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Count The Votes
Author: BobR    Date: 11/15/2018 14:20:58

Before every election, it seems that the Republicans start screaming "voter fraud". They warn of illegal immigrants voting, or people voting multiple times using different names or in in different precincts. The claims are all empty of course - there's never any evidence of widespread voter fraud, but they manage to dig up that one instance to insinuate that there is much more going on. The reality is that Democrats just want everyone to vote and for all votes to be counted.

Republicans know they will lose if that happens, which is why they commit the REAL "voter fraud". Their #1 tactic is to purge people from the voting rolls, and then push to disallow as many provisional ballots as possible. They also enact voter ID laws, claiming everyone needs a photo ID to do nearly anything. Yet per the Constitution, everyone has a right to vote - even the homeless (which would include the homeless veterans they claim to care so much about). It's voter suppression - not people voting when or where they shouldn't - that is the REAL voter fraud.

Once the ballots are cast, and the races are tight when the counting is almost done - that's when they really show their colors. In Arizona (where Democrat Krysten Sinema appears to have beaten Martha McSally by a very slim margin), the Republicans are going to court to get a judge to disallow the counting of mail-in ballots. Their rationale is that if the signature on the ballot doesn't exactly match the signature on the envelope, then they think this means fraud. Never mind that my signature never looks exactly the same every time. Never mind that the vast majority of military personnel vote by mail-in. They are assuming that these are all Dem votes that will widen Sinema's lead. They don't want to count every vote.

The race in GA is a classic case. The Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp - who is the guy claiming to have won the race - purged a bunch of voters from the rolls in predominately Democratic districts before election day, and was the one in charge of counting the votes until he recently resigned the post while claiming victory. They also made sure that there were less voting machines in minority/democratic districts so voters had to wait in long lines (and hopefully - to the Republicans - get discouraged and leave without voting). Talk about the fox guarding the hen house! He too wanted to disallow the counting of provisional ballots, and challenger Stacey Abrams took him to court and won. She may still lose the race, but at least the final vote county will reflect the will of the voters (who COULD vote). Here again, they don't want to count every vote.

In Utah, it's the same story. Republican Mia Love (R-UT) is losing to challenger Ben McAdams by a slim margin. She is suing to halt the vote count, also claiming a mismatch in signatures for mail-in ballots (which interestingly enough is how most people in Utah vote). Here again, they don't want to count every vote.

The mess in Florida has gained nationwide attention. The Governor and Senate races are extremely close. Because of the recent "Mad Bomber" event, a mail-sorting facility in Miami-Date County was on lockdown. In that facility were mail-in ballots that didn't get delivered in time for the counting date cutoff. Whether or not those get counted remains to be seen, because Florida is headed for an automatic recount. Rick Scott is suing a couple counties because he claims they didn't follow the law and counted votes they shouldn't have. On Veterans Day, tRumpy told Florida to ignore military ballots (who - as previously mentioned - normally vote via mail-in ballot). Here again, they don't want to count every vote.

In a final insult to our intelligence (and to give some raw meat to the racists), tRumpy decided to assuage his bruised ego at the huge beating the Republicans took at the ballot box last week by claiming well - here... read it yourself:
“The Republicans don’t win and that’s because of potentially illegal votes,” Trump said in an interview with The Daily Caller, a conservative news and opinion site. “When people get in line that have absolutely no right to vote and they go around in circles. Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again. Nobody takes anything. It’s really a disgrace what’s going on.”

Of course there is no evidence of this. He (and other Republicans) just can't fathom why they and their policies are unpopular with everyday Americans. Fear only works for so long, and when there's nothing to back it up, it gets replaced with anger at being played for a fool. Once a voter decides to abandon the Republican party, the Republicans no longer want them to vote.

It's the only way they can win - suppress the vote, and not count votes whenever they can. Perhaps they think we should go back to only allowing the landed gentry to vote. That would seem to suit them. It's not American though. True Americans let everyone vote and count every vote. Otherwise, we're back to taxation without representation.

 
 

28 comments (Latest Comment: 11/15/2018 20:45:20 by Raine)
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Comment by Raine on 11/15/2018 14:31:30
Amen.

good morning.

Comment by wickedpam on 11/15/2018 14:46:32
Morning

Fuck VDOT.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/15/2018 14:50:15
Mornin' all!

We're supposed to get like 2-5in here before it changes over to rain.. UGH I really don't wanna drag my ass thru that mess tomorrow.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/15/2018 14:53:08
Okay I can't stop laughing at this..



Comment by Raine on 11/15/2018 14:58:15
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning

Fuck VDOT.

Seriously! what a mess that was!

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2018 14:58:33
Quote by Scoopster:
Okay I can't stop laughing at this..


oh come on, man!

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2018 15:09:38
OMG, Real Press Sec Bot shows that DOTUS is fah.REEKING.out right now!

Comment by wickedpam on 11/15/2018 15:11:01
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning

Fuck VDOT.

Seriously! what a mess that was!



They claim to have treated the roads. Not any road I drove on doing only 25 all the way. Snow and packed slush. Seriously WTF!

Comment by wickedpam on 11/15/2018 15:14:59
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Scoopster:
Okay I can't stop laughing at this..


oh come on, man!



Good lawd, is Vincent Price running Madame Tussauds now?

Comment by wickedpam on 11/15/2018 16:12:50




For when I get my second vote in.

Comment by Scoopster on 11/15/2018 16:15:49
Great thread about the reality of what happened between AOC & Pelosi:



Comment by Raine on 11/15/2018 17:02:25
Quote by Scoopster:
Great thread about the reality of what happened between AOC & Pelosi:


She really needs someone to teach her optics.

I am not kiddning here.

Comment by BobR on 11/15/2018 17:08:10
Quote by wickedpam:




For when I get my second vote in.



Comment by Scoopster on 11/15/2018 17:10:45
Comment by Scoopster on 11/15/2018 17:30:57

Aaaaand Jared Golden wins! That's another flip for the Dems.

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2018 18:39:24
This is what I needed today.






Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/15/2018 18:55:24
Quote by Scoopster:

Aaaaand Jared Golden wins! That's another flip for the Dems.


Which means that the ONLY Republican congressperson in all of New England is Collins.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/15/2018 18:57:34
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning

Fuck VDOT.

Seriously! what a mess that was!



They claim to have treated the roads. Not any road I drove on doing only 25 all the way. Snow and packed slush. Seriously WTF!


Are they going to say tomorrow that they’ve gone over their snow budget?

Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/15/2018 19:06:11
Damn, didn’t know Roy Clark was still alive.
Until now that is.

RIP Guitar (or just about anything with strings) playing genius.

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2018 19:07:41
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Damn, didn’t know Roy Clark was still alive.
Until now that is.

RIP Guitar (or just about anything with strings) playing genius.

I thought he'd passed as well, I loved him growing up.

Comment by livingonli on 11/15/2018 19:08:23
Snow just started here but should be changing to rain by 8 PM.

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2018 19:08:30

I think I like that way of voring.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/15/2018 19:12:31
Quote by livingonli:
Snow just started here but should be changing to rain by 8 PM.


Figures. Tonight is our annual Pizza/Beer/Bowling night and the roads I’ll be going down I don’t llike when it’s dry, let alone when it’s snowing.

I’ll be crossing out the ‘beer’

Comment by livingonli on 11/15/2018 19:22:23
Quote by Raine:

I think I like that way of voring.

It actually would allow people to vote for third party candidates without fear of their votes being thrown away presuming most would have the Democratic candidate as their second choice.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 11/15/2018 20:39:53
Interesting.
Chuck Schumer’s daughter Allison is now marketing manager at Facebook’s New York office.

I guess Chuckie’s gonna be REALLY hard on Zuckerberg.

Fuck Chuck.

Comment by Raine on 11/15/2018 20:42:49
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Interesting.
Chuck Schumer’s daughter Allison is now marketing manager at Facebook’s New York office.

I guess Chuckie’s gonna be REALLY hard on Zuckerberg.

Fuck Chuck.


Chuck also told Mark Warner to cool it with FB. I think this is really gonna hurt him.

Not cool.


Comment by Raine on 11/15/2018 20:44:05
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by livingonli:
Snow just started here but should be changing to rain by 8 PM.


Figures. Tonight is our annual Pizza/Beer/Bowling night and the roads I’ll be going down I don’t llike when it’s dry, let alone when it’s snowing.

I’ll be crossing out the ‘beer’
Now I want pizza.

have fun tonite, Rabbit!


Comment by Raine on 11/15/2018 20:45:20
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by Raine:

I think I like that way of voring.

It actually would allow people to vote for third party candidates without fear of their votes being thrown away presuming most would have the Democratic candidate as their second choice.
I agree.

Maybe Third parties could try to lobby for more of this -- they would NOT look like total assholes every four years.

(Edited because I forgot the word not)