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Who frames the debate now?
Author: Raine    Date: 03/05/2009 13:36:15

You know what? It is hard to write a blog these days. I am afraid I am going to have to start railing against the new administration just to be able to write something! Pff -- I am just kidding, that is what the Mainstream Media is for. You know, that mean liberal media. The one who just said mean things about the previous pResident just because they could. We all know that was actually not true until about the last year of his term, and even then it was filled with half-assed reporting.

Suddenly, for that very same M$M, it is fun to be the voice of the opposition for the current administration. Suddenly they are doing the job they were meant to. Oh scrap that - they are not. They are just a mouth piece for the opposition now. Why? When the previous administration was in office, it was easier to sell advertisements when the talking heads told us how great the war was, how great the economy was how great everything was. The Media and the reporting was driven by those who bought advertising -- free market and all.

We have known this all along - I am speaking to the choir here. What strikes me about this ongoing phenomena is how many people outside of our so-called 'progressive way of thinking' (also know as "Commie Homo-Loving sons of Guns") feel the same way too. The exception is, as it always has been, those that live and die by the Church of Rush Limbaugh.

We had the chance to go back to NY last month. It was a wonderful trip. It really was, but as many of you know, I have some members of my family that have always felt I was just a little too left for them. Like many others here on this blog and in my political circle of friends, it has caused some angst in the past. Not this time. This time, if the topic of the economy was broached, people actually wanted to hear what we had to say, and if they didn't have all the answers, we were not dismissed as America haters. It was sadly, quite refreshing.

I say sadly, because so many people don't really know what is going on. Many people still watch FAUX News and I realized they are not getting the information they need to understand what is happening. They do not like to see the our president bashed left and right, and they know who exactly got us to this point. People know, they just won't come out and say it. Maybe they think Rush will come knocking on the door and yell at them personally. They know the media is not telling them the truth and they cannot admit that because that would mean they have been lied to for years. That is a terrible pill to swallow.

Now is indeed the time to come together. We will never get the far right ditto-heads, I concede that, but now is a time to talk to those who are moderate or on the fence. We have an advantage: it's called the truth. We no longer have to beat the facts into other peoples heads, all we have to do is explain, talk and engage. The years of fact finding, researching and reading are the tools we as regular Americans have and it is those things that we must use to help bring this nation back together.

The MSM isn't going to do that. We have known this all along. Now regular Americans are understanding that they have been lied to as well, and because they are hurting just like everyone else, they want truth. To expect TV to do that is unrealistic, there is no money in a United Nation.

We have an administration that has called upon this country to unite, it's time to strike while the iron is hot. Get out and talk to people, let them know we are all together in this. Believe me, it makes a difference; I came to realize this when talking to my family and friends.

Don't let the ditto-heads frame the debate. This moment in history is what we have been waiting for. Despite all the crises that our nation is going thru, we can still make a huge difference in the way the conversation continues.

:peace: and
Raine



 

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Comment by Will in Chicago on 03/05/2009 13:48:33
FIRST!!!



Excellent post, Raine!!! I think that we are at a moment where people are willing to listen and come together. So, we need to step up.



I mentioned this last night, but 1190 KNUV is now off the air. Mike Malloy, the big name of the recently formed On Second Thought LLC which succeeded Nova M Radio, is going to self syndicate according to Green 960.

Comment by TriSec on 03/05/2009 13:53:46
Morning, folks.



Ah, what a life I lead these days.

Blog, Forum, Facebook, Email, Twitter, Look at clock. Repeat.



:kickcan:





Comment by BobR on 03/05/2009 13:55:51
Quote by TriSec:

Morning, folks.



Ah, what a life I lead these days.

Blog, Forum, Facebook, Email, Twitter, Look at clock. Repeat.



:kickcan:





For me it's the same, except substitute "job sites" for "Twitter".



You kids and your tweets...

Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2009 14:07:26
Morning :hug:

Comment by TriSec on 03/05/2009 14:07:31
Well, that too, but I tend to look at the job sites on Monday and Tuesday while the Sunday postings are still fresh...





Comment by Raine on 03/05/2009 14:26:46
4 Fun jobs to keep you busy while you are unemployed.



I must say I find the idea of a *fun Job* during these times a little pretentious... I am actually looking into the first job on that list!

Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2009 14:28:54
Mornin'.. Ugh I'm tired and I don't feel so good.

Comment by TriSec on 03/05/2009 14:41:37
Quote by Raine:

4 Fun jobs to keep you busy while you are unemployed.



I must say I find the idea of a *fun Job* during these times a little pretentious... I am actually looking into the first job on that list!




Surprisingly enough, I've been busy these last two weeks. I actually only had one day where I was sitting home staring at the walls; I've been out and about every other day.



I was thinking I'd clean the house, re-arrange furniture, dust off my old chess computer, practice music more, get out and hike a few times.....but I haven't had a chance to do any of that yet.







Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2009 14:41:47
Heh I just got a reply from this guy in Italy via Facebook.. wanted to know why I requested to join a family group from over there.



Of course, the Scottish last name doesn't make it clear, so I had to explain my mother's bloodlines & what I know of the family once they came over on the boat.

Comment by TriSec on 03/05/2009 14:48:16
Heading to AFLAC!, then the store. See everyone tonight. (check twitter for a snapshot this afternoon.)



Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2009 15:09:12
I actually know of another way these contracters spends way too much money.

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2009 15:16:47
Quote by wickedpam:

I actually know of another way these contracters spends way too much money.


Do tell...

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2009 15:17:14
You know I think I know what Rush Meant when he said that... and it isn't very nice.

Comment by velveeta jones on 03/05/2009 15:23:32
Bravo post Raine!!



I am soooo sick of Rush. I swear, I want to start a movement called "Rush, Shut the Fuck Up" or something similar! He needs to shut up and run for office, any office. Put his big fat wad of money where his big fat drooling mouth is!!!



:boom:

Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2009 15:25:24
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

I actually know of another way these contracters spends way too much money.


Do tell...






I don't know what the term for it is so I'll just say it the way it was told to me...



Say a contracter is looking to hire a Head Chef at $100,000 (numbers are totaly random) because that's what they said they would hire in a contract they won. Once they hire that person the government can comeback and say we don't need a Head Chef we need a prep cook.



Now in that contract they might have said they would pay prep cooks 25,000 but they've already hired this person and told them they would make 100,000. So instead of hiring someone new to fit the position and the pay they will demote the Head Chef to prep cook but still pay him 100,000.



does my explanation make sense?



Comment by Raine on 03/05/2009 15:26:37
Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

I actually know of another way these contracters spends way too much money.


Do tell...






I don't know what the term for it is so I'll just say it the way it was told to me...



Say a contracter is looking to hire a Head Chef at $100,000 (numbers are totaly random) because that's what they said they would hire in a contract they won. Once they hire that person the government can comeback and say we don't need a Head Chef we need a prep cook.



Now in that contract they might have said they would pay prep cooks 25,000 but they've already hired this person and told them they would make 100,000. So instead of hiring someone new to fit the position and the pay they will demote the Head Chef to prep cook but still pay him 100,000.



does my explanation make sense?

Actaully yeah it does.



Why am I not surprised?



Comment by Raine on 03/05/2009 15:28:11
Oh caller...

Comment by velveeta jones on 03/05/2009 15:28:19
OMG. These callers are killing me!



Poor Scott........ seriously. What a sad person.

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2009 15:28:50
Scott again?



:thud:







Comment by velveeta jones on 03/05/2009 15:28:50
Can we start a collection to send Scott away??

Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2009 15:30:36
Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

Quote by Raine:

Quote by wickedpam:

I actually know of another way these contracters spends way too much money.


Do tell...






I don't know what the term for it is so I'll just say it the way it was told to me...



Say a contracter is looking to hire a Head Chef at $100,000 (numbers are totaly random) because that's what they said they would hire in a contract they won. Once they hire that person the government can comeback and say we don't need a Head Chef we need a prep cook.



Now in that contract they might have said they would pay prep cooks 25,000 but they've already hired this person and told them they would make 100,000. So instead of hiring someone new to fit the position and the pay they will demote the Head Chef to prep cook but still pay him 100,000.



does my explanation make sense?

Actaully yeah it does.



Why am I not surprised?







glad I was able to explain that right - atleast I know of one company that does that so it wouldn't surprise me if others did too.



Its a complete waste of tax dollars



Comment by BobR on 03/05/2009 15:31:06
I imagine that jerk that just called in saying American women weren't good enough probably looks like Comic Book Guy. My ex father-in-law was about 300 lbs of fat, and he said he liked "slender" women, not "fatties".



In both looks and personality, he had no license to be picky.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2009 15:31:16
Quote by velveeta jones:

Can we start a collection to send Scott away??






I have better things to do with my money Scott can buy is own ticket



Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2009 15:35:07
Quote by Raine:

Scott again?



:thud:





Comment by Mondobubba on 03/05/2009 15:35:50
Quote by velveeta jones:

Bravo post Raine!!



I am soooo sick of Rush. I swear, I want to start a movement called "Rush, Shut the Fuck Up" or something similar! He needs to shut up and run for office, any office. Put his big fat wad of money where his big fat drooling mouth is!!!



:boom:




Rush run for office? Really expose himself to those sweaty smelly people that are the ditoheads? Are you insane! Actually touch those people who shop at Wal-Mart? Never.





Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2009 15:37:08
I'm finding its the biggest whiner that don't do shit.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2009 15:42:33
for the prop 8 thing

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2009 15:45:29
Becuase THIS is what the Georgia legislature is concerned about.

A bill intended to make sure Georgia never has a mother like the Californian who recently gave birth to eight children is scheduled to come before a Senate committee Thursday.



Senate Bill 169 would limit the number of embryos fertility clinics may implant in a woman. It is among the first legislation of its kind in the nation.




But here is the stunner:



“I think it’s totally immoral,” Hudgens said. “I think the doctor ought to be prosecuted, and the woman should give them [the children] up for adoption.”


Comment by Raine on 03/05/2009 15:47:34
Quote by wickedpam:

for the prop 8 thing






Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2009 15:47:52
Man I love xkcd...



http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/base_system.png


Comment by Mondobubba on 03/05/2009 15:50:22
Quote by Raine:

Becuase THIS is what the Georgia legislature is concerned about.

A bill intended to make sure Georgia never has a mother like the Californian who recently gave birth to eight children is scheduled to come before a Senate committee Thursday.



Senate Bill 169 would limit the number of embryos fertility clinics may implant in a woman. It is among the first legislation of its kind in the nation.




But here is the stunner:



“I think it’s totally immoral,” Hudgens said. “I think the doctor ought to be prosecuted, and the woman should give them [the children] up for adoption.”




These are the same people who argue that Stim is going to put the Federal gummit in charge of your health care decisions. Right sure, okay!



Raine and Bob, I think we need to have a legislative crazy off. Florida vs Georgia. Whattya say?

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2009 15:56:13
Quote by Mondobubba:

These are the same people who argue that Stim is going to put the Federal gummit in charge of your health care decisions. Right sure, okay!



Raine and Bob, I think we need to have a legislative crazy off. Florida vs Georgia. Whattya say?
Ding!



These are teh ones who think that government should stay the hell out of thier lives...



F*cking hypocrites.



Comment by Random on 03/05/2009 16:06:02
Quote by Raine:

Scott again?



:thud:







No leave Scott. I loves Scott. Scott is fun. NO GO SCOTT!

Comment by velveeta jones on 03/05/2009 16:06:25
Quote by Mondobubba:

Quote by Raine:

Becuase THIS is what the Georgia legislature is concerned about.

A bill intended to make sure Georgia never has a mother like the Californian who recently gave birth to eight children is scheduled to come before a Senate committee Thursday.



Senate Bill 169 would limit the number of embryos fertility clinics may implant in a woman. It is among the first legislation of its kind in the nation.




But here is the stunner:



“I think it’s totally immoral,” Hudgens said. “I think the doctor ought to be prosecuted, and the woman should give them [the children] up for adoption.”




These are the same people who argue that Stim is going to put the Federal gummit in charge of your health care decisions. Right sure, okay!



Raine and Bob, I think we need to have a legislative crazy off. Florida vs Georgia. Whattya say?




Um, ain't we supposed to be "pro-creatin'" endlessly? :scratchhead:



I think they's trying to confuse me.

Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2009 16:08:17
Quote by Random:

Quote by Raine:

Scott again?



:thud:



No leave Scott. I loves Scott. Scott is fun. NO GO SCOTT!


We need an audiocon of Frau from Austin Powers shouting SCOTT!

Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2009 16:11:46
"there was also a unicorn" :lol:

Comment by livingonli on 03/05/2009 16:19:11
Good morning everyone.



I really need some luck so that maybe I have can get something with more normal hours so I can get up to blog again.

Comment by wickedpam on 03/05/2009 16:20:34
"so mmmmaaaahhhhh" :rofl:

Comment by livingonli on 03/05/2009 16:23:19
Quote by velveeta jones:

Can we start a collection to send Scott away??


I should be glad I missed him. Can't he be happy just cleaning his shrine to David Duke and Adolf Hitler?

Comment by livingonli on 03/05/2009 16:27:16
At this point, I really wish Rush would go the way of his fellow demagogues Father Coughlin and Joseph McCarthy.

Comment by Random on 03/05/2009 17:11:21
You peoples are smarter than I.

What is the War Powers Act?

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2009 17:21:01
Comment by livingonli on 03/05/2009 17:21:31
The War Powers Act was a Congressional Act passed after Vietnam which was intended to limit the ability of the President to engage in overseas military actions without Congressional Approval. If invoked, the President has 90 days to seek Congressional Approval for military action at least that's how it's supposed to work but Iraq has shown that it hasn't worked that way in practice.

Comment by Raine on 03/05/2009 17:23:38
Quote by Random:

You peoples are smarter than I.

What is the War Powers Act?
It was passed in '73 and required that the president notify Congress within 48 hours of sending troops into battle. It also says that unless congress acts, the action can only be 60 days, otherwise a declaration of war MUST be made.

Comment by Random on 03/05/2009 17:34:21
Hm...that would Explain why Quayle was asking for it to be repealed.

Comment by TriSec on 03/05/2009 17:49:40
Hello folks!



Heading out to the store in a few.



The AFLAC job has been offered! But not in the traditional sense; I met with the regional sales manager today, and walked through *everything* that making the switch would entail. I've got a much clearer picture of what I need to do.



In any case, he left the ball in my court. If I go through the company material, decide that a) I can do it and b ) I want to do it....the position is there for the asking.



It'll take a few weeks before I actually start making money, I have to be licensed, and go through "Aflac University", but I can still collect in the meantime.



Got a lot of homework and pondering to do...



Comment by Scoopster on 03/05/2009 18:00:11
Quote by TriSec:

Hello folks!



Heading out to the store in a few.



The AFLAC job has been offered! But not in the traditional sense; I met with the regional sales manager today, and walked through *everything* that making the switch would entail. I've got a much clearer picture of what I need to do.



In any case, he left the ball in my court. If I go through the company material, decide that a) I can do it and b ) I want to do it....the position is there for the asking.



It'll take a few weeks before I actually start making money, I have to be licensed, and go through "Aflac University", but I can still collect in the meantime.



Got a lot of homework and pondering to do...


Still sounds like good news to me! At least there was an opportunity that came your way fairly quickly, given this shitstorm economy..

Comment by BobR on 03/05/2009 18:01:57
Quote by TriSec:

Hello folks!



Heading out to the store in a few.



The AFLAC job has been offered! But not in the traditional sense; I met with the regional sales manager today, and walked through *everything* that making the switch would entail. I've got a much clearer picture of what I need to do.



In any case, he left the ball in my court. If I go through the company material, decide that a) I can do it and b ) I want to do it....the position is there for the asking.



It'll take a few weeks before I actually start making money, I have to be licensed, and go through "Aflac University", but I can still collect in the meantime.



Got a lot of homework and pondering to do...



wow - that's great!



Is it strictly commission, salary, or a combination of both? Do you feel comfortable asking people to buy stuff (ie: "closing the deal")? That's where I fell short in my attempts at sales...



Comment by TriSec on 03/05/2009 18:05:46
Well, it's insurance; not widgets....something most people need.



I have some small sales experience in retail; I'm usually able to get the customer to take an armload of stuff up to the register.



But doing it for a living? If I don't sell, we don't eat? That's giving me pause.



Not enough to say "no"....but pause nonetheless. I have several votes of confidence from some people I trust, so that's swaying my thought process.