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Ask A Vet
Author: TriSec
Date: 08/12/2008 11:02:13
Good Morning.
Today is our 1,973rd day in Iraq.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures in the warron terra, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4139
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4000
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3678
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3280
Since Election (1/31/05): 2702
Other Coalition Troops: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 572
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 344
Contractor Deaths: 444
We find this morning's Cost of War passing through: $544,703,950,000.00
This week, I have run across an open letter from Iraq Veterans Against the War to Senator Obama. They'd like to meet with him in Denver during the week of the convention and have many issues addressed. There's no word from the Obama camp if he'll accept the meeting, but it's worth reading.
Additional documentation and information at the link...
I do find it curious, however, that there is not a similar invitation to Senator McCain. He shouldn't be getting a free pass just because he served in uniform; as a career politician, he's got much to answer for and should be held to the same scrutiny as Senator Obama...
Moving on, I've found this website. OK, I *know* it's a 527 and probably just as sleazy as those swift-boat guys. (Turnabout is fair play, eh?) Last week in this space, we had two blogs questioning McCain's 'fitness' to be commander-in-chief. I've found something even more compelling. It is a rather lengthy article and difficult to condense for the blog, but you won't regret taking the few minutes to read it all.
Interesting, hmm?
Today is our 1,973rd day in Iraq.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures in the warron terra, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4139
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4000
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3678
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3280
Since Election (1/31/05): 2702
Other Coalition Troops: 314
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 572
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 344
Contractor Deaths: 444
We find this morning's Cost of War passing through: $544,703,950,000.00
This week, I have run across an open letter from Iraq Veterans Against the War to Senator Obama. They'd like to meet with him in Denver during the week of the convention and have many issues addressed. There's no word from the Obama camp if he'll accept the meeting, but it's worth reading.
Dear Senator Obama,
Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) was founded by Iraq war veterans in July 2004 at the annual convention of Veterans for Peace (VFP) in Boston to give a voice to the large number of active duty service people and veterans who are against this war, but are under various pressures to remain silent.
From its inception, IVAW has called for:
* Immediate withdrawal of all occupying forces in Iraq;
* Reparations for the human and structural damages Iraq has suffered, and stopping the corporate pillaging of Iraq so that their people can control their own lives and future; and
* Full benefits, adequate healthcare (including mental health), and other supports for returning servicemen and women.
Today, IVAW members are in 48 states and on numerous bases overseas, with chapters throughout the U.S. and in Canada and Germany.
On behalf of Iraq Veterans Against the War I would like to invite you to meet with a delegation of our members at Our Savior's Lutheran Church, located at 915 East 9th Avenue Denver, CO between August 25-27, at a time most convenient to you. We would like to discuss your position on withdrawal from Iraq as well as your commitment to veterans care and reparations to the Iraqi people. We would also like to present to you our Winter Soldier testimony, which illustrates the moral necessity of bringing an immediate end to the occupation of Iraq. Please RSVP at your earliest convenience regarding this matter, stating whether or not you or members of your staff will attend or proposing an alternative location for the meeting.
In addition, we would like you to review the following background information and provide your official response to the questions below prior to or on the date of August 27, 2008.
US-headquartered multinational corporations (MNCs) are currently awaiting passage of a law governing foreign direct investment (FDI) in Iraq's energy sector. They have indicated that they will not substantially invest in reconstruction of the country's oil infrastructure until the Iraqi government passes a law which will allow them to negotiate long-term investment contracts called "Production Sharing Agreements" (PSAs) in the parlance of the oil industry.
PSAs have been compared to the colonial concessions which European imperial powers imposed upon Middle Eastern nations in the 20th century, including Iraq and Iran. Numerous historians have pointed out that these concessions humiliated the Arab-Muslim world for decades and provoked internal political instability, the rise of militant nationalism and most recently, religious radicalism directed primarily against the United States.
We are concerned that the Bush administration, despite its denials, is exerting political pressure on the Iraqi government to pass a law which will open the door to these types of contracts once again. We believe that this sort of alleged pressure directly contradicts the ostensible mission of the United States military in Iraq and hinders political progress and stability there. Without a doubt, the prospect of perpetual instability will tempt future administrations to justify a prolonged occupation or continued interference in Iraq's internal political affairs.
Our troops have fought hard. They do not deserve to have their efforts undermined by this or any other administration. The Iraqi people demand independence and we have no right to deny it to them. In doing so we contradict the principles our own nation was founded on and act against our own national security interests. For these reasons we are determined to oppose such policies, official or otherwise.
For more information please see the accompanying documents.
Our questions are:
* What is your position on long term FDI in Iraq's oil industry by US-headquartered MNCs?
* What is your position on the role of the United States government in negotiating a so-called hydrocarbon law with the Iraqi government which would govern FDI there?
* What is your position on Production Sharing Agreements and similar sorts of contracts?
* What is your position on debt relief to the Iraqi government? Should it be contingent upon passage of the above-mentioned hydrocarbon law?
* What is your position on the so-called Strategic Framework Agreement, which is rumored to contain language on FDI? Should it be ratified by the U.S. Senate, whether or not it is actually called a "treaty"?
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Additional documentation and information at the link...
I do find it curious, however, that there is not a similar invitation to Senator McCain. He shouldn't be getting a free pass just because he served in uniform; as a career politician, he's got much to answer for and should be held to the same scrutiny as Senator Obama...
Moving on, I've found this website. OK, I *know* it's a 527 and probably just as sleazy as those swift-boat guys. (Turnabout is fair play, eh?) Last week in this space, we had two blogs questioning McCain's 'fitness' to be commander-in-chief. I've found something even more compelling. It is a rather lengthy article and difficult to condense for the blog, but you won't regret taking the few minutes to read it all.
McCain, the presumptive Republican candidate for President, who could one day have his finger on the "red button," claims the communists subjected him to 5 ½ years of nonstop indoctrination sessions so intense that he attempted suicide.
Unfortunately for McCain, after his bomber was hit by anti-aircraft fire near Hanoi on October 26, 1967, he parachuted into the hands of an evil communist enemy who 7 years earlier had adopted Soviet methods of prisoner interrogation.
At that time, the Soviets were perfecting techniques designed "to put a man's mind into a fog so that he will mistake what is true for what is untrue, what is right for what is wrong, and come to believe what did not happen actually had happened."
Psychiatric Journals are flush with reports concluding that former POWs may remain entangled in "harsh psychological battles" with themselves for decades after returning home including difficulty in controlling intense emotions such as anger and stress.
In political circles, McCain, sometimes referred to as "insane McCain," is well known for having a "volcanic" temper which his colleagues say often erupts into vulgar language and personal insults.
Democrat Paul Johnson, the former mayor of Phoenix, experienced McCain's in your face temperament up close. "His volatility borders in the area of being unstable," Johnson said. "Before I let this guy put his finger on the button, I would have to give considerable pause."
The Journal of America Medicine reported in an 1996 article that being a former POW is associated with "increased cumulative incidence rates of chronic disorders of the peripheral nervous system, joints, and back and an increased hazard rate of peptic ulcer."
The 71 year-old McCain most certainly suffers pain and the weakening effects of chronic arthritis. He broke both arms when he was forced to eject after his bomber was hit. He says the Vietnamese periodically re-fractured his bones during years of interrogation and torture which rendered him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head.
McCain has never been publicly vetted about what and how much medications he is taking. Aside from his anger and arthritic pain issues, McCain has had reoccurring bouts of malignant melanoma, a deadly form of cancer that can spread quickly throughout the body.
These facts alone beg the question on how a President McCain, in the absence of his campaign staff handlers, would deal with a snap decision that had to be made "if the White House phone rang at 3 a.m."
McCain's POW experience is unique. His communist captors considered him the "crown prince" of U.S. POWs because his father, Adm. John McCain, was commander of all U.S. forces fighting in Vietnam. Because the communists believed he was from a "royal family" and would when finally released return to the United States to an important military or government job, they held him for two years in "solitary confinement."
Interesting, hmm?
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Comment by 
BobR on 08/12/2008 11:31:06
BobR on 08/12/2008 11:31:06
I hope Obama meets with IVAW. I think asking him to do so during the convention is optimistic; I imagine he is already booked solid.
McInsane - 'nuff said.
Getting things together here at casa de BRaine for the big flight (AirTran 582 for you AvStalkers
)
McInsane - 'nuff said.
Getting things together here at casa de BRaine for the big flight (AirTran 582 for you AvStalkers
)
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 11:40:24
trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 11:40:24
Good miserable wet morning all! What else to expect here in the soggy northeast? 
. I'm as confused this morning as my cats are as I came home to find a rearranged living room. All they did last night was sniff around with a vacant expression on their faces. 
:wacko:
Great post TriSec, it's too bad we can't present a bill to ExxonMobil and the other multinational leeches for our services rendered to secure a source of oil for them to pillage. A bill for maybe $545B?
If McCain was elected he'd be a perfect symbol for the end of this country; an old, deranged man suffering from the effects of previous wars, whose extravagant lifestyle depends upon a far richer entity for $upport, ready to lash out in one final defiant act to prove he's still relevant.
. I'm as confused this morning as my cats are as I came home to find a rearranged living room. All they did last night was sniff around with a vacant expression on their faces. :wacko:Great post TriSec, it's too bad we can't present a bill to ExxonMobil and the other multinational leeches for our services rendered to secure a source of oil for them to pillage. A bill for maybe $545B?
If McCain was elected he'd be a perfect symbol for the end of this country; an old, deranged man suffering from the effects of previous wars, whose extravagant lifestyle depends upon a far richer entity for $upport, ready to lash out in one final defiant act to prove he's still relevant.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 12:07:08
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 12:07:08
Morning 
Comment by 
clintster on 08/12/2008 12:16:59
clintster on 08/12/2008 12:16:59
Quick pop-in to say "good morning", and to let y'alls know that I am feeling much better. My voice hasn't returned to full strength, but my kids have been understanding and have kept the class noise to a dull roar. My congestion is all but gone, and my moms is visiting us, to make sure we have some healthy meals for the next few days. :D
Faye, I'm thinking of you as you go through your medical issues this week. Chin up, and remember you have a lot of 4Fers pulling for you.
Bobber and Raine, have a safe and fun trip to the Empire State. I've got the blog nailed down on Thursdee, so no worries there. Hopefully, after you guys get back, we can have a meet-up at Casa Clintster.
Back to the planning period. Have a good 'un!
Faye, I'm thinking of you as you go through your medical issues this week. Chin up, and remember you have a lot of 4Fers pulling for you.
Bobber and Raine, have a safe and fun trip to the Empire State. I've got the blog nailed down on Thursdee, so no worries there. Hopefully, after you guys get back, we can have a meet-up at Casa Clintster.
Back to the planning period. Have a good 'un!
Comment by 
Random on 08/12/2008 12:18:48
Random on 08/12/2008 12:18:48
Mornin' Ya'll
Comment by 
TriSec on 08/12/2008 12:39:00
Departing KATL.....(not yet!)
TriSec on 08/12/2008 12:39:00
Comment by 
Scoopster on 08/12/2008 12:59:40
Scoopster on 08/12/2008 12:59:40
Morning all! 
Another day in paradise lies ahead..
Another day in paradise lies ahead..
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 13:02:55
TriSec on 08/12/2008 13:02:55
Why Scoop, did Rhode Island finally get that weather dome over Providence working?
It's simply ass-tacular here again today!
It's simply ass-tacular here again today!
Comment by Scoopster on 08/12/2008 13:06:50
Scoopster on 08/12/2008 13:06:50
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 13:08:08
trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 13:08:08
At least it wasn't raining - until I got close to work. Now it's just drizzle drizzle drizzle.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:08:18
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:08:18
I loved Beakman's World!
Comment by Scoopster on 08/12/2008 13:09:28
Scoopster on 08/12/2008 13:09:28
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 13:09:56
Remember, to a neocon God gave us (white Christian people) the right to pillage the planet to our heart's content. So what if some other animals die? So what if some brown people die?
trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 13:09:56
Remember, to a neocon God gave us (white Christian people) the right to pillage the planet to our heart's content. So what if some other animals die? So what if some brown people die?
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 08/12/2008 13:11:45
velveeta jones on 08/12/2008 13:11:45
Yes, McCain should most definately get the same letter!
Morning all! Fairly cold here today. Woke up to the 40's - now in the mid 50's. But it'll end up in the low 80's by this afternoon. Pretty day here.
Hey! Didya hear that the Chinese Politburo had the little girl who sang at the opening ceremonies........... switched? Unbelievable! (Oh, they also admit to digitizing the fireworks.) Assholes.
wow!
Morning all! Fairly cold here today. Woke up to the 40's - now in the mid 50's. But it'll end up in the low 80's by this afternoon. Pretty day here.
Hey! Didya hear that the Chinese Politburo had the little girl who sang at the opening ceremonies........... switched?
Unbelievable! (Oh, they also admit to digitizing the fireworks.) Assholes.wow!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:13:17
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:13:17
Good one DJ :p
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/12/2008 13:17:48
velveeta jones on 08/12/2008 13:17:48
Bye Bunny............ missing you already. *sniff*
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:19:01
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:19:01
The next stop for the Obama family vacation if it were up to the repubs
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 13:19:31
trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 13:19:31
Velveeta, why should the Olympics be immune to lip-synching? Sounds perfectly American to me. Those Chinese are learning fast.
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 13:19:49
TriSec on 08/12/2008 13:19:49
Doesn't this whole Obama/Hawaii bit have a familiar ring to it?
Like when a certain senator from a certain Northeastern state dared to vacation on an island in the state he represents?
Of course, never mind that Mr. Obama was visiting his aged grandmother at the time...
Where does McCain's mother live? (The Hall of Dinosaurs at the Smithsonian is not a valid answer.)
Like when a certain senator from a certain Northeastern state dared to vacation on an island in the state he represents?
Of course, never mind that Mr. Obama was visiting his aged grandmother at the time...
Where does McCain's mother live? (The Hall of Dinosaurs at the Smithsonian is not a valid answer.)
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:19:50
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:19:50
Safe travels BRaine :hug:
:hug:
Comment by Scoopster on 08/12/2008 13:22:00
According to my local newscasts, she's currently living AND throwing fundraisers at the Newport Mansions for the Jurassic Money Club.
Scoopster on 08/12/2008 13:22:00
Quote by TriSec:
Doesn't this whole Obama/Hawaii bit have a familiar ring to it?
Like when a certain senator from a certain Northeastern state dared to vacation on an island in the state he represents?
Of course, never mind that Mr. Obama was visiting his aged grandmother at the time...
Where does McCain's mother live? (The Hall of Dinosaurs at the Smithsonian is not a valid answer.)
According to my local newscasts, she's currently living AND throwing fundraisers at the Newport Mansions for the Jurassic Money Club.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 13:22:49
trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 13:22:49
Have a great flight BRaine!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:27:20
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:27:20
Go Steph's Mom :clap:
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/12/2008 13:34:13
Yes, but usually the "actual" artist is lip syncing. In this case they replaced the ugly girl with the good voice, with cute girl that can't sing.
<_<
velveeta jones on 08/12/2008 13:34:13
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Velveeta, why should the Olympics be immune to lip-synching? Sounds perfectly American to me. Those Chinese are learning fast.
Yes, but usually the "actual" artist is lip syncing. In this case they replaced the ugly girl with the good voice, with cute girl that can't sing.
<_<
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 13:51:19
TriSec on 08/12/2008 13:51:19
*snort*
Never mind Cokie; the first person to tell my where actress Swoosie Kurtz got her name will receive coveted blog bonus points...
Never mind Cokie; the first person to tell my where actress Swoosie Kurtz got her name will receive coveted blog bonus points...
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:54:33
I think is had something to do with her dad being a pilot and her being named afer a plane or something like that.
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:54:33
Quote by TriSec:
*snort*
Never mind Cokie; the first person to tell my where actress Swoosie Kurtz got her name will receive coveted blog bonus points...
I think is had something to do with her dad being a pilot and her being named afer a plane or something like that.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:56:54
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 13:56:54
DCRTV Rant that made me chuckle a little -
Rant - 8/12 - When WJFK-FM canned Fox News talker Bill O'Reilly's radio show last year, station owner CBS got one - you heard right - one single e-mail of protest. That's what I'm told, anyway. Now, it looks like Bill's lost his post-JFK DC radio home, with yesterday's announcement of the demise of Bonneville talker 3WT. Obviously, low (no) ratings are the culprit. So, where will Bill end up next on the DC radio dial? Maybe one of Dan Snyder's weakish AM talkers, WTNT or WWRC? Hey, Bill, yeah, you get great ratings on TV cable "news," but nobody's listening to your radio show down here in the DC area. Noooobody. A little good news for the Keith Olbermann crowd. More Rants.....
Rant - 8/12 - When WJFK-FM canned Fox News talker Bill O'Reilly's radio show last year, station owner CBS got one - you heard right - one single e-mail of protest. That's what I'm told, anyway. Now, it looks like Bill's lost his post-JFK DC radio home, with yesterday's announcement of the demise of Bonneville talker 3WT. Obviously, low (no) ratings are the culprit. So, where will Bill end up next on the DC radio dial? Maybe one of Dan Snyder's weakish AM talkers, WTNT or WWRC? Hey, Bill, yeah, you get great ratings on TV cable "news," but nobody's listening to your radio show down here in the DC area. Noooobody. A little good news for the Keith Olbermann crowd. More Rants.....
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 14:00:38
TriSec on 08/12/2008 14:00:38
TRS582 isn't on the board yet, but they have filed a flight plan...
12-Aug-2008 1:50 PM
B712
ATL HARTSFIELD - JACKSON ATLANTA INTL
EWR NEWARK LIBERTY INTL
10:47 AM EDT (1447Z) 12:33 PM EDT (1633Z)
FILED
12-Aug-2008 1:50 PM
B712
ATL HARTSFIELD - JACKSON ATLANTA INTL
EWR NEWARK LIBERTY INTL
10:47 AM EDT (1447Z) 12:33 PM EDT (1633Z)
FILED
Comment by 
livingonli on 08/12/2008 14:06:30
livingonli on 08/12/2008 14:06:30
Good morning everyone. 
Another day when I can't seem to shake this funk that I am in.
Have a good flight, Raine.
Another day when I can't seem to shake this funk that I am in.
Have a good flight, Raine.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 14:11:47
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 14:11:47
OKay Liv - get up and have some breakfast first of all. Secondly do something that is constuctive for you - maybe that'll make you feel better.
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 14:19:11
TriSec on 08/12/2008 14:19:11
Ya know, screw the polar bears; I'm trading in my Subee on a Hummer so we can get a frickin' summer around here!
Global Warming, my ass!
<-- half-hearted at best. I want to sit by the beach, dammit!
Mug of tea, check.
Fleece jacket, check.
Space Heater, check.
Calendar....AUGUST.
:kickcan:
Global Warming, my ass!
<-- half-hearted at best. I want to sit by the beach, dammit!Mug of tea, check.
Fleece jacket, check.
Space Heater, check.
Calendar....AUGUST.
:kickcan:
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 14:25:34
livingonli on 08/12/2008 14:25:34
It's supposed to reach the low 80's here on Long Island.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 14:29:32
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 14:29:32
mid to upper 80's here. it is a breif respite before another wave of summer hummidity
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 14:33:41
livingonli on 08/12/2008 14:33:41
Other than the few days I was in Vegas, I haven't been able to enjoy this summer.
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 14:39:19
TriSec on 08/12/2008 14:39:19
My. Name. Is. John. McCain. And. I. Was. Carved. From. A. Piece. Of. Wood.
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 14:40:01
TriSec on 08/12/2008 14:40:01
All the "Stans", eh?
How about.....
Hi, Stan!
:peace:
How about.....
Hi, Stan!:peace:
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 14:41:32
I guess his dream is to become a real boy.
livingonli on 08/12/2008 14:41:32
Quote by TriSec:
My. Name. Is. John. McCain. And. I. Was. Carved. From. A. Piece. Of. Wood.
I guess his dream is to become a real boy.
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 14:50:19
TriSec on 08/12/2008 14:50:19
Well, something weird is going on now.
The AirTran website has the flight already departed...
Flyte Time has them on the ground still, and FBOWeb has yesterday's information still up.
If they're in the air, I hope that flight is headed North instead of towards a little island 90 miles south of Key West....
The AirTran website has the flight already departed...
Flyte Time has them on the ground still, and FBOWeb has yesterday's information still up.
If they're in the air, I hope that flight is headed North instead of towards a little island 90 miles south of Key West....
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 14:51:00
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 14:51:00
dude maybe you should change your field then
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 14:55:49
TriSec on 08/12/2008 14:55:49
OK, everything is updated now.
They're away; flight apparently departed on-time, and is passing through 10000 feet at 300 knots...
They're away; flight apparently departed on-time, and is passing through 10000 feet at 300 knots...
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 15:00:17
livingonli on 08/12/2008 15:00:17
Yeah for Raine. I wonder if she took her laptop with her?
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 15:18:05
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 15:18:05
That was more then slightly disturbing 
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 15:19:21
livingonli on 08/12/2008 15:19:21
It's quiet here without Raine on the blog.
Comment by Scoopster on 08/12/2008 15:30:06
Scoopster on 08/12/2008 15:30:06
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 15:39:09
TriSec on 08/12/2008 15:39:09
Our wayward bloggers have just crossed the line into Virginia, currently at FL37 and 476 KIAS....they're moving pretty quick today.
That's .82 Mach for the av-dorks, and 547 mph for an automotive reference...
Not bad for a dinky little Boeing 717 with Pratt & Whitneys, btw
That's .82 Mach for the av-dorks, and 547 mph for an automotive reference...
Not bad for a dinky little Boeing 717 with Pratt & Whitneys, btw
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 15:40:35
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 15:40:35
let me know when they get close to DC and I'll wave out the window :D
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 15:42:55
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 15:42:55
Billy Bush - actual cousin to the rez and was once a DJ in DC
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 15:52:59
TriSec on 08/12/2008 15:52:59
huh? They're talking about Billy Bush and I missed it?
Billy is Jonathan's brother, aka "the Bush that signs my paycheck".
Billy is Jonathan's brother, aka "the Bush that signs my paycheck".
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 15:53:57
TriSec on 08/12/2008 15:53:57
Flight's not going close to you, WP. I have them over Bowling Green right now, about to cross the Potomac south of La Plata.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 15:55:49
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 15:55:49
darn they'll miss me waving
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 16:09:07
livingonli on 08/12/2008 16:09:07
Catching up on the Momma I missed from yesterday.
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/12/2008 16:10:10
I mooned her! 'Course they might not have seen me from here. But the people up on the hill probably did!
velveeta jones on 08/12/2008 16:10:10
Quote by wickedpam:
darn they'll miss me waving
I mooned her! 'Course they might not have seen me from here. But the people up on the hill probably did!
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 16:14:51
TriSec on 08/12/2008 16:14:51
Just passed Phila....down to 10,000 feet and 289 kts. they should be on the ground in less than 15 minutes.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 16:16:45
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 16:16:45
That was a fast flight
Comment by BobR on 08/12/2008 16:26:11
BobR on 08/12/2008 16:26:11
I just got a text message from Raine - the Eagle has landed.
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 16:35:13
livingonli on 08/12/2008 16:35:13
Yay!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 16:50:19
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 16:50:19
woohooo!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 16:50:41
I thought you were going too?
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 16:50:41
Quote by BobR:
I just got a text message from Raine - the Eagle has landed.
I thought you were going too?
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 16:55:28
TriSec on 08/12/2008 16:55:28
It's only 746 miles on the great circle from ATL-EWR...on the high-altitude air routes it might have stretched to 800 miles.
Either way, that's little more than a 2-hour flight.
Either way, that's little more than a 2-hour flight.
Comment by BobR on 08/12/2008 17:18:40
No, we decided we couldn't afford tickets for both of us.
Especially since we're taking a real vacation the first week of Sept.
BobR on 08/12/2008 17:18:40
Quote by wickedpam:
I thought you were going too?
No, we decided we couldn't afford tickets for both of us.
Especially since we're taking a real vacation the first week of Sept.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 17:28:22
I understand. outside of a day here and there I still haven't taken a "vacation"
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 17:28:22
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
I thought you were going too?
No, we decided we couldn't afford tickets for both of us.
Especially since we're taking a real vacation the first week of Sept.
I understand. outside of a day here and there I still haven't taken a "vacation"
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 17:32:55
Random on 08/12/2008 17:32:55
random is enjoying St. Augustine from his rainy Window in the hotel room.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 17:41:00
how was the ghost tour?
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 17:41:00
Quote by Random:
random is enjoying St. Augustine from his rainy Window in the hotel room.
how was the ghost tour?
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 17:41:36
Random on 08/12/2008 17:41:36
This is Real...
Notice what's missing...Go on...guess.
Notice what's missing...Go on...guess.
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 17:42:58
Oh? they were booked last night, the tour is tonight.
Random on 08/12/2008 17:42:58
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
random is enjoying St. Augustine from his rainy Window in the hotel room.
how was the ghost tour?
Oh? they were booked last night, the tour is tonight.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 17:54:59
Is the St. Augustine Lighthouse on the tour? If not ya'll should check it out and see if they do a night tour. Ghost Hunters did a case/show there and if it's to be believed they caught some cool stuff on video
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 17:54:59
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
random is enjoying St. Augustine from his rainy Window in the hotel room.
how was the ghost tour?
Oh? they were booked last night, the tour is tonight.
Is the St. Augustine Lighthouse on the tour? If not ya'll should check it out and see if they do a night tour. Ghost Hunters did a case/show there and if it's to be believed they caught some cool stuff on video
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 17:55:22
trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 17:55:22
Ben Rich - Truth and Integrity?????
I know what's missing! I know what's missing!
I know what's missing! I know what's missing!
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 17:58:24
Nah, the lighthouse is a good 3 - 4 miles away.
On the tour we do the cemetary, old school building and the fort.
Random on 08/12/2008 17:58:24
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
random is enjoying St. Augustine from his rainy Window in the hotel room.
how was the ghost tour?
Oh? they were booked last night, the tour is tonight.
Is the St. Augustine Lighthouse on the tour? If not ya'll should check it out and see if they do a night tour. Ghost Hunters did a case/show there and if it's to be believed they caught some cool stuff on video
Nah, the lighthouse is a good 3 - 4 miles away.
On the tour we do the cemetary, old school building and the fort.
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 17:59:14
In refering to my pic? again, real pic here in St. Augustine.
Please, let others figure it out.
Random on 08/12/2008 17:59:14
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Ben Rich - Truth and Integrity?????
I know what's missing! I know what's missing!
In refering to my pic? again, real pic here in St. Augustine.
Please, let others figure it out.
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 18:02:10
Random on 08/12/2008 18:02:10
Who's Ben Rich?
(I didn't relieze that was on that sign...thought you were listening to one of those fancy radio shows)
(I didn't relieze that was on that sign...thought you were listening to one of those fancy radio shows)
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 18:05:17
Random on 08/12/2008 18:05:17
Ohhh, and here, Random having some fun...
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 18:05:22
Random on 08/12/2008 18:05:22
Ohhh, and here, Random having some fun...
And double posting.
And double posting.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 18:14:51
Just thowin' it out there for ya.
:D
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 18:14:51
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
random is enjoying St. Augustine from his rainy Window in the hotel room.
how was the ghost tour?
Oh? they were booked last night, the tour is tonight.
Is the St. Augustine Lighthouse on the tour? If not ya'll should check it out and see if they do a night tour. Ghost Hunters did a case/show there and if it's to be believed they caught some cool stuff on video
Nah, the lighthouse is a good 3 - 4 miles away.
On the tour we do the cemetary, old school building and the fort.
Just thowin' it out there for ya.
:D
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 18:17:42
Well, i drove by before. And it's not the light house where the chair moved so...
Random on 08/12/2008 18:17:42
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
random is enjoying St. Augustine from his rainy Window in the hotel room.
how was the ghost tour?
Oh? they were booked last night, the tour is tonight.
Is the St. Augustine Lighthouse on the tour? If not ya'll should check it out and see if they do a night tour. Ghost Hunters did a case/show there and if it's to be believed they caught some cool stuff on video
Nah, the lighthouse is a good 3 - 4 miles away.
On the tour we do the cemetary, old school building and the fort.
Just thowin' it out there for ya.
:D
Well, i drove by before. And it's not the light house where the chair moved so...
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 18:18:57
trojanrabbit on 08/12/2008 18:18:57
Yes Random, in (or not in) the picture.
That's why I didn't say anything to give all a chance to guess.
That's why I didn't say anything to give all a chance to guess.
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 18:22:37
Oh...>< Random gets confused...easily.
I find it hilarious. Which is why i posted it.
Random on 08/12/2008 18:22:37
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Yes Random, in (or not in) the picture.
That's why I didn't say anything to give all a chance to guess.
Oh...>< Random gets confused...easily.
I find it hilarious. Which is why i posted it.
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 18:29:37
Random on 08/12/2008 18:29:37
Random signing off for a moment. All have fun.
Comment by BobR on 08/12/2008 18:35:29
BobR on 08/12/2008 18:35:29
Am I supposed to say "No McCain signs"?
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 18:43:05
Well...If you want to ruin the fun for everyone...then yes.
If you don't, you laugh and shake your head.
Random on 08/12/2008 18:43:05
Quote by BobR:
Am I supposed to say "No McCain signs"?
Well...If you want to ruin the fun for everyone...then yes.
If you don't, you laugh and shake your head.
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 18:45:09
livingonli on 08/12/2008 18:45:09
Have fun exploring St. Augustine Random.
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 18:46:23
It's raining...HARD...no going outside.
Random on 08/12/2008 18:46:23
Quote by livingonli:
Have fun exploring St. Augustine Random.
It's raining...HARD...no going outside.
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 18:53:18
Or how about the Obama sign?
Rain on vacation sucks. I've had those.
livingonli on 08/12/2008 18:53:18
Quote by BobR:
Am I supposed to say "No McCain signs"?
Or how about the Obama sign?
Rain on vacation sucks. I've had those.
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 18:56:01
Well, that's the second pic, Random messin round (You can see the rain in the Obama pic.
Random on 08/12/2008 18:56:01
Quote by livingonli:Quote by BobR:
Am I supposed to say "No McCain signs"?
Or how about the Obama sign?
Rain on vacation sucks. I've had those.
Well, that's the second pic, Random messin round (You can see the rain in the Obama pic.
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 18:57:19
TriSec on 08/12/2008 18:57:19
*snort*
Worst week at Scout Camp evah.....
Sometime in the early 80s now, I forget which year.
We pulled into camp Sunday afternoon. By Sunday evening it had clouded over, and it started raining during the welcome campfire.
Rained all day Monday.
Rained all day Tuesday.
Rained all day Wednesday.
Rained all day Thursday.
Stopped Raining Thursday night.
Overcast all day Friday. (We had the water carnival anyway.)
Friday evening, during the farewell campfire, it cleared off.
The worst part? It was Webelos Week...we were in the woods with a bunch of 10-year olds, most of them on their first extended trip away from Mama.
Yeah, we damaged a lot of kids in those days...
Worst week at Scout Camp evah.....
Sometime in the early 80s now, I forget which year.
We pulled into camp Sunday afternoon. By Sunday evening it had clouded over, and it started raining during the welcome campfire.
Rained all day Monday.
Rained all day Tuesday.
Rained all day Wednesday.
Rained all day Thursday.
Stopped Raining Thursday night.
Overcast all day Friday. (We had the water carnival anyway.)
Friday evening, during the farewell campfire, it cleared off.
The worst part? It was Webelos Week...we were in the woods with a bunch of 10-year olds, most of them on their first extended trip away from Mama.
Yeah, we damaged a lot of kids in those days...
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 19:03:23
Random on 08/12/2008 19:03:23
ohh Mark Wahlberg
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/12/2008 19:03:33
velveeta jones on 08/12/2008 19:03:33
Oh Random! If you really put an Obama sign there, (as opposed to photoshop) then YOU are my new hero!
:clap:
:clap:
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 19:05:19
livingonli on 08/12/2008 19:05:19
And now it's off to the salt mine.
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 19:08:47
Oh, that's a real photo, real sign...(But i took back the sign...because i want it for my yard...I paid 7 bucks for that thing.)
Random on 08/12/2008 19:08:47
Quote by velveeta jones:
Oh Random! If you really put an Obama sign there, (as opposed to photoshop) then YOU are my new hero!
:clap:
Oh, that's a real photo, real sign...(But i took back the sign...because i want it for my yard...I paid 7 bucks for that thing.)
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 19:12:22
That was one of those Coast Guard lighthouses from I think first season that in out really off the coast in New England.
Did you see the St. Augistine epi? In the actual light house you could actually see something look over the bannister at the top. It was freaking.
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 19:12:22
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
random is enjoying St. Augustine from his rainy Window in the hotel room.
how was the ghost tour?
Oh? they were booked last night, the tour is tonight.
Is the St. Augustine Lighthouse on the tour? If not ya'll should check it out and see if they do a night tour. Ghost Hunters did a case/show there and if it's to be believed they caught some cool stuff on video
Nah, the lighthouse is a good 3 - 4 miles away.
On the tour we do the cemetary, old school building and the fort.
Just thowin' it out there for ya.
:D
Well, i drove by before. And it's not the light house where the chair moved so...
That was one of those Coast Guard lighthouses from I think first season that in out really off the coast in New England.
Did you see the St. Augistine epi? In the actual light house you could actually see something look over the bannister at the top. It was freaking.
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 19:15:12
Oh, i remember that, it was great.
I still love the jail, where the thing runs to the camera and turns around, and disappears. That's great.
Random on 08/12/2008 19:15:12
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Well, i drove by before. And it's not the light house where the chair moved so...
That was one of those Coast Guard lighthouses from I think first season that in out really off the coast in New England.
Did you see the St. Augistine epi? In the actual light house you could actually see something look over the bannister at the top. It was freaking.
Oh, i remember that, it was great.
I still love the jail, where the thing runs to the camera and turns around, and disappears. That's great.
Comment by BobR on 08/12/2008 19:15:54
I guess I misunderstood when you said "Notice what's missing...Go on...guess." :rolleyes:
BobR on 08/12/2008 19:15:54
Quote by Random:
Well...If you want to ruin the fun for everyone...then yes.
If you don't, you laugh and shake your head.
I guess I misunderstood when you said "Notice what's missing...Go on...guess." :rolleyes:
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 19:18:27
TriSec on 08/12/2008 19:18:27
"Mommy...why does everybody have a bomb?"
:prince:
:prince:
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/12/2008 19:18:30
:rofl:
You weren't really supposed to guess! Silly boy!
velveeta jones on 08/12/2008 19:18:30
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
Well...If you want to ruin the fun for everyone...then yes.
If you don't, you laugh and shake your head.
I guess I misunderstood when you said "Notice what's missing...Go on...guess." :rolleyes:
:rofl:
You weren't really supposed to guess! Silly boy!
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 19:20:22
I poke fun Bob.
Random Poke...
I still find it funny.
Random on 08/12/2008 19:20:22
Quote by BobR:Quote by Random:
Well...If you want to ruin the fun for everyone...then yes.
If you don't, you laugh and shake your head.
I guess I misunderstood when you said "Notice what's missing...Go on...guess." :rolleyes:
I poke fun Bob.
Random Poke...
I still find it funny.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 19:28:57
I have watched that footage over and over again trying to figure out if its real or not. It's so hard to tell
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 19:28:57
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Well, i drove by before. And it's not the light house where the chair moved so...
That was one of those Coast Guard lighthouses from I think first season that in out really off the coast in New England.
Did you see the St. Augistine epi? In the actual light house you could actually see something look over the bannister at the top. It was freaking.
Oh, i remember that, it was great.
I still love the jail, where the thing runs to the camera and turns around, and disappears. That's great.
I have watched that footage over and over again trying to figure out if its real or not. It's so hard to tell
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 19:31:51
Oh, They went back and tried de-bunking it.
With them, i tend to take it on faith.
But International i don't trust as far as i could throw my T.V.
Random on 08/12/2008 19:31:51
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Well, i drove by before. And it's not the light house where the chair moved so...
That was one of those Coast Guard lighthouses from I think first season that in out really off the coast in New England.
Did you see the St. Augistine epi? In the actual light house you could actually see something look over the bannister at the top. It was freaking.
Oh, i remember that, it was great.
I still love the jail, where the thing runs to the camera and turns around, and disappears. That's great.
I have watched that footage over and over again trying to figure out if its real or not. It's so hard to tell
Oh, They went back and tried de-bunking it.
With them, i tend to take it on faith.
But International i don't trust as far as i could throw my T.V.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 19:35:18
Everythings "haunted" to them. Although I do love Barry. Almost fell off the couch when he and Brian were in Sherwood and Barry faceplanted.
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 19:35:18
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Well, i drove by before. And it's not the light house where the chair moved so...
That was one of those Coast Guard lighthouses from I think first season that in out really off the coast in New England.
Did you see the St. Augistine epi? In the actual light house you could actually see something look over the bannister at the top. It was freaking.
Oh, i remember that, it was great.
I still love the jail, where the thing runs to the camera and turns around, and disappears. That's great.
I have watched that footage over and over again trying to figure out if its real or not. It's so hard to tell
Oh, They went back and tried de-bunking it.
With them, i tend to take it on faith.
But International i don't trust as far as i could throw my T.V.
Everythings "haunted" to them. Although I do love Barry. Almost fell off the couch when he and Brian were in Sherwood and Barry faceplanted.
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 19:40:21
Oh, I was watching one episode and an "orb" and they were fawning over it.
I liked when they had the sound guy was knocked on his ass.
Random on 08/12/2008 19:40:21
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Oh, They went back and tried de-bunking it.
With them, i tend to take it on faith.
But International i don't trust as far as i could throw my T.V.
Everythings "haunted" to them. Although I do love Barry. Almost fell off the couch when he and Brian were in Sherwood and Barry faceplanted.
Oh, I was watching one episode and an "orb" and they were fawning over it.
I liked when they had the sound guy was knocked on his ass.
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 19:47:58
TriSec on 08/12/2008 19:47:58
More paranormal folks? I have a dear friend (local, non-blogger) who is into this stuff.
You'll note that the Official Blog Martyr, a Mr. Giles Corey of Salem, MA is also known to appear in and around Salem before disasters...
You'll note that the Official Blog Martyr, a Mr. Giles Corey of Salem, MA is also known to appear in and around Salem before disasters...
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 19:48:21
THat was Leads, Lim, or something like that. It's a castle in Ireland. I liked when they went out to one of the fairy hills. Thats was interesting.
Yeah the whole orb thing drives me nuts - it's frickin dust people.
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 19:48:21
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Oh, They went back and tried de-bunking it.
With them, i tend to take it on faith.
But International i don't trust as far as i could throw my T.V.
Everythings "haunted" to them. Although I do love Barry. Almost fell off the couch when he and Brian were in Sherwood and Barry faceplanted.
Oh, I was watching one episode and an "orb" and they were fawning over it.
I liked when they had the sound guy was knocked on his ass.
THat was Leads, Lim, or something like that. It's a castle in Ireland. I liked when they went out to one of the fairy hills. Thats was interesting.
Yeah the whole orb thing drives me nuts - it's frickin dust people.
Comment by BobR on 08/12/2008 20:04:49
BobR on 08/12/2008 20:04:49
I hate those kind of shows (on Discovery, History, and elsewhere). They are about 10% "meat", and 90% filler. Practically every line of the voiceover is a question... "Did Giles Corey appear before the last 5 disasters??"... "Some people think he's coming back to warn others!...". Speculation, questions formed to insinuate fact without actually doing so... It's retarded.
How about some substance fer chrissakes?
And then after the commercial, they replay the last 2/3 of what they already showed as a "recap".
Bleagh!
How about some substance fer chrissakes?
And then after the commercial, they replay the last 2/3 of what they already showed as a "recap".
Bleagh!
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 20:08:24
TriSec on 08/12/2008 20:08:24
Comment by TriSec on 08/12/2008 20:14:28
TriSec on 08/12/2008 20:14:28
And the "Headline of the Day" award goes to the Guardian UK....
Giant dog turd wreaks havoc at Swiss museum
You can't make this stuff up, folks!
Giant dog turd wreaks havoc at Swiss museum
You can't make this stuff up, folks!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 20:22:09
No, those are just shows that go over old ghost stories. I actually like them cause I like local folk lore.
Ghost Hunters is where they go in and try to de-bunk "ghost" stories. Say someone says they get the creepy feeling of being watched - well the use things that can tell how much electricitic is eminating from objects where people get the feeling. In a lot of cases that's what's doing it. They really try to research what and where they are.
I like Destination Truth for the same reasons. Plus the host is a little nuts.
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 20:22:09
Quote by BobR:
I hate those kind of shows (on Discovery, History, and elsewhere). They are about 10% "meat", and 90% filler. Practically every line of the voiceover is a question... "Did Giles Corey appear before the last 5 disasters??"... "Some people think he's coming back to warn others!...". Speculation, questions formed to insinuate fact without actually doing so... It's retarded.
How about some substance fer chrissakes?
And then after the commercial, they replay the last 2/3 of what they already showed as a "recap".
Bleagh!
No, those are just shows that go over old ghost stories. I actually like them cause I like local folk lore.
Ghost Hunters is where they go in and try to de-bunk "ghost" stories. Say someone says they get the creepy feeling of being watched - well the use things that can tell how much electricitic is eminating from objects where people get the feeling. In a lot of cases that's what's doing it. They really try to research what and where they are.
I like Destination Truth for the same reasons. Plus the host is a little nuts.
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 20:35:52
livingonli on 08/12/2008 20:35:52
Tonight I have Reds at Pittsburgh in HD. How bad will the Reds suck tonight?
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 20:38:39
livingonli on 08/12/2008 20:38:39
This is a sign that they are really hard up on programming in the 500-channel universe. FSN is showing Extreme Paintball. Just when I thought televising darts was a low. And now we go into a US Marine ad. Why don't you sign up and fight in the next military fiasco these neo-cons dream up?
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 20:41:23
Ghost Hunters is fun, i was a little annoyed that in the second season there was the annoying side story with brain (or whatever his name is).
The guys in the show are fun to watch, they're smart guys. It's a fun show, check it out.
And the sound guy wasn't in ireland. It was first season, cause they were in that ratty little trailer Sci-Fi probably bought them. Starting second season they had the store front.
And on a side note. I'd gladly beat on the International show all i like.
Random on 08/12/2008 20:41:23
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:
I hate those kind of shows (on Discovery, History, and elsewhere). They are about 10% "meat", and 90% filler. Practically every line of the voiceover is a question... "Did Giles Corey appear before the last 5 disasters??"... "Some people think he's coming back to warn others!...". Speculation, questions formed to insinuate fact without actually doing so... It's retarded.
How about some substance fer chrissakes?
And then after the commercial, they replay the last 2/3 of what they already showed as a "recap".
Bleagh!
No, those are just shows that go over old ghost stories. I actually like them cause I like local folk lore.
Ghost Hunters is where they go in and try to de-bunk "ghost" stories. Say someone says they get the creepy feeling of being watched - well the use things that can tell how much electricitic is eminating from objects where people get the feeling. In a lot of cases that's what's doing it. They really try to research what and where they are.
I like Destination Truth for the same reasons. Plus the host is a little nuts.
Ghost Hunters is fun, i was a little annoyed that in the second season there was the annoying side story with brain (or whatever his name is).
The guys in the show are fun to watch, they're smart guys. It's a fun show, check it out.
And the sound guy wasn't in ireland. It was first season, cause they were in that ratty little trailer Sci-Fi probably bought them. Starting second season they had the store front.
And on a side note. I'd gladly beat on the International show all i like.
Comment by BobR on 08/12/2008 20:45:59
6. remember the Carter Administration: Hey - I can answer YES to this one.
9. think it's relevant — despite what the sophisticates say — that several of Obama's mentors and associates have displayed a dislike for America or a disdain for Americans.: Fuck-you. AND the horse you rode in on.
18. suspect "merci beaucoup" is French for "empty suit.":
This doesn't even make sense. Does a non-sequitor dig at the French even count for anything anymore?
19. doubt that teleprompters are really magical dispensers of good ideas.: I agree with this - it's the person behind the words, and yes the words are important. What a condescending bit of tripe.
20. know in your gut that defiantly withstanding 4 1/2 years of torture trumps all of Obama's qualifications and accomplishments combined — regardless of what the elite pundits say.: Oh sure - that's WAY more important than intelligence, foresight, temperment, and leadership... and how do they know he "defiantly" withstood it?
BobR on 08/12/2008 20:45:59
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, Hardy, har-har!
How about this: Top sign you're voting for McCain: You're a fucking RETARD!
6. remember the Carter Administration: Hey - I can answer YES to this one.
9. think it's relevant — despite what the sophisticates say — that several of Obama's mentors and associates have displayed a dislike for America or a disdain for Americans.: Fuck-you. AND the horse you rode in on.
18. suspect "merci beaucoup" is French for "empty suit.":
This doesn't even make sense. Does a non-sequitor dig at the French even count for anything anymore?19. doubt that teleprompters are really magical dispensers of good ideas.: I agree with this - it's the person behind the words, and yes the words are important. What a condescending bit of tripe.
20. know in your gut that defiantly withstanding 4 1/2 years of torture trumps all of Obama's qualifications and accomplishments combined — regardless of what the elite pundits say.: Oh sure - that's WAY more important than intelligence, foresight, temperment, and leadership... and how do they know he "defiantly" withstood it?
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 20:46:12
Oh I know which one your talking about now - think that was also Eastern State
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 20:46:12
Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:
I hate those kind of shows (on Discovery, History, and elsewhere). They are about 10% "meat", and 90% filler. Practically every line of the voiceover is a question... "Did Giles Corey appear before the last 5 disasters??"... "Some people think he's coming back to warn others!...". Speculation, questions formed to insinuate fact without actually doing so... It's retarded.
How about some substance fer chrissakes?
And then after the commercial, they replay the last 2/3 of what they already showed as a "recap".
Bleagh!
No, those are just shows that go over old ghost stories. I actually like them cause I like local folk lore.
Ghost Hunters is where they go in and try to de-bunk "ghost" stories. Say someone says they get the creepy feeling of being watched - well the use things that can tell how much electricitic is eminating from objects where people get the feeling. In a lot of cases that's what's doing it. They really try to research what and where they are.
I like Destination Truth for the same reasons. Plus the host is a little nuts.
Ghost Hunters is fun, i was a little annoyed that in the second season there was the annoying side story with brain (or whatever his name is).
The guys in the show are fun to watch, they're smart guys. It's a fun show, check it out.
And the sound guy wasn't in ireland. It was first season, cause they were in that ratty little trailer Sci-Fi probably bought them. Starting second season they had the store front.
And on a side note. I'd gladly beat on the International show all i like.
Oh I know which one your talking about now - think that was also Eastern State
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 20:48:06
Random on 08/12/2008 20:48:06
Now, you wanna see bad Ghost stuff?
This show on Discovery, has a weird college group where the lead tries to look and act like the FBI agent from Twin Peaks.
He goes around with a group of other college kids and "Feel" around a house and "feel" melevolant forces. And he does the voice over where it sounds like it comes from a tape recorder.
One of the few i saw was about a "haunted" piano. They all walk by it and get spooked out. Then somehow he gets an old woman who checked out the amityville hauntings(that was a real even ya know) and she puts on a lame show about it being haunted. So they take the piano away, to see if the family settles in with it gone, but before the night is even out they break the thing apart and bury it. I thought it looked like a nice piano.
And another one where he claims a "demon" is purposfully challenging him. Where they beep it out on the show.
Now...I'm not sure if this show is suppose to be real, or a good(bad) mock up of fictional events (like blair witch)
This show on Discovery, has a weird college group where the lead tries to look and act like the FBI agent from Twin Peaks.
He goes around with a group of other college kids and "Feel" around a house and "feel" melevolant forces. And he does the voice over where it sounds like it comes from a tape recorder.
One of the few i saw was about a "haunted" piano. They all walk by it and get spooked out. Then somehow he gets an old woman who checked out the amityville hauntings(that was a real even ya know) and she puts on a lame show about it being haunted. So they take the piano away, to see if the family settles in with it gone, but before the night is even out they break the thing apart and bury it. I thought it looked like a nice piano.
And another one where he claims a "demon" is purposfully challenging him. Where they beep it out on the show.
Now...I'm not sure if this show is suppose to be real, or a good(bad) mock up of fictional events (like blair witch)
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 20:52:39
Really...wow...
First season had some cool stuff in it.
I saw one recently where they're in a place where a bunch of obvious ghost shit was set up. And when they confront the guy he said. "Uh...yeah...I forgot about that."
Course...International would say "It's Haunted!"
Random on 08/12/2008 20:52:39
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by BobR:
I hate those kind of shows (on Discovery, History, and elsewhere). They are about 10% "meat", and 90% filler. Practically every line of the voiceover is a question... "Did Giles Corey appear before the last 5 disasters??"... "Some people think he's coming back to warn others!...". Speculation, questions formed to insinuate fact without actually doing so... It's retarded.
How about some substance fer chrissakes?
And then after the commercial, they replay the last 2/3 of what they already showed as a "recap".
Bleagh!
No, those are just shows that go over old ghost stories. I actually like them cause I like local folk lore.
Ghost Hunters is where they go in and try to de-bunk "ghost" stories. Say someone says they get the creepy feeling of being watched - well the use things that can tell how much electricitic is eminating from objects where people get the feeling. In a lot of cases that's what's doing it. They really try to research what and where they are.
I like Destination Truth for the same reasons. Plus the host is a little nuts.
Ghost Hunters is fun, i was a little annoyed that in the second season there was the annoying side story with brain (or whatever his name is).
The guys in the show are fun to watch, they're smart guys. It's a fun show, check it out.
And the sound guy wasn't in ireland. It was first season, cause they were in that ratty little trailer Sci-Fi probably bought them. Starting second season they had the store front.
And on a side note. I'd gladly beat on the International show all i like.
Oh I know which one your talking about now - think that was also Eastern State
Really...wow...
First season had some cool stuff in it.
I saw one recently where they're in a place where a bunch of obvious ghost shit was set up. And when they confront the guy he said. "Uh...yeah...I forgot about that."
Course...International would say "It's Haunted!"
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 20:59:54
Paranormal State - A&E that's the show. It's so bad I have to watch. There are supposidly from real paranormal classes at Penn State.
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 20:59:54
Quote by Random:
Now, you wanna see bad Ghost stuff?
This show on Discovery, has a weird college group where the lead tries to look and act like the FBI agent from Twin Peaks.
He goes around with a group of other college kids and "Feel" around a house and "feel" melevolant forces. And he does the voice over where it sounds like it comes from a tape recorder.
One of the few i saw was about a "haunted" piano. They all walk by it and get spooked out. Then somehow he gets an old woman who checked out the amityville hauntings(that was a real even ya know) and she puts on a lame show about it being haunted. So they take the piano away, to see if the family settles in with it gone, but before the night is even out they break the thing apart and bury it. I thought it looked like a nice piano.
And another one where he claims a "demon" is purposfully challenging him. Where they beep it out on the show.
Now...I'm not sure if this show is suppose to be real, or a good(bad) mock up of fictional events (like blair witch)
Paranormal State - A&E that's the show. It's so bad I have to watch. There are supposidly from real paranormal classes at Penn State.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 21:02:48
I missed that one - I'll catch it in re-run though.
THey did one down in New Orleans, I think, if is wasn't there is was like Savanah, but they got this really chilling audio of a woman yelling for help. They check with the police to make sure something didn't happen nearby that they got on tape. It gave me goosebumps.
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 21:02:48
Really...wow...
First season had some cool stuff in it.
I saw one recently where they're in a place where a bunch of obvious ghost shit was set up. And when they confront the guy he said. "Uh...yeah...I forgot about that."
Course...International would say "It's Haunted!"
I missed that one - I'll catch it in re-run though.
THey did one down in New Orleans, I think, if is wasn't there is was like Savanah, but they got this really chilling audio of a woman yelling for help. They check with the police to make sure something didn't happen nearby that they got on tape. It gave me goosebumps.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 21:04:19
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 21:04:19
Rand -you realized we hijacked the blog with the paranormal :p
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 21:07:49
livingonli on 08/12/2008 21:07:49
What's a day on the blog wihtout a major ditch.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 21:12:25
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 21:12:25
That's true liv - getting stuck in a ditch is normal blog life :)
Comment by wickedpam on 08/12/2008 21:14:23
wickedpam on 08/12/2008 21:14:23
okay - signing off. I'll see everyone tomorrow!
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 21:15:50
That's clever and informative.
Here is random's Edit...
1. aren't a news anchor. ~ See, Fox isn't real news
2. read the New York Times for pretty much the same reason the NSA monitors radio transmissions. ~ For free phone sex
3. automatically conclude that the person laughing in the car next to you must be listening to Rush. Or maybe Obama off teleprompter. ~ Because no one can keep a straight face as Rush dishes out his B.S.
4. dislocated your shoulder trying to explain Obama's position on Iraq to co-workers. ~ Yes because like every idiot, you felt the need to bring props to class instead of making a real speech.
5. find autobiographies generally more interesting when the author has, you know, done something.~ So...If i understand this correctly, McCain's first book was about the 4 and a half years he spend as a POW. Now, not to discredit that fine service, but how is that doing something? How is spending four and a half years getting your ass doing something? Is there a thriving secret snuff porn novel industry in this country.
6. remember the Carter Administration. ~ Yes because that would make you really old.
7. would give a month's pay to play Jack Bauer's partner on 24. ~ If i recall, doesn't everyone else besides Jack Bauer die, at some point? And Bauer himself get's his ass kicked every other hour? So What? i'm going to pay that much to either get my ass beaten up along with him for day in and day out, then get killed? fuck that.
8. increasingly agree with Mark Steyn that "almost everything [Obama] says is, well, nuts." ~ Of course, everything McCain says is incoherent...so take your pick.
9. think it's relevant — despite what the sophisticates say — that several of Obama's mentors and associates have displayed a dislike for America or a disdain for Americans. ~ But decide to wash over the Nazi gun runner of your current hero. Okay, not the run running for president, but the one in office.
10. think it's relevant that several of McCain's mentors and associates are American heroes of historic magnitude. ~ Yes...cause we know all about them, being dead and all.
11. think about 9/11 more than once a year. ~ I am seriously wondering about that snuff porn now. Is it that popular?
12. have concluded that Larry the Cable Guy makes way more sense than Howard Dean. ~ If the thought "Larry the Cable Guy makes sense" ever occurs to you...kill yourself.
13. feel a little safer during turbulence when your pilot is a calm "white haired dude." ~ Just don't hope he falls asleep.
14. thought about Hillary's 3:00 a.m. phone call ad when you first heard about Russian tanks in Georgia. ~ If your thought was the Goldwater Daisy ad, it might be more relevant.
15. wonder why Obama felt it necessary to give a speech on patriotism. ~ Seriously, and why does he wear that pin all the time.
16. get sorta creeped out by 200,000 Germans chanting "Obama! Obama!" ~ Cause you know, Germans secretly means Nazis.
17. think the jury may still be out on Harvard Law School. ~ But seriously, you're lawyers the only good one from that school, seriously.
18. suspect "merci beaucoup" is French for "empty suit." ~ They're called Freedom Fries!
19. doubt that teleprompters are really magical dispensers of good ideas. ~ But radios are.
20. know in your gut that defiantly withstanding 4 1/2 years of torture trumps all of Obama's qualifications and accomplishments combined — regardless of what the elite pundits say. ~ Okay. Seriously. The snuff porn is getting way past creepy here.
21. repeatedly find yourself asking "Change to what?" ~ And stopped asking "Change from waht?"
22. have ever used the term "pompous twit' in the same sentence with "Marx," "Marcuse," or "Sartre." ~ We're impressed you even know "Marcuse" or "Sartre". hell, kind of impressed if you know "Marx"
23. don't like being told what to do — especially by someone who hasn't done it. ~ Damn your parents, and the cops, and the people telling you not to run with scissors. Go ahead, run as fast as you can.
24. really like ticking off the media, Hollywood, academics, and PC busybodies everywhere. ~ Because we enjoy spite over reason.
25. weren't born yesterday. ~ Ohhhh I get it, this was a humor piece...Here i was worried it was real.
Random on 08/12/2008 21:15:50
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, Hardy, har-har!
How about this: Top sign you're voting for McCain: You're a fucking RETARD!
That's clever and informative.
Here is random's Edit...
1. aren't a news anchor. ~ See, Fox isn't real news
2. read the New York Times for pretty much the same reason the NSA monitors radio transmissions. ~ For free phone sex
3. automatically conclude that the person laughing in the car next to you must be listening to Rush. Or maybe Obama off teleprompter. ~ Because no one can keep a straight face as Rush dishes out his B.S.
4. dislocated your shoulder trying to explain Obama's position on Iraq to co-workers. ~ Yes because like every idiot, you felt the need to bring props to class instead of making a real speech.
5. find autobiographies generally more interesting when the author has, you know, done something.~ So...If i understand this correctly, McCain's first book was about the 4 and a half years he spend as a POW. Now, not to discredit that fine service, but how is that doing something? How is spending four and a half years getting your ass doing something? Is there a thriving secret snuff porn novel industry in this country.
6. remember the Carter Administration. ~ Yes because that would make you really old.
7. would give a month's pay to play Jack Bauer's partner on 24. ~ If i recall, doesn't everyone else besides Jack Bauer die, at some point? And Bauer himself get's his ass kicked every other hour? So What? i'm going to pay that much to either get my ass beaten up along with him for day in and day out, then get killed? fuck that.
8. increasingly agree with Mark Steyn that "almost everything [Obama] says is, well, nuts." ~ Of course, everything McCain says is incoherent...so take your pick.
9. think it's relevant — despite what the sophisticates say — that several of Obama's mentors and associates have displayed a dislike for America or a disdain for Americans. ~ But decide to wash over the Nazi gun runner of your current hero. Okay, not the run running for president, but the one in office.
10. think it's relevant that several of McCain's mentors and associates are American heroes of historic magnitude. ~ Yes...cause we know all about them, being dead and all.
11. think about 9/11 more than once a year. ~ I am seriously wondering about that snuff porn now. Is it that popular?
12. have concluded that Larry the Cable Guy makes way more sense than Howard Dean. ~ If the thought "Larry the Cable Guy makes sense" ever occurs to you...kill yourself.
13. feel a little safer during turbulence when your pilot is a calm "white haired dude." ~ Just don't hope he falls asleep.
14. thought about Hillary's 3:00 a.m. phone call ad when you first heard about Russian tanks in Georgia. ~ If your thought was the Goldwater Daisy ad, it might be more relevant.
15. wonder why Obama felt it necessary to give a speech on patriotism. ~ Seriously, and why does he wear that pin all the time.
16. get sorta creeped out by 200,000 Germans chanting "Obama! Obama!" ~ Cause you know, Germans secretly means Nazis.
17. think the jury may still be out on Harvard Law School. ~ But seriously, you're lawyers the only good one from that school, seriously.
18. suspect "merci beaucoup" is French for "empty suit." ~ They're called Freedom Fries!
19. doubt that teleprompters are really magical dispensers of good ideas. ~ But radios are.
20. know in your gut that defiantly withstanding 4 1/2 years of torture trumps all of Obama's qualifications and accomplishments combined — regardless of what the elite pundits say. ~ Okay. Seriously. The snuff porn is getting way past creepy here.
21. repeatedly find yourself asking "Change to what?" ~ And stopped asking "Change from waht?"
22. have ever used the term "pompous twit' in the same sentence with "Marx," "Marcuse," or "Sartre." ~ We're impressed you even know "Marcuse" or "Sartre". hell, kind of impressed if you know "Marx"
23. don't like being told what to do — especially by someone who hasn't done it. ~ Damn your parents, and the cops, and the people telling you not to run with scissors. Go ahead, run as fast as you can.
24. really like ticking off the media, Hollywood, academics, and PC busybodies everywhere. ~ Because we enjoy spite over reason.
25. weren't born yesterday. ~ Ohhhh I get it, this was a humor piece...Here i was worried it was real.
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 21:16:56
Lord...I don't want to watch, but everytime it's on...I'm forced to.
Random on 08/12/2008 21:16:56
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Random:
Now, you wanna see bad Ghost stuff?
This show on Discovery, has a weird college group where the lead tries to look and act like the FBI agent from Twin Peaks.
He goes around with a group of other college kids and "Feel" around a house and "feel" melevolant forces. And he does the voice over where it sounds like it comes from a tape recorder.
One of the few i saw was about a "haunted" piano. They all walk by it and get spooked out. Then somehow he gets an old woman who checked out the amityville hauntings(that was a real even ya know) and she puts on a lame show about it being haunted. So they take the piano away, to see if the family settles in with it gone, but before the night is even out they break the thing apart and bury it. I thought it looked like a nice piano.
And another one where he claims a "demon" is purposfully challenging him. Where they beep it out on the show.
Now...I'm not sure if this show is suppose to be real, or a good(bad) mock up of fictional events (like blair witch)
Paranormal State - A&E that's the show. It's so bad I have to watch. There are supposidly from real paranormal classes at Penn State.
Lord...I don't want to watch, but everytime it's on...I'm forced to.
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 21:17:50
Cool...And that i spent twenty minutes on something no one will ever see.
Random on 08/12/2008 21:17:50
Quote by wickedpam:
Rand -you realized we hijacked the blog with the paranormal :p
Cool...And that i spent twenty minutes on something no one will ever see.
Comment by Random on 08/12/2008 21:20:17
Oh...wow, gotta see that one. Was that the one where there was a window, that led to a roof and one of the guys there said a blonde woman showed up one Night, banging on the window?
Random on 08/12/2008 21:20:17
Quote by wickedpam:Really...wow...
First season had some cool stuff in it.
I saw one recently where they're in a place where a bunch of obvious ghost shit was set up. And when they confront the guy he said. "Uh...yeah...I forgot about that."
Course...International would say "It's Haunted!"
I missed that one - I'll catch it in re-run though.
THey did one down in New Orleans, I think, if is wasn't there is was like Savanah, but they got this really chilling audio of a woman yelling for help. They check with the police to make sure something didn't happen nearby that they got on tape. It gave me goosebumps.
Oh...wow, gotta see that one. Was that the one where there was a window, that led to a roof and one of the guys there said a blonde woman showed up one Night, banging on the window?
Comment by livingonli on 08/12/2008 22:26:25
livingonli on 08/12/2008 22:26:25
Almost time for baseball. Since I will be in the HD room, I will be off-line.
Comment by Random on 08/13/2008 01:29:22
Random on 08/13/2008 01:29:22
Random has just finished ghost tour
Comment by livingonli on 08/13/2008 02:28:00
livingonli on 08/13/2008 02:28:00
How was it?
Gee, where did everyone go tonight?
Gee, where did everyone go tonight?
Comment by Random on 08/13/2008 02:46:49
Random on 08/13/2008 02:46:49
I'll post pics tomorrow afternoon...
It was boring...actually.
It was boring...actually.
Comment by livingonli on 08/13/2008 02:56:41
livingonli on 08/13/2008 02:56:41
Guess it was just a lot of hype. Pam will probably have something to say about it tomorrow.
Comment by 
Raine on 08/13/2008 05:07:51
Raine on 08/13/2008 05:07:51
:yawn: 
Laughing smiling chatting and loving seeing friends... Gnite.
(and Velveeta... I saw that vuluptuous petard! I wold have mooned back, but I was sitting next to an 11 year old. and I did indeed see Washington DC... not quite Mala... but I waved in the general direction... I scared said 11 year old a bit... she thought I was a crazy lady... and I guess she was correct! )
I will talk to ya all tomorrow.
Raine
Laughing smiling chatting and loving seeing friends... Gnite.
(and Velveeta... I saw that vuluptuous petard! I wold have mooned back, but I was sitting next to an 11 year old.
and I did indeed see Washington DC... not quite Mala... but I waved in the general direction... I scared said 11 year old a bit... she thought I was a crazy lady... and I guess she was correct! )I will talk to ya all tomorrow.
Raine