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Libertarian Saturday
Author: TriSec    Date: 10/11/2008 13:04:26

Good Morning!

Well, the Red Sox have won game 1 at Tropicana field. I don't know about you, but last night really showcased everything that's wrong with baseball today. A dome with strange field rules, artificial turf, designated hitters....and of course the ludicrous 8:30 start. I've said it many, many times before....during the regular season, the games start at 7:05. Why not during the playoffs? I hardly think there's any interest in these games outside the team cities, at least until the World Series. But even then, 8:30 on the East Coast is just 5:30 out west...who's going to watch a game during rush hour? (And isn't all the money and most of the ratings points on the East Coast, anyway? Come on MLB, how about a little common sense?)

Ah, but I digress. TriSec tends to bloviate about baseball incessantly...


Speaking of bloviation, have we all been keeping up with the debates? Well, so has Bob Barr, and like it happens every four years, the third-party candidates are getting tossed a few crumbs by the media in the hopes they'll go away. But don't you think everyone running for high office should get an equal chance? It certainly would make things more interesting, and maybe even knock a few scales away from some eyes. Bob's written a column, originally posted over at HuffPo about it...




The presidential and vice-presidential "debates" are awful. The bloviating is excessive; the substance is minimal; and the moderating is bush league.

Virtually no one has been satisfied with the debates so far--except perhaps Barack Obama's campaign staff. The less substantive and contentious the debate is, and the less interesting the discussion--the better it is for the political front-runner, but not for the American people.

Obviously, part of the problem is procedural. We have moderators who seem more interested in squelching than in promoting real disagreement. We have formats that rule out the genuine give-and-take of an organic debate.

Imagine, for instance, how Sarah Palin would have performed if she had been called for ignoring questions and challenged for her repetitive canned generalities. Or, imagine if the presidential candidates each had 15 minutes to make their respective cases, followed by five-minute rebuttals and a question and answer period in which both could respond to each other. We might actually learn something about the candidates, other than their skill at dodging controversy. Rather than seeing these prospective presidents be forced to operate outside their own comfort zones, all the voters see are candidates doing their best to stay within their debate preparations--hardly "presidential!"

However, the biggest failing of the three contests so far is substantive. For all of the noise and fury of the campaign, Senators Barack Obama and John McCain agree more than they disagree. Both support the $2 trillion succession of federal bailouts of anyone remotely connected to Wall Street or the housing industry. Both support an expensive, imperial foreign policy, in which the U.S. subsidizes its wealthy friends and attempts to remake failed societies.

Additionally, both support massive regulation in the name of fighting climate change. Both backed warrantless surveillance of Americans' phone calls and email. Both believe in endless energy subsidies and regulation. Both spent most of their careers opposing increased drilling for oil and natural gas at home. Both want to increase the size and expense of the military--at home and abroad.

Even their differences are distressingly small. Both would stay in Iraq for a time; they just argue whether the occupation should continue two or four years, or some other longer period of time. Sen. McCain used to join Sen. Obama in opposing tax cuts. Now, as a candidate for president, Sen. McCain says he is for them. To his credit, Sen. McCain wants to cut pork, but that is only about $18 billion in 2008, compared to the $2 trillion worth of bailouts that he supported.

There is one more debate scheduled, and it desperately needs another voice: An alternative candidate to challenge the false, but shared, assumptions of Senators Obama and McCain. The political establishment has bungled America's foreign policy and wrecked America's economy, but refuses to accept responsibility for its mistakes. The conventional wisdom has failed, but the two establishment candidates will talk about nothing else.

Add Bob Barr to the upcoming debate and open up its format, and I promise that the American people will enjoy a real debate that is focused on the issues. We will talk about substance, not fluff. And the American people will learn that they do have a genuine choice on November 4th--a candidate committed to making real change in Washington.




The good news for the LP though, is ballot access. In recent years, they have been blocked at every turn by the restrictive rules set up by the two major parties. Bob Barr might not be getting much traction nationally, but the herculean effort taking place behind the scenes to get in all 50 states is yielding real progress. As of this morning, the LP is on the ballot in 45 states. The last five are: Connecticut, Louisiana, Maine, Oklahoma, and West Virginia. Alas, Bob has had little traction, even in his home state of Georgia. I doubt there's any hope for any vote siphoning from the Republicans, but if the McCain campaign continues to implode, you never know...


Changing gears just a bit, we'll check in on the bailout rescue package that we all can't seem to get enough of these days... It should probably come as no surprise that those legislators friendly with the banking industry voted yes, while those without such ties were more likely to vote no. Of course, those bankers had some extra grease for the palms of their pet legislators....up to 54% more, in fact. And it cuts across party lines, too.


BERKELEY, CA—Members of the U.S. House of Representatives today voted against a $700 billion financial system bailout. MAPLight.org has found that, over the past five years, banks and securities firms gave an average of $231,877 in campaign contributions to each Representative voting in favor of the bailout, compared with an average of $150,982 to each Representative voting against the bailout--54 percent more money given to those who voted Yes. 205 Representatives voted Yes and 228 voted No, with 1 Not Voting.

House Democrats split their votes on this bill, 140 voting Yes and 95 voting No. Democrats voting Yes received an average of $212,700 each, about twice as much as those voting No, $107,993.

House Republicans also split their votes on this bill, 65 voting Yes and 133 voting No (and 1 not voting). Republicans voting Yes received an average of $273,181 each, 50% more than those voting No, $181,688.

“Profit-driven companies wouldn't be making campaign contributions if it didn't buy them influence or access," said Daniel Newman, MAPLight.org's executive director. “Votes in Congress align with the river of money that flows through our political system.”



Lastly, since we're all in need of a chuckle these days, "Cracked" magazine (remember them?) has posted a handy list of the 5 most clearly insane public figures endorsing John McCain.


 

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Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/11/2008 13:30:49
After looking at yesterday's title again, was just wondering if BobR was a Dave Berg fan?



TriSec, yes the 8:30 $tart was LUDICROU$. I wonder if Larry and Stephanie were in a good mood after the Dodgers went down 2-0. Of course, I zonked out by the 3rd inning anyway and awoke after my TiVo took control and started recording Monty Python.



I am totally zombified today. Just before I left work yesterday my boss came to the realization that there was no way that we were going to get everything we needed done this weekend so he asked me if I wanted to work today. Of course, I can't really say no, but I was really looking forward to today off knowing I was working Sunday night. I dragged myself out of bed at 4AM and caught the first bit of LKL (the parts about Palin abusing her power but not doing anything illegal??? and McCain having to defend Obama from his nutty racist base) before the kitties clamored to be fed (I'm so out of it I don't have any idea how good Mama looked)



As Murphy would have it, nothing is working right this morning, I had to practice my atrophied soldering skills but at least now things are under control and I'm getting some work done.

Comment by velveeta jones on 10/11/2008 13:58:30
Artificial turf! :shudder: There should be a law........!!!

Great post TriSec. And I am certainly happy that BoSox won. I'm happy for you, that is. :lol:

Comment by Raine on 10/11/2008 14:10:16
Good Morning! Father has left town...

Comment by TriSec on 10/11/2008 14:40:10






Comment by Random on 10/11/2008 15:19:10
Random's got himself a blog...

Random Thoughts and Observations



Please stop by, i may even update it one day.

Comment by Raine on 10/11/2008 15:33:56
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2008/10/1008_sarah_palin_landov_full2.jpg


Comment by Raine on 10/11/2008 15:50:41
McCain is now going after Michelle for Bill Ayers ties. Why? because his wife worked at the same Law Firm as Michelle.





Comment by Raine on 10/11/2008 16:24:22
:dance: I have put on my Curtis MAyfield best of Album... (raine dances around in big bell bottoms and platform boots, Scarf around head and Peace Sign waving...)





Far out man...

Comment by m-hadley on 10/11/2008 16:31:41
Heya TriSec, Raine, Velveeta, Paul and Random,

Yesterday was my nephew's 12th Birthday and he is a huge Red Sox fan (being born in Boston :D), so I am happy for both Tri and Joe (my nephew). Excellent post TriSec - I loved the link to the five Insane People Who Endorsed McCain. I'm in the office today - trying to avoid being shot at if I am caught away from a TeeVee here in Okie-landia during the HUGE OU vs. TX Football game (have I mentioned that they take their football a skosh seriously out here :P). Congrats on launching your blog, Random :dance:

Cheers,

mfaye



:gobama:

Comment by Raine on 10/11/2008 16:38:34
Hi faye!

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/11/2008 16:40:46
Hello from Laundry Day.

Comment by BobR on 10/11/2008 16:42:06
Quote by m-hadley:

Heya TriSec, Raine, Velveeta, Paul and Random,

Yesterday was my nephew's 12th Birthday and he is a huge Red Sox fan (being born in Boston :D), so I am happy for both Tri and Joe (my nephew). Excellent post TriSec - I loved the link to the five Insane People Who Endorsed McCain. I'm in the office today - trying to avoid being shot at if I am caught away from a TeeVee here in Okie-landia during the HUGE OU vs. TX Football game (have I mentioned that they take their football a skosh seriously out here :P). Congrats on launching your blog, Random :dance:

Cheers,

mfaye



:gobama:


Gearing up for the Ga Tech game @ 3:30 here in Casa de BRaine...

Comment by BobR on 10/11/2008 16:43:00
Quote by Mondobubba:

Hello from Laundry Day.


Greetings Laundry Day. Are you any relation to Curtis Day?

Comment by Raine on 10/11/2008 16:50:57
Amen :peace:

Comment by Raine on 10/11/2008 16:59:56
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Hello from Laundry Day.


Greetings Laundry Day. Are you any relation to Curtis Day?








Comment by livingonli on 10/11/2008 17:06:28
Good afternoon everyone.



Busy night in the salt mine and then I crashed last night and ended up sleeping until after Noon.



Did you read the right-wing comments under the Cracked piece? So, anyone who says anything bad about McCain is in the tank for Obama Once again, facts have a liberal bias.

Comment by Raine on 10/11/2008 17:16:11
No you can sing along!!!



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/11/2008 18:04:19
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:

Hello from Laundry Day.


Greetings Laundry Day. Are you any relation to Curtis Day?




No, Otis Day.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/11/2008 19:15:58
Hi everyone



Got another hour and a half to go before I can get out of here and head home. If it wasn't for yesterday's Stephanie's Sex Stack cracking me up, I'd easily be dead asleep right now.



Time to turn my test subject so it won't "burn". For the little stuff, when we do an RF immunity test it has to get all 6 sides radiated. Last side - bottoms up!

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/11/2008 19:50:22
Hmm, that bit yesterday about buying GPS voices for the TomTom is VERY old news. I've had John Cleese's voice in my TomTom almost since the day I got it over 2 years ago.

Comment by m-hadley on 10/11/2008 20:58:23
Heya Raine,

I love that YouTube song for Sarah McPalin. I added it to my own blog along with a post about the two religious encounters I had this last week (seeing the movie Religulous and attending a lecture by a Tibetan Buddhist monk). Check it out, if you are curious. Thanks so much for posting that song - it will be in head all day (in a good way). What are you and BobR up to tonight - I wish that you all could come over, I'll fire up the old grill and throw on some tube steaks and we could partay :P

Cheers,

mfaye



Mondo, Livin, Paul, Tri, and Random (any 4Fer) are all invited over, too :D



:gobama:

Comment by BobR on 10/11/2008 22:01:35
Quote by m-hadley:

Heya Raine,

I love that YouTube song for Sarah McPalin. I added it to my own blog along with a post about the two religious encounters I had this last week (seeing the movie Religulous and attending a lecture by a Tibetan Buddhist monk). Check it out, if you are curious. Thanks so much for posting that song - it will be in head all day (in a good way). What are you and BobR up to tonight - I wish that you all could come over, I'll fire up the old grill and throw on some tube steaks and we could partay :P

Cheers,

mfaye



Mondo, Livin, Paul, Tri, and Random (any 4Fer) are all invited over, too :D



:gobama:


we're just hangin' out tonight. Wish we could drop by too...



Comment by Raine on 10/11/2008 22:07:41
McCain wants repudiation from Lewis' statements.







McCain is really just an evil moFo at this point.

Comment by Raine on 10/11/2008 22:48:56
Ok, SO I am waiting for the game to coem on at 7 pm...



I hope this free center Ice thing works.

Comment by Raine on 10/11/2008 23:01:47
Comment by TriSec on 10/11/2008 23:02:26
Evening, folks. Anxiously awaiting the you tube of Palin getting Pelted...



Anyway, I'm off to the flying field tonight. Our in-flight entertainment will be game 2 of the ALCS...



Still headed west in the Martin 404 now, launching from Pierre, SD tonight. Not even close to Tulsa in the virtual world...









Comment by TriSec on 10/11/2008 23:04:29






Raine....I love you.



Don't tell Bob.





Comment by BobR on 10/11/2008 23:18:06
It was hard to tell, but it sounded like Palin got soundly booed... and I saw an Obama sign in the background... :gobama:

Comment by Raine on 10/11/2008 23:18:17
:rofl: I love that they interviewd the guy from Alaska....



he was def NOT a palin supporter!

Comment by Raine on 10/11/2008 23:21:45
Oh she was booed. The comments in the chat room at that link were hilarious.





Someone said she should have dropped the puck at a Flames game so she could add to her foriegn policy experience.

Comment by TriSec on 10/11/2008 23:24:53
She was booed...and I thought I detected a faint "Obama" chant in there...





Comment by Mondobubba on 10/11/2008 23:35:05
well that little stunt of the Flyers owner done backfired! :RMS: Nice!

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/11/2008 23:39:22




Maron v Seder bringing the funny! :rofl:

Comment by Raine on 10/12/2008 00:00:33
:thud: OK, tonite on our PBS station, they are showing the movie "Wall Street"



you know, the one ith Charlie Sheen and Michael Douglas.



Very strange indeed.

Comment by TriSec on 10/12/2008 00:11:18
Tonight's Ride...





Comment by Raine on 10/12/2008 00:11:35


They CRANKED THE MUSIC...



And I tell you what, if you had a chance to listen to the crowd after the Star Spangled Banner... you can tell what was booed and what was cheered.



There will be more videos to come, these are the first 2 on the youtube.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/12/2008 00:22:43
Quote by Raine:

:thud: OK, tonite on our PBS station, they are showing the movie "Wall Street"



you know, the one ith Charlie Sheen and Michael Douglas.



Very strange indeed.






That is a program director with a highly developed sense of humor. What a delicious post modern ironic commentary on the current economic crisis. The juxtaposition of 80s excess with these uncert.... :16 tonne Margins of Philosophy falls on head:

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/12/2008 00:25:06
As I watch the puck thingy, I stop and think don't her kids have say homework? Ya know the whole school thing?

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/12/2008 00:35:38
Thanks ShaneO for posting the Miller-Prager debate on the youtubes

Comment by BobR on 10/12/2008 00:50:02
Quote by Mondobubba:





Maron v Seder bringing the funny! :rofl:


Hey - if you're going to paste YouTubes from FaceBook, be sure to strip off the extra YouTube stuff...

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/12/2008 00:53:00
Quote by BobR:

Quote by Mondobubba:





Maron v Seder bringing the funny! :rofl:


Hey - if you're going to paste YouTubes from FaceBook, be sure to strip off the extra YouTube stuff...




Hmmm I thought I had. It opened it both FaceSpace and then a separate Youtube tab. I copied the URL from You Tube. :shurg: Thanks for the tip, Bobber.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/12/2008 02:32:39
Damn you Tampa!

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/12/2008 02:42:25
Damn you Tampa Rays to the deepest circle of Dante's Hell! Burn burn in the deepest pits of Hell fire!

Comment by clintster on 10/12/2008 02:44:25
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/bobbettee/lolphilly.jpg


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/12/2008 02:48:24
Quote by clintster:

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/bobbettee/lolphilly.jpg




:rofl:

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/12/2008 03:33:46
Blue Star Families for Obama



Take that you GOP bitches!