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Then and Now... a dishonor to self and country.
Author: Raine
Date: 08/04/2008 12:28:03
Let's Start with some happy thoughts for Barack Obama. Today is his 47th Birthday! 
To contrast, at the end of the month, it will be John McCain's 72nd.
The Olympics start Friday. I contend that this week Barack Obama will pick his running mate. The Olympics end a day before the DNC, and I think that he will want this choice put out there before Bejing, as the already cancelled news will be even more cancelled for this debacle called sports. I have decided to stop speculating about this, as the other pundits and the bloggers have been crazy about it. Well, anyway -- on to the Monday Blog...
John McCain, February 19, 2000
Compare and Contrast, From John McCain's appearance on Hardball™, Just a few months ago (it's less than a minute) :
Interesting the things that can change a man. He is no more a maverick than the most petulant of liars. He is a man that will play dirty, and will do anything to win. He is using the most famous of all the rovian tactics... find your opponents strength and attack it.
What he has done is shown himself not to be a maverick, but a bitter nasty old man that will do whatever he can to get what he wants. I have never seen a person discard personal character and honor so quickly for personal gain. In other words... according to the John McCain of 2000 --
He has dishonored this nation he loves, and himself by letting ambition overcome principle.
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
To contrast, at the end of the month, it will be John McCain's 72nd. The Olympics start Friday. I contend that this week Barack Obama will pick his running mate. The Olympics end a day before the DNC, and I think that he will want this choice put out there before Bejing, as the already cancelled news will be even more cancelled for this debacle called sports. I have decided to stop speculating about this, as the other pundits and the bloggers have been crazy about it. Well, anyway -- on to the Monday Blog...
The American people deserve to be treated with respect by those who seek to lead the nation. And I promise you, you will have my respect until my last day on earth. The greatest blessing of my life was to have been born an American, and I will never dishonor the nation I love by letting myself -- I will never dishonor the nation I love or myself by letting ambition overcome principle. Never. Never. Never.
My friends, I say to you I am a uniter, not a divider. I don't just say it, I live it. I'm a real reformer. I'm a real reformer. I don't just say it, I live it. And I'm a fighter for this country, and I don't just say it, I live it.
Compare and Contrast, From John McCain's appearance on Hardball™, Just a few months ago (it's less than a minute) :
Interesting the things that can change a man. He is no more a maverick than the most petulant of liars. He is a man that will play dirty, and will do anything to win. He is using the most famous of all the rovian tactics... find your opponents strength and attack it.
What he has done is shown himself not to be a maverick, but a bitter nasty old man that will do whatever he can to get what he wants. I have never seen a person discard personal character and honor so quickly for personal gain. In other words... according to the John McCain of 2000 --
He has dishonored this nation he loves, and himself by letting ambition overcome principle.
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 08/04/2008 12:31:47
wickedpam on 08/04/2008 12:31:47
Morning 
:yawn:
:yawn:
Comment by 
TriSec on 08/04/2008 12:45:09
TriSec on 08/04/2008 12:45:09
John McCain, circa 2000, became only the second Republican in my life that I have voted for. (The other being William Weld, former governor of this Commonwealth.)
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Bush, Cheney, Rove, et al, are living proof.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Bush, Cheney, Rove, et al, are living proof.
Comment by 
capt on 08/04/2008 12:47:37
capt on 08/04/2008 12:47:37
Good Morning!
Great post and really it is very sad to see McCain and what he has become.
McCain has lost it - (wow am I redundant and ineloquent!)
Thanks!
Great post and really it is very sad to see McCain and what he has become.
McCain has lost it - (wow am I redundant and ineloquent!)
Thanks!
Comment by capt on 08/04/2008 12:50:59
capt on 08/04/2008 12:50:59
(from the last thread)
I never said "happy" just amazing. . .
Neener neener, you can always be amazed! Happy is just a mindset that people impose on themselves. Happy and sad are two states of the same being - why would one state be better than the other?
Just sayin'
Capt, you're missing the point. I'm way too egotistical to be happy knowing how insignificant I am.
I never said "happy" just amazing. . .
Neener neener, you can always be amazed! Happy is just a mindset that people impose on themselves. Happy and sad are two states of the same being - why would one state be better than the other?
Just sayin'
Comment by capt on 08/04/2008 12:55:23
capt on 08/04/2008 12:55:23
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 08/04/2008 12:56:08
velveeta jones on 08/04/2008 12:56:08
Happy Birthday Barack! As a present to us, your "fans" 
could you please take back the Off Shore Drilling appeasingcompromise.
:modbat:
could you please take back the Off Shore Drilling :modbat:
Comment by capt on 08/04/2008 12:59:01
capt on 08/04/2008 12:59:01
'Wet & Wild' John McCain courts the biker vote
[Not-safe-for-work picture removed. Picture can be found at the link]
[Not-safe-for-work picture removed. Picture can be found at the link]
Comment by capt on 08/04/2008 13:02:09
capt on 08/04/2008 13:02:09
Comment by TriSec on 08/04/2008 13:06:23
TriSec on 08/04/2008 13:06:23
GAH!
Hey now, some of us access this blog in the office!
Hey now, some of us access this blog in the office!
Comment by 
Raine on 08/04/2008 13:07:49
Raine on 08/04/2008 13:07:49
Shane-O!!! right outta the gate!
Comment by 
liam1965 on 08/04/2008 13:08:55
Because "happy" feels good. "Not happy" makes me feel bad.
And as I said, it's all about me me me.
liam1965 on 08/04/2008 13:08:55
Quote by capt:
(from the last thread)Capt, you're missing the point. I'm way too egotistical to be happy knowing how insignificant I am.
I never said "happy" just amazing. . .
Neener neener, you can always be amazed! Happy is just a mindset that people impose on themselves. Happy and sad are two states of the same being - why would one state be better than the other?
Just sayin'
Because "happy" feels good. "Not happy" makes me feel bad.
And as I said, it's all about me me me.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/04/2008 13:09:06
wickedpam on 08/04/2008 13:09:06
Yeah Shane-O :D
Capt -
bad picture to start out on a Monday!
Capt -
bad picture to start out on a Monday!
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/04/2008 13:11:16
velveeta jones on 08/04/2008 13:11:16
Oh Poppy Bush! You idiot!!
Comment by liam1965 on 08/04/2008 13:11:35
And, apparently, having cottage cheese for breakfast.
(A joke I, of all people, should not be making)
liam1965 on 08/04/2008 13:11:35
Quote by capt:
'Wet & Wild' John McCain courts the biker vote
And, apparently, having cottage cheese for breakfast.
(A joke I, of all people, should not be making)
Comment by capt on 08/04/2008 13:12:12
Whoop's I thought it was Cindy McCain with a bunch of junk in the trunk.
capt on 08/04/2008 13:12:12
Quote by wickedpam:
Yeah Shane-O :D
Capt -
Whoop's I thought it was Cindy McCain with a bunch of junk in the trunk.
Comment by 
BobR on 08/04/2008 13:12:22
I removed the picture.
BobR on 08/04/2008 13:12:22
Quote by TriSec:
GAH!
Hey now, some of us access this blog in the office!
I removed the picture.
Comment by capt on 08/04/2008 13:12:48
capt on 08/04/2008 13:12:48
Sheboygan!
Comment by liam1965 on 08/04/2008 13:17:12
Which also removed it from my reply, which makes the "cottage cheese" joke not merely tasteless and unfair, but completely nonsensical as well. ;-)
liam1965 on 08/04/2008 13:17:12
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
GAH!
Hey now, some of us access this blog in the office!
I removed the picture.
Which also removed it from my reply, which makes the "cottage cheese" joke not merely tasteless and unfair, but completely nonsensical as well. ;-)
Comment by Raine on 08/04/2008 13:17:46
Raine on 08/04/2008 13:17:46
I still found the pic pretty damn funny... albeit not so work safe... 
I smell photoshop fun!
I smell photoshop fun!
Comment by TriSec on 08/04/2008 13:20:04
TriSec on 08/04/2008 13:20:04
Hmm, I've heard more than once since Barack went overseas that he's become the "acting president".
Maybe that's what the press and McCain are really upset over....
Maybe that's what the press and McCain are really upset over....
Comment by 
Shane-O on 08/04/2008 13:26:41
Shane-O on 08/04/2008 13:26:41
I hate to say this (I might get things thrown at me :ducks:) -- Fred Barnes is not completely wrong.
I don't think that the Dems are wrong and the Repubs are right on the drilling issue - but the Republicans are very good at making a message very simple (i.e. ignoring all nuance for the sake of political gain).
They say - gas prices are too high. People agree.
They say if there was more oil, gas prices would be lower. Not true, but easy for the uninformed to accept.
Therefore, increased drilling means your gas prices will go down. Also not true, but easy for the uninformed to accept.
Thus, 60%+ of Americans side with the Republicans on more drilling.
A purely political move - and the Dems are now reacting. Pelosi on This Week did a horrible job of explaining the nuance. Obama said that compromise might include concessions (doesn't "compromise" include them by definition?)
Republicans own this issue. I don't know that there is a way out of it for Dems, politically - as sound-bites rule - not long, enlightened explanations.
I don't think that the Dems are wrong and the Repubs are right on the drilling issue - but the Republicans are very good at making a message very simple (i.e. ignoring all nuance for the sake of political gain).
They say - gas prices are too high. People agree.
They say if there was more oil, gas prices would be lower. Not true, but easy for the uninformed to accept.
Therefore, increased drilling means your gas prices will go down. Also not true, but easy for the uninformed to accept.
Thus, 60%+ of Americans side with the Republicans on more drilling.
A purely political move - and the Dems are now reacting. Pelosi on This Week did a horrible job of explaining the nuance. Obama said that compromise might include concessions (doesn't "compromise" include them by definition?)
Republicans own this issue. I don't know that there is a way out of it for Dems, politically - as sound-bites rule - not long, enlightened explanations.
Comment by 
m-hadley on 08/04/2008 13:28:23
m-hadley on 08/04/2008 13:28:23
Mornin' Everybody :coffee:
Hope that your week is off to a great start. Another great post Raine - Happy Birthday to the next president of these United States (Senator Obama) 
More from Tulsa later, kids...
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :peace:
:coffee:Hope that your week is off to a great start. Another great post Raine - Happy Birthday to the next president of these United States (Senator Obama)
More from Tulsa later, kids...
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :peace:
Comment by wickedpam on 08/04/2008 13:30:55
wickedpam on 08/04/2008 13:30:55
Shane-O I tend to agree - we need someone who's good at PR or with an advertising background who can come up with catchy slug lines to get our point across.
Comment by liam1965 on 08/04/2008 13:31:25
liam1965 on 08/04/2008 13:31:25
Am I just too revisionist-idealistic? Was there ever a time when the people running this country actually CARED about this country, instead of caring about what lies they could make the electorate believe, so as to increase their own power?
Comment by TriSec on 08/04/2008 13:31:30
TriSec on 08/04/2008 13:31:30
I don't know about anyone else, but I'd prefer not to destroy the environment and pollute our coastlines for my son just so we can pay 5 cents a gallon less for gas in seven years.
I am holding that in reserve for the wingnuts-in-law, but they also believe McCain and the war, and the hundred-years comment fell on deaf ears, despite the prospect of their only grandchild being drafted and getting shot at when he turns 18.
This is what we're up against.
I am holding that in reserve for the wingnuts-in-law, but they also believe McCain and the war, and the hundred-years comment fell on deaf ears, despite the prospect of their only grandchild being drafted and getting shot at when he turns 18.
This is what we're up against.
Comment by m-hadley on 08/04/2008 13:34:40
Shane-O,
I must agree with you - if the Dems lose this election it will be because of nuance - something most people either don't get or simply don't pay any attention to, mostly because it complicates their simplistic view of the world and goodness knows most people like their messages simple and stupid - "USA USA USA"
BTB, Obama's messages are nothing if nor nuanced (read intelligent :P) Just mho...
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :dance:
m-hadley on 08/04/2008 13:34:40
Quote by Shane-O:
I hate to say this (I might get things thrown at me :ducks:) -- Fred Barnes is not completely wrong.
I don't think that the Dems are wrong and the Repubs are right on the drilling issue - but the Republicans are very good at making a message very simple (i.e. ignoring all nuance for the sake of political gain).
They say - gas prices are too high. People agree.
They say if there was more oil, gas prices would be lower. Not true, but easy for the uninformed to accept.
Therefore, increased drilling means your gas prices will go down. Also not true, but easy for the uninformed to accept.
Thus, 60%+ of Americans side with the Republicans on more drilling.
A purely political move - and the Dems are now reacting. Pelosi on This Week did a horrible job of explaining the nuance. Obama said that compromise might include concessions (doesn't "compromise" include them by definition?)
Republicans own this issue. I don't know that there is a way out of it for Dems, politically - as sound-bites rule - not long, enlightened explanations.
Shane-O,
I must agree with you - if the Dems lose this election it will be because of nuance - something most people either don't get or simply don't pay any attention to, mostly because it complicates their simplistic view of the world and goodness knows most people like their messages simple and stupid - "USA USA USA"
BTB, Obama's messages are nothing if nor nuanced (read intelligent :P) Just mho...Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :dance:
Comment by capt on 08/04/2008 13:36:54
capt on 08/04/2008 13:36:54
Maybe Barack is thinking he would encourage drilling in the existing 66 million acres of leases held by oil companies?
Note - Barack is talking about drilling not "more leases"
The two issues have been conflagrated by the republicans and the oil companies but the two things are nearly juxaposed at this point.
Barack is pretty smart - I think he gets it.
Not to mention Barack is safe on the subject because it will take congress and the senate to pass on more drilling or leases so he can say anything and let the house and senate nix the whole thing in "opposition" to Barack.
Altogether a tempest in a teapot.
Note - Barack is talking about drilling not "more leases"
The two issues have been conflagrated by the republicans and the oil companies but the two things are nearly juxaposed at this point.
Barack is pretty smart - I think he gets it.
Not to mention Barack is safe on the subject because it will take congress and the senate to pass on more drilling or leases so he can say anything and let the house and senate nix the whole thing in "opposition" to Barack.
Altogether a tempest in a teapot.
Comment by capt on 08/04/2008 13:40:54
capt on 08/04/2008 13:40:54
Shane-O
*throws a kiss*
I might get things thrown at me
*throws a kiss*
Comment by 
starling310 on 08/04/2008 13:46:36
starling310 on 08/04/2008 13:46:36
Morning kids. 
Happy Birthday Barack!
My home computer still has not recovered. :cry:
If it's not the car needing $1300 worth of work, it's the computer breaking.
I had passed up going to NYC yesterday with my lady friend becase I didn't have the cash and I was okay with that. Then the friggin' computer breaks!
: recites obligatory : "I'm lucky to have a job and a roof over my head and my health. . . "
Shane-O, Mala, Roomie....
I agree.
And, actually Sanchez just hit it on the head. Americans are addicted to oil and by telling them you just "want to give them more" people will just glaze over and say "ok. fine with me. why does obama hate america?"
Happy Birthday Barack!
My home computer still has not recovered. :cry:
If it's not the car needing $1300 worth of work, it's the computer breaking.
I had passed up going to NYC yesterday with my lady friend becase I didn't have the cash and I was okay with that. Then the friggin' computer breaks!
: recites obligatory : "I'm lucky to have a job and a roof over my head and my health. . . "
Shane-O, Mala, Roomie....
I agree.
And, actually Sanchez just hit it on the head. Americans are addicted to oil and by telling them you just "want to give them more" people will just glaze over and say "ok. fine with me. why does obama hate america?"
Comment by 
Random on 08/04/2008 13:48:45
Random on 08/04/2008 13:48:45
*stumbles in drunk from previous night*
I Have Returned
I Have Returned
Comment by liam1965 on 08/04/2008 13:51:34
The two issues have been set on fire by the Republicans?
liam1965 on 08/04/2008 13:51:34
Quote by capt:
The two issues have been conflagrated by the republicans and the oil companies but the two things are nearly juxaposed at this point.
The two issues have been set on fire by the Republicans?
Comment by starling310 on 08/04/2008 13:52:31
starling310 on 08/04/2008 13:52:31
Well, yeah....wouldn't it be great if we drove smaller cars and motor scooters and had a really great public transport system.
Comment by Shane-O on 08/04/2008 13:52:39
Shane-O on 08/04/2008 13:52:39
On Obama's comments re: the "funny name" and the dollar bill...
Yes, he was likely responding to the McCain ad with Obama on the $100 bill.
The "Funny name" comment... Dont forget these oldies, but goodies from "them" or the "They" Sen. Obama was referring to (e.g. Coulter and Bill Cunningham)...
Yes, he was likely responding to the McCain ad with Obama on the $100 bill.
The "Funny name" comment... Dont forget these oldies, but goodies from "them" or the "They" Sen. Obama was referring to (e.g. Coulter and Bill Cunningham)...
Comment by capt on 08/04/2008 13:52:41
capt on 08/04/2008 13:52:41
New Obama ad: (via Kos)
I like it! Video HERE
Anncr VO: Every time you fill your tank, the oil companies fill their pockets.
Now Big Oil’s filling John McCain’s campaign with 2 million dollars in contributions.
Because instead of taxing their windfall profits to help drivers, McCain wants to give them another 4 billion in tax breaks.
After one president in the pocket of big oil... We can’t afford another.
Barack Obama... A windfall profits tax on big oil to give families a thousand dollar rebate.
A president who’ll stand up for you.
Barack VO: I’m Barack Obama and I approve this message
I like it! Video HERE
Comment by Shane-O on 08/04/2008 13:58:36
Shane-O on 08/04/2008 13:58:36
McCain blames Iraq for Anthrax attacks... Now THAT'S GREAT JUDGMENT!
Comment by liam1965 on 08/04/2008 14:00:44
liam1965 on 08/04/2008 14:00:44
Random: Donnie is over on SMS LB again. And he's being a moron, quite in need of a good smote
Comment by TriSec on 08/04/2008 14:00:51
TriSec on 08/04/2008 14:00:51
erm, is it just me or does it sound like Randi is calling it "Sexual Dental Care"?
(commercial on Nova M stream)
(commercial on Nova M stream)
Comment by Raine on 08/04/2008 14:00:56
Raine on 08/04/2008 14:00:56
Comment by capt on 08/04/2008 14:01:30
capt on 08/04/2008 14:01:30
It is also Helen Thomas' birthday today.
(or so I hear)
(or so I hear)
Comment by Random on 08/04/2008 14:02:05
...*rushes over*
Random on 08/04/2008 14:02:05
Quote by liam1965:
Random: Donnie is over on SMS LB again. And he's being a moron, quite in need of a good smote
...*rushes over*
Comment by TriSec on 08/04/2008 14:02:23
Roads, planes, and trucks get all the$$, while Amtrak has to fight for the crumbs.
Hell, maybe that's an argument for privatization right there. Passenger Rail is a Federal racket, if it was private, they'd hire lobbyists and become a special interest, then the money would start flowing!
TriSec on 08/04/2008 14:02:23
Quote by starling310:
Well, yeah....wouldn't it be great if we drove smaller cars and motor scooters and had a really great public transport system.
Roads, planes, and trucks get all the$$, while Amtrak has to fight for the crumbs.
Hell, maybe that's an argument for privatization right there. Passenger Rail is a Federal racket, if it was private, they'd hire lobbyists and become a special interest, then the money would start flowing!
Comment by capt on 08/04/2008 14:03:35
Whoa - not "my" picture - just the picture that went with the article at the link.
I apologize sincerely as I lacked sensitivity to workplace issues.
My bad . . .
I was going to joke about the gecko - but couldn't get there . . . . I do like the "fix"
capt on 08/04/2008 14:03:35
Quote by Raine:
I fixed Capt Picture... STILL not really work safe... Maybe even less so...
Whoa - not "my" picture - just the picture that went with the article at the link.
I apologize sincerely as I lacked sensitivity to workplace issues.
My bad . . .
I was going to joke about the gecko - but couldn't get there . . . . I do like the "fix"
Comment by Raine on 08/04/2008 14:06:48
I may be practicing reviosionist history here as well, but I believe we had a president named Jimmy carter that actually cared.
Raine on 08/04/2008 14:06:48
Quote by liam1965:
Am I just too revisionist-idealistic? Was there ever a time when the people running this country actually CARED about this country, instead of caring about what lies they could make the electorate believe, so as to increase their own power?
Comment by starling310 on 08/04/2008 14:07:15
OH REALLY!
starling310 on 08/04/2008 14:07:15
Quote by capt:
It is also Helen Thomas' birthday today.
(or so I hear)
OH REALLY!
Comment by Raine on 08/04/2008 14:08:45
My bad... the picture from the link that capt posted...
:hug:
Raine on 08/04/2008 14:08:45
Quote by capt:Quote by Raine:
I fixed Capt Picture... STILL not really work safe... Maybe even less so...
Whoa - not "my" picture - just the picture that went with the article at the link.
I apologize sincerely as I lacked sensitivity to workplace issues.
My bad . . .
I was going to joke about the gecko - but couldn't get there . . . . I do like the "fix"
My bad... the picture from the link that capt posted...
:hug:
Comment by Raine on 08/04/2008 14:09:54
Happy Birthday Ms. Thomas!
Raine on 08/04/2008 14:09:54
Quote by starling310:Quote by capt:
It is also Helen Thomas' birthday today.
(or so I hear)
OH REALLY!
Happy Birthday Ms. Thomas!
Comment by 
livingonli on 08/04/2008 14:12:25
livingonli on 08/04/2008 14:12:25
A belated good morning all. 
My one day off since my vacation although I do have the next two weekends off. I may go see The Dark Knight today. (finally)
My one day off since my vacation although I do have the next two weekends off. I may go see The Dark Knight today. (finally)
Comment by livingonli on 08/04/2008 14:18:11
My mind's eye!
livingonli on 08/04/2008 14:18:11
Quote by Raine:
I fixed Capt Picture... STILL not really work safe... Maybe even less so...
My mind's eye!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/04/2008 14:18:30
wickedpam on 08/04/2008 14:18:30
Hey - for anyone in the PA area! We made a trip to Grantville this weekend to go to Penn National and the Hollywood Casino. It's the weirdest thing I've seen in a while - a casino (slots, video black jack and poker only) and horse track right behind a corn field.
Anyway, we travelled most of the way on RT15. THere is a little place around the Taneytown Road exit in Getteysburg that sells fruits and veggies from a collective of 27 small farms in the area. I had the best peach I think I have ever had in my life! The place is run by a potter and his wife from an old house. They also sell their pots, handmade soaps (I bought honeysuckle & rose, chocolate mint, one other one) and jams & jellies (I got the chocolate raspberry it was so yummy!)
If your driving around that area I highly recommend stopping in!
They also have a website but they don't everything threw it
The Lion Potter
Anyway, we travelled most of the way on RT15. THere is a little place around the Taneytown Road exit in Getteysburg that sells fruits and veggies from a collective of 27 small farms in the area. I had the best peach I think I have ever had in my life! The place is run by a potter and his wife from an old house. They also sell their pots, handmade soaps (I bought honeysuckle & rose, chocolate mint, one other one) and jams & jellies (I got the chocolate raspberry it was so yummy!)
If your driving around that area I highly recommend stopping in!
They also have a website but they don't everything threw it
The Lion Potter