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The Fallout
Author: Raine    Date: 08/09/2017 13:16:31

I am, once again at a loss for words when it comes to what is happening to our country -- and the world. What 45 said yesterday was indeed dangerous and scary. He's as recklessly impulsive and irresponsible as Kim Jong Un.

What 45 said yesterday has very few if any, historical parallels according to some historians and analysts.
“It’s hard to think of a president using more extreme language during crisis like this before,” said Michael Beschloss, a presidential historian. “Presidents usually try to use language that is even more moderate than what they may be feeling in private, because they’ve always been worried that their language might escalate a crisis.”

Mr. Truman delivered his muscular message at a time when the United States had an overwhelming military advantage over Japan, which did not have a nuclear weapon; Mr. Trump’s threat was aimed instead at a government that has developed nuclear weapons and has been testing intercontinental ballistic missiles.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower used to say that the more shrill the Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev was in the language he used against the United States — promising “we will bury you” and “we’re turning out missiles like sausages” — the more tempered he would be, Mr. Beschloss said.

President John F. Kennedy was similarly restrained in his rhetoric in the run-up to the Cuban missile crisis, which was prompted by the discovery that nuclear missile sites were being constructed by the Soviet Union in Cuba, Mr. Beschloss said. In an address on Oct. 22, 1962, he called upon Khrushchev “to halt and eliminate this clandestine, reckless and provocative threat to world peace and to stable relations between our two nations” and “move the world back from the abyss of destruction.” As for the United States, Kennedy said, “the greatest danger of all would be to do nothing.”


Truman, Eisenhower, and Kennedy were people schooled in the way of the world. they understood diplomacy. They were statesmen.

45 is none of those things, and to be quite honest, he is the one escalating tensions between North Korea and the world.

To be honest, as I said yesterday I am wary of the reports that N. Korea has developed a nuclear weapon small enough for a ballistic missile. I am wary because N Korea is one of the most difficult nation is the world to obtain information.

I am reminded of the WMD claims during the Bush administration. That led us into the invasion of Iraq. The playbook is there, thanks to Cheney and his shadow government, and that administration was filled with people who actually knew what they were doing.

Here, almost 14 years later, we have a SoS that has sliced the State department so much it looks like a going-out-of-business sale.

I pray that cooler heads prevail --- or Mueller gets shit done fast. 45 will do anything to not be revealed as the criminal he is. According to this Op-Ed, his very own organization could prove to be his undoing.

Happy Hump day!

and
Raine









 
 

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Comment by Scoopster on 08/09/2017 13:21:16
Mornin' all..




Comment by BobR on 08/09/2017 13:23:53
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..



I suspect the national security team has called Mueller and said "hurry the fuck up!"

Comment by Scoopster on 08/09/2017 13:25:20
I also saw something about Kelly trying to reign in the tweeting & Trump throwing a massive fit.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 08/09/2017 13:32:19
Good morning, bloggers!!

I know that I have posted this before, but Trump has reminded me of Greg Stillson from Stephen King's The Dead Zone: a pseudopopulist who seeks power and whom the character of Johnny Smith, a teacher and a psychic, meets and experiences a horrifying vision of a possible future President Stillson.



We must encourage calmer heads to prevail. Elections do have consequences. We have a hothead in the White House and one in Pyongyang.

Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 13:33:08
Quote by Scoopster:
I also saw something about Kelly trying to reign in the tweeting & Trump throwing a massive fit.


Trump is literally uncontrollable.




Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 13:38:05
Quote by Scoopster:
I also saw something about Kelly trying to reign in the tweeting & Trump throwing a massive fit.

also, Kelly is not succeeding.




Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 13:43:47




Comment by wickedpam on 08/09/2017 13:56:25
Morning

Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 14:08:46
*poof* there went the comments.

Comment by BobR on 08/09/2017 14:13:11
Comment by Scoopster on 08/09/2017 14:16:12
Sooooo.. the Winter Olympics are happening in six months - in South Korea.

I get the feeling if something tragic doesn't happen by then, it WILL happen then.

Comment by BobR on 08/09/2017 14:26:12
Quote by Scoopster:
Sooooo.. the Winter Olympics are happening in six months - in South Korea.

I get the feeling if something tragic doesn't happen by then, it WILL happen then.



Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 14:29:15
Quote by BobR:
Shit's gettin' real

That came from Mueller -- this is a shot across the bough.

Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 14:32:11
Quote by Raine:
Quote by BobR:
Shit's gettin' real

That came from Mueller -- this is a shot across the bough.

Is it wrong that I am happy about this?

via GIPHY



Comment by Scoopster on 08/09/2017 14:35:34
Quote by Raine:
Quote by BobR:
Shit's gettin' real

That came from Mueller -- this is a shot across the bough.

Oh I thought this happened yesterday - apparently it was last month!

Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 14:43:24
Can we call this obstruction of justice? This is stunning. THE SAME DAY.

Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 14:48:09



You think Manafort will become a witness to avoid a longer jail term?

This is so far from a denial as can be.

Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 14:51:44
in some good news that should never have happened in the first place. The Pentagon tells Bannon to FO.
At the Pentagon, according to a knowledgeable former senior official, opposition to Prince’s proposal—details of which were first reported by USA Today—for a “viceroy” to run Afghanistan through a paid army runs high.

“The Pentagon is not interested in privatizing the war in Afghanistan,” the former official told The Daily Beast.

Several current and former Trump administration officials said that despite Prince’s recent reemergence on cable news—the venue of choice when attempting to persuade President Donald Trump—Prince has no significant internal support. That is, with one big exception: Steve Bannon, Trump’s chief strategist and an avowed bureaucratic enemy of the national security adviser, Army Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster.


Comment by TriSec on 08/09/2017 15:24:05
Oops. Sorry.



Comment by TriSec on 08/09/2017 15:39:35
During the Reagan era, I worked in Cambridge. My desk in those days faced Boston, so we always joked that we'd have a front-row seat; a millisecond or two of intense light, then *poof*, instantly vaporized.

So I suppose I'm glad I work downtown now. I'll never know what happened. Javi and Maria might survive, but since we're only 9 miles from downtown, line-of-sight, who knows.



Comment by BobR on 08/09/2017 16:11:20
Quote by TriSec:
During the Reagan era, I worked in Cambridge. My desk in those days faced Boston, so we always joked that we'd have a front-row seat; a millisecond or two of intense light, then *poof*, instantly vaporized.

So I suppose I'm glad I work downtown now. I'll never know what happened. Javi and Maria might survive, but since we're only 9 miles from downtown, line-of-sight, who knows.


We're 4.5 miles from the White House (as the crow flies), so I don't expect we'd make it through alive.

Comment by BobR on 08/09/2017 16:15:42
Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 16:40:21
Comment by Scoopster on 08/09/2017 16:41:06
WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA




Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 16:42:27
Quote by BobR:
Quote by TriSec:
During the Reagan era, I worked in Cambridge. My desk in those days faced Boston, so we always joked that we'd have a front-row seat; a millisecond or two of intense light, then *poof*, instantly vaporized.

So I suppose I'm glad I work downtown now. I'll never know what happened. Javi and Maria might survive, but since we're only 9 miles from downtown, line-of-sight, who knows.


We're 4.5 miles from the White House (as the crow flies), so I don't expect we'd make it through alive.
Personally, I think we are ok on the east coast for now.

IT's the west coast I worry for.


Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 16:47:45
Quote by Scoopster:
WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA




Woah --

So is this going to open a floodgate of suits arguing that the Bush Admin should have tried these dudes in American courts as opposed to Military courts?


Comment by TriSec on 08/09/2017 17:06:53
I successfully loaded FS:ACOF, but it won't run on the new machine. There's many bugs present that are clashing with decade-old software and Windows 10.

I may be heading for a new hangar.



Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 17:25:43
Comment by livingonli on 08/09/2017 17:27:08
I wonder if both Manafort and Flynn will flip and rat out Trump. Trump has no loyalty to anyone, and these bitches might be too scare of actual jail time.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/09/2017 17:58:09
Apparently the WH email system is now bouncing all incoming messages because the server is down.... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Comment by BobR on 08/09/2017 18:42:14
Quote by TriSec:
I successfully loaded FS:ACOF, but it won't run on the new machine. There's many bugs present that are clashing with decade-old software and Windows 10.

I may be heading for a new hangar.


That link is empty

Comment by BobR on 08/09/2017 18:43:58

They speak French in Haiti, yes? Quebec is probably the best place for them.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/09/2017 18:51:42
Comment by BobR on 08/09/2017 19:13:16
Quote by Scoopster:
SecDef Mattis threatens North Korea's CIVILIAN POPULATION, not just its govt.

Killing civilians is an INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIME.

Didn't we originally think Mattis was one of the level-headed ones?

I take that back.

Comment by TriSec on 08/09/2017 19:39:04
OK, so who is more Notheast Liberal Elite than me today?

Out back smoking my birthday cigar, drinking a gimlet, listening to the symphony (Shostakovich), and reading Tolstoy. 🎼

Comment by livingonli on 08/09/2017 19:44:13
Quote by BobR:

They speak French in Haiti, yes? Quebec is probably the best place for them.

French and Creole. Even though Creole is derivative and largely spoken by the lower classes. (and most Haitians are poor).

Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 19:46:25



Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 19:50:44
Quote by Raine:


HT:

Mala.

Comment by Scoopster on 08/09/2017 19:51:02
Looks like there's a flash nuclear war protest about to happen at the WH (meaning 6pm).

Comment by BobR on 08/09/2017 19:54:31
Quote by Raine:




Comment by Raine on 08/09/2017 20:26:47
Quote by Scoopster:
Looks like there's a flash nuclear war protest about to happen at the WH (meaning 6pm).
ooOOoo


Are they gonna nuke the chicken?


Comment by TriSec on 08/09/2017 21:21:01
Nuclear? FLASH????

OK, who's trolling the site?