan afterwards.
Our News 12 channels have been using robo-cans for a couple of years now. It seems to become the standard in the industry with the hope that auromation will reduce the staffing needs so that they can get by on fewer people. Of course in some situations like where I work, keeping the staffing needs to a minimum has resulted in a few problems because when one person is sometimes covering two rooms which may create a situation should any problem arise.
I like the weather crack. It even extends all the way down to Long Island.
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 18:04:51
TriSec on 06/27/2008 18:04:51
Wow....great day to have the scanner.
Lightning strike in Newtonville; possible house fire. Trees down in Watertown Square, blocking the sidewalk. Tree down on the Mass Pike (location unknown) blocking an exit ramp, reports coming in now of a MBTA Bus/Car collision due to the storm. Wires down all over the place, at least one transformer explosion, working fire in Bedford calling for mutual aid...
Ooof, what a squall!
Lightning strike in Newtonville; possible house fire. Trees down in Watertown Square, blocking the sidewalk. Tree down on the Mass Pike (location unknown) blocking an exit ramp, reports coming in now of a MBTA Bus/Car collision due to the storm. Wires down all over the place, at least one transformer explosion, working fire in Bedford calling for mutual aid...
Ooof, what a squall!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 18:18:01
That sucker just passed a few miles north of my place.
I'm sure the kitties were sensing some thunder.
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 18:18:01
Quote by TriSec:
Wow....great day to have the scanner.
Lightning strike in Newtonville; possible house fire. Trees down in Watertown Square, blocking the sidewalk. Tree down on the Mass Pike (location unknown) blocking an exit ramp, reports coming in now of a MBTA Bus/Car collision due to the storm. Wires down all over the place, at least one transformer explosion, working fire in Bedford calling for mutual aid...
Ooof, what a squall!
That sucker just passed a few miles north of my place.
I'm sure the kitties were sensing some thunder.
Comment by MMB on 06/27/2008 18:18:29
MMB on 06/27/2008 18:18:29
Happee Friday I know it's a little early but oh well im getting old the big 48 is Monday!!!!!!!! 
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 18:25:06
TriSec on 06/27/2008 18:25:06
Heh, now I'm getting reports of traffic lights out all over Boston...one in particular at Columbia Road and Melnea Cass Boulevard has caused "gridlock" through that section of the city...
Comment by Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 18:34:20
Mondobubba on 06/27/2008 18:34:20
Tis raining here now. Nice gentle rain at that. Ahhh relaxing.
This is for Raine. Effing Drama! Watching Vince, E and the Retards on Demand.
This is for Raine. Effing Drama!
Watching Vince, E and the Retards on Demand.
Comment by BobR on 06/27/2008 18:46:45
BobR on 06/27/2008 18:46:45
This is certainly going to result in some ribbing in the locker room: Detroit Tiger injured by pillow
:rofl:
:rofl:
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 18:56:17
livingonli on 06/27/2008 18:56:17
This weekend is the Subway series round 2 and it's threatening rain with the humidity all weekend.
Friday doubleheader to make up for last rain-out.
2 PM-WWOR/9 and SNY (at Yankee Stadium)
8 PM-WPIX/11 and YES (at Shea Stadium)
Saturday 3:30 PM-Fox
Sunday 1 PM- WPIX/11 and YES
Friday doubleheader to make up for last rain-out.
2 PM-WWOR/9 and SNY (at Yankee Stadium)
8 PM-WPIX/11 and YES (at Shea Stadium)
Saturday 3:30 PM-Fox
Sunday 1 PM- WPIX/11 and YES
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 18:57:38
capt on 06/27/2008 18:57:38
Many years ago I was in the hospital for an injury - the kid in full traction in the bed across from me was under 18, played HS football and was in good shape.
Well, he told everybody he was injured playing ball? The truth was he got up to change the channel (back before remotes were common) and his back went out.
Full traction . . . cables and weights - he was strung up the whole time I was there.
Well, he told everybody he was injured playing ball? The truth was he got up to change the channel (back before remotes were common) and his back went out.
Full traction . . . cables and weights - he was strung up the whole time I was there.
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 18:58:30
livingonli on 06/27/2008 18:58:30
Marc Maron is filling in for Thom Hartmann Monday.
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 19:10:43
It's Friday ya bastahds!!
:boobs:
:boobs2:
:martini:
:boobs2:
:boobs:
:boobs2:
:boobs2:
:boobs2:
:bounce:
:bounce: 
:bouncer:
:boobs2:
BOUNCE!
Raine on 06/27/2008 19:10:43
:boobs:
:boobs2:
:martini:
:boobs2:
:boobs:
:boobs2:
:boobs2: :boobs2:
:bounce:
:bounce:
:bouncer:
:boobs2:BOUNCE!
Comment by BobR on 06/27/2008 19:11:06
IT'S FRIDAY, YA BASTAHDS!!
:boobs2:
:bounce: :bounce:
:boobs:
:bouncer: :bouncer:
:penis:
:beer:
:bouncer: :bouncer:
:boobs:
:bounce: :bounce:
:boobs2:
BOUNCE!!!
BobR on 06/27/2008 19:11:06
IT'S FRIDAY, YA BASTAHDS!!
:boobs2:
:bounce:
:bounce::boobs:
:bouncer:
:bouncer::penis:
:beer:
:bouncer:
:bouncer::boobs:
:bounce:
:bounce::boobs2:
BOUNCE!!!
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 19:11:44
livingonli on 06/27/2008 19:11:44
I'm too bummed to bounce. 
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 19:13:35
capt on 06/27/2008 19:13:35
wadda matter liv? Why bummed?
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 19:15:51
capt on 06/27/2008 19:15:51
I wrote myself a $12 million dollar check . . . I can't find anybody to cash it.
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 19:16:38
TriSec on 06/27/2008 19:16:38
Oh, poop.
:bounce: :kickcan:
We're in a semi-crisis mode in these parts....there are several house fires, trees and wires down everywhere, traffic lights out across Metrowest, and general traffic chaos happening.
In my part of town, Mrs. TriSec reports traffic gridlock, two trees down in the neighborhood, and the FD onscene dealing with a downed wire.
:bounce: :kickcan:
We're in a semi-crisis mode in these parts....there are several house fires, trees and wires down everywhere, traffic lights out across Metrowest, and general traffic chaos happening.
In my part of town, Mrs. TriSec reports traffic gridlock, two trees down in the neighborhood, and the FD onscene dealing with a downed wire.
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 19:18:53
All the crap between the accident and the fact that my car's not worth money to get anything out of it. I've feel like I have been on a general streak of bad luck for the last 3 years which began just before I got laid off from my previous job in 2005.
livingonli on 06/27/2008 19:18:53
Quote by capt:
wadda matter liv? Why bummed?
All the crap between the accident and the fact that my car's not worth money to get anything out of it. I've feel like I have been on a general streak of bad luck for the last 3 years which began just before I got laid off from my previous job in 2005.
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 19:21:34
capt on 06/27/2008 19:21:34
liv,
I know it is a platitude but . . .
It's always darkest before the dawn.
A bad luck run is always followed by some good stuff. It is on the way. I'm sending all the positive vibes I have to you - right now..
na na na na na na na na na na
It is a time realease thingy so you won't feel it for a bit.
I know it is a platitude but . . .
It's always darkest before the dawn.
A bad luck run is always followed by some good stuff. It is on the way. I'm sending all the positive vibes I have to you - right now..
na na na na na na na na na na
It is a time realease thingy so you won't feel it for a bit.
Comment by wickedpam on 06/27/2008 19:35:04
wickedpam on 06/27/2008 19:35:04
Liv, sweetie, it's gonna be fine. After a while everyone's car isn't worth a whole lot. Your gonna be able to put some money aside for get a newer one.
As for the incident. It wasn't your fault. End of story. I know feel bad cause you were involved but those people were speeding and passing on the right, it was their own fault and they need to take responsibility for that. Accidents happen to everyone.
Sweetie, you are not alone out there just remember that. Capts right about the dark before dawn thing, just be open to the good stuff when it happens, okay. :hug:
As for the incident. It wasn't your fault. End of story. I know feel bad cause you were involved but those people were speeding and passing on the right, it was their own fault and they need to take responsibility for that. Accidents happen to everyone.
Sweetie, you are not alone out there just remember that. Capts right about the dark before dawn thing, just be open to the good stuff when it happens, okay. :hug:
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 19:36:16
Raine on 06/27/2008 19:36:16
I was on the phone with Sistah love for an hour and a half!
She sounds great tho. eating better, abay is ok... Next up (after I charge my phone) a call to my Oma.
Oma, my grandmother, is 89 today!
She sounds great tho. eating better, abay is ok... Next up (after I charge my phone) a call to my Oma.
Oma, my grandmother, is 89 today!
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 19:50:13
livingonli on 06/27/2008 19:50:13
Happy birthday to Raine's grandmother. Is she one of those plucky old ladies like in the commercials?
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 19:52:09
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 19:52:09
Happy birthday to your grandma, Raine 
Comment by livingonli on 06/27/2008 19:53:14
livingonli on 06/27/2008 19:53:14
I better head off to the salt mine. I have to give my extra time on Friday because not only do I have the normal Rush Hour traffic but I also have to deal with people heading out to the Hamptons for the weekend.
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 19:54:45
Yes happy birthday wishes from Rancho ABQ too!
capt on 06/27/2008 19:54:45
Quote by livingonli:
Happy birthday to Raine's grandmother. Is she one of those plucky old ladies like in the commercials?
Yes happy birthday wishes from Rancho ABQ too!
Comment by MMB on 06/27/2008 19:57:03
MMB on 06/27/2008 19:57:03
Happy Birthday to Raine's grandmother Liv I hope things turn out great for you!! It is alway's darkest before the dawn.
Liv I hope things turn out great for you!! It is alway's darkest before the dawn.
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 20:03:25
capt on 06/27/2008 20:03:25
Looks like another 100 point trim from the DJIA today.
Ouch.
Ouch.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 20:03:26
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 20:03:26
Take care Liv. I'll just add to the chorus, things will turn for the better soon.
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 20:12:10
capt on 06/27/2008 20:12:10
Listening to Randi and these guys (Yoo and Addington) are making STEAM shoot out of my ears.
These "hearings" and strongly worded letters are going nowhere. We need a special prosecutor to indict and start getting some jail terms for these liars and neochronic evil bastards.
These "hearings" and strongly worded letters are going nowhere. We need a special prosecutor to indict and start getting some jail terms for these liars and neochronic evil bastards.
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 20:16:43
Raine on 06/27/2008 20:16:43
Let me preface this with these facts. I have 2 sisters. both have children, 1 with a second on the way. I am the only sister who has been married. I have been divorced, and am now happily married to the right man, BobR.
Oma is doing great. I asked her how she felt about having a 3rd great grandchild. she said mfff. I said why? this is great! She reminded me that I didn't give her a great grandchild. It has been a 20 year conversation between her and I. She doesn't want to accept the reality that motherhood is not a part of the story of my life. I told her that 'actually, I paid sisterlove to have a second child for me'. that now she can say she has three grandaughters and three G'grandchildren. I told her to ask sister (in the room) she did, Sister laughed and said 'Yeah. how the hell do you think I can afford this kid'.. Oma sounded flustered, but laughing deeply...
Then Sisah reminded Oma that at least Raine is married! so I told Oma that I got marreid not once but twice for her (two can play the guilt game) , and since sistah love #2 has not been married either, I would get married again a THIRD time just so she can say she has experienced three marriages with her grandaughters, and the great grandchildren. Oma laughed so hard, she told me she was happy she had "depends™"
:rofl: Oma is a pistol. I love her.
Oma is doing great. I asked her how she felt about having a 3rd great grandchild. she said mfff. I said why? this is great! She reminded me that I didn't give her a great grandchild. It has been a 20 year conversation between her and I. She doesn't want to accept the reality that motherhood is not a part of the story of my life. I told her that 'actually, I paid sisterlove to have a second child for me'. that now she can say she has three grandaughters and three G'grandchildren. I told her to ask sister (in the room) she did, Sister laughed and said 'Yeah. how the hell do you think I can afford this kid'..
Oma sounded flustered, but laughing deeply... Then Sisah reminded Oma that at least Raine is married!
so I told Oma that I got marreid not once but twice for her (two can play the guilt game) , and since sistah love #2 has not been married either, I would get married again a THIRD time just so she can say she has experienced three marriages with her grandaughters, and the great grandchildren. Oma laughed so hard, she told me she was happy she had "depends™" :rofl: Oma is a pistol. I love her.
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 20:19:26
These are stunning things that I am hearing. HOLY crap. They won't answer whether or not someone can be buried alive?
Were these people under oath? This is more disgusting than almost anything I have heard from this administration. and that is saying a lot.
Raine on 06/27/2008 20:19:26
Quote by capt:
Listening to Randi and these guys (Yoo and Addington) are making STEAM shoot out of my ears.
These "hearings" and strongly worded letters are going nowhere. We need a special prosecutor to indict and start getting some jail terms for these liars and neochronic evil bastards.
Were these people under oath? This is more disgusting than almost anything I have heard from this administration. and that is saying a lot.
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 20:23:58
I bet we have a few entourage fans here !
Raine on 06/27/2008 20:23:58
Quote by Mondobubba:
Tis raining here now. Nice gentle rain at that. Ahhh relaxing.
This is for Raine. Effing Drama!
I bet we have a few entourage fans here !
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 20:26:59
Problem is, by the time we can get a special prosecutor (Next January), the worst of the lot will have had plenty of time to take off to Paraguay. I'm sure Georgie's compound is large enough to keep them. It's the least he can do.
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 20:26:59
Quote by capt:
Listening to Randi and these guys (Yoo and Addington) are making STEAM shoot out of my ears.
These "hearings" and strongly worded letters are going nowhere. We need a special prosecutor to indict and start getting some jail terms for these liars and neochronic evil bastards.
Problem is, by the time we can get a special prosecutor (Next January), the worst of the lot will have had plenty of time to take off to Paraguay. I'm sure Georgie's compound is large enough to keep them. It's the least he can do.
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 20:28:00
You know the discussion about can they torture a child has already happened? That 15yo boy had his testicles squished in a vise (or something like that) to try to make his dad the "general" tell them where they hid the WMD's. Many have died while being tortured it is beyond outrageous.
capt on 06/27/2008 20:28:00
Quote by Raine:These are stunning things that I am hearing. HOLY crap. They won't answer whether or not someone can be buried alive?Quote by capt:
Listening to Randi and these guys (Yoo and Addington) are making STEAM shoot out of my ears.
These "hearings" and strongly worded letters are going nowhere. We need a special prosecutor to indict and start getting some jail terms for these liars and neochronic evil bastards.
Were these people under oath? This is more disgusting than almost anything I have heard from this administration. and that is saying a lot.
You know the discussion about can they torture a child has already happened? That 15yo boy had his testicles squished in a vise (or something like that) to try to make his dad the "general" tell them where they hid the WMD's. Many have died while being tortured it is beyond outrageous.
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 20:30:23
capt on 06/27/2008 20:30:23
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 20:36:10
capt on 06/27/2008 20:36:10
I truly believe Bush will be held to account, most likely postumously. He started a war on lies. Nothing can make that just on the planet. Acts of aggression are illegal.
There are too many bodies, collateral, dead detainees, etc. Crimes have been committed.
There are too many bodies, collateral, dead detainees, etc. Crimes have been committed.
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 20:37:43
Raine on 06/27/2008 20:37:43
I would do anything for *ush, but I won't do that.
(meatloaf is suddenly in my head) Thanks randi...
(meatloaf is suddenly in my head) Thanks randi...
Comment by trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 20:39:35
That's it.
trojanrabbit on 06/27/2008 20:39:35
Quote by capt:
Paraguay in a spin about Bush's alleged 100,000 acre hideaway
Is that what you are talking about?
That's it.
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 20:40:56
YEah, that one. Except that I believe since the time of that article, the government has changed, and isn't very pro *ush. They will now extradite him.
Raine on 06/27/2008 20:40:56
Quote by capt:
Paraguay in a spin about Bush's alleged 100,000 acre hideaway
Is that what you are talking about?
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 20:43:01
Poetic justice then!!!!
Nowhere to run to baby, nowhere to hide.
Maybe he and Darth Cheney will move to Dubai?
capt on 06/27/2008 20:43:01
Quote by Raine:YEah, that one. Except that I believe since the time of that article, the government has changed, and isn't very pro *ush. They will now extradite him.Quote by capt:
Paraguay in a spin about Bush's alleged 100,000 acre hideaway
Is that what you are talking about?
Poetic justice then!!!!
Nowhere to run to baby, nowhere to hide.
Maybe he and Darth Cheney will move to Dubai?
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 20:44:46
Raine on 06/27/2008 20:44:46
Grover Norquist calls Obama, *Kerry with a Tan*...
Good gawd, do these people have any friggin clue what racism is?
Good gawd, do these people have any friggin clue what racism is?
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 20:50:55
capt on 06/27/2008 20:50:55
He said TAN not BLACK - see nuttin racist about it?
The worst racists don't even know they are being so obvious. They can't break from the internal dialogue where their hate lives.
Like BillO - "They didn't even say M'effer get me some ice tea"
They think there is nothing wrong with those kind of thoughts so the words fall from their pieholes like little stinky turds - and they look at you like "What?"
Hate sucks but is fear based so people also fear losing their anchor of hate and hatred. It is rooted in self-loathing.
The worst racists don't even know they are being so obvious. They can't break from the internal dialogue where their hate lives.
Like BillO - "They didn't even say M'effer get me some ice tea"
They think there is nothing wrong with those kind of thoughts so the words fall from their pieholes like little stinky turds - and they look at you like "What?"
Hate sucks but is fear based so people also fear losing their anchor of hate and hatred. It is rooted in self-loathing.
If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.
Hermann Hesse
Comment by Random on 06/27/2008 21:22:24
Random on 06/27/2008 21:22:24
*coughs* Random, has returned!
Thanks Shane-O. I like , but the other is funnier.
That aside, time for a nap...long painful day, and didn't even get to the dentist...
Thanks Shane-O. I like , but the other is funnier.
That aside, time for a nap...long painful day, and didn't even get to the dentist...
Comment by Random on 06/27/2008 21:26:48
Random on 06/27/2008 21:26:48
I just reliezed...I posted nearly half an hour after anyone has been here...
Hm...Wish i knew some good Muchaly Culcan jokes...or even how to spell his name for that matter.
Hm...Wish i knew some good Muchaly Culcan jokes...or even how to spell his name for that matter.
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 21:46:56
Get some rest dearie. you need to get yourself back to normal... *Random* normal... :D
:hug:
Raine on 06/27/2008 21:46:56
Quote by Random:
*coughs* Random, has returned!
Thanks Shane-O. I like , but the other is funnier.
That aside, time for a nap...long painful day, and didn't even get to the dentist...
:hug:
Comment by Random on 06/27/2008 21:49:14
Ah, thanks Raine.
Normal is fun, specially the Random kind.
Random on 06/27/2008 21:49:14
Quote by Raine:Get some rest dearie. you need to get yourself back to normal... *Random* normal... :DQuote by Random:
*coughs* Random, has returned!
Thanks Shane-O. I like , but the other is funnier.
That aside, time for a nap...long painful day, and didn't even get to the dentist...
:hug:
Ah, thanks Raine.
Normal is fun, specially the Random kind.
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 23:12:23
capt on 06/27/2008 23:12:23
Senate Holds Off on FISA
CQ ($$) reports that the Senate will take up a rewrite of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) after returning from the July 4th recess on July 8th. On June 25 the Senate voted 80-15, to limit debate on a motion to proceed to the bill (HR 6304).
Those who oppose the bill argue that the privacy of U.S. citizens would be jeopardized and the administration's warrantless surveillance program would be protected from any determination of illegality. During debate, Senator Chris Dodd☼ (D-CT) said; "we are about to make another great error because of fear, because we fail to understand that balancing legitimate interests of our security and our rights ought not to be compromised. That is what the FISA courts were created to do - to balance rights and fears over legitimate concerns about our security being jeopardized. So I rise once again to voice my strong opposition to the misguided FISA legislation before us, as it will come in the next day or so."
When the bill is considered in July, three amendments will be considered :
An amendment offered by Senators Dodd, Russ Feingold (D-WI) and Patrick Leahy (D-VT) would strip the bill of its immunity provision.
An amendment offered by Senator Arlen Specter,☼ (R-PA) would require the lawsuits' dismissal unless a federal district court determines the assistance "was provided in connection with an intelligence activity that violated the Constitution of the United States."
Senator Jeff Bingaman☼ (D-NM) plans to offer an amendment that would stay all the pending lawsuits until 90 days after Congress receives the inspectors general report on the president's surveillance program required by the legislation.
*****
I know it is old news but someone was wondering what day the senate returns and I wanted to point out Bingaman's amendment! Go Jeff!
CQ ($$) reports that the Senate will take up a rewrite of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) after returning from the July 4th recess on July 8th. On June 25 the Senate voted 80-15, to limit debate on a motion to proceed to the bill (HR 6304).
Those who oppose the bill argue that the privacy of U.S. citizens would be jeopardized and the administration's warrantless surveillance program would be protected from any determination of illegality. During debate, Senator Chris Dodd☼ (D-CT) said; "we are about to make another great error because of fear, because we fail to understand that balancing legitimate interests of our security and our rights ought not to be compromised. That is what the FISA courts were created to do - to balance rights and fears over legitimate concerns about our security being jeopardized. So I rise once again to voice my strong opposition to the misguided FISA legislation before us, as it will come in the next day or so."
When the bill is considered in July, three amendments will be considered :
An amendment offered by Senators Dodd, Russ Feingold (D-WI) and Patrick Leahy (D-VT) would strip the bill of its immunity provision.
An amendment offered by Senator Arlen Specter,☼ (R-PA) would require the lawsuits' dismissal unless a federal district court determines the assistance "was provided in connection with an intelligence activity that violated the Constitution of the United States."
Senator Jeff Bingaman☼ (D-NM) plans to offer an amendment that would stay all the pending lawsuits until 90 days after Congress receives the inspectors general report on the president's surveillance program required by the legislation.
*****
I know it is old news but someone was wondering what day the senate returns and I wanted to point out Bingaman's amendment! Go Jeff!
Comment by Raine on 06/27/2008 23:24:05
Raine on 06/27/2008 23:24:05
Thanks for that info capt.
Phone calls still need to be made.... even if they have been made once or twice already, they still need to happen.
☼ <------- how did you get that very cool icon?
Phone calls still need to be made.... even if they have been made once or twice already, they still need to happen.
☼ <------- how did you get that very cool icon?
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 23:34:53
TriSec on 06/27/2008 23:34:53
Evening folks....some pix from this afternoon's kerfuffle...
Comment by capt on 06/27/2008 23:41:18
It jumped on board the cut and paste - I've seen it before usually a contrast color to the text and identifies a link when I've seen it.
A little sunshine chinga!
Those pictures are a little scary. Looks like a hurricane went through. . .
capt on 06/27/2008 23:41:18
Quote by Raine:
Thanks for that info capt.
Phone calls still need to be made.... even if they have been made once or twice already, they still need to happen.
☼ <------- how did you get that very cool icon?
It jumped on board the cut and paste - I've seen it before usually a contrast color to the text and identifies a link when I've seen it.
A little sunshine chinga!
Those pictures are a little scary. Looks like a hurricane went through. . .
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 23:46:53
TriSec on 06/27/2008 23:46:53
There's rumors in the neighborhood that it was actually a minimal F-1 or 'Dust Devil' that went down the street. We weren't home to see it...
Comment by TriSec on 06/27/2008 23:49:22
TriSec on 06/27/2008 23:49:22
"Gustnado"....that seems more likely.
A gustnado is a colloquial expression for a type of short-lived, shallow, cyclonic circulation that can form in a severe thunderstorm. While it derives its name from the tornado, it has little in common with tornadoes structurally in terms of vertical development, or in regard to intensity, longevity, and formative process (classic tornadoes are associated with mesocyclones).
The average gustnado lasts a few seconds to a few minutes, although there can be several generations and simultaneous swarms. Most have the winds of an F0 or F1 tornado, and are commonly mistaken for tornadoes. However, unlike tornadoes, the rotating column of air in a gustnado usually does not extend all the way to the base of the thundercloud. Gustnadoes actually have more in common with whirlwinds (which include dust devils, whirlwinds that form due to superheated surface layers and stretched vorticity, most commonly on sunny, warm days with light winds). They are not considered true tornadoes (unless they connect the surface to the ambient cloud base) by most meteorologists and are not included in tornado statistics. Sometimes referred to as spin-up tornadoes, that term more correctly describes the rare tornadic gustnado that connects the surface to the ambient clouded base, or to relatively brief tornadoes associated with a mesovortex.
The most common setting for a gustnado is on the outflow from a severe thunderstorm (58+ mph winds). They are triggered by gust fronts (hence the name) in thunderstorms. The cool air in the gust front acts like a mesoscale cold front, it slices under the warm air ahead of it, creating upward motions and turbulent interactions. The friction from this interaction creates a spinning column of air, or eddy, which can create a gustnado (to get the general idea of this, picture an area of leaves swirling on a windy day, just on a much larger scale).
In addition to forming on the leading edge of a thunderstorm, which in a supercell is the front-flank downdraft, gustnadoes are also not uncommon in the rear-flank downdraft of supercells. This region often contains high vorticity air, and sometimes highly buoyant air, both of which are conducive to the formation of gustnadoes as well as tornadoes. Gustnadoes near the updraft-downdraft interface may evolve into bona fide tornadoes when ingested into a mesocyclone.
Although "gustnado" has yet to enter accepted weather nomenclature, the term is popular in the Great Plains and Midwest of the United States, where the phenomenon is most common.
Comment by Random on 06/28/2008 00:01:10
Random on 06/28/2008 00:01:10
Random's back.
Doctor Who Time.
Doctor Who Time.
Comment by Raine on 06/28/2008 00:02:14
Raine on 06/28/2008 00:02:14
Holy crap Tri! I am glad that everyone is ok!
Comment by capt on 06/28/2008 00:16:25
capt on 06/28/2008 00:16:25
Comment by capt on 06/28/2008 00:19:22
capt on 06/28/2008 00:19:22
Evidence connects child's murder to another man
A man accused of raping and killing an 11-year-old girl on Halloween night of 2005 has been cleared—for now—after DNA found on the victim's body was linked to another man.
Robert Gonzales, 22, confessed to murdering Victoria Sandoval and then later recanted that confession.
Gonzales, who is mentally disabled, initially told investigators he strangled Sandoval, whom he considered his girlfriend, after she told him her real age. The man said he was upset because he thought Sandoval was 14.
This week, the case against Gonzales took an abrupt turn when investigators linked DNA found at the scene to another man, 20-year-old Israel Diaz.
Diaz, an illegal immigrant, was picked up on a burglary charge in April and was about to be deported to Mexico. He is now being held by the federal government, but officials in New Mexico are doing paperwork to get him into state custody so Diaz can be charged with murder.
Jeff Buckels, Gonzales' attorney, said Friday was an emotional day for his client and family.
"Sometimes things just aren't the way they seem at first glance, and sometimes—especially vulnerable people like Robert Gonzales—will actually confess to something they didn't do."
However, the district attorney's office isn't ready to say Gonzales is in the clear. Kari Brandenburg says there is evidence another person was involved in the killing.
Brandenburg's office dropped charges against Gonzales without prejudice, meaning they can be re-filed.
*****
Good thing we didn't execute the wrong guy even though he confessed, eh?
A man accused of raping and killing an 11-year-old girl on Halloween night of 2005 has been cleared—for now—after DNA found on the victim's body was linked to another man.
Robert Gonzales, 22, confessed to murdering Victoria Sandoval and then later recanted that confession.
Gonzales, who is mentally disabled, initially told investigators he strangled Sandoval, whom he considered his girlfriend, after she told him her real age. The man said he was upset because he thought Sandoval was 14.
This week, the case against Gonzales took an abrupt turn when investigators linked DNA found at the scene to another man, 20-year-old Israel Diaz.
Diaz, an illegal immigrant, was picked up on a burglary charge in April and was about to be deported to Mexico. He is now being held by the federal government, but officials in New Mexico are doing paperwork to get him into state custody so Diaz can be charged with murder.
Jeff Buckels, Gonzales' attorney, said Friday was an emotional day for his client and family.
"Sometimes things just aren't the way they seem at first glance, and sometimes—especially vulnerable people like Robert Gonzales—will actually confess to something they didn't do."
However, the district attorney's office isn't ready to say Gonzales is in the clear. Kari Brandenburg says there is evidence another person was involved in the killing.
Brandenburg's office dropped charges against Gonzales without prejudice, meaning they can be re-filed.
*****
Good thing we didn't execute the wrong guy even though he confessed, eh?
Comment by Random on 06/28/2008 00:21:54
The more i read of this guy, i want him to be McCain's VP. Just...Shootin fish in a barrel.
Random on 06/28/2008 00:21:54
Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
Kinda...Creepy
Kinda an understatement? VERY creepy . .
The more i read of this guy, i want him to be McCain's VP. Just...Shootin fish in a barrel.
Comment by capt on 06/28/2008 00:31:47
capt on 06/28/2008 00:31:47
There really isn't a VP choice for McCain that is sane. They are all pretty kooky characters.
Bobby would be a great choice! Shooting fish in a barrel - indeed.
Bobby would be a great choice! Shooting fish in a barrel - indeed.
Comment by capt on 06/28/2008 00:34:44
capt on 06/28/2008 00:34:44
FEMA is the federal governments Dept. that insures the government will stay in power no matter how many people are killed.
If by preserving the governments authority in a crisis they can act like they are there to help - so be it.
If by preserving the governments authority in a crisis they can act like they are there to help - so be it.
Comment by Random on 06/28/2008 00:35:34
Random on 06/28/2008 00:35:34
I'd want Crist, just for all the gay jokes.
Comment by Random on 06/28/2008 00:36:37
Random on 06/28/2008 00:36:37
You scaring me a bit there Capt.
Comment by capt on 06/28/2008 00:37:31
capt on 06/28/2008 00:37:31
Seizing Laptops and Cameras Without Cause
Wave goodbye to any pretense of privacy.
This is outrageous.
Wave goodbye to any pretense of privacy.
This is outrageous.
Comment by Random on 06/28/2008 00:42:28
Random on 06/28/2008 00:42:28
Why didn't anyone tell me Wall-E was out.
Comment by capt on 06/28/2008 00:43:04
Actually it sounded WAY worse than I meant for it to. I have friends in the medical profession and they are DMAT and I think that is under FEMA but FEMA is there to preserve order, order is government authority. That is not necessarilly a bad thing. The option being anarchy in a crisis.
That is why their primary mission is to preserve authority. Order will help get the things needed to the people that need them. Medical, food and water, etc.
They still suck - but I throw rocks at the black helicopters so . . .
capt on 06/28/2008 00:43:04
Quote by Random:
You scaring me a bit there Capt.
Actually it sounded WAY worse than I meant for it to. I have friends in the medical profession and they are DMAT and I think that is under FEMA but FEMA is there to preserve order, order is government authority. That is not necessarilly a bad thing. The option being anarchy in a crisis.
That is why their primary mission is to preserve authority. Order will help get the things needed to the people that need them. Medical, food and water, etc.
They still suck - but I throw rocks at the black helicopters so . . .
Comment by Random on 06/28/2008 00:48:25
Eh...I'll pretend i understand that.
Random on 06/28/2008 00:48:25
Quote by capt:Quote by Random:
You scaring me a bit there Capt.
Actually it sounded WAY worse than I meant for it to. I have friends in the medical profession and they are DMAT and I think that is under FEMA but FEMA is there to preserve order, order is government authority. That is not necessarilly a bad thing. The option being anarchy in a crisis.
That is why their primary mission is to preserve authority. Order will help get the things needed to the people that need them. Medical, food and water, etc.
They still suck - but I throw rocks at the black helicopters so . . .
Eh...I'll pretend i understand that.
Comment by capt on 06/28/2008 00:53:27
capt on 06/28/2008 00:53:27
Sorry, I tend to blah blah blah when I should be doobie doobie doing, then if I doobie doobie do - I end up blah blah blah.
Everything is circular. . .
Everything is circular. . .
Comment by Shane-O on 06/28/2008 00:55:56
Shane-O on 06/28/2008 00:55:56
Very funny emoticon Random... HI-larious. :clap:
Comment by livingonli on 06/28/2008 01:03:37
livingonli on 06/28/2008 01:03:37
Sounds like you guys are having fun tonight.
Comment by Random on 06/28/2008 01:06:54
I love your sound clips, Hilarious.
Random on 06/28/2008 01:06:54
Quote by Shane-O:
Very funny emoticon Random... HI-larious. :clap:
I love your sound clips, Hilarious.
Comment by Random on 06/28/2008 01:12:17
Circular is circular.
Random on 06/28/2008 01:12:17
Quote by capt:
Sorry, I tend to blah blah blah when I should be doobie doobie doing, then if I doobie doobie do - I end up blah blah blah.
Everything is circular. . .
Circular is circular.
Comment by capt on 06/28/2008 01:16:48
capt on 06/28/2008 01:16:48
My legs are rubber tonight. I had to go up and down the ladder about ten times and my legs about gave out. Man I am out of shape. (had to service the evap cooler)
Comment by Random on 06/28/2008 01:45:01
Random on 06/28/2008 01:45:01
Random now will...
Comment by livingonli on 06/28/2008 01:52:38
You party animal you.
livingonli on 06/28/2008 01:52:38
Quote by Random:
Random now will...
You party animal you.
Comment by Random on 06/28/2008 01:53:43
oh...Random is having loads of fun.
Random has his own sound clip.
Random on 06/28/2008 01:53:43
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Random:
Random now will...
You party animal you.
oh...Random is having loads of fun.
Random has his own sound clip.
Comment by Random on 06/28/2008 01:57:21
Random on 06/28/2008 01:57:21
*sniff*
Go DOCTOR!
Go DOCTOR!
Comment by livingonli on 06/28/2008 05:53:23
livingonli on 06/28/2008 05:53:23
Tonight, late night video gets self-indulgent. The song that seems to have described my life since my unemployed period;
And for shits and giggles some classic psychedelia;
And for shits and giggles some classic psychedelia;