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Is this not WWIII?
Author: TriSec    Date: 07/02/2019 00:11:29

Oh, we all thought it would look like this.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jonathan_Vigh/publication/253077938/figure/fig11/AS:298066021240835@1448075885717/The-early-stage-mushroom-cloud-and-stem-several-seconds-after-detonation-Note-the-shock.png




September 11, 2001, a date which will live in infamy, the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by radical terrorists supported by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia...


Oh, if only it was that easy.

World War III has always been played out in a Cold-War world. The United States, inventor of the atomic bomb, once possesed the sole capability of destroying the entire planet. That changed on August 29, 1949 when our ideological rival detonated their own nuclear weapon.

There were uneasy steps and developments, which culminated in the near-destruction of everything on October 22, 1962. Fortunately for us all, calmer heads prevailed, and for the remainder of the Cold War, we maintained an uneasy peace with our Soviet adversaries under the madness known as "Mutually Assured Destruction". Neither side was willing to use theirs, knowing the other side would retaliate in-kind, and nobody could ever win.

But our current war is quite a different thing. We don't need to re-hash what we all lived through, but I will note for the record that this October 7 will mark 18 years since we invaded Afghanistan in the wake of those terrorist attacks perpetrated by Saudi Arabians.

It's been a never-ending battle for nearly two decades. One can shrug and state "We are at war with Eastasia; we have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia." It's strange to think; look at the Orwellian map of 1984. Somehow it seems neatly arranged to reflect our modern world.

But is it a World War? The term itself is somewhat nebulous. There are many historians that make a compelling case that the War of 1812 was actually World War One. Many other conflicts, some larger than others, have a strong historical case to be called a "World War".

The current conflict is no less ideologically based than the significant wars in our past. What does make this one different is the inclusion of religion. Read this passage, then tell me what religious text it might be from:


When you go to war against your enemies and see horses and chariots and an army greater than yours, do not be afraid of them, because Allah, who brought you up out of Egypt, will be with you. When you are about to go into battle, the priest shall come forward and address the army. He shall say: “Hear, Israel: Today you are going into battle against your enemies. Do not be fainthearted or afraid; do not panic or be terrified by them. For Allah is the one who goes with you to fight for you against your enemies to give you victory.”


Pretty obvious, right? How about this one?


"The punishment of those who wage war against the LORD your God and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"


Well, what if I told you I exchanged "Allah" and "the LORD your God" in these passages?

You see the problem here, right?

We are in the midst of a titanic struggle. While it isn't over political ideology, this is no less "US" vs. "THEM" in every sense of the word. I count myself among the few that I know that have actually read both the Bible and the Koran cover-to-cover. It's been said by many religious scholars of all stripes that two things remain true about both texts.

It's possible to find justification both for and against nearly every position within the pages of these texts. It's also possible to read both texts with hate and evil in your heart and find what you are looking for as easily as it is to read with mercy and love and find the exact opposite.

It is a World War, to my way of thinking, because we are being led by demagogues on both sides of that equation. The atmosphere has become so polluted by propaganda that this day and age is the living embodiment of Kipling's phrase, "Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet."

Our God (which is the same as their God, lest we forget), will always back us up and justify our wars because we want him to, and can find that justification in our primary religious text. So can their God, because they read it through the same poisoned lens.

Our allies and enemies around the world won't even deign to approach a bargaining table, because our own position is so weak, and so polluted by our internal strife that what was once a moderating, neutral nation must now take opposing positions to nearly everyone on everything.

What passes for diplomacy today is a psychopath, surrounded by sycophants, walking across a demarcation line to embrace a fellow demagogue.

This is no way to run a country - or indeed the world.


 

 
 
 

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Comment by BobR on 07/02/2019 12:14:23
Brilliant blog today Tri.... although I would change "attacks perpetrated by Saudi Arabia" to "attacks perpetrated by Saudi Arabians". I can't remember ever seeing any evidence that the rulers in Saudi Arabia committed, planned, or even condoned the attack.

Comment by Scoopster on 07/02/2019 12:39:04
Mornin' all!

I really need to stop using Twitter. That place has become nothing but a cesspool of nazi bots.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/02/2019 13:14:02
Morning

Comment by TriSec on 07/02/2019 13:19:11
Quote by BobR:
Brilliant blog today Tri.... although I would change "attacks perpetrated by Saudi Arabia" to "attacks perpetrated by Saudi Arabians"...


Ah, so noted.

Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/02/2019 13:40:27
Good morning, bloggers!!!

TriSec, the blog is brilliant. However, we are also arguably fighting a civil war in our own societies. I would argue that the U.S.A. at times feels like two disparate countries.

Meanwhile, there are those who wish to abolish democracy. Some want a theocracy, be it of fundamentalist Christian, Islamic, or Jewish nature. (I met Alden Solovy, an Israeli poet whose ribs were sore from being hit by the ultra-Orthodox in Jerusalem for defending the Women of the Wall., who want equality for women in Jewish worship.) Others want an economic order where democracy is abolished and the rich rule. A friend on Facebook shared an article from the Institute for New Economic Thinking about the late Nobel laureate and economist James Buchanan, who influenced Charles Koch. Buchanan argued that those who have property are true humans and the rest are inferior, almost animals. Thus, limiting voting rights and other tactics are legitimate as there are some who see democracy as a limit to their power.



Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/02/2019 13:50:06
Another aspect of war, particularly World Wars, is the movement of refugees. We have seen this with people from the Middle East and Central America.

The poet Alden Solovy has a prayer and poem "On Detaining Children." I must ask these questions with him.

The voice of heartbreak echoes across the land,
Children rejected at our sunset gates,
The Mother of Exiles weeps for the innocent,
Their journey to Liberty bringing detention, deprivation and death.
Has compassion fled our borders?
Has the lamp at our door been extinguished?
Has Justice abandoned her post?


Comment by Raine on 07/02/2019 15:34:00


Good Morning.

Comment by Raine on 07/02/2019 15:36:11
House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Richard E. Neal is filing a lawsuit in federal court Tuesday seeking to compel the Internal Revenue Service to turn over President Trump’s tax returns, according to a person familiar with the matter. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin denied multiple requests for the financial records, which the president refused to release in the 2016 presidential campaign in a break with decades of precedent.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.



Breaking at WaPo -- entre article

Comment by Raine on 07/02/2019 15:37:37
Quote by Raine:
House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Richard E. Neal is filing a lawsuit in federal court Tuesday seeking to compel the Internal Revenue Service to turn over President Trump’s tax returns, according to a person familiar with the matter. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin denied multiple requests for the financial records, which the president refused to release in the 2016 presidential campaign in a break with decades of precedent.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.



Breaking at WaPo -- entre article
updated story


Comment by Raine on 07/02/2019 15:58:04
Something is going on:





Comment by Mondobubba on 07/02/2019 16:00:03
Morning all. Relistening to the Last Podcast on the Left episodes about Norwegian Death metal: AKA the most insufferable assholes who ever walked the earth, JV division. Murder, church burnings, and neo-Nazis oh my!

Comment by Raine on 07/02/2019 16:19:54
Quote by Raine:
Something is going on:








Comment by Raine on 07/02/2019 16:29:22




Comment by Scoopster on 07/02/2019 16:43:42
Jeez I step away from my desk for our regular monthly meeting, and I come back to yet another world crisis.

Comment by Raine on 07/02/2019 17:08:49




Comment by livingonli on 07/02/2019 17:15:49
The Cuch is coming up on Veshi & Rule.

Comment by Raine on 07/02/2019 17:21:52
Quote by livingonli:
The Cuch is coming up on Veshi & Rule.

I'm listening.

and Velshi is doing a decent job, considering.

Comment by Raine on 07/02/2019 17:30:12
Quote by Raine:
Quote by livingonli:
The Cuch is coming up on Veshi & Rule.

I'm listening.

and Velshi is doing a decent job, considering.

boy oh boy == Cooch tap dancing.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/02/2019 17:38:35
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Richard E. Neal is filing a lawsuit in federal court Tuesday seeking to compel the Internal Revenue Service to turn over President Trump’s tax returns, according to a person familiar with the matter. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin denied multiple requests for the financial records, which the president refused to release in the 2016 presidential campaign in a break with decades of precedent.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.



Breaking at WaPo -- entre article
updated story


You’ll excuse me if I stifle a yawn.

Anyway, yearly eye test done..eyes all dilated and farked up, but retinas good and the cataracts have not grown.

In the pissed-off cat world, Cleo is ‘enjoying’ her experience with the Cone of Shame. Her tail operation went well.....just got a call from the Mrs that Cleo escaped her Cone of Shame....and she’ll get meds for a couple of days then the stitches come out in a week or two.

Comment by livingonli on 07/02/2019 18:01:58
I saw in that video that Cleo was already trying to take the cone off.

Comment by Scoopster on 07/02/2019 18:55:20
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/02/2019 19:00:36
Vuvuzela, check! Team USA scarf, check! LET'S DO THIS! USA!

Comment by Scoopster on 07/02/2019 19:29:48



Comment by Raine on 07/02/2019 19:33:22
Quote by Mondobubba:
Vuvuzela, check! Team USA scarf, check! LET'S DO THIS! USA!

GOUSA!

Comment by Raine on 07/02/2019 19:41:21
This is too cute!