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Very Superstitious...
Author: BobR
Date: 08/01/2008 12:13:25
Very superstitious, ladders bout to fall,
Thirteen month old baby, broke the lookin glass
Seven years of bad luck, the good things in your past.
When you believe in things that you dont understand,
Then you suffer,
Superstition aint the way
- "Superstition" by Stevie Wonder
Today is going to be a special day in certain parts of the world. The people in Greenland, Siberia, China, and a few other places will be able to witness a total eclipse of the sun. The path can be seen here. This rare event used to cause all sorts of superstitious reactions:
Before there was a scientific explanation for eclipses, myth and mystery was pervasive. Many cultures thought a demon or dragon was devouring the sun.
In ancient China, "any unusual phenomenon involving celestial bodies was noted for potential omens, either good or bad, that might befall the current Emperor," according to Sten Odenwald of the department of physics at Catholic University. An eclipse occurred in 2134 B.C., but was not predicted by Hsi and Ho, who were believed to have been two astrologers who served the Emperor Chung K'ang.
"By some accounts, the two astrologers were negligent in their duties and did not foretell the event for the Emperor," Odenwald writes in a historical article published by NASA. "They were summarily beheaded for their negligence of duty."
The ancient Chinese banged pots and drums to shoo the frightful sun-eating character away, according to the Exploratorium Science Center in San Francisco. In India, people would immerse themselves in water to help the sun fight the dragon.
Even nowadays many myths persist. In Egypt, as one example, children are often kept indoors with windows covered or shades drawn during an eclipse.
Through the centuries, the lack of scientific knowledge has been at the root of superstition. The dictionary defines it as:
- a belief or notion, not based on reason or knowledge, in or of the ominous significance of a particular thing, circumstance, occurrence, proceeding, or the like.
- a system or collection of such beliefs.
- a custom or act based on such a belief.
- irrational fear of what is unknown or mysterious, esp. in connection with religion.
- any blindly accepted belief or notion.
Most ancient religions and customs were based on trying to explain the strange phenomena around them. Many (like Creationism) still persist to this day. What's amazing, however, is when new superstitions are created, or when logical reasoning and evidence is thrown out the window in favor of a belief in something that just doesn't make sense. For instance, here are some of the things you have to believe to be a Republican:
- Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
- Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
- A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all humankind without regulation.
- Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.
- The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
- If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
- Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism. HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public at heart.
- Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.
- A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which a thousand die and thousands are maimed for life is solid defense policy.
- The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's cocaine conviction is none of our business. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness, and you need our prayers for your recovery.
- You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have the right to adopt.
- What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the '70s & '80s is irrelevant.
Of course - some of those are a little "dated"; a few other more up-to-date (or timeless) items would include:
- Cutting taxes on the rich will help my financial situation.
- Oil can only be found in environmentally sensitive areas.
- Republican politicians will still tell the truth when they testify if they're not under oath.
- If we give the Bush Administration more powers, they won't abuse them.
- Starting a war in a wildly unstable oil-rich part of the world will make us safer and isn't to blame for higher gas prices.
- Bizarre new weather patterns and melting polar ice are not because of global warming, and even if they are, it's not our fault, and there's nothing we can do about it.
There certainly are more examples. How many can you come up with?
Comments:
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Comment by 
BobR on 08/01/2008 12:17:25
BobR on 08/01/2008 12:17:25
OOOh - here's another one:
Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.
Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.
Comment by 
TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:22:30
TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:22:30
It's OK to poison dogs and babies with Chinese products, because forcing the companies to make a safe product might affect their profit margin.
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:23:31
TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:23:31
A uniformed pilot with company ID can't carry airline-issued silverware through security, but it's OK for unscreened baggage handlers to work on the tarmac next to the airplane.
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:24:46
TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:24:46
It's OK to build a security fence along the US/Mexican border, except through golf courses and conservative college campuses.
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:27:40
TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:27:40
Public nudity is promiscuous and immoral, but nudity through the airport X-ray machine helps make us safer.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 12:29:02
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 12:29:02
Morning :hug:
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 12:34:35
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 12:34:35
Damn - Rabbit, Rabbit, Rabbit!
Comment by 
Random on 08/01/2008 12:34:53
Random on 08/01/2008 12:34:53
Random, with something interesting for once.
Random's father (back in '88) recorded about 5 minutes aday of the presidential campaign (starting with the primaries) And it struckt random how strange, is that it's exactly the same...freakishly so.
Random's father (back in '88) recorded about 5 minutes aday of the presidential campaign (starting with the primaries) And it struckt random how strange, is that it's exactly the same...freakishly so.
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:36:28
TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:36:28
Polluting our coastline and despoiling the environment for our grandchildren is perfectly alright, just as long as gasoline is 3 cents cheaper in ten years.
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:39:39
TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:39:39
A few thousand former Cubans in Miami know what's best for the rest of the United States concerning Fidel Castro.
Likewise, a few thousand practitioners of the Jewish faith also know what's best for the rest of the United States concerning Israel.
Likewise, a few thousand practitioners of the Jewish faith also know what's best for the rest of the United States concerning Israel.
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:40:55
TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:40:55
Texas is the only state in the Union capable of producing a decent leader; you shouldn't trust anyone from East of the Mississippi or North of the Mason-Dixon line.
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:41:42
TriSec on 08/01/2008 12:41:42
Politicians in Washington are completely out of touch with the United States, except for our candidates, of course.
Comment by 
Shane-O on 08/01/2008 13:02:22
Shane-O on 08/01/2008 13:02:22
To Clintster - I did your idea about the CSN&Y - "Teach Your Children" -- I just sent it - don't know if it will be run - but your Ian is featured promenently. Thanks for the idea :D
Comment by 
liam1965 on 08/01/2008 13:05:07
liam1965 on 08/01/2008 13:05:07
Good morning, my last-to-be-drafted buddies. How are you this morning?
Short morning participation, since I woke up quite late and need to get to working straightaway.
Liam, hoping the "last to be drafted" wasn't too obscure...
Short morning participation, since I woke up quite late and need to get to working straightaway.
Liam, hoping the "last to be drafted" wasn't too obscure...
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 13:07:51
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 13:07:51
Morning all. Waiting for the tradespeople. :drumsfingers:
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:10:44
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:10:44
Heyya Shane-O, Liam, Mondo
Comment by Shane-O on 08/01/2008 13:15:15
Shane-O on 08/01/2008 13:15:15
mornin' wick!
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 13:16:47
TriSec on 08/01/2008 13:16:47
Oh, I saw the Paris Hilton ad this morning. Apparently they're targeting some Southern NH voters (which are all Massachusetts transplants, BTW. )
Anyway, I completely tuned it out, it had the de rigeur scary-sounding voiceover, then there was Sen. Obama's picture and McCain approving the message.
What the hell was that supposed to be about, again?
Anyway, I completely tuned it out, it had the de rigeur scary-sounding voiceover, then there was Sen. Obama's picture and McCain approving the message.
What the hell was that supposed to be about, again?
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:17:06
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:17:06
You know you can call me Mala, Shane-O :)
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:17:50
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:17:50
Pssst - dude - then they aren't really Dems.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:19:31
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:19:31
It's a cute song.
Comment by Shane-O on 08/01/2008 13:20:55
yay! -- thanks Mala... :D
Shane-O on 08/01/2008 13:20:55
Quote by wickedpam:
You know you can call me Mala, Shane-O :)
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 13:22:22
Damnit! I missed what the song that is tearing away at the moral fabric of America!
Well so much for the tradesperson, he just called, there is medical emergency he will be coming on Monday. :kick:
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 13:22:22
Quote by wickedpam:
It's a cute song.
Damnit! I missed what the song that is tearing away at the moral fabric of America!
Well so much for the tradesperson, he just called, there is medical emergency he will be coming on Monday. :kick:
Comment by 
Scoopster on 08/01/2008 13:23:24
Scoopster on 08/01/2008 13:23:24
Morning everyone!! :banana:
In Wal*merica, corporate products buy people!
In Wal*merica, corporate products buy people!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:23:24
Katy Perry's "I Kissed a Girl"
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:23:24
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
It's a cute song.
Damnit! I missed what the song that is tearing away at the moral fabric of America!
Well so much for the tradesperson, he just called, there is medical emergency he will be coming on Monday. :kick:
Katy Perry's "I Kissed a Girl"
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 13:25:54
OH MAH GAWD! A ten year old song is going to turn America gay!
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 13:25:54
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
It's a cute song.
Damnit! I missed what the song that is tearing away at the moral fabric of America!
Well so much for the tradesperson, he just called, there is medical emergency he will be coming on Monday. :kick:
Katy Perry's "I Kissed a Girl"
OH MAH GAWD! A ten year old song is going to turn America gay!
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 13:30:11
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 13:30:11
has anybody else tried "the new Facebook"
Comment by liam1965 on 08/01/2008 13:32:49
liam1965 on 08/01/2008 13:32:49
Mondo, it's not a 10 year old song. That's Jill Sobule's "I Kissed a Girl". Katy Perry's is brand new and a different song.
Comment by Shane-O on 08/01/2008 13:34:53
Shane-O on 08/01/2008 13:34:53
I'm pretty sure I posted a comment about this a while ago - the Rove tactic of attacking from a weak position. McCain (a la Schmitt) called out Obama as a "flip-flopper" early to cut back on the possible criticism of McCain as being a flip-flopper. The idea being, if you attack first, when you come back and say you are doing the same thing - it comes across as equivocation.
The McCain campaign is NOW doing the same thing on the "race card." Accusing Obama of playing it. Since the McCain people have attacked, again, from the weak position - if the Obama campaign comes back and says that the McCain campaign is playing the race card (which they've likely planned to do all along) - it's another tit-for-tat. Therefore, McCain can go on using that tactic with little repurcussions.
The McCain campaign is NOW doing the same thing on the "race card." Accusing Obama of playing it. Since the McCain people have attacked, again, from the weak position - if the Obama campaign comes back and says that the McCain campaign is playing the race card (which they've likely planned to do all along) - it's another tit-for-tat. Therefore, McCain can go on using that tactic with little repurcussions.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:35:09
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:35:09
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
It's a cute song.
Damnit! I missed what the song that is tearing away at the moral fabric of America!
Well so much for the tradesperson, he just called, there is medical emergency he will be coming on Monday. :kick:
Katy Perry's "I Kissed a Girl"
OH MAH GAWD! A ten year old song is going to turn America gay!
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 13:35:32
TriSec on 08/01/2008 13:35:32
Say, all these tracking polls showing McCain picking up ground are on the popular vote, right?
Is anyone tracking the electoral delegate vote (other than us)?
Is anyone tracking the electoral delegate vote (other than us)?
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 13:36:40
Whatever! It still promotes the dreaded homosexual agenda and junk. : The Beaver:
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 13:36:40
Quote by liam1965:
Mondo, it's not a 10 year old song. That's Jill Sobule's "I Kissed a Girl". Katy Perry's is brand new and a different song.
Whatever! It still promotes the dreaded homosexual agenda and junk. : The Beaver:
Comment by Scoopster on 08/01/2008 13:36:58
Actually I thought it was a really loose rehash..
Scoopster on 08/01/2008 13:36:58
Quote by liam1965:
Mondo, it's not a 10 year old song. That's Jill Sobule's "I Kissed a Girl". Katy Perry's is brand new and a different song.
Actually I thought it was a really loose rehash..
Comment by Shane-O on 08/01/2008 13:38:21
SM Bump - Steph-i-fied ... not used
Shane-O on 08/01/2008 13:38:21
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
It's a cute song.
Damnit! I missed what the song that is tearing away at the moral fabric of America!
Well so much for the tradesperson, he just called, there is medical emergency he will be coming on Monday. :kick:
Katy Perry's "I Kissed a Girl"
OH MAH GAWD! A ten year old song is going to turn America gay!
Comment by Scoopster on 08/01/2008 13:38:27
:rofl: I'm sorry Mondo.. having 'junk' and 'beaver' in the same sentence as homosexual agenda is for some reason just.. funny!
Scoopster on 08/01/2008 13:38:27
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by liam1965:
Mondo, it's not a 10 year old song. That's Jill Sobule's "I Kissed a Girl". Katy Perry's is brand new and a different song.
Whatever! It still promotes the dreaded homosexual agenda and junk. : The Beaver:
:rofl: I'm sorry Mondo.. having 'junk' and 'beaver' in the same sentence as homosexual agenda is for some reason just.. funny!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:39:56
Zogby
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:39:56
Quote by TriSec:
Say, all these tracking polls showing McCain picking up ground are on the popular vote, right?
Is anyone tracking the electoral delegate vote (other than us)?
Zogby
Comment by Scoopster on 08/01/2008 13:41:40
Here's an old favorite from 2004..
Scoopster on 08/01/2008 13:41:40
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:
Say, all these tracking polls showing McCain picking up ground are on the popular vote, right?
Is anyone tracking the electoral delegate vote (other than us)?
Zogby
Here's an old favorite from 2004..
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:41:44
How do we know if we have the "new" Facebook?
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:41:44
Quote by Mondobubba:
has anybody else tried "the new Facebook"
How do we know if we have the "new" Facebook?
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 13:44:50
'Cause there is banner across the top what says try it.
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 13:44:50
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
has anybody else tried "the new Facebook"
How do we know if we have the "new" Facebook?
'Cause there is banner across the top what says try it.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:45:48
I forgot about that one - they still have Butthead & Kerry up
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:45:48
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by TriSec:
Say, all these tracking polls showing McCain picking up ground are on the popular vote, right?
Is anyone tracking the electoral delegate vote (other than us)?
Zogby
Here's an old favorite from 2004..
I forgot about that one - they still have Butthead & Kerry up
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:46:54
I don't have that banner.
Does it make Facebook respond better?
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:46:54
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
has anybody else tried "the new Facebook"
How do we know if we have the "new" Facebook?
'Cause there is banner across the top what says try it.
I don't have that banner.
Does it make Facebook respond better?
Comment by BobR on 08/01/2008 13:50:54
BobR on 08/01/2008 13:50:54
It's "Let me hear your body talk", Momma... :rolleyes:
Comment by BobR on 08/01/2008 13:52:11
In retrospect, I supposed I shouldn't know that... :redface:
BobR on 08/01/2008 13:52:11
Quote by BobR:
It's "Let me hear your body talk", Momma... :rolleyes:
In retrospect, I supposed I shouldn't know that... :redface:
Comment by 
starling310 on 08/01/2008 13:52:29
starling310 on 08/01/2008 13:52:29
Good morning everyone.
Blast from the past last night. . . I watched The Secret of Nimh.
:unsure:
:cry: ------------>
Blast from the past last night. . . I watched The Secret of Nimh.
:unsure:
:cry: ------------>
Quote by TriSec:
It's OK to poison dogs and babies with Chinese products, because forcing the companies to make a safe product might affect their profit margin.
Comment by 
Raine on 08/01/2008 13:52:46
Raine on 08/01/2008 13:52:46
Good morning! 
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:54:34
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:54:34
Morning Bob, Star, Raine
Comment by 
livingonli on 08/01/2008 13:55:12
livingonli on 08/01/2008 13:55:12
Good morning all. 
Another day for me.
Random, your buddy Donnie is back on the SMS Live Blog if you want to go back and mock him relentlessly.
Another day for me.
Random, your buddy Donnie is back on the SMS Live Blog if you want to go back and mock him relentlessly.
Comment by BobR on 08/01/2008 13:55:36
There's a little link at the top that says "Try the new facebook". Click on that for the new one.
You're facebook might respond better if you don't have a ton of applications loaded up in it...
BobR on 08/01/2008 13:55:36
Quote by wickedpam:
I don't have that banner.
Does it make Facebook respond better?
There's a little link at the top that says "Try the new facebook". Click on that for the new one.
You're facebook might respond better if you don't have a ton of applications loaded up in it...
Comment by starling310 on 08/01/2008 13:55:45
:rofl:
I prefer to sing "I kissed a girl and SHE liked it!"
starling310 on 08/01/2008 13:55:45
Quote by Shane-O:SM Bump - Steph-i-fied ... not usedQuote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
It's a cute song.
Damnit! I missed what the song that is tearing away at the moral fabric of America!
Well so much for the tradesperson, he just called, there is medical emergency he will be coming on Monday. :kick:
Katy Perry's "I Kissed a Girl"
OH MAH GAWD! A ten year old song is going to turn America gay!
:rofl:
I prefer to sing "I kissed a girl and SHE liked it!"
Comment by Scoopster on 08/01/2008 13:56:31
Scoopster on 08/01/2008 13:56:31
:banana: I just got a raise! :banana:
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:57:46
My name is Mala and I'm a facebook applications addict. :p
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 13:57:46
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
I don't have that banner.
Does it make Facebook respond better?
There's a little link at the top that says "Try the new facebook". Click on that for the new one.
You're facebook might respond better if you don't have a ton of applications loaded up in it...
My name is Mala and I'm a facebook applications addict. :p
Comment by Shane-O on 08/01/2008 13:59:08
Yay Scoop!
Shane-O on 08/01/2008 13:59:08
Quote by Scoopster:
:banana: I just got a raise! :banana:
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 14:02:30
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 14:02:30
I see no reason to stay awake since I got to bed late-ish. I will see you all in a bit. :sleep:
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 14:02:48
WooHoo!
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 14:02:48
Quote by Scoopster:
:banana: I just got a raise! :banana:
WooHoo!
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 14:05:48
livingonli on 08/01/2008 14:05:48
OH, Mondo. But we miss your calls to Momma.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 14:09:32
Raine on 08/01/2008 14:09:32
:bad: let me hear your body Rock is a little dif than that phrase... :rofl:
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 14:09:33
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 14:09:33
I so remember rockin out that this with my little boom box and my cassettes.
I made myself feel old *pout*
I made myself feel old *pout*
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 14:12:27
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 14:12:27
That's was cute Shane-O!
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 14:12:50
Raine on 08/01/2008 14:12:50
That was Too damn cute! good one shane-O!!!
good one shane-O!!!
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 14:13:22
Homer Simpson: Elton John! I taped all your songs off the radio.
Elton: Why, thank you, Have a Grammy.
livingonli on 08/01/2008 14:13:22
Quote by wickedpam:
I so remember rockin out that this with my little boom box and my cassettes.
I made myself feel old *pout*
Homer Simpson: Elton John! I taped all your songs off the radio.
Elton: Why, thank you, Have a Grammy.
Comment by Shane-O on 08/01/2008 14:14:57
Shane-O on 08/01/2008 14:14:57
That was Clintster's idea - thank you Ian too!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 14:29:45
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 14:29:45
'Moore, O'Reilly' toilet stall brawl in Airplane! creator's spoof
Why is it when Repubs say they have un-PC comedy it turns out just to be nasty and unfunny.
Why is it when Repubs say they have un-PC comedy it turns out just to be nasty and unfunny.
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 14:30:04
livingonli on 08/01/2008 14:30:04
Wake up bloggie. 
Comment by Shane-O on 08/01/2008 14:34:53
Shane-O on 08/01/2008 14:34:53
For Stephie's kids - I think I'm allowed (all contraband... 
)
)
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 14:36:23
TriSec on 08/01/2008 14:36:23
Av-dorkery and WWII geekery combine:
65 years ago today...
According to my grandmother, a distant cousin of ours was shot down during the raid....don't know how factual that is.
65 years ago today...
According to my grandmother, a distant cousin of ours was shot down during the raid....don't know how factual that is.
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 14:42:26
I believe the children our are future.
livingonli on 08/01/2008 14:42:26
Quote by Shane-O:
For Stephie's kids - I think I'm allowed (all contraband...
I believe the children our are future.
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 14:42:27
capt on 08/01/2008 14:42:27
Too busy for blogging fun today until about noon or one. GREAT Shane-O piece (h/t Ian) - I heard it in the auto and was lovin it!
Scoopster a RAISE! WOO HOO! Congrats!
The rest of ya bloggers bastids - have a great day!
Scoopster a RAISE! WOO HOO! Congrats!
The rest of ya bloggers bastids - have a great day!
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 14:53:06
Raine on 08/01/2008 14:53:06
It's been a kinda scattery morning here... the gutter guys just came... they need to replace all the gutters on the apartment building.
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 14:54:33
livingonli on 08/01/2008 14:54:33
Have fun storming the castle capt.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 14:54:40
Raine on 08/01/2008 14:54:40
I thought Barack Obama was white. 
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:05:13
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:05:13
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 08/01/2008 15:11:43
Won't fly very far. Like many of these attempts at GOP humor, they fail to hit targets other than a few of our, (how to put this nicely) dumber-er Americans.
Sad, really.
Anywho, morning all. Slept late, now off to work. Werk. Ug.
velveeta jones on 08/01/2008 15:11:43
Quote by wickedpam:
'Moore, O'Reilly' toilet stall brawl in Airplane! creator's spoof
Why is it when Repubs say they have un-PC comedy it turns out just to be nasty and unfunny.
Won't fly very far. Like many of these attempts at GOP humor, they fail to hit targets other than a few of our, (how to put this nicely) dumber-er Americans.
Sad, really.
Anywho, morning all. Slept late, now off to work. Werk. Ug.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 15:12:13
Raine on 08/01/2008 15:12:13
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 15:15:53
That is very cute! Simple elegant and to the point!
Raine on 08/01/2008 15:15:53
Quote by wickedpam:
New Shirt at wickedbit (yes I'm self promoting)
Plus I value ya'll opinion. What do ya think?
That is very cute! Simple elegant and to the point!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:18:01
Thank you.
Did the text look okay? Don't want it to be blurry
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:18:01
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
New Shirt at wickedbit (yes I'm self promoting)
Plus I value ya'll opinion. What do ya think?
That is very cute! Simple elegant and to the point!
Thank you.
Did the text look okay? Don't want it to be blurry
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 15:18:33
We can't elect Obama....he's an air-breathing mammal fer shite's sake!!
TriSec on 08/01/2008 15:18:33
Quote by Raine:
The newest reason Obama can't be president....
He's too Skinny.
:rolleyes2:
We can't elect Obama....he's an air-breathing mammal fer shite's sake!!
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 15:22:21
Only Curmudgeonly old farts are entitled to be President.
livingonli on 08/01/2008 15:22:21
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
The newest reason Obama can't be president....
He's too Skinny.
:rolleyes2:
We can't elect Obama....he's an air-breathing mammal fer shite's sake!!
Only Curmudgeonly old farts are entitled to be President.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 15:29:17
No, it was fine, not blurry at all.
Raine on 08/01/2008 15:29:17
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
New Shirt at wickedbit (yes I'm self promoting)
Plus I value ya'll opinion. What do ya think?
That is very cute! Simple elegant and to the point!
Thank you.
Did the text look okay? Don't want it to be blurry
Comment by Shane-O on 08/01/2008 15:29:38
Shane-O on 08/01/2008 15:29:38
Yeah! Frangela!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:33:53
Cool.
One of these days I'm gonna hit on something that'll take off - :p
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:33:53
Quote by Raine:No, it was fine, not blurry at all.Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
New Shirt at wickedbit (yes I'm self promoting)
Plus I value ya'll opinion. What do ya think?
That is very cute! Simple elegant and to the point!
Thank you.
Did the text look okay? Don't want it to be blurry
Cool.
One of these days I'm gonna hit on something that'll take off - :p
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:35:11
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:35:11
"Black Ajacent" :spit:
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/01/2008 15:36:06
Oh Jesus, Mary and Joseph! :thud:
"You should not vote for Obama because ______________ (fill in blank)"
:rolleyes:
velveeta jones on 08/01/2008 15:36:06
Quote by Raine:
The newest reason Obama can't be president....
He's too Skinny.
:rolleyes2:
Oh Jesus, Mary and Joseph! :thud:
"You should not vote for Obama because ______________ (fill in blank)"
:rolleyes:
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:49:08
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:49:08
nothing pisses me off more then the whole "you guys" tactic in arguing
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:49:25
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:49:25
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:52:15
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:52:15
Hello? helllo.....hellooo....helllllooooo
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 15:58:02
Raine on 08/01/2008 15:58:02
Sorry Mala... I am still a little pooped this morning... trying to figure out a few things about the dead Anthrax suspect...
:foil:
And trying to see if the Black protestors at the Obama Rally today were paid Republican plants...
:foil:
:foil:
:foil:
And trying to see if the Black protestors at the Obama Rally today were paid Republican plants...
:foil:
:foil:
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:59:16
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 15:59:16
No worries. I'm better now. :D
Comment by 
clintster on 08/01/2008 16:04:48
clintster on 08/01/2008 16:04:48
Shane-O, thankees for making the clip. I was in a faculty meeting this AM, so I haven't heard it yet, but I'll keep an ear out for it on your Bits page.
I was in a faculty meeting this AM, so I haven't heard it yet, but I'll keep an ear out for it on your Bits page.
Comment by Shane-O on 08/01/2008 16:07:50
That'll be at least a week out - so, I'll send the .mp3 to the 4F staff email address - I'd bet that some NICE person over there might forward it to you in the meantime...
Thanks so much for the great idea, Clint!
Shane-O on 08/01/2008 16:07:50
Quote by clintster:
Shane-O, thankees for making the clip.
Thanks so much for the great idea, Clint!
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 16:12:58
So what did Kizzie think of the tradespeople making all kinds of noise and the flaven?
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 16:12:58
Quote by Raine:
It's been a kinda scattery morning here... the gutter guys just came... they need to replace all the gutters on the apartment building.
So what did Kizzie think of the tradespeople making all kinds of noise and the flaven?
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 16:15:52
Raine on 08/01/2008 16:15:52
Kizzie slept thru it... they just came to do an assessment.
Comment by Scoopster on 08/01/2008 16:22:13
Scoopster on 08/01/2008 16:22:13
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 16:24:01
Raine on 08/01/2008 16:24:01
Grandpa Hilton is *unhappy* about Paris Ad...
oospie Daisy!
According to reports, the McCain campaign office received a furious phone call from William Barron Hilton (co-chairman of the Hilton Hotel empire), who took issue with the comparison between Senator Obama and his granddaughter.
Donor records show William Hilton has given $US18,400 ($19,420) to the McCain campaign and $US35,000 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee in the past two years. Paris Hilton's father, Rick Hilton, has given $US6,900 to the McCain campaign.
oospie Daisy!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 16:26:07
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 16:26:07
I would love for there to be a better rail system - traveling by train is so wonderful.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 16:39:36
Raine on 08/01/2008 16:39:36
Oh Mah gawd. Scattered Smothered and covered... Romance -- Georgia Style.
(please check out the slide show! )
(please check out the slide show! )
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 16:49:05
Did you read the comment from the right-winger accusing the AP of Liberal bias for seeming to mock the ceremony. I guess he's like Jesse Helms in his being proud that he's an ignorant backwards southerner. (No offense to the southerners on this blog).
livingonli on 08/01/2008 16:49:05
Quote by Raine:
Oh Mah gawd. Scattered Smothered and covered... Romance -- Georgia Style.
(please check out the slide show! )
Did you read the comment from the right-winger accusing the AP of Liberal bias for seeming to mock the ceremony. I guess he's like Jesse Helms in his being proud that he's an ignorant backwards southerner. (No offense to the southerners on this blog).
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 16:53:18
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 16:53:18
Quote by Raine:
Oh Mah gawd. Scattered Smothered and covered... Romance -- Georgia Style.
(please check out the slide show! )
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 17:19:43
Oh sweet Cheesus! :thud:
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 17:19:43
Quote by Raine:
Oh Mah gawd. Scattered Smothered and covered... Romance -- Georgia Style.
(please check out the slide show! )
Oh sweet Cheesus! :thud:
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 17:32:19
I dunno the last time I took a train, it was interesting, but oy, the schedule delays! Ugh!
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 17:32:19
Quote by wickedpam:
I would love for there to be a better rail system - traveling by train is so wonderful.
I dunno the last time I took a train, it was interesting, but oy, the schedule delays! Ugh!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 17:40:23
Last time I travelled long distance by train it was the 70's. I loved traveling that way. Granted at Thanksgiving it was incedibly(sp) crowded but it was so much better then riding in the car.
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 17:40:23
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by wickedpam:
I would love for there to be a better rail system - traveling by train is so wonderful.
I dunno the last time I took a train, it was interesting, but oy, the schedule delays! Ugh!
Last time I travelled long distance by train it was the 70's. I loved traveling that way. Granted at Thanksgiving it was incedibly(sp) crowded but it was so much better then riding in the car.
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 18:12:35
livingonli on 08/01/2008 18:12:35
All hail Random. 
Your buddy Donnie was on the Live Blog today.
Your buddy Donnie was on the Live Blog today.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 18:13:15
Today I learned -
USA Today readers are schitzo
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 18:13:15
Quote by Random:
Graph wizard has fun graph...
Bush Approval Ratings
Today I learned -
USA Today readers are schitzo
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 18:22:39
Raine on 08/01/2008 18:22:39
This is amazing. Obama Today in St. Pete... Watch how he handles the protesters!
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 18:26:34
livingonli on 08/01/2008 18:26:34
Time to go head off to the salt mine after a couple of stops.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 18:38:53
Raine on 08/01/2008 18:38:53
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 18:42:00
Love how he handled that.
One thing - is it awful that I think this hypthened American stuff needs to stop. The gentleman kept saying the "African" community, dude unless you were born overseas you're an American.
I really hate that, I don't walk around saying I'm a German-American, no I'm an American who has German ancestry.
Sorry it's one of those things that just drives me crazy cuz I feel that it divdes people. And that's really the last thing we need.
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 18:42:00
Quote by Raine:
This is amazing. Obama Today in St. Pete... Watch how he handles the protesters!
Love how he handled that.
One thing - is it awful that I think this hypthened American stuff needs to stop. The gentleman kept saying the "African" community, dude unless you were born overseas you're an American.
I really hate that, I don't walk around saying I'm a German-American, no I'm an American who has German ancestry.
Sorry it's one of those things that just drives me crazy cuz I feel that it divdes people. And that's really the last thing we need.
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 18:44:08
TriSec on 08/01/2008 18:44:08
Ah, I was more impressed by the crowd ganging up on the protestors.
But yes, he did handle it adeptly. And the gentleman's question to the Senator sounded a bit...disjointed. However, seems like he answered everything...
But yes, he did handle it adeptly. And the gentleman's question to the Senator sounded a bit...disjointed. However, seems like he answered everything...
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 19:07:40
It's Friday YA Bastahds!
:penis:
:boobs2: 
Bounce What you have, or sit back enjoy!
Raine on 08/01/2008 19:07:40
:penis: :boobs2:
Bounce What you have, or sit back enjoy!
Comment by BobR on 08/01/2008 19:11:30
IT'S FRIDAY, YA BASTAHDS!
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:bounce:
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:bouncer:
:heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
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BOUNCE!!
BobR on 08/01/2008 19:11:30
IT'S FRIDAY, YA BASTAHDS!
:boobs2:
:boobs2::bounce:
:boobs:
:bouncer:
:heart:
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Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 19:15:53
Raine on 08/01/2008 19:15:53
new McCAin ad:
Now, McCain thinks he is being smart in this video, personally I think it is insulting to almost every spiritual person... What the HELL are these people thinking at that campaign?
Not only does it take things SO far out of context, it just mean and stupid and desprate.
Now, McCain thinks he is being smart in this video, personally I think it is insulting to almost every spiritual person... What the HELL are these people thinking at that campaign?
Not only does it take things SO far out of context, it just mean and stupid and desprate.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 19:19:17
Raine on 08/01/2008 19:19:17
Oh, and don't be afraid to vote down that video at the youtubes.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 19:23:13
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 19:23:13
Wow - I am so far beyond offended by that.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 19:29:01
Raine on 08/01/2008 19:29:01
Yeah, I found this one to be more offensive than his others, which are just stupid... this one attacks people of faith if you ask me. Total conflation.
Really very stupid move I suspect.
Really very stupid move I suspect.
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 19:29:19
TriSec on 08/01/2008 19:29:19
Ya know, that really seemed to be more pro-Obama than anything else...
I just have to shake my head. Who's McCain's campaign manager, an eighth-grader?
I just have to shake my head. Who's McCain's campaign manager, an eighth-grader?
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 19:34:45
TriSec on 08/01/2008 19:34:45
Something for our crrack research staff....
"Is he ready to lead?"
Surely, there must be some beloved republican icon that had a similar level of time in public office to our Senator Obama. I don't have the time at the moment to go hunting, but a 'compare and contrast' memo might be interesting.
I know I've been using the "Obama has the same amount of legislative experience as Senator Kennedy when he became the nominee in 1960" on my Hilary-leaning relatives...
There must be a successful Republican with a similar resume...
"Is he ready to lead?"
Surely, there must be some beloved republican icon that had a similar level of time in public office to our Senator Obama. I don't have the time at the moment to go hunting, but a 'compare and contrast' memo might be interesting.
I know I've been using the "Obama has the same amount of legislative experience as Senator Kennedy when he became the nominee in 1960" on my Hilary-leaning relatives...
There must be a successful Republican with a similar resume...
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 19:38:43
Raine on 08/01/2008 19:38:43
Randi is explaining this dead anthrax guy story pretty well. I sensed there was more to this story. I was confusing him with Steven HAtfield, and that was the original suspect.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 19:39:14
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 19:39:14
There has to be someone
Comment by Random on 08/01/2008 19:40:26
REally...And i missed him...I didn't get to try out my bit on him....NO!
Was he trollie?
Random on 08/01/2008 19:40:26
Quote by livingonli:
All hail Random.
Your buddy Donnie was on the Live Blog today.
REally...And i missed him...I didn't get to try out my bit on him....NO!
Was he trollie?
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 19:41:54
I guess you can't count Dubya... he has never written a single peivce of legisl;ation, and well... YEah, TRi said successful.
Raine on 08/01/2008 19:41:54
Quote by TriSec:
Something for our crrack research staff....
"Is he ready to lead?"
Surely, there must be some beloved republican icon that had a similar level of time in public office to our Senator Obama. I don't have the time at the moment to go hunting, but a 'compare and contrast' memo might be interesting.
I know I've been using the "Obama has the same amount of legislative experience as Senator Kennedy when he became the nominee in 1960" on my Hilary-leaning relatives...
There must be a successful Republican with a similar resume...
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 19:43:20
Raine on 08/01/2008 19:43:20
So this anthrax guy was never revealed to the public that he was an actual Suspect in the Anthrax case.
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 19:47:40
TriSec on 08/01/2008 19:47:40
Barack ad:
"John McCain....is that guy ever lucid?"
"John McCain....is that guy ever lucid?"
Comment by Random on 08/01/2008 19:47:57
Where's Neo...I thought he was the one.
The point of that ad is Obama is the best...so don't elect him.
Random on 08/01/2008 19:47:57
Quote by Raine:
new McCAin ad:
Now, McCain thinks he is being smart in this video, personally I think it is insulting to almost every spiritual person... What the HELL are these people thinking at that campaign?
Not only does it take things SO far out of context, it just mean and stupid and desprate.
Where's Neo...I thought he was the one.
The point of that ad is Obama is the best...so don't elect him.
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 19:47:57
capt on 08/01/2008 19:47:57
All hail Random™
:bow: ™
:bow: ™
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 19:49:33
capt on 08/01/2008 19:49:33
I know the answer! The answer lies within the heart of all mankind! The answer is twelve? I think I'm in the wrong building.
~ Charles M. Schulz
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 19:50:55
TriSec on 08/01/2008 19:50:55
Eisenhower's first elected office was President...
But then again he was Supreme Allied Commander, so that probably counts for something.
How long was Reagan governor before getting in?
I don't want to go too far back in history, since it's not the GOP's strong suit. But then again, I believe Lincoln's first elected office was also President...and he was the first Republican on top of that.
But then again he was Supreme Allied Commander, so that probably counts for something.
How long was Reagan governor before getting in?
I don't want to go too far back in history, since it's not the GOP's strong suit. But then again, I believe Lincoln's first elected office was also President...and he was the first Republican on top of that.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 19:51:40
Raine on 08/01/2008 19:51:40
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 19:51:58
capt on 08/01/2008 19:51:58
Did someone forget to tell gramps that when you're in a hole you should stop diggin?
He has decided the Indy's are all for Barack so he is "read meating" the GOP base?
It is getting pathetic, eh?
He has decided the Indy's are all for Barack so he is "read meating" the GOP base?
It is getting pathetic, eh?
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 19:53:07
Lincoln was a congress critter for a term - FWIW
capt on 08/01/2008 19:53:07
Quote by TriSec:
Eisenhower's first elected office was President...
But then again he was Supreme Allied Commander, so that probably counts for something.
How long was Reagan governor before getting in?
I don't want to go too far back in history, since it's not the GOP's strong suit. But then again, I believe Lincoln's first elected office was also President...and he was the first Republican on top of that.
Lincoln was a congress critter for a term - FWIW
Comment by clintster on 08/01/2008 19:55:12
Well, there's this guy. All he did was serve a term in the US House, some tme in the Ill. General Assembly and lose a Senate race just two years before he was elected to office. I mean, how could a guy like that manage to mend a wrecked nation, torn by political and social strife, bitterness and even violence based on ideology? And he even lost the South when he was elected!
clintster on 08/01/2008 19:55:12
Quote by TriSec:
Something for our crrack research staff....
"Is he ready to lead?"
Surely, there must be some beloved republican icon that had a similar level of time in public office to our Senator Obama. I don't have the time at the moment to go hunting, but a 'compare and contrast' memo might be interesting.
I know I've been using the "Obama has the same amount of legislative experience as Senator Kennedy when he became the nominee in 1960" on my Hilary-leaning relatives...
There must be a successful Republican with a similar resume...
Well, there's this guy. All he did was serve a term in the US House, some tme in the Ill. General Assembly and lose a Senate race just two years before he was elected to office. I mean, how could a guy like that manage to mend a wrecked nation, torn by political and social strife, bitterness and even violence based on ideology? And he even lost the South when he was elected!
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 19:55:16
Raine on 08/01/2008 19:55:16
ahhh... yes, the DC madam.... Suicided.
Comment by clintster on 08/01/2008 19:56:04
clintster on 08/01/2008 19:56:04
Dangit, capt!
Comment by Random on 08/01/2008 19:56:48
yes?
Random on 08/01/2008 19:56:48
Quote by capt:
All hail Random™
:bow: ™
yes?
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 19:56:55
Raine on 08/01/2008 19:56:55
The reality is that No one is, in my opnion EVERY truly ready to be President. NO ONE. Some like John McCain, are LESS ready.
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 20:00:34
TriSec on 08/01/2008 20:00:34
Hmm, skimming around, "Mr. Republican" also first held an elected office that was Oval. (William H. Taft) although he had been a judge in Ohio for many years previous.
I am indeed seeing a trend...quite a few Republicans seem to have stepped into Pennsylvania Avenue without any elected experience at all.
Even Papa Bush, did he ever hold elected office, or was he a staffer and appointee?
I am indeed seeing a trend...quite a few Republicans seem to have stepped into Pennsylvania Avenue without any elected experience at all.
Even Papa Bush, did he ever hold elected office, or was he a staffer and appointee?
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 20:04:54
And we should always remember when Lincoln gave the Gettysburg address is was panned, criticized as insipid and an obvious ploy to get re-elected.
All the major newspapers gave it very poor reviews, that was what most people at the time we told.
The M$M is the problem not part of the solution.
capt on 08/01/2008 20:04:54
And we should always remember when Lincoln gave the Gettysburg address is was panned, criticized as insipid and an obvious ploy to get re-elected.
All the major newspapers gave it very poor reviews, that was what most people at the time we told.
The M$M is the problem not part of the solution.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 20:08:41
Thom's right- they know how to do political theatre - where the hell is my party to stop this, it's undignified and with them pulling people from the gallery to the floor its a safety risk
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 20:08:41
Quote by Raine:
House Dems turn out the lights!
Holy crap... !!!
Thom's right- they know how to do political theatre - where the hell is my party to stop this, it's undignified and with them pulling people from the gallery to the floor its a safety risk
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 20:09:50
The M$M is eating this up!
They are so predictable - then on the "coverage" they will ask "well why not allow more drilling" - note they will never mention the 66,000,000 sq. acres they have leases on , have found oil but will not drill.
Why aren't the D's rubbing their collective noses in the truth?
AAARRRGGGHHH!
capt on 08/01/2008 20:09:50
Quote by Raine:
House Dems turn out the lights!
Holy crap... !!!
The M$M is eating this up!
They are so predictable - then on the "coverage" they will ask "well why not allow more drilling" - note they will never mention the 66,000,000 sq. acres they have leases on , have found oil but will not drill.
Why aren't the D's rubbing their collective noses in the truth?
AAARRRGGGHHH!
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 20:14:08
very good three minutes.
capt on 08/01/2008 20:14:08
very good three minutes.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/01/2008 20:26:42
wickedpam on 08/01/2008 20:26:42
I like that capt
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 20:28:29
capt on 08/01/2008 20:28:29
It was from
http://www.wiretapmag.org/
A cool younger (than I am) generation online mag. I get the newsletter and I can tell you once in a while it is pure gold!
http://www.wiretapmag.org/
A cool younger (than I am) generation online mag. I get the newsletter and I can tell you once in a while it is pure gold!
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 20:31:54
Raine on 08/01/2008 20:31:54
Capt, that video is amazing.... I saw it a few days ago, and forgot to post it here. Thanks!
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 20:34:27
Raine on 08/01/2008 20:34:27
So can someone tell me, is barack Obama back to being a christian again, as he is *the one* in that ad? OR is he charlton Hesten?
OR is he PAris or brittney? did PAris find God? is moses a muslim? I am so confused.
OR is he PAris or brittney? did PAris find God? is moses a muslim? I am so confused.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 20:35:00
How soon they forget. Geo. H.W. Bush was a congresscritter and Reagan's VP for eight years. Not to mention being ambassador to China and being DCIA. As much as I think Bush Sr is a douche, I will never know his impressive record of public service.
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 20:35:00
Quote by TriSec:
Hmm, skimming around, "Mr. Republican" also first held an elected office that was Oval. (William H. Taft) although he had been a judge in Ohio for many years previous.
I am indeed seeing a trend...quite a few Republicans seem to have stepped into Pennsylvania Avenue without any elected experience at all.
Even Papa Bush, did he ever hold elected office, or was he a staffer and appointee?
How soon they forget. Geo. H.W. Bush was a congresscritter and Reagan's VP for eight years. Not to mention being ambassador to China and being DCIA. As much as I think Bush Sr is a douche, I will never know his impressive record of public service.
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 20:36:30
capt on 08/01/2008 20:36:30
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 20:37:29
Raine on 08/01/2008 20:37:29
You know, I read in the paper today that Ted Turner had a about a two dozen of his Bisons killed in Montana...
Seeems as tho Anthrax killed them... anthrax occurs naturally in the soil there.
Seeems as tho Anthrax killed them... anthrax occurs naturally in the soil there.
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 20:44:25
capt on 08/01/2008 20:44:25
Barack Obama gets surprise backing from Boris Johnson (Mayor of London)
The London mayor, Boris Johnson, has endorsed the US presidential candidate Barack Obama, saying a win for him would be a "fantastic boost" for black people.
While the Conservative leader, David Cameron, has been careful not to express a preference about the outcome of November's US presidential election, Johnson laid bare his support for the US Democrat candidate in an interview with Square Mile magazine.
The mayor said an Obama victory would do "wonderful things for the confidence of black people around the world".
He made his comments in response to being asked whether, in light of London's problems with knife crime, a win for Obama would "have a beneficial influence on the self-image of some of London's black male youth".
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 20:53:28
capt on 08/01/2008 20:53:28
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 20:54:30
And lo, He said maketh some seriously awful campaign ads. And it was done. The people rejoicedeth in the awfulness and it was good.
Jeepers that is a stinky bad ad. Mocking, mean, ill-conceived; okay, I did like the clip from Heston's bathrobe epic, but otherwise just bad.
I am Leonard Pinth Garnell and this has been another episode of Bad Campaign Ad Theatre.
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 20:54:30
Quote by Raine:
new McCAin ad:
Now, McCain thinks he is being smart in this video, personally I think it is insulting to almost every spiritual person... What the HELL are these people thinking at that campaign?
Not only does it take things SO far out of context, it just mean and stupid and desprate.
And lo, He said maketh some seriously awful campaign ads. And it was done. The people rejoicedeth in the awfulness and it was good.
Jeepers that is a stinky bad ad. Mocking, mean, ill-conceived; okay, I did like the clip from Heston's bathrobe epic, but otherwise just bad.
I am Leonard Pinth Garnell and this has been another episode of Bad Campaign Ad Theatre.
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 20:55:02
Oh, yes. He was trollie. I guess he's getting paid to post again so he came back.
livingonli on 08/01/2008 20:55:02
Quote by Random:Quote by livingonli:
All hail Random.
Your buddy Donnie was on the Live Blog today.
REally...And i missed him...I didn't get to try out my bit on him....NO!
Was he trollie?
Oh, yes. He was trollie. I guess he's getting paid to post again so he came back.
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 21:02:10
capt on 08/01/2008 21:02:10
Quote by Mondobubba:
And lo, He said maketh some seriously awful campaign ads. And it was done. The people rejoicedeth in the awfulness and it was good.
Jeepers that is a stinky bad ad. Mocking, mean, ill-conceived; okay, I did like the clip from Heston's bathrobe epic, but otherwise just bad.
I am Leonard Pinth Garnell and this has been another episode of Bad Campaign Ad Theatre.
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 21:03:54
capt on 08/01/2008 21:03:54
On with the debates!
I am dying to see gramps stand there and actually say "it's just a flesh wound"
I am dying to see gramps stand there and actually say "it's just a flesh wound"
Comment by 
MMB on 08/01/2008 21:09:52
A fellow blogger and I often enjoyed a place down here in Jax. called Teds it was really great tender lean meat. And the place was very nice and also quite reasonable in price.
MMB on 08/01/2008 21:09:52
Quote by Raine:
You know, I read in the paper today that Ted Turner had a about a two dozen of his Bisons killed in Montana...
Seeems as tho Anthrax killed them... anthrax occurs naturally in the soil there.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 21:10:41
Raine on 08/01/2008 21:10:41
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 21:31:13
capt on 08/01/2008 21:31:13
Economic models predict clear Obama win in November
Well of course they do, it is only th McCain camp and the M$M that have any thoughts of a McCain victory.
Well of course they do, it is only th McCain camp and the M$M that have any thoughts of a McCain victory.
Comment by clintster on 08/01/2008 21:31:53
clintster on 08/01/2008 21:31:53
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet on the SMS or elsewhere, but check this out:
Hannity trips on his giant Flintstone head.
Hannity trips on his giant Flintstone head.
Comment by BobR on 08/01/2008 21:33:51
Not like Democrats. Indeed take the venerable James K. Polk:
:rofl:
BobR on 08/01/2008 21:33:51
Quote by TriSec:
I am indeed seeing a trend...quite a few Republicans seem to have stepped into Pennsylvania Avenue without any elected experience at all.
Not like Democrats. Indeed take the venerable James K. Polk:
:rofl:
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 21:34:23
Raine on 08/01/2008 21:34:23
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 21:40:13
Raine on 08/01/2008 21:40:13
Quote by clintster:
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet on the SMS or elsewhere, but check this out:
Hannity trips on his giant Flintstone head.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 21:41:42
Raine on 08/01/2008 21:41:42
Sorry Clinit... I meant to
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 22:54:25
capt on 08/01/2008 22:54:25
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 22:56:51
capt on 08/01/2008 22:56:51
More real good news!
Hillary Clinton asks not to be nominated at Democratic National Convention
Onward and upward my Obamaniacs!
Hillary Clinton asks not to be nominated at Democratic National Convention
Hillary Clinton has decided against being nominated for President at the Democrats' Denver convention, but many of her more die-hard partisans may vote for her anyway.
A source close to the New York senator confirmed she won't file a formal request to the convention asking to be nominated along with Barack Obama, who eked out the victory in their fierce primary slugfest.
"She is not going to submit the signed request," the insider told the Daily News. "People are still circulating petitions on her behalf, but this is a done deal."
Party rules stipulate that Clinton must ask in writing to be nominated herself and also submit a petition signed by 300 to 600 delegates. Without her signed request, petitions of support are meaningless.
Onward and upward my Obamaniacs!
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 23:05:57
livingonli on 08/01/2008 23:05:57
Tonight at work I am doing the Reds game as they play the Natinals in DC.
Comment by IzzyBitz on 08/01/2008 23:09:22
IzzyBitz on 08/01/2008 23:09:22
Here's my two cents to MSNBC. It's a little scatterbrained, but it's Fridee night.
“Viewers are incredibly engaged this election season, with a real appetite for political news,” said Phil Griffin, Senior Vice President, NBC News and Executive in Charge of MSNBC. "But sometimes, for viewers' own good -- and to maintain our good standing in the Village -- we have to self-censor. Some truths are just too painful, and we have a responsibility to protect the public as well as inform them." Network Executive statement.
Excuse me, but this is censorship. The only truth that is painful is THE TRUTH! Some people can't handle it. Too bad. It needs to be said.
Here's a quote from Pat, "If we had to take a million immigrants in, say Zulus, next year, or Englishmen, and put them up in Virginia, what group would be easier to assimilate and would cause less problems for the people of Virginia?" ("This Week With David Brinkley," 1/8/91)
Damn. There's that truth again, rearing its ugly head. Yes, MSNBC, we have access to things recorded long ago on the TV machine. Amazing, isn't it? Some of you think recorded things just disappear, like Wylie Coyote off the dreaded cliff, but then he reappears. Oops.
No more censorship, please. Thank you.
Grrr. That should make them pee themselves. 
And now it's time for the Good Doctor on the radio machine.
“Viewers are incredibly engaged this election season, with a real appetite for political news,” said Phil Griffin, Senior Vice President, NBC News and Executive in Charge of MSNBC. "But sometimes, for viewers' own good -- and to maintain our good standing in the Village -- we have to self-censor. Some truths are just too painful, and we have a responsibility to protect the public as well as inform them." Network Executive statement.
Excuse me, but this is censorship. The only truth that is painful is THE TRUTH! Some people can't handle it. Too bad. It needs to be said.
Here's a quote from Pat, "If we had to take a million immigrants in, say Zulus, next year, or Englishmen, and put them up in Virginia, what group would be easier to assimilate and would cause less problems for the people of Virginia?" ("This Week With David Brinkley," 1/8/91)
Damn. There's that truth again, rearing its ugly head. Yes, MSNBC, we have access to things recorded long ago on the TV machine. Amazing, isn't it? Some of you think recorded things just disappear, like Wylie Coyote off the dreaded cliff, but then he reappears. Oops.
No more censorship, please. Thank you.
Grrr. That should make them pee themselves.
And now it's time for the Good Doctor on the radio machine.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 23:12:01
Wonderful news!
I still wish she would address these PUMA's, but this is wonderful.
Hillary is showing class... I love that.
Raine on 08/01/2008 23:12:01
Quote by capt:
More real good news!
Hillary Clinton asks not to be nominated at Democratic National ConventionHillary Clinton has decided against being nominated for President at the Democrats' Denver convention, but many of her more die-hard partisans may vote for her anyway.
A source close to the New York senator confirmed she won't file a formal request to the convention asking to be nominated along with Barack Obama, who eked out the victory in their fierce primary slugfest.
"She is not going to submit the signed request," the insider told the Daily News. "People are still circulating petitions on her behalf, but this is a done deal."
Party rules stipulate that Clinton must ask in writing to be nominated herself and also submit a petition signed by 300 to 600 delegates. Without her signed request, petitions of support are meaningless.
Onward and upward my Obamaniacs!
Wonderful news!
I still wish she would address these PUMA's, but this is wonderful.
Hillary is showing class... I love that.
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 23:12:50
"Doing the Reds game?" means . . . .
I know it is the ball game but you have piqued my curiosity?
capt on 08/01/2008 23:12:50
Quote by livingonli:
Tonight at work I am doing the Reds game as they play the Nationals in DC.
"Doing the Reds game?" means . . . .
I know it is the ball game but you have piqued my curiosity?
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 23:17:01
capt on 08/01/2008 23:17:01
On the truth:
If the truth doesn't save us, what does that say about us?
Lois McMaster Bujold, Diplomatic Immunity, 2002
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 23:18:02
So who are tehy protecting us from PAt or the Doctor?
Either way ... if MSNBC can have both on, let the chips fall.
Censorship
is JUST that. At least they admit they did it... now they need to stop this shit. I live in America, not the USSR. And MSNBC doesn't know what my own self good is.
I have the internets... I am a grownup... and MSNBC/NBC is not my mommy.
Raine on 08/01/2008 23:18:02
Quote by IzzyBitz:
Here's my two cents to MSNBC. It's a little scatterbrained, but it's Fridee night.
“Viewers are incredibly engaged this election season, with a real appetite for political news,” said Phil Griffin, Senior Vice President, NBC News and Executive in Charge of MSNBC. "But sometimes, for viewers' own good -- and to maintain our good standing in the Village -- we have to self-censor. Some truths are just too painful, and we have a responsibility to protect the public as well as inform them." Network Executive statement.
Excuse me, but this is censorship. The only truth that is painful is THE TRUTH! Some people can't handle it. Too bad. It needs to be said.
Here's a quote from Pat, "If we had to take a million immigrants in, say Zulus, next year, or Englishmen, and put them up in Virginia, what group would be easier to assimilate and would cause less problems for the people of Virginia?" ("This Week With David Brinkley," 1/8/91)
Damn. There's that truth again, rearing its ugly head. Yes, MSNBC, we have access to things recorded long ago on the TV machine. Amazing, isn't it? Some of you think recorded things just disappear, like Wylie Coyote off the dreaded cliff, but then he reappears. Oops.
No more censorship, please. Thank you.
Grrr. That should make them pee themselves.
And now it's time for the Good Doctor on the radio machine.
Either way ... if MSNBC can have both on, let the chips fall.
Censorship
is JUST that. At least they admit they did it... now they need to stop this shit. I live in America, not the USSR. And MSNBC doesn't know what my own self good is.
I have the internets... I am a grownup... and MSNBC/NBC is not my mommy.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 23:22:35
Raine on 08/01/2008 23:22:35
LEAVE my doctor alone... damnitall.
:modbat:
That woman is smart, intelligent and honest.
and you know what? the facts are not liberal, they are what they are.. facts.
PAt buchanan never found a fact he could not spi...ok, he is a clock... he is correct twice a day...
:modbat:
That woman is smart, intelligent and honest.
and you know what? the facts are not liberal, they are what they are.. facts.
PAt buchanan never found a fact he could not spi...ok, he is a clock... he is correct twice a day...
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 23:33:16
So who is *the one* now sucka?
McCain is an idiot. I said it... and I feel a little bad cause I think he is no longer is in his right mind. SERIOUSLY.. I meant to say that .. he was in his *right* mind in '00, now he is a strange confused man, trying to be all hep to the intertubes, and making no sense.
this is not the McCain who ran in 2000, that is for damn sure. This is a man who isn't focusing on the issues that really matter to americans, a man who rather use a lame ass clip fom a movie (pick one... he is giving us a myriad of choices these last few day) than defend qnd protect what he really wants to do as president.
When was the last time ANYONE heard why his plan is better than Obama's?
I am an inquiring mind... and I want to know.
Does McCain think he has a better plan? What is his plan? Seriously, what is it?
Raine on 08/01/2008 23:33:16
So who is *the one* now sucka?
McCain is an idiot. I said it... and I feel a little bad cause I think he is no longer is in his right mind. SERIOUSLY.. I meant to say that .. he was in his *right* mind in '00, now he is a strange confused man, trying to be all hep to the intertubes, and making no sense.
this is not the McCain who ran in 2000, that is for damn sure. This is a man who isn't focusing on the issues that really matter to americans, a man who rather use a lame ass clip fom a movie (pick one... he is giving us a myriad of choices these last few day) than defend qnd protect what he really wants to do as president.
When was the last time ANYONE heard why his plan is better than Obama's?
I am an inquiring mind... and I want to know.
Does McCain think he has a better plan? What is his plan? Seriously, what is it?
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 23:46:26
As the people who've known me here know I work in the TV business doing technical work. Tonight I am working in FSN Ohio and we have the Reds game tonight (which beats the crappy FSN National programming which as Mondo would say blows goats for a nickel and gives change).
livingonli on 08/01/2008 23:46:26
Quote by capt:Quote by livingonli:
Tonight at work I am doing the Reds game as they play the Nationals in DC.
"Doing the Reds game?" means . . . .
I know it is the ball game but you have piqued my curiosity?
As the people who've known me here know I work in the TV business doing technical work. Tonight I am working in FSN Ohio and we have the Reds game tonight (which beats the crappy FSN National programming which as Mondo would say blows goats for a nickel and gives change).
Comment by IzzyBitz on 08/02/2008 00:08:40
Pat got beat up by a girrrrl!
Mommy, mommy, the lady who looks like an eight-year-old boy said mean words to me.
IzzyBitz on 08/02/2008 00:08:40
Quote by Raine:
LEAVE my doctor alone... damnitall.
:modbat:
That woman is smart, intelligent and honest.
and you know what? the facts are not liberal, they are what they are.. facts.
PAt buchanan never found a fact he could not spi...ok, he is a clock... he is correct twice a day...
Pat got beat up by a girrrrl!
Mommy, mommy, the lady who looks like an eight-year-old boy said mean words to me.
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 00:26:21
Kewl daddio! It sounds like fun (from a distance)
capt on 08/02/2008 00:26:21
Quote by livingonli:
As the people who've known me here know I work in the TV business doing technical work. Tonight I am working in FSN Ohio and we have the Reds game tonight (which beats the crappy FSN National programming which as Mondo would say blows goats for a nickel and gives change).
Kewl daddio! It sounds like fun (from a distance)
Comment by Raine on 08/02/2008 01:08:17
Raine on 08/02/2008 01:08:17
dammit ! you people are slacking tonite! :P
Come on.. pat buchanan got beat up by a girrrrrl...
(ech... I should shut up... I am going out tonite... if Leo rising shows up. tell er I love and one of these days I am gonna actually spend some quality blog tine with her!)
And, I know tha tLiam missed it last night... but he needs t know that he has a true BIG BLUE bonifide fan here! (not a coatail-er here) Raine is as big a fan of Big Blue is of the Bo-Sox.
(tosses football in end zone)
Does dance.
Opens beer...
Come on.. pat buchanan got beat up by a girrrrrl...
(ech... I should shut up... I am going out tonite... if Leo rising shows up. tell er I love and one of these days I am gonna actually spend some quality blog tine with her!)
And, I know tha tLiam missed it last night... but he needs t know that he has a true BIG BLUE bonifide fan here! (not a coatail-er here) Raine is as big a fan of Big Blue is of the Bo-Sox.
(tosses football in end zone)
Does dance.
Opens beer...
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 01:11:27
capt on 08/02/2008 01:11:27
Pat is a KOM
*dons tin foil hat*
*dons tin foil hat*
Comment by Raine on 08/02/2008 01:12:28
Raine on 08/02/2008 01:12:28
Watched Olberman, and he is as curious as I am (and Randi Rhodes proved to be --- but I was first!!!) about antraxc suicide guy.
And know I see Malloy is as well.
This suicide is a bunch of HooHaw. Olberman played the McCain appearance in 2001 on letterman when he said. Iraq is next... trying to make it look like the anthrax was from there.
it is a separate story, seeming to me, that people were feeding Grampy shit, but it is telling either way. McCAin was the one --- the FIRST one who tried to tie our DOMESTIC terrorist attck to Iraq.
And make no mistake --- those anthrax threats ---and DEATHS -- were domestic terrorism, imo.
And know I see Malloy is as well.
This suicide is a bunch of HooHaw. Olberman played the McCain appearance in 2001 on letterman when he said. Iraq is next... trying to make it look like the anthrax was from there.
it is a separate story, seeming to me, that people were feeding Grampy shit, but it is telling either way. McCAin was the one --- the FIRST one who tried to tie our DOMESTIC terrorist attck to Iraq.
And make no mistake --- those anthrax threats ---and DEATHS -- were domestic terrorism, imo.
Comment by clintster on 08/02/2008 01:13:18
clintster on 08/02/2008 01:13:18
Well, I finally got to hear Stephie's Kids, thanks to Shane-O by way of Da Modz. Cute. As. Bug's. Teeth!
Comment by Raine on 08/02/2008 01:15:47
KOM?
Tell me... What is? I googled KOM... I came up with something from Kosovo... :P
Raine on 08/02/2008 01:15:47
Quote by capt:
Pat is a KOM
*dons tin foil hat*
Tell me... What is? I googled KOM... I came up with something from Kosovo... :P
Comment by Raine on 08/02/2008 01:18:06
Raine on 08/02/2008 01:18:06
I hate how slow my computer gets. I type faster that it shows up... and I press *add comment* and then my typing makes me look, well, like I am a *little Slow*... which I would BE if I waited for my typing to catch up to the loading of the words and the flaven... waiting... waiting....
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 01:18:53
capt on 08/02/2008 01:18:53
The anthrax attacks were to make some of the politicians sign onto the Patriot act - sight unseen.
They did.
It was a government operation by the Busheney crime family. No doubt.
They did.
It was a government operation by the Busheney crime family. No doubt.
Comment by livingonli on 08/02/2008 01:18:58
The poor little paleo-con's pride must have been really wounded by that. He was upstaged not only by a woman but by one of them l-l-lesbians. I guess MSNBC management took pity on him.
:violin: <----- he needs the teeny tiny version.
livingonli on 08/02/2008 01:18:58
Quote by IzzyBitz:Quote by Raine:
LEAVE my doctor alone... damnitall.
:modbat:
That woman is smart, intelligent and honest.
and you know what? the facts are not liberal, they are what they are.. facts.
PAt buchanan never found a fact he could not spi...ok, he is a clock... he is correct twice a day...
Pat got beat up by a girrrrl!
Mommy, mommy, the lady who looks like an eight-year-old boy said mean words to me.
The poor little paleo-con's pride must have been really wounded by that. He was upstaged not only by a woman but by one of them l-l-lesbians. I guess MSNBC management took pity on him.
:violin: <----- he needs the teeny tiny version.
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 01:21:10
capt on 08/02/2008 01:21:10
Knights of Malta
as is GHWB, GWB, and many others -
NWO bat-shi'ite crazy stuff. . .
as is GHWB, GWB, and many others -
NWO bat-shi'ite crazy stuff. . .
Comment by liam1965 on 08/02/2008 01:24:23
I wonder what's up with crooksandliars today. I keep getting errors trying to follow this link (I've been busy today, just reviewing now).
Anyone else having problems?
liam1965 on 08/02/2008 01:24:23
Quote by clintster:
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet on the SMS or elsewhere, but check this out:
Hannity trips on his giant Flintstone head.
I wonder what's up with crooksandliars today. I keep getting errors trying to follow this link (I've been busy today, just reviewing now).
Anyone else having problems?
Comment by Raine on 08/02/2008 01:25:54
Raine on 08/02/2008 01:25:54
Whatevah!
Going to see *unknown Hinson tonite* who BTW is the voice of *Earlie* on the Squidbillies.... (go look at our wedding announcement... that squid is *earlie*)
Capt, Random... and everyone else who wasn't around... (I think Scoop could be part of that group) This was our wedding announcement... -- A friend put on the show this together for us...
Check it out.
:peace:
Going to see *unknown Hinson tonite* who BTW is the voice of *Earlie* on the Squidbillies.... (go look at our wedding announcement... that squid is *earlie*)
Capt, Random... and everyone else who wasn't around... (I think Scoop could be part of that group) This was our wedding announcement...
-- A friend put on the show this together for us... Check it out.
:peace:
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/02/2008 01:26:19
Mondobubba on 08/02/2008 01:26:19
Hiedho all. Back from the gaming and the flaven!
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 01:26:53
capt on 08/02/2008 01:26:53
C&L is not working for me either. 
Comment by Raine on 08/02/2008 01:31:09
Aha...
Have no doubt about the Patriot act..That was my gut feeling all along... the KOM... I will go edjumakate myself. And C&L has been screwy for me as well tonite.
Raine on 08/02/2008 01:31:09
Quote by capt:
The anthrax attacks were to make some of the politicians sign onto the Patriot act - sight unseen.
They did.
It was a government operation by the Busheney crime family. No doubt.
Have no doubt about the Patriot act..That was my gut feeling all along... the KOM... I will go edjumakate myself. And C&L has been screwy for me as well tonite.
Comment by TriSec on 08/02/2008 01:31:17
TriSec on 08/02/2008 01:31:17
Evening, folks!
The sox are sucking less tonight, but they still smell.
The sox are sucking less tonight, but they still smell.
Comment by livingonli on 08/02/2008 01:32:23
livingonli on 08/02/2008 01:32:23
You guys have so much fun in Atlanta.
Comment by liam1965 on 08/02/2008 01:34:02
I mostly agree with the substance of this post (and the one to which it replies), the "They have to stop this shit" reminds me of a song Paul Hipp posted on Huffington Post a while back, when Bush was overheard saying something similar to someone at the G8 summit last year.
Paul Hipp - Stop This Shit
liam1965 on 08/02/2008 01:34:02
Quote by Raine:
So who are tehy protecting us from PAt or the Doctor?
Either way ... if MSNBC can have both on, let the chips fall.
Censorship
is JUST that. At least they admit they did it... now they need to stop this shit. I live in America, not the USSR. And MSNBC doesn't know what my own self good is.
I have the internets... I am a grownup... and MSNBC/NBC is not my mommy.
I mostly agree with the substance of this post (and the one to which it replies), the "They have to stop this shit" reminds me of a song Paul Hipp posted on Huffington Post a while back, when Bush was overheard saying something similar to someone at the G8 summit last year.
Paul Hipp - Stop This Shit
Comment by liam1965 on 08/02/2008 01:36:21
Is there some problem with the tubes that Ted Stevens tells me make up the internets? Do we need to call a plumber? 4F is being awfully slow on me tonight, too.
Anyone else?
liam1965 on 08/02/2008 01:36:21
C&L is not working for me either.
Is there some problem with the tubes that Ted Stevens tells me make up the internets? Do we need to call a plumber? 4F is being awfully slow on me tonight, too.
Anyone else?
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 01:38:47
capt on 08/02/2008 01:38:47
The piece Slanthead (Hannity) played was:
Comment by Raine on 08/02/2008 01:38:48
well tha tis lovely... At the game last night the yanks got thier ASSES kicked.
And ther eI was --- trying to support the *hometown team* (everytime BobR pointed out how badly the yanks were losing ... as a born and bred member of the Empire state... my middle finger flipped)
Look... it's what we we do...
Raine on 08/02/2008 01:38:48
Quote by TriSec:
Evening, folks!
The sox are sucking less tonight, but they still smell.
And ther eI was --- trying to support the *hometown team* (everytime BobR pointed out how badly the yanks were losing ... as a born and bred member of the Empire state... my middle finger flipped)
Look... it's what we we do...
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 01:39:55
capt on 08/02/2008 01:39:55
4f (this blog) has been very fast for me since it was moved to the new server.
FWIW
FWIW
Comment by Raine on 08/02/2008 01:42:00
you can go to user actions (set USer options) and set the blog up to show only the last *x* number of posts...
But ALL of the intertubes are slow for me tonite.
I thought it was becuase I was a Bombastic customer...
Heya Liam!
Raine on 08/02/2008 01:42:00
Quote by liam1965:C&L is not working for me either.
Is there some problem with the tubes that Ted Stevens tells me make up the internets? Do we need to call a plumber? 4F is being awfully slow on me tonight, too.
Anyone else?
But ALL of the intertubes are slow for me tonite.
I thought it was becuase I was a Bombastic customer...
Heya Liam!
Comment by Raine on 08/02/2008 01:43:50
Raine on 08/02/2008 01:43:50
Alrighty Everyone... I am out... I will see ya all later!
This one is for Izzy:
:D
Latah!
This one is for Izzy:
:D
Latah!
Comment by livingonli on 08/02/2008 01:44:00
livingonli on 08/02/2008 01:44:00
Raine, is your Fox station showing tomorrow's Yankee game? Actually, the Braves are in the Fox window so you might get that game at the time.
Comment by liam1965 on 08/02/2008 01:44:40
Actually, I reveiwed and saw it, but it was late enough that I figured if I replied, no one would see THAT, so I didn't bother to.
We can revel in our championness for another few weeks until the new season starts!
Woo hoo!
Liam.
liam1965 on 08/02/2008 01:44:40
Quote by Raine:
And, I know tha tLiam missed it last night... but he needs t know that he has a true BIG BLUE bonifide fan here! (not a coatail-er here) Raine is as big a fan of Big Blue is of the Bo-Sox.
(tosses football in end zone)
Does dance.
Opens beer...
Actually, I reveiwed and saw it, but it was late enough that I figured if I replied, no one would see THAT, so I didn't bother to.
We can revel in our championness for another few weeks until the new season starts!
Woo hoo!
Liam.
Comment by liam1965 on 08/02/2008 01:50:01
I agree, it's most likely, given that there weren't any more, and there were no right wing targets.
My question is this: Given that this is likely, why balk at (as Sy Hersh reports) having Navy Seals dress up as Iranians and putting them on faux Iranian PT boats and having a little shooting?
They say they gave up on the idea because they "couldn't have Americans shooting at Americans", but I suspect it's not that they had any conscience about it, but rather that they figured some of the seals might, and so the story might not remain secret long enough to let us go to war in Iran.
liam1965 on 08/02/2008 01:50:01
Quote by capt:
The anthrax attacks were to make some of the politicians sign onto the Patriot act - sight unseen.
They did.
It was a government operation by the Busheney crime family. No doubt.
I agree, it's most likely, given that there weren't any more, and there were no right wing targets.
My question is this: Given that this is likely, why balk at (as Sy Hersh reports) having Navy Seals dress up as Iranians and putting them on faux Iranian PT boats and having a little shooting?
They say they gave up on the idea because they "couldn't have Americans shooting at Americans", but I suspect it's not that they had any conscience about it, but rather that they figured some of the seals might, and so the story might not remain secret long enough to let us go to war in Iran.
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 02:00:00
capt on 08/02/2008 02:00:00
Liam,
Have you read the Northwoods memo?
Nothing is beneath these slugs. . .
Have you read the Northwoods memo?
Nothing is beneath these slugs. . .
Comment by liam1965 on 08/02/2008 02:02:31
liam1965 on 08/02/2008 02:02:31
I'm not sure I've heard of the Northwoods memo. I'll have to do a bit of searching.
I do not disagree with your conclusion, though.
I do not disagree with your conclusion, though.
Comment by liam1965 on 08/02/2008 02:04:18
liam1965 on 08/02/2008 02:04:18
Oh, not recent. The one from just before I was born.
It didn't pop directly in to mind, but if that's the one you meant... Yeah, nothing surprises me.
One of the reasons I have suffered from depression lo these many years, I just can't bring myself to believe the best in humanity as a whole. :(
It didn't pop directly in to mind, but if that's the one you meant... Yeah, nothing surprises me.
One of the reasons I have suffered from depression lo these many years, I just can't bring myself to believe the best in humanity as a whole. :(
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 02:12:47
capt on 08/02/2008 02:12:47
Bush wanted to paint an airplane in UN markings and fly over Iraq (across the fly zone) hoping Iraq would shoot it down.
Same plan pretty much.
They are evil SOB's that think on that level.
Same plan pretty much.
They are evil SOB's that think on that level.
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 02:17:06
capt on 08/02/2008 02:17:06
LBJ's Ghost? George Bush wanted a "Gulf of Tonkin" in Iraq
From a LA Times piece quoted in the link above . . .
Bush proposed an alternative: paint a U.S. spy plane in United Nations colors and see if that didn't tempt Hussein's forces to shoot at it. In any case, he said, the war was "penciled in" for March 10 and the United States would go ahead with or without a second U.N. resolution.
Blair replied that he was "solidly with" the president.
From a LA Times piece quoted in the link above . . .
Comment by liam1965 on 08/02/2008 02:18:59
liam1965 on 08/02/2008 02:18:59
Yep, I knew about that as well. But I thought that was part of the Downing Street memo, not the Northwoods memo, which dealt with Cuba back in 1962...
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 02:26:34
capt on 08/02/2008 02:26:34
Northwoods PDF (15 pages)
That is correct, I was pointing to the similarities between the actions planned in 1962 to actions taken through the years. There were some very similar ops in central and south America too.
Looking at the consistently evil - ends justify the means - mentality was the subject I was speaking to. As in dressing up seals as Iranians.
Actually we protect the "Tank Girls" on the border or Iraq and Iran. they have Iranian uniforms and equip. It is a no brainer. They don't even need seals.
FWIW
That is correct, I was pointing to the similarities between the actions planned in 1962 to actions taken through the years. There were some very similar ops in central and south America too.
Looking at the consistently evil - ends justify the means - mentality was the subject I was speaking to. As in dressing up seals as Iranians.
Actually we protect the "Tank Girls" on the border or Iraq and Iran. they have Iranian uniforms and equip. It is a no brainer. They don't even need seals.
FWIW
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 02:33:46
capt on 08/02/2008 02:33:46
Military action 'would destabilise Iraq'
MEK aka "tank girls" has many women although not all female. Suddenly I am reminded the current spate of suicide bombers have been women.
"Coincidence doesn't just happen "
~ Homer J Simpson
The balancing act has become more difficult for Iraq since George Bush successfully requested $400m (£200m) from Congress last year to fund covert operations aimed at destabilising the Iranian leadership. Some of these operations are likely to be launched from Iraqi territory with the help of Iranian militants opposed to Tehran. The most effective of these opponent groups is the Mujahedin-e-Khalq (MEK), which enraged the Iraqi government by staging a conference last month at Camp Ashraf, north-east of Baghdad. It demanded the closure of the Iranian embassy and the expulsion of all Iranian agents in Iraq. "It was a huge meeting" said Dr Othman. "All the tribes and political leaders who are against Iran, but are also against the Iraqi government, were there." He said the anti-Iranian meeting could not have taken place without US permission.
The Americans disarmed the 3,700 MEK militants, who had long been allied to Saddam Hussein, at Camp Ashraf in 2003, but they remain well-organised and well-financed. The extent of their support within Iran remains unknown, but they are extremely effective as an intelligence and propaganda organisation.
MEK aka "tank girls" has many women although not all female. Suddenly I am reminded the current spate of suicide bombers have been women.
"Coincidence doesn't just happen "
~ Homer J Simpson
Comment by TriSec on 08/02/2008 02:36:44
TriSec on 08/02/2008 02:36:44
Yeesh, going to the twelfth at Fenway...
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 02:48:15
capt on 08/02/2008 02:48:15
Washington 'snubbed Iran offer'
Tehran proposed ending support for Lebanese and Palestinian militant groups and helping to stabilise Iraq following the US-led invasion.
Offers, including making its nuclear programme more transparent, were conditional on the US ending hostility.
But Vice-President Dick Cheney's office rejected the plan, the official said.
The offers came in a letter, seen by Newsnight, which was unsigned but which the US state department apparently believed to have been approved by the highest authorities.
In return for its concessions, Tehran asked Washington to end its hostility, to end sanctions, and to disband the Iranian rebel group the Mujahedeen-e-Khalq and repatriate its members.
Comment by TriSec on 08/02/2008 02:48:16
TriSec on 08/02/2008 02:48:16
Oh, and Obama and McCain have been dueling all night on NESN.
I have my back to the TV most nights, as my computer faces in the other direction.
McCain's ads, all I hear is "Obama! Obama! Obama!" As a disinterested observer, that actually sounds positive to my disconnected ear.
Of course, I turn around and watch the Obama ads...
I have my back to the TV most nights, as my computer faces in the other direction.
McCain's ads, all I hear is "Obama! Obama! Obama!" As a disinterested observer, that actually sounds positive to my disconnected ear.
Of course, I turn around and watch the Obama ads...
Comment by livingonli on 08/02/2008 02:49:11
At least my game got off on time. Reds lost to the Nats 5-2.
livingonli on 08/02/2008 02:49:11
Quote by TriSec:
Yeesh, going to the twelfth at Fenway...
At least my game got off on time. Reds lost to the Nats 5-2.
Comment by TriSec on 08/02/2008 02:57:58
TriSec on 08/02/2008 02:57:58
SOX WIN!!!!
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 03:00:24
capt on 08/02/2008 03:00:24
Comment by capt on 08/02/2008 03:07:08
capt on 08/02/2008 03:07:08
Last one on the MEK - one more reason to always back Kucinich.
Kucinich Questions The President On US Trained Insurgents In Iran
Kucinich Questions The President On US Trained Insurgents In Iran
The Mujahedin e-Khalq (MEK), an Iranian anti-government group which has been listed as a “terrorist group” by the State Department since 1997, is another anti-government group that has received U.S. support. An article by Jim Lobe published on Antiwar.com on February 11, 2005 claims that Pentagon civilians and Vice President Cheney’s office are among those in the U.S. government who support the MEK. His article further describes how according to Philip Giraldi, a former CIA official and a source in an article about this subject in the American Conservative magazine, U.S. Special Forces have been directing members of the MEK in carrying out reconnaissance and intelligence collection in Iran from bases in Afghanistan and Balochistan, Pakistan since the summer of 2004.
Seymour Hersh’s April 10, 2006 article in the New Yorker also confirms that the U.S. troops are establishing contact with anti-government ethnic-minority groups in Iran. According to a government consultant with close ties to civilians in the Pentagon, American combat troops now operating in Iran are “working with minority groups in Iran, including the Azeris, in the north, the Baluchis, in the southeast, and the Kurds, in the northeast.” The consultant further says, “The troops are studying the terrain and giving away walking-around money to ethnic tribes, and recruiting scouts from local tribes and shepherds.”
Comment by livingonli on 08/02/2008 07:25:56
livingonli on 08/02/2008 07:25:56
Had to sneak one of these tonight;