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Weaving Iron into Drapes
Author: BobR
Date: 08/20/2008 12:32:49
For those old enough to remember, we were once engaged in a "cold war" with Russia (then - in combination with other countries such as Georgia - known as the USSR). There were no missiles fired, no battlefields but for those of ideology and politics. The division between East and West was referred to as the Iron Curtain, coined by Goebbels, popularized by Churchill, and symbolized by the Berlin Wall. When the wall fell about 29 years ago, it was cause for worldwide celebration.
One of the darkest symbols of the cold war was the constant threat of nuclear anihilation. There was a constant tit-for-tat build-up on both sides creating an enormous military-industrial complex that was always coming out with newer better missiles, bombers, and fighters. Russia finally blinked (financially) and the rest is history. This - and the war in Afghanistan - broke Russia's back and bank.
The iron curtain was maintained by a paranoid political machine in defense of its ideology, and reinforced with brutality and fear. It's demise brought hope for a kinder, gentler world where people could disagree with their (or other) governments and not worry about retribution. When the curtain fell, however, the curtain rod remained behind, and now it seems that the U.S. is trying to create a new set of drapes to hang there.
This time, things are different.
This time, we are the one's pushing to create a hostile atmosphere. This time, we are the one's on shaky financial ground. This time, we are the ones going broke with a war on foreign soil, and exhorbitant spending on military hardware.
Russia, on the contrary, seems to be flush with money:
When the news broke of a Russian invasion of Georgia, it was naturally seen as an unprovoked act of aggression by Russia. Facts have a way of slipping out though, and we've come to learn that the CIA and the Mossad were the instigators, pushing Georgia to act militarily against a region that is largely populated by Russians and sympathetic to Russia. Russia in turn felt it had to protect "it's people".
With their newfound wealth and confidence, Russia, as Tony Karon writes, has stopped retreating:
NATO has tried to step up by suspending "business as usual" with Russia, but it rings hollow, and reeks of the desperation of poker player down to his last chips trying to bluff his way out of bad hand. In a reckless attempt to show strength, we signed a "missile defense" deal with Poland.
Does anyone remember Reagan's "Star Wars" initiative? It was predicated on the notion we could shoot down approaching Russian missiles, thereby creating a "missile defense shield" around the U.S. It was never clear how we would defend against the radiation floating through the atmosphere. Regardless, this has always been the "Magic Pudding" for which we continue to strive:
So here we are trying to recreate a bad situation from a position of weakness. The real question has to be: why? It's been suggested that since terrorism has lost its "cachet" as a boogieman to scare the masses, perhaps they can go back to an old reliable one - nuclear holocaust from a superpower. Or - perhaps they know this military action will be ending and their buddies in the military-industrial complex will need a raison d'etre for their bloated contracts.
Whatever the reason, the Bush administration is clumsily kick-starting the loom and trying to reweave an iron curtain with snips of old thread, and held together with post 9/11 paranoia. They haven't much time before the election. Here's hoping they fail.
One of the darkest symbols of the cold war was the constant threat of nuclear anihilation. There was a constant tit-for-tat build-up on both sides creating an enormous military-industrial complex that was always coming out with newer better missiles, bombers, and fighters. Russia finally blinked (financially) and the rest is history. This - and the war in Afghanistan - broke Russia's back and bank.
The iron curtain was maintained by a paranoid political machine in defense of its ideology, and reinforced with brutality and fear. It's demise brought hope for a kinder, gentler world where people could disagree with their (or other) governments and not worry about retribution. When the curtain fell, however, the curtain rod remained behind, and now it seems that the U.S. is trying to create a new set of drapes to hang there.
This time, things are different.
This time, we are the one's pushing to create a hostile atmosphere. This time, we are the one's on shaky financial ground. This time, we are the ones going broke with a war on foreign soil, and exhorbitant spending on military hardware.
Russia, on the contrary, seems to be flush with money:
What is certain is that Moscow is afloat in petrodollars; there are more billionaires in Moscow than in any other city in the world. More than New York, London, or Dubai. Millionaires are as common as pigeons. Together the rich and mega-rich constitute a social class who were loosely called New Russians when they first appeared in the 1990s. Half of them are survivors of industrial shake-ups like the "aluminum war" of ten years ago, when executives were killed left and right. Half have discovered that starting a bank is more profitable than robbing one. Half are young financial trapeze artists swinging from one hedge fund to another. (You can have three halves in Russia.)
When the news broke of a Russian invasion of Georgia, it was naturally seen as an unprovoked act of aggression by Russia. Facts have a way of slipping out though, and we've come to learn that the CIA and the Mossad were the instigators, pushing Georgia to act militarily against a region that is largely populated by Russians and sympathetic to Russia. Russia in turn felt it had to protect "it's people".
With their newfound wealth and confidence, Russia, as Tony Karon writes, has stopped retreating:
President George W Bush has long proclaimed Teddy Roosevelt as one of his heroes, but he seems to have missed a crucial piece of advice bequeathed by the swashbuckling president of a century ago: “Speak softly and carry a big stick.”
All of last week, Mr Bush loudly berated Russia, accusing it of bullying little Georgia and demanding that it withdraw its forces. “The people of Georgia have cast their lot with the free world,” Bush intoned, “and we will not cast them aside.” He promised a “robust and ongoing” military mission to deliver aid in Georgia, implicitly warning the Russians to stay out of their way. He repeatedly used the phrase “We expect Russia…” as if to convey authority. Russia, added his Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Friday, would face “consequences” for its action.
Despite the tenor of his statements, it was plain to see that there was no stick in Bush’s hand. No answer to an “or else what?”. In case anyone got the wrong idea – as did the Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili, pouncing on Bush’s aid announcement to boast that the US military was coming to take charge of Georgia’s air and sea ports – the US Defence Secretary Robert Gates made clear that the aid mission was far more limited than Bush’s language had suggested, and that the US military had no intention of putting itself between Russian and Georgian forces.
Mr Bush on Friday continued to proclaim Georgia a “courageous democracy” under attack from its bullying neighbour. But the view even from his closest allies in Europe was dramatically different: “Both sides are probably to blame for the conflict,” said Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel.
The disconnect between the Bush administration’s rhetoric and its actions was highlighted on Friday, when Condi Rice flew to Tbilisi to make it clear that Georgia had no choice but to sign a cease-fire whose terms had, essentially, been dictated by Moscow. Mr Saakashvili’s open reluctance to sign, and his lashing out at Western betrayal even as Ms Rice stood beside him, reveal just how little leverage the West had managed to bring to bear on Russia.
NATO has tried to step up by suspending "business as usual" with Russia, but it rings hollow, and reeks of the desperation of poker player down to his last chips trying to bluff his way out of bad hand. In a reckless attempt to show strength, we signed a "missile defense" deal with Poland.
Does anyone remember Reagan's "Star Wars" initiative? It was predicated on the notion we could shoot down approaching Russian missiles, thereby creating a "missile defense shield" around the U.S. It was never clear how we would defend against the radiation floating through the atmosphere. Regardless, this has always been the "Magic Pudding" for which we continue to strive:
It’s a novel way to take your own life. Just as Russia demonstrates what happens to former minions that annoy it, Poland agrees to host a US missile defence base. The Russians, as Poland expected, respond to this proposal by offering to turn the country into a parking lot. This proves that the missile defence system is necessary after all: it will stop the missiles Russia will now aim at Poland, the Czech Republic and the UK in response to, er, their involvement in the missile defence system.
The American government insists that the interceptors, which will be stationed on the Baltic coast, have nothing to do with Russia: their purpose is to defend Europe and the US against the intercontinental ballistic missiles Iran and North Korea don’t possess. This is why they are being placed in Poland, which, as every geography student in Texas knows, shares a border with both rogue states.
They permit us to look forward to a glowing future, in which missile defence, according to the Pentagon, will “protect our homeland … and our friends and allies from ballistic missile attack”; as long as the Russians wait until it’s working before they nuke us. The good news is that, at the present rate of progress, reliable missile defence is only 50 years away. The bad news is that it has been 50 years away for the past six decades.
So here we are trying to recreate a bad situation from a position of weakness. The real question has to be: why? It's been suggested that since terrorism has lost its "cachet" as a boogieman to scare the masses, perhaps they can go back to an old reliable one - nuclear holocaust from a superpower. Or - perhaps they know this military action will be ending and their buddies in the military-industrial complex will need a raison d'etre for their bloated contracts.
Whatever the reason, the Bush administration is clumsily kick-starting the loom and trying to reweave an iron curtain with snips of old thread, and held together with post 9/11 paranoia. They haven't much time before the election. Here's hoping they fail.
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Comment by 
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 12:50:18
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 12:50:18
Morning :hug:
Comment by 
m-hadley on 08/20/2008 13:02:40
m-hadley on 08/20/2008 13:02:40
Mornin' Mala & BobR, :coffee:
Nice post, BobR. I gotta alotta work to do today - the 1Ls are here and that means loads of work for me :(
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :peace:
Nice post, BobR. I gotta alotta work to do today - the 1Ls are here and that means loads of work for me :(
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug: & :peace:
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:11:40
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:11:40
Chris shouldn't you be using the Fractured Fairytale music?
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:13:41
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:13:41
:o
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:13:56
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:13:56
That is so sad.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:16:14
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:16:14
Yeah for Rachel! :clap:
Comment by 
TriSec on 08/20/2008 13:19:29
TriSec on 08/20/2008 13:19:29
Morning, comrades!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:21:13
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:21:13
Hey Tri and Faye!
Comment by 
starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:25:27
starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:25:27
Good morning my friends. :coffee2:
It is a delightfully crisp morning in the NorthEast. The sun is shining. I wore a light scarf during the drive in.
One question concerns your blog this a.m.
Could the Jonas Brothers BE any more annoying?
It is a delightfully crisp morning in the NorthEast. The sun is shining. I wore a light scarf during the drive in.
One question concerns your blog
this a.m. Could the Jonas Brothers BE any more annoying?
Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 13:25:54
TriSec on 08/20/2008 13:25:54
Well, I didn't want to put the picture here (it's a bit big), but I'd appreciate everyone taking a look at "The Maddowan" flying proud today!
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:27:24
starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:27:24
What happened with Rachel? Is she finally getting a TV show?
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:27:37
I think I'm out of there demographics, only I know about them is their a Disney "band"
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:27:37
Quote by starling310:
Good morning my friends. :coffee2:
It is a delightfully crisp morning in the NorthEast. The sun is shining. I wore a light scarf during the drive in.
One question concerns your blog
Could the Jonas Brothers BE any more annoying?
I think I'm out of there demographics, only I know about them is their a Disney "band"
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:28:02
Yep - getting her own honest to God show.
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:28:02
Quote by starling310:
What happened with Rachel? Is she finally getting a TV show?
Yep - getting her own honest to God show.
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:28:30
starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:28:30
My theory with the Georgia kerfuffle?
BushCo. couldn't get "Iran : Iraq part Deux" to fly, so they shifted to Plan B. Period.
"The Cold War : Part Deux"
BushCo. couldn't get "Iran : Iraq part Deux" to fly, so they shifted to Plan B. Period.
"The Cold War : Part Deux"
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:28:51
starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:28:51
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:
What happened with Rachel? Is she finally getting a TV show?
Yep - getting her own honest to God show.
Comment by 
Raine on 08/20/2008 13:33:54
Raine on 08/20/2008 13:33:54
Good mornng! excellent post Bobber! 
Comment by m-hadley on 08/20/2008 13:36:15
m-hadley on 08/20/2008 13:36:15
Mornin' Raine & Roomie,
Yeah, Dr. Maddow!!! :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
Yeah, Dr. Maddow!!! :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
Comment by 
BobR on 08/20/2008 13:37:44
So do you think it's to maintain their fear-driven power agenda, a gimme to the contractors, or just simple bloodlust?
It does seem obvious that they want an "us -vs- them" war mindset in the forefront of American's thoughts, but I haven't come to a conclusion as to why...
BobR on 08/20/2008 13:37:44
Quote by starling310:
My theory with the Georgia kerfuffle?
BushCo. couldn't get "Iran : Iraq part Deux" to fly, so they shifted to Plan B. Period.
"The Cold War : Part Deux"
So do you think it's to maintain their fear-driven power agenda, a gimme to the contractors, or just simple bloodlust?
It does seem obvious that they want an "us -vs- them" war mindset in the forefront of American's thoughts, but I haven't come to a conclusion as to why...
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 13:37:54
Raine on 08/20/2008 13:37:54
:rolleyes2: Sean needs to shut up.
Comment by BobR on 08/20/2008 13:38:46
Her show starts Sept 8, and follows Keith's at 9:00 PM...
2 hrs down the tubes every weeknight... :P
BobR on 08/20/2008 13:38:46
Quote by starling310:
Her show starts Sept 8, and follows Keith's at 9:00 PM...
2 hrs down the tubes every weeknight... :P
Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 13:42:48
Characteristic #3:
Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
TriSec on 08/20/2008 13:42:48
Quote by starling310:
My theory with the Georgia kerfuffle?
BushCo. couldn't get "Iran : Iraq part Deux" to fly, so they shifted to Plan B. Period.
"The Cold War : Part Deux"
Characteristic #3:
Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 13:44:25
TriSec on 08/20/2008 13:44:25
Well, I listen to Keith's podcast now (they finally started putting the entire show out, and it's a brisk 45 minutes), so I will gladly add Rachel to my viewing schedule.
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:44:46
D) All of the above.
And, bonus points for doing JUST before an election where they are, understandably, afraid that they are going to lose...big time!
starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:44:46
Quote by BobR:Quote by starling310:
My theory with the Georgia kerfuffle?
BushCo. couldn't get "Iran : Iraq part Deux" to fly, so they shifted to Plan B. Period.
"The Cold War : Part Deux"
So do you think it's to maintain their fear-driven power agenda, a gimme to the contractors, or just simple bloodlust?
It does seem obvious that they want an "us -vs- them" war mindset in the forefront of American's thoughts, but I haven't come to a conclusion as to why...
D) All of the above.
And, bonus points for doing JUST before an election where they are, understandably, afraid that they are going to lose...big time!
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:45:26
Hi ya roomie!
How ya doin' these days, darlin?
starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:45:26
Quote by m-hadley:
Mornin' Raine & Roomie,
Yeah, Dr. Maddow!!! :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
Hi ya roomie!
How ya doin' these days, darlin?
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:50:12
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:50:12
All I think of when I hear Michael Medved is bad movie reviewer
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:50:21
starling310 on 08/20/2008 13:50:21
Did someone say Thom Hartmann?
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 13:50:51
Do not forget about where the big oil pipeline is supposed to go...
Raine on 08/20/2008 13:50:51
Quote by BobR:Quote by starling310:
My theory with the Georgia kerfuffle?
BushCo. couldn't get "Iran : Iraq part Deux" to fly, so they shifted to Plan B. Period.
"The Cold War : Part Deux"
So do you think it's to maintain their fear-driven power agenda, a gimme to the contractors, or just simple bloodlust?
It does seem obvious that they want an "us -vs- them" war mindset in the forefront of American's thoughts, but I haven't come to a conclusion as to why...
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:51:05
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 13:51:05
Doofy said he called Thom a couple of times
Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 13:51:57
TriSec on 08/20/2008 13:51:57
If Thom Hartmann was a guest on Rachel Maddow's new show, would their combined IQ immediately render the rest of us babbling imbeciles?
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 13:52:00
Hey -- they have purity Rings!
( I just read that in Parade Magazine.... )
Raine on 08/20/2008 13:52:00
Quote by starling310:
Good morning my friends. :coffee2:
It is a delightfully crisp morning in the NorthEast. The sun is shining. I wore a light scarf during the drive in.
One question concerns your blog
Could the Jonas Brothers BE any more annoying?
( I just read that in Parade Magazine.... )
Comment by m-hadley on 08/20/2008 13:52:44
Heya Roomie,
Thanks for asking
I've been better, but I'm hanging in there... How's thangs with you?
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 08/20/2008 13:52:44
Quote by starling310:Quote by m-hadley:
Mornin' Raine & Roomie,
Yeah, Dr. Maddow!!! :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
Hi ya roomie!
How ya doin' these days, darlin?
Heya Roomie,
Thanks for asking
I've been better, but I'm hanging in there... How's thangs with you? Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 13:55:02
velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 13:55:02
Morning all.
Great post Bobber.
"Clumsy" is a great word for the entire bush administration!!! :clap:
Great post Bobber.
"Clumsy" is a great word for the entire bush administration!!! :clap:
Comment by 
livingonli on 08/20/2008 13:58:53
livingonli on 08/20/2008 13:58:53
Good morning all. 
It does seem that Bush Co. needs a new enemy because the only way the Republican Party can stay in power is by keeping people in fear. All the while the policies they are pushing are bankrupting the country and putting us on the verge of another Great Depression.
It does seem that Bush Co. needs a new enemy because the only way the Republican Party can stay in power is by keeping people in fear. All the while the policies they are pushing are bankrupting the country and putting us on the verge of another Great Depression.
Comment by BobR on 08/20/2008 13:59:11
BobR on 08/20/2008 13:59:11
Appropos of today's blog post:
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 14:02:50
velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 14:02:50
Hey, did everyone read that article from a POW who was in the camp with McCain? Very interesting! One thing I learned (among many) everyone in the camp was offered early release, and turned it down. McCain is not unique!
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:03:40
livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:03:40
The SMS Live Blog now has banner ads. And one of them seems to be for an anti-Obama book (not the Corsi one).
Comment by m-hadley on 08/20/2008 14:07:51
Liv,
I noticed that, too - wondering who is behind that?
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
m-hadley on 08/20/2008 14:07:51
Quote by livingonli:
The SMS Live Blog now has banner ads. And one of them seems to be for an anti-Obama book (not the Corsi one).
Liv,
I noticed that, too - wondering who is behind that?
Cheers,
mfaye
:hug:
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:08:36
livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:08:36
Daily Show is a repeat. They are running the clips from Miss Buffalo Chip so that you can see when Mrs. McCain was offered up as a contestant.
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 14:10:34
velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 14:10:34
btw, Bobber, I forgot to respond to your comment last night. I'm not really sick. Unless you count sick and tired from 7 days STRAIGHT of work! UG!!
I went home yesterday and went right to bed! :lol:
I went home yesterday and went right to bed! :lol:
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 14:11:16
<-coffee
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 14:11:16
<-coffee
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:12:55
livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:12:55
Ooh, Liberal host catfight. Will we see Stephanie and Randi jello mud wrestling?
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 14:13:39
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 14:13:39
Um - I have some fishnets. They go great with my jean skirt and boots
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:14:53
livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:14:53
And Randi is about the same age as Stephanie.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 14:15:40
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 14:15:40
I think their about the same age
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 14:16:42
starling310 on 08/20/2008 14:16:42
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by starling310:Quote by m-hadley:
Mornin' Raine & Roomie,
Yeah, Dr. Maddow!!! :airhump:
Cheers,
mfaye
:peace:
Hi ya roomie!
How ya doin' these days, darlin?
Things are good. Uneventful, but good. :fbump:
Heya Roomie,
Thanks for asking
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:18:53
livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:18:53
Why does 
keep trying to make Momma older than she actually is?
keep trying to make Momma older than she actually is?
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 14:19:52
settle down squeezy...
:)
Raine on 08/20/2008 14:19:52
Quote by livingonli:
Ooh, Liberal host catfight. Will we see Stephanie and Randi jello mud wrestling?
settle down squeezy...
:)
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:21:27
Bow-chicka-bow-bow.
livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:21:27
Quote by Raine:Quote by livingonli:
Ooh, Liberal host catfight. Will we see Stephanie and Randi jello mud wrestling?
settle down squeezy...
:)
Bow-chicka-bow-bow.
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 14:21:49
I am re-quoting this from the other day. From The Graves are Not Yet Full:
starling310 on 08/20/2008 14:21:49
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning all.
It does seem that Bush Co. needs a new enemy because the only way the Republican Party can stay in power is by keeping people in fear. All the while the policies they are pushing are bankrupting the country and putting us on the verge of another Great Depression.
I am re-quoting this from the other day. From The Graves are Not Yet Full:
"Sudan's Big Men have excelled in their peculiar environment by mastering two intertwined requirements of power. The first is the art of manipulating potent symbols, masking one's personal agenda in a larger legitimating cause. It must be a cause which justifies extreme measures, and for which poeple are willing to sacrifice their lives. . ."
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 14:21:57
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 14:21:57
I would hope he listens or else why is he calling?
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 14:22:39
Raine on 08/20/2008 14:22:39
When is Momma's Bday? is she a Virgo too???
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 14:28:58
Raine on 08/20/2008 14:28:58
David is the smartest boy in class...
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:32:44
livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:32:44
CNN International is reporting on a plane crash in Madrid although there not saying how many were killed.
Comment by m-hadley on 08/20/2008 14:32:58
Raine,
I think that Steph's b-day is Sept 29 - so she's a Libra. Are you a Virgo? When is your b-day? Just wondering, cause I'm gonna turn the Big 5 - Oh on Sept 13th
:cry:
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 08/20/2008 14:32:58
Quote by Raine:
When is Momma's Bday? is she a Virgo too???
Raine,
I think that Steph's b-day is Sept 29 - so she's a Libra. Are you a Virgo? When is your b-day? Just wondering, cause I'm gonna turn the Big 5 - Oh on Sept 13th
:cry:Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 14:35:18
Raine on 08/20/2008 14:35:18
Tri Congress Critter!!! 
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 14:36:37
Raine on 08/20/2008 14:36:37
:heart: Faye... My b-day is the 1st. can I buy you fishnet stocking for your birthday?
can I buy you fishnet stocking for your birthday?
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 14:39:12
velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 14:39:12
LIE-berman........... at the RNC. Phfffffth.
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:41:17
He's a wanker.
livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:41:17
Quote by velveeta jones:
LIE-berman........... at the RNC. Phfffffth.
He's a wanker.
Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 14:43:21
TriSec on 08/20/2008 14:43:21
Hmm? Ed Markey was on with Momma?
(too many meetings today, I usually don't get a chance to plug in on Wednesdays...)
Net Neutrality, yes? (The issue should still be out there, I haven't heard anything new about it in a while.)
(too many meetings today, I usually don't get a chance to plug in on Wednesdays...)
Net Neutrality, yes? (The issue should still be out there, I haven't heard anything new about it in a while.)
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 14:45:46
starling310 on 08/20/2008 14:45:46
Ed "Mockey" with the Red Sox 8th Inning theme song reference.
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:47:35
I get the e-mails from Free Press and they at least are discussing Net Neutrality every day and not just in the US since it's also becoming an issue in Canada and starting to become one in Europe too.
livingonli on 08/20/2008 14:47:35
Quote by TriSec:
Hmm? Ed Markey was on with Momma?
(too many meetings today, I usually don't get a chance to plug in on Wednesdays...)
Net Neutrality, yes? (The issue should still be out there, I haven't heard anything new about it in a while.)
I get the e-mails from Free Press and they at least are discussing Net Neutrality every day and not just in the US since it's also becoming an issue in Canada and starting to become one in Europe too.
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 14:47:35
starling310 on 08/20/2008 14:47:35
Can I just say that trying to give up Dairy is waaaaaaaaay harder than giving up meat!
:thud:
:thud:
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 14:51:07
Of Sept?
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 14:51:07
Quote by Raine:
:heart: Faye... My b-day is the 1st.
Of Sept?
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 14:54:43
starling310 on 08/20/2008 14:54:43
OMG! I just realized that Rachel will replace the exceedingly annoying Dan Abrahms!!!!!
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 14:55:19
But of course! We will be blissfully away on our honeymoon.
Raine on 08/20/2008 14:55:19
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
:heart: Faye... My b-day is the 1st.
Of Sept?
But of course! We will be blissfully away on our honeymoon.
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 15:01:57
velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 15:01:57
Gary Glitter finally comin' home? :lol:
And straight to prison!
Though he just had a (fake) 'heart attack' in the Thai airport that he has holed up in!
And straight to prison!
Though he just had a (fake) 'heart attack' in the Thai airport that he has holed up in!
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 15:01:58
livingonli on 08/20/2008 15:01:58
The blog will be awfully quiet without Raine or BobR around. I have tried to bring capt back but haven't had much success.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 15:03:19
Raine on 08/20/2008 15:03:19
The AP is reporting that over 45 People have been killed in the Madrid Plane crash.
:(
:(
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 15:09:09
livingonli on 08/20/2008 15:09:09
Momma is such a klutz spilling wine on everyone.
Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 15:11:24
I see, I see.
Your Loyal TriSec here, aka "chopped liver".
:modbat:
:kickcan:
We will be providing a tasty and nutritious blog here every day during BOTH conventions and other moderator vacations and days off.
TriSec on 08/20/2008 15:11:24
Quote by livingonli:
The blog will be awfully quiet without Raine or BobR around. I have tried to bring capt back but haven't had much success.
I see, I see.
Your Loyal TriSec here, aka "chopped liver".
:modbat:
:kickcan:
We will be providing a tasty and nutritious blog here every day during BOTH conventions and other moderator vacations and days off.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 15:13:19
Yes, we will be having Faye and Shane filling in, and Random!
Raine on 08/20/2008 15:13:19
Quote by TriSec:Quote by livingonli:
The blog will be awfully quiet without Raine or BobR around. I have tried to bring capt back but haven't had much success.
I see, I see.
Your Loyal TriSec here, aka "chopped liver".
:modbat:
:kickcan:
We will be providing a tasty and nutritious blog here every day during BOTH conventions and other moderator vacations and days off.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 15:15:30
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 15:15:30
Tri :hug:
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 15:15:36
:hug: You just need to get out of that salt casing and join us more.
livingonli on 08/20/2008 15:15:36
Quote by TriSec:Quote by livingonli:
The blog will be awfully quiet without Raine or BobR around. I have tried to bring capt back but haven't had much success.
I see, I see.
Your Loyal TriSec here, aka "chopped liver".
:modbat:
:kickcan:
We will be providing a tasty and nutritious blog here every day during BOTH conventions and other moderator vacations and days off.
:hug: You just need to get out of that salt casing and join us more.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 15:16:32
Wow that story is a mess.
Raine on 08/20/2008 15:16:32
Quote by velveeta jones:
Gary Glitter finally comin' home? :lol:
And straight to prison!
Though he just had a (fake) 'heart attack' in the Thai airport that he has holed up in!
Wow that story is a mess.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:17:14
Scarves #97 Stuff White People Like
Morning 
I keed because I love. Morning all. My assignment today, tag renewal.
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:17:14
Quote by starling310:
Good morning my friends. :coffee2:
It is a delightfully crisp morning in the NorthEast. The sun is shining. I wore a light scarf during the drive in.
One question concerns your blog
Could the Jonas Brothers BE any more annoying?
Scarves #97 Stuff White People Like
Morning
I keed because I love. Morning all. My assignment today, tag renewal.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 15:18:29
What a revalation!!!! <---- I hate that Dan Abrams commercial with the heat of a thousand white hot lights.
Raine on 08/20/2008 15:18:29
Quote by starling310:
OMG! I just realized that Rachel will replace the exceedingly annoying Dan Abrahms!!!!!
Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 15:22:14
TriSec on 08/20/2008 15:22:14
Just skimming the news on that Spanish plane crash.
If I may don some av-dork foil for just a moment.
The destination of the plane was Las Palmas....if I may say so, more flights originating, transiting, or with a destination of the Canary Islands have come to grief than just about anywhere else on Earth (Including the ol' Bermuda Triangle).
So add another one.
And if there's any doubt, I've got one word for you: Tenerife.
If I may don some av-dork foil for just a moment.
The destination of the plane was Las Palmas....if I may say so, more flights originating, transiting, or with a destination of the Canary Islands have come to grief than just about anywhere else on Earth (Including the ol' Bermuda Triangle).
So add another one.
And if there's any doubt, I've got one word for you: Tenerife.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:22:54
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:22:54
Oh, modified rapture (ok theater geeks name the show) I, Mondo am no longer in the direct path of the storm of the century of the month
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 15:26:44
Raine on 08/20/2008 15:26:44
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 15:27:04
starling310 on 08/20/2008 15:27:04
Fish Head stockings?
Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 15:28:28
TriSec on 08/20/2008 15:28:28
I mentioned it yesterday...the weather boobs around here are characterizing the "Fay" storm as "Lots of rain, just a terrible situation for Florida"....but I saw in the Palm Beach Post yesterday that despite the minor damage, most folks are pretty happy they got so much rain, especially in the Lake Okeechobee watershed (in a multiyear drought...)
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:28:48
:rofl:
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:28:48
Quote by Raine:
:rofl:
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:31:15
Tri my local media hasn't even gotten into the usual bed wetting frenzy they are prone to in tropical weather situations. I think it is because they have doplar dual radar and they know how to use it! :rofl:
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:31:15
Quote by TriSec:
I mentioned it yesterday...the weather boobs around here are characterizing the "Fay" storm as "Lots of rain, just a terrible situation for Florida"....but I saw in the Palm Beach Post yesterday that despite the minor damage, most folks are pretty happy they got so much rain, especially in the Lake Okeechobee watershed (in a multiyear drought...)
Tri my local media hasn't even gotten into the usual bed wetting frenzy they are prone to in tropical weather situations. I think it is because they have doplar dual radar and they know how to use it! :rofl:
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 15:32:30
It's so true!
Last night I was wearing a t-shirt....and a scarf!
starling310 on 08/20/2008 15:32:30
Quote by Mondobubba:
Scarves #97 Stuff White People Like
Morning
It's so true!
Last night I was wearing a t-shirt....and a scarf!
Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 15:34:07
TriSec on 08/20/2008 15:34:07
Oh, and Mondo...your comment last night?
Rachel Maddow, the only anchor with an air wing!
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:36:35
:rofl: Star you know why white people like soccer? It is chance to buy another scarf! I have but one scarf, but it is a doozy. It is the kaffiyah! I think of it as the uber scarf. It is always in style and it makes a vague political statement.
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:36:35
Quote by starling310:Quote by Mondobubba:
Scarves #97 Stuff White People Like
Morning
It's so true!
Last night I was wearing a t-shirt....and a scarf!
:rofl: Star you know why white people like soccer? It is chance to buy another scarf! I have but one scarf, but it is a doozy. It is the kaffiyah! I think of it as the uber scarf. It is always in style and it makes a vague political statement.
Comment by BobR on 08/20/2008 15:36:50
It looks like you are still going to get buckets of rain coming in from the ocean...
BobR on 08/20/2008 15:36:50
Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh, modified rapture (ok theater geeks name the show) I, Mondo am no longer in the direct path of the storm of the century of the month
It looks like you are still going to get buckets of rain coming in from the ocean...
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:38:00
Thanks Tri. After your Hannity like list, it popped into my grape!
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:38:00
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, and Mondo...your comment last night?Rachel Maddow, the only anchor with an air wing!
Thanks Tri. After your Hannity like list, it popped into my grape!
Comment by BobR on 08/20/2008 15:38:27
I don't have a scarf (except the winter type), but I DO have a cravat...
:snooty:
BobR on 08/20/2008 15:38:27
Quote by Mondobubba:
:rofl: Star you know why white people like soccer? It is chance to buy another scarf! I have but one scarf, but it is a doozy. It is the kaffiyah! I think of it as the uber scarf. It is always in style and it makes a vague political statement.
I don't have a scarf (except the winter type), but I DO have a cravat...
:snooty:
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:40:06
I anticipate an ass-load of rain. And some wind. Hurricane party at Mondo's! Woohoo!
:puke:
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:40:06
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
Oh, modified rapture (ok theater geeks name the show) I, Mondo am no longer in the direct path of the storm of the century of the month
It looks like you are still going to get buckets of rain coming in from the ocean...
I anticipate an ass-load of rain. And some wind. Hurricane party at Mondo's! Woohoo!
:puke:
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:41:17
Do you wear that with your fancy pants, elitist?
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:41:17
Quote by BobR:Quote by Mondobubba:
:rofl: Star you know why white people like soccer? It is chance to buy another scarf! I have but one scarf, but it is a doozy. It is the kaffiyah! I think of it as the uber scarf. It is always in style and it makes a vague political statement.
I don't have a scarf (except the winter type), but I DO have a cravat...
:snooty:
Do you wear that with your fancy pants, elitist?
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 15:42:34
That put bad images in my mind.
Raine on 08/20/2008 15:42:34
Quote by starling310:
Fish Head stockings?
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 15:42:55
starling310 on 08/20/2008 15:42:55
1 of the women in my Improv Troupe and I decided that my next birthday party will be a "Bitch Slap Joe LIEberman" theme.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:43:58
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:43:58
So none of you theater geeks know my famous reference? You have never been to, been in etc any Gilbert and Sullivan. I know too dead white male for you. Anyway my little quote was from the "Mikado."
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 15:46:15
One scarf!? :: snooty :: Good Heavens!
I have many a fabulous scarf; winter weight, summer weight, thin ones, fat ones, colorful, bland. . .
Why, I am practically British!
starling310 on 08/20/2008 15:46:15
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Quote by Mondobubba:
Scarves #97 Stuff White People Like
Morning
It's so true!
Last night I was wearing a t-shirt....and a scarf!
:rofl: Star you know why white people like soccer? It is chance to buy another scarf! I have but one scarf, but it is a doozy. It is the kaffiyah! I think of it as the uber scarf. It is always in style and it makes a vague political statement.
One scarf!? :: snooty :: Good Heavens!
I have many a fabulous scarf; winter weight, summer weight, thin ones, fat ones, colorful, bland. . .
Why, I am practically British!
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 15:48:50
Raine on 08/20/2008 15:48:50
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 15:52:37
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 15:52:37
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:53:00
Mine is the uber scarf. It can be worn in any season. Two when I wear mine, I express my solidarity with the oppressed people of Palestine! Do any of your multitude do that? yeah I know you have one too.
BTW remember I live in Florida it is not scarf county, plus it is full of the wrong kind of white people.
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 15:53:00
Quote by starling310:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Quote by Mondobubba:
Scarves #97 Stuff White People Like
Morning
It's so true!
Last night I was wearing a t-shirt....and a scarf!
:rofl: Star you know why white people like soccer? It is chance to buy another scarf! I have but one scarf, but it is a doozy. It is the kaffiyah! I think of it as the uber scarf. It is always in style and it makes a vague political statement.
One scarf!? :: snooty :: Good Heavens!
I have many a fabulous scarf; winter weight, summer weight, thin ones, fat ones, colorful, bland. . .
Why, I am practically British!
Mine is the uber scarf. It can be worn in any season. Two when I wear mine, I express my solidarity with the oppressed people of Palestine! Do any of your multitude do that? yeah I know you have one too.
BTW remember I live in Florida it is not scarf county, plus it is full of the wrong kind of white people.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 15:54:12
How can a person only have 1 scarf? Not all scarves match all outfits :o
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 15:54:12
Quote by starling310:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Quote by Mondobubba:
Scarves #97 Stuff White People Like
Morning
It's so true!
Last night I was wearing a t-shirt....and a scarf!
:rofl: Star you know why white people like soccer? It is chance to buy another scarf! I have but one scarf, but it is a doozy. It is the kaffiyah! I think of it as the uber scarf. It is always in style and it makes a vague political statement.
One scarf!? :: snooty :: Good Heavens!
I have many a fabulous scarf; winter weight, summer weight, thin ones, fat ones, colorful, bland. . .
Why, I am practically British!
How can a person only have 1 scarf? Not all scarves match all outfits :o
Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/20/2008 15:58:59
Will in Chicago on 08/20/2008 15:58:59
Great post, BobR!!!
I hope that everyone is well today. For myself, I am pretty much ready to go except for a few details to take care of here. My truck was confirmed yesterday.
BobR, I should note that no dictatorship or tyrannical regime can exist without presenting an enemy as a justification for its measures. Of course, multiple internal and external enemies are often used to justify aggressive policies abroad and at home.
By the way, the UNN Daily Headlines are up.
I hope that everyone is well today. For myself, I am pretty much ready to go except for a few details to take care of here. My truck was confirmed yesterday.
BobR, I should note that no dictatorship or tyrannical regime can exist without presenting an enemy as a justification for its measures. Of course, multiple internal and external enemies are often used to justify aggressive policies abroad and at home.
By the way, the UNN Daily Headlines are up.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 16:01:33
Raine on 08/20/2008 16:01:33
So, will, it is official? you are moving to Pheonix?
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 16:01:45
:: gasp :: I could never live where I couldn't wear scarves.
I look forward to "sweater weather," which I may rename "scarf weather."
starling310 on 08/20/2008 16:01:45
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by starling310:Quote by Mondobubba:
Scarves #97 Stuff White People Like
Morning
It's so true!
Last night I was wearing a t-shirt....and a scarf!
:rofl: Star you know why white people like soccer? It is chance to buy another scarf! I have but one scarf, but it is a doozy. It is the kaffiyah! I think of it as the uber scarf. It is always in style and it makes a vague political statement.
One scarf!? :: snooty :: Good Heavens!
I have many a fabulous scarf; winter weight, summer weight, thin ones, fat ones, colorful, bland. . .
Why, I am practically British!
Mine is the uber scarf. It can be worn in any season. Two when I wear mine, I express my solidarity with the oppressed people of Palestine! Do any of your multitude do that? yeah I know you have one too.
BTW remember I live in Florida it is not scarf county, plus it is full of the wrong kind of white people.
:: gasp :: I could never live where I couldn't wear scarves.
I look forward to "sweater weather," which I may rename "scarf weather."
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 16:02:21
Raine on 08/20/2008 16:02:21
I can't WAIT for my BO TM!!!
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 16:07:28
This is looking more and more sad...
Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs- Jones has reportedly had a massive aneurysm and remains on life support Wednesday morning at Huron Road Hospital.
WOIO has confirmed that Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH-11) was admitted to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland after being found unconscious behind the wheel of her car. A spokesperson for Huron Hospital said that Tubbs-Jones was admitted to the hospital however her family doesn't want any information released about her condition.
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Raine on 08/20/2008 16:07:28
This is looking more and more sad...
Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs- Jones has reportedly had a massive aneurysm and remains on life support Wednesday morning at Huron Road Hospital.
WOIO has confirmed that Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH-11) was admitted to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland after being found unconscious behind the wheel of her car. A spokesperson for Huron Hospital said that Tubbs-Jones was admitted to the hospital however her family doesn't want any information released about her condition.
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Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 16:11:28
:cry:
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 16:11:28
Quote by Raine:
This is looking more and more sad...
Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs- Jones has reportedly had a massive aneurysm and remains on life support Wednesday morning at Huron Road Hospital.
WOIO has confirmed that Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH-11) was admitted to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland after being found unconscious behind the wheel of her car. A spokesperson for Huron Hospital said that Tubbs-Jones was admitted to the hospital however her family doesn't want any information released about her condition.
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:cry:
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 16:12:27
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 16:12:27
:rolleyes: dude I don't make any attempt to help my brothers (half and step) here.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 16:13:10
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 16:13:10
So, should I, Mondo get the Breast Cancer Awareness tag? Both my mother and mother-in-law are survivors.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 16:13:31
Raine on 08/20/2008 16:13:31
OK -- here we go with the Obama family in Kenya. This is a ridiculous argument. In the meantime, I have been reading about Cindy McCain walking around pretending that she doesn't have 2 half sisters.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 16:14:18
oh no!
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 16:14:18
Quote by Raine:
This is looking more and more sad...
Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs- Jones has reportedly had a massive aneurysm and remains on life support Wednesday morning at Huron Road Hospital.
WOIO has confirmed that Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH-11) was admitted to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland after being found unconscious behind the wheel of her car. A spokesperson for Huron Hospital said that Tubbs-Jones was admitted to the hospital however her family doesn't want any information released about her condition.
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oh no!
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 16:16:23
I don't see why not if you would like one.
Reminds me, I saw a great bumper sticker the other day - it was the pink ribbon and said "Save the Ta-Ta's"
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 16:16:23
Quote by Mondobubba:
So, should I, Mondo get the Breast Cancer Awareness tag? Both my mother and mother-in-law are survivors.
I don't see why not if you would like one.
Reminds me, I saw a great bumper sticker the other day - it was the pink ribbon and said "Save the Ta-Ta's"
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 16:17:35
:cry:
livingonli on 08/20/2008 16:17:35
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
This is looking more and more sad...
Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs- Jones has reportedly had a massive aneurysm and remains on life support Wednesday morning at Huron Road Hospital.
WOIO has confirmed that Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH-11) was admitted to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland after being found unconscious behind the wheel of her car. A spokesperson for Huron Hospital said that Tubbs-Jones was admitted to the hospital however her family doesn't want any information released about her condition.
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oh no!
:cry:
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 16:18:37
There is a woman in my office parking lot that has that. I chuckle every morning when I pass her car!
starling310 on 08/20/2008 16:18:37
Quote by wickedpam:
Reminds me, I saw a great bumper sticker the other day - it was the pink ribbon and said "Save the Ta-Ta's"
There is a woman in my office parking lot that has that. I chuckle every morning when I pass her car!
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 16:18:41
It's that whole Americanocentrist assumption that somehow, we should assume that becuase they live in a place like Kenya, we should help them out.
Ridiculous. Obama never even knew the guy exisited, and like his grandmother... Who is to say he WANTS help? Arrogant.
And yeah... under certain circumstances, no way in hell would I help.
Raine on 08/20/2008 16:18:41
Quote by wickedpam:
:rolleyes: dude I don't make any attempt to help my brothers (half and step) here.
It's that whole Americanocentrist assumption that somehow, we should assume that becuase they live in a place like Kenya, we should help them out.
Ridiculous. Obama never even knew the guy exisited, and like his grandmother... Who is to say he WANTS help? Arrogant.
And yeah... under certain circumstances, no way in hell would I help.
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 16:19:25
As a person that has survived a burst blood aneurysm, I will definitely be praying for her. She may have a long road ahead.
:(
velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 16:19:25
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
This is looking more and more sad...
Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs- Jones has reportedly had a massive aneurysm and remains on life support Wednesday morning at Huron Road Hospital.
WOIO has confirmed that Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH-11) was admitted to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland after being found unconscious behind the wheel of her car. A spokesperson for Huron Hospital said that Tubbs-Jones was admitted to the hospital however her family doesn't want any information released about her condition.
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oh no!
As a person that has survived a burst blood aneurysm, I will definitely be praying for her. She may have a long road ahead.
:(
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 16:19:31
Funniest bumper sticker evah! I've seen many. I want to get one for my mom and MiL
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 16:19:31
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Mondobubba:
So, should I, Mondo get the Breast Cancer Awareness tag? Both my mother and mother-in-law are survivors.
I don't see why not if you would like one.
Reminds me, I saw a great bumper sticker the other day - it was the pink ribbon and said "Save the Ta-Ta's"
Funniest bumper sticker evah! I've seen many. I want to get one for my mom and MiL
Comment by BobR on 08/20/2008 16:21:48
oh that is so sad... :(
She will be missed in the halls of Congress. My inner tinfoil wants to see some nefarious plot here, but that's probably just me trying to find a reason for this random act of nature...
BobR on 08/20/2008 16:21:48
Quote by Raine:
This is looking more and more sad...
Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs- Jones has reportedly had a massive aneurysm and remains on life support Wednesday morning at Huron Road Hospital.
WOIO has confirmed that Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH-11) was admitted to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland after being found unconscious behind the wheel of her car. A spokesperson for Huron Hospital said that Tubbs-Jones was admitted to the hospital however her family doesn't want any information released about her condition.
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oh that is so sad... :(
She will be missed in the halls of Congress. My inner tinfoil wants to see some nefarious plot here, but that's probably just me trying to find a reason for this random act of nature...
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 16:22:03
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 16:22:03
I am off to tax collectors office. They handle the tags. Long book, check! Money for the coke mosheen, check. Proof of insurance, check! I am outta here for now. I will check in.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 16:23:17
Raine on 08/20/2008 16:23:17
:banana: Thom with the HipHop 
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 16:23:55
Raine on 08/20/2008 16:23:55
Later Mondo! God speed!
Comment by BobR on 08/20/2008 16:24:42
I saw that one for the first time just the other day. I thought it was great!
Mondo - get the plate, if it speaks to you. I have a "spay your pets" plate, and the ex's car used to have a "save the wildlife" tag.
So I guess that means you're not going to get the "Choose Life" tag? :puke:
BobR on 08/20/2008 16:24:42
Quote by wickedpam:
I don't see why not if you would like one.
Reminds me, I saw a great bumper sticker the other day - it was the pink ribbon and said "Save the Ta-Ta's"
I saw that one for the first time just the other day. I thought it was great!
Mondo - get the plate, if it speaks to you. I have a "spay your pets" plate, and the ex's car used to have a "save the wildlife" tag.
So I guess that means you're not going to get the "Choose Life" tag? :puke:
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 16:26:01
Ellen Degeneres is my half sister and I haven't seen a dime!
Raine incidentally, as my twin separated at birth, you are entiteld to some help. I put a check for a dollar in the mail. I hope it gets to you.
starling310 on 08/20/2008 16:26:01
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
:rolleyes: dude I don't make any attempt to help my brothers (half and step) here.
It's that whole Americanocentrist assumption that somehow, we should assume that becuase they live in a place like Kenya, we should help them out.
Ridiculous. Obama never even knew the guy exisited, and like his grandmother... Who is to say he WANTS help? Arrogant.
And yeah... under certain circumstances, no way in hell would I help.
Ellen Degeneres is my half sister and I haven't seen a dime!
Raine
incidentally, as my twin separated at birth, you are entiteld to some help. I put a check for a dollar in the mail. I hope it gets to you.
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 16:27:53
It is a bit "Silkwood" what with the car veering off the road.
starling310 on 08/20/2008 16:27:53
Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
This is looking more and more sad...
Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs- Jones has reportedly had a massive aneurysm and remains on life support Wednesday morning at Huron Road Hospital.
WOIO has confirmed that Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH-11) was admitted to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland after being found unconscious behind the wheel of her car. A spokesperson for Huron Hospital said that Tubbs-Jones was admitted to the hospital however her family doesn't want any information released about her condition.
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oh that is so sad... :(
She will be missed in the halls of Congress. My inner tinfoil wants to see some nefarious plot here, but that's probably just me trying to find a reason for this random act of nature...
It is a bit "Silkwood" what with the car veering off the road.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 16:30:56
Seriously! How cool is that. B)
I didn't know I had any brothers till I was in my I guess about 30. And seeing that he (my half) got to do all the things I was supposed to be able to do and couldn't, they should be helping their big sister.
and yes I am bitter
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 16:30:56
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
:rolleyes: dude I don't make any attempt to help my brothers (half and step) here.
It's that whole Americanocentrist assumption that somehow, we should assume that becuase they live in a place like Kenya, we should help them out.
Ridiculous. Obama never even knew the guy exisited, and like his grandmother... Who is to say he WANTS help? Arrogant.
And yeah... under certain circumstances, no way in hell would I help.
Ellen Degeneres is my half sister and I haven't seen a dime!
Raine
Seriously! How cool is that. B)
I didn't know I had any brothers till I was in my I guess about 30. And seeing that he (my half) got to do all the things I was supposed to be able to do and couldn't, they should be helping their big sister.
and yes I am bitter
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 16:32:42
It does sound really strange though doesn't it. I mean Feinstein breaks her ankle, Jones ends up on life support, what the hell is happening? Its just too odd
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 16:32:42
Quote by starling310:Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
This is looking more and more sad...
Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs- Jones has reportedly had a massive aneurysm and remains on life support Wednesday morning at Huron Road Hospital.
WOIO has confirmed that Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH-11) was admitted to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland after being found unconscious behind the wheel of her car. A spokesperson for Huron Hospital said that Tubbs-Jones was admitted to the hospital however her family doesn't want any information released about her condition.
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oh that is so sad... :(
She will be missed in the halls of Congress. My inner tinfoil wants to see some nefarious plot here, but that's probably just me trying to find a reason for this random act of nature...
It is a bit "Silkwood" what with the car veering off the road.
It does sound really strange though doesn't it. I mean Feinstein breaks her ankle, Jones ends up on life support, what the hell is happening? Its just too odd
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 16:35:29
livingonli on 08/20/2008 16:35:29
CNN+ in Spain is now saying over 90 dead in that plane crash. Only 26 survived.
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 16:36:03
starling310 on 08/20/2008 16:36:03
Quote by wickedpam:
Seriously! How cool is that. B)
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 16:37:07
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 16:37:07
DCRTV
Notable Quotable - 8/20 - "He's the mayonnaise on a peanut butter and jelly sandwich." A Washington radio programmer on Fox News superstar Bill O'Reilly. And his failure to generate any ratings on local radio.....
Notable Quotable - 8/20 - "He's the mayonnaise on a peanut butter and jelly sandwich." A Washington radio programmer on Fox News superstar Bill O'Reilly. And his failure to generate any ratings on local radio.....
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 08/20/2008 16:37:32
Actually had to have the heater running in the car this morning. Got a hunk of Rt128 in the eye this morning because they're in the process of resurfacing and just did the "grooving" and pieces are still being kicked up by the passing cars & trucks. Looks like a big cloud of fog.
trojanrabbit on 08/20/2008 16:37:32
Quote by starling310:
Good morning my friends. :coffee2:
It is a delightfully crisp morning in the NorthEast. The sun is shining. I wore a light scarf during the drive in.
One question concerns your blog
Could the Jonas Brothers BE any more annoying?
Actually had to have the heater running in the car this morning. Got a hunk of Rt128 in the eye this morning because they're in the process of resurfacing and just did the "grooving" and pieces are still being kicked up by the passing cars & trucks. Looks like a big cloud of fog.
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 16:37:40
Part of me has my
hat on.
livingonli on 08/20/2008 16:37:40
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
This is looking more and more sad...
Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs- Jones has reportedly had a massive aneurysm and remains on life support Wednesday morning at Huron Road Hospital.
WOIO has confirmed that Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH-11) was admitted to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland after being found unconscious behind the wheel of her car. A spokesperson for Huron Hospital said that Tubbs-Jones was admitted to the hospital however her family doesn't want any information released about her condition.
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oh that is so sad... :(
She will be missed in the halls of Congress. My inner tinfoil wants to see some nefarious plot here, but that's probably just me trying to find a reason for this random act of nature...
It is a bit "Silkwood" what with the car veering off the road.
It does sound really strange though doesn't it. I mean Feinstein breaks her ankle, Jones ends up on life support, what the hell is happening? Its just too odd
Part of me has my
hat on.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 16:42:47
I just read a report saying that they fear 150 are dead.
So sad.
Raine on 08/20/2008 16:42:47
Quote by livingonli:
CNN+ in Spain is now saying over 90 dead in that plane crash. Only 26 survived.
I just read a report saying that they fear 150 are dead.
So sad.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 16:43:27
Raine on 08/20/2008 16:43:27
Did this caller say that you Did I just hear this caller say that you should take the incentive away for being healthy?
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 16:45:09
Let us not forget Senator Kennedy.
Raine on 08/20/2008 16:45:09
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310:Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
This is looking more and more sad...
Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs- Jones has reportedly had a massive aneurysm and remains on life support Wednesday morning at Huron Road Hospital.
WOIO has confirmed that Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH-11) was admitted to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland after being found unconscious behind the wheel of her car. A spokesperson for Huron Hospital said that Tubbs-Jones was admitted to the hospital however her family doesn't want any information released about her condition.
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oh that is so sad... :(
She will be missed in the halls of Congress. My inner tinfoil wants to see some nefarious plot here, but that's probably just me trying to find a reason for this random act of nature...
It is a bit "Silkwood" what with the car veering off the road.
It does sound really strange though doesn't it. I mean Feinstein breaks her ankle, Jones ends up on life support, what the hell is happening? Its just too odd
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 16:50:13
livingonli on 08/20/2008 16:50:13
I better go to the store before I head to work.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 17:08:41
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 17:08:41
I declare the Jacksonville government to be pussies! There was a hastily hand written note on the tax collector's office door saying they are closed due to severe weather. Umm as of the most recent NOAA bulletin, the severe weather is approximately 200 miles south/southeast of Jacksonville, moving North at an alarming three miles an hour. Given the current model, it will take at least about 30 more hours for this thing to be near enough for it to be interfering with the people's business! :grumble: :grumble:
:grumble: :grumble:
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 17:12:25
Swerving off the road is generally a side effect of having a blood vessel in your brain explode. Strokes are like that. As far as Fienstein begging of the convention because of sprained ankle, that must be one wicked sprain, Diane.
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 17:12:25
Quote by starling310:Quote by BobR:Quote by Raine:
This is looking more and more sad...
Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs- Jones has reportedly had a massive aneurysm and remains on life support Wednesday morning at Huron Road Hospital.
WOIO has confirmed that Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH-11) was admitted to Huron Hospital in East Cleveland after being found unconscious behind the wheel of her car. A spokesperson for Huron Hospital said that Tubbs-Jones was admitted to the hospital however her family doesn't want any information released about her condition.
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oh that is so sad... :(
She will be missed in the halls of Congress. My inner tinfoil wants to see some nefarious plot here, but that's probably just me trying to find a reason for this random act of nature...
It is a bit "Silkwood" what with the car veering off the road.
Swerving off the road is generally a side effect of having a blood vessel in your brain explode. Strokes are like that. As far as Fienstein begging of the convention because of sprained ankle, that must be one wicked sprain, Diane.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 17:18:31
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 17:18:31
A wee too large for the bloggie. A photo of the famous Blizzard of '89. It closed Jacksonville down.
Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 17:19:48
TriSec on 08/20/2008 17:19:48
Heh.
The Mass registry is like Dave's Lounge....they're always open.
God forbid that Taxachusetts would miss a day of revenue!
The Mass registry is like Dave's Lounge....they're always open.
God forbid that Taxachusetts would miss a day of revenue!
Comment by Random on 08/20/2008 17:23:45
Now, you know that just inflates my ego.
Note to self: stop searching page for my name.
Random on 08/20/2008 17:23:45
Quote by Raine:Yes, we will be having Faye and Shane filling in, and Random!Quote by TriSec:Quote by livingonli:
The blog will be awfully quiet without Raine or BobR around. I have tried to bring capt back but haven't had much success.
I see, I see.
Your Loyal TriSec here, aka "chopped liver".
:modbat:
:kickcan:
We will be providing a tasty and nutritious blog here every day during BOTH conventions and other moderator vacations and days off.
Now, you know that just inflates my ego.
Note to self: stop searching page for my name.
Comment by Random on 08/20/2008 17:37:20
Random on 08/20/2008 17:37:20
Random has question for the people who know more than him...basically everybody here.
Who is John Agar?
Who is John Agar?
Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 17:37:34
TriSec on 08/20/2008 17:37:34
Well, that can't go unanswered...
Here's Route 128, some five days after the Blizzard of 1978.
Here's Route 128, some five days after the Blizzard of 1978.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/20/2008 17:45:45
trojanrabbit on 08/20/2008 17:45:45
And I remember Don Kent saying as I was boarding the train in the morning - "if we got 2 inches out of this thing we'd be lucky" - well, I guess that can be right no matter how you look at it.
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 18:09:05
starling310 on 08/20/2008 18:09:05
I just watched the Rachel clip with KO!
I think it WAS KO who suggested it!
I think it WAS KO who suggested it!
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 18:09:45
Are you irony impaired today Tri? I was totally going for humor and commenting on the overly cautious nature of the civil authority here. I wouldn't surprised if, tomorrow all the bridges here are closed due to high winds. That will effectively close down the city. That would be six bridges over the might north flowing Saint Johns.
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 18:09:45
Quote by TriSec:
Well, that can't go unanswered...
Here's Route 128, some five days after the Blizzard of 1978.
Are you irony impaired today Tri? I was totally going for humor and commenting on the overly cautious nature of the civil authority here. I wouldn't surprised if, tomorrow all the bridges here are closed due to high winds. That will effectively close down the city. That would be six bridges over the might north flowing Saint Johns.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 18:11:22
Raine on 08/20/2008 18:11:22
Stephanie Tubbs Jones has passed away. 
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 18:12:08
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 18:12:08
Speaking of the Blizzard of 78, that was storm so strong and big it dropped almost 2 feet o' snow on the DC metro area. : strokes gray beard, rocks in bentwood rocker, adjusts afgan wrapped around legs and waist :
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 18:12:16
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 18:12:16
Holy crap! :cry:
thoughts and prayers to the Tubb-Jones family
thoughts and prayers to the Tubb-Jones family
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 18:14:58
Oh man! She will be missed.
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 18:14:58
Quote by Raine:
Stephanie Tubbs Jones has passed away.
Oh man!
She will be missed.
Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/20/2008 18:17:33
This is sad news indeed. I just posted this at UNN, and will share it with the board. Here is the story from the Cleveland Plain-Dealer.
Stephanie Tubbs Jones, a veteran Ohio Congresswoman, has died after suffering a brain aneurysm, according to reports from the Cleveland Plain-Dealer and CNN. I feel very sorry for her friends and family, as she was taken from them so soon.
Here is the story from the Cleveland Plain-Dealer.
It is hard ot lose someone suddenly. I hope that her family and friends will be comforted in this dark hour. May they remember and be shown in their grief that there also is love in the world.
Will in Chicago on 08/20/2008 18:17:33
Quote by Raine:
Stephanie Tubbs Jones has passed away.
This is sad news indeed. I just posted this at UNN, and will share it with the board. Here is the story from the Cleveland Plain-Dealer.
Stephanie Tubbs Jones, a veteran Ohio Congresswoman, has died after suffering a brain aneurysm, according to reports from the Cleveland Plain-Dealer and CNN. I feel very sorry for her friends and family, as she was taken from them so soon.
Here is the story from the Cleveland Plain-Dealer.
Stephanie Tubbs Jones has died, sources say
Posted by Plain Dealer Staff August 20, 2008 13:49PM
Categories: Breaking News
U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, the first African-American woman to represent Ohio in Congress, has died after suffering a brain aneurysm, said sources familiar with the situation.
She was removed from life support at 12:19 p.m. at Huron Road Hospital, the sources said.
Tubbs Jones, 58, served as a Cuyahoga County judge and prosecutor before succeeding U.S. Rep. Louis Stokes. She has served five terms in Congress and was expected to easily win her sixth in November.
The mood of supporters around noon was somber. Cleveland Councilman Roosevelt Coats was seen sobbing outside the hospital. He said Tubbs Jones was unconscious and her friends and relatives were preparing for the worst.
It is hard ot lose someone suddenly. I hope that her family and friends will be comforted in this dark hour. May they remember and be shown in their grief that there also is love in the world.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 18:22:57
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 18:22:57
Back to foul weather for a moment, to be fair to the Civil Authorities here two of the bridges here; the Hart and the Matthews used to have these long expansion sections that were honeycomb steal. Bery, bery slippery when slightly damp. Or dry even. Since these two and the lovely Dames Point bridge are very high up, having them open in high winds would be...bad, Ray.
After a few really spectacularly horrifying accidents where cars and drivers lost control and plunged into the river they redid the steal sections on the Matthews with some sorta concrete sheeting stuff.
After a few really spectacularly horrifying accidents where cars and drivers lost control and plunged into the river they redid the steal sections on the Matthews with some sorta concrete sheeting stuff.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 18:23:09
Raine on 08/20/2008 18:23:09
What a sad day.
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 18:24:18
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 18:24:18
I hate those damn steel inserts on bridges, especially the drawbridges.
Comment by BobR on 08/20/2008 18:26:00
well - Rachel is a guest on Thom Hartmann right now, so now's the time for us to find out....
blahlhosadsdkfogfoijj
yep - I guess so...
BobR on 08/20/2008 18:26:00
Quote by TriSec:
If Thom Hartmann was a guest on Rachel Maddow's new show, would their combined IQ immediately render the rest of us babbling imbeciles?
well - Rachel is a guest on Thom Hartmann right now, so now's the time for us to find out....
blahlhosadsdkfogfoijj
yep - I guess so...
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 18:27:33
Raine on 08/20/2008 18:27:33
Listening to Rach, and she is correct... 4 years ago, KO was NOT as left as he is today. HE was, however, always wonderfully fresh and intelligent.
I do however... miss stick puppet theatre.
I do however... miss stick puppet theatre.
Comment by BobR on 08/20/2008 18:27:50
Fixxity....
:adjusts glasses, light pipe, and settles into wing-back chair:
BobR on 08/20/2008 18:27:50
Quote by Mondobubba:
Back to foul weather for a moment, to be fair to the Civil Authorities here two of the bridges here; the Hart and the Matthews used to have these long expansion sections that were honeycomb steel. Bery, bery slippery when slightly damp. Or dry even. Since these two and the lovely Dames Point bridge are very high up, having them open in high winds would be...bad, Ray.
After a few really spectacularly horrifying accidents where cars and drivers lost control and plunged into the river they redid the steel sections on the Matthews with some sorta concrete sheeting stuff.
Fixxity....
:adjusts glasses, light pipe, and settles into wing-back chair:
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 18:27:55
starling310 on 08/20/2008 18:27:55
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
If Thom Hartmann was a guest on Rachel Maddow's new show, would their combined IQ immediately render the rest of us babbling imbeciles?
well - Rachel is a guest on Thom Hartmann right now, so now's the time for us to find out....
blahlhosadsdkfogfoijj
yep - I guess so...
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 18:29:03
starling310 on 08/20/2008 18:29:03
Man, sad news about Tubbs-Jones.
Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 18:36:26
TriSec on 08/20/2008 18:36:26
Double Oh, Dear...
Regarding the bridges, I was once on the Tobin Bridge in a blizzard (a good 150 feet over the Mystic River)....we lost traction briefly and were blown sideways for a second, but recovered. I can't imagine anyone getting blown over the side, Donde Los Yikes!
No real comment on the Representative from Ohio....damn.
:kickcan:
Regarding the bridges, I was once on the Tobin Bridge in a blizzard (a good 150 feet over the Mystic River)....we lost traction briefly and were blown sideways for a second, but recovered. I can't imagine anyone getting blown over the side, Donde Los Yikes!
No real comment on the Representative from Ohio....damn.
:kickcan:
Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 18:47:13
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 18:47:13
Thom just said she's still alive! Oh I hope that's true for her family's sake. :pray:
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 18:51:16
Hope what Thom said is correct. But, we do need some good news around here.
livingonli on 08/20/2008 18:51:16
Quote by starling310:
Man, sad news about Tubbs-Jones.
Hope what Thom said is correct. But, we do need some good news around here.
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 18:53:02
If Thom is correct, the Media needs a smack with a tack hammer. Seriously! We should not be reporting people dead if they're not.
Oi!
starling310 on 08/20/2008 18:53:02
Quote by livingonli:Quote by starling310:
Man, sad news about Tubbs-Jones.
Hope what Thom said is correct. But, we do need some good news around here.
If Thom is correct, the Media needs a smack with a tack hammer. Seriously! We should not be reporting people dead if they're not.
Oi!
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Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 19:05:18
livingonli on 08/20/2008 19:05:18
And now it's time to head off to the salt mine. It sucks that I can't listen to Thom past the first hour in the car. At least I can listen to Randi.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 19:08:43
Raine on 08/20/2008 19:08:43
ok... so not to be morbid, but is she or is she not dead?
CNN reported that she is off life support and has very limited brain function.
CNN reported that she is off life support and has very limited brain function.
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not sure at this moment
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 19:10:53
Quote by Raine:
ok... so not to be morbid, but is she or is she not dead?
CNN reported that she is off life support and has very limited brain function.
not sure at this moment
Comment by 
Scoopster on 08/20/2008 19:17:54
Scoopster on 08/20/2008 19:17:54
:grumble: CNN is stretching the story to get an extra couple hours of the news cycle out of it. Damn sensationalists.
Oh.. hi there! I see today we're not so much in a salt mine as we are in a snowbank?
Oh.. hi there!
I see today we're not so much in a salt mine as we are in a snowbank?
Comment by starling310 on 08/20/2008 19:18:07
I will reiterate my opinion that the Media really should be sure before reporting anything further.
starling310 on 08/20/2008 19:18:07
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
ok... so not to be morbid, but is she or is she not dead?
CNN reported that she is off life support and has very limited brain function.
not sure at this moment
I will reiterate my opinion that the Media really should be sure before reporting anything further.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 19:18:28
Raine on 08/20/2008 19:18:28
Randi is on a roll today.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 19:19:53
This is damn irresponsible of ALL the media. I usually check for 2 sources (usually) and this time I did check.
asshats.
Raine on 08/20/2008 19:19:53
Quote by starling310:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
ok... so not to be morbid, but is she or is she not dead?
CNN reported that she is off life support and has very limited brain function.
not sure at this moment
I will reiterate my opinion that the Media really should be sure before reporting anything further.
asshats.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 19:20:38
Raine on 08/20/2008 19:20:38
Heya Scoop!
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Comment by Random on 08/20/2008 19:49:52
Random on 08/20/2008 19:49:52
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Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 19:52:11
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wickedpam on 08/20/2008 19:52:11
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Comment by wickedpam on 08/20/2008 19:53:15
wickedpam on 08/20/2008 19:53:15
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Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 19:57:42
Given the amount of halite poured on road in winter in northern climes it could be a salt bank. I'm just sayin! :shrug:
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 19:57:42
Quote by Scoopster:
:grumble: CNN is stretching the story to get an extra couple hours of the news cycle out of it. Damn sensationalists.
Oh.. hi there!
Given the amount of halite poured on road in winter in northern climes it could be a salt bank. I'm just sayin! :shrug:
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 20:00:28
Mondobubba on 08/20/2008 20:00:28
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Random on 08/20/2008 20:02:45
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Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 20:04:15
So there it is. John McCain will institute a draft, since that is the reason why we didn't get Osama.
This should be passed on to anyone draft age now, or who will be in the next few years.
Raine on 08/20/2008 20:04:15
So there it is. John McCain will institute a draft, since that is the reason why we didn't get Osama.
This should be passed on to anyone draft age now, or who will be in the next few years.
Comment by Random on 08/20/2008 20:07:27
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Random on 08/20/2008 20:07:27
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Comment by Random on 08/20/2008 20:10:03
Where is draft mentioned?
Random on 08/20/2008 20:10:03
Quote by Raine:
So there it is. John McCain will institute a draft, since that is the reason why we didn't get Osama.
This should be passed on to anyone draft age now, or who will be in the next few years.
Where is draft mentioned?
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 20:18:23
Raine on 08/20/2008 20:18:23
Random... listen again:
Woman asking question: If we don't reenact the draft I don't think we will have anyone to chase Bin Laden to the gates of hell.
JOHN MCCAIN: Ma'am let me say that I don't disagree with anything you said and thank you and I am grateful for your support of all of our veterans.
Woman asking question: If we don't reenact the draft I don't think we will have anyone to chase Bin Laden to the gates of hell.
JOHN MCCAIN: Ma'am let me say that I don't disagree with anything you said and thank you and I am grateful for your support of all of our veterans.
Comment by Random on 08/20/2008 20:19:27
Random on 08/20/2008 20:19:27
Okay...i heard it.
It sounds like a woman older the McCain and twice as senile. she's allover the place and mentioning the draft from left field.
As far as that goes, Random refuses to be drafted.
It sounds like a woman older the McCain and twice as senile. she's allover the place and mentioning the draft from left field.
As far as that goes, Random refuses to be drafted.
Comment by TriSec on 08/20/2008 20:19:50
TriSec on 08/20/2008 20:19:50
Globe says not deceased
EAST CLEVELAND, Ohio—Democratic U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, the first black woman to represent Ohio in Congress, had a brain hemorrhage and was in critical condition with limited brain function, a doctor said Wednesday.
Tubbs Jones, 58, suffered the hemorrhage while driving her car in Cleveland Heights on Tuesday, said Dr. Gus Kious, president of Huron Hospital in East Cleveland. The congresswoman had been driving erratically and her vehicle crossed lanes of traffic before coming to a stop, police said.
Tubbs Jones "collapsed when she suffered a very serious brain hemorrhage caused by an aneurysm that burst in an inaccessible part of her brain," Kious said during a news conference. A team of doctors who evaluated her determined she has limited brain function.
*snip*
Several news organizations, including The Associated Press, had earlier reported that Tubbs Jones had died. The AP cited a Democratic official.
The reports prompted Sen. John Kerry to issue a statement mourning her passing.
EAST CLEVELAND, Ohio—Democratic U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, the first black woman to represent Ohio in Congress, had a brain hemorrhage and was in critical condition with limited brain function, a doctor said Wednesday.
Tubbs Jones, 58, suffered the hemorrhage while driving her car in Cleveland Heights on Tuesday, said Dr. Gus Kious, president of Huron Hospital in East Cleveland. The congresswoman had been driving erratically and her vehicle crossed lanes of traffic before coming to a stop, police said.
Tubbs Jones "collapsed when she suffered a very serious brain hemorrhage caused by an aneurysm that burst in an inaccessible part of her brain," Kious said during a news conference. A team of doctors who evaluated her determined she has limited brain function.
*snip*
Several news organizations, including The Associated Press, had earlier reported that Tubbs Jones had died. The AP cited a Democratic official.
The reports prompted Sen. John Kerry to issue a statement mourning her passing.
Comment by Random on 08/20/2008 20:21:03
That coming off the ignorant statement that illegal "aliens" get top quality medical care. She's nuts, can't really get pissy about McCain just brushing it off with a blanket, i agree statement.
Random on 08/20/2008 20:21:03
Quote by Raine:
Random... listen again:
Woman asking question: If we don't reenact the draft I don't think we will have anyone to chase Bin Laden to the gates of hell.
JOHN MCCAIN: Ma'am let me say that I don't disagree with anything you said and thank you and I am grateful for your support of all of our veterans.
That coming off the ignorant statement that illegal "aliens" get top quality medical care. She's nuts, can't really get pissy about McCain just brushing it off with a blanket, i agree statement.
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 20:29:55
velveeta jones on 08/20/2008 20:29:55
Don't know if Tubbs-Jones has passed or not. But one of Auntie's dancers is about to pass away and she's quite sad. Cubie Burke.
Here's an old (crappy video) of him dancing for her. :(
Here's an old (crappy video) of him dancing for her. :(
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 20:38:30
Bold face mine. THAT is bullshite.
CNN reported that it was a staffer who leaked it.
I suspect said staffer will be out of a job.
The AP is very very much letting thier bias show with this one and that statement REALLY pisses me off. They are blaming the DEMS for this lack of responsible reporting?!?!?!
Raine on 08/20/2008 20:38:30
Quote by TriSec:
Globe says not deceased
EAST CLEVELAND, Ohio—Democratic U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, the first black woman to represent Ohio in Congress, had a brain hemorrhage and was in critical condition with limited brain function, a doctor said Wednesday.
Tubbs Jones, 58, suffered the hemorrhage while driving her car in Cleveland Heights on Tuesday, said Dr. Gus Kious, president of Huron Hospital in East Cleveland. The congresswoman had been driving erratically and her vehicle crossed lanes of traffic before coming to a stop, police said.
Tubbs Jones "collapsed when she suffered a very serious brain hemorrhage caused by an aneurysm that burst in an inaccessible part of her brain," Kious said during a news conference. A team of doctors who evaluated her determined she has limited brain function.
*snip*
Several news organizations, including The Associated Press, had earlier reported that Tubbs Jones had died. The AP cited a Democratic official.
The reports prompted Sen. John Kerry to issue a statement mourning her passing.
CNN reported that it was a staffer who leaked it.
I suspect said staffer will be out of a job.
The AP is very very much letting thier bias show with this one and that statement REALLY pisses me off. They are blaming the DEMS for this lack of responsible reporting?!?!?!
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 20:40:00
That was beautiful. I am so sorry to hear this news.
Goes to light a second candle of the day.
Raine on 08/20/2008 20:40:00
Quote by velveeta jones:
Don't know if Tubbs-Jones has passed or not. But one of Auntie's dancers is about to pass away and she's quite sad. Cubie Burke.
Here's an old (crappy video) of him dancing for her. :(
Goes to light a second candle of the day.
Comment by Raine on 08/20/2008 20:46:51
Raine on 08/20/2008 20:46:51
Comment by Random on 08/20/2008 20:47:39
can't stop looking at emoticon....
Random on 08/20/2008 20:47:39
Quote by Raine:
can't stop looking at emoticon....
Comment by livingonli on 08/20/2008 21:08:03
After all his campaign worked out so well. I guess they could just as easily run a tape loop of him saying 9-11 over and over again.
livingonli on 08/20/2008 21:08:03
Quote by Raine:
Ghouliani to be keynote Speaker at RNCC.
That pretty much Rules him out as VP, huh?
After all his campaign worked out so well. I guess they could just as easily run a tape loop of him saying 9-11 over and over again.
Comment by Random on 08/20/2008 21:11:33
In response to the question of how old John McCain is, Ghouliani said: 911.
Random on 08/20/2008 21:11:33
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Raine:
Ghouliani to be keynote Speaker at RNCC.
That pretty much Rules him out as VP, huh?
After all his campaign worked out so well. I guess they could just as easily run a tape loop of him saying 9-11 over and over again.
In response to the question of how old John McCain is, Ghouliani said: 911.
Comment by MMB on 08/20/2008 21:21:49
MMB on 08/20/2008 21:21:49
It was all over the local channels about state and local offices being closed even school's and i don't have a child in school. I think we should all go have a diving contest off the Matthews and Hart bridge it's a great view!!!!! 
Comment by clintster on 08/20/2008 22:05:36
clintster on 08/20/2008 22:05:36
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Comment by clintster on 08/20/2008 22:09:47
Mondo, had I been here at the time, I'd'a gotten it like that. I know, easy for me to say, right? But still...
clintster on 08/20/2008 22:09:47
Quote by Mondobubba:
So none of you theater geeks know my famous reference? You have never been to, been in etc any Gilbert and Sullivan. I know too dead white male for you. Anyway my little quote was from the "Mikado."
Mondo, had I been here at the time, I'd'a gotten it like that. I know, easy for me to say, right? But still...
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 00:03:33
Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 00:03:33
Rush in Worsts for dumping on Dr Maddow. :modbat:
Comment by livingonli on 08/21/2008 00:26:10
Rush is just jealous because he is a man with no class. I just want to go down to W. Palm Beach and see if he would pop like a balloon. Than again, look at the crap he said about Elizabeth Edwards. 
livingonli on 08/21/2008 00:26:10
Quote by Mondobubba:
Rush in Worsts for dumping on Dr Maddow. :modbat:
Rush is just jealous because he is a man with no class. I just want to go down to W. Palm Beach and see if he would pop like a balloon. Than again, look at the crap he said about Elizabeth Edwards.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 00:34:17
Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 00:34:17
Ha! I scooped you KO! I had the blog Oddball story about the monkey hours ago!
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/21/2008 00:36:07
velveeta jones on 08/21/2008 00:36:07
Back home, just in time for the top of KO!!
Thank you Raine for monitoring the BO,TM chain! ;)
Thank you Raine for monitoring the BO,TM chain! ;)
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 00:37:52
Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 00:37:52
Friggin Comcrap is at it again. Asshats. You don't like bandwidth hogs, increase your available bandwidth. Simple.
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/21/2008 00:38:50
Maybe he reads 4F!
:clap:
velveeta jones on 08/21/2008 00:38:50
Quote by Mondobubba:
Ha! I scooped you KO! I had the blog Oddball story about the monkey hours ago!
Maybe he reads 4F!
:clap:
Comment by velveeta jones on 08/21/2008 00:41:07
velveeta jones on 08/21/2008 00:41:07
"ah, Ma'am, you do realize that 'the gates of hell' is just a figure of speech, right?" :blink:
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 00:49:43
Wouldn't that be the da bomb! Hey KO we know you are out there lurking. Show your face, we won't fawn all over you.
Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 00:49:43
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Mondobubba:
Ha! I scooped you KO! I had the blog Oddball story about the monkey hours ago!
Maybe he reads 4F!
:clap:
Wouldn't that be the da bomb! Hey KO we know you are out there lurking. Show your face, we won't fawn all over you.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 01:06:00
Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 01:06:00
Hmm. I've just completed minutes of exhaustive research comparing NWS (New Corp) to GE. Looks like GE consistently trades at a higher price than NWS and also provides much stronger dividend. So, as the blog financial adviser (:rofl:) I would rate GE as a buy, NWS not so much.
Comment by Random on 08/21/2008 02:14:35
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Random on 08/21/2008 02:14:35
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Comment by TriSec on 08/21/2008 02:21:30
TriSec on 08/21/2008 02:21:30
Manny Ramirez is a complete bastard.
It needed to be said.
It needed to be said.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 02:23:36
What did Mr Ramirez do?
Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 02:23:36
Quote by TriSec:
Manny Ramirez is a complete bastard.
It needed to be said.
What did Mr Ramirez do?
Comment by livingonli on 08/21/2008 02:24:22
livingonli on 08/21/2008 02:24:22
Can I go home now?
Comment by TriSec on 08/21/2008 02:28:19
TriSec on 08/21/2008 02:28:19
He's hitting .423 since the trade; he completely tanked his last few weeks here in Boston.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/21/2008 02:58:20
trojanrabbit on 08/21/2008 02:58:20
Manny only took hi$ agent$ advice. Bora$ make$ no money from a $ox exten$ion, only if he get$ a new contract. Which will likely be with the Yankee$
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 03:46:12
Mondobubba on 08/21/2008 03:46:12
May-Walsh WIN! USA! USA! USA!