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Author: TriSec    Date: 07/08/2008 10:38:02

Good Morning.

Today is our 1,938th day in Iraq.

We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra, courtesy of antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4116
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3977
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3655
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3257
Since Election (1/31/05): 2679

Other Coalition Troops: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 542


We find this morning's cost of war starting to move too quickly for the eye to follow. It's passing through $ 534,896,150,000.00



So now turning to our friends at IAVA, there's an interesting take on the candidates and what they're focusing on. A combat veteran writes about the "illusory comfort" of campaign platitudes and tries to make us civilians understand what the new commander in chief really needs to do. And please go and read it from the source; there's a ton of embedded links with plenty more information.


Senator Barack Obama recently gave an interview to the Military Times family of newspapers, in which he made the following remarkable statement:

I don’t know a higher [military] priority than making sure that the men and women who are putting themselves in harm’s way, day in and day out, are getting decent pay and decent benefits … These are just basic requirements of a grateful nation.

Lest anyone think I’m taking a partisan stance, I should point out that Senator John McCain’s website makes almost the exact same assertion:

There can be no higher defense priority than the proper compensation, training, and equipping of our troops.

Sadly, it is an example of how skewed our national debate about roles and missions of our Armed Forces has become that these assertions are accepted without challenge. Such statements threaten to turn our fellow Americans in the profession of arms into that oddest of military aphorisms, the “self-licking ice cream cone” - an object that exists for no other reason except to consume itself. The statements above are popular because they make us feel good that we are taking care of folks who are shouldering a burden the nation is deeply ambivalent about them bearing. But we use such illusory comfort as an excuse to turn away from hard choices about roles and missions in the coming years.

Let’s set aside for the moment that fact that Commander in Chief is only one of the many roles given to the Chief Executive by the Constitution, and that the excessive focus on the “CINC test” is completely out of proportion to what the founders intended. What both candidates have gotten wrong here is the old adage of “Mission First, Troops Always.” This is a hard and necessary lesson learned and internalized by military leaders, from the most junior NCO to the most senior general and admiral. Simply put, it’s the idea that no matter how much you want to take care of those under your command, your unit’s assigned mission has to come before their personal well-being. It’s one of the toughest lessons of military leadership to internalize, but it’s also essential to a professional force that contains a core identity of Servant of the Nation. We’ve already lived through a previous period where this mantra got reversed - during our missions in the Balkans, when deployed forces were told repeatedly that force protection was to be the number-one priority of the force. The illogic in this is not hard to spot - if the top priority here is taking care of our soldiers, then the easiest way to do that is to not deploy them into harm’s way. In the words of an old saw, “A ship in harbor is safe, but that’s not what a ship is for.”

Want a better way? Rather than sending out feel-good platitudes about “honoring those who serve”, let’s create a strategy that’s worthy of their sacrifice. Rather than build an elaborate construct where we shower our troops with praise and benefits even as we ask them to take on more ill-defined missions, let’s give them, as I put it during the primary season, a “coherent, consistent vision of American power.”

If you do that, then the resourcing, the training, the equipping follows. It won’t be easy - it will involve difficult choices that nobody wants to make. But if you set those conditions, then, in the words of those who know, “we need not talk about our morale. As committed soldiers, we will see this mission through.”




Turning to another veteran of Iraq, we find a remarkable missive penned a few day ago...about how our Independence Day is essentially meaningless.
Independence Day means nothing significant to me. It is the one time of year that we allow children to play with pyrotechnic devices. We turn them loose with matches and low grade explosives. In Darwinian fashion some return with fewer fingers or with scars that will warn future prospective mates that the barer may not be the ideal parent due to a lack of good judgment.

In addition to the rash of maimed children, there will be barbecues, keg parties and fireworks displays. There will be sales at car dealerships, hardware stores and the mall.

I will cringe at every pop and bang until I have totally assumed a frame of mind that will not associate these sounds with the sounds of mortar and rifle fire. I have found that setting off fireworks with the kids is the best way to get into that peaceful state. Even then I will wake from sleep grasping for a pistol every time there is a late night explosion.

All of this is fairly divorced from the intention of the holiday itself. The mythology behind the United States becomes more and more diluted each time it crosses another line. Each dirty little secret that is revealed crushes an ideal that we once held as the gold standard. When we find out that we torture we can no longer claim to be champions of human rights. When it comes to light that we have an extensive domestic spying program we can no longer look down our collective noses at countries that violate the privacy of their citizens. These were things that the Soviets did. They were things that happened in backwards dictatorships, not the United States.

Even the education on the subject that one receives in school is far removed from the reality. Few school children actually read the Declaration of Independence. From the point of view of the State this is a good thing, as children who read it might feel impelled by patriotism to engage in acts of sedition and revolution. Certainly, there are parts that apply to our situation today where the United States is the oppressive imperial power.

Describing the reasons that they decided to take up arms against their own country the Founding Fathers wrote:

“He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.”

Black Water and Armour Group rely heavily on foreign mercenaries to do their work. Iraq is rotten with Afrikaner mercs running around with AKs in Datsun pickups.

They also wrote:

“He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.”

There is a case to be made here as well. An article in the January 30, 2008 edition of the Boston Globe reports that the President declared he is not bound by Congress's laws when they apply to the military. He claims that since he is Commander-in-Chief, laws passed by Congress that limit his authority with regard to foreign affairs and the military are unconstitutional.

The United States that those early malcontents fought and died for is long gone. The new state that overthrew an imperialist oppressor is now seen by the rest of the world as an aggressive enemy of peace. Their radical ideas about personal freedom have been eviscerated by the Patriot Act....




Finally today, it was reported yesterday that the government of Iraq is demanding a timetable for a US pullout. Of course, the Pentagon wants nothing to do with it.
In a rebuff to Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, the Pentagon said Monday that any timetable for a US withdrawal from Iraq would depend on conditions on the ground there.

Maliki told Arab ambassadors on Monday he was pressing for such a timetable in negotiations with Washington on an agreement on the status of US forces in Iraq beyond 2008.

Asked about the prime minister's comments, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told reporters: "With respect to timetables I would say the same thing I would say as respects to the security situation -- it is dependent on conditions on the ground."

Whitman said the United States had made clear "that we have no long term desires to have forces permanently stationed in Iraq."

"But timelines tend to be artificial in nature," he said. "In a situation where things are as dynamic as they are in Iraq, I would just tell you, it's usually best to look at these things based on conditions on the ground."

Maliki's comments to Arab ambassadors to the United Arab Emirates marked the first time he has specifically demanded a timetable for a US withdrawal.

"The direction we are taking is to have a memorandum of understanding either for the departure of the forces or to have a timetable for their withdrawal," a statement from Maliki's office quoted him as saying.

"The negotiations are still continuing with the American side, but in any case the basis for the agreement will be respect for the sovereignty of Iraq," he added.

A UN mandate that provides the legal basis for the US military presence in Iraq expires at end of the year, and the two countries are negotiating a bilateral agreement to replace it.




 

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Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 12:05:51
First.





Morning :hug:

Comment by Scoopster on 07/08/2008 12:30:26
Morning! Word has it we're in for a scorcher today... but not enough to make the bus rides free.

Comment by velveeta jones on 07/08/2008 12:38:05
Morning all. Its my last "day off" - back to work tomorrow. And, due to my extensive leave, I lost my good schedule - where I went in to work late afternoon and worked late. Dammit! I liked that schedule 'cause I could hear SMS and do lawn/gardening/errands as well. My new shift is more of a 9-5 deal. SUCKS. But I'll be trading shifts as soon as I can.



TriSec, your story of the kids playing with pyrotechnics reminds me that I had so many friends growing up with missing fingers! Living in the mountains of VA where a small town was being groomed into a bigger town, we had plenty of blasting caps laying around from all the blowing up of rocks and mountains!

:wacko:

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 12:50:37
Good morning.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 12:52:05
Moring Raine, Vel, Scoop

Comment by Shane-O on 07/08/2008 12:52:43
Morning!

Comment by velveeta jones on 07/08/2008 12:58:08
I have Fuligo Septica in my mulch.



Its often called "dog vomit mold" because of its appearance. *sigh* I hate it.



Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 13:00:36
Comment by m-hadley on 07/08/2008 13:01:20
So Veleveeta,

Are you home for awhile? Until the next disaster? I'm just wondering... What were your impressions of the operations in the midwest? Just curious, in any case, I'm glad you're back safe and sound. Thank you for your service to this country - I think your work is every bit as important as those who are serving in the foreign lands.

TriSec, another excellent post, thank you for all you do!

Mala,

Good Morning! How's your Mom doing in her new job?

I'm off to the doctor this morning - ugh!

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug: :peace:

Comment by m-hadley on 07/08/2008 13:07:36
Mornin' Raine, Scoopster, & Shane-O,

Ya'll might want to mosey over to my blog - I added two new posts last night, As always, comments are welcome, even encouraged :P

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug:

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 13:08:51
Wow - she sounds distraught.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 13:09:31
"1, 2, 3, taxes - ha. ha. ha." :rofl:

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 13:17:17
A evacuation slide deployed in-flight??



Chris, I don't think that's right. The rear door would have blown off and the plane would have crashed.



I have friends in the industry...slide misfires are more common than you would think, but they usually happen on the ground. (they disarm the slide at the gate and during the cruise portion of the flight...it's armed during ground operations and the climb and descent phase, just in case...)





Comment by velveeta jones on 07/08/2008 13:17:33
Quote by m-hadley:

So Veleveeta,

Are you home for awhile? Until the next disaster? I'm just wondering... What were your impressions of the operations in the midwest? Just curious, in any case, I'm glad you're back safe and sound. Thank you for your service to this country - I think your work is every bit as important as those who are serving in the foreign lands.

TriSec, another excellent post, thank you for all you do!

Mala,

Good Morning! How's your Mom doing in her new job?

I'm off to the doctor this morning - ugh!

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug: :peace:


I am back Faye, and ever so glad! I had posted pix, maybe you missed them here they are:

Wisconsin DR

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 13:20:09
Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Raine, Scoopster, & Shane-O,

Ya'll might want to mosey over to my blog - I added two new posts last night, As always, comments are welcome, even encouraged :P

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug:
I mosey'd... excellent work as always Ms. Faye. It's amazing that the Poppy crop is probably bigger than ever there now, isn't it?



Heckuva job. :grumble:



Comment by Scoopster on 07/08/2008 13:21:30
Ugh.. still so sleepy. These meds I'm on really kick my butt.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 13:22:56
Quote by TriSec:

You know I had to look that up.



Roughly translates tosticky stuff on the bottom of Bob's shoe



Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 13:24:16
Good Morning!

Comment by Shane-O on 07/08/2008 13:28:12
Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Raine, Scoopster, & Shane-O,

Ya'll might want to mosey over to my blog - I added two new posts last night, As always, comments are welcome, even encouraged :P

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug:
Mosey-ing right now...



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 13:29:07


Howard Wolfson joins Fox... Says it more fair and balanced.





Comment by m-hadley on 07/08/2008 13:29:37
Mornin' Capt :coffee:

Scoopster - which meds are you taking? Don't mean to be nosy, but I take a slew of meds and am always curious about others' regimens...

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug: :peace:

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 13:34:57
Momma is going to England?

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 13:36:28
I hate this entire Voucher system. HATE it!

Comment by velveeta jones on 07/08/2008 13:36:37
That BillO............ he's sooooo smart!



:rofl: *snort* :rofl:

Comment by Shane-O on 07/08/2008 13:37:16
Income redistribution: that's when workers' productivity goes up 70% and their wages go down 10%.



Redistribution from the working class to the wealthy.



See Bill Moyers.

Comment by Scoopster on 07/08/2008 13:38:13
Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Capt :coffee:

Scoopster - which meds are you taking? Don't mean to be nosy, but I take a slew of meds and am always curious about others' regimens...

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug: :peace:


I'm on Celebrex for pain and Flexeril to help me sleep w/o tossing or pain.. I pulled a muscle in my shoulder, apparently from tossing way too hard in my sleep!

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 13:40:21
in Memory of Jessie Helms...



Yes, the day they put an inflatable Condom over his house...





Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 13:40:56




Flexerils are sleepy

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 13:41:18
If President Bush was invited to a conference on the Island of Lesbos, would his head explode?



Discuss.





Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 13:42:09
Morning all.



Soooo.....Barack Obama is not like Jessie Helms? Well, thank goodness for that! You keep driving that point home Sean!



Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 13:42:52
:: jessie helms :: Leeesbian-------->

Comment by clintster on 07/08/2008 13:44:59
Mornin' everybody! So, Mama got a new sound for her box, eh?



"A Llllllesbian."

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 13:47:53
pssst....i have heard rumors that is a..........llllleeeesbian!

Comment by BobR on 07/08/2008 13:50:14
morning folks... :coffee:

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 13:51:00
<------- bug's teeth.



Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 13:51:04
Quote by starling310:

pssst....i have heard rumors that is a..........llllleeeesbian!




Hey, stay away from my marriage! :modbat:







Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 13:51:55
MA! Cho! Ma! Cho! Man! I've got to be a Macho Man!



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 13:52:57
I feel so marginalized. I am a blond haired momma for obama.

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 13:53:35
I am so in love with Jim Louise Ward.

Comment by Random on 07/08/2008 13:54:49
Because i was so late in posting yesterday... (That and i haven't slept since 7 O'Clock yesterday morning)



McCain Ad



for years now, we've strived for one goal, long thought unuptainable. But now, we shall have portable healthcare. ( 1st ad: 39 seconds)



I would also like to add, after the nearly campaign crushing one-liner Hillary got off on Obama some months back, (that nearly lost him the election), McCain has stolen that line to now use on Obama, hoping to do the same. (View Ad #3)

Comment by Scoopster on 07/08/2008 13:55:25
Quote by capt:





Flexerils are sleepy


They are, but I gotta say for the past 5 days I haven't had a problem sleeping OR waking up tired - probably because I'm not flailing around using up energy!

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 13:56:17
Quote by TriSec:

If President Bush was invited to a conference on the Island of Lesbos, would his head explode?



Discuss.







Only if someone told him what it means . . .



Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 13:57:32
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by starling310:

pssst....i have heard rumors that is a..........llllleeeesbian!




Hey, stay away from my marriage! :modbat:









Talk to Velveeta man! She has been actively practicing lesbianism WITH THE SAME WOMAN for 12 YEARS!!!



If anyone is threatening the sanctity of your marriage it's her!

Marriage is NOT between and dammit!



Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 13:57:35
Portable Healthcare?



Hate to tell you Senator McCain, but Senator Kennedy already took care of that. Maybe you've heard about the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act...more commonly known as HIPAA?



It was passed in 1996, you could look it up.



Anyone who made use of COBRA, Healthcare Dependent Accounts, or Family Leave has benefitted from this law.





Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 13:58:46
Quote by Scoopster:

They are, but I gotta say for the past 5 days I haven't had a problem sleeping OR waking up tired - probably because I'm not flailing around using up energy!




Have you had a "sleep study?"



I was sleep deprived for about 20 years - severe obstructive sleep apnea. Now I have a bi-pap machine and sleep is WAY better.



The reason I ask is flailing (movement and waking) are signs. . .



Comment by Random on 07/08/2008 14:00:21
Quote by TriSec:

Portable Healthcare?



Hate to tell you Senator McCain, but Senator Kennedy already took care of that. Maybe you've heard about the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act...more commonly known as HIPAA?



It was passed in 1996, you could look it up.



Anyone who made use of COBRA, Healthcare Dependent Accounts, or Family Leave has benefitted from this law.







...Random confused. How can healthcare be portable, since it is an abstract with no real physical body to carry around, so, portablity is a none issue.



Course, Random is a young'n who isn't "hip" to washington.



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:02:14
Iraq wants us out. They are INSISTING that we leave. So we should leave dammit!





Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 14:03:08
Quote by capt:

Quote by TriSec:

If President Bush was invited to a conference on the Island of Lesbos, would his head explode?



Discuss.







Only if someone told him what it means . . .





Speaking of Lesbos! Stop calling yourselves Lesbians!

Comment by Scoopster on 07/08/2008 14:03:15
Quote by capt:

Quote by Scoopster:

They are, but I gotta say for the past 5 days I haven't had a problem sleeping OR waking up tired - probably because I'm not flailing around using up energy!




Have you had a "sleep study?"



I was sleep deprived for about 20 years - severe obstructive sleep apnea. Now I have a bi-pap machine and sleep is WAY better.



The reason I ask is flailing (movement and waking) are signs. . .


I haven't yet, but since there's a history of hardcore snoring and/or apnea in my family I'm gonna have one done. My mother uses the ventliator at night too and it stopped her snoring... I just dunno if I'll be able to deal with the mask.

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 14:04:32
Quote by Random:

Quote by TriSec:

Portable Healthcare?



Hate to tell you Senator McCain, but Senator Kennedy already took care of that. Maybe you've heard about the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act...more commonly known as HIPAA?



It was passed in 1996, you could look it up.



Anyone who made use of COBRA, Healthcare Dependent Accounts, or Family Leave has benefitted from this law.







...Random confused. How can healthcare be portable, since it is an abstract with no real physical body to carry around, so, portablity is a none issue.



Course, Random is a young'n who isn't "hip" to washington.





It's similar to Gay marriage. It's considered "not portable" because a marriage honored in one state may not be honored by another, were the married couple to relocate.



Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 14:05:55
Quote by Random:

Quote by TriSec:

Portable Healthcare?



Hate to tell you Senator McCain, but Senator Kennedy already took care of that. Maybe you've heard about the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act...more commonly known as HIPAA?



It was passed in 1996, you could look it up.



Anyone who made use of COBRA, Healthcare Dependent Accounts, or Family Leave has benefitted from this law.







...Random confused. How can healthcare be portable, since it is an abstract with no real physical body to carry around, so, portablity is a none issue.



Course, Random is a young'n who isn't "hip" to washington.





The card, they give you an insurance card - portable card that is . . .

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 14:08:10
Good morning everyone.



:staggers to blog: At least I got to hear the new lesbian drop from the late, but not lamented Jesse Helms.



This is what happens when your work schedule has you going to bed so late.

Comment by Random on 07/08/2008 14:08:12
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Random:

Quote by TriSec:

Portable Healthcare?



Hate to tell you Senator McCain, but Senator Kennedy already took care of that. Maybe you've heard about the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act...more commonly known as HIPAA?



It was passed in 1996, you could look it up.



Anyone who made use of COBRA, Healthcare Dependent Accounts, or Family Leave has benefitted from this law.







...Random confused. How can healthcare be portable, since it is an abstract with no real physical body to carry around, so, portablity is a none issue.



Course, Random is a young'n who isn't "hip" to washington.





It's similar to Gay marriage. It's considered "not portable" because a marriage honored in one state may not be honored by another, were the married couple to relocate.



Ohh, i see that...doesn't make sense, since portable implies being able to carry easily, while that concept seems more...universal-y to me. or "Country Wide".



Course, again, random not "hip" to that fancy washington lingo that sounds like nothing it really is.



Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 14:09:25
Quote by capt:

Quote by Random:

Quote by TriSec:

Portable Healthcare?



Hate to tell you Senator McCain, but Senator Kennedy already took care of that. Maybe you've heard about the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act...more commonly known as HIPAA?



It was passed in 1996, you could look it up.



Anyone who made use of COBRA, Healthcare Dependent Accounts, or Family Leave has benefitted from this law.







...Random confused. How can healthcare be portable, since it is an abstract with no real physical body to carry around, so, portablity is a none issue.



Course, Random is a young'n who isn't "hip" to washington.





The card, they give you an insurance card - portable card that is . . .


It would be even more portable if we had single payer like the rest of the modern world.

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 14:09:35
COBRA was designed to avoid so-called 'gaps in coverage'.



Prior to the law, your employer insurance ended the day you left the company. While that's still true, you now have the option to stay on the same plan for up to eighteen months while you change jobs or deal with other life issues.





Unfortunately, the law didn't provide any funding streams, so you have to pay for the coverage yourself. Nor does it address the dreaded "pre-existing condition", where insurances can and do routinely decline to cover you because of something that was diagnosed while you had another insurance.













Comment by BobR on 07/08/2008 14:10:02
Quote by Raine:

in Memory of Jessie Helms...



Yes, the day they put an inflatable Condom over his house...





:rofl:

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:10:15
OK, somoen seems to be trolling my phone.



I just got 2 txt messages. (all one message) that says the following:

now that barack has flipped on almost everything he promised to democrat votoers and is going to continue Busg policies expanand faith based initiative and (next message starts) keep "betray-us" as the dems called him, should he select Cheney as VP?




Please note, the spelling of the word Democrat.





Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 14:10:29
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by capt:

Quote by Scoopster:

They are, but I gotta say for the past 5 days I haven't had a problem sleeping OR waking up tired - probably because I'm not flailing around using up energy!




Have you had a "sleep study?"



I was sleep deprived for about 20 years - severe obstructive sleep apnea. Now I have a bi-pap machine and sleep is WAY better.



The reason I ask is flailing (movement and waking) are signs. . .


I haven't yet, but since there's a history of hardcore snoring and/or apnea in my family I'm gonna have one done. My mother uses the ventliator at night too and it stopped her snoring... I just dunno if I'll be able to deal with the mask.




Long story but I ended up with a full face mask versus a nasal mask. I am a mouth breather so . .



It is surprising how quickly one can get used to the mask. I can't sleep without it now. The difference in my mental health is AMAZING - sleep deprivation is a kind of torture. It messes with your mental and physical health.



If you are starved for oxygen in your sleep you will end up with an oversized heart (it tries to pump more blood to make up for low oxygen) high blood pressure (due to the oversized heart) and generally weak immune system due to stress.



Get the sleep study - you might not need a mask - it is an important.







Comment by Random on 07/08/2008 14:14:07
Quote by Raine:

OK, somoen seems to be trolling my phone.



I just got 2 txt messages. (all one message) that says the following:

now that barack has flipped on almost everything he promised to democrat votoers and is going to continue Busg policies expanand faith based initiative and (next message starts) keep "betray-us" as the dems called him, should he select Cheney as VP?




Please note, the spelling of the word Democrat.







Random is definatly overly confused...

So many things wrong with those messages, not to mention the horrid spelling and grammer.



Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 14:14:20
By the By. . . at an Improv performance I asked for a "get" from the audience, asking for favorite breakfast foods. I took the suggestion of "Oatmeal." Before I knew it I was saying "Welcome to LERLENE'S house of Oatmeal; home of the world famous bowl of Oatmeal. . . "







It got a lot of laughs. . . must have been the "lerlene."



Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 14:14:28
He's like Andrew Dice Clay in that he's not funny.

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 14:15:00
Oh great, McCain is a Gambler. Yes, let's hand him the key to the Federal Reserve.



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:15:44
Quote by Raine:

OK, somoen seems to be trolling my phone.



I just got 2 txt messages. (all one message) that says the following:

now that barack has flipped on almost everything he promised to democrat voters and is going to continue Bush policies expand faith based initiative and (next message starts) keep "betray-us" as the dems called him, should he select Cheney as VP?




Please note, the spelling of the word Democrat.



ok I figured out who it was...



Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 14:16:10
Quote by Raine:

OK, somoen seems to be trolling my phone.



I just got 2 txt messages. (all one message) that says the following:

now that barack has flipped on almost everything he promised to democrat votoers and is going to continue Busg policies expanand faith based initiative and (next message starts) keep "betray-us" as the dems called him, should he select Cheney as VP?




Please note, the spelling of the word Democrat.







Sure sounds like the Reich-wingnuttia are getting desperate?





Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 14:16:49
"I was country before country was cool."

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:17:20
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

OK, somoen seems to be trolling my phone.



I just got 2 txt messages. (all one message) that says the following:

now that barack has flipped on almost everything he promised to democrat voters and is going to continue Bush policies expand faith based initiative and (next message starts) keep "betray-us" as the dems called him, should he select Cheney as VP?




Please note, the spelling of the word Democrat.







Random is definatly overly confused...

So many things wrong with those messages, not to mention the horrid spelling and grammer.

I fixed MY typos.



:redface:



Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 14:17:26
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Raine:

OK, somoen seems to be trolling my phone.



I just got 2 txt messages. (all one message) that says the following:

now that barack has flipped on almost everything he promised to democrat voters and is going to continue Bush policies expand faith based initiative and (next message starts) keep "betray-us" as the dems called him, should he select Cheney as VP?




Please note, the spelling of the word Democrat.



ok I figured out who it was...



Fire back, but then again revenge is a dish best served cold.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 14:18:49
Didn't know people could text troll

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:18:56
Ugh. I would rather not waste the txt money. IT doesn't even make sense what the person is trying to say.



Becuase you know. I guess. McCain Flip flopping is good, right?

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 14:19:08
Russ for some activism . . .



2008 Patriot Corps

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 14:20:07
Quote by wickedpam:

Didn't know people could text troll




Trolls can text but their fat fingers always give they away.







Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:20:58
Quote by wickedpam:

Didn't know people could text troll
It is a Right leaning libertarian person I know.



Reverse White pages lookup is your friend. I do suspect however, that this could become more common, with so many numbers to choose from .







Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 14:21:13
throwing a banger down a mine shaft....





Comment by Scoopster on 07/08/2008 14:21:49
Hah!



Just checked one of my many webmail accounts and it looks like there's a new scam-spam going around.. here's a peek:

[ No Subject ]

Saturday, July 5, 2008 5:12 PM

From: "senate.house7"

To: undisclosed-recipients (In other words, they're slick and they BCC'd their spam)



This is to officialy inform you that we have verified your

CONTRACT/INHERITANCE payment of US$6.8M and we the Senate committee on

appropriation and finance have arranged your payment to be paid with an

atm card in regard to an order from MR. President Alhaja Musa Yara'dua

(GCFR) Federan Republic of Nigeria, an ATM card which you will use to

withdraw your money from any ATM Machine in any part of the world have

been approved for you. to receive your ATM card of $6.8 million us

dollars

contact Mr. Richard Mark on this email: [email protected] with the following:

1.full Name 2. Address 3. Phone 4.Your age

5.Occupation




Of course, all you see when at the mail folder menu is an email from "senate.house7"... of course that's gonna grab your attention.

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 14:28:08
Quote by Raine:

It is a Right leaning libertarian person I know.









Aaaigh!



Good thing I'm the left-leaning kind...





Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 14:28:33
I heard I was going to get 10 million dollars if I expanded my penis.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:28:45
Doesn't it depend upon how much you win if you have to file that form?

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:29:34
Ok, that gambling thing makes me even more nervous about McCain.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:31:35
If Iraq wants a timetable for withdrawal, well then it sounds like Iraq agrees with the democratic party.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:32:57
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Raine:

It is a Right leaning libertarian person I know.









Aaaigh!



Good thing I'm the left-leaning kind...



Thus my clarification...



Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 14:33:39
Quote by Raine:

Ok, that gambling thing makes me even more nervous about McCain.




No sh*t Raine. Me too.

That's not much better than a dry drunk...same temper, if not worse.



If my President has to be addicted to something ( we all are, aren't we? ) I would prefer they hit the ole "water pipe!"

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 14:35:01
What would happen if you aborted all Republican babies?



OH!



WHAT?!?!



:: skates to the penalty box ::

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 14:35:26
Quote by Raine:

If Iraq wants a timetable for withdrawal, well then it sounds like Iraq agrees with the democratic party.


But, hey, how can we steal the oil resources if we cut and run?

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 14:36:10
Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 14:37:47
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

If Iraq wants a timetable for withdrawal, well then it sounds like Iraq agrees with the democratic party.


But, hey, how can we steal the oil resources if we cut and run?






Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 14:38:49
I wonder if John McCain has one of those Heart Rate Monitor watches, like the HULK has, to indicate when he should calm down so he doesn't have an embarassing anger episode.





Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 14:41:10
Quote by starling310:

What would happen if you aborted all Republican babies?



OH!



WHAT?!?!



:: skates to the penalty box ::


:tosses Raintini bottle:



When I opened the Huffington Post link, it included an ad for Harrah's Las Vegas at $49 a night.

Comment by Scoopster on 07/08/2008 14:44:04
Quote by capt:

Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by capt:

Quote by Scoopster:

They are, but I gotta say for the past 5 days I haven't had a problem sleeping OR waking up tired - probably because I'm not flailing around using up energy!




Have you had a "sleep study?"



I was sleep deprived for about 20 years - severe obstructive sleep apnea. Now I have a bi-pap machine and sleep is WAY better.



The reason I ask is flailing (movement and waking) are signs. . .


I haven't yet, but since there's a history of hardcore snoring and/or apnea in my family I'm gonna have one done. My mother uses the ventliator at night too and it stopped her snoring... I just dunno if I'll be able to deal with the mask.




Long story but I ended up with a full face mask versus a nasal mask. I am a mouth breather so . .



It is surprising how quickly one can get used to the mask. I can't sleep without it now. The difference in my mental health is AMAZING - sleep deprivation is a kind of torture. It messes with your mental and physical health.



If you are starved for oxygen in your sleep you will end up with an oversized heart (it tries to pump more blood to make up for low oxygen) high blood pressure (due to the oversized heart) and generally weak immune system due to stress.



Get the sleep study - you might not need a mask - it is an important.







I heard it also helps with weight problems in some cases... something that I've struggled with all my life (even with all the walking I do)..

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:45:01
Quote by starling310:

Quote by Raine:

Ok, that gambling thing makes me even more nervous about McCain.




No sh*t Raine. Me too.

That's not much better than a dry drunk...same temper, if not worse.



If my President has to be addicted to something ( we all are, aren't we? ) I would prefer they hit the ole "water pipe!"
I don't see any dif at all between a gambling addiction and a dry drunk.



Jeepers.



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:48:06
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by capt:

Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by capt:

Quote by Scoopster:

They are, but I gotta say for the past 5 days I haven't had a problem sleeping OR waking up tired - probably because I'm not flailing around using up energy!




Have you had a "sleep study?"



I was sleep deprived for about 20 years - severe obstructive sleep apnea. Now I have a bi-pap machine and sleep is WAY better.



The reason I ask is flailing (movement and waking) are signs. . .


I haven't yet, but since there's a history of hardcore snoring and/or apnea in my family I'm gonna have one done. My mother uses the ventliator at night too and it stopped her snoring... I just dunno if I'll be able to deal with the mask.




Long story but I ended up with a full face mask versus a nasal mask. I am a mouth breather so . .



It is surprising how quickly one can get used to the mask. I can't sleep without it now. The difference in my mental health is AMAZING - sleep deprivation is a kind of torture. It messes with your mental and physical health.



If you are starved for oxygen in your sleep you will end up with an oversized heart (it tries to pump more blood to make up for low oxygen) high blood pressure (due to the oversized heart) and generally weak immune system due to stress.



Get the sleep study - you might not need a mask - it is an important.







I heard it also helps with weight problems in some cases... something that I've struggled with all my life (even with all the walking I do)..
Wow.



I have had serious sleeping problems for while now, I was attributing it to a screwed up shoulder, and allergies from living down here... now you have me seriously thinking here.



Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 14:48:28
Is this what we want in the oval office?



* Action gamblers are addicted to the thrill of risk-taking. Gambling itself is their “drug.” They usually gamble with others, since part of the rush is beating the house or other gamblers. Action gamblers usually prefer games of skill, such as card games, craps, and sports betting. They may also play the stock market.



* Escape gamblers gamble to escape emotional pain, worries, and loneliness. Rather than gambling to feel a rush, they gamble to feel numb. Escape gamblers prefer more isolated activities such as slot machines, bingo, and online poker. They also prefer games that don’t require much thought, so they can “zone out.”







While the warning signs of problem gambling can be subtle­, there are some red flags that should put you on alert:



* Secrecy over money and finances

* New desire to control household finances

* Overdue or unpaid bills

* Unexplained loans or cash advances

* Lack of money, despite the same income and expenses

* Unusual increase in credit card activity

* Asking friends and family for money

* Missing jewelry, cash, or valuables

* Dwindling savings or assets

* Missing bank or credit card statements

* Calls or letters from bill collectors

* Unexplained cash, especially when there are unpaid bills



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:49:22
:rofl: that was great caller humour!!! :rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 14:50:17
* Escape gamblers gamble to escape emotional pain, worries, and loneliness. Rather than gambling to feel a rush, they gamble to feel numb. Escape gamblers prefer more isolated activities such as slot machines, bingo, and online poker. They also prefer games that don’t require much thought, so they can “zone out.”






Have you seen me on my last trip to Atlantic City?

Comment by Random on 07/08/2008 14:50:58
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

OK, somoen seems to be trolling my phone.



I just got 2 txt messages. (all one message) that says the following:

now that barack has flipped on almost everything he promised to democrat voters and is going to continue Bush policies expand faith based initiative and (next message starts) keep "betray-us" as the dems called him, should he select Cheney as VP?




Please note, the spelling of the word Democrat.







Random is definatly overly confused...

So many things wrong with those messages, not to mention the horrid spelling and grammer.

I fixed MY typos.



:redface:





hm...well, okay, sorry, i figured it was pure form. still screwie, with enough spelling and grammer screw-ups that i don't trust the person.



In going with my own lack of regard for the written english language, i don't trust myself either.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:51:36
Quote by TriSec:

Is this what we want in the oval office?



* Action gamblers are addicted to the thrill of risk-taking. Gambling itself is their “drug.” They usually gamble with others, since part of the rush is beating the house or other gamblers. Action gamblers usually prefer games of skill, such as card games, craps, and sports betting. They may also play the stock market.



* Escape gamblers gamble to escape emotional pain, worries, and loneliness. Rather than gambling to feel a rush, they gamble to feel numb. Escape gamblers prefer more isolated activities such as slot machines, bingo, and online poker. They also prefer games that don’t require much thought, so they can “zone out.”







While the warning signs of problem gambling can be subtle­, there are some red flags that should put you on alert:



* Secrecy over money and finances

* New desire to control household finances

* Overdue or unpaid bills

* Unexplained loans or cash advances

* Lack of money, despite the same income and expenses

* Unusual increase in credit card activity

* Asking friends and family for money

* Missing jewelry, cash, or valuables

* Dwindling savings or assets

* Missing bank or credit card statements

* Calls or letters from bill collectors

* Unexplained cash, especially when there are unpaid bills

hmmm... is Cindy his enabler?



And how much does he have running on that Amex bill?



Something is not right here.







STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Neil Boortz?!?!







Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 14:52:21
The State Dept asked Steph to go? Are they gonna lock her in the Tower of London?

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:53:36
:waiting: Momma is gonna come back all in love with that fair taxtool, neil boortz.

Comment by BobR on 07/08/2008 14:53:58
Steph better check her plane ticket to make sure it's not one-way... :P

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 14:54:13
He can shove his Tax Credit!



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:54:26
McCain plan will make more employers drop out of helping workers pay for insurance. That nasty f*cker.

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 14:55:56
It sounds like I need to mention my Bush Yo Harper! story.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:56:52
SCREW Ralph Nader. Screw him and his nasty ilk.

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 14:57:55
I'd welcome Mr. Nader in an Obama administration only if he was made Secretary of the newly-created "Department of irrelevant Old Men".





Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 14:58:08
Quote by livingonli:

It sounds like I need to mention my Bush Yo Harper! story.


Sounds like you need to call the show....

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:08:03
Shane-O!



oooOOOooo Harriet V.2...







Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:08:48
:rofl: OMG, that woman!

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:09:26
:rofl: :rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 15:09:42
*snort* :rofl:

Comment by Shane-O on 07/08/2008 15:10:30
I've been going a little crazy trying to get that one done in the last 45 minutes... yikes!

Comment by BobR on 07/08/2008 15:11:35
She sounds like Cloris Leachman in Mel Brooks Frankenstein



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:11:53
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k69/watertiger/CountChocula.jpg


Comment by Scoopster on 07/08/2008 15:14:19
Quote by starling310:

He can shove his Tax Credit!


Speaking of which.. I just got notice yesterday that I'd FINALLY be receiving my Bush Bribe this week. Oh joy.. I'll be almost caught up on my student loan payments again, plus the remainder would pay for my refill of Celebrex and the co-pays for my PT sessions.



Now I have to wonder.. they sent a notice back in like April, and another one now, without sending the actual check yet. I assume they did this with everyone..



How much fucking money and paper and postal service fuel costs could these morons saved by not sending these damn notices, since THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD knew we were getting payoffs thanks to their PR campaign?!?!?!

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 15:15:03
Don't Hassle the Hoff!

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:15:11


Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 15:15:20
Quote by Shane-O:

I've been going a little crazy trying to get that one done in the last 45 minutes... yikes!




That was GREAT!



I love that stuff.



Thanks



Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 15:17:07
The link to the original story has expired, but nevertheless...



Rebate checks notice letters to cost $42m.



March 7, 2008 | Posted By Editor Comments / Questions (0) | print this article



We all know every time the government makes a concerted effort to do anything, there's more red tape than at a marathon supply dealer trade show. The latest evidence?



Rebate letters to cost $42 million



And, "It doesn't include the tab for another round of mailings planned for those who didn't file tax returns last year but may still qualify for a rebate."



As a future recipient of one such rebate (and requisite notice letter), I think I speak for recipients everywhere when I say: just add the price for the stamp for this one to my rebate check.



I think this more than offsets the "energy-saving" "innovative" approach to publishing the budget, when Bush and folk patted themselves on the back for distributing it digitally.



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:17:46
Quote by BobR:

She sounds like Cloris Leachman in Mel Brooks Frankenstein





Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 15:19:39
I always thought the Queen Mum kinda rocked.

Comment by BobR on 07/08/2008 15:21:55
Quote by TriSec:

The link to the original story has expired, but nevertheless...



Rebate checks notice letters to cost $42m.



March 7, 2008 | Posted By Editor Comments / Questions (0) | print this article



We all know every time the government makes a concerted effort to do anything, there's more red tape than at a marathon supply dealer trade show. The latest evidence?



Rebate letters to cost $42 million



And, "It doesn't include the tab for another round of mailings planned for those who didn't file tax returns last year but may still qualify for a rebate."



As a future recipient of one such rebate (and requisite notice letter), I think I speak for recipients everywhere when I say: just add the price for the stamp for this one to my rebate check.



I think this more than offsets the "energy-saving" "innovative" approach to publishing the budget, when Bush and folk patted themselves on the back for distributing it digitally.



I think it was a scheme to prop up the Postal Service...

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:24:49
:banana: James Brown! :prince:

Comment by BobR on 07/08/2008 15:24:52
"Hi - I'm Beth"

"And I'm Jody"

"And we're the owners of West Valley Two Dykes and a Truck"

"Come see us - we'll be the one's with the bad mullets, work shirts with the sleeves torn off, work boots, and hairy armpits..."



Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 15:25:46
one of us. ONE OF US!

:foil:

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 15:26:47
Quote by Raine:

:banana: James Brown! :prince:


Dance for us, Raine.

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 15:26:54
Quote by BobR:

Quote by TriSec:

The link to the original story has expired, but nevertheless...



Rebate checks notice letters to cost $42m.



March 7, 2008 | Posted By Editor Comments / Questions (0) | print this article



We all know every time the government makes a concerted effort to do anything, there's more red tape than at a marathon supply dealer trade show. The latest evidence?



Rebate letters to cost $42 million



And, "It doesn't include the tab for another round of mailings planned for those who didn't file tax returns last year but may still qualify for a rebate."



As a future recipient of one such rebate (and requisite notice letter), I think I speak for recipients everywhere when I say: just add the price for the stamp for this one to my rebate check.



I think this more than offsets the "energy-saving" "innovative" approach to publishing the budget, when Bush and folk patted themselves on the back for distributing it digitally.



I think it was a scheme to prop up the Postal Service...




WOW - I had not thought of that. The USPS must be dying.



It makes as much sense than anything.



Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 15:27:50
Again, I must disagree. Atlantic Standard Time is New Brunswick!



Unless there's some obscure island off the East Coast that I'm not aware of.





Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 15:28:47
Quote by BobR:

"Hi - I'm Beth"

"And I'm Jody"

"And we're the owners of West Valley Two Dykes and a Truck"

"Come see us - we'll be the one's with the bad mullets, work shirts with the sleeves torn off, work boots, and hairy armpits..."







Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 15:29:15
Quote by TriSec:

Again, I must disagree. Atlantic Standard Time is New Brunswick!



Unless there's some obscure island off the East Coast that I'm not aware of.





Puerto Rico is in the Atlantic Time Zone. At least we don't have Newfoundland time.

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 15:29:19
The Yo! Harper! story!



Comment by Shane-O on 07/08/2008 15:29:30
4F strory on deck! "YO HARPER!" -heh...

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 15:32:46
That man is such an embrassment.

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 15:33:54
Quote by wickedpam:

That man is such an embrassment.


Did you read our posts from last night. We really had fun with that story.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 15:36:47
Don't usually wander through the evening blog - too sleepy :)

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:37:37
Yo! Yo! Yo!.... he makes me weep for my country.

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 15:37:37
Ashy skin is butch; it's real macho-like. Heh heh.



Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 15:38:05
Quote by wickedpam:

Don't usually wander through the evening blog - too sleepy :)


You miss some funny stuff.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:38:35
You know, Republicans can fill stadiums too. Look at the AstroDome and the Superdome...

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 15:40:16
Quote by Raine:

You know, Republicans can fill stadiums too. Look at the AstroDome and the Superdome...




ooooohh....





Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:42:34
Rumour yesterday was that John Kerry is on the VP list...

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:45:19
Bruno Strikes in Arkansas!!!



Omg...
Lured by $1 beer and the prospect of "hot chicks" and "hardcore fights," thousands of Arkansans were duped last month into appearing as extras in comedian Sacha Baron Cohen's latest staged mayhem. Cohen and his confederates organized cage fighting programs on consecutive days in Texarkana and Fort Smith. Both cards ended with two male grapplers (one was identified as "Straight Dave" and wore camouflage) tearing each other's clothes off and, while in underwear, kissing down their opponent's chest. This man-on-man action triggered Fort Smith fans to throw chairs and beer at the ring, according to one cop present at the city's Convention Center.








Comment by clintster on 07/08/2008 15:46:24
OK, I missed the international announcement. What's up with this? London? Mookless week? Neil BOORTZ? Fill me in, someone!

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 15:47:05
Quote by Raine:

Bruno Strikes in Arkansas!!!



Omg...
Lured by $1 beer and the prospect of "hot chicks" and "hardcore fights," thousands of Arkansans were duped last month into appearing as extras in comedian Sacha Baron Cohen's latest staged mayhem. Cohen and his confederates organized cage fighting programs on consecutive days in Texarkana and Fort Smith. Both cards ended with two male grapplers (one was identified as "Straight Dave" and wore camouflage) tearing each other's clothes off and, while in underwear, kissing down their opponent's chest. This man-on-man action triggered Fort Smith fans to throw chairs and beer at the ring, according to one cop present at the city's Convention Center.










That is too funny!



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:48:42
Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 15:50:10
After Kerry betrayed us all in 2004, I swore I would never vote for him again. I would prefer that Sen. Obama not back me into that corner.





Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:50:25
Quote by clintster:

OK, I missed the international announcement. What's up with this? London? Mookless week? Neil BOORTZ? Fill me in, someone!
Next week Momma is going to Dublin and London for 2 days to talk about American Media at the request of Neil Boortz and the State department.



The mooks will be in studio with Frangela.



Comment by BobR on 07/08/2008 15:51:38
Quote by Raine:

Bruno Strikes in Arkansas!!!



Omg...

Lured by $1 beer and the prospect of "hot chicks" and "hardcore fights," thousands of Arkansans were duped last month into appearing as extras in comedian Sacha Baron Cohen's latest staged mayhem. Cohen and his confederates organized cage fighting programs on consecutive days in Texarkana and Fort Smith. Both cards ended with two male grapplers (one was identified as "Straight Dave" and wore camouflage) tearing each other's clothes off and, while in underwear, kissing down their opponent's chest. This man-on-man action triggered Fort Smith fans to throw chairs and beer at the ring, according to one cop present at the city's Convention Center.






Love it!! :rofl:

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 15:55:13
"get off of my back"

Comment by BobR on 07/08/2008 15:55:14
Young Frankenstein?



Thank-you.

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 15:55:31
:: jerry seinfeld :: "Who ARE these people?"

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:55:32
:rofl: that is one your best drops!!!

Comment by m-hadley on 07/08/2008 15:56:31
I sent in that story :P

Cheers,

mfaye

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 15:57:26
Quote by starling310:

:: jerry seinfeld :: "Who ARE these people?"
{nice}



Speaking of who are these people...





PLEASE tell me this is satire.

Comment by clintster on 07/08/2008 15:59:43
Quote by Raine:

Quote by clintster:

OK, I missed the international announcement. What's up with this? London? Mookless week? Neil BOORTZ? Fill me in, someone!
Next week Momma is going to Dublin and London for 2 days to talk about American Media at the request of Neil Boortz and the State department.



The mooks will be in studio with Frangela.





OK, I got it now, but... Boortz? Really?





Really??!?

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 15:59:55
Quote by m-hadley:

I sent in that story :P

Cheers,

mfaye






Too cool for school! *high fives*





Comment by Scoopster on 07/08/2008 16:00:14
Poll: Where do you stand today?



The results so far are pretty damn telling..

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 16:01:00
Sadly, yes, really, Clint.



I am NOT looking forward to her coming back and suddenly all in love with that crazy loon.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 16:02:49
Listening to the news... uhm... isn't that already specified in the constitution... that the president can't go to war without congressional approval?







Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 16:03:18
Quote by clintster:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by clintster:

OK, I missed the international announcement. What's up with this? London? Mookless week? Neil BOORTZ? Fill me in, someone!
Next week Momma is going to Dublin and London for 2 days to talk about American Media at the request of Neil Boortz and the State department.



The mooks will be in studio with Frangela.





OK, I got it now, but... Boortz? Really?





Really??!?


I guess that's what happens when you vacation in the same place.

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:04:18
I know it's hot out, but would it KILL my company to turn down the A/C to. . . I don't know. . . warmer than 60!!!



Chauvinists...the only reason it's this cold is so the boys can wear their stupid 3 piece suits!!



Comment by clintster on 07/08/2008 16:06:11
Quote by Raine:

Sadly, yes, really, Clint.



I am NOT looking forward to her coming back and suddenly all in love with that crazy loon.




OK, I can take her little crush on Hannity and her friendship with Laura Ingraham, but if she ends up singing the praises of Atlanta's Own Waste of Skin, I may have to





Comment by clintster on 07/08/2008 16:08:30
All righty then, in case you weren't aware...



Silly Internet Traditions: A Concise History

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:09:15
Sometimes it sounds like Thom gets tired of repeating the same logical examples over and over to thick heads.



Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 16:15:46
Quote by clintster:

Quote by Raine:

Sadly, yes, really, Clint.



I am NOT looking forward to her coming back and suddenly all in love with that crazy loon.




OK, I can take her little crush on Hannity and her friendship with Laura Ingraham, but if she ends up singing the praises of Atlanta's Own Waste of Skin, I may have to







Opposites have more in common than random pairs. Al Franken is good friends with G Gordon Liddy, Kucinich and Ron Paul are suppose to be friendly.



Just sayin'



Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 16:17:32
Fringe benefits? What the hell are those? :scratchhead:

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 16:20:07
The Republican mantra: I'm wealthy. I don't want to pay taxes. I don't give a shit about anyone else. Just give me my money!

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 16:21:22
Quote by livingonli:

The Republican mantra: I'm wealthy. I don't want to pay taxes. I don't give a shit about anyone else. Just give me my money!






Worse, some GOPers think poverty is a disease or a "lifestyle" choice.



Grrrrrrr.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 16:23:15
From DCRTV



Wolfson Joins Fox News - 7/8 - Fox News is expected to announce today the hiring of Howard Wolfson, who was a strategist for the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton.....



Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 16:23:20
If the wealthy willingly paid their fair share for the common good there would be no reason for taxes. The insane thing is taxing low or even medium wages. It makes little or no sense.

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 16:24:17
Quote by capt:

Quote by livingonli:

The Republican mantra: I'm wealthy. I don't want to pay taxes. I don't give a shit about anyone else. Just give me my money!






Worse, some GOPers think poverty is a disease or a "lifestyle" choice.



Grrrrrrr.


Yeah, it was my choice to get laid off, be out of work for 6 months than have to settle for less money just so I had a paycheck and benefits again.



Yeah, right.

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:25:45
Quote by wickedpam:

Fringe benefits? What the hell are those? :scratchhead:




Working in a frigid, air conditioned building?



Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 16:25:57
Quote by wickedpam:

From DCRTV



Wolfson Joins Fox News - 7/8 - Fox News is expected to announce today the hiring of Howard Wolfson, who was a strategist for the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton.....



After all, Fox was "fair and balanced" to the Hillary campaign.

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:27:21
Wow...is rose 25% to what? $7?



Yeah, you can raise a family on $7/hour.

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:28:01
I wonder if Thom has a small tack hammer that he hits himself with during the breaks.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 16:30:29
Quote by starling310:

Quote by wickedpam:

Fringe benefits? What the hell are those? :scratchhead:




Working in a frigid, air conditioned building?







Oh I thought it might be I got a chair to sit on while I worked.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 16:31:18
Quote by starling310:

Wow...is rose 25% to what? $7?



Yeah, you can raise a family on $7/hour.




And that's not even until 2009. I think on July 14th it goes from 5.25 to 6-something



Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:34:38
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by wickedpam:

Fringe benefits? What the hell are those? :scratchhead:




Working in a frigid, air conditioned building?







Oh I thought it might be I got a chair to sit on while I worked.




That too.





Comment by BobR on 07/08/2008 16:39:41
Quote by starling310:

I know it's hot out, but would it KILL my company to turn down the A/C to. . . I don't know. . . warmer than 60!!!



Chauvinists...the only reason it's this cold is so the boys can wear their stupid 3 piece suits!!



um... it also "turns the headlights on" on the ladies....



don't think that hasn't been considered... ;)

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 16:41:23
Pickens Plan



Hmmmmmm - an oil guy eh?

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:43:41
Yes, it's an illness. . . it's called GREED.



Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 16:45:01
We have a local minimum wage:





The wage, which will mirror Albuquerque's minimum, jumps to $7.15 on Jan. 1, 2008, and to $7.50 on Jan. 1, 2009. Employers who provide at least $2,500 worth of health care or child care benefits will be required to pay similar graduated increases, but the wages will be $1 less per hour.







HERE



Some businesses fought against it but it has created more jobs and it has helped.

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:46:16
Quote by BobR:

Quote by starling310:

I know it's hot out, but would it KILL my company to turn down the A/C to. . . I don't know. . . warmer than 60!!!



Chauvinists...the only reason it's this cold is so the boys can wear their stupid 3 piece suits!!



um... it also "turns the headlights on" on the ladies....



don't think that hasn't been considered... ;)




I walk around with arms folded for 4 months!





Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 16:48:05
Highbeams - check!

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:50:36
Quote by capt:

Highbeams - check!










( hi stan )

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 16:50:54
Quote by starling310:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by starling310:

I know it's hot out, but would it KILL my company to turn down the A/C to. . . I don't know. . . warmer than 60!!!



Chauvinists...the only reason it's this cold is so the boys can wear their stupid 3 piece suits!!



um... it also "turns the headlights on" on the ladies....



don't think that hasn't been considered... ;)




I walk around with arms folded for 4 months!





Take that, chauvinists.

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:52:41
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by starling310:

I know it's hot out, but would it KILL my company to turn down the A/C to. . . I don't know. . . warmer than 60!!!



Chauvinists...the only reason it's this cold is so the boys can wear their stupid 3 piece suits!!



um... it also "turns the headlights on" on the ladies....



don't think that hasn't been considered... ;)




I walk around with arms folded for 4 months!





Take that, chauvinists.




:fbump:





Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:53:23
Yeah, we bought the iPods and the Cell Phones and the FLAVEN!

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:53:55
You got to pick a pocket or two. . .

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:58:24
Ronnie Deutsch?!?

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 16:59:01
:: bounty 2-ply :: :: wipes up muse ::



Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 17:00:31
Quote by starling310:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by starling310:

Quote by BobR:

Quote by starling310:

I know it's hot out, but would it KILL my company to turn down the A/C to. . . I don't know. . . warmer than 60!!!



Chauvinists...the only reason it's this cold is so the boys can wear their stupid 3 piece suits!!



um... it also "turns the headlights on" on the ladies....



don't think that hasn't been considered... ;)




I walk around with arms folded for 4 months!





Take that, chauvinists.




:fbump:





Back at ya.

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 17:02:41
Quote by starling310:

Ronnie Deutsch?!?


I hope that's not the annoying woman I hear in the commercials who used to say she would settle your tax disputes for 20 dollars with the Noo Yawk accent.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 17:10:53
Ok, facebook is REALLY good at getting me to touch base with old friends.





OH.... and Ronnie(on Thom right now) sounds screachy. Breath sister, TALK. Talk....debate and not scream.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 17:11:38
Quote by starling310:

You got to pick a pocket or two. . .




Theme song of the Bush Administration



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 17:13:11
Ronnie does not know how to debate.



Terry Jeffries get's more respect from me than this chiclet.

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 17:13:39
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by starling310:

Ronnie Deutsch?!?


I hope that's not the annoying woman I hear in the commercials who used to say she would settle your tax disputes for 20 dollars with the Noo Yawk accent.


I think that is the woman who's on with Thom right now.

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 17:14:44
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

You got to pick a pocket or two. . .




Theme song of the Bush Administration







Or "War Pigs?"



Does Dumya even deserve a theme song?





Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 17:15:23
I don't think I've ever heard Thom's voice get that high.



Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 17:16:26
Quote by capt:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

You got to pick a pocket or two. . .




Theme song of the Bush Administration







Or "War Pigs?"



Does Dumya even deserve a theme song?





If he deserved one, that would be the most appropriate.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 17:18:20
Quote by Raine:

Ronnie does not know how to debate.



Terry Jeffries get's more respect from me than this chiclet.




She sounds like she was trying to do an infomercial.



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 17:18:39
Quote by wickedpam:

From DCRTV



Wolfson Joins Fox News - 7/8 - Fox News is expected to announce today the hiring of Howard Wolfson, who was a strategist for the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton.....



I posted this earlier.



I am wondering if Howard has paid ANY attention to the left at all. FAIR AND BALANCED?!?!?







Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 17:18:56
Quote by capt:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

You got to pick a pocket or two. . .




Theme song of the Bush Administration







Or "War Pigs?"



Does Dumya even deserve a theme song?







They're coming to take me away, Ha-Haaaaaa!!!







Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 17:19:52
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Ronnie does not know how to debate.



Terry Jeffries get's more respect from me than this chiclet.




She sounds like she was trying to do an infomercial.

Tanya? Why was she replaced with Rosanne?



Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 17:21:04
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by capt:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

You got to pick a pocket or two. . .




Theme song of the Bush Administration







Or "War Pigs?"



Does Dumya even deserve a theme song?







They're coming to take me away, Ha-Haaaaaa!!!







Even better.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 17:22:27
Quote by starling310:

Quote by capt:

Highbeams - check!










( hi stan )




Well hello, hello ....





:rofl:



Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 17:34:39
Ooooo baby!

Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/08/2008 17:40:00
Quote by Raine:

Quote by clintster:

OK, I missed the international announcement. What's up with this? London? Mookless week? Neil BOORTZ? Fill me in, someone!
Next week Momma is going to Dublin and London for 2 days to talk about American Media at the request of Neil Boortz and the State department.



The mooks will be in studio with Frangela.





Why is the State Department paying Stephanie and Neil Bortz (of all people) to speak about the American Media in London and Dublin? Is the NAB involved, too? Something smells extremely fishy. I don't like the way our tax dollars are being spent. I need the rest of the story. Good day!



Hi Stan!

Comment by Shane-O on 07/08/2008 17:44:06
Quote by capt:

"get off of my back"
Video-style:





Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 17:51:37
why did i put raw onion in my salad!?!?

i really should know better.



Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 17:53:50
feeling a bit dyspeptic. . .



damn onion!



F*ckin' Frank!



Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 18:10:44
Nancy Pelosi asked John Conyers not to use Inherent Contempt? Oh my Gosh! I am shocked. :sarcasm:







disclaimer: Thom mentioned it as a rumor. It may not be true.



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 18:14:06
Quote by starling310:

Nancy Pelosi asked John Conyers not to use Inherent Contempt? Oh my Gosh! I am shocked. :sarcasm:
Ok, well I asked for a million dollars, that doesn't mena I should get it.



She needs to go.



Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 18:20:24
Quote by starling310:

why did i put raw onion in my salad!?!?

i really should know better.







Onions are evil don't you know that.

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 18:21:30
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

why did i put raw onion in my salad!?!?

i really should know better.







Onions are evil don't you know that.




It was the bleeding heart liberal in me, wanting to give them another chance. I was hoping they'd changed their ways. I AM SUCH A COMMIE!





Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 18:21:39
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by capt:

"get off of my back"
Video-style:







OMG - that is a ROLL!!!



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 18:23:25
Regarding Pelosi, a conference call From June 23rd...







I gotta wonder about her laughing. I am NOT pleased. It happens about 2:30 into the call.

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 18:24:52
US moves against Iran



How important is the 20th ammendment now?



FDR justified running for more terms due to WWII, I can readily invision Bush (and by extension his surrogate) advocating "staying in office" to handle the ongoing warron terra...





Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 18:25:49
Quote by starling310:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by starling310:

why did i put raw onion in my salad!?!?

i really should know better.







Onions are evil don't you know that.




It was the bleeding heart liberal in me, wanting to give them another chance. I was hoping they'd changed their ways. I AM SUCH A COMMIE!







Some have some haven't - don't know which since lump then altogether and evil along with mayo.

<--ick!

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 18:27:26
SCREW what the repubs do Nancy, stop worrying about them and do what you are supposed to do CONSTITUTIONALLY. She needs to stop pointing fingers and start doing the people's work. I am tiring of her always saying how bad the Repubs are, WE KNOW! What we want is for you Nany Pelosi is to start doing what needs to be done!!!





Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 18:30:16
Quote by TriSec:

US moves against Iran



How important is the 20th ammendment now?



FDR justified running for more terms due to WWII, I can readily invision Bush (and by extension his surrogate) advocating "staying in office" to handle the ongoing warron terra...



b.b.b.b What about the American companies doing business with Iran???



Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 18:30:39
F--k tha Republicans.

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 18:30:48
Quote by Raine:

SCREW what the repubs do Nancy, stop worrying about them and do what you are supposed to do CONSTITUTIONALLY. She needs to stop pointing fingers and start doing the people's work. I am tiring of her always saying how bad the Repubs are, WE KNOW! What we want is for you Nany Pelosi is to start doing what needs to be done!!!







One of my greatest fears: D's get supermajorities in congress and the senate and the top slot and nothing changes with the direction of our police state. UGH!







Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 18:37:20
Just for reference, the US slapped a "crippling" embargo on Imperial Japan in August of 1941. Although the planning had been underway since at least 1940, that was the final straw on the way to Pearl Harbor some 4 months later.



4 months from today is November 8th.



:foil: :foil: :foil:

Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/08/2008 18:43:46
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

Nancy Pelosi asked John Conyers not to use Inherent Contempt? Oh my Gosh! I am shocked. :sarcasm:
Ok, well I asked for a million dollars, that doesn't mena I should get it.



She needs to go.





Yes, Raine, she does, and she can use the same exit door as Feinstein. Feh.



And now I can forget the things that were annoying me this morning. Shane-O has made me laugh with his wonderful flair for the funny. You, sir, are a delight!



Do you like the red onions, Star? I do love them, but they tend to revisit sometimes when I eat them raw. :burp:

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 18:45:41
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

Nancy Pelosi asked John Conyers not to use Inherent Contempt? Oh my Gosh! I am shocked. :sarcasm:
Ok, well I asked for a million dollars, that doesn't mena I should get it.



She needs to go.





Yes, Raine, she does, and she can use the same exit door as Feinstein. Feh.



And now I can forget the things that were annoying me this morning. Shane-O has made me laugh with his wonderful flair for the funny. You, sir, are a delight!



Do you like the red onions, Star? I do love them, but they tend to revisit sometimes when I eat them raw. :burp:




C'est la onion de rouge. Oui!

------> <------- star's coworkers



I find that sweet yellow onions don't give me as much trouble.

But, the red ones are little bastids.



Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 18:50:00
Holy shite, this day is cruising! :sprint:

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 18:55:08
HA! David ( a right wing tool ) was on the line to argue with Thom...but he 'ont know how this phone radio thing works. LERLEEN! WHY CAN'T I TALK TO THOM THROUGH THE RADIO? LERLEEEEN!



David. You just made my day.



:: thom :: "David. You want to tell me how great McCain's economic policy is?"





"David?"







"David?"











TOOL!



Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 19:23:08
Obama Issues Response To RNC Attack Ad







Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 19:27:21
My boss sent this too me and I thought I would share.









Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 19:32:35
<------------- Is the Who is She? Answer in the Poll an homage to When Harry Met Sally?



"You're getting married?"

"You are."

"Who is she?"



Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 19:36:18
I don't get Randi's issue with this. Yes, it's Cheesy! Half of Marketing strategies out there ARE. But, isn't it great that we have a candidate that makes people WANT to meet him!!!??





Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 19:37:35
Quote by starling310:

<------------- Is the Who is She? Answer in the Poll an homage to When Harry Met Sally?



"You're getting married?"

"You are."

"Who is she?"

:thud: I thought that was the MOST obscure reference ever and I did not think ANYONE would ever get it!



:clap: awesome! you rok!



Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 19:40:24
So, who wants to enter the win a chance to see Obama speak contest?

Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 19:41:25
Quote by Raine:

Quote by starling310:

<------------- Is the Who is She? Answer in the Poll an homage to When Harry Met Sally?



"You're getting married?"

"You are."

"Who is she?"

:thud: I thought that was the MOST obscure reference ever and I did not think ANYONE would ever get it!



:clap: awesome! you rok!









Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 19:48:40
Wasn't Randi, JUST YESTERDAY, talking about Stopping the Whining?



Eh hem.



No further questions your honor.



Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 19:49:28
John McCain can't handle Vet question over GI Bill





Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 19:49:35
Quote by wickedpam:

My boss sent this too me and I thought I would share.









:rofl:



That was great!



you know,,, this actually is one of my Fave performances from Woodstock. Joe Cocker actually does air guitar... except, he plays ALL the instruments... it is amazing.



Really, next time you get a chance, watch him, he plays the bass, the guitar, the drums... he is airing out ALL the instruments.

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 19:50:29
Quote by starling310:

Wasn't Randi, JUST YESTERDAY, talking about Stopping the Whining?



Eh hem.



No further questions your honor.

Thank you madam the defense rests.



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 19:54:37
Quote by livingonli:

So, who wants to enter the win a chance to see Obama speak contest?


Hmm... I wanna write in and get all the harriets to go see him speak... Harriet and Ms Choculas and all the PUMA's... ;)

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 20:08:18
Quote by Raine:

Quote by livingonli:

So, who wants to enter the win a chance to see Obama speak contest?


Hmm... I wanna write in and get all the harriets to go see him speak... Harriet and Ms Choculas and all the PUMA's... ;)






I wouldn't know what to wear.

Comment by livingonli on 07/08/2008 20:12:16
Time to head off to the salt mine. I may not get much time to blog tonight since I am doing AD work tonight on the Liberty game for MSG so it will be a little busy tonight.



So if I don't talk to anyone until tomorrow. Have a wonderful evening.

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 20:13:12
OM-effin-G!!



The new ad is being portrayed as a negative attack ad?



WTF?



Obama ad attacks McCain on energy solutions

By JIM KUHNHENN – 1 hour ago



WASHINGTON (AP) — In his first negative ad of the general election campaign, Democrat Barack Obama says John McCain is "part of the problem" on energy, tackling an issue that is quickly becoming the top worry of voters.







HERE



I am lost for words . . .

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 20:14:00
Have a great evening Liv!





Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 20:15:44
Quote by livingonli:

Time to head off to the salt mine. I may not get much time to blog tonight since I am doing AD work tonight on the Liberty game for MSG so it will be a little busy tonight.



So if I don't talk to anyone until tomorrow. Have a wonderful evening.




:fbump:

Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 20:15:47
Quote by capt:

John McCain can't handle Vet question over GI Bill





Holy crap, capt. So he spews talking points, takes credit for the GI Bill and then slams Jim Webb and THEN says he doesn't know what the questions was?!?!?! This man is insane. totally insane.

Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 20:21:01
Pigs at the trough...



Thanks to LR over on the message board...



Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 20:21:48
Quote by capt:

OM-effin-G!!



The new ad is being portrayed as a negative attack ad?



WTF?



Obama ad attacks McCain on energy solutions

By JIM KUHNHENN – 1 hour ago



WASHINGTON (AP) — In his first negative ad of the general election campaign, Democrat Barack Obama says John McCain is "part of the problem" on energy, tackling an issue that is quickly becoming the top worry of voters.







HERE



I am lost for words . . .
"Quickly becoming" a top issue?



The AP is once again showing it's lack of Journalistic capability. This is so far from an attack ad it isn't funny. I am very tired of what they have been doing. if they are going to source something out, and say that it is an attack ad, have a little credibility... question the party you have decided to attack.



The AP would not know an attack if it hit them front on.



Once again, you get to see how badly the media is when it comes to American politics. They are fairly useless. I preer to get my information from the interyounetfacetubes.



Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 20:22:16
McCain makes me want to take crochet needles - shove them deeply in my ears and scoop out my eardrums just to make it stop. .



It scares me that this nut is in a position to even consider a run for top dawg.



When will we get to see them side by side in a debate? THAT is going to be interesting - such contrasts. Tall short, old young, white dark, smart dumb, etc.



I still think Barack is so much better a candidate - by the time it is over I bet even McCain will want to vote for him. . . (seriously)





Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 20:26:48
Quote by TriSec:

Pigs at the trough...



Thanks to LR over on the message board...

Stunning. the Gluttony and the total irony is lost on these people.



Let them eat cake....



Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 20:32:17
As usual, the "president" is talking out of both sides of his arse on Iran...



Get a load of what we trade with them, though...



WASHINGTON - U.S. exports to Iran — including brassieres, bull semen, cosmetics and possibly even weapons — grew more than tenfold during President Bush’s years in office even as he accused Iran of nuclear ambitions and helping terrorists. America sent more cigarettes to Iran, at least $158 million worth under Bush, than any other products.



Other surprising shipments to Iran during the Bush administration: fur clothing, sculptures, perfume and musical instruments. Top states shipping goods to Iran include California, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio and Wisconsin, according to an analysis by The Associated Press of seven years of U.S. government trade data.



Despite increasingly tough rhetoric toward Iran, which Bush has called part of an “axis of evil,” U.S. trade in a range of goods survives on-again, off-again sanctions originally imposed nearly three decades ago. The rules allow sales of agricultural commodities, medicine and a few other categories of goods. The exemptions are designed to help Iranian families even as the United States pressures Iran’s leaders.



“Our sanctions are targeted against the regime, not the people,” said Adam Szubin, director of the Treasury Department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control, which enforces the sanctions. The government tracks exports to Iran using details from shipping records, but in some cases it’s unclear whether anyone pays attention.


Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 20:36:12
Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

Pigs at the trough...



Thanks to LR over on the message board...

Stunning. the Gluttony and the total irony is lost on these people.



Let them eat cake....





The "pigs" disgust me. They have done this before - maybe last years "hunger conference" or something like that - the menu then was as insane.



I think they know how well they eat - they likely demand it - now THEY are some bastard people and I hate their ass-faces!







Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 20:43:49
I think we need a "bastard people" audioicon?





Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 20:48:40
John McCain Exhibiting Symptoms of Early Alzheimer's? (Video intensive)



*****



AAAARRRRGGGGHHH how is this guy even running? It is just plain crazy-talk.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 20:50:32
Capt - do you mean knitting needles? In crochet you use a hook.

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 20:56:06
Quote by wickedpam:

Capt - do you mean knitting needles? In crochet you use a hook.




Specifically using the hook to pluck out my eardrums . . .



It is worse than just wanting to poke them with knitting needles.



(I actually know how to crochet a little)







Comment by starling310 on 07/08/2008 20:57:17
Quote by wickedpam:

Capt - do you mean knitting needles? In crochet you use a hook.




:spit:



:rofl:

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 21:08:40
Quote by capt:

Quote by wickedpam:

Capt - do you mean knitting needles? In crochet you use a hook.




Specifically using the hook to pluck out my eardrums . . .



It is worse than just wanting to poke them with knitting needles.



(I actually know how to crochet a little)











I love to crochet and I knit a little so the image of the hook and the eardurm - *shiver* :thud:



Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/08/2008 21:15:27
Quote by capt:

Quote by wickedpam:

Capt - do you mean knitting needles? In crochet you use a hook.




Specifically using the hook to pluck out my eardrums . . .



It is worse than just wanting to poke them with knitting needles.



(I actually know how to crochet a little)









Do you know how to cook? Is there a Mrs. Capt?



Actually, this is what I want to do when I hear Laura Ingraham.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/08/2008 21:21:55
night guys! :hug:

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 22:00:02
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by capt:

Quote by wickedpam:

Capt - do you mean knitting needles? In crochet you use a hook.




Specifically using the hook to pluck out my eardrums . . .



It is worse than just wanting to poke them with knitting needles.



(I actually know how to crochet a little)









Do you know how to cook? Is there a Mrs. Capt?



Actually, this is what I want to do when I hear Laura Ingraham.




I do cook, and clean and shop. There is a better half (Joy). I make some BOMB green chili chicken soup and my green chili BBQ chicken is to die for. I have a secret that I share with everybody - Garlic Festival® Foods : : Garli Garni.



We buy the big one (low salt) and I use it on everything it is most tasty (if you like garlic).





Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 22:06:27
BTW -



I'll put this out again when it happens but . ..



If any of you'all shop at the Gap, Old Navy or Banana Republic - Joy works for them and twice a year we get a stack of "friends and family" coupons. The coupons are on top of any sale or store prices and are 20-30% off (depending on which store).



The coupons are timed for "back to school" (July-Aug) and for Xmas (Nov-Dec) .



If interested shoot me a snail mail address at [email protected]



My sister has saved hundreds in back to school every year (three teens).









Comment by Raine on 07/08/2008 22:13:47
Anyone listening to to Farius?



HE is playing the youtube that faye sent to Momma and is on her facebook. Who exactly IS offended and why was this woman arrested???

Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/08/2008 22:17:38
Quote by capt:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Quote by capt:

Quote by wickedpam:

Capt - do you mean knitting needles? In crochet you use a hook.




Specifically using the hook to pluck out my eardrums . . .



It is worse than just wanting to poke them with knitting needles.



(I actually know how to crochet a little)









Do you know how to cook? Is there a Mrs. Capt?



Actually, this is what I want to do when I hear Laura Ingraham.




I do cook, and clean and shop. There is a better half (Joy). I make some BOMB green chili chicken soup and my green chili BBQ chicken is to die for. I have a secret that I share with everybody - Garlic Festival® Foods : : Garli Garni.



We buy the big one (low salt) and I use it on everything it is most tasty (if you like garlic).







Sounds nummy! There's a restaurant in these here parts that is all garlic all the time - everything is loaded with the clove. No kissing after eating at this place, that's for suresies.

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 22:24:28
Quote by Raine:

Anyone listening to to Farius?



HE is playing the youtube that faye sent to Momma and is on her facebook. Who exactly IS offended and why was this woman arrested???




I think it is too funny that the GOP DOESN'T want their candidate associated with the sitting prez?



It is like when the Reich-wingnuts scream about "swiftboating" McCain I only hear a tacit admission that they KNOW darn well what liars and what a smear it was - why else would they use the term in such a way?



They do this and more with a straight face - it is truly political Monty Python.





Comment by TriSec on 07/08/2008 22:33:11
Quote by capt:

John McCain Exhibiting Symptoms of Early Alzheimer's? (Video intensive)



*****



AAAARRRRGGGGHHH how is this guy even running? It is just plain crazy-talk.




From the article:



"I am a registered nurse, and I know that Alzheimer's cannot truly be diagnosed with 100% accuracy without an autopsy...."



Well, I'm all for that. Let's start now!



Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 22:44:53
Obama’s Remarks to the League of United Latin American Citizens



I still like reading his speeches - some of it is boilerplate and some is wrote but . . .









Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 22:50:23
The Illinois Senator is asked by a voter about accusations of flip-flopping at Georgia town hall, denies that he’s been shifting stances on Iraq, guns, and the death penalty to attract more moderate voters.



“You’re not going to agree with me on 100 percent of what I think, but don’t assume that if I don’t agree with you on something that it must be because I’m doing that politically.”



(Time.com The Page)

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 22:58:41
Iraqi National Security Adviser: No, Actually We Are Talking About A Date For Withdrawal



(snip)



White House spokesman Scott Stanzel tried to downplay the significance of Maliki’s comments. While acknowledging that any agreement would have “some understanding of time-frames,” Stanzel insisted that “these are not talks on a hard date for a withdrawal.”



Today, speaking with reporters in the Iraqi seminary city of Najaf after a meeting with Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani, Iraqi National Security Adviser Mowaffak al-Rubaie essentially responded that, yes, these are talks on a hard date for withdrawal:







Obama proves to be right again!

Comment by capt on 07/08/2008 23:12:57
McCrap-shoot?

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2008 00:11:51
You know who has really cute, adorable kids? Barack and Michelle Obama. That is a good looking family!

Comment by Random on 07/09/2008 00:23:00


Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 00:31:18
hey all! -- in case the word doesn't circulate - Steph is booked for Larry King Live tonight - (CNN 9 pm EST, of course) - second half hour...



For those otherwise occupied - I'll hopefully have it up on the YouTubes later!



Be well all!

Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 00:40:01
All hail Random and Shane-O!





Comment by Random on 07/09/2008 00:42:47
I like that lil old lady.

Comment by Random on 07/09/2008 00:54:40
Quote by capt:

All hail Random and Shane-O!







good Capt. *tosses cookie*

Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/09/2008 01:09:05
Quote by Shane-O:

hey all! -- in case the word doesn't circulate - Steph is booked for Larry King Live tonight - (CNN 9 pm EST, of course) - second half hour...



For those otherwise occupied - I'll hopefully have it up on the YouTubes later!



Be well all!




Is this a last minute booking Shane-O, because sometimes we actually get advance notice via email.



It'll be just my luck, the TiVos running now and she'll probably get pre-empted for this divorce crap Larry's talking about.



Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 01:09:45
Quote by Random:

I like that lil old lady.




You think she is related to the "Where's the beef" lady?







Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 01:10:23
Quote by Random:

Quote by capt:

All hail Random and Shane-O!







good Capt. *tosses cookie*




Love me some cookies!



Comment by MMB on 07/09/2008 01:11:27
Looks can be very deceptive it's whats going on under the pretty pix that tell the real truth.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2008 01:14:16
Well that thing on PBS on spontaneous human combustion sucked the big green weenie. Sucks rhino. Sucks donkey prong. I put on Family Guy.

Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 01:19:47
Regarding an earlier conversation below...





Saponins are highly toxic to cold-blooded animals, due to their ability to lower surface tension. Saponin as the sapogenin aglycone have also been identified in the animal kingdom in snake venom, starfish, and sea cucumber. Some saponins (including those produced by the soapberry) are poisonous if swallowed and can cause urticaria (skin rash) in many people. Any markedly toxic saponin is known as a sapotoxin. Digitalis-saponins have been used in high doses as arrow and spear poisons by African and South American natives. Like all detergents, saponins are highly toxic if injected, because they cause hemolysis of blood cells. If eaten or swallowed, hydrolysis of the glycoside into its sugar moiety and aglycone or sapogenin reduces a saponin's toxicity. Ingested, the sapogenin is less toxic and not hemolytic. Native Americans eat Indian ice-cream made with Canada Buffaloberry, which contains saponins. Dog feeds often contain soybeans and beet pulp, which contain saponins that may be toxic to dogs.






Saponins have been identified in:



...Onion (red variety)




Please do not ask why I would know this.







Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 01:22:28
Quote by TriSec:

Regarding an earlier conversation below...





Saponins are highly toxic to cold-blooded animals, due to their ability to lower surface tension. Saponin as the sapogenin aglycone have also been identified in the animal kingdom in snake venom, starfish, and sea cucumber. Some saponins (including those produced by the soapberry) are poisonous if swallowed and can cause urticaria (skin rash) in many people. Any markedly toxic saponin is known as a sapotoxin. Digitalis-saponins have been used in high doses as arrow and spear poisons by African and South American natives. Like all detergents, saponins are highly toxic if injected, because they cause hemolysis of blood cells. If eaten or swallowed, hydrolysis of the glycoside into its sugar moiety and aglycone or sapogenin reduces a saponin's toxicity. Ingested, the sapogenin is less toxic and not hemolytic. Native Americans eat Indian ice-cream made with Canada Buffaloberry, which contains saponins. Dog feeds often contain soybeans and beet pulp, which contain saponins that may be toxic to dogs.






Saponins have been identified in:



...Onion (red variety)




Please do not ask why I would know this.





Well, I wasn't really curious until you asked me not to ask . . . .







Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/09/2008 01:23:22
Larry, I don't give a crap about this - give me Stephanie!



As far as I'm concerned the only Peter Cook died years ago.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2008 01:35:30
Quote by TriSec:

Regarding an earlier conversation below...





Saponins are highly toxic to cold-blooded animals, due to their ability to lower surface tension. Saponin as the sapogenin aglycone have also been identified in the animal kingdom in snake venom, starfish, and sea cucumber. Some saponins (including those produced by the soapberry) are poisonous if swallowed and can cause urticaria (skin rash) in many people. Any markedly toxic saponin is known as a sapotoxin. Digitalis-saponins have been used in high doses as arrow and spear poisons by African and South American natives. Like all detergents, saponins are highly toxic if injected, because they cause hemolysis of blood cells. If eaten or swallowed, hydrolysis of the glycoside into its sugar moiety and aglycone or sapogenin reduces a saponin's toxicity. Ingested, the sapogenin is less toxic and not hemolytic. Native Americans eat Indian ice-cream made with Canada Buffaloberry, which contains saponins. Dog feeds often contain soybeans and beet pulp, which contain saponins that may be toxic to dogs.






Saponins have been identified in:



...Onion (red variety)




Please do not ask why I would know this.











fascinating?

Comment by Random on 07/09/2008 01:45:04
Quote by capt:

Quote by Random:

I like that lil old lady.




You think she is related to the "Where's the beef" lady?







no idea what the hell that is.

But that lil ol' lady with the "McCain = Bush" sign is now my new hero.

Comment by TriSec on 07/09/2008 01:54:57
Quote by Mondobubba:



fascinating?






Eeeep! awful close to the truth there, but I won't reveal my terminal dorkiness just yet..



Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 01:55:15
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by Shane-O:

hey all! -- in case the word doesn't circulate - Steph is booked for Larry King Live tonight - (CNN 9 pm EST, of course) - second half hour...



For those otherwise occupied - I'll hopefully have it up on the YouTubes later!



Be well all!




Is this a last minute booking Shane-O, because sometimes we actually get advance notice via email.



It'll be just my luck, the TiVos running now and she'll probably get pre-empted for this divorce crap Larry's talking about.

Looking like she was bumped - sorry about that. Brinkley and Suze - bleck!



Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/09/2008 02:13:28
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Larry, I don't give a crap about this - give me Stephanie!



As far as I'm concerned the only Peter Cook died years ago.




Too many of the funny ones are gone.



There's somethin' happenin' here. The weather, she's a crazy. It's like we've been plunked down in Indiana or something. Weird.

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 02:17:35
Quote by capt:

John McCain Exhibiting Symptoms of Early Alzheimer's? (Video intensive)



*****



AAAARRRRGGGGHHH how is this guy even running? It is just plain crazy-talk.
OK, I finally had a chance to check this link out... and the links are no longer available.



WTF?



Comment by Random on 07/09/2008 02:20:46
Strange listening to Colin Baker and Peter Davison...kinda creepy.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2008 02:21:14
Watching Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Prices. Blood.boiling.Gore.Rising.

Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/09/2008 02:22:54
Someone on the Sirius machine is talking about a Vagina Day Spa. She's calling it the Finger Banging Spa. Oh, dear.



What the heck kind of services do they offer? I wonder if they have a mobile unit?!

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 02:28:59
It's POURING here!!!! :party:



as a side noote, does Sammy have the *cam* on? (he is filling in for Mike tonite)

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2008 02:33:52
Done with the new resume. Not as hard as I thought it was going to be.

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 02:34:18
Quote by Mondobubba:

Watching Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Prices. Blood.boiling.Gore.Rising.


I love you like a brother... but damn,... I hope this gets you off the Walmart once and for all. That company is BAD.



REALLY bad.

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2008 02:35:33
Why does the Walton family have a terror attack bunker? Why would terrorist attack Bentonville?

Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 02:36:38


For causing me (and others) to watch Christie Brinkley's attorneys and Suze Ormand this evening... Larry King (more specifically your producers):





(If you start the second audicon just as the first organ hits the third interval after the pedal - it SO WORKS! - wahoo!)

Comment by Random on 07/09/2008 02:38:34
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Watching Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Prices. Blood.boiling.Gore.Rising.


I love you like a brother... but damn,... I hope this gets you off the Walmart once and for all. That company is BAD.



REALLY bad.




I have refused to go to Wal-Mart to since their website lied to me.

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 02:40:16
Quote by IzzyBitz:

Someone on the Sirius machine is talking about a Vagina Day Spa. She's calling it the Finger Banging Spa. Oh, dear.



What the heck kind of services do they offer? I wonder if they have a mobile unit?!


oooOOOooo momma talked about this yesterday.





Here is the HuffPo link.



I love my Vagina, but I don't think it needs ALL that. (altho, I like the mobile unit idea.... )

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2008 02:41:01
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Watching Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Prices. Blood.boiling.Gore.Rising.


I love you like a brother... but damn,... I hope this gets you off the Walmart once and for all. That company is BAD.



REALLY bad.






If I wasn't poor I wouldn't shop there. I did got for almost a year and half without shopping there. If I may quote the only good line from "Godfather 3": I pull myself and they pull me back in!"

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 02:52:56
Quote by Shane-O:



For causing me (and others) to watch Christie Brinkley's attorneys and Suze Ormand this evening... Larry King (more specifically your producers):





(If you start the second audicon just as the first organ hits the third interval after the pedal - it SO WORKS! - wahoo!)
I LOVE it!



you shane-O ARE NOT the

But I am gonna have to try this ....



Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2008 02:54:37
Cobb Co. GA. Said no to Wal-Mart? Huh? Good for them!

Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 02:55:13
Shane! it works!

Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 03:07:22
Quote by Raine:

Shane! it works!
I've done it about 20 times myself. It would be SO EASY to mix - but the interactive part of it just makes me giggle like a fool :rofl:



Comment by Raine on 07/09/2008 03:12:25
I am sleepy.



I am gonna call momma in the AM. I have a question that needs to be asked.

Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 03:22:51
Quote by Raine:

I am sleepy.



I am gonna call momma in the AM. I have a question that needs to be asked.
Ooo! Can't wait to hear ya tomorrow Raine! (I'm so curious - but I'll wait...)



Comment by IzzyBitz on 07/09/2008 03:23:24
Quote by Raine:

Quote by IzzyBitz:

Someone on the Sirius machine is talking about a Vagina Day Spa. She's calling it the Finger Banging Spa. Oh, dear.



What the heck kind of services do they offer? I wonder if they have a mobile unit?!


oooOOOooo momma talked about this yesterday.





Here is the HuffPo link.



I love my Vagina, but I don't think it needs ALL that. (altho, I like the mobile unit idea.... )




I'd pay extra just to see the logo on the van!



A few cities in the LA area have shunned the Wal Mart. I went to the Wal Mart in the Palm Springs area a few years back to have a looksie. They had pints of Ben and Jerry's for $2.50! I will admit I bought one because Izzy has a major ice cream Jones!



If they could get gas for cheap like they do everything else, they would be SO popular!

Comment by Mondobubba on 07/09/2008 03:31:49
Quote by Shane-O:



For causing me (and others) to watch Christie Brinkley's attorneys and Suze Ormand this evening... Larry King (more specifically your producers):





(If you start the second audicon just as the first organ hits the third interval after the pedal - it SO WORKS! - wahoo!)




GENIUS!

Comment by clintster on 07/09/2008 03:56:01
Quote by Shane-O:



For causing me (and others) to watch Christie Brinkley's attorneys and Suze Ormand this evening... Larry King (more specifically your producers):





(If you start the second audicon just as the first organ hits the third interval after the pedal - it SO WORKS! - wahoo!)




I just tried it. It's alive! IT'S ALIIIIIIIVEEEEEEE!!!!

Comment by capt on 07/09/2008 04:00:12
Quote by Raine:

Quote by capt:

John McCain Exhibiting Symptoms of Early Alzheimer's? (Video intensive)



*****



AAAARRRRGGGGHHH how is this guy even running? It is just plain crazy-talk.
OK, I finally had a chance to check this link out... and the links are no longer available.



WTF?





Maybe try again - everything is working for me? I just fired up all the videos and all seem to be working?





Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 07:02:41
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Shane-O:



For causing me (and others) to watch Christie Brinkley's attorneys and Suze Ormand this evening... Larry King (more specifically your producers):





(If you start the second audicon just as the first organ hits the third interval after the pedal - it SO WORKS! - wahoo!)




GENIUS!
Nothing like a resolved Picardy Third to put a smile on a music geek's (my) face....



Comment by Shane-O on 07/09/2008 07:06:02
Quote by clintster:

Quote by Shane-O:



For causing me (and others) to watch Christie Brinkley's attorneys and Suze Ormand this evening... Larry King (more specifically your producers):





(If you start the second audicon just as the first organ hits the third interval after the pedal - it SO WORKS! - wahoo!)




I just tried it. It's alive! IT'S ALIIIIIIIVEEEEEEE!!!!




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