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Enough! It's time to focus.
Author: Raine    Date: 09/15/2008 05:58:44

It's been more than 2 weeks since we all had the pleasure to learn about Sarah Palin. I include myself in this, regarding what I am going to say next. ENOUGH. 2 weeks is enough. I get it now. I hope you will too. She is exactly what John McCain wanted her to be. He wanted her to be the person to get your panties in a wad -- a wad so tight we forgot who OUR candidate is. John wanted you to focus on her, and not on Barack.

Speaking for myself, for 2 weeks, he succeeded. GOOD. Fine. I gotta give it to him. It was a great political play. But that is what it was, a play. Today, I am going to admit, I am over it. I had my 24/7 Sarah venting time. NOW and today is when we should realize that we have 7 weeks to go. Sarah is 2 weeks ago. It is time we all got back to focusing on the person who will be the next president of the United States of America. Remember Barack Obama? Think about it. 7 weeks. That is less than 2 months. 7 weekends. Less than 60 days. I just REALLY want for everyone to get that time frame into perspective. This is the home stretch.

From here on in, just to give fair warning, things are going to get dirty. REALLY nasty dirty. The 527's will be kicking in to high gear, the smearing is going to go full tilt. Our candidate, and his choice for VP are going to need EVERY one of us to be out there, passing the word along. We don't have any more time to bitch about Sarah. John McCain is the one running for president alongside Barack. These are the people running. Sarah never got a primary vote. She didn't campaign. She wasn't running to be president. She was nothing more than a political pick. This is not about Sarah.

THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT THE ISSUES. It is not about personality. Stop letting people tell you otherwise. We NEED to get back to issues. That was the Obama campaign all along... ISSUES. WE want to ELECT BARACK OBAMA!!! (we should not be worrying about defeating John & Sarah McCain ---oops... sorry)

So, I propose to everyone who is reading this blog today, that we get back to the things that really matter. Sarah Palin does not really matter. She may be a lightening rod, but in the end, if we keep working to get our message out, she will be nothing but a footnote in history. The things that matter to us are everything opposite of what Sarah Palin represents. It's pretty simple. That was not an accident. The sad little secret is that Sarah was chosen by John McCain to be nothing more than a symbol of EVERYTHING that liberals fight against. (not so maverick-like, eh? ) In other words, he is using her. She might be a woman, but she was played and objectified by John McCain for his own political ambition. When we spend so much time talking about her, and not our own candidate, we legitimatize this behavior. We really need to stop giving them that legitimacy. As a feminist in this party, I have decided to stop. Believe it or not, it degrades Sarah and just becuase she is too blind to see it doesn't mean I don't get it. I do. John MCCain is using a woman to get what he wants. I refuse to play that game. I will call her out for her politcal posturing, but I will no longer spend my time wringing my hands over a woman who somehow thinks that because she is a female she can call herself a feminist. She is not.

We are better than this. We are better than falling for this game. We have a spectacular candidate, we have a righteous platform, we have record numbers of people registering, we have record levels of fundraising. We have a perfect storm...

Do not forget that. Do not let Sarah distract you from those simple facts.

We are Democrats. WE need to get back doing everything we can to make sure we ELECT Barack and and stop wasting our time trying to defeat John Palin McCain, because we are right. We have the moral superiority --- we do. After 7 years, how can anyone feel like they have to play defense? We have a great offense! Have a little chutzpah! Let us do a quick review:

We have major banks going belly up, a housing meltdown, government takeover of Fannie and Freddie, record unemployment, depressed wages, millions in job losses, gasoline prices out of control, food prices skyrocketing, two wars with no end in sight, and massive deficits, all of this since 2000.

Was that the Democrats? NO. That was ALL under the rule of the Republican party. You can blame *ush, but John McCain voted with him 90% of the time. (95% in just the last year -- when Johnny bothered to show up to vote at all) This is the word we need to get out and spread to people. We do not have to get Barack Obama elected becuase of how bad Sarah is. The ISSUES are there. Forget Sarah... this is about Barack. We can do this!

YES. We Can.

It is high time for people to get back into that mode. NOW. We don't have a lot of time, and, this is basically the fourth quarter. We don't need the hail mary... we just need to keep playing the game. You see, we are still ahead, and we really do have a better team.

On a personal note, in a few days my sister will be giving birth --- and no matter what her politics are, mine want to make this a better world for that little boy. I believe that Barack Obama can help me do that. The stakes are that high.

:peace: and :heart:
Raine

 

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Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 07:39:06
I'll be first with a little late night video theater. It was a busy day/night in the salt mine.





Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/15/2008 11:21:51
I'm sure we'll hear a renewed chorus of DRILL BABY, DRILL today since Ike destroyed a number of oil platforms and pipelines. We need to drill all along the coast so ANY coastal storm will give them an excuse to raise prices. Even way up here in the NE, gas at one station jumped 20 cents this morning.



Lessee Faux spin the bankruptcy of Lehman Bros as a good thing.



REMAIN CALM! ALL IS WELL!



Comment by Shane-O on 09/15/2008 11:53:19
Quote by trojanrabbit:

I'm sure we'll hear a renewed chorus of DRILL BABY, DRILL today since Ike destroyed a number of oil platforms and pipelines. We need to drill all along the coast so ANY coastal storm will give them an excuse to raise prices. Even way up here in the NE, gas at one station jumped 20 cents this morning.



Lessee Faux spin the bankruptcy of Lehman Bros as a good thing.



REMAIN CALM! ALL IS WELL!



The failure of Lehman is not really the story - the signal from the Fed that the spicket is now off - THAT's the big story. They won't even guarantee buyout loans.



The thing is - economic crisis always trickles down -- prosperity rarely does. The only way that real economic reform will occur is if those in the "wealthy" class ALSO feel it.



The problem is - that since economic crisis trickles down -- the rest of us will feel it far more.

Comment by Shane-O on 09/15/2008 12:03:04
Best wishes, all good thoughts to your Sis (and your soon-to-be nephew), Raine!

Comment by BobR on 09/15/2008 12:20:45
I agree with this post 100%. Palin has been discredited, and her approval ratings are sinking faster than cement dinghy.



WE chose Obama for a reason.

Comment by BobR on 09/15/2008 12:22:12
Quote by trojanrabbit:

I'm sure we'll hear a renewed chorus of DRILL BABY, DRILL today since Ike destroyed a number of oil platforms and pipelines. We need to drill all along the coast so ANY coastal storm will give them an excuse to raise prices. Even way up here in the NE, gas at one station jumped 20 cents this morning.



Lessee Faux spin the bankruptcy of Lehman Bros as a good thing.



REMAIN CALM! ALL IS WELL!



Hmmm... but wouldn't all those new oil wells be just as susceptible to hurricanes too?

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 12:38:40
Morning :hug:





1) New baby soon Yeeah! All health, happiness and good thoughts to Raine sis and baby!



2) Oil wells, not sure why I have this impression but aren't those oil wells supposed to be able to float from place to place? All they have to do is bring them back to where they were and hook them up again. Plus if they got loose in a Cat 2 like Ike why didn't they get loose during a Cat 3/4 like Katrina? I have to wonder. Or there's a chance I don't have the whole picture.

Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 12:42:21
Anyone seen the new obama ad?

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 12:43:45
Over the weekend I was listening to my iPod when this song came up - (yes I know ABBA is the bane of everyone's exsistance but it's my guilty pleasue) - and I thought what a great song to do a mash up with or make a commercial or video out of - thing is I have no clue or program that I can do that with.... any takers?



Money Money Money lyrics



I work all night, I work all day, to pay the bills I have to pay

Ain't it sad

And still there never seems to be a single penny left for me

That's too bad

In my dreams I have a plan

If I got me a wealthy man

I wouldn't have to work at all, I'd fool around and have a ball...



Money, money, money

Must be funny

In the rich man's world

Money, money, money

Always sunny

In the rich man's world

Aha-ahaaa

All the things I could do

If I had a little money

It's a rich man's world



A man like that is hard to find but I can't get him off my mind

Ain't it sad

And if he happens to be free I bet he wouldn't fancy me

That's too bad

So I must leave, I'll have to go

To Las Vegas or Monaco

And win a fortune in a game, my life will never be the same...



Money, money, money

Must be funny

In the rich man's world

Money, money, money

Always sunny

In the rich man's world

Aha-ahaaa

All the things I could do

If I had a little money

It's a rich man's world



Money, money, money

Must be funny

In the rich man's world

Money, money, money

Always sunny

In the rich man's world

Aha-ahaaa

All the things I could do

If I had a little money

It's a rich man's world



It's a rich man's world



Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 12:44:27
Quote by Random:

Anyone seen the new obama ad?




which one? I've seen a couple



Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 12:49:36
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Anyone seen the new obama ad?




which one? I've seen a couple



The NEW one. Talkin bout it on the TeeVee.

He attacks McCain for taking the "low road"

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 12:52:58
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Anyone seen the new obama ad?




which one? I've seen a couple



The NEW one. Talkin bout it on the TeeVee.

He attacks McCain for taking the "low road"




Heard it in the other room but didn't really see it yet. Just started here.



Comment by Shane-O on 09/15/2008 12:54:42
Quote by Random:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Random:

Anyone seen the new obama ad?




which one? I've seen a couple



The NEW one. Talkin bout it on the TeeVee.

He attacks McCain for taking the "low road"


Paul Begala had it right yesterday on This Week.



Attack McCain's strong point - "honor" -- and watch him explode.





Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 12:57:30
Ha...Random just watch Tina Fey as Palin.

Creepy...just creepy. We sure that was Palin herself...Jesus.

Comment by m-hadley on 09/15/2008 12:59:08
Excellent Post Raine, my dear,

I think that the GOP (Giddy over Palin :P) have already over-played their hand, and I for one am all for us righteous Dems getting back down to the business of electing Senator Barack Obama as the next president of these United States. Happee Mondee everybody!

Thank you all again for all the b-day wishes. I blogged about my big Five-Oh over at my blog.

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug: & :dance:

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 13:06:15
stopped by Prince William County for Obama this weekend to see if I could get a sticker for the car and they told me VA was on lock down for getting those. Any one know anything about that?



Comment by Scoopster on 09/15/2008 13:15:33
Mornin' guys.. Home sick today.



So, who's ready for the meltdown on Wall Street?! Oil prices are DOWN big time, we're talkin' approaching $90/bbl.

Comment by Grumpymann on 09/15/2008 13:15:53
Hey folks



Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 13:16:48
Hey Grump! Scoop!

Comment by Grumpymann on 09/15/2008 13:17:33
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/pspauld/BlogPix/1064185.jpg


What's that in Lou's right hand?

Comment by Grumpymann on 09/15/2008 13:18:49
Quote by wickedpam:

Hey Grump! Scoop!


Miss me?

Comment by BobR on 09/15/2008 13:23:14
Quote by Grumpymann:



Miss me?


always.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 13:24:13
Of course we miss you!



I was just reading that waffle thing on rawstory. Said the stuff is supposed to be sold at Books-a-Millon too

Comment by BobR on 09/15/2008 13:24:57
Quote by Scoopster:

Mornin' guys.. Home sick today.



So, who's ready for the meltdown on Wall Street?! Oil prices are DOWN big time, we're talkin' approaching $90/bbl.


And yet - gasoline prices are up (hurricane scare).

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 13:25:17
Link to storyObama waffles

Comment by Grumpymann on 09/15/2008 13:26:22
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Grumpymann:



Miss me?


always.


Can I get that hug?



Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 13:29:18
oh please tell me theres video!

Comment by BobR on 09/15/2008 13:30:08
Quote by Scoopster:

Mornin' guys.. Home sick today.



So, who's ready for the meltdown on Wall Street?! Oil prices are DOWN big time, we're talkin' approaching $90/bbl.


more info...

Comment by Scoopster on 09/15/2008 13:30:18
Watching CNBC.. I thought I just head Dow futures are down 4300 points..



Yah I misheard.. went down 43 points at the bell, and now it's at like 100. The Nasdaq is getting hammered.

Comment by BobR on 09/15/2008 13:30:51
Quote by Grumpymann:



Can I get that hug?



aww... c'mere big guy... :hug:

Comment by Grumpymann on 09/15/2008 13:32:05
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Grumpymann:



Can I get that hug?



aww... c'mere big guy... :hug:


Thanks!



And I didn't like it TOO much!

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 13:36:02
Good Morning Everyone!



Comment by Scoopster on 09/15/2008 13:40:58
That "Honor" ad from Obama is great.. spot on, hits all the right points, and it's gonna piss off Grandpa McSimpson.

Comment by m-hadley on 09/15/2008 13:44:47
Quote by wickedpam:

stopped by Prince William County for Obama this weekend to see if I could get a sticker for the car and they told me VA was on lock down for getting those. Any one know anything about that?





Mala,

I've got an extra Obama Bumper sticker I'd be glad to drop in the mail to you. Just send me your address via [email protected]. :dance:

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:



Comment by BobR on 09/15/2008 13:45:19
Quote by Grumpymann:



Thanks!



And I didn't like it TOO much!


not that there's anything wrong with that...



:rofl:

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 13:48:27
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by trojanrabbit:

I'm sure we'll hear a renewed chorus of DRILL BABY, DRILL today since Ike destroyed a number of oil platforms and pipelines. We need to drill all along the coast so ANY coastal storm will give them an excuse to raise prices. Even way up here in the NE, gas at one station jumped 20 cents this morning.



Lessee Faux spin the bankruptcy of Lehman Bros as a good thing.



REMAIN CALM! ALL IS WELL!



The failure of Lehman is not really the story - the signal from the Fed that the spicket is now off - THAT's the big story. They won't even guarantee buyout loans.



The thing is - economic crisis always trickles down -- prosperity rarely does. The only way that real economic reform will occur is if those in the "wealthy" class ALSO feel it.



The problem is - that since economic crisis trickles down -- the rest of us will feel it far more.




indeed.



Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 13:48:42
Quote by m-hadley:

Quote by wickedpam:

stopped by Prince William County for Obama this weekend to see if I could get a sticker for the car and they told me VA was on lock down for getting those. Any one know anything about that?





Mala,

I've got an extra Obama Bumper sticker I'd be glad to drop in the mail to you. Just send me your address via [email protected]. :dance:

Cheers,

mfaye :hug:





yeah! should have it in a minute!



Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 13:52:13
Ok... Am I gonna have to Harold?

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 13:52:24


Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 13:53:27
Quote by wickedpam:

stopped by Prince William County for Obama this weekend to see if I could get a sticker for the car and they told me VA was on lock down for getting those. Any one know anything about that?

Did they tell you any reason why?







Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 13:54:12
It has been 16,286 days since Sarah Palin has been to Iraq.

Comment by velveeta jones on 09/15/2008 13:55:44
Morning all! ENOUGH is the buzz word of this election!! I am planning on signing up to be a poll worker. Cheating needs to be documented.



BTW, Velveeta's tip of the day: Don't come home from work and turn on a TV documentary on the History channel and think you'll just doze right off. The movie I found was called "102 Minutes". No narration, very little underscoring........... just screams, wails, sirens and sounds of horror from the WTC on 9/11.



:wacko:

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 13:57:58
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

stopped by Prince William County for Obama this weekend to see if I could get a sticker for the car and they told me VA was on lock down for getting those. Any one know anything about that?

Did they tell you any reason why?











Just said it was a "lock down" I'm guessing it had to do with getting out Obama/Biden stickers and stuff as opposed to just Obama. Or there are so many people asking for them supply is having a hard time keeping up with demand



Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 13:58:37
brb

Comment by m-hadley on 09/15/2008 13:58:47
I love Momma's spot-on impression of Palin - she's gonna give Tina Fey a run for her money :D

Cheers,

mfaye :fbump:

Comment by Scoopster on 09/15/2008 14:00:10
Quote by Raine:

It has been 16,286 days since Sarah Palin has been to Iraq.


That's assuming she was reincarnated from a Iraqi camel..

Comment by velveeta jones on 09/15/2008 14:02:15
Quote by wickedpam:

stopped by Prince William County for Obama this weekend to see if I could get a sticker for the car and they told me VA was on lock down for getting those. Any one know anything about that?





Mala, I got a few stickers, but not the new one that would say Obama/Biden. Just say the word and I'll send ya one or two.



I'm on the list for a yard sign, they seem to be out of stock here. I wonder how easy it would be to get a McCain/Palin yard sign? Think I'll call and find out.



:p



Comment by velveeta jones on 09/15/2008 14:13:02
McCain/Palin signs very available! They'll deliver! Anyone want me to place an order?





Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 14:31:35
I must admit, I am freaking out a little bit regarding the markets.



Globally it seems that all market are down between 3 and 5 percent.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 14:34:09
Quote by velveeta jones:

Quote by wickedpam:

stopped by Prince William County for Obama this weekend to see if I could get a sticker for the car and they told me VA was on lock down for getting those. Any one know anything about that?





Mala, I got a few stickers, but not the new one that would say Obama/Biden. Just say the word and I'll send ya one or two.



I'm on the list for a yard sign, they seem to be out of stock here. I wonder how easy it would be to get a McCain/Palin yard sign? Think I'll call and find out.



:p





Faye is going to send me one but I do apreciate it. Ya'll are so great!





Drove by the Repug HQ for Prince William (it's down the street from PWC for Obama) they have 1 giant McCain/Palin sign and a TON of or signs for local and state elections.



Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 14:37:12
A belated good morning everyone.



So, are we in a depression yet? This is feeling like 1929.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 14:37:15
the lives of skanky teens

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 14:41:21
That sounded like an added on special effect during that snippet of Sarah Palin.



Oh, and btw... This is what OUR attack dog, AKA Joe Biden is up to today!



Go JOE!

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 14:41:38
It's strange how all these family values right-wingers have kids who are anything but the model. It's like a comment on ssg's facebook page.

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 14:48:46
Someone PLEASE, give me a drink. Gramps said this TODAY in Jacksonville. (where is Mondo? )



"You know that there's been tremendous turmoil in our financial markets and Wall St. And it is -- people are frightened by these events. Our economy, I think still -- the fundamentals of our economy are strong. But these are very, very difficult times."



He also says that he will never ever let this happen to our country again... REALLY JOHN? REALLY? isn't a kind of admission that you LET THIS HAPPEN to begin with?

Comment by Shane-O on 09/15/2008 14:55:28
A drop for Governor Palin:

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 14:56:59
Something for people to think about regarding those rape kits.



Most of them include the morning after pill to prevent conception. That pill is viewed by extreme right wingers like sarah Palin as contraception at the very least... but in many circles, it is akin to abortion, so if you think she was charging for them for the noble purpose of saving the taxpayers money, I would suggest to you that this was not really the case. This is another example of her extreme religious views being legislated onto women.







Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 14:57:55
Quote by Shane-O:

A drop for Governor Palin:
that was perfect shane-o!!



Comment by BobR on 09/15/2008 15:03:20
Quote by livingonli:

It's strange how all these family values right-wingers have kids who are anything but the model. It's like a comment on ssg's facebook page.


And that comment would be?....

Comment by Grumpymann on 09/15/2008 15:06:14
Quote by Raine:

Something for people to think about regarding those rape kits.



Most of them include the morning after pill to prevent conception. That pill is viewed by extreme right wingers like sarah Palin as contraception at the very least... but in many circles, it is akin to abortion, so if you think she was charging for them for the noble purpose of saving the taxpayers money, I would suggest to you that this was not really the case. This is another example of her extreme religious views being legislated onto women.





Now why didn't I think of that?



Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 15:07:47
it's not new - their just back



Comment by Grumpymann on 09/15/2008 15:08:31
Quote by Raine:

Someone PLEASE, give me a drink. Gramps said this TODAY in Jacksonville. (where is Mondo? )

"You know that there's been tremendous turmoil in our financial markets and Wall St. And it is -- people are frightened by these events. Our economy, I think still -- the fundamentals of our economy are strong. But these are very, very difficult times."



He also says that he will never ever let this happen to our country again... REALLY JOHN? REALLY? isn't a kind of admission that you LET THIS HAPPEN to begin with?


No he just wants to contune the same insane rules that let it happen in the first place.

My GOD we need a better class of wingnuts in this country so at least I could RESPECT them when they say stoopid shit.

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 15:10:07
Quote by BobR:

Quote by livingonli:

It's strange how all these family values right-wingers have kids who are anything but the model. It's like a comment on ssg's facebook page.


And that comment would be?....


There was an exchange where they looked at Palin's family while the kids of supposedly "immoral" liberal parents aren't involved in these problems and seem to be more moral and more accomplished than the children of conservatives.



Hey, just look at the younger years of Geroge W. Bush and how the twins have grown up for more fine examples of conservative "family values".

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 15:10:33
Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Raine:

Something for people to think about regarding those rape kits.



Most of them include the morning after pill to prevent conception. That pill is viewed by extreme right wingers like sarah Palin as contraception at the very least... but in many circles, it is akin to abortion, so if you think she was charging for them for the noble purpose of saving the taxpayers money, I would suggest to you that this was not really the case. This is another example of her extreme religious views being legislated onto women.





Now why didn't I think of that?

Please feel free to run with it!



Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 15:14:15
That SNL open was the best one in years

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 15:16:14
Finally, a little good news. Fannie and Freddie CEO's denied exit bonus'.

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 15:18:40
Quote by Raine:

Finally, a little good news. Fannie and Freddie CEO's denied exit bonus'.


Woot! People shouldn't be paid like that for failure.

Comment by Shane-O on 09/15/2008 15:18:45
Quote by Raine:

Something for people to think about regarding those rape kits.



Most of them include the morning after pill to prevent conception. That pill is viewed by extreme right wingers like sarah Palin as contraception at the very least... but in many circles, it is akin to abortion, so if you think she was charging for them for the noble purpose of saving the taxpayers money, I would suggest to you that this was not really the case. This is another example of her extreme religious views being legislated onto women.







THAT makes sense - never thought of that.



In short -



BINGO!



Comment by Mondobubba on 09/15/2008 15:19:46
Quote by Raine:

Someone PLEASE, give me a drink. Gramps said this TODAY in Jacksonville. (where is Mondo? )



"You know that there's been tremendous turmoil in our financial markets and Wall St. And it is -- people are frightened by these events. Our economy, I think still -- the fundamentals of our economy are strong. But these are very, very difficult times."



He also says that he will never ever let this happen to our country again... REALLY JOHN? REALLY? isn't a kind of admission that you LET THIS HAPPEN to begin with?




So, Sen. McCain what you are saying is you are going to re-regulate the financial markets? That would be reforming Wall Street.

Comment by Grumpymann on 09/15/2008 15:21:20
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Grumpymann:

Quote by Raine:

Something for people to think about regarding those rape kits.



Most of them include the morning after pill to prevent conception. That pill is viewed by extreme right wingers like sarah Palin as contraception at the very least... but in many circles, it is akin to abortion, so if you think she was charging for them for the noble purpose of saving the taxpayers money, I would suggest to you that this was not really the case. This is another example of her extreme religious views being legislated onto women.





Now why didn't I think of that?

Please feel free to run with it!



Oh I will I thought it was more "My money over your life" crap.

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 15:26:35
did this caller read the blog this morning?



:D

Comment by Grumpymann on 09/15/2008 15:26:51
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Raine:

Finally, a little good news. Fannie and Freddie CEO's denied exit bonus'.


Woot! People shouldn't be paid like that for failure.


RightWingWellFare is drying up!

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 15:29:48
have to say that is the story from last week that made me laugh uncontrolablly

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 15:30:28
Quote by Raine:

did this caller read the blog this morning?



:D






maybe - didn't say we often have lurkers? ;)



Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 15:32:37
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Someone PLEASE, give me a drink. Gramps said this TODAY in Jacksonville. (where is Mondo? )



"You know that there's been tremendous turmoil in our financial markets and Wall St. And it is -- people are frightened by these events. Our economy, I think still -- the fundamentals of our economy are strong. But these are very, very difficult times."



He also says that he will never ever let this happen to our country again... REALLY JOHN? REALLY? isn't a kind of admission that you LET THIS HAPPEN to begin with?




So, Sen. McCain what you are saying is you are going to re-regulate the financial markets? That would be reforming Wall Street.
Srah Palin at a campaign stop just said that EXACT thing.







Comment by Grumpymann on 09/15/2008 15:32:52
Comment by Grumpymann on 09/15/2008 15:35:30
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Someone PLEASE, give me a drink. Gramps said this TODAY in Jacksonville. (where is Mondo? )



"You know that there's been tremendous turmoil in our financial markets and Wall St. And it is -- people are frightened by these events. Our economy, I think still -- the fundamentals of our economy are strong. But these are very, very difficult times."



He also says that he will never ever let this happen to our country again... REALLY JOHN? REALLY? isn't a kind of admission that you LET THIS HAPPEN to begin with?




So, Sen. McCain what you are saying is you are going to re-regulate the financial markets? That would be reforming Wall Street.
Srah Palin at a campaign stop just said that EXACT thing.





Funny that



Comment by Mondobubba on 09/15/2008 15:39:42
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

stopped by Prince William County for Obama this weekend to see if I could get a sticker for the car and they told me VA was on lock down for getting those. Any one know anything about that?

Did they tell you any reason why?











Just said it was a "lock down" I'm guessing it had to do with getting out Obama/Biden stickers and stuff as opposed to just Obama. Or there are so many people asking for them supply is having a hard time keeping up with demand





From what I was told by an Obama staffer they are spending money on organizing and the flaven rather than the yard signs and bumper stickers. As she put it, yard signs and bumper stickers don't win elections.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 15:40:10
think that Rove thing is a setup

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 15:41:33
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

stopped by Prince William County for Obama this weekend to see if I could get a sticker for the car and they told me VA was on lock down for getting those. Any one know anything about that?

Did they tell you any reason why?











Just said it was a "lock down" I'm guessing it had to do with getting out Obama/Biden stickers and stuff as opposed to just Obama. Or there are so many people asking for them supply is having a hard time keeping up with demand





From what I was told by an Obama staffer they are spending money on organizing and the flaven rather than the yard signs and bumper stickers. As she put it, yard signs and bumper stickers don't win elections.




hmmm - I think they help energize people - like "Yeah their like me" or "hey I'm not alone and crazy"



Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 15:48:21
Joe Biden is on TV and he is ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 15:53:08
How many of us felt alone and crazy before we found each other?

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 15:53:29
I know I did

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/15/2008 15:55:44
Hey did you that the youngest Palin kid's full name is as follows? Trig Paxon Van Palin! That is better than anything out of the Palin Baby Name Generator if you ask me!

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 15:57:43
Right-wing satire fails on both counts since it is neither funny or true.

Comment by m-hadley on 09/15/2008 15:59:45
Quote by livingonli:

How many of us felt alone and crazy before we found each other?




Amen to that, Brother :D

Love to you Livin, Mala, Raine, BobR, Mondo, Star, TriSec, Velveeta, Auntie Azalea, and all other 4Fers :hug:

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 16:00:17
Quote by Mondobubba:

Hey did you that the youngest Palin kid's full name is as follows? Trig Paxon Van Palin! That is better than anything out of the Palin Baby Name Generator if you ask me!
Van Palin!!





Where the hell did these people get these names? Do you think they actually used a baby name generator?



Comment by m-hadley on 09/15/2008 16:00:53
Quote by Raine:

Joe Biden is on TV and he is ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!!




Go Joe Go!!! :D

Cheers,

mfaye



Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 16:01:23
I still feel cray, but I am no longer alone! :D



:hug:

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 16:03:46
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Hey did you that the youngest Palin kid's full name is as follows? Trig Paxon Van Palin! That is better than anything out of the Palin Baby Name Generator if you ask me!
Van Palin!!





Where the hell did these people get these names? Do you think they actually used a baby name generator?



It sure seems that way.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 16:05:10
awww - we love ya too Faye :hug:

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 16:05:59
The images of people leaving the Lehman Building in NYC is heartbreaking.

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 16:06:40
Back at ya Faye.



Hope you had a good birthday.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 16:08:21
is Thom a repeat?

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 16:09:22
:kickcan: Thom is a repeat.

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 16:11:39
I guess they couldn't get the hookup since Thom is out of country. He should be back Wednesday from San Francisco.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/15/2008 16:16:13
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Hey did you that the youngest Palin kid's full name is as follows? Trig Paxon Van Palin! That is better than anything out of the Palin Baby Name Generator if you ask me!
Van Palin!!





Where the hell did these people get these names? Do you think they actually used a baby name generator?





She made jokes about that!

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 16:22:18
Thom is now LIVE!!



LIVE! in Lima Peru!!!

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 16:22:26
Thom's on now. They got through. He's doing it on the phone.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/15/2008 16:23:32
Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 16:31:22
Quote by livingonli:

Thom's on now. They got through. He's doing it on the phone.


He's doing it LIVE!

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 16:32:29
Mala, according to DCRTV, WWRC moved Lionel to 3 PM and bumped Thom Hartmann.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 16:44:01
haven't checked their in a couple of days - still wish they had a better signal

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 16:55:49
Well at least you can still get Steph in DC. But that leaves Randi homeless.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 16:59:27
It depends on which way the radio is pointed and what time of day. It's a typical AM signal

Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 17:04:41
Hallooooo!



: checks in :



I was offsite all morning at a conference...no internets.



Anyway, what'd I miss?



(there was an av-dork moment at the conference, one of the presenters was going on and on about "RTO". First correct answer wins coveted blog bonus points.)



And ladies...apparently it is all in your head. I learned today that we have one practice that specializes in "Neuro-gynecology"....whatever that is.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/15/2008 17:08:36
Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/15/2008 17:12:16
Hello, bloggers!!!



I hope that everyone is doing well. Sorry for getting here so late, but things have been busy here and weird. (Odd phone line problem last night. Had to call for service.)



Here is what I have for the Daily Headlines over at UNN now.



And for a much needed laugh, and to show that Palin is but a distraction, here is something from a Scottish software company: the Polar Palin game - where the bears strike back.

Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 17:14:12
Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 17:17:52
Hi, Will. How was the trek from Chicago to Phoenix?

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 17:31:29
Dow Jones right now down 287 points.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 17:45:45
Hey Tri - I used to know what RKO was but no clue about RTO :D





Hey Will! Glad to see you arrived safe and sound, phone issues aside. :)

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/15/2008 17:53:33
Quote by TriSec:

Hallooooo!



: checks in :



I was offsite all morning at a conference...no internets.



Anyway, what'd I miss?



(there was an av-dork moment at the conference, one of the presenters was going on and on about "RTO". First correct answer wins coveted blog bonus points.)



And ladies...apparently it is all in your head. I learned today that we have one practice that specializes in "Neuro-gynecology"....whatever that is.




Either rejected takeoff or the code for Morrow Field?

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/15/2008 17:57:03
What is sounds like the dude was talking about Tri was "Return to operation"

Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 17:58:29
Here's the Dow:



11,120.82 -301.17 / -2.64%



But that's not the significant number, this is:



YTD%Change: -16.16%



Not there yet, but The Great Depression was triggered by 3 days of losses totalling 42% of market value, on Black Thursday (17%), Black Monday (13%) and capping things off with a final 12% on Black Tuesday. (1929)



That was only the beginning; the market had declined a whopping 89% by 1931...or as wiki succinctly puts it:





The market lost $14 billion in value that day, bringing the loss for the week to $30 billion, ten times more than the annual budget of the federal government, far more than the U.S. had spent in all of World War I.






Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 17:59:08
Random Is going to have to hit someone, or something.

Comment by velveeta jones on 09/15/2008 17:59:29
Hey, I normally try to avoid Ed Shultz show, but sounds like he's broadcasting from Alaska. Some interesting things said about Palin. Not liked as much as we thought. One person commented that she ran as a Republican but against many of there policies, more of an Indie........... now, he says, she's one of the club.



I have to go so I'll miss it, but if you're listening to a repeat of a show, you might want to check him out.

Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 17:59:50
We have a winner!



RTO is "Rejected Takeoff" to your friendly av-dork.



It's "Return to office" in athena-speak...essentially a follow-up visit. I guess we couldn't call it an "F-U Visit".





Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 18:00:44
Quote by wickedpam:

Hey Tri - I used to know what RKO was but no clue about RTO :D





Hey Will! Glad to see you arrived safe and sound, phone issues aside. :)


When I think of RKO I think of the old movie studio and former station group which used to own WOR channel 9 in New York, Channel 7 in Boston when it was WNAC and KHJ (now KCAL) channel 9 in Los Angeles.

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 18:01:45
Quote by Random:

Random Is going to have to hit someone, or something.


What's the matter? Just as long as it's not one of us.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/15/2008 18:04:10
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by wickedpam:

Hey Tri - I used to know what RKO was but no clue about RTO :D





Hey Will! Glad to see you arrived safe and sound, phone issues aside. :)


When I think of RKO I think of the old movie studio and former station group which used to own WOR channel 9 in New York, Channel 7 in Boston when it was WNAC and KHJ (now KCAL) channel 9 in Los Angeles.




I think of Movies, Rocky Horror and Hearst ;)



Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 18:07:32
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Random Is going to have to hit someone, or something.


What's the matter? Just as long as it's not one of us.


Random had to change the tire on the back wheel of a bike, where the nuts on it are stripped. (sounds really dirty)

Spend an hour and a half searching the garage something to get rounded nut off a damn bike.





*sighs*

Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 18:08:25
Reason 342(not to elect McCain): McCain is REALLY old.

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 18:09:26
Quote by Random:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Random:

Random Is going to have to hit someone, or something.


What's the matter? Just as long as it's not one of us.


Random had to change the tire on the back wheel of a bike, where the nuts on it are stripped. (sounds really dirty)

Spend an hour and a half searching the garage something to get rounded nut off a damn bike.





*sighs*




I know how it feels to have a bad day.



Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 18:11:00
Quote by Random:

Reason 342(not to elect McCain): McCain is REALLY old.


I love the comments.

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 18:27:44
EuroNews is showing the wreckage from Galveston, Texas in its no comment segment.

Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 18:37:35
Quote by Random:

Reason 342(not to elect McCain): McCain is REALLY old.




Damn, that's a real picture? Looks like a caricature to me.



eeep!







Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/15/2008 18:44:28
Quote by livingonli:

Hi, Will. How was the trek from Chicago to Phoenix?




I am doing well. The only rough part of the journey was from Oklahoma City to Tucumcari, New Mexico. (There must have been something in the water in OKC.) The trip down from Flagstaff was slow, but I managed it.







Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 18:48:06
*snap*



OK, TriSec has just gone nuts.



I'm working one of our Medicaid accounts (abbreviated "mcaid" in the system.) I swear I just saw "Mass McCain" on the report.



:thud:





Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 19:07:11
Dow off 370 at this moment.





Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 19:08:55
Something's happened....it's now down 376; can you say freefall?





Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 19:09:26
She got rid of the Jet, and bought a tanning booth...

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 19:10:24
66 million dollars baby!!!

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 19:11:42
Quote by TriSec:

Something's happened....it's now down 376; can you say freefall?



385.... :nervous:



Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 19:12:37
I don't know about other states, but today we went to do our food shopping, and I saw 4-5 gas stations that had no gas.







Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 19:18:46
Haven't seen that around here...yet. But prices are up 7 cents in 24 hours.



That I don't understand. It was in the tank yesterday, how can the cost of already delivered gas go up?



It's like if you have oil heat. You buy 50 gallons at whatever price it is...it's in your tank. How can the price go up? Is your oil man going to bill you for the difference on oil you already own?





Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 19:27:07
Dow at 411....

Comment by clintster on 09/15/2008 19:30:08
Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 19:32:28
Summabiatch



Today in Florida, McCAin had a rally and who warmed up the crowd for him? Jeb Bush. What I find interesting about that is this snippet of information from the article
With the Lehman Brothers news dominating headlines, McCain sought to offer himself up as a reformer who would not look to taxpayers for help, as has happened in other bailouts.



"We believe the time has come and gone that the taxpayers should be viewed as the solution of the problems that are not their making," McCain said. He did not offer specifics.



McCain got a warmup from Crist and former Gov. Jeb Bush, who got a rousing reception from the crowd.



"This is a perilous world," said Bush, a member of the Lehman Brothers board. "Much better to have someone who sits in the Oval Office that understands how the world is and doesn't coddle dictators and doesn't want to openly discuss anything, any time with our enemies."


Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 19:35:09
Comment by Scoopster on 09/15/2008 19:38:59


:blink: I thought she was into women?!

Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 19:39:51
Quote by TriSec:

Quote by Random:

Reason 342(not to elect McCain): McCain is REALLY old.




Damn, that's a real picture? Looks like a caricature to me.



eeep!







I think It's photo shopped.

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 19:41:04
Quote by Scoopster:



:blink: I thought she was into women?!


She might swing both ways.

Comment by clintster on 09/15/2008 19:41:29
Quote by Scoopster:



:blink: I thought she was into women?!




That's just the Squeezy talkin'.





Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 19:48:31
Quote by clintster:

Sadness


:( I will see him on the dark side of the moon.

Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 19:54:50
Out of Touch



In years to come, this will be known just as 1929 Market Crash.

Well, Recession, here we come.

Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 20:00:56
-441.



OK, now I'm a little nervous. Should we be stocking up on dried beans and rice?





Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 20:01:05
So the market has closed. Still waiting for the final numbers... At 457 it was at 452...

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 20:02:57
What exactly is Bush doing to fix this? Specifically?



And What the FUCK is john *let the market take care of itself* McCAin going to do?



His effing campaign advisor was a lobbyist to deregulate Fannie and Freddie for gawds sake!!!!

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 20:05:22
-494.38?



Then it popped to 495!

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 20:05:51
F*ck... we broke 500.

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 20:05:55
F*ck... we broke 500.

Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 20:08:08
Dow down 504.48 for the day. Closed below 11,000.

Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 20:08:55
Random senses bad things....500 bad?

Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 20:10:24
Dow -503.99 -4.41% 10,918.00

NASDAQ -81.36 -3.60% 2,179.91

S&P -58.04 -4.64% 1,193.66

DJ Wilshire 5000 -572.37 -4.48% 12,192.51

Russell 2000 -30.46 -4.23% 689.80

Philadelphia Semiconductor -8.22 -2.55% 311.91

Dow Transports -116.19 -2.29% 4,957.88

Dow Utilities -13.74 -2.99% 445.37

NYSE Composite -407.24 -5.03% 7,684.60

AMEX Composite -59.04 -3.10% 1,846.71

Morningstar Index -131.75 -4.28% 2,945.77



and even more good news.







Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 20:10:56
Quote by Random:

Out of Touch



In years to come, this will be known just as 1929 Market Crash.

Well, Recession, here we come.


Quite funny...

Donald Luskin, McCain blogger says "Market isn't that bad"

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 20:14:20
Quote by TriSec:

Dow -503.99 -4.41% 10,918.00

NASDAQ -81.36 -3.60% 2,179.91

S&P -58.04 -4.64% 1,193.66

DJ Wilshire 5000 -572.37 -4.48% 12,192.51

Russell 2000 -30.46 -4.23% 689.80

Philadelphia Semiconductor -8.22 -2.55% 311.91

Dow Transports -116.19 -2.29% 4,957.88

Dow Utilities -13.74 -2.99% 445.37

NYSE Composite -407.24 -5.03% 7,684.60

AMEX Composite -59.04 -3.10% 1,846.71

Morningstar Index -131.75 -4.28% 2,945.77



and even more good news.





I fear for what the international markets are going to look like.



Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 20:15:03
Quote by Random:

Quote by Random:

Out of Touch



In years to come, this will be known just as 1929 Market Crash.

Well, Recession, here we come.


Quite funny...

Donald Luskin, McCain blogger says "Market isn't that bad"
You see, NOW we have entered just plain LYING mode.



There is no more to spin. NONE.



Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 20:15:38
I believe it just became necessary for your loyal TriSec to work until the day he dies. And Javi is now reduced to a sports scholarship, since the service academies are out of the question.



Thanks again, Mr. President!









Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 20:16:08
Quote by Random:

Quote by Random:

Out of Touch



In years to come, this will be known just as 1929 Market Crash.

Well, Recession, here we come.


Quite funny...

Donald Luskin, McCain blogger says "Market isn't that bad"


Even Hoover was more in touch with the economy than Bush-McSame.

Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 20:17:15
Quote by Raine:

I fear for what the international markets are going to look like.







Well, we're heading for 'vicious cycle' territory here. It's just after 5 am in Tokyo...we'll see what happens overnight.





Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 20:17:34
Quote by TriSec:

I believe it just became necessary for your loyal TriSec to work until the day he dies. And Javi is now reduced to a sports scholarship, since the service academies are out of the question.



Thanks again, Mr. President!









If I didn't go to college back in the 80's I probably never could have afforded it.

Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 20:19:16
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Random:

Out of Touch



In years to come, this will be known just as 1929 Market Crash.

Well, Recession, here we come.


Quite funny...

Donald Luskin, McCain blogger says "Market isn't that bad"
You see, NOW we have entered just plain LYING mode.



There is no more to spin. NONE.

No in interest of being fair. Random would like to make sure that everyone knows Luskin did put this out yesterday. He had no idea his lie would be outed SO DAMN EASILY



Comment by Scoopster on 09/15/2008 20:20:51
Wow.. the Dow was hovering between 200-250 points down all day and in the last hour it just completely TANKED.

Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 20:30:24
Well, I'm heading home now.



I just tried to call my financial guy, he sure picked a hell of a day to start vacation!!





Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 20:31:13
It gets really weird listening to Randi and hearing this ad on how you can get rich flipping houses while the economy has gone downward.



Oy vey.



I think we need that Republican emoticon that AAP had?

Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 20:31:14
http://chart.bigcharts.com/custom/cnnmoney-com/markets/big.chart?ClientID=44711&symb=djia&sid=1000001643&time=1dy&freq=5mi&type=256&mocktick=1&symbtype=0&country=US&rtsid=1000001643&style=2000&size=1&uf=8192&rand=4081


Comment by Scoopster on 09/15/2008 20:32:37
It's time for "Who Said It?!" See if you can guess which celebrity said this, and no googling you cheaters!



I really cannot bite my tongue anymore when it comes to Sarah Palin. I find it quite interesting that a woman who now is running to be second in command of the United States, only four years ago had aspirations to be a television anchor, which is probably all she is qualified to be.



....



Is it a sin to be gay? Should it be a sin to be straight? Or to use birth control? Or to have sex before marriage? Or even to have a child out of wedlock?



....



Is our country so divided that the Republicans' best hope is a narrow-minded, media obsessed homophobe?


Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 20:35:18
Quote by Scoopster:

It's time for "Who Said It?!" See if you can guess which celebrity said this, and no googling you cheaters!



I really cannot bite my tongue anymore when it comes to Sarah Palin. I find it quite interesting that a woman who now is running to be second in command of the United States, only four years ago had aspirations to be a television anchor, which is probably all she is qualified to be.



....



Is it a sin to be gay? Should it be a sin to be straight? Or to use birth control? Or to have sex before marriage? Or even to have a child out of wedlock?



....



Is our country so divided that the Republicans' best hope is a narrow-minded, media obsessed homophobe?






Lindsey Lohan

Comment by Scoopster on 09/15/2008 20:42:07
Quote by Random:

Quote by Scoopster:

It's time for "Who Said It?!" See if you can guess which celebrity said this, and no googling you cheaters!



I really cannot bite my tongue anymore when it comes to Sarah Palin. I find it quite interesting that a woman who now is running to be second in command of the United States, only four years ago had aspirations to be a television anchor, which is probably all she is qualified to be.



....



Is it a sin to be gay? Should it be a sin to be straight? Or to use birth control? Or to have sex before marriage? Or even to have a child out of wedlock?



....



Is our country so divided that the Republicans' best hope is a narrow-minded, media obsessed homophobe?




Lindsey Lohan


Random is correct! Congrats - you've just won our prize package which includes...



A Sarah Palin action figure!



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00802/460-palin-doll_802406c.jpg




A pack of John McCain condoms!



http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/cwillow894/mccaincondoms.jpg




And last but not least.... the fundamentals of the economy! ... wait, I'm sorry but I've just been informed they've been liquidated to China and the UAE.

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 20:42:36
Today has literally made me dizzy.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/15/2008 20:44:47
Carly Fiorina thinks SNL's Hillary/Palin skit is sexist!



Well Carly, I hope for our sake they correct that by doing a skit about YOUR IDIOTIC POINT OF VIEW to counteract that image.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/15/2008 20:50:25
Quote by Scoopster:

Carly Fiorina thinks SNL's Hillary/Palin skit is sexist!



Well Carly, I hope for our sake the correct that by doing a skit about YOUR IDIOTIC POINT OF VIEW to counteract that image.






Welcome to the new meme, Scoop. Any lampooning, satirizing, or parodying on Sarah Palin is disrespectful & sexist. However Rush can still say anything hurtful, racist, disrespectful or sexist because you see he is an entertainer.

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 20:50:25
Quote by Scoopster:

Carly Fiorina thinks SNL's Hillary/Palin skit is sexist!



Well Carly, I hope for our sake they correct that by doing a skit about YOUR IDIOTIC POINT OF VIEW to counteract that image.
Carly Fiorina having a uterous is sexist to me.



Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 20:52:31
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Scoopster:

Carly Fiorina thinks SNL's Hillary/Palin skit is sexist!



Well Carly, I hope for our sake the correct that by doing a skit about YOUR IDIOTIC POINT OF VIEW to counteract that image.






Welcome to the new meme, Scoop. Any lampooning, satirizing, or parodying on Sarah Palin is disrespectful & sexist. However Rush can still say anything hurtful, racist, disrespectful or sexist because you see he is an entertainer.


Like calling Chelsea Clinton a dog.

Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 20:54:29
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Scoopster:

Carly Fiorina thinks SNL's Hillary/Palin skit is sexist!



Well Carly, I hope for our sake the correct that by doing a skit about YOUR IDIOTIC POINT OF VIEW to counteract that image.






Welcome to the new meme, Scoop. Any lampooning, satirizing, or parodying on Sarah Palin is disrespectful & sexist. However Rush can still say anything hurtful, racist, disrespectful or sexist because you see he is an entertainer.


Making jokes of Michael J. Fox, sick kids, Hillary Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, and of course, Stephanie Miller, are quite alright.

Comment by clintster on 09/15/2008 21:02:42
Quote by Scoopster:

Carly Fiorina thinks SNL's Hillary/Palin skit is sexist!



Well Carly, I hope for our sake they correct that by doing a skit about YOUR IDIOTIC POINT OF VIEW to counteract that image.




How... PC of her. Remember when political correctness was some sort of islamomexihomoliberalfascist plot to destroy conservatives' sense of "fun"? What happened with all of that?

Comment by Scoopster on 09/15/2008 21:06:46
Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Scoopster:

Carly Fiorina thinks SNL's Hillary/Palin skit is sexist!



Well Carly, I hope for our sake the correct that by doing a skit about YOUR IDIOTIC POINT OF VIEW to counteract that image.






Welcome to the new meme, Scoop. Any lampooning, satirizing, or parodying on Sarah Palin is disrespectful & sexist. However Rush can still say anything hurtful, racist, disrespectful or sexist because you see he is an entertainer.


Like calling Chelsea Clinton a dog.


Oh I just chalk that one up to blindness. Anyone with two working eyes can see that Chelsea is .... err.... much prettier than a dog.



Aye I'm smitten..

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/15/2008 21:28:15
Ignore the lauditory prose style and focus on her quotes. So you are going to reform regulation? How? Remember dear lady that your campaign's go to guy on economics is the same fella that got us into this mess!

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/15/2008 21:29:51
Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Scoopster:

Carly Fiorina thinks SNL's Hillary/Palin skit is sexist!



Well Carly, I hope for our sake the correct that by doing a skit about YOUR IDIOTIC POINT OF VIEW to counteract that image.






Welcome to the new meme, Scoop. Any lampooning, satirizing, or parodying on Sarah Palin is disrespectful & sexist. However Rush can still say anything hurtful, racist, disrespectful or sexist because you see he is an entertainer.


Like calling Chelsea Clinton a dog.


Oh I just chalk that one up to blindness. Anyone with two working eyes can see that Chelsea is .... err.... much prettier than a dog.



Aye I'm smitten..




Oh yes young Ms Clinton got it goin on!

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 22:07:02
Ok... THIS I NEED as an audicon.

And please, can we call it







Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 22:10:10
http://images.dawgsports.com/images/admin/Kevin_Bacon_Animal_House.jpg


Everyone remain calm!!! ALL is well!!!


Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/15/2008 22:16:38
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Scoopster:

Quote by livingonli:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Scoopster:

Carly Fiorina thinks SNL's Hillary/Palin skit is sexist!



Well Carly, I hope for our sake the correct that by doing a skit about YOUR IDIOTIC POINT OF VIEW to counteract that image.






Welcome to the new meme, Scoop. Any lampooning, satirizing, or parodying on Sarah Palin is disrespectful & sexist. However Rush can still say anything hurtful, racist, disrespectful or sexist because you see he is an entertainer.


Like calling Chelsea Clinton a dog.


Oh I just chalk that one up to blindness. Anyone with two working eyes can see that Chelsea is .... err.... much prettier than a dog.



Aye I'm smitten..




Oh yes young Ms Clinton got it goin on!




And of course what Fiorina did to HP is just an all-out fucking laugh riot.



Comment by livingonli on 09/15/2008 22:19:21
I'm heading out. Meeting up with some people at the Roosevelt Field food court. Talk to everyone when I get back.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/15/2008 22:54:03
Quote by Raine:

http://images.dawgsports.com/images/admin/Kevin_Bacon_Animal_House.jpg


Everyone remain calm!!! ALL is well!!!




Ah, thanks Raine! I figured someone would post that sometime.



Comment by Shane-O on 09/15/2008 22:55:24
Quote by Raine:

Ok... THIS I NEED as an audicon.

And please, can we call it











Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 23:04:43
I love you Shane.

I do!!!

Comment by Random on 09/15/2008 23:05:41
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Raine:

Ok... THIS I NEED as an audicon.

And please, can we call it











Okay...Why the heck does my browser not show audiocons?

Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 23:10:52
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by Raine:

http://images.dawgsports.com/images/admin/Kevin_Bacon_Animal_House.jpg


Everyone remain calm!!! ALL is well!!!




Ah, thanks Raine! I figured someone would post that sometime.





Update, Chip, 30 years later... :



http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/5c909c84.jpg


Everyone remain calm!!! ALL is well!!!




Comment by TriSec on 09/15/2008 23:20:48
Quote by livingonli:

I'm heading out. Meeting up with some people at the Roosevelt Field food court. Talk to everyone when I get back.




: ears prick up :



As in historic (now defunct) Roosevelt field, origin of Lindbergh's flight?





Comment by Raine on 09/15/2008 23:20:55
That was more literal than satirical everyone!

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/15/2008 23:22:30
Quote by Raine:

http://images.dawgsports.com/images/admin/Kevin_Bacon_Animal_House.jpg


Everyone remain calm!!! ALL is well!!!






Chip Diller! I was thinking of self same idea earlier. :rofl:

Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/15/2008 23:40:43
Milfy McMooseburger belongs nowhere near Washington.



What's even more disturbing is that YouTube REMOVED this video. You can bet your ass if Obama was tied up in this there'd be no problem with this being shown, though it probably would be on Faux Noise 24/7.

Comment by Raine on 09/16/2008 00:00:53
Quote by trojanrabbit:

Milfy McMooseburger belongs nowhere near Washington.



What's even more disturbing is that YouTube REMOVED this video. You can bet your ass if Obama was tied up in this there'd be no problem with this being shown, though it probably would be on Faux Noise 24/7.






As much as I enjoy youtube, the days of them being the gatekeepers are LONG over.



That is scary stuff -- and it will NOT be kept down. (it went up tp my face book. I hope you all put it up to yours as well. Just because youtube doesn't want it to go viral does not mean it won't. Viral and youtube are no longer exclusive)







Comment by Random on 09/16/2008 00:11:50
Quote by Raine:

Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by Raine:

http://images.dawgsports.com/images/admin/Kevin_Bacon_Animal_House.jpg


Everyone remain calm!!! ALL is well!!!




Ah, thanks Raine! I figured someone would post that sometime.





Update, Chip, 30 years later... :



http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/5c909c84.jpg


Everyone remain calm!!! ALL is well!!!




And no one makes the joke?

6 degrees of Kevin Bacon?

Comment by Random on 09/16/2008 00:28:08
KEEP AMERICA SAFE!

VOTE McCAIN PALIN!

Comment by Raine on 09/16/2008 00:33:05
OMG. anyone watching KO? the DVD story?

Comment by Raine on 09/16/2008 00:35:37
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by Raine:

http://images.dawgsports.com/images/admin/Kevin_Bacon_Animal_House.jpg


Everyone remain calm!!! ALL is well!!!




Ah, thanks Raine! I figured someone would post that sometime.





Update, Chip, 30 years later... :



http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/5c909c84.jpg


Everyone remain calm!!! ALL is well!!!




And no one makes the joke?

6 degrees of Kevin Bacon?
Thank You!!!! Finally! My photoshop did not go to waste!!!



Random I you!



Comment by Random on 09/16/2008 00:36:11
Quote by Raine:

OMG. anyone watching KO? the DVD story?


So...My reference to the sign didn't give it away that Random is watching KO?



Creepy DVD. I almost want to see it for some reason...drawn to the idiocy.

Comment by Random on 09/16/2008 00:40:39
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by trojanrabbit:

Quote by Raine:

http://images.dawgsports.com/images/admin/Kevin_Bacon_Animal_House.jpg


Everyone remain calm!!! ALL is well!!!




Ah, thanks Raine! I figured someone would post that sometime.





Update, Chip, 30 years later... :



http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/raine1967/5c909c84.jpg


Everyone remain calm!!! ALL is well!!!




And no one makes the joke?

6 degrees of Kevin Bacon?
Thank You!!!! Finally! My photoshop did not go to waste!!!



Random I you!

for commenting? or for making the only Kevin Bacon reference i know.



Comment by TriSec on 09/16/2008 00:44:17
Jeebus.



If I'm reading this right, the Nikkei average is down over 500 points in the first 45 minutes of trading in Tokyo.



Hold onto your butts.





Comment by Mondobubba on 09/16/2008 01:01:42
Rachel, I love. But, I love me some History Detectives more.

Comment by Raine on 09/16/2008 01:20:56
Quote by TriSec:

Jeebus.



If I'm reading this right, the Nikkei average is down over 500 points in the first 45 minutes of trading in Tokyo.



Hold onto your butts.



Charlie Jeb bush Crist.



if I hear anyone telling me again the economy is sound, I will kick them. Jackie Chan style.



And Random... for both reasons. ;)



Rach is rocking tonite. and troopergate is getting more and more interesting.



Funny... This trooper gate is so different from Bubba's, eh?



Comment by Mondobubba on 09/16/2008 01:43:05
Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

Jeebus.



If I'm reading this right, the Nikkei average is down over 500 points in the first 45 minutes of trading in Tokyo.



Hold onto your butts.



Charlie Jeb bush Crist.



if I hear anyone telling me again the economy is sound, I will kick them. Jackie Chan style.



And Random... for both reasons. ;)



Rach is rocking tonite. and troopergate is getting more and more interesting.



Funny... This trooper gate is so different from Bubba's, eh?





Um because there is substance to this Troopergate?

Comment by Shane-O on 09/16/2008 01:43:39
Quote by Random:

for commenting? or for making the only Kevin Bacon reference i know.



John McCain was in Wedding Crashers with Christopher Walken; Christopher Walken was in The Deer Hunter with Robert DeNiro; and Robert DeNiro was in Sleepers with Kevin Bacon.



Three is the best I could think of using only movies. If you add TeeVee - Walken was in a random (NOT Random™) episode of The Guiding Light with Kevin Bacon - so - two there.



And Obama is the celebrity???



Comment by TriSec on 09/16/2008 02:12:00
Well, we'll see what the morning brings. Trading in Asia/Pacific markets:



Hong Kong: Down 1,027.25 (5.31%)

Nikkei: Down 577.56 (4.73%)

ASX 100(Australia): Down 92.600 (2.37%)



It's 7 hours yet for MDAX (Germany) and the FTSE (UK).





Comment by Raine on 09/16/2008 02:23:10
Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:

for commenting? or for making the only Kevin Bacon reference i know.



John McCain was in Wedding Crashers with Christopher Walken; Christopher Walken was in The Deer Hunter with Robert DeNiro; and Robert DeNiro was in Sleepers with Kevin Bacon.



Three is the best I could think of using only movies. If you add TeeVee - Walken was in a random (NOT Random™) episode of The Guiding Light with Kevin Bacon - so - two there.



And Obama is the celebrity???

Holy crap. that might have been one of the BEST 6 degrees ever.



All I have was that my old friend Giemma dumped him. She just wasn't that into him. I lost touch with her, guess she wasn't that into me! BUT we both met Martha Stewart at the job I met her... So I guess, we helped the degrees, huh?

Comment by Raine on 09/16/2008 02:24:52
Quote by TriSec:

Well, we'll see what the morning brings. Trading in Asia/Pacific markets:



Hong Kong: Down 1,027.25 (5.31%)

Nikkei: Down 577.56 (4.73%)

ASX 100(Australia): Down 92.600 (2.37%)



It's 7 hours yet for MDAX (Germany) and the FTSE (UK).



I am trying here to smile.



But this is not good news.



Go on... tell me the economy is sound. I got my Jackie Chan move ready to go.



Comment by Random on 09/16/2008 02:25:07
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:

for commenting? or for making the only Kevin Bacon reference i know.



John McCain was in Wedding Crashers with Christopher Walken; Christopher Walken was in The Deer Hunter with Robert DeNiro; and Robert DeNiro was in Sleepers with Kevin Bacon.



Three is the best I could think of using only movies. If you add TeeVee - Walken was in a random (NOT Random™) episode of The Guiding Light with Kevin Bacon - so - two there.



And Obama is the celebrity???

Holy crap. that might have been one of the BEST 6 degrees ever.



All I have was that my old friend Giemma dumped him. She just wasn't that into him. I lost touch with her, guess she wasn't that into me! BUT we both met Martha Stewart at the job I met her... So I guess, we helped the degrees, huh?


Waaaaait. John McCain was in Wedding Crashers?

Comment by Random on 09/16/2008 02:29:06
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:

for commenting? or for making the only Kevin Bacon reference i know.



John McCain was in Wedding Crashers with Christopher Walken; Christopher Walken was in The Deer Hunter with Robert DeNiro; and Robert DeNiro was in Sleepers with Kevin Bacon.



Three is the best I could think of using only movies. If you add TeeVee - Walken was in a random (NOT Random™) episode of The Guiding Light with Kevin Bacon - so - two there.



And Obama is the celebrity???

Holy crap. that might have been one of the BEST 6 degrees ever.



All I have was that my old friend Giemma dumped him. She just wasn't that into him. I lost touch with her, guess she wasn't that into me! BUT we both met Martha Stewart at the job I met her... So I guess, we helped the degrees, huh?


John McCain was in Wedding Crashers with Christopher Walken; Christopher Walken was in Meet Joe Dirt with Fred Ward; Fred Ward was in Tremors with Kevin Bacon



Not shorter, but Tremors, not only the only Kevin Bacon movie I've ever seen, But Random's all time, will kill you if you bad mouth it, Favorite Movie of all time

Comment by Raine on 09/16/2008 02:37:20
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

Jeebus.



If I'm reading this right, the Nikkei average is down over 500 points in the first 45 minutes of trading in Tokyo.



Hold onto your butts.



Charlie Jeb bush Crist.



if I hear anyone telling me again the economy is sound, I will kick them. Jackie Chan style.



And Random... for both reasons. ;)



Rach is rocking tonite. and troopergate is getting more and more interesting.



Funny... This trooper gate is so different from Bubba's, eh?





Um because there is substance to this Troopergate?
Let's review a Sarah Palin Job application:



Applicant: Moo.I lahk Cows. Can you give me a job?



Sarah: DeePaynds. did you vote for me as home coming queen? And are you into creamy milky liquids?



Applicant: Sarah!! Yes!!! don't you remember me? I helped Club that biatch Nancy to help you win the winter skating pageant!



Sarah: Oh yeeeah! wOwooo... I toootahlly remember yoou! You look so hot! I can Hire you, no prahbleem. Ooonleeee one queeeshtion, are you willing to kick my sisters soon to be ex's arse?



Applicant: Fer shur. Just make me Captain of the Chearleader skwahd, seerah. I am all aboot yoo. Oh, and kin I git a koo? A hoolstien? Duncha remember hoo much wee loved the koos?



Sarah: Oh yes, I love koos. I gotcher Koo, and yoo gotta a job, now go see my guy Taaaad. Yoo are my AHgrikulture gal.



:P







Comment by Mondobubba on 09/16/2008 02:45:52
Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

Jeebus.



If I'm reading this right, the Nikkei average is down over 500 points in the first 45 minutes of trading in Tokyo.



Hold onto your butts.



Charlie Jeb bush Crist.



if I hear anyone telling me again the economy is sound, I will kick them. Jackie Chan style.



And Random... for both reasons. ;)



Rach is rocking tonite. and troopergate is getting more and more interesting.



Funny... This trooper gate is so different from Bubba's, eh?





Um because there is substance to this Troopergate?
Let's review a Sarah Palin Job application:



Applicant: Moo.I lahk Cows. Can you give me a job?



Sarah: DeePaynds. did you vote for me as home coming queen? And are you into creamy milky liquids?



Applicant: Sarah!! Yes!!! don't you remember me? I helped Club that biatch Nancy to help you win the winter skating pageant!



Sarah: Oh yeeeah! wOwooo... I toootahlly remember yoou! You look so hot! I can Hire you, no prahbleem. Ooonleeee one queeeshtion, are you willing to kick my sisters soon to be ex's arse?



Applicant: Fer shur. Just make me Captain of the Chearleader skwahd, seerah. I am all aboot yoo. Oh, and kin I git a koo? A hoolstien? Duncha remember hoo much wee loved the koos?



Sarah: Oh yes, I love koos. I gotcher Koo, and yoo gotta a job, now go see my guy Taaaad. Yoo are my AHgrikulture gal.



:P











And scene! You, Madam are a deelight! :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 09/16/2008 02:48:44
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:

for commenting? or for making the only Kevin Bacon reference i know.



John McCain was in Wedding Crashers with Christopher Walken; Christopher Walken was in The Deer Hunter with Robert DeNiro; and Robert DeNiro was in Sleepers with Kevin Bacon.



Three is the best I could think of using only movies. If you add TeeVee - Walken was in a random (NOT Random™) episode of The Guiding Light with Kevin Bacon - so - two there.



And Obama is the celebrity???

Holy crap. that might have been one of the BEST 6 degrees ever.



All I have was that my old friend Giemma dumped him. She just wasn't that into him. I lost touch with her, guess she wasn't that into me! BUT we both met Martha Stewart at the job I met her... So I guess, we helped the degrees, huh?


John McCain was in Wedding Crashers with Christopher Walken; Christopher Walken was in Meet Joe Dirt with Fred Ward; Fred Ward was in Tremors with Kevin Bacon



Not shorter, but Tremors, not only the only Kevin Bacon movie I've ever seen, But Random's all time, will kill you if you bad mouth it, Favorite Movie of all time
:neener: I will not bad mouth tremors.



Kevin is in my opinion, on of the MOST underrated talents in Hollywood. I love him, depite Footloose. Watch *Murder in the First*



I love Kevin, I just feel bad that Giemma thought he was a sucky kisser.







Comment by Mondobubba on 09/16/2008 02:49:20
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:

for commenting? or for making the only Kevin Bacon reference i know.



John McCain was in Wedding Crashers with Christopher Walken; Christopher Walken was in The Deer Hunter with Robert DeNiro; and Robert DeNiro was in Sleepers with Kevin Bacon.



Three is the best I could think of using only movies. If you add TeeVee - Walken was in a random (NOT Random™) episode of The Guiding Light with Kevin Bacon - so - two there.



And Obama is the celebrity???

Holy crap. that might have been one of the BEST 6 degrees ever.



All I have was that my old friend Giemma dumped him. She just wasn't that into him. I lost touch with her, guess she wasn't that into me! BUT we both met Martha Stewart at the job I met her... So I guess, we helped the degrees, huh?


John McCain was in Wedding Crashers with Christopher Walken; Christopher Walken was in Meet Joe Dirt with Fred Ward; Fred Ward was in Tremors with Kevin Bacon



Not shorter, but Tremors, not only the only Kevin Bacon movie I've ever seen, But Random's all time, will kill you if you bad mouth it, Favorite Movie of all time




Funniest 'horror' movie of all time! It is freakin' brilliant!

Comment by Raine on 09/16/2008 02:50:06
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by TriSec:

Jeebus.



If I'm reading this right, the Nikkei average is down over 500 points in the first 45 minutes of trading in Tokyo.



Hold onto your butts.



Charlie Jeb bush Crist.



if I hear anyone telling me again the economy is sound, I will kick them. Jackie Chan style.



And Random... for both reasons. ;)



Rach is rocking tonite. and troopergate is getting more and more interesting.



Funny... This trooper gate is so different from Bubba's, eh?





Um because there is substance to this Troopergate?
Let's review a Sarah Palin Job application:



Applicant: Moo.I lahk Cows. Can you give me a job?



Sarah: DeePaynds. did you vote for me as home coming queen? And are you into creamy milky liquids?



Applicant: Sarah!! Yes!!! don't you remember me? I helped Club that biatch Nancy to help you win the winter skating pageant!



Sarah: Oh yeeeah! wOwooo... I toootahlly remember yoou! You look so hot! I can Hire you, no prahbleem. Ooonleeee one queeeshtion, are you willing to kick my sisters soon to be ex's arse?



Applicant: Fer shur. Just make me Captain of the Chearleader skwahd, seerah. I am all aboot yoo. Oh, and kin I git a koo? A hoolstien? Duncha remember hoo much wee loved the koos?



Sarah: Oh yes, I love koos. I gotcher Koo, and yoo gotta a job, now go see my guy Taaaad. Yoo are my AHgrikulture gal.



:P











And scene! You, Madam are a deelight! :rofl:


:danke:









Comment by Raine on 09/16/2008 02:52:44
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by Shane-O:

Quote by Random:

for commenting? or for making the only Kevin Bacon reference i know.



John McCain was in Wedding Crashers with Christopher Walken; Christopher Walken was in The Deer Hunter with Robert DeNiro; and Robert DeNiro was in Sleepers with Kevin Bacon.



Three is the best I could think of using only movies. If you add TeeVee - Walken was in a random (NOT Random™) episode of The Guiding Light with Kevin Bacon - so - two there.



And Obama is the celebrity???

Holy crap. that might have been one of the BEST 6 degrees ever.



All I have was that my old friend Giemma dumped him. She just wasn't that into him. I lost touch with her, guess she wasn't that into me! BUT we both met Martha Stewart at the job I met her... So I guess, we helped the degrees, huh?


Waaaaait. John McCain was in Wedding Crashers?
yes.







Comment by livingonli on 09/16/2008 03:50:26
I got home a half-hour go. Had to stop at the supermarket after the get-together.



MSNBC is repeating Rachel at 11. Looks like they've dumped the weeknight doc block. I hope.