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WTF America?
Author: BobR
Date: 11/09/2016 13:32:08
WTF America?
This is the worst possible outcome for our country. A president Romney? That would have been bad. A president McCain (with a vice-president Palin)? Equally bad. But President tRump? That is a disaster.
On top of that, the Republicans retained control of the House and Senate. It's true that their margins were narrowed. But for at least the next two years the best we can hope for is no change. The worst? Well - every stock market is tanking because they know what's coming. The value of the U.S. dollar is plunging worldwide. For those who voted for tRump - have you checked your retirement accounts this morning?
In numerous states, in the electoral vote and the popular vote - it was essentially a tie. We don't do ties in presidential elections though. We wanted Clinton to win; we hoped for a blowout. Instead, we are looking at 4 years of President tRump. The rest of the world is shocked and concerned. Our place as a beacon on the hill is greatly diminished as we have elected a misogynist, racist, ignorant bully with no clue as to how the government works.
One has to wonder - was he elected because of his horrendous verbiage on women, minorities and non-Christians, or in spite of it? I would like to believe the latter. I would like to believe that a great number of my fellow Americans wanted change and didn't care about the things he said. Yes that's white privilege (and male privilege) at its worst, but to believe otherwise is to make me very depressed and wary about the sickness in the hearts of all those people.
Was the hatred for Clinton really that strong? Did the hype really overshadow her intellect, lifetime of service, and skillset ready-made for her to be effective on Day One? Did people really revulse from the idea of a Madam President?... from another Clinton presidency? I know that is the case with the anti-intellectual crowd, but I have to hope it wasn't most of them. To do so forces me to avoid the "red" part of the U.S. for the rest of my life. I cannot feel safe among a group of people with such hatred in their hearts. I am already disappointed that so many bought the bullshit peddled by tRump and Russia. I would not blame the best and brightest from foreign lands if they had second thoughts about (legally) immigrating to the United States.
I am disappointed that the glass ceiling remains intact. I am sad that young women will take the lesson that a strong intelligent woman is still not enough to beat a crude unqualified man for the office of the president. It feels like an episode of "Mad Men", except not entertaining.
I hope that Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the rest of the SCOTUS can hold on another 4 years. They are our last firewall.
I don't want to write paragraph after paragraph of doomsday scenarios. You've already created them in your imagination, and would only make you more depressed and worried. So I am going to try to find some brighter spots to focus on.
The first one is just how close this was. As of this counting, Clinton is actually ahead in the popular vote, meaning more people who voted wanted her to be president. But like losing a football game to one bad call late in the 4th quarter, it's a technicality and doesn't change the outcome. Still - I take some solace in that. There is no "mandate".
We suffered through 8 years of Bush, with a Republican-controlled Congress most of the time. Yes, that greatly diminished our country, but we got through it. We'll get through this.
There is also the reality that the Republican party leadership is fairly "moderate" compared to tRump, and are not about to sign on to his more radical nonsense, like building a wall, banning Muslims, or mass deportation of immigrants here illegally. We may actually see immigration reform, because Rubio and Graham want it, and they're willing to make it a "win" for a Republican president.
The margins of control in both houses of Congress have also narrowed significantly, so blocking heinous legislation should be quite doable. Expect to see a lot of filibusters over the next two years. Also - we have another chance of taking control of the House and/or Senate in 2 years.
For now, though, we have reaped the wheat that has been sown. America - I hoped you're ready for it. This is what you asked for, this is what you bought into. Get ready for some buyers remorse.
This is the worst possible outcome for our country. A president Romney? That would have been bad. A president McCain (with a vice-president Palin)? Equally bad. But President tRump? That is a disaster.
On top of that, the Republicans retained control of the House and Senate. It's true that their margins were narrowed. But for at least the next two years the best we can hope for is no change. The worst? Well - every stock market is tanking because they know what's coming. The value of the U.S. dollar is plunging worldwide. For those who voted for tRump - have you checked your retirement accounts this morning?
In numerous states, in the electoral vote and the popular vote - it was essentially a tie. We don't do ties in presidential elections though. We wanted Clinton to win; we hoped for a blowout. Instead, we are looking at 4 years of President tRump. The rest of the world is shocked and concerned. Our place as a beacon on the hill is greatly diminished as we have elected a misogynist, racist, ignorant bully with no clue as to how the government works.
One has to wonder - was he elected because of his horrendous verbiage on women, minorities and non-Christians, or in spite of it? I would like to believe the latter. I would like to believe that a great number of my fellow Americans wanted change and didn't care about the things he said. Yes that's white privilege (and male privilege) at its worst, but to believe otherwise is to make me very depressed and wary about the sickness in the hearts of all those people.
Was the hatred for Clinton really that strong? Did the hype really overshadow her intellect, lifetime of service, and skillset ready-made for her to be effective on Day One? Did people really revulse from the idea of a Madam President?... from another Clinton presidency? I know that is the case with the anti-intellectual crowd, but I have to hope it wasn't most of them. To do so forces me to avoid the "red" part of the U.S. for the rest of my life. I cannot feel safe among a group of people with such hatred in their hearts. I am already disappointed that so many bought the bullshit peddled by tRump and Russia. I would not blame the best and brightest from foreign lands if they had second thoughts about (legally) immigrating to the United States.
I am disappointed that the glass ceiling remains intact. I am sad that young women will take the lesson that a strong intelligent woman is still not enough to beat a crude unqualified man for the office of the president. It feels like an episode of "Mad Men", except not entertaining.
I hope that Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the rest of the SCOTUS can hold on another 4 years. They are our last firewall.
I don't want to write paragraph after paragraph of doomsday scenarios. You've already created them in your imagination, and would only make you more depressed and worried. So I am going to try to find some brighter spots to focus on.
The first one is just how close this was. As of this counting, Clinton is actually ahead in the popular vote, meaning more people who voted wanted her to be president. But like losing a football game to one bad call late in the 4th quarter, it's a technicality and doesn't change the outcome. Still - I take some solace in that. There is no "mandate".
We suffered through 8 years of Bush, with a Republican-controlled Congress most of the time. Yes, that greatly diminished our country, but we got through it. We'll get through this.
There is also the reality that the Republican party leadership is fairly "moderate" compared to tRump, and are not about to sign on to his more radical nonsense, like building a wall, banning Muslims, or mass deportation of immigrants here illegally. We may actually see immigration reform, because Rubio and Graham want it, and they're willing to make it a "win" for a Republican president.
The margins of control in both houses of Congress have also narrowed significantly, so blocking heinous legislation should be quite doable. Expect to see a lot of filibusters over the next two years. Also - we have another chance of taking control of the House and/or Senate in 2 years.
For now, though, we have reaped the wheat that has been sown. America - I hoped you're ready for it. This is what you asked for, this is what you bought into. Get ready for some buyers remorse.
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 11/09/2016 13:41:33
wickedpam on 11/09/2016 13:41:33
Morning 
I still don't understand how ALL the polls were wrong, 538, Huff Post, RCP, all of them - wrong.
I still don't understand how ALL the polls were wrong, 538, Huff Post, RCP, all of them - wrong.
Comment by 
Raine on 11/09/2016 13:41:45
Raine on 11/09/2016 13:41:45
I feel utterly and completely destroyed this morning. I a feel physically sick to my stomach. I know this too shall pass, but I am still in shock.
This is the song in my head right now.
The falcon and the snowman... God help us help us all.
This is the song in my head right now.
The falcon and the snowman... God help us help us all.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 14:16:52
Raine on 11/09/2016 14:16:52
I am ashamed to be white today.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 11/09/2016 14:18:21
Scoopster on 11/09/2016 14:18:21
Mornin' guys... 
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 11/09/2016 14:18:21
trojanrabbit on 11/09/2016 14:18:21
How many here actually expect the filibuster to remain viable? It's gone day 1. WIth a new Supreme Court Justice seated before February.
Still waiting for Wall Street to open and the DJIA to tank.
Still waiting for Wall Street to open and the DJIA to tank.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/09/2016 14:19:36
trojanrabbit on 11/09/2016 14:19:36
Repeat after me......Speaker of the House Louie Gohmert....
Comment by wickedpam on 11/09/2016 14:20:10
wickedpam on 11/09/2016 14:20:10
I am tired of the Beriniebro's and their shit. And Fuck the 3rd party voters, AGAIN.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 11/09/2016 14:20:16
Mondobubba on 11/09/2016 14:20:16
When I opened my phone this is the text I got from a dear friend. Her 5 or 6-year-old granddaughter is having this reaction to the election:
Young Miss Carlee, out of the mouths of babes.
Carlee is crying because we have president [elect] that hates her I have no idea what to say because it's true
Young Miss Carlee, out of the mouths of babes.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/09/2016 14:23:45
trojanrabbit on 11/09/2016 14:23:45
This was a coup pulled off by the FBI with help from the Russians.
At this point, I don't know what Obama can do in the way of punishment, but there needs to be some.
At this point, I don't know what Obama can do in the way of punishment, but there needs to be some.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/09/2016 14:29:57
Scoopster on 11/09/2016 14:29:57
The only hope is that Garland somehow gets confirmed in the next two months, or that Trump simply keeps his nomination.
Comment by 
BobR on 11/09/2016 14:34:52
It's good to hope.
BobR on 11/09/2016 14:34:52
Quote by Scoopster:
The only hope is that Garland somehow gets confirmed in the next two months, or that Trump simply keeps his nomination.
It's good to hope.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/09/2016 14:37:03
for Miss Carlee
wickedpam on 11/09/2016 14:37:03
Quote by Mondobubba:
When I opened my phone this is the text I got from a dear friend. Her 5 or 6-year-old granddaughter is having this reaction to the election:Carlee is crying because we have president [elect] that hates her I have no idea what to say because it's true
Young Miss Carlee, out of the mouths of babes.
for Miss Carlee
Comment by wickedpam on 11/09/2016 14:38:13
sure......my hope is lost at the moment
wickedpam on 11/09/2016 14:38:13
Quote by Scoopster:
The only hope is that Garland somehow gets confirmed in the next two months, or that Trump simply keeps his nomination.
sure......my hope is lost at the moment
Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/09/2016 14:45:22
trojanrabbit on 11/09/2016 14:45:22
Ah....can't you just see it now, before every NFL game the cameras scan the crowds....all of them facing the flag doing the Bellamy.....er....Trump Salute. And you at home better be doing that too, your newly distributed MAGA Set-top box will have a camera and microphone.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 15:03:26
Please tell Carlee that she is loved by me.
Raine on 11/09/2016 15:03:26
Quote by Mondobubba:
When I opened my phone this is the text I got from a dear friend. Her 5 or 6-year-old granddaughter is having this reaction to the election:Carlee is crying because we have president [elect] that hates her I have no idea what to say because it's true
Young Miss Carlee, out of the mouths of babes.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/09/2016 15:05:33
Fuck you Kellyanne. That is fucking BULLSHIT.
trojanrabbit on 11/09/2016 15:05:33
"Give him a chance as your President-Elect like we all did with President Obama, and we all did with President Bill Clinton et cetera,†Conway said. “Give him a chance and be there for him. Come together as a nation
Fuck you Kellyanne. That is fucking BULLSHIT.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 15:06:26
I am praying to god that saner heads will prevail.
Just please give us this.
Raine on 11/09/2016 15:06:26
Quote by Scoopster:
The only hope is that Garland somehow gets confirmed in the next two months, or that Trump simply keeps his nomination.
I am praying to god that saner heads will prevail.
Just please give us this.
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 11/09/2016 15:06:44
Will in Chicago on 11/09/2016 15:06:44
Hello, bloggers!!
I cannot in all honesty say good morning. I believe that America's voters have made a big mistake. I feared that this could happen, as many Americans wanted change in a year of anti-establishment candidates. Many Americans have not fully seen the economic recovery, and their fears of a changing nation were ripe fruit for Trump to pick.
I fear that we will have an economy like bankrupt Kansas and more wars. I fear that I will lose my health coverage. I am going to redouble my job hunting efforts and I look forward to an honest analysis of why Trump won and Clinton lost. It was not a good year for establishment candidates. In an irony, the billionaire painted himself as an outsider and Clinton as the consummate insider. We also have to ask where the Democratic party will go from here. Perhaps the Third Way is over and we need to decide what we stand for as a party. If we don't, Trump and his successors will define us,
I cannot in all honesty say good morning. I believe that America's voters have made a big mistake. I feared that this could happen, as many Americans wanted change in a year of anti-establishment candidates. Many Americans have not fully seen the economic recovery, and their fears of a changing nation were ripe fruit for Trump to pick.
I fear that we will have an economy like bankrupt Kansas and more wars. I fear that I will lose my health coverage. I am going to redouble my job hunting efforts and I look forward to an honest analysis of why Trump won and Clinton lost. It was not a good year for establishment candidates. In an irony, the billionaire painted himself as an outsider and Clinton as the consummate insider. We also have to ask where the Democratic party will go from here. Perhaps the Third Way is over and we need to decide what we stand for as a party. If we don't, Trump and his successors will define us,
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 15:13:26
Raine on 11/09/2016 15:13:26
DU is STILL DOWN.
Around 4:30pm on Tuesday November 8, Democratic Underground was hacked, apparently by a supporter of Donald Trump. This person clearly knew what they were doing, and despite our best efforts we have not yet been able to resolve the issues caused by the hack.
We do not believe that any member data has been compromised. And we are confident that donor data has not been compromised because that information is handled by PayPal and never passes through to our servers. But at this time we are unable to bring our discussion forum online.
The hack was clearly aimed to cause maximum disruption on our busiest night of the year, and we deeply regret that we won't be able to spend election night with our great community of members. We ask for your patience while we continue to work to fix this problem, and while we do not have a time frame we will do our best to get DU back online as soon as possible.
If anyone has any information about the hack, or has knowledge that might help us to fix it, please feel free to contact us: admin@democraticunderground.com
We will be posting updates on Facebook and Twitter.
We are deeply disappointed that this has happened. But we'll be back.
Skinner, EarlG, and Elad
DU Administrators
Comment by wickedpam on 11/09/2016 15:13:34
wickedpam on 11/09/2016 15:13:34
I just had one of our sales reps tell me tRump is going to fix the economy. It took all that i had not to 1) break into tears, 2) scream, and 3) slam the door in his face. 
Comment by Will in Chicago on 11/09/2016 15:18:19
I asked a friend in California last night if it was wrong for me to wish that my parents had split earlier and Mom listened to someone who urged her to move us to Tel Aviv or Haifa. I fear that the alt right will be emboldened and made a normalized part of the GOP. I fear that we will see more hate crimes.
Will in Chicago on 11/09/2016 15:18:19
Quote by wickedpam:
I just had one of our sales reps tell me tRump is going to fix the economy. It took all that i had not to 1) break into tears, 2) scream, and 3) slam the door in his face.
I asked a friend in California last night if it was wrong for me to wish that my parents had split earlier and Mom listened to someone who urged her to move us to Tel Aviv or Haifa. I fear that the alt right will be emboldened and made a normalized part of the GOP. I fear that we will see more hate crimes.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 15:27:20
Raine on 11/09/2016 15:27:20
I pray to goddess that this is hoax.
KKK on the bridge in Mebane, NC this morning 😪 pic.twitter.com/GcSQeUB3w9
— shorty guizman (@kelbi1lewis) November 9, 2016
Comment by Will in Chicago on 11/09/2016 15:41:32
Will in Chicago on 11/09/2016 15:41:32
I went to Facebook and saw a three-year old post. I did not realize it is the 78th anniversary of Kristallnacht.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 15:52:06
Raine on 11/09/2016 15:52:06
I feel like a hostage living in a death cult today.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 11/09/2016 15:54:18
I am going to work today at the Jewish Federation of Northwest Indiana. We had a bomb threat to the preschool in February. I will now be much more alert.
If this is what we deserve, I pray that we are here four years from now. I fear that we are in for a long, hard ride into the future.
Will in Chicago on 11/09/2016 15:54:18
Quote by Raine:
I feel like a hostage living in a death cult today.
I am going to work today at the Jewish Federation of Northwest Indiana. We had a bomb threat to the preschool in February. I will now be much more alert.
If this is what we deserve, I pray that we are here four years from now. I fear that we are in for a long, hard ride into the future.
Comment by Mondobubba on 11/09/2016 16:17:50
Yeah, I feel the same way. Since I took the day off, I am going to do some self-care. I am off to walk on the beach in the rain.
Mondobubba on 11/09/2016 16:17:50
Quote by Raine:
I feel like a hostage living in a death cult today.
Yeah, I feel the same way. Since I took the day off, I am going to do some self-care. I am off to walk on the beach in the rain.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 16:25:46
I'll be with you in spirit, Mondo.
Raine on 11/09/2016 16:25:46
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
I feel like a hostage living in a death cult today.
Yeah, I feel the same way. Since I took the day off, I am going to do some self-care. I am off to walk on the beach in the rain.
I'll be with you in spirit, Mondo.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 16:33:51
Raine on 11/09/2016 16:33:51
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 16:46:02
Raine on 11/09/2016 16:46:02
She is the strongest woman in the world.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 16:52:52
Raine on 11/09/2016 16:52:52
I feel so proud to be a Democrat right now.
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 11/09/2016 17:13:01
velveeta jones on 11/09/2016 17:13:01
Fuck this.
And I don't mean ya'll my friends.
I watched young person after young person- some POC - walk in and vote for this shit.
I'm done being lied to by the media and that includes social media that keeps us in a tight little box where we don't know what's really going on. While they make a FUCKING FORTUNE delivering us ads aimed directly at us and tell us we need to "go Live" or "Share a memory" while they IGNORE the real stories of lies and scandals. Wikileaks and Russia won this election. Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, and MSNBC and ABC and CNN and CBS kept us in the dark and amused while they made $$$$.
They are not getting mine anymore. Fuck them.
And I don't mean ya'll my friends.
I watched young person after young person- some POC - walk in and vote for this shit.
I'm done being lied to by the media and that includes social media that keeps us in a tight little box where we don't know what's really going on. While they make a FUCKING FORTUNE delivering us ads aimed directly at us and tell us we need to "go Live" or "Share a memory" while they IGNORE the real stories of lies and scandals. Wikileaks and Russia won this election. Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, and MSNBC and ABC and CNN and CBS kept us in the dark and amused while they made $$$$.
They are not getting mine anymore. Fuck them.
Comment by 
TriSec on 11/09/2016 17:37:41
TriSec on 11/09/2016 17:37:41
I have no more fucks left to give.
Mondo, you are wrong. SECESSION NOW.
'United' States? Not anymore.
Mondo, you are wrong. SECESSION NOW.
'United' States? Not anymore.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/09/2016 17:38:52
Scoopster on 11/09/2016 17:38:52
California seems to be in turmoil right now.
Comment by 
clintster on 11/09/2016 18:27:24
White, male, above 40, hetero, cisgender, I'm ashamed of all of it right now.
So, can anyone tell me if Momma went back to opening with "We're Not Gonna Take It" today?
clintster on 11/09/2016 18:27:24
Quote by Raine:
I am ashamed to be white today.
White, male, above 40, hetero, cisgender, I'm ashamed of all of it right now.
So, can anyone tell me if Momma went back to opening with "We're Not Gonna Take It" today?
Comment by Scoopster on 11/09/2016 18:35:48
Scoopster on 11/09/2016 18:35:48
DU just updated their status. The website isn't back up, but they're warning everyone to start changing passwords to their other accounts just in case.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 18:42:54
I was just coming here to post that.
These are the same god damned MF'rs who cry fucking free speech when someone dares to disagree with them.
I am so angry.
Raine on 11/09/2016 18:42:54
Quote by Scoopster:
DU just updated their status. The website isn't back up, but they're warning everyone to start changing passwords to their other accounts just in case.
I was just coming here to post that.
These are the same god damned MF'rs who cry fucking free speech when someone dares to disagree with them.
I am so angry.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 18:43:56
Today she went with REM's end of the world as we know it.
They aren't sure what new musci they will choose. It won't be "We're Not Gonna Take It" -- becuase well...
Raine on 11/09/2016 18:43:56
Quote by clintster:Quote by Raine:
I am ashamed to be white today.
White, male, above 40, hetero, cisgender, I'm ashamed of all of it right now.
So, can anyone tell me if Momma went back to opening with "We're Not Gonna Take It" today?
They aren't sure what new musci they will choose. It won't be "We're Not Gonna Take It" -- becuase well...
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 18:44:42
Raine on 11/09/2016 18:44:42
Quote by velveeta jones:
Fuck this.
And I don't mean ya'll my friends.
I watched young person after young person- some POC - walk in and vote for this shit.
I'm done being lied to by the media and that includes social media that keeps us in a tight little box where we don't know what's really going on. While they make a FUCKING FORTUNE delivering us ads aimed directly at us and tell us we need to "go Live" or "Share a memory" while they IGNORE the real stories of lies and scandals. Wikileaks and Russia won this election. Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, and MSNBC and ABC and CNN and CBS kept us in the dark and amused while they made $$$$.
They are not getting mine anymore. Fuck them.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 18:46:00
PRIMAL SCREAM!
Raine on 11/09/2016 18:46:00
Comment by wickedpam on 11/09/2016 19:04:52
wickedpam on 11/09/2016 19:04:52
Teeny tiny bright spot - City of Manassas just added a Dem to the City Council and punted a good number of Repubs including the Vice Mayor. Our mayor is a Repub who runs unopposed (a lot) but he can't vote on things like budget stuff. So ya, an bit of balance in Manassas.
And a douchbag teapartier who ran for council who I know got last place (ha ha)
Also DC approved of petitioning for statehood, they want to be the State of New Columbia. Mondo we will be native New Columbians!!!
And a douchbag teapartier who ran for council who I know got last place (ha ha)
Also DC approved of petitioning for statehood, they want to be the State of New Columbia. Mondo we will be native New Columbians!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 11/09/2016 19:05:32
wickedpam on 11/09/2016 19:05:32
PS: Sec Clinton is a class act.
Are they going to restart or go back to the Clinton Foundation?
Are they going to restart or go back to the Clinton Foundation?
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 19:08:11
NSFW
I am feeling a lot like this WRT certain segments of this nation today.
Raine on 11/09/2016 19:08:11
I am feeling a lot like this WRT certain segments of this nation today.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/09/2016 19:08:56
Scoopster on 11/09/2016 19:08:56
Man, Obama can't even pop Garland in as a recess appointment, because even if he was able to get around McConnell during the break the recess appointment would expire when the new Congress is seated in January.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 19:10:27
She's not running again.
Raine on 11/09/2016 19:10:27
Quote by wickedpam:
PS: Sec Clinton is a class act.
Are they going to restart or go back to the Clinton Foundation?
She's not running again.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/09/2016 19:27:45
Right, but the Clinton Foundation helped a lot of people.
idk, guess I'm not explaining myself well today
wickedpam on 11/09/2016 19:27:45
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
PS: Sec Clinton is a class act.
Are they going to restart or go back to the Clinton Foundation?
She's not running again.
Right, but the Clinton Foundation helped a lot of people.
idk, guess I'm not explaining myself well today
Comment by Scoopster on 11/09/2016 19:29:12
Petitioning... Congress...
FUCK!!!!
Scoopster on 11/09/2016 19:29:12
Quote by wickedpam:Also DC approved of petitioning for statehood, they want to be the State of New Columbia. Mondo we will be native New Columbians!!!
Petitioning... Congress...
FUCK!!!!
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 19:31:55
Raine on 11/09/2016 19:31:55
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 19:32:40
your fine, Sister.
Raine on 11/09/2016 19:32:40
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
PS: Sec Clinton is a class act.
Are they going to restart or go back to the Clinton Foundation?
She's not running again.
Right, but the Clinton Foundation helped a lot of people.
idk, guess I'm not explaining myself well today
Comment by TriSec on 11/09/2016 19:33:34
TriSec on 11/09/2016 19:33:34
Nate Silver's credibility is in the shitter now, innit?
Comment by Scoopster on 11/09/2016 19:34:49
Not really.. he left the possibility wide open that this would happen. I am a little pissed that he wasn't more vocal about it.
Scoopster on 11/09/2016 19:34:49
Quote by TriSec:
Nate Silver's credibility is in the shitter now, innit?
Not really.. he left the possibility wide open that this would happen. I am a little pissed that he wasn't more vocal about it.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/09/2016 19:44:52
It will never pass. too many black people for their liking, I just like the thought and that they are preparing. That's all.
wickedpam on 11/09/2016 19:44:52
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by wickedpam:Also DC approved of petitioning for statehood, they want to be the State of New Columbia. Mondo we will be native New Columbians!!!
Petitioning... Congress...
FUCK!!!!
It will never pass. too many black people for their liking, I just like the thought and that they are preparing. That's all.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 20:00:31
Raine on 11/09/2016 20:00:31
Comment by Scoopster on 11/09/2016 20:02:22
Scoopster on 11/09/2016 20:02:22
Oh oops..
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/elections/how-trump-pushed-the-election-map-to-the-right.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/elections/how-trump-pushed-the-election-map-to-the-right.html
Comment by wickedpam on 11/09/2016 20:03:59
wickedpam on 11/09/2016 20:03:59
Comment by BobR on 11/09/2016 20:13:35
sure - 20%. That's nice. No one is going to trust him next time; I sure won't.
BobR on 11/09/2016 20:13:35
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by TriSec:
Nate Silver's credibility is in the shitter now, innit?
Not really.. he left the possibility wide open that this would happen. I am a little pissed that he wasn't more vocal about it.
sure - 20%. That's nice. No one is going to trust him next time; I sure won't.
Comment by 
livingonli on 11/09/2016 20:14:36
livingonli on 11/09/2016 20:14:36
I was just listening on Thom Hartmann to another master control operator who was laid off from his job last month, and he's a gay man in Mississippi. (That can't be good).
Today, I have to get some stuff organized for my unemployment application, I am probably going to figure out in six months whether to fight or flee because living abroad for the next 4 years is looking very tempting.
Today, I have to get some stuff organized for my unemployment application, I am probably going to figure out in six months whether to fight or flee because living abroad for the next 4 years is looking very tempting.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 20:29:42
Happens to all of us.
What a fucking shotter of a day.
Raine on 11/09/2016 20:29:42
Quote by Scoopster:
Oh oops..
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/elections/how-trump-pushed-the-election-map-to-the-right.html
What a fucking shotter of a day.
Comment by Raine on 11/09/2016 20:31:42
You have your passport?
I swear to god, I want to run away right now myself.
I know that's not rational but I really am not looking forward to living uder a presidency like this.
It hurts.
Raine on 11/09/2016 20:31:42
Quote by livingonli:
I was just listening on Thom Hartmann to another master control operator who was laid off from his job last month, and he's a gay man in Mississippi. (That can't be good).
Today, I have to get some stuff organized for my unemployment application, I am probably going to figure out in six months whether to fight or flee because living abroad for the next 4 years is looking very tempting.
You have your passport?
I swear to god, I want to run away right now myself.
I know that's not rational but I really am not looking forward to living uder a presidency like this.
It hurts.
Comment by livingonli on 11/09/2016 20:36:42
I have to get a new one. I haven't had one in awhile since I couldn't afford to go abroad anyway. All of Trump's personality shows that he is going to become very authoritarian and that won't be good for those of us who don't support him.
livingonli on 11/09/2016 20:36:42
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:
I was just listening on Thom Hartmann to another master control operator who was laid off from his job last month, and he's a gay man in Mississippi. (That can't be good).
Today, I have to get some stuff organized for my unemployment application, I am probably going to figure out in six months whether to fight or flee because living abroad for the next 4 years is looking very tempting.
You have your passport?
I swear to god, I want to run away right now myself.
I know that's not rational but I really am not looking forward to living uder a presidency like this.
It hurts.
I have to get a new one. I haven't had one in awhile since I couldn't afford to go abroad anyway. All of Trump's personality shows that he is going to become very authoritarian and that won't be good for those of us who don't support him.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/09/2016 20:54:15
trojanrabbit on 11/09/2016 20:54:15
Well, at least strike another R Senator down, it looks like Hassan defeated Ayotte by a little more than 1000 votes.
Comment by BobR on 11/09/2016 21:23:55
Start looking NOW. Jobs may be hard to come by after the steaming DUMP takes office. If you want to live abroad, though, Costa Rica is pretty cheap. Not sure if you could get a job there, though.
BobR on 11/09/2016 21:23:55
Quote by livingonli:
I was just listening on Thom Hartmann to another master control operator who was laid off from his job last month, and he's a gay man in Mississippi. (That can't be good).
Today, I have to get some stuff organized for my unemployment application, I am probably going to figure out in six months whether to fight or flee because living abroad for the next 4 years is looking very tempting.
Start looking NOW. Jobs may be hard to come by after the steaming DUMP takes office. If you want to live abroad, though, Costa Rica is pretty cheap. Not sure if you could get a job there, though.
Comment by livingonli on 11/09/2016 21:30:37
I would love Canada if it wasn't so cold in the winter. Costa Rica or the Caribbean could be options, or maybe Europe depending how the political winds are blowing over there.
livingonli on 11/09/2016 21:30:37
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli:
I was just listening on Thom Hartmann to another master control operator who was laid off from his job last month, and he's a gay man in Mississippi. (That can't be good).
Today, I have to get some stuff organized for my unemployment application, I am probably going to figure out in six months whether to fight or flee because living abroad for the next 4 years is looking very tempting.
Start looking NOW. Jobs may be hard to come by after the steaming DUMP takes office. If you want to live abroad, though, Costa Rica is pretty cheap. Not sure if you could get a job there, though.
I would love Canada if it wasn't so cold in the winter. Costa Rica or the Caribbean could be options, or maybe Europe depending how the political winds are blowing over there.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/09/2016 21:39:31
wickedpam on 11/09/2016 21:39:31
just had a thought - every year at tax time the pres (no matter who) releases his filing for the year - do you think the orange one will for 2016?
Comment by livingonli on 11/09/2016 21:44:23
I will say no. He will continue to claim he's being audited.
livingonli on 11/09/2016 21:44:23
Quote by wickedpam:
just had a thought - every year at tax time the pres (no matter who) releases his filing for the year - do you think the orange one will for 2016?
I will say no. He will continue to claim he's being audited.
Comment by wickedpam on 11/09/2016 21:54:03
ugh
wickedpam on 11/09/2016 21:54:03
Quote by livingonli:Quote by wickedpam:
just had a thought - every year at tax time the pres (no matter who) releases his filing for the year - do you think the orange one will for 2016?
I will say no. He will continue to claim he's being audited.
ugh
Comment by TriSec on 11/09/2016 23:28:08
TriSec on 11/09/2016 23:28:08
You should be proud. I've typed several responses to things posted by soon to be former FB 'friends', and I didn't send any of them. Not wasting my time with Hitlerite vermin anymore.
Comment by Scoopster on 11/10/2016 00:31:53
Hey mang. How u doin?
Scoopster on 11/10/2016 00:31:53
Quote by TriSec:
You should be proud. I've typed several responses to things posted by soon to be former FB 'friends', and I didn't send any of them. Not wasting my time with Hitlerite vermin anymore.
Hey mang. How u doin?